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Speaker 1: Sometimes sports history isn't pretty, and I'm not sure if

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Speaker 1: Illinois's overtime win over Penn State was a classic ord disaster,

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Speaker 1: but it certainly was fun to watch the ineptitude there

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Speaker 1: time and time again they failed to get into the

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Speaker 1: end zone. They started off exchanging field goals and then

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Speaker 1: the traditional college overtime, and then after that they changed

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Speaker 1: the rule this year, so dueling two point conversions presumably

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Speaker 1: one of the games to end earlier, it had the

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Speaker 1: opposite effect. Illinois eventually got to win. Illinois was a

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Speaker 1: twenty four point underdog. It was a one sided battle,

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Speaker 1: though Illinois was the better team, out gaining the Nitney

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Speaker 1: Lyons three ninety five to two twenty seven, most of

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Speaker 1: the damage on the ground. The Ellini even turned to

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Speaker 1: their backup quarterback in the middle of overtime and still

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Speaker 1: won the game. One of the stranger games I've ever seen,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not sure I want to see it again,

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Speaker 1: but it certainly was fun seeing something completely unique on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: You know, I didn't know if it was going to

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Speaker 1: be a good college ball weekend. I did say that

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Speaker 1: game of the weekend. I watched that. It was wild

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Speaker 1: lived up to it, Wake Forest putting seventy on West Point.

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Speaker 1: It was We're gonna run the ball, Wake's gonna throw

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Speaker 1: watched Clemson against Pittsburgh and what happened to the Clemson Tigers. Alabama.

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Speaker 1: Tennessee watched that. Tennessee was in it, and then Alabama

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Speaker 1: whole lot better than this team, and then they showed it.

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Speaker 1: Michigan looked good, Cincinnati did not look good. That almost

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Speaker 1: felt like a loss as they held on to beat Navy.

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Speaker 1: But college football, I watched Oregon, Ucla, Ucla with a

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Speaker 1: backup quarterback had a chance. That was certainly fun, Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: and Kansas. I watched a ton of college football, as

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Speaker 1: you can tell, because I have to vote on the Heisman,

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Speaker 1: so somebody has to win it this year. The question

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Speaker 1: is do we have a front runner? All the front

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Speaker 1: runners to start the season, they've been benched for the

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Speaker 1: most part. Spencer Rattler DJ you you know the guys

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Speaker 1: we thought might be up there for the Heisman. That's

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Speaker 1: why every year we start out, we're like September Heisman candidate.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to be a Heisman candidate in September,

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Speaker 1: even October November, that's when you want to and you're

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Speaker 1: gonna have somebody emerge here. But a lot of college

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Speaker 1: football over the weekend. Cincinnati Oklomba, sur Vipenn State, Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: As far as the NFL, the Titans smoking the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: Bengals Bengals for real, question mark, Well, they certainly roughed up.

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Speaker 1: They spank the Ravens. Cardinals are still undefeated and Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady once that MVP this year six hundred touchdown passes. No, no, no,

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Speaker 1: it felt like that felt like that. I like, when

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Speaker 1: Fields doesn't do well, it's because of the coaches and

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Speaker 1: the team. Can't have it both ways here. Although there

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Speaker 1: was a moment in the game that Justin Fields was

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Speaker 1: The first interception, he quick snapped the ball because they

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Speaker 1: told him in the headset, Hey, the Buccaneers have twelve

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Speaker 1: players on the field. He thought it was a free play.

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Speaker 1: That's the second week in a row that that's happened

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Speaker 1: not a good team that he's on, which leads us

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Speaker 1: to Patrick Mahomes. Oh boy. Three weeks ago or the

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Speaker 1: start of the season, he first ballot Hall of Famer.

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Speaker 1: And now I don't know. Is he the second best,

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Speaker 1: frustrate them, plus take advantage of that defense. That's terrible,

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Speaker 1: and that's what the Titans did. It's not like Derrick

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Speaker 1: you're like, man, Derrick Henry must add two hundred yarns. No, No,

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Speaker 1: they just played good football, all around football offense, defense

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Speaker 1: But if you're still on, which you should be, Patrick Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: they got the Giants coming up next week. But this

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Speaker 1: They got some tough games here. Now the question is

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Speaker 1: That's a team we know is dangerous. It's just like

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Speaker 1: I've said about the Titans. The Titans are a dangerous

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Speaker 1: you've gotten people's attention. I don't know if people are

