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Speaker 1: What is going on.

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Speaker 2: This is Jakehoefer and welcome back to another week of Roughfresh.

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Speaker 2: As we all could guess with this most recent cold

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Speaker 2: front in October, we have three different big Buck stories

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Speaker 2: here on how they got it done and how they

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Speaker 2: were able to capitalize on this most recent cold front.

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Speaker 2: We have folks from Missouri, Kentucky, Iowa, and a update

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Speaker 2: in Illinois. This is some good intel for the next

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Speaker 2: cold front on how they were able to make a

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Speaker 2: process that came together. Looks like temperatures are going to

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Speaker 2: be a little bit more stagnant here for quite some time,

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Speaker 2: or at least a period of time, so time.

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Speaker 1: To get prepared.

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Speaker 2: We're going to kick this off with Hunter Hogan with

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Speaker 2: a Missouri public lan buck that attacked here recently. And

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Speaker 1: To kick things off here, Hunter Hogan in Missouri, here

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Speaker 1: we go, all right.

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Speaker 2: Next up on the line, we have Hunter Hogan who

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Speaker 2: connected with the Missouri Public land Buck. I told you

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Speaker 2: I was going to put you on the spot, so

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Speaker 2: here it is how many public land acres are in

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Speaker 2: the state of Missouri.

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Speaker 3: Oh, good lord, this is just going to be a guess,

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Speaker 3: but I'm gonna guess four hundred thousand.

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Speaker 1: Your way off. You're way off.

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Speaker 2: Three point five million public land acres in the state

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Speaker 2: of Missouri, which has got to be one of the

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Speaker 2: most in the Midwest. And so in twenty twenty four

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Speaker 2: there was two hundred and seventy five deer shot, but

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Speaker 2: only fifty six thousand were shot with the bow. You

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Speaker 2: were for the twenty twenty five stats. You're going to

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Speaker 2: be a public land buck with archery equipment. So congratulations

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Speaker 2: on your recent success.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: So let's let's kind of dive right into it. How

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Speaker 2: does some of this come together? I saw on your

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Speaker 2: most one of your most recent posts. You know you'd

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Speaker 2: hunted a lot of days here. I know you already

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Speaker 2: had success in another state earlier in the season, but

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Speaker 2: your home state of Missouri. What was your game plan

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Speaker 2: to try to connect with the buck? You know, earlier

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Speaker 2: in the year, when most people were banking on November,

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Speaker 2: you'd already made a plan come together.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, early season seems to be kind of my thing

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Speaker 3: so far in the last four or five years since

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Speaker 3: I started like filming and you know, hunting more than usual.

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Speaker 3: So like, I really key in on early season, mainly

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Speaker 3: because I'm hunting public land in all the states. All

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Speaker 3: all of my kills have been public land so far,

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Speaker 3: so it's just like, yes, November is a magical time,

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Speaker 3: but a lot of times there's a lot of people

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Speaker 5: Deer get pushed off the properties.

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Speaker 3: So even though it's way more challenging and difficult to

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Speaker 3: during that time. So yeah, I worked really hard over

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Speaker 3: the summer just scouting a lot of different properties a

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Speaker 3: where I had multiple mature, big bucks that I was

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Speaker 3: what I keyedd on. And it was a tough start

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Speaker 3: just made it a tough start. I feel like it

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Speaker 5: So we we went a long.

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Speaker 3: Time before, or I went a long time before seeing

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Speaker 5: So it was it was pretty tough for the first

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Speaker 3: And I ended up hunting twenty days total, and I

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Speaker 3: of you get you want to fill the tag, you know.

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Speaker 3: So I had a friend come up for the day

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Speaker 3: stand sixty five yards from he was betted, and that

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Speaker 5: So it was pretty fun.

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Speaker 2: So when you set up, did you know he was

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Speaker 2: bet at sixty five yards awake or did you set

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Speaker 5: I knew.

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Speaker 3: I was pretty confident that a mature buck was using

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Speaker 3: he might be because I've had deer I've got in

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Speaker 3: that area before, and I've had deer like twenty yards

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Speaker 3: like the first week of October, because as these bucks

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Speaker 3: start like tinkering with each other. I videoed a lot

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Speaker 3: of bucks fighting. I think I saw probably thirty different

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Speaker 3: bucks throughout the twenty days of hunting, and they started like,

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Speaker 3: you know, playing around, but still buddy buddy. Well once that,

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Speaker 5: Not so buddy buddy anymore.

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Speaker 3: And so I watched a couple five year olds a

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Speaker 3: I don't want to I don't want to play anymore.

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Speaker 3: And So that betting area that I went into, I

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Speaker 3: as those bachelor groups were splitting up and the big

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Speaker 5: So that was kind of my game plan going into

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Speaker 1: And I read that you were like thirty feet high.

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Speaker 2: That is much higher than what most people set their

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Speaker 2: has become more popular. A lot of people still are

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Speaker 2: that's way up there. Why why do you set up

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Speaker 4: Man?

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Speaker 5: I I'll try not to go too deep.

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Speaker 3: On this, but like, I think that the only way

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Speaker 4: So like.

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Speaker 3: I have done it before, but I haven't found much

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Speaker 3: it's like both the deer I've killed this year, one

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Speaker 3: other one was right at forty foot high, And the

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Speaker 3: reason for that was I needed to be that high

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Speaker 3: you have to like pick out spots to even see

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Speaker 3: his body through the weeds. And that was from forty

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Speaker 3: So I just think that like a lot of times

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Speaker 3: they either die doing what they're supposed to do, or

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Speaker 3: they do what they're not supposed to do and they

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Speaker 3: get around the people. So I see that a lot

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Speaker 3: with with multiple different states and public lands and high

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Speaker 3: they're way more visible in the summer and they're way

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Speaker 3: more easy to find before stuff grows up seven eight,

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Speaker 5: And so that's.

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Speaker 3: Why I go scout over the summer so much and

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean I think that obviously it's it's

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Speaker 2: strategy change when we get a hard frost. You know,

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Speaker 2: those really tall seven or eight foot tall weeds start

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Speaker 2: to lay over a little bit, you know, they go

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Speaker 2: from seven or eight foot tall to maybe five foot tall,

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Speaker 2: you know, depending on where you're out of the country

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Speaker 2: and everything else. But does that strategy and betting area,

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Speaker 2: how much does that potentially change just for someone that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, my strategy changes a lot when it comes to

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Speaker 3: like later in the season and hard frosts. And I

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Speaker 3: don't know, I feel like I feel like ninety percent

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Speaker 3: it does just like your activity and stuff.

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Speaker 5: So you know, last week of.

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Speaker 3: October, first week in November, that's what everybody's hunting, Like,

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Speaker 3: everybody's hunting the Midwest at that time. So like in

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Speaker 3: years past, I would actually take a break from whitetail

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Speaker 3: and go mulder hunting, and there's very few people meal

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Speaker 3: deer hunting at that time. Most people go mulder hunting

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Speaker 3: in like September or something, you know. So I don't know,

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Speaker 3: I think there's I think there's ways around it. I

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Speaker 3: think that once that hard frost hits during these next

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Speaker 3: I know that's kind of like a hill country deal,

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Speaker 3: but I hunt a lot of flat country, and even

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Speaker 3: in flat country, like straps are super key, like they

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Speaker 3: in like the most obvious places, or they might be

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Speaker 3: in some weird places. But like, all the bucks are

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Speaker 3: making scrapes, all the bucks are using lifting branches, and

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Speaker 3: just keying in on those is going to be key

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Speaker 3: to like finding a mature buck. And you might not

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Speaker 2: It seems like you're very in tune with the moon.

