1 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 1: Strap on the boots and scrape up the knuckles. Oh 2 00:00:05,320 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: and ahead, he got jacked. This is the Big Red 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Rain presented by Santanford in Gilbert. Mary's gonna score touchdown. 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: Slam to the ground by Buddha Baker Like a torpedo. 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 1: He came flying into the backfield. The Rage is brought 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: to you by satan Ford in Gilbert. Are you Santanford 7 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: State Farm talk to an agent today at eight hundred 8 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: State Farm, And by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts visit Hacy Cardinals 9 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: dot Com, Slash Podcasts, The Rod sn Rising Guard, Temperaturizing Vision, 10 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 1: Flurring Rage, take it over. Here's Paul CALVC. Get the 11 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,519 Speaker 1: popcorn ready, It's gonna be a show. And Ron Wolflee. 12 00:00:53,680 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: It doesn't get any better than that. Unleash the far Well. 13 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 1: It's July, which means it's not just monsoon season in 14 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,959 Speaker 1: the az but soon it's gonna be football season. And 15 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 1: what is in the forecast And we're not talking about 16 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: a five day we're talking about a five month forecast. Well, 17 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: that's a great question and part of the reason we 18 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: are here. For the next hour. It is the Big 19 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are 20 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 1: Santan Ford, Paul Kelvec. We've given Ron Wolfley the night off, 21 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 1: and we've gone best of the big Red rage Our 22 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 1: Jim Almahandra went into the archives so we can hit 23 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: the rewind button and look entering camp, every team asked 24 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: questions right and by the time camp ends, they want 25 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: answers the decision makers and for the Cardinals we can 26 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: talk about who's starting to right guard or who's opposite 27 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler at corner? Is Aj Green that outside Z 28 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:53,000 Speaker 1: receiver opposite d Hot But for me, the Mondo Questionnel 29 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: Grande can first round rookie Zaven Collins be the guy 30 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: from the get go. Is nearly six five two sixty, 31 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: but he's also gonna be the guy calling the defense. 32 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 1: He has the green dot as they say, on the helmet. 33 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: He's in direct communication with d coordinator Vans Joseph and 34 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: we had a chance to talk with one of the 35 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: guys primarily responsible for drafting Zavan Collins. I'd be Director 36 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: of Player Personnel, Drew Griggson, and we just started with 37 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: this size period because he is towering at middle linebacker. 38 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 1: That's kind of the feeling I had when I put 39 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:29,800 Speaker 1: on a tape, because when I first watched him, you see, 40 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: you know, you see, you see a big man. He's athletic, 41 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 1: he's running, you know, he plays that. They could you 42 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: could tell right away he's about a four to six guy. 43 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: But then you keep going back and forth and looking 44 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,040 Speaker 1: at that. This can't be right. It's six five, two 45 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: sixty because you don't. You just don't see. Mike's our 46 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: second level players that size and especially with that skill set. 47 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: So you know, and and then again you see how 48 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: big he how broad his shoulders are, how thick he 49 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: is through his lower how just well put together he is. 50 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: And then the athlete, he's a special player, and he's 51 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: going to be a special player for our organization going forward. 52 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: So when you hear Steve Kin the GM declare on 53 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: camera and say put it on cameras starter day one, 54 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury has reiterated that what's the risk reward of 55 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 1: a rookie at that position from day one? Considering that 56 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: guy in a lot of ways is the quarterback of 57 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: the defense. Oh that that is the first concern, But 58 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: that concern is was quickly taken away when you start 59 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: interviewing the kid in the year about it the background, 60 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: you start talking to coaching staff there, so you know, 61 00:03:26,160 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: if we're going to give the kid the green die, 62 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, he's calling the defense for us, he's you know, 63 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 1: setting the front, he's making adjustments. And that's one of 64 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 1: the first things you noticed that a rookie minicamp with 65 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: him was how comfortable he was doing that, how quick 66 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: he was to make adjustments, and how great of a 67 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: communicator he was, which is exactly what you want to see, 68 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: like you said, just on the flip side with the 69 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: quarterback that you want to see and that's that's what 70 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: we saw, was Avn. You know, these first few practices 71 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: that he's had with us, Drew, do you think that 72 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker would be able to help him out a 73 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: little bit in certain situations and just knowing how around 74 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 1: the box boot is going to be. Absolutely but you 75 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: hope he doesn't have to. You know, with Buddha's eyes 76 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: and his instincts, his awareness and his ability to know 77 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 1: where everyone needs to be here, he will help out. 78 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: But I expect Zaven. I expect Zavn to know where buddh' 79 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: is supposed to be, where JJ is supposed to be, 80 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: where Channel is supposed to be. That's you know, that's 81 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: his job again, that's why we drafted him, and that's 82 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: again the confidence that we have in I mean and 83 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: what we expected him going forward. Director of Player Personnel 84 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: Drew Grigson on the Big Red Rage presented by satan 85 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: Ford and Gilbert. On draft night, Michael Bidwell told us 86 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: from inside the war room there was a little bit 87 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: of anxiety over whether Zaven Collins would make it past 88 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: pick fifteen, and later the Patriot shared that if it 89 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: wasn't for the quarterback Mac Jones, Zavan Gons would have 90 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: been their guy. So take us into the draft night 91 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,400 Speaker 1: because we haven't talked to you about that yet. And 92 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: you know how much consternation was there as it was unfolding. Well, 93 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: you know when when we interviewed Zavan over zoom and 94 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: he hung up, he you know, he pressed the leave button, 95 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: we all looked at each other in the room like, 96 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: oh boy, Like it's almost like we knew that that 97 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: was a guy, that this is going to be a 98 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,400 Speaker 1: consideration at the sixteen and then its evolved and it 99 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 1: became what it was. And and that's always in the 100 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: back of your mind as the as the guys are 101 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: falling and we start to look at is they even 102 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: going to get past this team? Where he's going to 103 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: get past this team? And then sure enough he fell 104 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 1: right to us and we were able to pick him. 105 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 1: And again we feel great about him at sixteen, but 106 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: I think we got to steal at sixteen. So has 107 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: there been in another rookie when you think of the 108 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: rookies and rookie minicamp, has there been a rookie that 109 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: has actually stood out? He's the first one that I 110 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:35,479 Speaker 1: would just going back to everything I said when with 111 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: his command of the huddle, with his command of the defense, 112 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: his ability to make adjustments even before he gets him 113 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: from vance. I mean he is, he's knocking stuff out. Um, 114 