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Speaker 1: You're only as good as that offensive line. You start

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Speaker 1: don't have blocking, I don't care if it's Brady, if

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Speaker 1: it's Breeze, if it's Mahomes, it doesn't matter. But when

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame quarterback. Patrick Mahomes I think needs to

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Speaker 1: almost hit the reset button of what is it that

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Speaker 1: we can take from a defense used to be Kansas

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Speaker 1: Now it almost feels like you have to take what

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Speaker 1: beating the Giants, that's not going to calm any fears

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Speaker 1: can I make the case for Mahomes? Yeah? Sure, Well

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Speaker 1: Mike Remmers is on the field as one of his tackles. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: He always gets killed in the Super Bowl. He's out there.

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Speaker 1: They traded their left tackles from Baltimore. You never trade

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Speaker 1: the ball for eight minute drive, touchdown, eight minute drive,

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Speaker 1: You can't score when you're not on the field. But

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Speaker 1: When they do get on the field, they're used to

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Speaker 1: now we really got to make something happen. Well. Patrick

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Speaker 1: Mahomes is back to the gun slinger. This was the

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Speaker 1: gun slinger. This is why a lot of people weren't

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Speaker 1: have great weapons. The offensive line is not an upgrade

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Speaker 1: When you go against a good defensive front, they're going

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Speaker 1: previous year, a yellow shot. Like all of these things happen,

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Speaker 1: the Ravens. The Ravens last week, Oh my god, Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson's the MVP. Nobody's doing more with less. They just

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Speaker 1: meet the Chargers. That's what happens. They sacked him five times.

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Speaker 1: Who knews Cincinnati's front was that good because they kind

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Speaker 1: of pieced it together getting these players from other teams.

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Speaker 1: Jamar Chase spectacular, Joe Burrow not getting hit as much.

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Speaker 1: That's really important. He was sacked once. But each week,

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Speaker 1: and that's the way it is until next week when

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Speaker 1: something happens or doesn't happen, and then we'll change our opinions. Yes,

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Speaker 1: mcclub the Chiefs I think play the Giant sex week

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Speaker 1: on Monday Night? Is that even beating them? Is that

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Speaker 1: enough to like quell the Patrick Mahomes worry. No, but

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Speaker 1: But they didn't win games by blowing people out. And

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Speaker 1: this team they dominate you. They can come back from anything. Well,

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Speaker 1: they allow teams to stay in these games. It's rare

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Speaker 1: when they beat somebody by double digits. But let's see

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Speaker 1: what happens now. Is you know, now is when Kansas

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Speaker 1: City has to regroup to say who are we? Because

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Speaker 1: I don't think Kansas City knows who they are right now.

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Speaker 1: And that's probably the biggest surprise, Kansas City not looking

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Speaker 1: like a formidable team. But give credit. You know, Tennessee

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Speaker 1: And my point is always the same. You had the

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Speaker 1: talent to get to the World Series, to win a

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Speaker 1: World Series. Why would you jeopardize that pursuit that route

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Speaker 1: by cheating a couple of years ago? And you know,

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Speaker 1: for some reason it's like, hey, we proved that we

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Speaker 1: didn't cheat somehow because we got to the World Series again. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I don't think this is some sort of absolution for

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. And I'm sure if the Dodgers had beaten

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Speaker 1: the Braves and this World Series was starting at Dodger

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Speaker 1: staying tomorrow, I don't think the fans at Dodger stayed

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Speaker 1: and would be building up signs saying we absolve you.

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Speaker 1: It's still a source spot for many people here in

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles, and I'm sure around the country, and as

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Speaker 1: the Astros themselves know from traveling the country, for a

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Speaker 1: lot of fans, but you know they're here and so

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Speaker 1: we took their caps to what they did this year. Bill,

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Speaker 1: thank you and we appreciate your time. All right, take care.