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Speaker 1: Or I'm not a moon guy, so I'm.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, i'd have to check my calendar. I use the

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Speaker 3: So I think that overhead red moon in in like

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Speaker 4: I like it.

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Speaker 2: So looking here over the next seven days on a

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Speaker 1: Weeks of the year.

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Speaker 5: October can be tough, man.

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Speaker 3: I think if we had an overhead red moon and

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Speaker 5: Going to be fire.

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Speaker 3: I'd have to have a cold front to rank it

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Speaker 1: Okay, I like it.

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Speaker 2: Well, congratulations once again, Hunter, and good luck the rest

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Speaker 2: your hunts here one of your recent huts, and I'm

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Speaker 1: Where do they go watch these?

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Speaker 3: My YouTube is Hunter Hogan Productions, and then I post

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Speaker 5: Of keep up through the season.

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Speaker 3: Not not as like highly produced and it's bow life

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Speaker 3: Hogan right on.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations once again, and thanks for hopping on.

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Speaker 5: Thanks man.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 2: Next up on the line, we have Rob sand who

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Speaker 2: recently tagged a ginormous deer in the state of Iowa

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Speaker 2: on a des Moines.

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Speaker 1: What would be the exact phrase of that hunt opportunity.

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Speaker 6: I'd call it an urban hunt. They've got a they've

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Speaker 6: can you can get into the lottery to get an

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Speaker 1: That's really cool.

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Speaker 2: So I've been kicking these off with the tribute question

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Speaker 6: And so so I'm I'm from Decora, Northeast Iowa, and

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Speaker 7: So I'm gonna I'm gonna go with Appanows.

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Speaker 2: You're close, You're close. It was in Monroe County in

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Speaker 2: two thousand and three. Yeah, and it was shot in

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Speaker 2: seven and five eights inches. That's bonkers, well known as

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Speaker 2: We had a really good cold front. When did you

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Speaker 7: Sure, sure, sure, yeah.

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Speaker 6: So I have been in the Urban bow Hunting program

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Speaker 6: But I just I went from where he lived, where

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Speaker 7: And I just I got on on X.

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Speaker 6: There's actually another one around that doesn't have the two

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Speaker 7: It's just got one. And so I wasn't sure which

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Speaker 6: The other guy's substantially smaller, and so I didn't I

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and so I was I was careful.

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Speaker 6: I was like, all right, you know, I know he's around.

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Speaker 6: And I wasn't sure, so I didn't. I didn't fling

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Speaker 7: The same area.

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Speaker 6: property where I actually ended up shooting him, and the

445
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,480
Speaker 6: other one was in.

446
00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 7: A different one.

447
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 6: But it was the two spots where he was on

448
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 6: camera the most during the day, and one was better

449
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,879
Speaker 6: for a south wind and one was better for a

450
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,160
Speaker 6: north wind. And with all the heat, we've been having

451
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,199
Speaker 6: a lot of south winds, or we had been, and

452
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,359
Speaker 6: then finally when this front came in, I knew that

453
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 6: that first day of it was going to have to

454
00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 6: be my day because the other two days there's I

455
00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,360
Speaker 6: was going to have to be out of town. So

456
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:20,160
Speaker 6: I went out in the morning, didn't see a thing.

457
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 6: It was rainy, went out again for the evening hunt.

458
00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 6: I actually ended up getting down out of my stand

459
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 6: walking the very short, you know, thirty yards back to

460
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,320
Speaker 6: my truck parked in the driveway of the people's who's property.

461
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 6: I was hunting in and sitting in there for a

462
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,520
Speaker 6: while because it was raining so heavy that I was like,

463
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 6: there's no way he's going to be moving. It got

464
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 6: real heavy for a while, so I just sat in

465
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:47,640
Speaker 6: there and warmed up and try to avoid getting totally

466
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:52,959
Speaker 6: drenched yet. And then it lightened up again five thirty

467
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 6: five forty five, so I went back out, got back

468
00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 6: up into my tree, and forty five minutes later I

469
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 6: see a buck behind a tree and pull out my bikox,

470
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:12,760
Speaker 6: tell it's him, get my bow off a hangar, and

471
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 6: at that point is maybe forty yards away, and he

472
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 6: starts coming towards me.

473
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:27,600
Speaker 7: And I actually I had to move at one point,

474
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 7: and it had.

475
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 6: Been so wet that I slipped off of my climbing stick.

476
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:33,520
Speaker 1: Jeez.

477
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 7: And I started saddle hunting probably three years ago.

478
00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 6: I should see two. Like I said, I've been hunting

479
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,240
Speaker 6: for a long time. I actually the last time I

480
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 6: took a buck it was November of twenty twenty two,

481
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,119
Speaker 6: and I've passed on decent ones in twenty three and

482
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 6: twenty four because I decided to get serious about my

483
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 6: goal of shooting a booner. I've shot like, I think

484
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 6: eight pop and young bucks, but never anything over one seventy. Actually,

485
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 6: i've shot four between like one fifty, so they're all

486
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:03,880
Speaker 6: packed right in there. Yeah, And I was like, okay,

487
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 6: I gotta quit doing that. And so I slipped off

488
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,399
Speaker 6: my climbing stick and my saddle catches me. It was

489
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 6: real tight, but I kind of swung around the tree.

490
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 6: Didn't make any noise or much the rain covered or

491
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 6: whatever noise there was, and I was able to get

492
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:28,000
Speaker 6: back onto it steady myself. And then he stepped up

493
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 6: from behind that tree h twenty five yards and that

494
00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 6: was it, quartering away, so just perfect.

495
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 2: Do you think that the slip was buck fever induced

496
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 2: in conjunction of.

497
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 1: I love the wetness.

498
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 6: I will tell you this, I typically don't feel it

499
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:51,439
Speaker 6: at all. The first that that two minutes into hunting

500
00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 6: light time when I saw him, and the time that

501
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 6: I saw him getting out of my stand, heart's beating

502
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,679
Speaker 6: out of my chest. I mean, I typically am just

503
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,200
Speaker 6: was a cucumber. This guy I kind of freaked out.

504
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 6: So it absolutely could have been. The other thing was

505
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 6: I had I kind of soaked through my regular warmer

506
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 6: weather hunting boots in the morning, and so it was

507
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 6: the first time this season wearing my like bigger, thicker

508
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 6: winter boots, and so maybe it was a combination of

509
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,719
Speaker 6: wet buck fever and then a boot I hadn't been

510
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 6: hunting in.

511
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.

512
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 2: What what what do you think had that beer hanging

513
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 2: out there? Was there a you know, a bunch of

514
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 2: acorns dropping in that little area or what was he

515
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 2: was in there?

516
00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,959
Speaker 6: Okay, tons of olks in there, And then it was

517
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 6: just it was an area that had, for being in

518
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 6: the middle of town, a really big chunk of timber

519
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,880
Speaker 6: that didn't really have a road running through it. That's

520
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 6: I mean, there's there's I know there was other folks

521
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 6: who had been hunting in the area, whether In fact,

522
00:26:56,040 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 6: I know there were two on private property because on

523
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,040
Speaker 6: my list of people to call or a couple of homeowners,

524
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,920
Speaker 6: and I'd call him up and say, Hey, can I

525
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 6: hunt in your property? And they'd say yes, and I'd

526
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 6: say great, I'll come set up a stand and they'd

527
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 6: say you don't need to. There's already one there because

528
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 6: there's other people that hunt there. So I'd back off.