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:46,159 Speaker 1: you know Vants telling me that if he makes a mistake, 115 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: that's it. It doesn't happen again. Um. You know. His 116 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: his ability to h to communicate with the rest of 117 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 1: the defense, move people around, and be confident doing it now. 118 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: And it's could be different again when he's looking at 119 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,719 Speaker 1: JJ Watton and Chandler Jones, Buddha Bay. But again, I 120 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: think it was his maturity and the respect that he's 121 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: going to get from those guys. It's going to be 122 00:06:04,480 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: an easy transplo. Just listening to you right there, that 123 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: really bodes well that this kid is doing as well 124 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: as he is in rookie mini camps. Absolutely, and again 125 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 1: they're still making a ton at him, but just watching 126 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: him out there again, I was, I left the first 127 00:06:20,440 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: couple of practices today and wobble give all right, this 128 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: is this is this, This was pretty good right now. 129 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: So we're bad about him, as you know, and having 130 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: him um inside call of defense with Isaiah next to him, 131 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: and you know, Steve heard Steve mentioned that those are 132 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,960 Speaker 1: those are two gigantic freaks in the middle of the 133 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: field and with two incredible skill sets for for a 134 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: Mike and mow for us. Right, Drew Grigson, the director 135 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 1: of Player Personnel, talking about those two young inside linebackers, 136 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: because I's not just on Zavian Collins, but Isaiah Simmons 137 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: as well. You talk about the athleticism, you talk about 138 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: the measurables, but you're also talking about the NFL game. 139 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 1: And we talked to Buddha Baker about that on a 140 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 1: recent Big Red Rage and just what would be the 141 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,040 Speaker 1: biggest challenge when you're a young guy, especially for a 142 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: Zaven Collins, who's a starter from day one. I think 143 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: the biggest challenge he'll probably get is the speed of 144 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: the speed of the game, calling him, you know, guy, 145 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: he's like you guys, you've seen he's huge, very fast. 146 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: He thinks of himself as a Brian or Lacker. So 147 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: you know, I definitely seen, you know, a couple of 148 00:07:26,960 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 1: highlights of him, and it looks like a guy who 149 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: can shoot the gap and you know, play man, plays zone, 150 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: do the things that we want him to do on 151 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: a defense. So I definitely think he's gonna be well 152 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: in this league for sure. Right So, All Pros safety 153 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker on a recent addition to The Big Red Rage, 154 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: with some more confidence about Davin Collins and what they 155 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: have seen so far. You heard the compa Brian or Lacker. 156 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: We've also heard Jamie Collins. A current player would be 157 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds, the extra large inside linebacker of the Buffalo Bills. 158 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 1: And remember it's not just the measurables. It's the ability 159 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: to diagnose the play and then defeat the block and 160 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: reach the ball, carry and bring them down. And that's 161 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,240 Speaker 1: all gonna be on display when the Cardinals go to 162 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: Tennessee Week one, and they try and go against Derrick 163 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: Henry all sixty three two hundred fifty plus pounds of 164 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: locomotive coming downhill. So we'll find out right away what 165 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: can a thumper like Zavian Collins do for the Cardinals defense. 166 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 1: But what about a round two receiver who runs a 167 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: sub four three forty, A player who doesn't just move 168 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: laterally in space, he quote teleports. We'll talk about Rondale 169 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: Moore and what he can do for Cliff and Kyler 170 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: in this offense. Next, this is the Big Red Rage 171 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert with the ninth pick 172 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 1: in twenty one NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinal Select run 173 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:59,559 Speaker 1: down more receiver Perdue just talked about trying to get 174 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: faster at the top. I said that because there's a 175 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,079 Speaker 1: lot of buzz about them, maybe trading up for Jaylen Waddle. 176 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 1: But Rondale Moore can't fly a little four to three. 177 00:09:07,280 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: You can use him on some of these gadget plays. 178 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,359 Speaker 1: You get him on the fly suite and jet suits, 179 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: the run after catch. Not only is he fast, he 180 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: is sturdy and strong and once he breaks tackles and 181 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: gets out in the open field. He's gone on the 182 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: wheel route, double moves. He's got not only a second year, 183 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: but a third year down the field. Daniel Jeremiah NFL 184 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: Network Draft analysts preceded by the Cardinals right tackle Kelvin 185 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 1: Beacham making the selection Day two, round two pick Rondale Moore. Yes, 186 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: we are rated R four rookies on this best of 187 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: edition of the Big Red Rage. Welcome back in everyone. 188 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: We're brought to you by satan Ford and Gilbert We 189 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,520 Speaker 1: are satan Ford, Paul calBC here and into the war 190 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: room we go. Because when it comes to Rondale Moore, 191 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 1: there's what's listed five to seven of buck eighty one, 192 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: the sub forty three, forty the vertical of forty two 193 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: and a half. Right, But then there's what you learn 194 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: when you're listening when we go all access Steve Kim 195 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:07,560 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury on Draft night before the selection of Rondale Moore. 196 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:11,599 Speaker 1: Rondale Moore, the wide out kick returner vertical jumped like 197 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,079 Speaker 1: forty two and a half inches. He's a dog, but 198 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:16,960 Speaker 1: yeah he's gonna come in and think he's the fan, 199 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: be a pro and the balls in his hands. He 200 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: is a special special median impact return ability, you'll be 201 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 1: ready to roll. So Cliff Kingsbury there with GM Steve 202 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 1: Kim and again it sounds like Rondale Moore is gonna 203 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 1: see the field, not unlike Zavian Collins, the first round 204 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: rookie at linebacker. If you remember, former Cowboys receiver Des 205 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: Bryant tweeted out before round two, quote Rondale Moore instant 206 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: impact wherever he goes. Remember this tweet, said Dez Bryant, 207 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: former Cowboys receiver. And when you see Rondale Moore out 208 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: on the field, like we had a chance to do 209 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 1: at Minicamp, it's just his stature, the fact he catches 210 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: the ball easily, his explosion. And we joke with Director 211 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: of a Player Personnel Drew Grigson, who was our guest 212 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: recently on The Big Red Rage, how every day is 213 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: leg day with ron Dale Moore. And we asked him 214 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: about his physical makeup. Yeah, you know, and you look 215 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: at the height on paper and it says five seven. 216 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: I talked him. I was in the dining hall with 217 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: him the other day and he might be five seven, 218 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: but you saw Paulie. I mean he is he has 219 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: put together and he has slapped together, and he's not 220 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: a frail, meek individual. He is a solid one hundred 221 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: and eighty five pounds and he's a kid that I've 222 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: been following at producings day one when he stepped down 223 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 1: the field against Northwestern in twenty eighteens. My brother was 224 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: a captain at Perdue in ninety four, so it's a 225 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 1: program that I was following, and just going back to 226 00:11:38,559 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 1: that that year and eighteen that he had it was special. 