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Speaker 1: That's Bill shakin, La Times national baseball writer covering the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: his weekly visit. Carson, I was listening to Ryan Clark,

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Speaker 1: former defensive back on ESPN earlier this morning, and he said,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahome is too cocky, like he's still trying to

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Speaker 1: he doesn't take the easy stuff. He's still going for

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Speaker 1: those big plays. Can you kind of reset your game

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Speaker 1: plan or mindset as a quarterback, even somebody like Patrick

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Speaker 1: Mahomes during the season, Oh absolutely. I mean that game

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Speaker 1: was one of those games where you're on the sideline

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Speaker 1: and before you know it, you're down fourteen nothing, and

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Speaker 1: then you have a three and out and you go

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Speaker 1: back to the sideline. You're looking at the play sheets

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Speaker 1: in the next series and it's seventeen nothing, and you

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Speaker 1: feel like that. Being down seventeen nothing in the first

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Speaker 1: quarter can sometimes feel like you're down thirty five nothing

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Speaker 1: and you've got to make something happen fast. And that's

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Speaker 1: not the way Kansas City has built. Kansas City is

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Speaker 1: not built to get the ball out quick, take what

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Speaker 1: the defense gives you. Kansas City is built play action gimmicks,

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Speaker 1: funky little screens and take shots downfield. And unfortunately for

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Speaker 1: Kansas City, Tennessee got in a situation where they could

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Speaker 1: just sit back, they could play almost like a pre

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Speaker 1: event type defense, not let Tyreek Hill get over the

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Speaker 1: top and take any big chunk plays. And they were

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Speaker 1: going to force Patrick to take what the defense gives

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Speaker 1: yet and that's just not how they're built, and that's

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Speaker 1: not how he's built his career up to this point.

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Speaker 1: He's taken shots, he hasn't been down fourteen, seventeen, nothing

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Speaker 1: in the first half many times, So you know, that's

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Speaker 1: just not the way he's wired right now. But absolutely

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Speaker 1: he can hit a reset button. He'll go back and

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Speaker 1: he'll sit down, they'll watch film together. He'll say yeay

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Speaker 1: or nay on certain throws and certain decisions from last week,

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Speaker 1: and he's got to continue to progress. At the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, Patrick Mahomes is not a thirty five

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Speaker 1: year old VET. He is still early on in his

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Speaker 1: career and has a ton of growing to do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wonder about that that it felt like, just keep

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Speaker 1: everything in front of you, contain just you know, almost

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Speaker 1: force them to be more methodical and not go for

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Speaker 1: those home run plays. And sometimes when you get it

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Speaker 1: in your mind that Tyreek Hill wants to beat you deep,

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Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey wants to have a big play, Mahomes wants

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Speaker 1: to make the big play. And the more times they

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Speaker 1: step on the field knowing they have to make something

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Speaker 1: happen because that defense isn't any good, it just it

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Speaker 1: ramps up the pressure. But how surprised are you people

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Speaker 1: are jumping off the Chiefs bandwagon so quickly after seven games.

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Speaker 1: I'm not surprised because the product isn't very good right now,

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Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, we all need

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Speaker 1: to keep in mind that Tennessee Titans are the perfect

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Speaker 1: team to play Kansas City. They can run the ball

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Speaker 1: with Derrick Henry over and over and over again. They

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Speaker 1: can keep Patrick Mahomes and tygree Kill and Travis Kelsey

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Speaker 1: and all those guys sitting on the sideline waiting for

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Speaker 1: their next opportunity. So I'm not off the bandwagon. I

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Speaker 1: don't think the season is over. I still think they're

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Speaker 1: going to compete for that division and find a way

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Speaker 1: to get in the playoffs, and they'll right the ship

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Speaker 1: because they do have enough good players if they continue

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Speaker 1: to stay healthy. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I can't think of a more well designed

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Speaker 1: team to beat them than Tennessee. They play great defense.

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Speaker 1: Their coach is the defensive minded, really really sharp Mike Vrabel,

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Speaker 1: really really sharp defensive mind, so he understands what it

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Speaker 1: means to get the quarterback off out of rhythm, and

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Speaker 1: he understands what it takes to slow down a Tyree

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Speaker 1: Hill and a Travis Kelsey. So that was the perfect storm.

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Speaker 1: They jumped out to an early lead. The Titans did

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Speaker 1: and that's the way you want to play Kansas City

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Speaker 1: as you keep Patrick Mahomes on the sideline. And they

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Speaker 1: did that and that's why they blew them out. What's

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Speaker 1: it like when you have a great receiver, let's say

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow and Jamar Chase, Aaron Rodgers and Davante Adams,

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Speaker 1: like you get locked in and everybody knows that you're

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Speaker 1: you're locked in. How do you try to tell the

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Speaker 1: defense I'm not always going to Jamar Chase or I'm

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Speaker 1: not always going to Davante Adams, Like how do Rodgers

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Speaker 1: and Burrow and obviously different ages here, but to give

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Speaker 1: that impression of I'm going to spread the field even

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Speaker 1: though we know this is your go to guy. It's tough.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's tough on the quarterba X mentality. It's

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Speaker 1: tough for that receiver because that receivers used to getting

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Speaker 1: the ball so often and can get kind of lackadaisical.

