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Speaker 1: tonight on the NFL Network and ESPN schedule release party.
Speaker 1: Probably won't be primetime matchups or playoff rematches. Now, those
Speaker 1: will be fun to watch, but the real news is
Speaker 1: how the schedule reveals the league's contingency plans. You got
Speaker 1: a three hour show on ESPN and the NFL Network.
Speaker 1: I don't know how much time they're going to vote
Speaker 1: to this, but it's we talked about and I brought
Speaker 1: it to your attention over a month ago. The schedule
Speaker 1: makers were looking at the contingency plans of a twelve
Speaker 1: game season. I know, contingency plan schedules doesn't sound exciting,
Speaker 1: but it's pretty important here it's going to happen. I
Speaker 1: think that You're going to probably see frontloaded schedules with
Speaker 1: non conference games just in case the NFL starts this
Speaker 1: season late. The games are always interesting, but they're less
Speaker 1: impactful in the standings. And this is all unchartered territory.
Speaker 1: The NFL has kept saying they plan on a full season.
Speaker 1: Well they should, but they have a contingency plan. You
Speaker 1: get the sense that they're working pretty hard on the alternatives,
Speaker 1: and maybe the schedules will reveal some of the bigger
Speaker 1: clues of what they're thinking as they try to kick
Speaker 1: off the twenty twenty season. Here are a couple of
Speaker 1: notes that Mike Florio pointed out. For example, will the
Speaker 1: schedule allow for the possibility of certain teams sharing stadiums?
Speaker 1: You got the teams in California that might not be
Speaker 1: able to host games. Therefore, if the California teams have
Speaker 1: to go elsewhere, the Chargers could play in Phoenix. Let's
Speaker 1: say Rams could play in Vegas, the Miners could go
Speaker 1: to Denver. These are just contingency plans here, but I
Speaker 1: think that these are real questions that they're trying to answer. Here.
Speaker 1: You got teams who are going to need to have
Speaker 1: home games on different weeks home games separated by one
Speaker 1: or two more days. If you play a game on Sunday,
Speaker 1: can you play a game there on Monday? Could you
Speaker 1: play a game on Monday and a game on Thursday.
Speaker 1: These are things that are being discussed right now with
Speaker 1: the NFL twelve games. If they start later, are you
Speaker 1: going to have non conference games up front? Therefore, if
Speaker 1: you lose those, it's okay. You want the division games.
Speaker 1: You want AFC versus AFC, NFC versus NFC, you want
Speaker 1: that to still be part of the schedule. Just some
Speaker 1: things to keep an eye on as we have the
Speaker 1: scheduling party that comes up tonight, and there's always the
Speaker 1: entertaining part of this of what's the first game. It's
Speaker 1: on NBC. It's usually the Super Bowl winning team hosting
Speaker 1: somebody and it's a marquee match up. And then there's
Speaker 1: this Sunday night game as well on NBC. That's always
Speaker 1: fun to try to handicap who's going to be playing
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs. Will they play on Thursday night?
Speaker 1: Will they play on Sunday night? If I said, if
Speaker 1: we went around the room and I said, you could
Speaker 1: pick the matchup, you won first game of the season,
Speaker 1: and you know that the game is going to be played. See.
Speaker 1: And that's another thing. You might pick a game that
Speaker 1: won't be played even though it should be played to
Speaker 1: start the season. We might be a month later, and
Speaker 1: therefore you pick up the schedule in week four or
Speaker 1: week five. That's where it will be tricky. Yeah, playing.
Speaker 1: So you're saying we could pick any game from any
Speaker 1: two teams to lead the NFL season off. That's the
Speaker 1: rationale here, Well, we already know fun. I would rather
Speaker 1: pick what could be reality. Can we do both? Well,
Speaker 1: we can, But that's like you don't you want to
Speaker 1: come in tomorrow and say, hey, I told you that
Speaker 1: was going to be the game that was going to
Speaker 1: be played instead of here's a hypothetical that they don't
Speaker 1: even play this year. Mclovin. Look at the Kansas City
Speaker 1: Chiefs schedule and let's just say you were picking the
Speaker 1: most entertaining game to start to see, I already know
Speaker 1: what my matchup would be. Well, I think the Chiefs
Speaker 1: have the ideals schedule. Anyway, I'm pulling it up now
Speaker 1: because they play I believe they play yeah to c South. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they have the Bucks are on there. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: that's your matchup. No, that's your matchup. Well, they also
Speaker 1: have the Ravens though, dare no, No, that's that's your matchup.
Speaker 1: Brady versus Mahomes. And you put the Buccaneers there with
Speaker 1: Kansas City? Yeah, Seaton, don't you feel like there's some
Speaker 1: way the Cowboys have to be in there? Though they
Speaker 1: might be on a Sunday night, maybe Sunday night. You
Speaker 1: know NBC is going to have Thursday and Sunday though
Speaker 1: you'd be able to get you'd be able to cover
Speaker 1: those fan bases, I think, but I'm not sure the
Speaker 1: Cowboys schedule. But Kansas City versus Tampa Bay, right out
Speaker 1: of the gate, that's spicy, YU total hypothetical. Let's say
Speaker 1: you could do it. Wave your wand Dan, you run
Speaker 1: NBC Sports. You could have the Kansas City Chiefs versus
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers is your opening game, or the
Speaker 1: Buccaneers versus the Patriots as your opening game. Hypothetical you
Speaker 1: can pick. I would take the Buccaneers versus the Patriots.
Speaker 1: That would be there's nothing bigger would be better than that.
