1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to this country Life. I'm your host, Brent Reeves 2 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: from coon hunting to trot lining and just general country living. 3 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: I want you to stay a while as I share 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: my experiences and life lessons. This country Life is presented 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: by Case Knives on Meat Eaters Podcast Network, bringing you 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: the best outdoor podcast the airwaves have to offer. All right, friends, 7 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 1: grab a chair or drop that tailgate. I've got some 8 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 1: stories to share. Superstitions crossing your fingers, looking for four 9 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,360 Speaker 1: leaf clovers and avoiding the number thirteen, or some common 10 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: superstitions that nearly everyone knows about. I'm going to tell 11 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 1: you about some of the ones I grew up around 12 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: and maybe still practice to some degree. I'm going to 13 00:00:56,320 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: tell you all about it, but first I'm going to 14 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: tell you a story. Somewhere around nineteen eighty eight, we 15 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: were just driving down the road on the way to 16 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,399 Speaker 1: the woods one day. Mister Leon was keeping the fire 17 00:01:15,480 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 1: stoked on a sale of Menthos cigarette and looking at 18 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 1: a copy of an ownership map that we were using 19 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: to locate some Georgia Pacific property lines we were going 20 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: to move some loggers onto in a few weeks. I 21 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: was a young man working for GP managing Timber. This 22 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: was before I was old enough to be a police 23 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: officer in Arkansas, and mister Leon Garlington was the crew boss. 24 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: He was a veteran of World War Two, having seen 25 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: some brutal fighting in the South Pacific. I respected him 26 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 1: and he tolerated me. He hated everybody, and most everything 27 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 1: made him mad. It all stemmed from the war, I'm sure. 28 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: But someone said he was contrary before he ever left 29 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: Arkansas for the other side of the earth. Regardless, I 30 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: looked up to him and I put a lot of 31 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: stock into what he said. And I've told the story 32 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:09,160 Speaker 1: before about how mister Leon and I would drive out 33 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 1: to work one way and come back to town in a 34 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: different one. For those that haven't heard, I'll hit the 35 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: high points for you. No idea how long we'd been 36 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: working together managing Timber for GP, me driving and him 37 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: doing all the navigating, when after a million trips to 38 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: and from the woods, he adamantly refused to allow me, 39 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,959 Speaker 1: the guy that was driving, to take the quickest way 40 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: home one afternoon because that was the way we had 41 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: driven out that morning. Mister Leon, I'm hot, I'm tired. 42 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: We can cut this trip back to the office in half. 43 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: If we would just go down the highway like we 44 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,960 Speaker 1: came out this morning, No, we ain't going back that way? 45 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: Why not? That's when he took a drag off that 46 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: cigarette and slow blew it out the open window that 47 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 1: air conditionless truck and said, son, have you ever been ambushed? No, sir, 48 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: well I have. We ain't going back the same way 49 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 1: we came out. We never did ever in all the 50 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: years I worked with him. But this was another day, 51 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 1: and mister Leon was feeling pretty good that morning. He 52 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: hadn't wished anybody to be shot with a wooden bullet 53 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: so far that day. That was one of his favorite 54 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 1: dispersions to cast upon someone he didn't approve of. He 55 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 1: order to be shot with a wooden bullet was exactly 56 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: how he'd phrase it, and it was normally addressed toward 57 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: our co workers, whose work ethics he called into question 58 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 1: on a regular basis. Even though he hadn't spoken to 59 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: me yet, I was digging the vibe I was getting 60 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: from him, and I took a chance on getting a 61 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: wooden bullet wished in my direction. But anyway, I said, 62 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: mister Leon, I got a dang hoodol sitting on a 63 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: limb my window every night. I guess it's a hoodole. 64 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: It's making some kind of spooky racket. But every time 65 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: I go out to see it with a light, it 66 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: ain't there. It sounds like woo ooh. Now, to my surprise, 67 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: he didn't ignore me. He had done that in the 68 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: past a lot. How many nights has it been out there? 