227 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: You know, college accolades, you know all American teams and trophies, 228 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: and that doesn't necessarily translate to pro production. But one 229 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:51,319 Speaker 1: interesting fact about the kid is, I mean, he was 230 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 1: only the third player in NCAA history to be a 231 00:11:55,440 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: true freshman's consensus All American. The only other guys to 232 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: do that were Adrian Peter and Herschel Walker. If that 233 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:04,400 Speaker 1: tells you anything about that tells you especial. That's crazy. 234 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 1: So that just again and then he you know, he 235 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,319 Speaker 1: had some injuries going into into nineteen and then the 236 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: COVID year, and that threw a curveball to everyone. But 237 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: we know what the kid can do. He's gonna make 238 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: his dynamic inside. He's arguably the best Ronifer catch guy 239 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: in this draft and he hits it straight line. It's unbelievable. 240 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: But this kid's ability to move a ladd early and 241 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: I mean he just gets teleports. He hasn't just changed directions. 242 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: It's it's unbelievable to watch. Um, and he's he's you know, 243 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: he's he's a video game in real life. I heard 244 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: every one of the defensive coaches said the other day, 245 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: this kid looks quick and slow motion. So, um, I 246 00:12:38,600 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: just you know when that, I just I'm excited to 247 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: see him for seventeen games for us. All Right. So 248 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: that's Drew Gregson, Cardinals Director a player personnel recently on 249 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage bullish on Rondale More. Just last month, 250 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: we saw an analytics report come out about rookie receiver's 251 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: NFL dot Com and they talked about Rondale Moore maintaining 252 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: his speed after contact on inside at the highest rate 253 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: of any receiver in D one, which is intriguing because 254 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: there's another stat that during that freshman campaign he was 255 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: an All American, he had more miss tackles than any 256 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: receiver had in a decade. So all that combined, we 257 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: had to go to former Cardinals linebacker Rob Frederickson, who's 258 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: still an avid fan of the Big Ten as a 259 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: former Michigan State spartan, and because Rob spends most of 260 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,000 Speaker 1: his Saturdays watching every Big Ten game, we got his 261 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: take on Rondelle Moore. I watch a lot of Big 262 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: Ten football, a lot of my spartans, and then a 263 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: few years ago, Rondel Moore was absolutely destroying the Big Ten. 264 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: I mean, he was honestly in the Heisman talk and 265 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: he destroyed Ohio State. Now he's had some injuries the 266 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: last couple of years and he hasn't seen the field 267 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,079 Speaker 1: a lot, so that's obviously a concern. But just from 268 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: a talent standpoint, yeah, he's not the tallest guy in 269 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: the world, but I'm telling you he is a quick 270 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: one of the quickest players you'll ever see, and once 271 00:14:01,320 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: he gets the ball, he knows what to do with it. 272 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: Very exciting football player. I hope he can stay healthy. 273 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: That's you know, that's that's gonna be the big knock 274 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: on Wood. But Rondel Moore, you know, if this guy 275 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: stayed healthy, he would have been a first round pick. 276 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: Do you think he evolves Cliff Kingsbury's offense? Meaning there's 277 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: gonna be some wrinkles we've never seen before because they 278 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 1: now have a Rondel Moore. Or is this the piece 279 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: that completes Cliff Kingsbury's offense and the guy he's been 280 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:32,480 Speaker 1: looking for all along. Yeah, if I'm speaking honestly here, 281 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to see a bunch of a whole 282 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:38,760 Speaker 1: new wrinkles. Honestly, I actually want to see this offense 283 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: gain an identity. And I think personally it starts with 284 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:45,080 Speaker 1: the running game. I want I want to see more 285 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: downhill running. I want to see more under center. But 286 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 1: that's just me personally, that's I just think there's so 287 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: many more things. Yeah, I just think there's so many 288 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: more things you can do when you're under center, and 289 00:14:57,280 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be all the time. But yeah, exactly, 290 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: you know, maybe twenty twenty fifteen snaps a game. Let's 291 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: let's do some things where that running game really starts 292 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 1: to establish things, and then you're going to see guys 293 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,000 Speaker 1: like Rondel Moore really exploit things coming out of play 294 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: action over the middle. Oh my goodness, Becker, do you 295 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: really think that might happen? For me? It's the biggest 296 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 1: question mark going into the season. It really is. It's 297 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: not the defense, it's the offense. Ironically enough, it's the offense. 298 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 1: And how much will this offense change? I you know, 299 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: is there going to be a blending of the old 300 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: and more traditional offenses with the new I don't know, 301 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 1: but that to me is the biggest question mark. Yeah. Well, well, 302 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 1: if I remember last year, you and I were talking, 303 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: yeah before before the game, and we were we were 304 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: just pleading for something like that to happen, and and 305 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: they did. Cliff Cliff started getting Kyler under center. They 306 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: were doing some bootlegs and play action and moving DeAndre 307 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: Hopkins around. I don't think it's good to have him 308 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: stagnant over on the left side. Let's move him around 309 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: a little bit. It was working. And so I think 310 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: when when in the off season, when they go back 311 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,120 Speaker 1: and self scout and self evaluate the season and watch 312 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 1: the film and they see some of those plays that, 313 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: you know what, there's some things that we can build 314 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: off of that I think they're gonna implement it. I 315 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: really do. All right. Cardinals broadcaster Rob Fredericks in there, 316 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: former Cardinals linebacker and first round pick himself, and it's 317 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: a great point. If the D and D hop is 318 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: going to stand for double team. Then the Cardinals have 319 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,200 Speaker 1: to make these defenses pay right. Get the ball to 320 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: Rondale Moore in space, ord aj Green on the outside. 321 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,960 Speaker 1: You have the one two punch your running back. You 322 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: can't let defenses sit back in the soft cover two 323 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: like they did a lot of last year with those 324 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: two high safeties and then use zone coverages underneath. Hey 325 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: or reminder, team up with the Cardinals and State Farm 326 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: by donating a backpack filled with school supplies for students 327 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: in need, and then Temple Elementary School District support our 328 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: ull Back to School drive from now through July ninth. 329 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,360 Speaker 1: Got Asy Cardinals dot com slash back to school. That's 330 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:10,640 Speaker 1: Asy Cardinals dot com slash back the number two and school. 331 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: All Right. We talked about Rondelle Moore and Zavian Collins, 332 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: but two of the more compelling players are rookie cornerbacks. 333 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: Both was size and speed and a lot of motivation. 