Speaker 1: Right Hypothetically, it might not be a great game, but
Speaker 1: it would be interesting and if you're just gonna have
Speaker 1: the Brady Belichick aspect, Gronk back. How healthy is he
Speaker 1: going to be? But that's hypothetical. They don't play this year. Yeah, McLevin,
Speaker 1: you don't feel the Lamar Jackson Patrick Mahomes showdown. That
Speaker 1: would be fun too. It just it will be. I
Speaker 1: just want to make sure that I got Brady and
Speaker 1: Gronk still healthy to be able to play in a game.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go. Let's wait till week eight.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it sounds great to have that build
Speaker 1: up to something like that, but I'd rather get that
Speaker 1: right out of the game. Probably won't happen, but that's
Speaker 1: what I would want. Yeah, mc cleven, dope, Fox and
Speaker 1: CBS try to protect a couple of games, So aren't
Speaker 1: they going to go after that Brady Chiefs game too? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I don't know how that works. The inner workings of
Speaker 1: the networks and you protect and how many games you
Speaker 1: can protect. I don't think you can protect the first weekend.
Speaker 1: I think that that's the NFL's way of saying to
Speaker 1: NBC Football Night in America, Sunday Night Football, Hey, your
Speaker 1: guys are the best at what you do. We give
Speaker 1: you these Marquee games. Yeah, PAULI here's another one that
Speaker 1: I have the Tampa schedule this year, not who they play,
Speaker 1: not when Green Bay at Tampa. For your homeworker, I
Speaker 1: like that. That's saucy, yea. I like that just because
Speaker 1: of the whole Rodgers thing. Rogers could be in a situation,
Speaker 1: just like Tom Brady was with the Patriots. There who else?
Speaker 1: Any other games there that are Tampa. Tampa's got the Rams,
Speaker 1: They've got the Saints a couple of times, of course,
Speaker 1: you know, all right, so give me the Chiefs they have,
Speaker 1: they got Saints, they got Tampa Bay, they got the Ravens.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys and Chiefs don't play, do they, because that
Speaker 1: would be that's the way you'll open up the season. Yeah, McLevin,
Speaker 1: they have let's see the Texans, the Raiders, the Jets,
Speaker 1: the Bills, Bills, they're a hot team. Charging No, no, no,
Speaker 1: you're not, oh Dolphins, Dolphins anyway. Yeah, I mean, you
Speaker 1: don't think the will the rookies all be ready to
Speaker 1: play by then? I doubt it. Maybe Borrow. We don't
Speaker 1: even know when they get into camp. We have we
Speaker 1: have no idea. I know, we have a lot of
Speaker 1: speculation the possibility. I don't know if you have players
Speaker 1: in camp by July August. I mean they're they're going
Speaker 1: ahead with the Hall of Fame game, with the preseason game.
Speaker 1: I think that's a little aggressive. I think the season's
Speaker 1: going to be delayed. I do. I think the NFL
Speaker 1: is going to hold out hope that they when they start,
Speaker 1: they can have fans go to the games. I think
Speaker 1: that that would be the reason for the delay. I
Speaker 1: think that they'll still be playing football. You know, is
Speaker 1: college football gonna be delayed? I think so. Now the
Speaker 1: other interesting part, We're gonna talk to Kirk Ferns, the
Speaker 1: Ayway head coach, and I think he's bringing his players
Speaker 1: back June first, at least that's the last thing I saw.
Speaker 1: So we'll talk to the Ioway head coach. What if
Speaker 1: the season is delayed, and Chris Bowler brought this up
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, what if they are playing
Speaker 1: in this spring? What if college football has to wait
Speaker 1: until January February to start. Well, if I'm Trevor Lawrence,
Speaker 1: see you, I'm not going out there in this spring.
Speaker 1: You know, you start on time, you play, Okay, But
Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, I'm gonna be playing in
Speaker 1: February or March. I don't know. I think you're gonna
Speaker 1: have some some first round talent say they're gonna treat
Speaker 1: it like a bowl game and say no, and I
Speaker 1: don't think so. They're gonna they're gonna boasta it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mcleban. Won't that help my bet with you about
Speaker 1: going there? Will? Look, I don't even know what the
Speaker 1: odds are because they're not in my favor of Trevor
Speaker 1: Lawrence and somebody going above Trevor Lawrence. I don't know
Speaker 1: what Vegas's odds are, probably not not anywhere near in
Speaker 1: my favor. But that's okay. I made the bet a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Yes, but we know how this
Speaker 1: works out. It never works out the way it's supposed to, never,
Speaker 1: never ever, except once with Andrew Luck. Yes, Bully, how
Speaker 1: about this one? Okay, I'm gonna throw you a little
Speaker 1: hypothetical at the opening game. And why are you dealing
Speaker 1: with hypotheticals? Reality sucks? Sucks. I don't even know. I
Speaker 1: love reality? Oh all reality? Really? Oh my bad? I'm
Speaker 1: just like wow, brought in Tony reality at the opening
Speaker 1: game of the NFL season. To be honest, were Brady
Speaker 1: versus Mahomes or and then they're Bowl starting the Miami
Speaker 1: Dolphins versus the Bengals, two of versus Joe Burrow. You
Speaker 1: go and pick to watch one, and it's an entirety.
Speaker 1: Be honest, I would take Brady and Mahome because I
Speaker 1: don't know what to expect out of Joe Burrow and TWA.
Speaker 1: I know what to expect out of Brady and Mahomes,
Speaker 1: and I put the gronk element in there. I have
Speaker 1: no idea if Burrow and two are going to be successful.