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Speaker 1: If we go through the first quarter, then the second

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Speaker 1: quarter and into the third quarter without any targets. But

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Speaker 1: you know, I was watching the Arizona game and that's

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Speaker 1: exactly how Kyler Murray plays with DeAndre Hopkins. As soon

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Speaker 1: as things get off timing and off schedule and he

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Speaker 1: has to move around the pocket, it's almost like he

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Speaker 1: exclusively looks for DeAndre Hopkins. He just has a certain

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Speaker 1: comfort level. He knows that if he throws it his

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Speaker 1: way and he misses a little bit, DeAndre will knock

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Speaker 1: the ball down and not let it get picked. You know,

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Speaker 1: those are comfort level things. When you're a quarterback and

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Speaker 1: you're Joe Burrow and you feel like you got to

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Speaker 1: feed Jamar Chase and get him the ball early and

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Speaker 1: get him interested in the game and get the juices

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Speaker 1: flowing for him. It's really difficult to not get zoned

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Speaker 1: in and really force him the ball. You've got to

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Speaker 1: take what the defense gives you. And kind of like

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Speaker 1: what I alluded to earlier in Kansas City is Patrick

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Speaker 1: is not used to just taking those easy chunk those

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Speaker 1: those nice little easy completions where the ball comes out.

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Speaker 1: They don't do a ton of quick game. They don't

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Speaker 1: throw a bunch of hitches and a bunch of slants,

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Speaker 1: they do a lot of motions, a lot of speed sweeps,

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Speaker 1: a lot of play actions, and throw the ball Attackee

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Speaker 1: down field. So when you get a quarterback out of

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Speaker 1: his comfort level and make Kyler Murray move around the

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Speaker 1: pocket avoid a couple of guys, he's always naturally going

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Speaker 1: to look for DeAndre and and tell Patrick Mahomes. Really

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Speaker 1: shows us that he's going to take what the defense

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Speaker 1: gives him on every play, on every drive through four quarters,

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Speaker 1: people are gonna sit back, they're gonna make him throw

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Speaker 1: the ball into bad situations. They're gonna make him take

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Speaker 1: off and run. And we saw him do it a

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Speaker 1: couple of times yesterday and he got loose with the ball,

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Speaker 1: you know, ended up being a fumble and going the

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Speaker 1: opposite direction. So there's a certain comfort level that a

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Speaker 1: lot of these, especially young quarterbacks have with their go

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Speaker 1: to targets where when things get wild or things get

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Speaker 1: off course, they're gonna look for those Jamar Chases and

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Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. How do you keep everybody happy? Because every

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Speaker 1: receiver thinks he's open, every receiver thinks that he could

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Speaker 1: be an all pro. There is no keeping everybody happy.

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Speaker 1: You know, when you watch again back to Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray's got some vets around him. He's gotten aj Green,

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Speaker 1: who's kind of been there, done that, Pro Bowls, thousand

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Speaker 1: yard seasons, ten touchdown seasons, and now he just wants

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Speaker 1: to win. DeAndre Hopkins prolific career. Pro Bowl after Pro

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Speaker 1: Bowl after Pro Bowl, now he just wants to win.

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Speaker 1: So when you have a young quarterback with two older

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Speaker 1: experienced vets that get it and don't need to touch

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Speaker 1: the ball ten times a game and make sure they

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Speaker 1: get their thousand yard seasons, those guys just want to win.

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Speaker 1: When you got Jamaar Chase and some of the guys

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Speaker 1: that Te Higgins that Joe Burrow's working with in Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: you know those guys aren't old vets. Those guys are

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Speaker 1: trying to establish themselves. Those guys want the ball. They

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Speaker 1: can demand the ball. But I think at the end

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Speaker 1: of the day, in Cincinnati, particularly Joe Burrows a cemented veteran.

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Speaker 1: He is a well respected, well trusted veteran on that team,

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Speaker 1: even though he's a young guy. So he's going to

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Speaker 1: be able to control the expectations and control the want

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Speaker 1: and the need for the ball for those outside players.

