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Speaker 1: The Reds gave me everything in the world. Man.

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Speaker 2: They treated me with such respect and you know, I

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Speaker 1: There and uh, but I think it was time.

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Speaker 3: All right, let's go, let's talk Royals right now with

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Speaker 3: Johnathan India back on the show with us.

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Speaker 4: Jonathan, great to have you on.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for the time. And we haven't talked to you

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Speaker 3: since you've ended up in the Powder Blue, so I'm

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Speaker 3: sure you like your colors and the atmosphere. How's it

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Speaker 3: going there, man.

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Speaker 1: It's been awesome.

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Speaker 2: Man. Uh, you know, I love this team already. This

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Speaker 2: team is a special group of guys. You know, they

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Speaker 2: all get along really well. Good culture. It's very structure here,

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Speaker 2: which I love. They just they go about their business

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Speaker 2: the right way.

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Speaker 5: So is it what's what's the most what's the most

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Speaker 5: glaring thing that you're like? Man, I love this. I

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Speaker 5: love how they're doing this in casey. I know, it's

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Speaker 5: just spring training, so everybody looks, you know, peaches and rainbows.

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Speaker 2: I just like I said, I think it's the structure.

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Speaker 2: You know, it's very like well put together and you know,

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Speaker 2: everyone just has one goal in their mind. And everyone's

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Speaker 2: bought in here, and you tell. I can tell right

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Speaker 2: away when I stepped in this camp. You know, everyone

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Speaker 4: Talk to me a little bit about camp and explain.

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Speaker 4: Give me. Give me a guy or two where you're

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Speaker 4: I didn't expect for this guy to be like absolute

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Speaker 4: this guy is you know, and I know the big names,

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Speaker 4: this dude, this dude's for real pitching, hitting Talk to me.

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Speaker 1: Well, obviously, Bobby.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know, you don't really uh, you don't

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Speaker 1: It's like, you know, he's doing where we.

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Speaker 2: Hit these proline balls at a machine on the field

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Speaker 1: He's very well structured in his routine. He just gets it. Man.

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Speaker 1: For a young kid, he gets it and that's pretty

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Speaker 2: But I mean everyone on this team that this lineup is,

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Speaker 1: They can hit the war pictures down.

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Speaker 2: It's it's very cool lineup and I'm an excited to

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Speaker 5: So you talk about impressive, you talk about Bobby Witt Jr.

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Speaker 5: You just went, you just left Ellie Daily Cruz. Ellie's like,

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Speaker 5: you don't really know what he is until you get there.

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Speaker 5: Compare those two because like that's why they come up

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Speaker 2: I've had this question so much this spring, just because

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Speaker 2: You know, he's already locked into the type of player

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Speaker 1: I think Ellie is just a freak, you know.

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Speaker 2: It's just like this kid could do whatever you ask

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Speaker 5: I know you haven't played with Bobby for an entire season.

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Speaker 1: And then well.

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Speaker 4: It's hard. It's hard, and you know what I was hard, Yeah,

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Speaker 4: getting traded it's hard too as well. I've cratzy and

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Speaker 4: I've been through a bunch of those.

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Speaker 4: There's you know, you get the speculations where you want

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Speaker 4: all that, you.

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Speaker 1: Know what, man, I mean, the Reds give me everything

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Speaker 2: Man, they treated me with such respect, and you know,

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Speaker 2: I can't thank them enough for what they've given me

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Speaker 1: And but I think it was time. You know, it

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Speaker 2: Talked about for a couple of years and it was

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Speaker 1: My career somewhere else. So I think it was kind

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Speaker 2: You know, we kind of just part of ways and

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Speaker 1: And you know, I'm excited to start this new chatter

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Speaker 5: How could they have handled it differently or even how

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Speaker 5: could you have handled those like move me not move me? Now?

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Speaker 5: I'm here, I'm still here.

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Speaker 1: What you know? What's going on with this? That's a

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean I think it was just part of the

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Speaker 5: The Royals have really made a big deal, and I

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Speaker 2: I mean they they definitely, you know, like the fact

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Speaker 2: I learned from Joey Vado. You know, he taught me

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Speaker 2: the Reds definitely valued it. It's just there was so

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Speaker 5: But I need to solidify something. You're gonna play second

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Speaker 2: Now there's I'm gonna be moving around a little bit,

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Speaker 1: It's all right. I mean, any go glove caliber out there, but.

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Speaker 2: Uh, you can make it, make it, make it through

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Speaker 5: Listen, jose L Twovey is going out to left field

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Speaker 5: You know, absolutely, you're You're a gamer. He's a gamer.

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Speaker 5: You're you were a second basement, you know, play a

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Speaker 4: So don't be afraid.

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Speaker 5: To be honest with you, I mean maybe you could ask.

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Speaker 5: I mean, Bobby's Bobby's an MVP candidate. They get they

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Speaker 5: Yeah, let me get two timeouts. And if Bobby doesn't

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Speaker 1: You're only making it worse right now talking about it.

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Speaker 5: So sorry, Yeah, okay, sorry, I stop. I'll stop making

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Speaker 3: Today, I got more than that, Yeah, exactly, I got

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Speaker 3: so you mentioned and chatted him out? Can played approach

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: So obviously you learned a thing or two from Botto.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean you could definitely learn

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Speaker 4: I want to ask you, you and Kratzy have the

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Speaker 4: about that. I think that's pretty cool. They look pretty awesome.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 4: Are you into the uniform kind of detail guy?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean we already did. Like

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Speaker 2: These are the hell tough man. They are, they fit grade,

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Speaker 5: All right, last one real quick from me. I was

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Speaker 5: sick of hearing about those guys. I was there for

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Speaker 5: because Salvador Perez never didn't play. Yeah, should I still come?

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Speaker 5: Should I still come to the World Series celebration if

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Speaker 5: Is that pro or not pro?

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Speaker 2: I think I think you're definitely well deserving it if

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Speaker 5: Rightly, I wasn't even there at the end, like first

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Speaker 2: I mean, guys are getting rings for a week in

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Speaker 5: I got less than a week. I got four plate

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Speaker 5: appearances four. Salvey just played every single day. Patrick Grafall

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Speaker 1: He's still like that. So yeah he's still like that. Yeah, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: There you go, well, Jonathan, awesome to have you on man,

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Speaker 3: your great interview. Always really appreciate the time. Uh, don't

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Speaker 3: be a stranger. Have an awesome start to the season

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Speaker 3: and we'll catch at some point during the year.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, guys, I appreciate having me going.

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Speaker 4: Thank you