529
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 6: That to me is like, you know, if somebody else

530
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 6: already called, like that's their spot, I'm not going to

531
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 6: make them trade off and on with me for who

532
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,640
Speaker 6: wants to sit on a Saturday morning or something like that. Yeah,

533
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:29,399
Speaker 6: but so people knew know he's around. I was just

534
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 6: in an area where a lot of oak trees, but

535
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 6: there's a ton of oaks in that neighborhood. I would

536
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 6: probably credit that for him how he got so big anyways,

537
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,760
Speaker 6: And then it's just kind of like a little sanctuary

538
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,919
Speaker 6: area that was probably from his perspective, big enough to

539
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 6: be a real tight home turf without having to travel

540
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 6: much or do much. But truth is, I mean, I

541
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 6: know he had a decent range because I had some

542
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 6: pictures of him spread out around a big area before

543
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 6: I finally narrowed in on a place where I knew

544
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 6: he was going.

545
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 7: Regularly, and I can't tell you it was his home turf.

546
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 6: I can just tell you that he was there often

547
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 6: enough that I felt pretty good and didn't think I

548
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 6: had any other options because the park. I know, there's

549
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 6: a big park nearby, and I didn't have access or

550
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 6: permission to be hunting there, and I think some other

551
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 6: guys were hunting there. And then there was a third

552
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 6: guy who said he had people on his property too.

553
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 5: So.

554
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 7: It was just a question who had him with a

555
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 7: good opportunity.

556
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: First, when you had gone around and asked, you know,

557
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 2: twenty some people for permission, did any of them say like, oh,

558
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 2: do you know of that giant deer we've been seeing

559
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 2: in the backyard or was that a common occurrence?

560
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 7: Yes, people knew this, dear A few of them.

561
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 6: A few of them would share pictures and even if

562
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,120
Speaker 6: they didn't give me permission to hunt it, they'd say, oh, yeah,

563
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 6: here he is.

564
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 7: He's out there. You can't hunt here, but you know,

565
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 7: good luck.

566
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: Yeah.

567
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 2: Well, I mean another data point as you're going through

568
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: and you know, you know of the payment to get

569
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: an opportunity.

570
00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 4: Then there was.

571
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,600
Speaker 6: Another time where I went up to this property that

572
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 6: I really had to is sort of like, oh, I

573
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 6: think this is going to be great. And as I'm

574
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 6: going down the driveway, I look to my left and

575
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 6: into the timber and there's his little brother.

576
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 7: There's the bachelor group.

577
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 6: The one with the one the one drop time coming off,

578
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 6: and then and then one younger one and they're bedded

579
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,479
Speaker 6: down in there. And so I'm like, bingo score. But

580
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 6: the homeowner was out of town. I had to try

581
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 6: to come back a week later. I ended up getting

582
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 6: permission from her, but it wasn't I hunted at her

583
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 6: property and had a few pictures of him there, but.

584
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 7: That wasn't the spot. But yeah, it was. I mean,

585
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 7: it was interesting.

586
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 6: It's just a lot of it's it's and I should

587
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 6: say too for people who haven't done the urban hunt,

588
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 6: deer are exactly the same urban as they are country.

589
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 6: If they're accustomed to a person in a particular place.

590
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 7: It doesn't bother them.

591
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 6: And so you'll have deer that you know, they know

592
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 6: they're going to see you in your driveway walking to

593
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 6: and from your car.

594
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 7: But if they if they figure.

595
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 6: Out that you're up in a tree, they're going to

596
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 6: freak out, just the same as they would out in

597
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 6: the woods. It's all about what's familiar and what they've

598
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 6: come to accept as being sort of like safe and reliable.

599
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 6: And in the urban program, you have to hunt from

600
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 6: an elevated pitch and a tree because the city wants

601
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,239
Speaker 6: if you're if you miss, they want your arrow going

602
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 6: into the ground.

603
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 7: And so it's not that different.

604
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 6: You still got to be you still got to play

605
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 6: the wind, you still got to be careful with your

606
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 6: scent because you're you're up there and hoping that they're

607
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 6: going to just not notice you. If they do notice you,

608
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 6: you're busted, just the same as you would be anywhere else.

609
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I think that's I've never urban hunted,

610
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: but there's always a lot of common threads on different

611
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 2: people's perspectives, and I think a lot of times people

612
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: that hadn't actually hunted in an urban setting, but still

613
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:50,400
Speaker 2: a really exciting game of cat and mouse on very small,

614
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: very very small parcels, which is a huge challenge.

615
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, And the best thing to do especially is with

616
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 6: this is was really for me trying to find if

617
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 6: you can two contiguous properties where you can get permission

618
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 6: from both because because of the regulations on you got

619
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 6: to be so far away from buildings and stuff like

620
00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 6: that sometimes you'd have to One of the spots that

621
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 6: I had was one where I felt really good about

622
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 6: it because I'd had them on camera. But it was

623
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 6: two folks next to each other, both of whom had

624
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 6: given me permission, And that just gives you a bigger range,

625
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 6: a bigger circle.

626
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.

627
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 2: So looking here in the next week, So let's say

628
00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: October fifteenth to the twenty second, for anyone that's out

629
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,840
Speaker 2: there hunting or planning to scout, is there any parting

630
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 2: words of advice now that you already.

631
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: Have one down, and.

632
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 2: You know, what would you tell someone that's sitting with

633
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: the tag in their pocket to focus on for the

634
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: next week?

635
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, you know, I guess I. Here's here.

636
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 6: This is what was really interesting about this to me.

637
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 6: I typically have not been big into scouting. I kind

638
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 6: of hit the rut and I sit a lot and

639
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 6: sort of see who shows up, and I might set

640
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 6: up a few cameras to sort of see who's out there.

641
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 6: You know, this is the first time I really went

642
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 6: early season, and normally I don't want to do early

643
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 6: season because I don't want the bugs, and I hate

644
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 6: the heat, and I just I got a couple of

645
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 6: thin pieces of insect treated camo and that was great.

646
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 6: And you know what else is great about it. You

647
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 6: don't have a ton of leaves down but are spoiling

648
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 6: every single step with crunching as you walk around, and

649
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 6: you don't have to you don't have to bundle up.

650
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 6: So I mean, I guess i'd say, if you're if

651
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 6: you haven't tried early season before, give it a shot,

652
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 6: because this is the first time I did it, and

653
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,440
Speaker 6: you can really have a chance to pattern a big

654
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 6: buck before they start going crazy with the rut. I

655
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,960
Speaker 6: guess i'd say over the next week. I mean, it

656
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 6: looks to me like temperatures are going to be pretty consistent.

657
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 6: I'd just say, you know, you can't shoot them from

658
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 6: the couch. I don't think there's any particular day that's

659
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 6: looking better than any other. But as long as you're

660
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 6: out there, you're going to have a chance.

661
00:32:58,840 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: I like it.

662
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 2: Well, thank you so much, Rob. Congratulations once again, you've

663
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: achieved your goal and then some and got into two

664
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 2: hundred inch club. So I mean, you went from straight

665
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 2: over one seventy to straight home from two hundred so congratulations.

666
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 7: Yeah, and it warred me out.

667
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 6: I mean, this, this cold I've got here is I

668
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 6: was exercising less and sleeping less for two weeks going

669
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 6: after this guy. But I would say I'll recover from

670
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 6: this and this will last for sure.

671
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: We'll congratulations once again.

672
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 7: Yeah, thank you.

673
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 4: All right.

674
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 2: We have Josh Prophet down in Kentucky. Good morning, Josh.

675
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,760
Speaker 2: How does it feel to you have a buck tag

676
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: field already?

677
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 4: I never killed one this earlier. Honestly, I'm not sure

678
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 4: that I'll like it.

679
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: I get it.

680
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:47,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, the season feels early, but but you ended up

681
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 2: connecting with the buck Let's let's hear all about it.