Speaker 1: I know Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes are successful. I
Speaker 1: at least get good quality quarterback play there. I also
Speaker 1: was told by a source last night, He's like, you know,
Speaker 1: everybody loves Joe Burrow. He had a wonderful season, greatest
Speaker 1: season a quarterback has ever had. But Jordan Love might
Speaker 1: actually have an opportunity for more success than Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1: And I went, all right, I'm listening. He said, Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow's going to the Bengals. Now the organization are they
Speaker 1: going to surround him? Do they have people in place
Speaker 1: who are going to be able to draft sign free agent?
Speaker 1: When's the last time the Bengals had a big time
Speaker 1: free agent sign with them. Is never the correct answer there,
Speaker 1: get they go one. Whereas Jordan Love, let's say in
Speaker 1: three years from now, he's sat there at the feet
Speaker 1: of Aaron Rodgers and he goes to the Packers with
Speaker 1: an established front office there, does he have a better
Speaker 1: chance of succeeding. Go back to what I've said about
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, Dak Prescott, Deshaun Watson. If they went to
Speaker 1: teams that were worse, they would not be who they are.
Speaker 1: They would still be talented. Mahomes would be a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. If Mahomes was on Jacksonville, We're not talking
Speaker 1: about Patrick Mahomes the way we talk about him in
Speaker 1: Kansas City. He went there with an established coach, underrated
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, and as good at skilled position players as
Speaker 1: anybody in the league. Deshaun Watson goes to Houston, He's
Speaker 1: got skilled position players. He had DeAndre Hopkins there, he
Speaker 1: had a formidable defense there. Granted he was saddled with
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien, but he's still had more success because the
Speaker 1: team is ready to go. Jordan Love might be in
Speaker 1: a situation like that. Yeah, is this the same Jordan
Speaker 1: Love that went to the same Packers who we just
Speaker 1: spent the last week. You're killing for because they don't
Speaker 1: draft anybody to help their quarterback. Well, they do draft players,
Speaker 1: but they just don't draft anybody that helps the quarterback. Well, okay,
Speaker 1: but Aaron Rodgers is the most talented quarterback of all time.
Speaker 1: I'm told, therefore, you don't need any weapons. Right, and
Speaker 1: so Jordan Love hopefully is going to be better than that. Well,
Speaker 1: he's gonna be other than the most talented quarterback of
Speaker 1: all time. No, no, he's not going to be as good.
Speaker 1: Therefore they have to get him some weapons. Therefore, he
Speaker 1: has a chance to succeed. Hey, and that's why he's
Speaker 1: in a better situation. Yes, yes, yes, yes, Hey blame
Speaker 1: my source here, Blame him, not me, Yes, Paul. So
Speaker 1: you're saying, all these years the Packers have not taken
Speaker 1: a first round wide receiver, was a compliment to Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 1: You think we think you're so good you don't need help.
Speaker 1: The same with Tom Brady here it is. And so
Speaker 1: then when they Jordan Love gets in there and they
Speaker 1: draft the first round wide receiver, he's gonna be like
Speaker 1: you don't think I'm gonna get it now. That'll be
Speaker 1: like undisputed or first take Oh Packers send a message.
Speaker 1: They took a wide receiver. Jordan Love not as good
Speaker 1: as we thought. Question Mark no Love. Question mark. This
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Speaker 1: All right, So the scheduling party, are you guys gonna
Speaker 1: Is this a big deal with you guys? Because I'm
Speaker 1: the teams are already going to release their schedules. All
Speaker 1: I want to know is what are the Thanksgiving Day games?
Speaker 1: The season opener? What's gonna be the front end or
Speaker 1: back end of the schedule? Are you going to be
Speaker 1: looking at games where teams could be playing in another stadium?
Speaker 1: That's what I'm curious about. For the most part, we
Speaker 1: know who you're playing, we don't know when you're playing them.
Speaker 1: Do you have maybe a situation where three out of
Speaker 1: four games are on the road, you know, That's what
Speaker 1: I'm curious about. Yeah, pulling. I kind of watch a
Speaker 1: schedule release for work, but as a fan, I'm watching
Speaker 1: every single game anyway. Truly, I watch every single NFL game,
Speaker 1: whether it's Red Zone or Monday night, Sunday night. I
Speaker 1: guess the schedule doesn't really matter. I'm gonna take a
Speaker 1: peek at it, but we watch them all. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: fun to debate here what should be, But that's about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think I won't watch the whole thing because I'll
Speaker 1: just take the cliff notes version and we discuss it tomorrow.
Speaker 1: But as far as waiting for a big reveal, the
Speaker 1: big reveal would be the first weekend, and I guess Thanksgiving.
Speaker 1: You know the lines are going to be there, the
Speaker 1: cowboys are going to be there. Who they're going to play? Yeah, mickleven,
Speaker 1: I mean the seven thirty Twitter releases. Teams are going
Speaker 1: at seven thirty. That'll be more interesting. I hate to
Speaker 1: say it, but it's hard to watch. Have you watched
Speaker 1: that show before? It's kind of hard. Now I've watched it,
Speaker 1: and it's just I can't sit there and watch three
Speaker 1: hours of it. I like the discussion. I like that
Speaker 1: somebody is gonna jump on something and say, oh, look
Speaker 1: at this. This team plays these games on the road. Hey,
Speaker 1: this team has back to back games against these two teams. Now,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm curious about. One other thing, Johnny Unitis.
Speaker 1: This would have been his birthday to day. I don't
Speaker 1: know how old Johnny. He was born in nineteen thirty three.