69 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: I said, I don't know, maybe two or three, and 70 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: it wakes me up in the middle of the night. 71 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:36,359 Speaker 1: What does it sound like again? I did it again. 72 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: That ain't no whodol Son. That's a haint. Do what now? 73 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 1: That's a haint. You got something spooking you. How many 74 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: times have you gone up to an isle at night 75 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: and did not fly? That's a haint. And there ain't 76 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: but one way to cure it. You got to turn 77 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: your shoes upside down under the edge of the bed 78 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: when you lay down at night. And I kept waiting 79 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: for him to start laughing, But all he did was 80 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: keep the fire burning on the end of that cigarette 81 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: and never took his eyes off the map. He didn't 82 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,800 Speaker 1: do a lot of joking. And I readily admit, coon 83 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 1: hunter or not, I ain't a big fan of the 84 00:05:20,320 --> 00:05:24,440 Speaker 1: dark not that I think there's spooks knocking about in it, 85 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: but something was, and someone I had looked up to 86 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: and put a lot of stock in what he said 87 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: had just given me a cure for what was really 88 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:37,600 Speaker 1: starting to worry me. We didn't talk about it none 89 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: of the rest of the day, and I went to 90 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: bed that night to silence. No racket at all. My 91 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: work boots sitting by the door were I took them 92 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 1: off every day when I came home. Sometime in the 93 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: middle of the night, I woke up to that noise again. 94 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: I didn't get out of bed. I knew I wasn't 95 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: going to see anything if I went out there. Never had. 96 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,839 Speaker 1: I just laid there waiting on that haink to get 97 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: me wishing. I still thought it was just a hootile 98 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: and then I'd put my shoes under the bed, just 99 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:14,599 Speaker 1: like mister Lehan had told me to do. Now about 100 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: the middle of the morning. It worked. The next day, 101 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: he asked me, put them shoes under your bed last night? No, sir, 102 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 1: did the spook come back? Yes, sir. He just shook 103 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: his head disappointedly and fired up another men. Though he 104 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: didn't mention anything about it. The rest of the day. 105 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: Well that night, after suppering, before cutting out the light, 106 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: the last thing I did was turned my boots and 107 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: every pair of shoes I owned upside down under the 108 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: edge of the bed. I never heard that noise again, 109 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 1: not once. I have no idea to this very day 110 00:06:54,560 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: what it was, and I have never heard that sound 111 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: again in any recordings of any speed seeds an owl 112 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:05,359 Speaker 1: that inhabits North America. I've looked trying to replicate what 113 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: I heard and identify what it actually was. I don't know. 114 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,720 Speaker 1: But the next day at work, I walked into the 115 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: coffee room. Mister Lenarm was sitting in his usual chair, 116 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: reading the newspaper, stained white cup of coffee steaming beside 117 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: the ash tray that was keeping that Mentha all ready 118 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: for him. He looked up at me when I walked in, 119 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,920 Speaker 1: and I hopped up on the edge of the counter 120 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: where I normally sat, waiting on him, just to give 121 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: the sign it was time for us to head to 122 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: the truck and go to work. Until that time, he 123 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: ignored everything and everyone. He just sat there and read 124 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: the paper, oblivious to the rest of the world. He 125 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: picked up a cigarette and glanced up from the paper, 126 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: looking at me over his top of his glasses, and 127 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: he said, I just sleep last night. Now, it was 128 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: such an unusual happening that everyone else stopped talking and 129 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: turned to see if he'd actually he initiated a conversation 130 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: with someone. I smiled big at him, happy that he 131 00:08:05,600 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 1: was even talking to me. He never talked to anybody 132 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: up there, and only talked to me once we left. 133 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: But I looked at him, I said, I slept like 134 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: a baby, mister Leon. He winked at me, and he 135 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 1: went back to his paper. And that's just how that happened. Superstitions, 136 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: the world is full of them. Some of them are 137 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 1: very well known. As a Pennsylvania paper mogul Michael Scott 138 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: once said, I'm not superstitious. I am a little stitious. 