334 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: Their story next. As we continue with this best of 335 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: addition to the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford 336 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: in Gilbert with the one hundred and thirty sixth pick 337 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: in the twenty twenty one NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals 338 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: select Marco Wilson, cornerback, Florida smart player too, and that's 339 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: what they value. Rondale Moore graduated for two and two 340 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: and a half years and Zavan Collins was the high 341 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: school valedictorian. Marco Wilson aptitude tests off the charts, smart 342 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: player with the of course athletical villa. Yeah, he should 343 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,959 Speaker 1: be known for more than throwing the show against ls YO. 344 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,159 Speaker 1: He's a good player, trained by his father who was 345 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: a college defensive back. His brother Quincy Wilson also in 346 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: the NFL. Good Bloodlins, good intellect. And it's Peter Schreger 347 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: and Charles Davis NFL Network after the Day three selection 348 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: of Marco Wilson in the most recent NFL draft. Yes, 349 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: we are rated R four rookies on this best of 350 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: edition of The Big Red Rage presented by Santan Ford 351 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: in Gilbert Paul CALVC and we're going into the hot 352 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,159 Speaker 1: tub time machine some of the best conversations from this 353 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: past offseason as we look ahead to the upcoming season 354 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: and look for the first time in a decade, the 355 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:39,920 Speaker 1: Cardinals are without Patrick Peterson. They'll see their former eight 356 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,399 Speaker 1: time Pro Bowl corner in Week two, the home opener 357 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: against the Vikings. So going into camp that cornerback room 358 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,479 Speaker 1: there is the known and the unknown, Malcolm Butler and 359 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: Byron Murphy. Okay, but then the rest is TBD two 360 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 1: B determined and the two rookies are part of the mix, 361 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: especially a Marco Wilson, who has at a lead skill set. 362 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: He's six foot even buck ninety one, ran a four 363 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: three four forty forty three and a half vertical, and 364 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: twenty six reps on the bench. This is all for 365 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: a cornerback. And that's where we start our conversation with 366 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: the Cardinals Director of player Personnel Drew Grigson. Well, it 367 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: was Marco. You know, you're getting a guy that's got height, weight, speed. 368 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: He ran well, I don't know if you guys saw 369 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: the picture of him out jumping the VerTech where he 370 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,400 Speaker 1: jumped forty three inches or something like that. So yeah, 371 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: we know, we know he could run and jump. But 372 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: he's also a you know, a thirty plus game starter 373 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: in the SEC. He's seen every top receiver, he's seen 374 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: first round draft picks weekend and week out. He comes 375 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: from a football family, you know, his dad played at Miami. 376 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: His brother obviously played at Florida a few years before him. 377 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: He's a hard worker. He's gonna be a tough outside corner. 378 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: He could play press man. So he's a guy that 379 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: fits us, and he fits us personality wise. He's going 380 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: to contribute right. Drew Grigson once again, the Cardinals director 381 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: of player Personnel, talking about Marco Wilson, who walked into 382 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: Florida started as true freshman, only the fourth player ever 383 00:20:02,359 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: to do that. The other three include Joe Hayden and 384 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: Jenorris Jenkins. And then in round six of the Cardinals 385 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: got tay Gowan, who's even bigger at six foot one 386 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 1: and his supreme confidence. Tay Gowen believes if he wouldn't 387 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: have opted out of twenty twenty, he would have been 388 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: a first or second round pick. And we've talked about 389 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: these rookie corners with Buddha Baker, the All Pro safety 390 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,719 Speaker 1: on a recent addition to the Big Red Rage, and 391 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: we asked him about mentoring these young guys. Yeah, I mean, 392 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 1: I'm definitely excited to see what those guys can do. 393 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: First and foremost, we're going to see him on the 394 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 1: field and you know, helped him out. However we can 395 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: but for me being a dB, being a safety, I'm 396 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,400 Speaker 1: definitely gonna have to give him the calls, help him 397 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: out whatever they need help with. And we have a 398 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: lot of faith in Gene Money, the corners coach over there, 399 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 1: and you know, even guys like Byron who is going 400 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: to help the young guys. I'm excited to see what 401 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: these guys can do for sure. All Right, Buddha Baker 402 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: there on the two rookie corners, and remember the all 403 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: safety along with Jalen Thompson. They're going to be out 404 00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: on that field with a combination in a three corners 405 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: most of the time in the Cardinals base defense. And 406 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 1: you heard Buddha mentioned g Money, Well that's short for 407 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 1: Greg Williams, the Cardinal's cornerbacks coach, who was a guest 408 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: recently on The Big Red Rage. And we asked coach Williams, 409 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 1: all right, what makes a good press man corner and 410 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 1: how much confidence do you need at that position? What 411 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: it takes as a guy with supreme confidence really, because 412 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,320 Speaker 1: as you know, man, you're out there on an island, 413 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: and you know it's it's so much exposure that you 414 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: have to be able to put plays behind you, bad plays, 415 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 1: behind you and also put the good plays behind you. 416 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: So you need a guy that has supreme confidence and 417 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,119 Speaker 1: the supreme belief in itself to go out there. And 418 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 1: then obviously the talent. I mean, you got to be 419 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: talented to plan this league anyway, So you got to 420 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: have that. That's a prerequisite. You know what, It's really 421 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: interesting you bring that up right off the top, because 422 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago here in the Big Red Rage, 423 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: we had the pleasure of talking with Frank Sanders, long 424 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: time receiver for the years, on a Cardinal's former round 425 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 1: two pick, and then one of the things he said 426 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 1: about bringing in rookie corners we anticipated this was that 427 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 1: receivers in the NFL, we'll welcome young corners to the 428 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: league by trying to steal their confidence, in the words 429 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 1: of Frank Sanders, And well, we remember that, and then 430 00:22:14,400 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: listen to Tay Gowan when he's talking to the media, 431 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 1: because if you want belief in yourself, listen to him 432 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 1: after he was picked in round six. Just now, I've 433 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 1: been counting out my whole life. I wanted to show 434 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: on a big platform that I could play, and now 435 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: I'm about to show docer dominant in the NFL, I'd 436 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,639 Speaker 1: be a Tom Brady other corners. I think I needed this. 437 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: I needed this in my journey and in the way 438 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonnaproach the game. So I want to say thank 439 00:22:37,240 --> 00:22:39,879 Speaker 1: you for the way. Actually, So, coach, is that what 440 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: you're talking about, that sort of confidence say, I'm going 441 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: to be the Tom Brady of corners. Yeah, obviously, Uh, 442 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 1: he's got that confidence. But it's It's the thing about 443 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: him is once you get to know him, it's not 444 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:55,720 Speaker 1: just what he says. He