Speaker 1: And we forget about Johnny Unitas because and we shouldn't.
Speaker 1: He created the two minute drill. First quarterback to throw
Speaker 1: for more than forty thousand passing yards, first quarterback to
Speaker 1: ever have thirty or more touchdowns in a season. And
Speaker 1: the reason why I want to bring this up is
Speaker 1: he had a forty seven consecutive game streak of throwing
Speaker 1: at least one touchdown nineteen fifty six to nineteen sixty. Now,
Speaker 1: that record was eventually broken in twenty thirteen by Drew Brees,
Speaker 1: and I thought, okay, completely different NFL now than it
Speaker 1: was when Johnny Unitis was the quarterback and I had
Speaker 1: statsinco back and I said, give me the average number
Speaker 1: of passes that Unitis attempted during this streak, and that
Speaker 1: Drew Brees did. Unitis attempted twenty seven passes per game
Speaker 1: back then, which was a lot. Drew Brees during his
Speaker 1: streak thirty nine twelve more passing attempts in a style
Speaker 1: that allows more freedom for the wide receivers to be
Speaker 1: able to get down the field. Johnny Unitis, if you
Speaker 1: can be underrated, is underrated because we're gonna look at
Speaker 1: these numbers and they're going to seem pedestrian. But Johnny
Speaker 1: Unitis and Raymond Barry like that was different. It just
Speaker 1: it was a three yards in a cloud of dust
Speaker 1: back then in the NFL. But you know, the Colts
Speaker 1: had a lot of talent there. But Unitis to Raymond Barry,
Speaker 1: he created the two minute drill. And there was a
Speaker 1: guy who wasn't even drafted. But Johnny you was born
Speaker 1: today in nineteen thirty three. Yeah, point, I found two
Speaker 1: little tidbits about Johnny Unitis. He wanted to play for
Speaker 1: Notre Dame, grew up a Notre Dame fan. He walked
Speaker 1: on the team and frankly, he said he's too skinny
Speaker 1: and he would get murdered out on the field, And
Speaker 1: so he left the program and he went to the
Speaker 1: University of Louisville. He was drafted I think in the
Speaker 1: ninth round. He was Pittsburgh Steelers and he was the
Speaker 1: odd man out among four quarterbacks and they cut him
Speaker 1: without giving any practice stamps, according to the story. And
Speaker 1: he went to the Baltimore Coles. Yeah. For some reason
Speaker 1: I thought that he was not drafted. Wow, but went
Speaker 1: to the Colts as a free agent. He was playing
Speaker 1: semi pro football in Bloomfield. Was he in Pittsburgh when
Speaker 1: he was Yeah? And then he tried out further. It
Speaker 1: was a last minute tryout he got through a friend
Speaker 1: with the Baltimore Coles. Pretty incredible. McLevin, which pool question? Today,
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to Pat forty, by the way, talk
Speaker 1: some college football, because I don't know where we are
Speaker 1: right now with college football. I can honestly say I
Speaker 1: don't and I don't think college football knows where college
Speaker 1: football is. But you have coaches who are saying things.
Speaker 1: James Franklin at Penn State said, Hey, we're planning on
Speaker 1: plan even if there are schools like you know, he
Speaker 1: didn't say, like Northwestern that can't play. You know, imagine
Speaker 1: this with Vanderbilt. Vanderbilt, you know they're about education first,
Speaker 1: then their football team. If they can't open up on time,
Speaker 1: does anybody in the SEC say, hey, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: let's wait for Vanderbilt here. I don't know what these
Speaker 1: conferences are going to do. I get the feeling the
Speaker 1: SEC is going to play football, and if you can
Speaker 1: open your school, great, If you can't, we're still going
Speaker 1: to play football. It feels like. But we'll talk to
Speaker 1: Kirk Ference, the Eyeway head coach, but Pat Forty will
Speaker 1: join us coming up here in a couple of minutes.
Speaker 1: What do you have, mclovin, Well, we could do the
Speaker 1: what game do you want to see? You sound like
Speaker 1: there's dead set on Mahomes versus Brady, which is pretty good,
Speaker 1: But we could tah and Burrow do play. If Tua
Speaker 1: was going to play the Dolphins of Bengals face off.
Speaker 1: You do have Lamar Jackson versus Mahomes, and you have
Speaker 1: Breese versus Brady. I think anybody will vote for anything
Speaker 1: other I think you're right. I think it's Bradys Moomes.
Speaker 1: But well, well, Breese and Brady, you can't do that
Speaker 1: to start because you may lose that game. You have
Speaker 1: to have dispensable games that are still entertaining. But if
Speaker 1: you have to lop off four games. You're gonna do
Speaker 1: that first month, and therefore you don't want to You
Speaker 1: can't do the inner division interconference games. You can't lose those. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but based on that, don't you save Brady versus Malomes?
Speaker 1: I would, But you know, I know this game is
Speaker 1: going to happen. The question is when do you want
Speaker 1: it to happen? If you're the NFL. That that's what's
Speaker 1: intriguing to me tonight, because you can't go on second thought, Hey,
Speaker 1: we're going to move that game back to Christmas or
Speaker 1: something like you. Once you put it in place, that's it.
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Speaker 1: searching f SR. We got the new shipment of T shirts.
Speaker 1: We got the Tom Brady well it's his first name
Speaker 1: is Tom Paulli has on the Gronkin Ears. He's got
Speaker 1: that T shirt on with Sun's Out, Guns Out. We've
Speaker 1: got those T shirts. But the other T shirt it
Speaker 1: could be Tom Brady related or could is there another
Speaker 1: guy named Tom on the Buccaneers, Paul, could you check
Speaker 1: probably in the in the organization somewhere in the back
Speaker 1: of Maybe it's just a tribute T shirt to that guy.