139 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: The same goes for yours, truly. Then my wife and 140 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:50,920 Speaker 1: kids might have a different opinion about that, as they 141 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: take great joy in poking fun of me about my 142 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: beliefs and habits. And I can't point to any reason 143 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: or reference for it other than I was raised that way, 144 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: or better yet, exposed to it as a child. No 145 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 1: one ever sat me down and said, Brent, do this 146 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: or don't do that, or you will die well, except 147 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: from my maternal grandmother, beautlessly, the same one that drug 148 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,680 Speaker 1: me to the beauty parlor when misfortune befell me and 149 00:09:19,720 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: I got caught in her possession while in town. Mom 150 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: sly told me, as I mentioned on her before, that 151 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: if I drank milk and ate fish, I would die, 152 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: simple and quick, to the point it made a lasting 153 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: impression on me. I remember it like it was this morning. 154 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: We sat down to eat a big mess of fish 155 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: she just fried up, and she has Brent, what do 156 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: you want to drink? I want some sweet milk. I 157 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: don't remember how old I was, but I was still 158 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:51,319 Speaker 1: in elementary school when she responded, and I quote, you 159 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: can't have milk and fish. It'll kill you, ma'am, It'll 160 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: kill you. I can't do that. She's some tea that 161 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 1: wasn't going to end well. And before I go any further, 162 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: let me say that my grandmother could sit on her behind, blindfolded, 163 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: with her right arm tied behind her back, and out 164 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:16,439 Speaker 1: cooked Julia Chiles and Justin Wilson and out Clean, Mister Clean, 165 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 1: and the tidy bowl Man all at the same time. 166 00:10:20,559 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: But everyone has a weakness to Superman. It was kryptonite 167 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: to Achilles. It was his heel to my mama's life. 168 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 1: It was her sweet tea. I call it sweet tea 169 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 1: only because that's what he's supposed to be. She didn't 170 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: put sugar in it, she didn't like it. It wouldn't 171 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: drink it, so I'm not sure she even knew what 172 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,160 Speaker 1: it was supposed to taste like. She was born in 173 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 1: nineteen twelve and raised on a farm seven and a 174 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: half miles north of Warren, Arkansas, picking cotton, milk and 175 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: cows and feeding chickens. You'd think with that resume, she'd 176 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: have been the queen of sweet tea, but you'd be wrong. 177 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 1: My mama liked sweet tea. My dad likes sweet tea. 178 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 1: My grandfather find A Sly. Her husband liked sweet tea, 179 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: but bless his heart, he didn't get to drink it. 180 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: Not good sweet tea at least I was. Mama Sly 181 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: made it. She had a gray stoneware a picture that 182 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: had two blue stripes on it that she put the 183 00:11:23,520 --> 00:11:26,160 Speaker 1: tea in when she made it. Could be sitting on 184 00:11:26,200 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: the table. When I sat down and saw it there, 185 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: I knew I was in for some tough swallowing ahead 186 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: of me if I drank it, so I always opted 187 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: for milk, except on Friday nights, when we always ate 188 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:42,839 Speaker 1: fish like any self respected Southerner does. If we didn't 189 00:11:42,840 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: fix it at home, we loaded up and went out 190 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 1: to eat it. But on the occasion to which I'm referring, 191 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: I was sitting in my appointed chair on the east 192 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,320 Speaker 1: side of the table, the chair I always set in 193 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:56,079 Speaker 1: when I stayed there. My grandfather was at the head 194 00:11:56,120 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: on the south end, and directly across from me was 195 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,520 Speaker 1: my sainted Mama. Slo poured me up a glass of 196 00:12:01,559 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: tea that was so stout you could have floated a 197 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: steel wedge in it. It was so dark you could 198 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: stand ankle deep in it and not see your feet. 199 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,839 Speaker 1: I watched my Papall dump enough lemon juice and sugar 200 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: in it to make it somewhat palatable. I don't think 201 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: he really liked it. I think he drank it because 202 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 1: he loved my Mama's lye, and I loved her too. 203 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 1: So when I took a drink