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Speaker 1: How often would you call a play just to keep

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Speaker 1: a player happy. It's more. It's not so much that

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Speaker 1: it's more, all right, I know the easy completion is

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Speaker 1: throwing the quick out to the tight end. But I

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Speaker 1: think I can get chat O Chosinko on a big

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Speaker 1: post here, or I think I can throw Jamar Chase

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Speaker 1: this deep comeback and hold the ball for a little

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Speaker 1: bit longer. So you know, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: you got to go. And I keep saying it, you

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Speaker 1: gotta take what the defense is given you. These defenses

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Speaker 1: are too fast, they're too quick, there's too many playmakers

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Speaker 1: on the outside at defensive back. You gotta consistently take

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Speaker 1: what the defense gives you. Am on a town hall

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Speaker 1: phone called Zoom with Tom Brady later today and I

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Speaker 1: get one question, Is there is there a question that

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Speaker 1: you would like answered by Tom Brady? There's not one question.

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Speaker 1: There's a million questions. Man. When I watch him play

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Speaker 1: at four, I don't get it. How does he practice

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday? I think that's that's the question. Does he

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Speaker 1: really practice on Wednesday? Are they fudging the injury report?

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Speaker 1: Or at forty four after a Sunday game, seventy two

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Speaker 1: hours later, is he finishing a practice on Wednesday and Thursday?

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Speaker 1: And to what extent is he practicing on Wednesday Thursday?

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Speaker 1: Is he just out there with shoulder pads and a

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Speaker 1: helmet and putting a mouthpiece in or is he literally

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Speaker 1: going through bag work and jump rope and moving around

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Speaker 1: the pocket and throwing the ball to receivers on the Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But he doesn't get hit on Sunday, Carson, he got

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Speaker 1: hit once on Sunday by the Bears. That that one

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Speaker 1: hit at forty four can take. It can take an

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Speaker 1: entire week to wear that store and us off. I

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Speaker 1: just want to know is he really doing it or

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Speaker 1: they fudging that injury report. Six hundred career touchdown passes.

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Speaker 1: It's mind boggling. It's mind boggling. There's no doubt about it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what he's doing at you know, at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, there's a reason he plays for

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Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. He could have gone pretty much

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Speaker 1: anywhere he wanted. He knew at forty four he needed

638
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Speaker 1: to be able to throw a quick slam to Chris

639
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: Godwin that can go to the house, or throw you know,

640
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 1: a quick hitch to Mike Evans, and he can break

641
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Speaker 1: a tackle and go for sixty. He needed that kind

642
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: of playmaking ability and speed Antonio Brown, the two running

643
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: backs they have in the backfield with Leonard Fornette leading

644
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,360
Speaker 1: the way. I mean, he needed that kind of talent

645
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: and that kind of ability around him, because you saw

646
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: it in his last two or three years in New England.

647
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: I mean, Julian Elman is a great player, but he's

648
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: not a game breaking player. He can't blow a game open.

649
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,560
Speaker 1: He's sitting on a roster with two or three players

650
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,800
Speaker 1: that can absolutely blow a game open. We're talking to

651
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Speaker 1: Carson Palmer, former NFL quarterback. Did the Heisman trophy show up?

652
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,720
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I have not seen it yet,

653
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 1: but I mean, Fritz, is there anybody better than on

654
00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: the Prinsidan? Fritz? Is there anybody better? Yeah? Oh yeah,

655
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,279
Speaker 1: there's tons of people better than Fritzie. Let's see if

656
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Speaker 1: you get it. Carson, Wait, why why are you giving

657
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: Fritzie credit? Because Fritzie's the man. He does all your

658
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:14,439
Speaker 1: dirty works on top of it, do you know when

659
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: the Carson's Heisman shows up? If it hasn't arrived it

660
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:21,360
Speaker 1: to be there any day, that means he doesn't know

661
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:23,719
Speaker 1: a damn thing. We have. We have ways to track

662
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,479
Speaker 1: the very special idea. We're not gonna make We're gonna

663
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 1: make sure it doesn't get long. I just want to

664
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Speaker 1: make sure because that that's a that's a bank vault

665
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: that we put it in. Now, what are you gonna do?

666
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 1: Are you gonna put that in the Home of Fame.