Speaker 1: And then on the back of that his first name
Speaker 1: is Tom. I think it's we appreciate your enthusiasm. Also
Speaker 1: from the season assist our Season assist letter that we got,
Speaker 1: Pat forty Sports Illustrated senior writer looking good joining us
Speaker 1: on the program. Pat, good morning. How's morale? Hanging in there? Dan,
Speaker 1: hanging in there? You know, Groundhog Day over and over.
Speaker 1: If my hair grows any longer, I'm going to be
Speaker 1: an honorary Allman Brother here pretty soon. But we're making
Speaker 1: it all right. Simple question, who runs college football? The
Speaker 1: oligarchy of the Power five conference commissioners, So basically, a
Speaker 1: group of five guys runs the sport. There's nobody at
Speaker 1: the NCAA that seriously matters, and you can decide out
Speaker 1: to those five who the most important are probably Greg
Speaker 1: Sankey of the SEC and Kevin Warren of the Big
Speaker 1: Ten and Kevin Warren's brand new What role does ESPN
Speaker 1: play in all of this? Oh, they certainly have a role,
Speaker 1: no doubt about it, a big role, you know. I
Speaker 1: think that they helped kind of push towards the creation
Speaker 1: of the playoff, and they will no doubt have a
Speaker 1: say in what happens this season if we have a season.
Speaker 1: When we have a season, what it looks like, how
Speaker 1: long it lasts, and who's involved in the postseason. I
Speaker 1: know that we want answers for something that's supposed to
Speaker 1: take place in a couple of months, and we can't
Speaker 1: come up with answers. But it feels like, you know,
Speaker 1: if we set an arbitrary date and then we don't
Speaker 1: adhere to that, then all of a sudden, you know,
Speaker 1: there's doom and gloom here. At what point do you say,
Speaker 1: if we don't have something that resembles football practice by
Speaker 1: this date, then the season's in jeopardy. You know. I
Speaker 1: think that you can go as long as August first,
Speaker 1: before players are on campus and practicing. That would be
Speaker 1: the latest I would say for an on time on
Speaker 1: schedule season, it could be more mid July. People I've
Speaker 1: talked to commissioners ads basically June one they want to
Speaker 1: have a pretty good idea. June fifteen, they want to
Speaker 1: have a better idea. July one probably dropped dead as
Speaker 1: far as yes or no, we're going to play starting
Speaker 1: August twenty ninth slash Labor Day weekend. I was told
Speaker 1: by Source a couple of days ago that what you're
Speaker 1: probably going to look at, and this changes every day,
Speaker 1: but you'd have ten games that you would play. Nine
Speaker 1: would be in the conference, and if you played a
Speaker 1: game outside the conference, you know, Ohio State would play
Speaker 1: Ohio University or like it'd be a bus trip you
Speaker 1: would not. But he but he said, look, the PAC
Speaker 1: twelve is the one that's really in trouble here because
Speaker 1: of what's going on in the state. And you know,
Speaker 1: you're all the way up in Washington, you're in Oregon,
Speaker 1: you're in Arizona. That's gonna make it pretty tough. What
Speaker 1: do you make of those those thoughts? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I think that both are viable thoughts for sure. You
Speaker 1: know that I think that they're looking definitely at models
Speaker 1: for a shortened season conference heavy, as you said, maybe
Speaker 1: a non conference game they're gonna definitely be trying to
Speaker 1: curtail expenses. You know. The one thing that the Pac
Speaker 1: twelve obviously is a whole different different situation right now.
Speaker 1: But even within conferences, Dan in the ACC, Clemson may say, hey,
Speaker 1: let's go, Boston College maybe saying wait a minute. In
Speaker 1: the Big Ten, Iowa may be saying let's play, Rutgers
Speaker 1: is saying we can't. So this is going to be
Speaker 1: fascinating to me, first of all, conference by conference, And
Speaker 1: is this the beginning of the long discussed, prophesied schism
Speaker 1: of college football where a powerful group goes one way
Speaker 1: and everybody else goes the other. We're not you know?
Speaker 1: Is it where the SEC says we're playing, the Big
Speaker 1: Ten says we were not sure whether we're playing, the
Speaker 1: Pack twelve says no, we're not. I think that this
Speaker 1: could open up some real fractures within the game that
Speaker 1: we've already seen, at least talked about for many years. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think those are great points. And I wonder if
Speaker 1: let's say, the SEC says we're gonna, we're voting, we're
Speaker 1: playing Vanderbilt says we can't do that. And does the
Speaker 1: SEC say, all right, hey, have a nice offseason here,
Speaker 1: we're going to play football. Does the Big Ten say
Speaker 1: to Northwestern or Rutgers, sorry, guys, sorry, you can't play
Speaker 1: Like are we going to get to that point where
Speaker 1: you know, it's almost in fighting in the in the
Speaker 1: own conference? Oh? I you know, I think that the
Speaker 1: conference and will do everything they can to avoid that,
Speaker 1: especially really SEC Big Ten. The SEC's going back to
Speaker 1: Mike's live. One of the hallmarks of his tenure was solidarity.
Speaker 1: We do everything together, we stay in lockstep or in
Speaker 1: agreement on big issues, even if we're not. Really that's
Speaker 1: the pub what we're going to present, So they'll try
Speaker 1: to avoid it. But yes, could it come to that, absolutely,
Speaker 1: you know, And I think that then you're looking at
Speaker 1: at the eventually is well, why is vanderbuilt in our
Speaker 1: conference anyway? They don't really seem to fit here? Or
Speaker 1: you know, why did we bring Rutgers into the Big Ten?