of it and I said, 204 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 1: this tea don't taste like Mama's, Papall cut his eyes 205 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: at me, and I don't know if he was thinking 206 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: that this fifth born grandson had been sent here as 207 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:39,319 Speaker 1: his own personal Moses to deliver him from the bondage 208 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: of Mama slies Tea, or if he thought that statement, 209 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: I just spontaneously uttered after choking down the most bitter 210 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 1: solution this side of purified green per simmons had been 211 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: more dangerous than mixing milk and fish. We never found 212 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 1: out because my mama's slie said rather sternly, will I'll 213 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: fix you some water? Papaull kept eating and I didn't die. 214 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: I looked it up, and the myth of milk and 215 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,000 Speaker 1: fish goes back a long way, and at its origins, 216 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 1: it's believed to have caused skin problems somewhere along the way. 217 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: When it reached that little farm seven and a half 218 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:21,559 Speaker 1: miles north of Warren, Arkansas, possible skin problems had turned 219 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: into imminent death. Another superstition that I can attribute to 220 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: my mama's life was whenever we were walking side by 221 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: side and a pole or a parking meter, or a fence 222 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: post or any type of object came between us, she'd 223 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: say bread and butter. Now I never thought much about it, 224 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:42,959 Speaker 1: For all I knew she was going over a grocery 225 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: list and I'm easily distracted. But the origins of the 226 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: saying go back a long time ago. Like most old 227 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: sayings like that, it's supposed to ward off any future 228 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 1: happenings that would separate the relationship. Something come between you 229 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: is that when butter is spread on bread, that you 230 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: can't take it off. I say it now, and I 231 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 1: have said it ever since I noticed her saying it 232 00:14:07,880 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: when I was just a kid. It was one of 233 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: a myriad of sayings, phrases, and observations that Alexis found 234 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 1: herself having to learn. When we got together. She struggled 235 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: with me saying dinner and meaning what she would call lunch, 236 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: to the point that I heard her in the kitchen 237 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: in her apartment one day saying, over and over breakfast dinner, 238 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: so breakfast dinner, so breakfast dinner. So I said, what 239 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 1: are you doing, to which she said, I'm trying to 240 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: learn a new language. That It came as no surprise 241 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: when we were walking to a restaurant one evening not 242 00:14:41,520 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: long after that, and a parking meter came in between 243 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: us and she said, peanut butter and jelly. I said 244 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: what she said, peanut butter and jelly. No biscuits and gravy. 245 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,920 Speaker 1: Biscuits and gravy. That's it, I said, No, dear, it's 246 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: bread and butter. I appreciate you trying. One that really 247 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: got her one day when we were still dating, was 248 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: when I was driving us somewhere and a cat ran 249 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: across the road in front of us. This was back 250 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: when she still stayed away long enough to have a conversation, 251 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 1: instead of like now, when she builds herself a blanket 252 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: cocoon to hibernate in until we reach our destination that 253 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: could be as far away as another state or as 254 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: close as the grocery store. Anyway, the cat crossed the road, 255 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: and in mid conversation, I made an X with my 256 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 1: right index finger in the top left hand corner of 257 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: the windshield, turned my head and made a spitting noise 258 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: over my left shoulder, and continued on with whatever I 259 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: was saying, as if nothing had happened. When she didn't respond, 260 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 1: I looked over at her, and she was staring at me. 261 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: Her eyes were big, her mouth was partially open, and 262 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,760 Speaker 1: her little bump of a nose snarled upwards in utter disgust. 