actually uh, he actually lives 445 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: a you know what I mean. Even talking to him 446 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,600 Speaker 1: in the last few days, just putting in stalls in 447 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 1: and talking to him, he's he backs it up by 448 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: his work ethic. So it's not just talk. A lot 449 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: of guys can talk it, but you really have to 450 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: believe it and you have to walk the walk. And 451 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,879 Speaker 1: so far since I've known this young man, he uh, 452 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: he has what it takes to actually walk the walk 453 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: when it when it comes to that type of confidence, coach, 454 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: what are your thoughts on Marco Wilson and getting him 455 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:27,439 Speaker 1: in the fourth from we thought right away VJ and myself, uh, 456 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: and Marcus Robertson as we watched him. We knew that 457 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: he had uh talent, you know he had he has 458 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 1: a skill set just like some of the other elite 459 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 1: corners that went earlier in the draft. And Uh, it's 460 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: just a matter of getting consistent. And then we think 461 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,439 Speaker 1: that he has that in him. Obviously the bloodline that 462 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: he has. Uh. I was with the Coats when we 463 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: drafted his brother, who I am still so I'm still 464 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: friends with to this day. And UH, and respect because 465 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: he was very knowledgeable about the game. So we know 466 00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: his background and the kind of work ethic that he's 467 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: gonna bring. So we think with Marco and in and 468 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: say we think your best ball is ahead of them. 469 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: I mean, if you're Marco Wilson and you walked into 470 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: Florida and you started as a true freshman at eighteen 471 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:11,880 Speaker 1: years of age, Look at all the sec receivers who 472 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: just went in this draft, right, So, if there's a 473 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 1: guy who could really threaten to get some early playing time, 474 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,360 Speaker 1: I would think it would be a guy like Marco Wilson. Yeah, 475 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: Marco's gonna come in and he's I don't I don't 476 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 1: believe he's gonna be too big for him at all. 477 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: He's obviously proven that this guy's he's and if you know, 478 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,920 Speaker 1: he played a lot of a lot of good football 479 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: in high school as well, so he's he's been around it, 480 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: he's played it. And then, like he said, he's started 481 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: and he played a ton of games in the SEC. 482 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 1: So he'll be facing receivers that he saw and that 483 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: he saw on Saturdays. He'll be seeing some of these 484 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: same guys on Sunday. So it's not gonna be too 485 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: big for him. He's gonna He's got a nice, quiet 486 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 1: confidence about himself. And that's kind of what we looked 487 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:51,520 Speaker 1: at when Steve was asking about these guys and the 488 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: kind of guys he wanted to be Cardinals. Uh, those 489 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: are the type of type of characteristics that he was 490 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: looking for. And I think both of those guys really, uh, 491 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: they really have that kind of characteristics about them. And Coach, 492 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 1: there was a lot of conversation in regard to Marco 493 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: Wilson about him throwing a shoe against LS. Yeah, what 494 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:14,359 Speaker 1: are your thoughts on that? Overall? Coach, I knew about 495 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,640 Speaker 1: the shoe just because you know, I watched the news, 496 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 1: I watched Sports Center, But when we watched the coaches copy, 497 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 1: when I when I was evaluating his game film, watched 498 00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: the tape. He does a lot of good things on tape. 499 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,240 Speaker 1: So as you watch the game and you're watching all 500 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: the plays he's making on tape, and then the tape 501 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 1: on the coaches copy, it cuts off before he throws 502 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: the shoe. So you just watched the coaches copy, you 503 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: get all the good plays without the throw another shoe. 504 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: So I knew about what happened, but but it was 505 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 1: I was. I was already I was already convinced by 506 00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: the skill set that I saw throughout the game. So 507 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: you're not worried about really good game. Yeah, you're not 508 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,719 Speaker 1: worried about him having an emotional issue where he you know, 509 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 1: to me, emotion on the football field. I don't think 510 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: that's necessarily a bad thing, unless it to do something dumb. 511 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,879 Speaker 1: I mean, Wolf, you're the guy. You're the guy who 512 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,200 Speaker 1: threw the dog biscuits and the dog bones back at 513 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,680 Speaker 1: the dog pound in Cleveland when you were on iverstand, Paul, 514 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: That's exactly my point. It takes one to know one 515 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: that's right well, I mean, coach seriously, though, I mean, 516 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: it really sounds like he's learned a lesson to hear 517 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: him talk about it and talk about how you have 518 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 1: to be in control of your emotions at all times 519 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: and how silly mistakes can affect not just you but 520 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: other people. I mean, if you're gonna learn that lesson, 521 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: college is the time to do it, I would presume, yeah, absolutely, 522 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: and talking to him, talking to him. I know Steve 523 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: had a chance to speak with him over his zoom, 524 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 1: so did Advanced Joseph, so did I. We did that 525 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,399 Speaker 1: on a couple of separate occasions. You get to know 526 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: him and you know that it wasn't a malicious act, 527 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 1: it wasn't to hurt his teammates. He's not an out 528 00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 1: of control guy. And we did our due diligence and 529 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: talking to down there in Gainesville, and you can't find 530 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,959 Speaker 1: one person, one person you know that's within that building 531 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,639 Speaker 1: that had something negative to say about his personality. So 532 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: that convinced us right there. And it's Cardinals Cornerbacks coach 533 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,160 Speaker 1: Greg Williams on a recent edition to The Big Red Rage, 534 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: and look, if college is for learning lessons, well that's 535 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 1: exactly what happened with Marco Wilson. And guess what. You 536 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: look at the NFC West and you look at the 537 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: combination of receivers on every single team in Seattle. It's 538 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett, a DK Metcalf, the Rams have Cooper Cup 539 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: and Robert Woods, the Niners with Deebo Samuel and Brandon Nayuk. 540 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: And how about the first two weeks on the Cardinals 541 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: schedule that tightens with Julio Jones now and aj Brown, 542 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 1: the Vikings with Adam Feeling and Justin Jefferson. It's going 543 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: to be cornerbacked by committee that Cardinals are going to 544 00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: need all of these guys in some combination of Vance 545 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: Joseph's coverages. All right, when we come back in this edition, 546 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: this best of edition of the Big Red Rage, another rookie. 547 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 1: This guy is considered a comp for Marcus Golden. It's 548 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: the Big Red Rage presented by Santan for In Gilbert. 549 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get out. Victor McCage was another guy 550 00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: that adding a big, six strong outside linebacker. I was 551 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: excited about. He started every single game he played in college, 552 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: and he was forty six forty seventh straight games. And 553 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: Charlie Bullen and I, Quinn Harris and I we went 554 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: to the Pro Day. The coaches start talking about this guy. 555 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: And you know they just light up the kids all business. 