Speaker 1: What have they done? Exactly? So you know, I think
Speaker 1: this opens up a big philosophical can of worms, going
Speaker 1: back to conference allegiance and alliances. You know, some of
Speaker 1: these that are decades are almost a century old. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think people in the Big Twelve have been sitting
Speaker 1: around if you're in the state of Texas saying, Iowa State,
Speaker 1: Kansas State, really do we need you? So these discussions
Speaker 1: could be had as we go along. He spat forty
Speaker 1: from Sports Illustrated senior writer covers not only college football
Speaker 1: but basketball as well. And that's another thing when you
Speaker 1: start to look at the schedule, if it's moved back,
Speaker 1: and let's say we're playing football in the spring. Do
Speaker 1: you have some of these first round draft picks who
Speaker 1: look at this the way Christian McCaffrey looked at a
Speaker 1: bowl game and said, you are nick boss, and I'm
Speaker 1: going to shut it down here, Like I wonder how
Speaker 1: far is too far if you're I don't know if
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence would do this, but I'm sure he'd have
Speaker 1: advisors to say, let's look at this and make an
Speaker 1: educated guess or decision. Sure, no doubt about it. Look
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. My experience around him is he he's a competitor,
Speaker 1: he's a team guy who loves Clemson. He would love
Speaker 1: to play. But there could very well be some quote
Speaker 1: unquote cooler heads that would step in and say look, son,
Speaker 1: you've got an eighty million dollar future sitting out there
Speaker 1: when the NFL Draft happens, and then you're going to
Speaker 1: go immediately into a training camp, into a rookie training camp,
Speaker 1: and then a full schedule failed training camp. You want
Speaker 1: to be playing college football in the spring going right
Speaker 1: up into that. What if you get hurt, what if
Speaker 1: something else happens, What if you're dead fatigued in the
Speaker 1: middle of the twenty twenty one season in the NFL
Speaker 1: because you played a late college football season. So I
Speaker 1: think there's no doubt that those conversations would be had,
Speaker 1: and I think a lot of players would look askance
Speaker 1: at the spring schedule, at least the ones that are
Speaker 1: convinced they have a big dollar NFL future. If I
Speaker 1: said you had a bet a week's pay if we
Speaker 1: have football coming up Labor Day weekend, I would bet
Speaker 1: against at the moment, since my week's paying very much.
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be a big loss. But I think that
Speaker 1: you know that the hedge would be if we do
Speaker 1: have it, we're gonna have it with fewer no fans.
Speaker 1: If you can give me that bet, I would take that.
Speaker 1: Otherwise I would say the more likely if we want,
Speaker 1: if we want to be sure we're playing football, I
Speaker 1: think it's probably more likely it's October first. I'll leave
Speaker 1: you with this. I know you love talking about Rick Pattino.
Speaker 1: No longer at Louisville, but the remnants are still there.
Speaker 1: NCUBLEA tapped me in a knocked on the door again
Speaker 1: at Louisville. Here's Rick Pattino at IONA give a sort
Speaker 1: of the cliff notes version of what's happening and what
Speaker 1: could happen in this situation. Yeah, Louisville got a notice
Speaker 1: of allegations this week from the NCAA for not the
Speaker 1: strippers and hooker scandal, the one after the scandal after Oh,
Speaker 1: this is where they pay to recruit one hundred thousand
Speaker 1: dollars right, Yes, one hundred thousand dollars agreement for Brian Bowen,
Speaker 1: some other payments for other people. So they got one
Speaker 1: level one violation allegation, which is the most serious three
Speaker 1: level two. Spattino I thought it was very fortunate to
Speaker 1: only get a level two allegation against him, but it's
Speaker 1: still a serious deal that would preclude him. He would
Speaker 1: not be subject to a show cause penalty, which could
Speaker 1: take him out of things for a longer period time,
Speaker 1: but he could be hit with up to a half
Speaker 1: season suspension at IONA whenever this thing grinds through the
Speaker 1: nc double A process, which could be a year from now.
Speaker 1: So Patino not off the hook, but probably got away
Speaker 1: a little bit lighter than some people expected. Louisville, on
Speaker 1: the other hand, could still get hammered, so he could
Speaker 1: be coaching theoretically in a postseason that Louisville is banned from.
Speaker 1: But I wonder if the NCAA looks at Louisville they
Speaker 1: decided to clean house, and are they a little more
Speaker 1: lenient on Louisville because Louisville took the right steps to
Speaker 1: get these people out of those positions. Yeah, that's This
Speaker 1: is one of the more interesting cases I think in
Speaker 1: a while dand for that reason, because Louisville got rid
Speaker 1: of everybody at a time when everybody else that was
Speaker 1: involved in the federal corruption probe got rid of nobody.
Speaker 1: Bill Self stayed, Sean Miller stayed, Will Wade stayed, Bruce
Speaker 1: Pearl stayed. Patino was gone in a day. Tom Jurch
Speaker 1: the ad was gone in a short amount of time.
Speaker 1: The president of the school left the board of Trustees
Speaker 1: was remade, so they did a lot of things there.
Speaker 1: Now the cynic among us may point out, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: they didn't do anything after the first game. They waited
Speaker 1: until the second one before they got rid of everybody.