667
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: So Fritzie, being the amazing human being that he is,

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Speaker 1: sent it to the Hall of Fame because the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame is on December seventh or December eleventh. So

670
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 1: when I get there and we have the ceremony, the

671
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame asked for some memorabilia, trophies, kind of

672
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Speaker 1: different stuff from from my career, and so they're gonna

673
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: set it up shop. They're gonna have a locker on

674
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Speaker 1: this play in. The heisman will be in there. Oh,

675
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,359
Speaker 1: it's all all due to fritz No. No, Well, let's

676
00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: make sure it gets there, though, Carson, because if it doesn't,

677
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 1: then it's on Fritzie. Right I trust fritz Yeah, yeah,

678
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 1: Tom Brady wouldn't trust Fritzie. And by the way, Fritzie

679
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 1: is a Broncho fan, So can you really trust a

680
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: Broncho fan. It's been a long season. I mean they

681
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:29,280
Speaker 1: won three games, and they might only win three games unfortunately, Fritzie,

682
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: could you be the best quarterback on the Broncos roster

683
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Speaker 1: if you went there now? For like six plays? Okay,

684
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: maybe five plays. I've got five players in the mouth.

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Speaker 1: Any issues with your undefeated cardinalsh injuries? Obviously? When when

686
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,719
Speaker 1: you look at that team and you look at some

687
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,359
Speaker 1: of the I mean, they have one of the best

688
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: defensive lines in the league. They're stout, they can stop

689
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 1: the run. They got two edge rushers with Marcus Gold,

690
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: they got Chandler Jones. I like the way they're built

691
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 1: from top to bottom. If they can stay healthy, I

692
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,359
Speaker 1: don't know anybody that can play with them. Now, if

693
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: they lose a Chandler, they lose the DeAndre Hopkins, things

694
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: could go south real quick. But the way that team

695
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: is built, there are some stars at key positions. If

696
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Speaker 1: they stay healthy, I don't know that anybody can beat them.

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Speaker 1: That weather last night in San Francisco was that was brutal?

698
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Speaker 1: Did you ever? But it is it wind or rain

699
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: that that's the worst wind. I'd rather play in snow, sleet, rain, lightning.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather take take my chances I'm not probably not

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00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 1: the tallest guy in the field. But wind changes everything

702
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: because once you get inside these stadiums, there's always an

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Speaker 1: entry point for where the wind comes in. There's very

704
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 1: few stadiums built like the Rose Bowl where it's just

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00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 1: a perfect bowl. Now there's ends that are open in

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Speaker 1: one way or another, and when that wind comes in

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00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: that stadium and it's start swirling, you can feel like

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00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: at the twenty yard line when you take a snap,

709
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: the winds in your face. But if you're throwing a

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00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: deep ball and the ball goes up over the thirty

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00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:11,480
Speaker 1: and pass the forty yard line, that wind direction totally

712
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: changes in the stadium. So it can be a crapshoot,

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Speaker 1: especially if you're on the road. When you're at home,

714
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: you know a little bit more about different wind directions

715
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: in your own stadium, But when you're on the road,

716
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:24,879
Speaker 1: it's a crapshoot. Unless you know that stadium like Tom

717
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: Brady does just about every stadium in the league. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those things that it can kill a

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Speaker 1: game plan. You can have four or five deep shots

720
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: you really like versus defense, but if it's a windy,

721
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: weird day like that, it can take four or five

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Speaker 1: deep shots out of the game plane because you just

723
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: can't trust the wind and putting a lot of touch

724
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Speaker 1: and putting an air underneath the ball. What was the

725
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,120
Speaker 1: worst weather you ever played in? I played a game

726
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Speaker 1: in Miami in twenty sixteen, twenty seventeen, and when we

727
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,640
Speaker 1: landed in Florida, we knew there was there was a

728
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 1: storm coming and it was just one of those weird games.

729
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: Every time we had the ball and off fence, a

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00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: downpouring suit and I'm talking like like like a movie

731
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Speaker 1: set rain storm. You know, you watch a movie sometimes

732
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: you're like, there's I've never seen it rain like that,

733
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: and it's this real romantics, you know, scene where these

734
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 1: two characters are about to kiss, and it's just like

735
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Speaker 1: somebody's dumping a picture of just relentless water. It was

736
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 1: one of those weird games. The storm system came in

737
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 1: over planet Hollywood Stadium and just absolutely dumped. I think

738
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Speaker 1: there was like six or ten fumbles in the game.