556 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: They say, is the alpha the group. I would actually 557 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: use the word scary to describe him. So um, no 558 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: one message with the guy. See you get that alpha 559 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: personality with the Duke degree. It's kind of rare, Yes, 560 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: a rare combo. Indeed, no doubt that is Drew Grigson, 561 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 1: Director of Player Personnel, earlier this offseason here on the 562 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. This 563 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: is a best of edition. And you know what you're 564 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: drafting around six? You have picked number two hundred and ten. 565 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: Why not take a flyer? And that guy who started 566 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: as a true freshman at Duke second all time in 567 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: Saxon Duke history. He had a three nassack game last 568 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 1: year against Boston College. Named a semi finalists for the 569 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: Ronnie Lott Impact Trophy. Drew Grigson talking about Victor dimukg 570 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: six two, two sixty long arms and a NonStop motor 571 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: in fact, so relentless. A big reason the Cardinals drafted 572 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 1: him is because they consider his camp Marcus Golden. And 573 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: we started our conversation with Victor de Mukagi by asking 574 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 1: him what does football mean? Do you Football means a 575 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: lot to me. I started playing around the eighth grade. 576 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: Didn't really know a lot about the sport when I 577 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: moved from Nigeria. But once I started playing, you know, 578 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: I fell in love with the game. You know, I 579 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: have passion for the game, and you know what it 580 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 1: means a lot to me. Right now, I'm just trying 581 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: to play as long as possible. You moved from Nigeria 582 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 1: with your family when you were eight. Actually it was 583 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: kind of like a roller coaster. So I was born 584 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: in Nigeria. I moved to North Carolina with my family 585 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: around the age of three, went back to Nigeria around 586 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: the age of five, and then me and my family 587 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,040 Speaker 1: we moved to Baltimore around the age of eight. Is 588 00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: there any football in Nigeria? Does anyone play football? American 589 00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,680 Speaker 1: football in Nigeria when I was there? No, You know, 590 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 1: I played soccer when I was younger, but I didn't 591 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,239 Speaker 1: know anything about football until I got here. You know, 592 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: there's this stat. I just gotta get to this because 593 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 1: when you were drafted, we were talking about the Cardinals 594 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,760 Speaker 1: draft class and this stood out. You bench pressed two 595 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five pounds thirty two times as a 596 00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: high school junior. I mean that's gonna be a TYPEO. 597 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: Is that correct, Victor? Yes? There, Yeah, I was absolutely. 598 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,520 Speaker 1: I acolutely did more in high school than I did 599 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,840 Speaker 1: about Friday. I was pretty shrunk coming out of high school. 600 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: So when you graduate with a degree in evolutionary anthropology, 601 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 1: how demanding was that? Oh man, it was tough. M 602 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: my freshman year, I had to I had to learn 603 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: quick because trying to balance um, you know, academics to 604 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: a football starting as a true freshman. You know, it 605 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: was definitely tough my freshman year. But um, that time 606 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 1: went on, you know, I was able to play faster, 607 00:30:58,360 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: learn how to take care of my time while I 608 00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: was and just know how to balance everything. Let's talk 609 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 1: about why the Cardinals chose Victor Demo KG, and let's 610 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: go back to that conversation we had of the Big 611 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: Red Rage right after the draft Director of Player Personnel 612 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: Drew Grigson and Wolf you're chopping it up with him. 613 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: At one point, you guys were talking about the Cardinals 614 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 1: six round pick, who's six two, two sixty two. Drew Grigson, 615 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,000 Speaker 1: He's gonna be a hard, charging ball and muscle for us. 616 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 1: He just plays a relentless motor, reminding me of Marcus 617 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: Golden when I watched him. So I'm excited that he's 618 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: got a great last name. When you think about a demo, KG, 619 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: it just it's gonna sound really good and look good 620 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 1: on the back of a jersey. Tough to figure out, 621 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: you know, when you're first looking at him, you just 622 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: call him Vic. There you go, Grigson. So let me 623 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: ask you, Vic, if we can call you that Marcus Golden, 624 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: do you agree with that comp? Now that you've seen 625 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,719 Speaker 1: Marcus Golden at least in the mandatory mini camps, what 626 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: do you think about the comp? Marcus Goldener? He's a 627 00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: great player. That's actually one of the guys I've been 628 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: around um through our op as a mini camp. You know, 629 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: I've learned a lot from him. Um. He's a great leader, 630 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 1: and I actually like knew about him when he was 631 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: coming out of college. I've watched a lot of them, 632 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: and he's a great player. He plays with a lot 633 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: of effort. He's a guy that you respect. When you 634 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 1: put on the tape, you see one hundred percent effort. 635 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: You see that motor, you see a relentlessness, and you 636 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: know that's that's a great comparison because honestly, he's been 637 00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 1: in the league fall while, he had some good seasons, 638 00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 1: and he saw what he did once he got to 639 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: the Cardinals last year. So you know, just learning from him, 640 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 1: trying to get as much knowledge as I can from him, 641 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: you know, that would take me a long way. You 642 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: mentioned Marcus Golden. What about Chandler Jones. Have you had 643 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: a chance to interact with Chandler? I know he wasn't 644 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: in the mini camp and maybe in some of the 645 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,600 Speaker 1: Zoom meetings or some other meetings around the facility. And 646 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,320 Speaker 1: you know, we talked to Zach Allen, Cardinal's defensive lineman. 647 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: In his time at Boston College, he would study tape 648 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: of JJ Watt and now he's sharing a position room 649 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: and getting text messages from JJ Watt. So I'm curious 650 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: to what degree had you studied Chandler Jones over the 651 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,640 Speaker 1: last few years, just as one of the premier pass 652 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: rushers in all the land? Well, now that's a guy. Yeah, 653 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: I started a lot of Chandler Jones. You know, he's 654 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: been doing this for years. He averages around like ten 655 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: sex a year, so I've kept up with him. Um, 656 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: he's one of the best at what he does. And 657 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: I've actually interacted with him on zoom calls and I'm 658 00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 1: at a one time in person. So UM, just having 659 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: that guy in the room, you know, that's a guy, 660 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 1: that's another guy. Can learn a lot from them, you know. UM, 661 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: you know I could pick his brain. UM. And I 662 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: definitely look up to him. You know, he's done a 663 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: lot in this league, and UM, you know I hopefully 664 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: hopefully get doing that. Victor. Do you like playing over 665 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: a tight end? Do you like that? Do you prefer 666 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: the open side or do you like playing over a 667 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: tight end? I like doing both. Um. I feel like 668 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: I could do both. I could play the sam and 669 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: the will. Um. I've been learning both since I got here. 670 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:40,320 Speaker 1: So I feel like whenever, you know, whenever my number 671 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: is called, whenever it's time to go in, wherever the 672 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: coaches want me to fit in or want me to play, 673 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm to play. Do you feel like 674 00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: you can hold up at the point of attack on 675 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: the end? Do you feel like you can set that 676 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: edge Victor? Um, Actually, I feel like that's one of 677 00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 1: the things I do really well. Um. I feel like 678 00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 1: I'm I'm violent at the point of attack. And you know, 679 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: I'm very you know, I have a motor. I know 680 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: how to send the edge. Um. You know, it's all 681 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 1: about getting the ball and having great hand placement. And 682 00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: I feel like I do a really good job with that. 683 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 1: How about J J Wat give us some first impressions. 