Speaker 1: So it's going to be an interesting balancing act I
Speaker 1: think for the NCAA to decide, do we smash the
Speaker 1: school they got rid of everyone, or do we give
Speaker 1: them credit for good behavior or reformed behavior. Pad great
Speaker 1: to talk to you is always thank you, Thank you, Dan,
Speaker 1: Stay healthy. That's Pad forty Sports Illustrated senior writer. We'll
Speaker 1: come back phone calls. Ben Roethlisberger didn't exactly get the
Speaker 1: stamp of approval, the seal of approval from Jay Glazer,
Speaker 1: who's good friends with Mike Tomlin. We'll talk about that
Speaker 1: with Big Ben. And should the Steelers have drafted a quarterback?
Speaker 1: Should the Steelers look at Cam Newton. We'll discuss that
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Speaker 1: the starting lineup if you can. Mock muld abdul Rawolf
Speaker 1: is on the team, correct with tomof course, Matumbo, here's
Speaker 1: one for you. Bison Dalle is Bison Daly on that team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he chipped in about twenty minutes off. Alrighty, there's a
Speaker 1: there's a couple that you'll get Brian Stith, Yes, good call.
Speaker 1: Reggie Williams Hie Williams correct, Yes, starter Okay, So Reggie Williams,
Speaker 1: you're down to one starter, A little energetic guard a
Speaker 1: little I thought that was Mark abdual ro another one,
Speaker 1: kind of a guy who's always like a hybrid starter backup,
Speaker 1: high energy guard is a tough one. Okay. Another hint.
Speaker 1: The hint is oh I got I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: Mark Macon. Okay. One more starter, a power forward who
Speaker 1: is probably mclovin's favorite NBA player of all time. Mclevin's
Speaker 1: out of wake, Forest Well, Rodney Roger okay. And then
Speaker 1: they had Dale Ella's coming off the bench o Jalen Rose.
Speaker 1: Jay Row was there. Yeah, he didn't have a cup
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Speaker 1: off today. What's on your mind? Kendall? Sure? Hey, uh,
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say, I got an email from
Speaker 1: the Yeah, from the University of Texas president. My dad
Speaker 1: goes there, just a broad Emailkay, They're planning to start
Speaker 1: school on time in the ball and I know L
Speaker 1: Shoes Campus has opened it up May eight, So hopefully
Speaker 1: that's kind of set the stage of you know, broad
Speaker 1: opening up schools and a big population headed back well soon.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, thanks for the phone call, Kendall. Good
Speaker 1: luck to your daughter. All schools are planning to open up.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have many that have said, hey,
Speaker 1: no fall classes or we're not going to have students
Speaker 1: on campus, and maybe there are and somebody can enlighten
Speaker 1: me on that. But as of now here we are
Speaker 1: early May. I don't think anybody is trying to handicap this. Now.
Speaker 1: Eventually you're going to have to we have to pull question. McLevin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which matchup you want to see week one? It's actually interesting.
Speaker 1: It is the Bucks Chiefs, but there's a close second place,
Speaker 1: the Bucks versus Aaron Rodgers and the Packers. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: like that one too. I just you don't want to
Speaker 1: risk losing those games, and that's what I want to
Speaker 1: see tonight with the schedule release party. Jay Glazer, who
Speaker 1: is good friends with Mike Tomlin, the Steelers head coach,
Speaker 1: had a Q and A with the Athletic yesterday where
Speaker 1: one of the questions was Ben Roethlisberger and the injury
Speaker 1: he suffered. Even if he's eighty five percent back, are
Speaker 1: they going to be in a competitive position? This is
Speaker 1: what Jay Glazer was asked. Glazer then responds by saying,
Speaker 1: first of all, let's not put the words fitness in
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger together. They are allergic to each other. There
Speaker 1: is no fitness. His idea great offseason workout program is
Speaker 1: one yoga session, playing golf and drinking some beer. Hell yeah. However,
Speaker 1: what Mike Tomlin and Ben Roethlisberger have done there have
Speaker 1: done there has been incredible. Tomlin has never had a
Speaker 1: losing season with the Steelers. I want fans of other
Speaker 1: cities to realize that never had a losing season since
Speaker 1: he's been with Pittsburgh, despite the injuries and obviously not
Speaker 1: the same team that they were where they lost Levon Bell,
Speaker 1: Lantonio Brown. I saw some video of Ben throwing the football. Now,
Speaker 1: I never looked at Ben as saying, Wow, that's quite
Speaker 1: a physique. Well, I mean, I've said that, but that
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with him being in shape. Ben
Speaker 1: is never a guy I used to be where he
Speaker 1: was a good athlete coming out of high school. Even
Speaker 1: in college, he was a good athlete. His job is
Speaker 1: to sort of extend plays. I likened him to King
Speaker 1: Kong when he's on top of the Empire State Building,
Speaker 1: he's just swatting planes out of the way. Ben's is big,
Speaker 1: if not bigger than most of the defenders going after him.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's packing on some pounds there because that'll help
Speaker 1: him when he gets into battle. I still would have
Speaker 1: drafted a backup quarterback. I would have drafted a quarterback
Speaker 1: or I would have I'd look at Cam Newton. I
Speaker 1: got to push Ben a little bit here because Ben
Speaker 1: doesn't have much left and what if that arm is
Speaker 1: not where it should be. Then I got Duck Devlin
Speaker 1: and Mason Rudolph and it's already you know, tough sledding
Speaker 1: in that division. The Browns are going to be better,
Speaker 1: the Bengals should be better, and you know the Ravens
Speaker 1: are going to be really good. That's a team that
Speaker 1: should have got Jalen Hurts in my opinion, because just
Speaker 1: like Philadelphia, you have an insurance policy for the way
Speaker 1: your quarterback plays. You can say that Dallas is bringing
Speaker 1: in Andy Dalton to be there Nick Foles, Okay, I
Speaker 1: mean if you want to sell that to Dak, good
Speaker 1: luck with that. Jalen Hurts is coming in because Carson Wentz.