739
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Speaker 1: Nobody could hold onto the ball. It was one of

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Speaker 1: those days. Did you have any bets with Notre Dame

741
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: friends with usc Notre Dame this past weekend? Uh? No,

742
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: but I bet Notre Dame to cover and one. I

743
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: just figured they were going to blow them out and

744
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:48,439
Speaker 1: I was right, Wow, So you bet against USC? Yeah,

745
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: I mean when it comes to now, now with all

746
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: this online legal betting, when it comes to when it

747
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: comes down to the money, you gotta go with where

748
00:40:56,000 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: you think you're gonna win. About who you want? Why

749
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 1: you still have all your money? Yeah, try to hold

750
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 1: on to it. Uh hey, great to talk to you.

751
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 1: Are you being um included in conversations as the sounding

752
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: board for who should be USC's next head coach. I've

753
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,360
Speaker 1: been talking to a bunch of folks and giving input

754
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: here and there, and um, yeah, I've been as bold

755
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 1: as involved as they'll let me be. Okay, do you

756
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 1: want to Is James Franklin the front runner? As I've reported?

757
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: I think I think there's a lot of front runners

758
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: right now, and that's why I like where we're sitting.

759
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 1: You know, we had the first hot seat open up.

760
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 1: You can't have a lot of front runners, Carson. You

761
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: can have a front runner. You've got Penn State, You've

762
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: got Iowa State, You've got Cincinnati, You've got a wild

763
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: card like uh Mike Tomlin. That that if Mike Tomlin

764
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Speaker 1: wants out and and I think, you know, at the

765
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: end of the day, there is not a direct that's

766
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:03,279
Speaker 1: the guy everybody's pointing their fingers at. There's a there's

767
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 1: a lot of great options. Has Has Mike Tomlin hypothetically

768
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:12,879
Speaker 1: been discussed? I'm sure he has. I think I think

769
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: anybody is a potential candidate right now. And that's what's

770
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: so great about the job is it can lure an

771
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 1: NFL guy and it's tired of their current situation and

772
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: worried about has been Roethlisberger gone? Has he done? Who

773
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: are we going to draft? I have? Does Mike Tomlin

774
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 1: have to start over with a first round young rookie quarterback?

775
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: You know, everybody's on the table being that that job

776
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: is so big and so coveted. Um, you know, I

777
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: think I think there's a bunch of people that are

778
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,320
Speaker 1: in the discussion. And once we get to week sixteen,

779
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 1: seventeen to the NFL season and the college football season

780
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 1: is over, we'll have a direct front runner. Wow, Okay,

781
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 1: that's pretty spicy with Mike Tomlin. There, like the first

782
00:42:53,000 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 1: you've heard of that? Yeah? Yeah, uh uh, I think

783
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: it's the first. A lot of people have probably heard

784
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:13,160
Speaker 1: about that. Okay, I think he's a great option. I

785
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: state years that'd be great. I mean, you get Mike

786
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 1: Tomlin at USC. Okay, better job, and now take off

787
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 1: your your trojan hat U USC or LSU. Oh, I

788
00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: don't think it's even close. I think LSU is a

789
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: great job, no doubt about it. But there's only one USC.

790
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: There's only one school that has the tradition, the history,

791
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 1: the first round draft picks the All American playing in

792
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: the coliseum, one of the most nostalgic from the Olympics

793
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: to Super Bowls. You name it UM in Los Angeles.

794
00:43:50,120 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's the best job. I think

795
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,280
Speaker 1: it's Also when you compare the PAC twelve to the SEC,

796
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,320
Speaker 1: there's no doubt there's no comparison from a talent level

797
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:02,440
Speaker 1: between each school and both of those conferences. But the

798
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 1: easiest routes the national championship is not through the SEC.

799
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: The easiest route to win a national championship, which if

800
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 1: you take that job at USC, the bar was set

801
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 1: extremely high with Pete Carroll and his success, so you

802
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 1: will only be judged on national championships at USC, and

803
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 1: right now there is a much easier route to playing

804
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,839
Speaker 1: in the National Championship through the playoffs in the Pact

805
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: twelve than there is an sec. He's college football insider.

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00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: Carson Palmer got it, you know, USC booster. We got

807
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 1: to change your title. It's not former NFL quarterback Heisman

808
00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: Trophy winner. You're now an insider. I'm a man of

809
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,200
Speaker 1: many hatstand. Yes you are, but you only have one on,

810
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 1: only one on today. May see me in the new

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Speaker 1: one next week. All right, buddy, Thank you, Carson. Great

812
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,920
Speaker 1: to talk to. Thank you. That's Carson Palmer.