682
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: What made it happen this early? And compared to years previously?

683
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 4: So I'm I don't know the exact day. I'd have

684
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 4: to really sit down, but I'm like two decades twenty

685
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 4: years in on like public land hunting. And when I

686
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:10,880
Speaker 4: opened the shop last year, I mean it just opened

687
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 4: doors for me. And between now and then, man, I've

688
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 4: landed somewhere around two thousand acres of private ground. One

689
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 4: of them is a is A is a good sized

690
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 4: farm for me. It's it's a thousand acres continuous at

691
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 4: least my first farm ever this year, and between all that,

692
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,839
Speaker 4: I told myself, I just wasn't hun public this year

693
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 4: is gonna be private only?

694
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:41,800
Speaker 1: Yeah? So was that? Was that an awkward transition?

695
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 2: Like when like your DNA has been hunting public for

696
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 2: so long and then you know, you get the opportunity

697
00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 2: to hunt some some private and you know, do some

698
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,640
Speaker 2: things that you can't do on public.

699
00:34:50,680 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: Quite ultimately, the.

700
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 4: I put out some mineral that wasn't no big deal,

701
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 4: but the weirdest thing for me, and I'm I'm not

702
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 4: saying I'm I did it, but I'm not really for it.

703
00:35:02,000 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 4: I did put out some corn just because it was

704
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 4: legal here after August first. It's it's so different, man.

705
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 4: You know, I've drove my struck everywhere I could drive it.

706
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 4: You know, there were times in my life where I

707
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 4: was walking like a thousand miles from like year to year,

708
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 4: and I don't even it's sad, I don't. I don't

709
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 4: know how far I'll be walking, but it won't be

710
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:32,439
Speaker 4: near as much.

711
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 2: So you end up getting some private And then so

712
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,360
Speaker 2: tell us a little bit about the plan, because I

713
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 2: feel like anytime someone typically connects this early in the season,

714
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: they had put a good offseason plan together or at

715
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 2: least had recent intel to make a play.

716
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of and I feel like.

717
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 2: That's a disconnect with a lot of people this time

718
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 2: of year, where someone sees success from someone else where,

719
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: it's like, well, you didn't see what they did in

720
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: the summer to potentially have the success. You know, this

721
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: early in the season, So dial it back to the

722
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 2: summer kind of when did you find this deer? And

723
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 2: then what was the strategy to for it all to

724
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 2: come excuse me, for all of it to come together.

725
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 4: So it's a we'll go back about We'll go back

726
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 4: a year or at least until last last winner. So

727
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,600
Speaker 4: this farm that I have, an outfitter has had this

728
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 4: farm leased for roughly twenty years. During the twenty years

729
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 4: they have switched hands and I'd say the last ten

730
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:37,560
Speaker 4: or twelve years there they're primarily a wing shooting outfitter.

731
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 4: Pezant's quel Doners do from what I'm told, they do

732
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 4: deer hunt, but they live in Florida. They got a

733
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 4: ranch in Colorado. So I'm just trying to paint the

734
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 4: picture for you here that basically that whole roughly twenty

735
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 4: five hundred to three thousand acres there. In my eyes,

736
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 4: it's almost like a deer sanctuary. There's people all over it.

737
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 4: They have eighteen hundreds a day, guides, a lot of shooting,

738
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 4: just you know, just a good camaraderie sport. But I think,

739
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 4: you know, over the years, the deer they just they

740
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,799
Speaker 4: figured it out. You know, they don't really get messed with.

741
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 4: They just got to deal with the people. And between

742
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 4: last August in last January in these fields, and I

743
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 4: got to have one of them. Least, I've seen four

744
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 4: bone and crockett deer. And yeah, just from the road

745
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 4: in like January, Man, there would be so many deer

746
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 4: out there, I would I'd lose camp like over one

747
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 4: hundred you know, probably ten bucks that I would shoot.

748
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 4: Maybe not somebody else. But and I got the guy

749
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 4: in the chair in the barber chair, and he's an

750
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 4: older gentleman, lives in Kansas, and I just asked him

751
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 4: about and he told me that they had the property least,

752
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:05,839
Speaker 4: but he said the downfall is my my cousin farms it,

753
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 4: and man, they just destroy the crops, you know. And

754
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 4: he's like, they're snot shooting, No, deer and they just

755
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 4: keep people off. And I was like, I'll shoot the deer.

756
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 4: And a year or fast forward to this spring, he

757
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 4: come in town and was like, hey, you know it's yours.

758
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 4: I'm gonna let you have it. He said, just under

759
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 4: one uh, you know, under one term, like you've got

760
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 4: to promise me number one you'll shoot some dose and

761
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 4: number two you'll give me some deer Meat's the old

762
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 4: school stuff you don't ever hear about.

763
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I was.

764
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 4: I was all for it. Man. There's a I got

765
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 4: one other guy on there that's a client. He technically

766
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,239
Speaker 4: lives on the property. He rantled on the property. And

767
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 4: that was another stipulation that the owner said, you know,

768
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 4: you can do what you want with it, but it

769
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 4: would make me happy and everybody happy if if Michael

770
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,080
Speaker 4: could get in on the leash just because he lives there.

771
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,879
Speaker 4: And I let him in and that secured the least

772
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 4: for five years for me. So and it was just

773
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 4: a no brainer.

774
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, that's cool.

775
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 4: And so.

776
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: You know, this sounded like a golden opportunity. And now

777
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,439
Speaker 2: it's like completely switching gears to have a farm locked

778
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 2: up for that long. But you know, this cold, this

779
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 2: most recent cold fronts when you connected with him, and

780
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 2: did you use a stick bow?

781
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I killed him with a long bow.

782
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 2: Okay, so you're stick bow hunting with a long you know,

783
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 2: traditional archery. Cold front early October. What was your game

784
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 2: plan going into the hunt?

785
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 4: You know it was. It was really weird because I

786
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 4: couldn't get on the lease until October first, because their

787
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 4: contract with the outfitter didn't run out to the last

788
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:03,880
Speaker 4: day of September. But I called this piece of property

789
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 4: the homestead, like if you ever look at it, and

790
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 4: it's it's actually the house that my least partner lives in,

791
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 4: and it's tuck back in off the road. And he

792
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 4: was like, man, you should just put some cameras in

793
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 4: my yard, he said, because I see these deer and

794
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 4: they found like one hundred and sixty five inch side

795
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 4: sheds in his yard last year. And so I did,

796
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 4: and I've had my two biggest deer all season in

797
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 4: his yard. The lease is in corn and so October first,

798
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,440
Speaker 4: which was I think two wednesdays ago, I took off

799
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 4: and took a handful of cameras out. I already you know,

800
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 4: had some pins dropped and I'm used to you know,

801
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 4: five ten thousand acres and this was two hundred and

802
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,880
Speaker 4: fifty acres. Like I, I picked it. I picked the

803
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 4: areas I want. I picked over pretty good, and it

804
00:40:56,360 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 4: it didn't take long. I mean, the first night I

805
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,839
Speaker 4: put my cameras out, I had the deer I would kill.

806
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 4: And everybody knows my standards have never been too awful.

807
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: High, not wrong with that.

808
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 4: So I had, you know, probably six deer that I

809
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 4: would shoot, and two of them are really good deer,

810
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 4: one of them being fully mature, you know, five plus

811
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 4: probably one hundred and sixty inch deer. But farm lace horrible.