684 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: What you see in your takeaways from number ninety nine. 685 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, He's he's different, you know, you see, um, 686 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,280 Speaker 1: you see how he works. You see how he's different 687 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,319 Speaker 1: when he walks in the building. You know, he's a well, 688 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,680 Speaker 1: he's aware of respected guy. You know, he puts in 689 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,359 Speaker 1: the extra works. Um in the training room, you know, um, 690 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 1: in the weight room. He just he's he's a pro. 691 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,840 Speaker 1: He's a definition of a pro. He does everything the 692 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,640 Speaker 1: right way. And UM, you know I actually got some 693 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: extra work with him after one of the mini camp days. 694 00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,400 Speaker 1: You know, I was just able to learn pick his 695 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,160 Speaker 1: brain and learn some stuff from him, just doing different 696 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:47,239 Speaker 1: drills and I'm just seeing like what he does to 697 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:49,359 Speaker 1: like or like what he did to like get him 698 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: to the position he's at today. And UM, you know, 699 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,359 Speaker 1: just being around him, you know, makes me better. And 700 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: you know that's another guy on this team that you 701 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: know I have to get to know and like be around, 702 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,200 Speaker 1: because I hopefully wants to be as good as the 703 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 1: one day. And you know he wears ninety nine. Obviously, 704 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: you wear ninety two for wolfing myself on this show. 705 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 1: For five years, our player host was Bertrand Berry, who 706 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: wore number ninety two at a Pro Bowl season two 707 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 1: thousand and four fourteen and a half sacks, and he's 708 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: now one of our Cardinals broadcasters. He was on the 709 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 1: Red Sea Report and Victory was asked about you wearing 710 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: number ninety two. Bertrand Berry b train, if you're going 711 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: to wear that number, you better be able to get 712 00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: after quarterback. In years, I don't want people riding the 713 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 1: pine with the number ninety two. That number is not 714 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: to be on the sideline soaking up gatorade and all 715 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. It's meant to be out there 716 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,400 Speaker 1: on the field just getting after quarterbacks and making big plays. 717 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 1: It's associated with greatness and handsomeness. So if you're going 718 00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: to wear that number, you better be good at what 719 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,120 Speaker 1: you do and you better be a good looking stud. 720 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,720 Speaker 1: So so there you go. There's your If you're wondering 721 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,400 Speaker 1: what your goals are this this year, your rookie season. Okay, 722 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: you gotta play good and you gotta look good. According 723 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: to Bertrand Berry goods already enough, that's good. See you're 724 00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: you're already halfway there. You know you got that self 725 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 1: confidence that you know you look the part, like just 726 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: like Pat Train always knew he looked a part, right 727 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 1: it was it was the cleaner, fresh look, right Wolf. 728 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: That's always used to say, right that. So, Victor, have 729 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: they told you how they planned on using you? Van's Joseph? 730 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 1: I mean, is it just gonna be edge edge edge 731 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,359 Speaker 1: all the time? I really, I'm not really sure right now. 732 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 1: Like once I got here, we just started learning plagues 733 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,479 Speaker 1: um learning book the SAMIN and with positions, um learning 734 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 1: stuff on special teams, So like right, no, they just 735 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: wanted to learn the playbook and then um after training 736 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 1: camp bus see from there. All right. So there's Victor 737 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: Demo KG the sixth rounder. He's into his playbook right now, 738 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,359 Speaker 1: and he took it easy on us and talk over 739 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:47,439 Speaker 1: our heads with that Duke degree. But look, it's gonna 740 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: be fun to see how it goes in camp in 741 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,760 Speaker 1: the preseason, especially when he was known as an alpha 742 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: male at Duke Guys do not mess with him. And 743 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:58,840 Speaker 1: then you combine that with the measurables and a motor 744 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 1: they compare to market golden and there's no doubt we're 745 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: going to see him on special teams at the very 746 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,879 Speaker 1: least in the seventh round. The Cardinals drafted safety James 747 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 1: Wiggins out of Cincinnati limited last season coming off injury, 748 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,439 Speaker 1: but going into that twenty nineteen campaign, check this out. 749 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,360 Speaker 1: A college football freaks list came out. It included Isaiah Simmons, 750 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:23,320 Speaker 1: Rondale Moore, and James Wiggins. He squats seven twenty five benches, 751 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: two twenty five or eighteen reps, runs a four four forty, 752 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 1: so we'll see if he makes a name for himself, 753 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,520 Speaker 1: especially on special teams as well. And then you have 754 00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: another newcomer, but not just to the Cardinals, but to America, 755 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 1: tight end Bernhard Psychovets from the Vienna vikings As in 756 00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,799 Speaker 1: Austria via the NFL's International Pathway program. He's six five, 757 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: two sixty and on a team that's short on tight ends, 758 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,600 Speaker 1: Psycho's gonna get every chance to prove that he belongs. 759 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 1: We had a chance to catch up last month and 760 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: our Ron Wolfley asked him, how's it going. It's going 761 00:37:55,560 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: pretty pretty good, I believe. I mean, we're practicing hard 762 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 1: every day, putting everything in we have. Transition so far 763 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: has been really smooth. I came in and I thought 764 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: it would be a little bit more up tempo, but 765 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:13,920 Speaker 1: I guess the OTAs this year are I don't know 766 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: how to say it, but like we only had helmets 767 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: on and stuff like that, so it wasn't too taxing 768 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 1: on the body. But I guess for a rookie that's 769 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: good because you can kind of smooth in there. But yeah, 770 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 1: it's it's been pretty good. I'm still trying to meet 771 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: everybody at the facility, which is pretty hard for me 772 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: remembering all the names and stuff, but I'm going to 773 00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 1: get there. The last time you met the media and 774 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: we're on board with Bernhardt Psyche, it's newest Arizona Cardinals 775 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 1: tight end, you were still in quarantine in a hotel room. 776 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: You had just arrived from Europe. So what have you 777 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,759 Speaker 1: learned so far about the NFL that perhaps you didn't know? 778 