263 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: I asked her, what's wrong? She said, are you spitting 264 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: in the car, because if you are and don't stop immediately, 265 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: this is a deal breaker. No, I didn't really spill, 266 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 1: I just made that racket. A cat crossed the road 267 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: in front of us. Now, I assume she didn't see 268 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: it as if that was going to make what I 269 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: had just done easier for her to understand. I've always 270 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: taken it for granted that everyone grew up like me 271 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: and what I did was just a social norm. Other folks, 272 00:16:26,960 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: my wife included, refer to them as social abnormalities. I 273 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: saw my dad do it a million times, and when 274 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: I asked you why, he said it was the ward 275 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: off bad luck. And it wasn't just limited to black cats. 276 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: It was any and every cat that ever crossed the 277 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: road in front of us. It was learned behavior from 278 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: him to me, and I have no idea where he 279 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: got it from. My son Hunter does it as well 280 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,120 Speaker 1: as my oldest daughter Amy, but the baby girl Cub 281 00:16:54,160 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: doesn't not yet. Anyway, something I was told I wasn't 282 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: supposed to to do as well was talk about a 283 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: dream I'd have before eating breakfast. I can't remember where 284 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,439 Speaker 1: I heard that one from, but it was always just 285 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: been a part of my knowledge or lack of however 286 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,639 Speaker 1: you want to look at it. The real was you 287 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: didn't talk about a dream before breakfast unless you wanted 288 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,920 Speaker 1: it to come true. And most of my dreams over 289 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: ten years had me duking it out with someone, and 290 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: during the fight, my arms would only move in slow motion. 291 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: I could feel myself swinging as hard and fast as 292 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 1: I could, only to look like I was swimming in 293 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,640 Speaker 1: my glasses now. The first time I sprung that one 294 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: on the lexus was at her parents' house. We'd all 295 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 1: gathered for breakfast, and she started, let me tell you 296 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 1: about this dream I had last night. WHOA Was it 297 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:51,640 Speaker 1: a good dream? No, it was scary. You can't talk 298 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: about it until you eat something. What you can't talk 299 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 1: about it until you eat something or to come true? 300 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,399 Speaker 1: She stared at me from across the table. Everyone else, 301 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: her parents, sister, and her grandmother's eyes are kind of 302 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: darting back and forth to each other. As I told 303 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 1: her to at least take a bite or something before 304 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,959 Speaker 1: she talked about it, I could see her reevaluating her 305 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: life choices up to that moment as she looked at me, 306 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: contemplating how the rest of her life would play out 307 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: being married to me, and she slowly deliberately took a 308 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,879 Speaker 1: bite from that fork as she had hovered in the 309 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:30,360 Speaker 1: air above her plate. There I took a bite. Now 310 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,360 Speaker 1: we don't have to worry about the flying monkeys from 311 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: the Wizard of Oz stealing the riding lawnmower and running 312 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:40,359 Speaker 1: over our mailbox. Now we all laughed and laughed, and 313 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: it was funny. She's funny, But our mailbox has remained undamaged, 314 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: and that happened before Bathing was born, So who's laughing now? 315 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: Superstitions are a funny thing for me. They're more out 316 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 1: of a habit than a belief. And I don't think 317 00:18:58,320 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: milk and fish will kill you. I also don't think 318 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: knocking on wood would ward off any evil spirits or 319 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: spitting over your shoulder. We keep a cat from bringing 320 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 1: you harm, just like walking under a ladder ain't going 321 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 1: to hurt a thing. But why take a chance a 322 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: stilly tradition that connects me to the past and the 323 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: people that I think about when I do them or 324 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 1: talk about them to others. Explaining them to Lexis would 325 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: be the starting point to many conversations that would begin 326 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: with me telling her about Mama's lies, saying bread and butter, 327 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: and end up with us having spent time together, laughing 328 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: and talking and learning about each other's families. And we 329 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: still do that. If you're talking and laughing and learning 330 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: with the folks you love, man, that's about as lucky 331 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: as you can get. Thank y'all so much for listening 332 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: to us here on the Old Bear Grease Channel. I 333 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 1: hope everyone had a safe and happy New Year's celebration, 334 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,680 Speaker 1: and I look forward to talking to y'all again next week. 335 00:19:56,320 --> 00:20:06,160 Speaker 1: Until then, this is Brent Reeds signing off. I think