812
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 4: You know, it's primarily an evening spot. I mainly I

813
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 4: got two hundred and fifty acres, but I only got

814
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:38,359
Speaker 4: seventy acres of woods that type of scenario. But man,

815
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 4: I just I was getting pictures of bucks. It was

816
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 4: very it was just very obvious to me what they

817
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 4: were doing. I knew about where they were betting. You know,

818
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:53,400
Speaker 4: I'm I'm real huge on pinpointing exact betting down. I

819
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,719
Speaker 4: think it's a lot harder to do than what people say.

820
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 4: But I know a general idea where they were betting,

821
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 4: and I definitely knew they were you know, they were

822
00:42:01,040 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 4: going to head down to that corn and then they

823
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 4: just shelled the corn about four days started shelling it

824
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 4: about four days before the code front. Mm hm yes.

825
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 4: And I had a little field. It was previously planted

826
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 4: in a food plot and they just they bushedogged it

827
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 4: last year and' pray two or three acres and just

828
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:31,839
Speaker 4: let you know, just littered with scrapes, tattooed with scrapes,

829
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 4: you know, just all kinds of bucks on on it

830
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 4: and lots of white oaks. And I literally just put

831
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 4: a camera on a scrape and I could tell, you know,

832
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 4: just by looking at my phone, you know, the deer

833
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 4: were going to come down the ridge and walk down

834
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,480
Speaker 4: the edge of the field and hit this drainage and

835
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 4: go out to the agfield. And then when I put

836
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 4: that camera there, it's just it lit up NonStop from

837
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 4: morning talk all night. And I just needed a code front, man,

838
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 4: just needed a north.

839
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 2: Wind, north wind in a cold front. So you get

840
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 2: the north wind in the cold front. Did you already

841
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: have that set already hung or was it you know

842
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 2: you had to already pinned a tree? What was that

843
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 2: process like going into to make the move?

844
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 4: Man? I drove my truck back there, and you know,

845
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 4: it's something that I've never really done, but it's common

846
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 4: sense that if you can drive somewhere, it's I would

847
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 4: rather drive past the deer than walk past the deer. Yeah,

848
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 4: I just drove back to the field man and kind

849
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 4: of walked it, and I picked out a couple of

850
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 4: different trees. You could you can only hunt it on

851
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 4: a north wind, just the way it laid. And I

852
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 4: picked out a perfect black walnut tree right on the

853
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 4: edge of the field man, and it was literally right

854
00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 4: there where I knew that they would funnel down through

855
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:59,680
Speaker 4: and the colde front end. I accessed it from about

856
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 4: nine hundred yards and come in the backside and did

857
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 4: a hanging hunt, and man, they just they piled in

858
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 4: there on me. I don't know if you've seen the story,

859
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 4: but it was I did look crazy. I think I

860
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 4: seen six poping youngs from one thirty to probably one sixty.

861
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 4: I've seen the biggest year I had on camera, and everybody,

862
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 4: you know, I'm sure everybody's like, man, I can't believe

863
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:29,439
Speaker 4: you didn't wait wait for that. But when you got

864
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 4: a one hundred and thirty five hundred and forty inch

865
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 4: deer in front of you with it with a stick bow,

866
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 4: it's kind of hard to you know, let him walk.

867
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: So how far was the shot?

868
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 4: I ended up killing him at thirty? They come out

869
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,799
Speaker 4: so early, man, that dear come out like an hour

870
00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 4: and a half before dark. And you know, they slowly

871
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,920
Speaker 4: started making their way and I'd say it was around

872
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 4: six o'clock. He made it almost right to the base

873
00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 4: of the tree. He was in yards from me, and

874
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 4: I had a dough. She wasn't blown at me, she

875
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 4: was blowing something a couple hundred yards down towards the field,

876
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 4: you know, and just had all the deer on hyler.

877
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,440
Speaker 4: And all I needed him to do was turn broadside.

878
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,759
Speaker 4: And he he turned and kind of went to take

879
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 4: a couple of steps, not to leave, just to kind

880
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 4: of meal around. And he was so close to me

881
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 4: that he he could hear he heard me draw my

882
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 4: bow back mm hm, and so he like kind of,

883
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,720
Speaker 4: you know, kind of tucked his rear end and trotted

884
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,840
Speaker 4: off twenty yards and stopped and looked, looked around and

885
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 4: start feeding.

886
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 1: You were what were they feeding?

887
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 4: It? Just grass, just like a grass field with clover

888
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 4: and weeds in it.

889
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 2: Okay, so you know, and they were there were so

890
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:56,879
Speaker 2: just so people can get a picture in their mind,

891
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 2: they came out of the betting I were assuming they

892
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 2: were betted in the tim based off kind of what okay,

893
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 2: so better than the timber transitioned into you know, like

894
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: a general millionairea where there's some clover, some different weezer

895
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 2: munching on. And then your anticipation was that we're going

896
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 2: to head to the big ag field after that or

897
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:14,960
Speaker 2: is that not not quite accurate?

898
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,320
Speaker 4: No, that's exactly accurate. And the way that the ridge

899
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 4: laid with the field on top and the drainage, I

900
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 4: typically always have good luck with deer kind of following

901
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 4: that drainage, you know, And I just just guess, you know,

902
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 4: I just figured that's the direction they would go other

903
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 4: than other ways around the ridge. It just worked perfect.

904
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 4: That's the every deer that was in the field was

905
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 4: coming by me, like in the fifteen yards, and it's

906
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 4: it's a pretty it was a pretty good sized field,

907
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 4: you know, two or three acres. But when that deer spooked,

908
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 4: he didn't, I mean it didn't really spook him. I

909
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:04,919
Speaker 4: guess it's artolding. And then eventually more and more deer

910
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:08,880
Speaker 4: kept feeding past, and it's like he knew, you know,

911
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 4: not to come right to the base of the tree,

912
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 4: so he he kind of come by right. I guess

913
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 4: that's just right around thirty yards, not in any hurry,

914
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 4: and I just smoked him, man, hitting back the lungs,

915
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 4: and he'd done some car wheels in the field and

916
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,919
Speaker 4: died right from.

917
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 2: Man, that's cool, man, congratulations. I think real quick too.

918
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 2: You mentioned you could only hunt on a north wind.

919
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 2: Quickly paint that picture for people who might want to

920
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,400
Speaker 2: understand what that looks like. So when they're trying to

921
00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 2: identify a similar spot, you know, for this next cold

922
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: front to where your scent.

923
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,000
Speaker 1: Was blown, where he had low odds of getting busted.

924
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 4: So my only access is through the ackfield. And you know,

925
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 4: deer there opposite than us. There there are our afternoons

926
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 4: or there mornings, and our mornings are there afternoons. And

927
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 4: it was very obvious, you know, the deer are not

928
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 4: going to bed in the field. There may be a

929
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 4: couple of ditches that they could probably hide in, but

930
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 4: they were just going to be back up in the timber.

931
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 4: And there it's big timber, probably three to four thousand

932
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 4: acres there, but I only got like a seventy acre

933
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 4: parcel of it, and there's a probably a twenty acre

934
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 4: lake on the northeast side. And so the side that

935
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,600
Speaker 4: I was setting on on the ridge, I had the

936
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 4: lake to my right that which created a natural funnel,

937
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,360
Speaker 4: but a big funnel. I'm talking from me to the

938
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 4: lake was four hundred yards, but it was still a funnel. Yeah,

939
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 4: But in between me and the lake was a drainage.

940
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 4: So all the deer, you know, it was obvious. They

941
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 4: all come down to tea in the evening and they're

942
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 4: there all night, and then they head back up into

943
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 4: the hills to bed. And I didn't I didn't want

944
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 4: to be real far back up in the heels. I

945
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 4: just don't want to speak, no, dear. I had a couple

946
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 4: of general ideas where I thought they would be bedding,

947
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 4: and I feel like I'm pretty close. I'm not saying

948
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 4: they were bedding right there under that tree, but you know,

949
00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 4: back there on that twenty acres or so, some of

950
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 4: the bucks would be bedded, and I just set up

951
00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 4: accordingly off of it.