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:55,319 Speaker 1: I mean, I came in prepared to kind of this 779 00:38:55,600 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: business monster the NFL, like the cup throat style, but 780 00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: I've I've as I said, I walked into a facility, 781 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: everybody welcome with open arms, so I didn't really feel 782 00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: any of that. It's honestly, it's just been a great 783 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: experience and I have fun every day I walk in 784 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: there and get to work. And that's also really rewarding 785 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,240 Speaker 1: because all the time playing in Europe and not getting 786 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,320 Speaker 1: anything out of the sport except for playing the sport 787 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: that you love with your friends. But now you even 788 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,959 Speaker 1: get like like a reward, like actual money reward, which 789 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: is really cool for me. Yeah, that's probably the biggest 790 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,360 Speaker 1: change for me. The Psycho are you? Are you honestly 791 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,879 Speaker 1: a celebrity over in Austria, right? I mean, how many 792 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 1: guys are playing in the National Football League? How many 793 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: guys actually have the opportunity to play in the National 794 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 1: Football League walking around Austria? Do do your friends know that? 795 00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 1: How big of a deal is that? I mean, I 796 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,399 Speaker 1: don't want to say it's like a really big deal, 797 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 1: but of course it's like the football community in Austria 798 00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:08,200 Speaker 1: which is growing every day. I guess everybody knows about 799 00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: it and people are really intrigued by it, especially the 800 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,200 Speaker 1: young players that I've even coached at the Vikings and 801 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: all the other teams are really happy for me and 802 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,719 Speaker 1: into it, because that's everybody's dream, even if you grow 803 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: up in Austria. Of course it seems so far away. 804 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,640 Speaker 1: But even if only if one guy makes it, or 805 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 1: like gets a chance in the NFL to make it, 806 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,720 Speaker 1: that fuels a lot of young kids that went aft 807 00:40:35,840 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 1: in Europe. I've been talking to kids from Germany, from Swiss. 808 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,480 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people people reached out to me, 809 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 1: and it's it's just really humbling to see what kind 810 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: of like effect you have on young people back home. 811 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: Very cool, bernhard side. If it's our guests from the 812 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: International Pathway Program on the Cardinals roster competing for a 813 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 1: spot wolf. To answer your question, just go ahead and 814 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 1: go to Twitter and check the hashtag German bird gang 815 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,920 Speaker 1: okay or being a Vikings, I mean, yeah, he's a 816 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,359 Speaker 1: big deal, no doubt about it. Going back to how 817 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: you got into football, you said, if I saw this correctly, 818 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: you fell in love with football after your first Oklahoma drill. 819 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: Is that accurate? Yes, that's accurate. I mean I'm back 820 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 1: in the days in Bianna. The coaches used to be 821 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,719 Speaker 1: pretty old school, I would say, so. The first thing 822 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: the rookies would do is like tackling drills and one 823 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,919 Speaker 1: really big tackling drillers of course the Oklahoma drill. And 824 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,320 Speaker 1: still to this state, I always see the young guys 825 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,880 Speaker 1: to under ten guys doing tackling drews and Oklahoma drives. 826 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 1: And yeah, like the first d it I felt weird 827 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,680 Speaker 1: at the first, but I don't know, I kind of 828 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,440 Speaker 1: enjoyed it, and yeah, that's what made me stick to 829 00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 1: the sport Psycho. On that note right there, would you 830 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: rather catch a touchdown pass or knock somebody on their butt? 831 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,920 Speaker 1: I think I think those are pretty much on the 832 00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:08,760 Speaker 1: same level. Um, Like, I really enjoy like the physical 833 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: physicality of the game. Um and when you just man 834 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: handle another guy that is a grown up man just 835 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,560 Speaker 1: like you are, that's a that's a really great feeling. 836 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:23,280 Speaker 1: But also, um running away from someone or checking someone 837 00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,479 Speaker 1: out to catch a touch some it's also a really 838 00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: voting feeling. When you met the media initially you said 839 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 1: that you felt like you're ready to compete at this level. 840 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: Have you proves that proven? Have you seen from what 841 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,359 Speaker 1: you've seen? How confident are you you can compete when 842 00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,359 Speaker 1: training camp comes around? Um? So, of course, growing up overseas. Um. 843 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:46,080 Speaker 1: I never watched an NFL game live, so I could 844 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 1: never or college game, so I could never see how 845 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:52,359 Speaker 1: big the bodies really are, how fast they move? Um, 846 00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: So the biggest thing for me coming over here, the 847 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,919 Speaker 1: first thing I wanted to see for myself is how 848 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:02,160 Speaker 1: big are they? How fast are they? And even as 849 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,520 Speaker 1: I said, we didn't do any like we just had 850 00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:07,399 Speaker 1: helmets on, so we didn't go head to head or 851 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,759 Speaker 1: like men on man blocking or any of this. Um. 852 00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 1: But seeing that from the physical standpoint, I'm riding with 853 00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:24,279 Speaker 1: those guys gave me confidence in myself. So now it's 854 00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: just can I play better football than those guys? Um? 855 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:32,840 Speaker 1: Can I learn the playbook faster? And yeah, especially things 856 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,320 Speaker 1: like learning the playbook? I think that's one hundred percent 857 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: on me. So UM, if I really study my playbook, 858 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,360 Speaker 1: which I am, UM, I think I can show the 859 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 1: coaches that I'm a fast learner and I hope they 860 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:49,400 Speaker 1: start trusting me more and more. And who knows what 861 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: happens after this. Um, how do you say I'm going 862 00:43:52,239 --> 00:43:54,839 Speaker 1: to kick your butt in German? How do you say 863 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:59,200 Speaker 1: that you know how to do that? I mean, yeah, 864 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:07,120 Speaker 1: it would be paid to him and ash. I all right, 865 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,080 Speaker 1: that's good stuff there from Bernhard's psyche. Its the Cardinals 866 00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:12,680 Speaker 1: rookie tight end from Austria, and it's good to hear 867 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,080 Speaker 1: the Oklahoma drill is alive and well in Europe. And 868 00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: by the way, after that interview, Wolf pounded like four 869 00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: pounds of schnitzel as he got hungry just thinking about that. 870 00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,719 Speaker 1: So shout out to the German bird gang in NFL Deutschland, 871 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,680 Speaker 1: to Twitter handles that follow Bernhard's psyche of its religiously. 872 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: And I'll tell you based on what we saw a 873 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 1: mini camp, he has the size, he can move. Can 874 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,279 Speaker 1: he play tackle football? That is the question, and that's 875 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 1: what everyone will find out in training camp next month. 876 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,759 Speaker 1: So by the way, he said, he's very impressed so 877 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: far with the physique quote end quote of JJ Watt 878 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,520 Speaker 1: is and he's jacked up JJ watt and been very 879 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,680 Speaker 1: impressed overall by Max Williams, the veteran tight end in 880 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 1: that room. Hey, single game tickets are on sale now. 881 00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: Just go to easy Cardinals dot com Slash Game ticks. 882 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,759 Speaker 1: That's easy Cardinals dot com slash game tix. All right, 883 00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 1: special thanks as always. Executive producer Jim Almahundro. 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