Speaker 1: You've got to protect Carson Wentz from Carson Wentz. But
Speaker 1: the Steelers to me needed Jalen Hurts or a legitimate
Speaker 1: backup quarterback. I thought Andy Dalton made a lot of
Speaker 1: sense there. I really did. Now I don't know, because
Speaker 1: then you could see where Andy Dalton's thirty two what's
Speaker 1: been thirty six, thirty seven. Maybe yeah, Paul, I don't
Speaker 1: think Glazier's being fair at all. To Ben Roethlisberger, Roethisburger
Speaker 1: suffers from two things. He's got big headsodrom and he's
Speaker 1: got husky bodies. Wait wait, he's got big head synder
Speaker 1: broken this down many times. He has a big head syndrome.
Speaker 1: Does he have an eight head? He does have an
Speaker 1: eight head. He also has jowls. Going back to when
Speaker 1: he was in high school, I got pictures of a
Speaker 1: Miyama Ohio and he's a big, thick dude. Then he
Speaker 1: was twenty one years old, big head sin. He also
Speaker 1: has a husky body. A natch of his body type
Speaker 1: does not show definition. It's kind of it has a
Speaker 1: bit of dumpiness to it, but doesn't mean there's not
Speaker 1: muscle tone and underneath that layer some people just don't have.
Speaker 1: It's like, what Seth Rogan loses a bunch of weight.
Speaker 1: You're like, he looks weird? Do they look weird when
Speaker 1: he's you know, thin people are Ben Rothslberger has a
Speaker 1: body type. It does not mean he's not in shape
Speaker 1: because he looks out of shape. There's tons of muscle
Speaker 1: on aneath there possibly big head syndrome. I've got their
Speaker 1: first two albums, yeah, and I saw them on tour. Yes, McLevin,
Speaker 1: there's no way. He's probably lost a second on his
Speaker 1: forty since he came into the NFL. He was tall
Speaker 1: and skinny. Out of my head, he doesn't need to
Speaker 1: run forty. He was fast, fast as all get out
Speaker 1: when he came in there. Well, no, I'm not asked
Speaker 1: him to be that mclovin. I just think given what
Speaker 1: happened this past season, that's where you have to kind
Speaker 1: of rededicate yourself and say, if I'm going to make
Speaker 1: another run at this, let's go back and be all
Speaker 1: in now. PAULI goes it's only may. He can lose
Speaker 1: ten pounds, Ah, he can, but he needs to lose
Speaker 1: more than ten pounds. I just want to know if
Speaker 1: the arm is healthy first of all, and you know,
Speaker 1: is he taking this seriously? And I don't know if
Speaker 1: he is. Cam Newton's jacked. Would you would you take
Speaker 1: him over Ben Roethlisberger right now? No? Yes? Really yes?
Speaker 1: If you said Cam's is Cam healthy? No? I mean
Speaker 1: he is what he is? He is what you know? Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: then that's not fair well, no, they both are what
Speaker 1: they are now. Cam Newton looks like a model of
Speaker 1: a quarterback on a TV show. He's completely shreddy. If
Speaker 1: I'm a Steeler fan and I could get Cam Newton
Speaker 1: at thirty two and he's gonna be healthy, I would
Speaker 1: take Cam Newton. That's hot. Well, because Ben's only going
Speaker 1: to play one more year, I'm guessing, so, hi, I
Speaker 1: mean Ben's how old is he? PAULI? He's thirty eight?
Speaker 1: He just turned thirty eight. Come on, wow, I now, okay,
Speaker 1: let me ask you the question. Now, Cam Newton's healthy
Speaker 1: and Ben is Ben? Who do you want Ben? Because
Speaker 1: I've never thought Cam Newton as a great passer? Is
Speaker 1: he a great quarterback? Three years ago? Okay, four years ago? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well Ben's coming off out, yeah, arm injury. But Ben
Speaker 1: has had seasons multiple where he's been a top three
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback. Yeah, he's a Hall of Famer. I'll give
Speaker 1: you that. I wanted to know the last time the
Speaker 1: Bengals signed a free agent, Boomer and Scienson was a
Speaker 1: free agent, John KITTENA give me somebody recent here. Terall
Speaker 1: Owens was twenty ten, Terrence Newman, James Harrison and Roy
Speaker 1: so they haven't. When's the last meaningful free agent was
Speaker 1: James Harrison in twenty thirteen. Come on, I don't know
Speaker 1: how he was like thirty six or thirty seven at
Speaker 1: the time that was. That doesn't count. I mean the
Speaker 1: Bengals don't get free agents, and you got to factor
Speaker 1: that in with Joe Burrow's development there gonna take him
Speaker 1: a while. Yeah. Also, it's unfair that it's Ben Roethlisberger
Speaker 1: and he got the name Big Ben. His name was Tim.
Speaker 1: He wouldn't have Big in front of Tim. And he's
Speaker 1: got Burger at the end of his name. It's not
Speaker 1: like Ben roethlis is rothlos Keish Rothlis Kale. Yeah, what
Speaker 1: are you think in Seaton roths something or else? Ben Rothless,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, that's still one of the great moments
Speaker 1: in sports center history. Google it, kids. It brings Seaton
Speaker 1: to tears. The best Ben Rothless