952
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 2: So looking into the future here pretending you didn't shoot

953
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 2: this buck, So like looking in the future here. October

954
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:34,160
Speaker 2: fifteenth to call out October twenty second, it looks like

955
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,800
Speaker 2: temperatures are going to be pretty stable, at least here

956
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 2: in Illinois where I'm looking for someone that is going

957
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,040
Speaker 2: to potentially get some time to go hunt. The following

958
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,000
Speaker 2: weekend here looks like it's going to be not the

959
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 2: best hunting conditions. What would you tell someone to key

960
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 2: in on and pay attention to if they have the

961
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 2: weekend they want to go hunting, What either food source

962
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: or train future should they key in on.

963
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 4: In your opinion, I've always, always and still I would

964
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 4: rather go down and swinging on it ear than than

965
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 4: you know, than to just sat there to strike out.

966
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 4: But I really feel like, no matter where you're hunting

967
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 4: on private or public land, man, it's all about the

968
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 4: weather fronts, especially this time of year. You know. I

969
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 4: see guys out there. I don't know if they're trying

970
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 4: to prove a point or nothing against them, but they're

971
00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:35,759
Speaker 4: just pound in it like right now. But if I

972
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,920
Speaker 4: was somebody, I would definitely be waiting for like a

973
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 4: fifteen to twenty degrees cooler temperatures, some kind of front,

974
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 4: and if you're hunting in the morning, I would be

975
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:53,040
Speaker 4: somewhere close to that you think they're bedding, and in

976
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:55,720
Speaker 4: the evening, I would probably be in the same general

977
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:57,839
Speaker 4: area because I don't really think they're going to get

978
00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:01,720
Speaker 4: up and you know, will before were you know, dark

979
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 4: and bling around.

980
00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,319
Speaker 2: If someone said, okay, yep, I don't I don't want

981
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 2: to necessarily burn some hunts on this, but I'm going

982
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:10,040
Speaker 2: to have some free time.

983
00:51:11,200 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: I want a speed scalt.

984
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,840
Speaker 2: What what would you say for the fifteenth or the

985
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 2: twenty second, what do they need to specifically be looking

986
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 2: for to prepare for the next cold front.

987
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 4: I would I'll always start at the food sources, just

988
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 4: because it's the easiest thing to find, you, you know,

989
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 4: and a deer, I think there's over six hundred things

990
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 4: in their digest. They can really eat anything. But if

991
00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:36,479
Speaker 4: there's a shield cornfield down there, more than likely that's

992
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 4: going to be their destination, or rather it's a food

993
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 4: plot or a bait pile. I would think that, you know,

994
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 4: that's going to be what you won't want to focus

995
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 4: in on. And I'm not saying I wouldn't hunt the morning,

996
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 4: but right now it really is more of an evening game,

997
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 4: and you know, the closer that we get to the rut.

998
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 4: The way that I've always you know, could tell when

999
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:06,719
Speaker 4: things were starting to shift is like all my my

1000
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 4: bigger buck pictures, my more mature deer, like three years

1001
00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 4: old and up. Most of them, if they're in the daylight,

1002
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,799
Speaker 4: they're in the evening right now. And I feel like

1003
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 4: that's probably how most people are. I'm not saying that

1004
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 4: they don't get morning pictures, but when you kind of

1005
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,759
Speaker 4: see that kind of level out or change, you know,

1006
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 4: where you start getting just as many morning pictures as

1007
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,239
Speaker 4: you do evening, or you start to get a little

1008
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:37,240
Speaker 4: bit more. It's probably definitely getting to be a little

1009
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 4: better time to start hunting. But I would definitely get

1010
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 4: out there and scout, start at the food sources. I

1011
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 4: probably wouldn't penetrate too deep, depend on where I was

1012
00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:52,759
Speaker 4: at versus private or public. But I mean, we got

1013
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 4: such a we got pretty much the whole month of

1014
00:52:55,560 --> 00:53:00,799
Speaker 4: October November, which is you know, the apex of deer hunting, December,

1015
00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 4: and a little bit of January.

1016
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 1: It's a marathon. It's a marathon.

1017
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,280
Speaker 7: I mean, it really never ends.

1018
00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 4: But I was just trying to hang out around the

1019
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 4: food and you know, and if you're if you were

1020
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:16,319
Speaker 4: really good. If you had a lot of confidence, you know,

1021
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 4: you might want to try I poke around some betting.

1022
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 4: I just the older I get, and you know, like

1023
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 4: on this on this private man, I just I don't

1024
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 4: want to on the public if I bump the deer,

1025
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,880
Speaker 4: I could move on to the next one, or I

1026
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 4: could fall, or I could follow him around. I've always

1027
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 4: done that, but now you know, like my back portal

1028
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 4: where one hundred percent of my deer betting is seventy acres,

1029
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:41,600
Speaker 4: I don't want to put I don't want to push

1030
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 4: them off where they spend half of you know, all

1031
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:45,279
Speaker 4: their daytime activity.

1032
00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, well no that I think that's great advice for

1033
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 2: anyone here that's trying to develop a game plan. Congratulations

1034
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 2: once again. Are you running a big buck fade at

1035
00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 2: the barber shop or if people need a big buck

1036
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 2: fade where they get a haircut, they shoot a where

1037
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 2: do they go?

1038
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, come in here, We'll put BBD in the cyr.

1039
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:07,920
Speaker 4: I'll try do that for free.

1040
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 2: First person to get a big buck down fade gets

1041
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 2: a free haircut where what is your barbershop's name? So

1042
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 2: is case someone's there and they want to get a

1043
00:54:16,239 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 2: big buck haircut.

1044
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,040
Speaker 4: It's a Seabury barber shop. It's a Western Kentucky It's

1045
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 4: actually in Seabury, Kentucky. And I will have part of

1046
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 4: this barber shop by next season. I will have it

1047
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 4: ready for like an Airbnb slash hunting camp style. I

1048
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:38,719
Speaker 4: got a totally separate room on the other side that

1049
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 4: has its own entrance, and I do have a shower

1050
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 4: and a toilet in here, so it'll be fully ready

1051
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 4: for all the deer hunters. Love it.

1052
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: Congratulations again, Josh, Thank you sir.

1053
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 2: All right, Next up on the line, we have Chris

1054
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:59,120
Speaker 2: Jones from Illinois, and I told you I was gonna

1055
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 2: put you on the spot. What year do you think

1056
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 2: the most amount of bucks or excuse me, the most

1057
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 2: amount of deer were tagged in the state of Illinois.

1058
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:10,759
Speaker 1: What year? And I can give you a hand if

1059
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:11,239
Speaker 1: you need one.

1060
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:16,239
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, it's got to be in the two thousands.

1061
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: You're you're head in the right direction.

1062
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:22,279
Speaker 2: Yes, uh, two thousand, I'm going out on a limb here.

1063
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 2: Two thousand and three, that's a good guess. It was

1064
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,360
Speaker 2: actually two thousand and seven. There was one hundred and

1065
00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:31,279
Speaker 2: ninety nine thousand, seven hundred and five deer shot in

1066
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,359
Speaker 2: the state of Illinois that year, and then twenty twenty

1067
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 2: four it was one hundred and fifty five thousand for reference,

1068
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 2: So f fun little fact for everyone out there. How's

1069
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 2: the deer wood's been here in the last week. We're

1070
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 2: kind of on the back end of that first cold front.

1071
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 2: Everyone was, you know, greatly excited about how has the

1072
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 2: movement been for you? Yeah, it's definitely picked up the

1073
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 2: last two days there. They hit greens yesterday and how

1074
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,320
Speaker 2: did one of the shooters come in at like ten thirty,

1075
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 2: which was kind of you know that deer doesn't normally

1076
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 2: daylight until late season or the rut, but we're guessing

1077
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 2: he's like eight and he hasn't. He showed up twice

1078
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:15,359
Speaker 2: the night before moved in, and then yesterday I'm like, man,

1079
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:18,239
Speaker 2: I think that he's just bedded too close and I

1080
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,440
Speaker 2: didn't feel like risking it, so I didn't go in there.

1081
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,439
Speaker 2: I went to another farm just to make an observation set.

1082
00:56:22,440 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 2: But deer definitely starting to move there. On acorns, we're

1083
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:28,319
Speaker 2: starting to get a lot more scrape activity. I think

1084
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 2: we've got like ten or twelve cell cameras we're gonna

1085
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 2: put out this weekend. Now that the crops are coming out,

1086
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:35,800
Speaker 2: we can get the e bikes and canm around to

1087
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 2: find some more scrapes. But definitely better than it had been,

1088
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:45,839
Speaker 2: but not great. It's still early October. Had we not

1089
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 2: got that cold front, it'd be the same old October lowl.

1090
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,879
Speaker 2: You know, we're not seeing nothing, you know, But yeah,

1091
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 2: that's I feel like it's always a balance of having

1092
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 2: realistic expectations when we get an early cold front.

1093
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 1: Like if you're if you're in the fringe of the game, it.

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Speaker 2: Could be really good, but if you still kind of

1095
00:57:02,880 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 2: feel you're waiting on deer to shift around, it might

1096
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 2: not feel as amazing as is maybe what it should

1097
00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 2: feel like.

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00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: Or if you go on Instagram and see people killing deer,

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00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:11,280
Speaker 1: you're like, oh.

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00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 2: Man, it didn't happen for me on this front. What

1101
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 2: have you been seeing? As far as you're you're in

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00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 2: farm country in Illinois, are what percentage if you had

1103
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 2: a guess of corn and beans that are out? I mean,

1104
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,919
Speaker 2: I know everyone's working really hard to get beans out.

1105
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,720
Speaker 2: What would you say as terms of the amount of

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00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,480
Speaker 2: crops out right now, I'd say we're probably forty percent

1107
00:57:34,480 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 2: of our corn crop out and eighty percent beans. That's

1108
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 2: actually seem As we get off of this, I'm gonna

1109
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 2: jump back in the combine. Think we've got about fourteen

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00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,360
Speaker 2: hundred acres of beans left, so we should finish up

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00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:50,000
Speaker 2: next three or four days, fingers crossed. A lot of

1112
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 2: crop is coming out. You know, we when right before

1113
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 2: this cold front we got a little shot of.

1114
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 1: Rain and.

1115
00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,640
Speaker 2: I don't know half inch of it. Maybe that afternoon

1116
00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:02,160
Speaker 2: we were back to cutting beans. You know, that's how

1117
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 2: dry it is. So a lot of it's coming out

1118
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:12,520
Speaker 2: super fast right now. With it being so dry, crops

1119
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 2: getting out. You mentioned the hit green last night still acorns.

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Speaker 2: Has anything shifted from what your plan would have been

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00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 2: if we would have had normal rainfalls throughout August and

1122
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 2: September to where it is today because of maybe food

1123
00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 2: plots are struggling. You know a lot of variables have

1124
00:58:29,600 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 2: maybe changed from what the inititional plan would have been

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00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 2: for a lot of folks. What's your opinion on that.

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00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,680
Speaker 2: I would have still focused on the food plots on

1127
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 2: a cold front like this. On the greens, some are struggling.

1128
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,480
Speaker 2: I know, you know me and you talk quite often.

1129
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:46,919
Speaker 2: I've got some food plots that are just phenomenal. Right now,

1130
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:48,800
Speaker 2: they've caught a couple of rains and then the stuff

1131
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:52,080
Speaker 2: that we spray on them. But there's the acorn crop

1132
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 2: this year is insane. I mean they are everywhere, just

1133
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 2: from all the spring rain that we got. But I

1134
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't think that I would have done

1135
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 2: anything differently. I'm a field edge hunter, you know. I

1136
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 2: like being on the edge, and I like being on

1137
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 2: a food plot. You know, we're the tractors running constantly

1138
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 2: all year planning food plots and spraying, and I don't know,

1139
00:59:11,440 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 2: I just like looking at them, you know, so maybethetically beautiful.

1140
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:21,400
Speaker 2: Look at freaking food plots. Well, they are fun to

1141
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 2: look at, they're fun to hunt. You get to see

1142
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 2: deer and and it's really special when they do what

1143
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 2: they're supposed to. So with your plan coming up here,

1144
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:33,240
Speaker 2: so you know, pretending it's October fifteenth right now, then

1145
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,280
Speaker 2: maybe someone was busy that the weekend we're going into.

1146
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: But it would have been the weekend as before.

1147
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 2: As this goes live, For someone that is still struggling

1148
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 2: or trying to find some deer or waiting for deer

1149
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 2: to shift, what would you say for them if they

1150
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:49,640
Speaker 2: have five cameras, ten cameras, three cameras one camera to

1151
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 2: go out and scout, like what are you keen in

1152
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,200
Speaker 2: on here this weekend to get set up for potentially

1153
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 2: the next cold front or better days ahead of us.

1154
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 2: Every property that I have permission to be on, I'm

1155
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 2: checking all those right now to see if the farmer

1156
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 2: has gotten the crop out. If so, I'm going in.

1157
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 2: I'm juicing up a scrape that's already been started and

1158
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:09,240
Speaker 2: hanging a camera on it, and I'm gonna let her

1159
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:11,120
Speaker 2: rip till the end of the month, and then after that,

1160
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 2: I'm jumping in a fence row whenever we start seeing

1161
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 2: some rut activity, I'm jumping in fence row and I'm camping.

1162
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:20,680
Speaker 2: As far as what you've seen over the years from

1163
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 2: running cameras, you know, knowing from the fifteenth to the

1164
01:00:24,840 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 2: twenty second, are you anticipating a deer to show back up?

1165
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 2: One to pop up out of nowhere? You know, like

1166
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 2: you know, grow out of the ground. I mean, it

1167
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,439
Speaker 2: can be an exciting time of year to be hanging

1168
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 2: cameras and check out absolutely like you know this time

1169
01:00:36,200 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 2: of the year, after they shed their velvet, we'll have

1170
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,840
Speaker 2: seven eight target bucks that were what we're king in on.

1171
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:45,959
Speaker 1: Typically we get those, we typically harvest those.

1172
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 2: There's usually probably that many, if not more, that are

1173
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 2: giving bucks bonus bucks that we never even knew existed.

1174
01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,200
Speaker 2: Last year, we shot at one to eighty that we

1175
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 2: never even knew that where the deer was. And we

1176
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 2: got to look and we're like, where is this deer

1177
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 2: even living at. He was in the middle of a

1178
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,240
Speaker 2: five hundred acre cornfield that had a pond in it

1179
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 2: with a tree line that he could come easy in

1180
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 2: and easy out. Nobody detected him. A lot of people

1181
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,200
Speaker 2: don't look at those farms. You know, this is fence

1182
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:21,840
Speaker 2: rowing crick system country. That's where we're hunting. And everybody

1183
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:23,920
Speaker 2: overlooks these fence rows during the rut and it's like,

1184
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 2: you know, we had one guy a couple of years

1185
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,760
Speaker 2: ago from Maine, not in the big woods, and I

1186
01:01:28,760 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 2: put him in this little five acre fence row and

1187
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,440
Speaker 2: he's like, you're seriously putting me here. I paid money

1188
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,520
Speaker 2: to hunt this, and I'm like, just.

1189
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: Just give me.

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01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 2: Today ends up killing a one sixty biggest deer that

1191
01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,120
Speaker 2: he's ever seen in his life, and saw like twenty

1192
01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 2: five deer that day, so that's what I'm looking for

1193
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 2: right now. But if I was a guy that didn't

1194
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 2: have a target buck on camera right now, I would

1195
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 2: be finding scrapes and getting.

1196
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:53,600
Speaker 4: It on there.

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01:01:55,360 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's that's exactly what my plans are

1198
01:01:58,560 --> 01:02:00,160
Speaker 2: this weekend, as well as to go out and look

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01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:03,400
Speaker 2: for sign hang cameras on scrapes. I've poked around here

1200
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 2: a little bit this week from getting back from my

1201
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 2: trip and dude finding finding some of those first scrapes

1202
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 2: that got worked up. That it just it puts me

1203
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 2: in the mood because it's like, oh man, they're deer

1204
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:15,440
Speaker 2: doing what.

1205
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: They're supposed to. It's getting exciting.

1206
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:22,120
Speaker 2: Those those scrapes and cameras are such a huge part

1207
01:02:22,120 --> 01:02:25,600
Speaker 2: of seeing what's going on, especially in farm country and

1208
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 2: probably really anywhere across the country. I mean, it's just

1209
01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 2: a great intel hub to develop a plan. One one

1210
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,280
Speaker 2: thing that I feel like a lot of people have

1211
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 2: an opinion on this and I want to get yours

1212
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 2: really quickly, is you get a big buck on a

1213
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 2: scrape in the middle of the night.

1214
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: Are you encouraged or discouraged.

1215
01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 2: I'm encouraged because in the next two or three days

1216
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 2: he's going to daylight. So if the if the wind's right,

1217
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,760
Speaker 2: I'll set on it for three days, you know, whil

1218
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 2: I've done it four days and we've and we've killed

1219
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:59,560
Speaker 2: the deer, you know, but he's closed. If he's there

1220
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 2: in the middle night, he's close. And especially if there's

1221
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,680
Speaker 2: a cold front coming in, you know, you definitely better

1222
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:06,479
Speaker 2: be on that and you're probably going to kill him.

1223
01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:06,840
Speaker 4: On that's great.

1224
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, what about So we're looking here in the extended forecast,

1225
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 2: it looks like it's going to be not anything special

1226
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 2: here for the next seven days. What is your outlook

1227
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 2: regarding that? On a scale one to ten, ten being

1228
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:23,320
Speaker 2: it's going to be the best week of the year,

1229
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:27,840
Speaker 2: one being absolutely terrible. So where where does the fall

1230
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 2: between one and ten? Knowing conditions aren't going to be

1231
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 2: anything exceptional, but it is an exciting time. I'm going

1232
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 2: to say one, I'm not too I'm not too excited

1233
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:39,160
Speaker 2: about it.

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01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 5: And I don't know if that's because I'm.

1235
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: Still good beans to cut, you know. I was jacked up,

1236
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: you know.

1237
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:47,360
Speaker 2: My wife last night she's like, Hey, we need to

1238
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 2: go do this, and I'm like no, I'm like, it's

1239
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 2: the coldest evening of the year. So far I'm hunting.

1240
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 2: I was like, call my mom, have her give you

1241
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,120
Speaker 2: a riodte or something, grab the kids, and I was like,

1242
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 2: I got to get back in the combine for the

1243
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,920
Speaker 2: next you know, five six days or whatever. So I'm

1244
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 2: not really too jacked up this week. I just I

1245
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 2: want to find some more scrape just get cameras on them.

1246
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,560
Speaker 2: Next weekend looks like we're gonna dip back down in

1247
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 2: the low seventies, and then here on out from then,

1248
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 2: it looks like we're gonna stay cool, So main focus,

1249
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:17,400
Speaker 2: get the beans out. Then we'll focus the rest of

1250
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 2: the time on the deer. And uh, I think that

1251
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 2: we're going to be surprised what deer show up on

1252
01:04:24,320 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 2: cameras this year, you know, the deer that we didn't

1253
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 2: know just for the simple fact of this spring was

1254
01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 2: so wet and all the way up. You know, most

1255
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:35,600
Speaker 2: of the summer antler growth was really great. Like you know,

1256
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:37,080
Speaker 2: I've sent you a lot of pictures. We've found a

1257
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 2: lot of big deer this year. Each d We've not

1258
01:04:40,600 --> 01:04:43,560
Speaker 2: been hit too hard with that. I'm sure we've found

1259
01:04:43,560 --> 01:04:46,960
Speaker 2: some dead deer in the fields, but other than that,

1260
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,160
Speaker 2: I've not found any others and and some other farmers

1261
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 2: i've spoke to have found a few, but I think

1262
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:55,600
Speaker 2: that we're going to be really surprised what's gonna show

1263
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 2: up on some of these scrapes. You know what it's

1264
01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 2: like trying to find deer with the cornst Mu's impossible.

1265
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 1: The good Yeah, there's there's a great shift.

1266
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 2: So your strategy is more scouting over the next seven

1267
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 2: days to get prepared for the next front. Be really

1268
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 2: keyed in on what bucks are showing up and what's

1269
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 2: sticking around. And uh yeah, I think I was not

1270
01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 2: expecting to one. So I really appreciate the cancer. I'm

1271
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 2: telling us what you think here, I mean this week,

1272
01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:26,720
Speaker 2: other than getting the cameras on on new scrapes, other

1273
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 2: than I could care less what the deer are doing

1274
01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 2: right now, you know, like as many food plots as

1275
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 2: we plant.

1276
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: Dude, I'm a late season hunter.

1277
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,560
Speaker 2: I want I just want to camp out in a

1278
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 2: redneck or whatever and just watch them. I mean, that's

1279
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 2: the funnest time of the year for me, especially in

1280
01:05:45,240 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 2: that time you're getting Arctic blasts essentially, and they're just

1281
01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 2: hammering him and it's awesome to sit in a food

1282
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 2: put watch forty deer and wait for a shooter to

1283
01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,200
Speaker 2: come in and then get upset because you can't get

1284
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 2: a shot off on him because there's so many does looking,

1285
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 2: you know, around, so many eyes but I don't know,

1286
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 2: scrape buttons a lot of fun too. It can just

1287
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:06,560
Speaker 2: it's super frustrating. Yeah, well to find the scrapes, hang

1288
01:06:06,680 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 2: some cameras, maybe throw us it.

1289
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:10,080
Speaker 1: Good luck the rest of the season.

1290
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 2: Hopefully the rest of Harvest goes really smooth for you guys,

1291
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,200
Speaker 2: and I really appreciate it, and good luck.

1292
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 5: Appreciate it.

1293
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 2: Dude, there, you guys have I hope you guys enjoyed

1294
01:06:19,040 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 2: this week's episode of Rough Fresh. I want to say

1295
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 2: thanks to Hunter, Rob and Josh and Chris forgiving their updates, and.

1296
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 1: I hope you guys have a great week.

1297
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:30,680
Speaker 2: Hopefully you get an opportunity, opportunity to scout or keep

1298
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 2: tabs on what's going on and prepare for this next

1299
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 2: cold front, or if you have some time, go out

1300
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 2: and hunt based off some of the intel that you

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01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 2: guys received here today. Until next time, We'll see you

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Speaker 2: next week on Rough Fresh. See you