1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,359 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,879 Speaker 1: on Home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,640 Speaker 1: Welcome back. I'm Dale Ally, he is Matt Williamson and 4 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: this is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio and Matt. 5 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: A week ago, you mentioned that there have been fifty 6 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: nine different quarterbacks to start start games in the league 7 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: this week, not just play, but start games. Sorely for 8 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: Arizona was fifty nine because he was a Monday Night 9 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: or whatever. Right, Well, with Stidham starting, that would make sixty. Yeah, 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,480 Speaker 1: is there any other new ones this week? Uh? Well, 11 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: I don't think so. There'll be some new old ones. 12 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 1: Bridgewater's gonna start, have Mike White's gonna start. But I 13 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: wonder how many quarterbacks have taken a snap is here? 14 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: I bet it's it's gonna It's gonna be almost seventy, 15 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: if not more. I mean, you know what he considered 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: Taysom Hill, what he considered the guy in Yeah, don't 17 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: know about Taysom Hill. I mean any wildcat. I mean, 18 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: I'm a direct snapped to Derrick Henry doesn't count. No. 19 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: But if you throw, if you regularly throw passes ten 20 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: passes this year, which actually he's done that in New Orleans. Yeah, 21 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 1: he might count I think the quarterback. But I'm just 22 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: I'm looking here at Mark Sessler's quarterback index on NFL 23 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 1: dot Com. I assume he's gonna include car. He probably 24 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: didn't this thing one hour ago and get it up right. 25 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 1: So all kinds of movement this thing this week, I 26 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,320 Speaker 1: can imagine. I mean, guys like Wilson got benched. So 27 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: you know, well, he still has Wilson in here at 28 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: thirty two, down two spots. He's he said he's the 29 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: worst quarterback of the league. Can't argue that. You can't 30 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: argue that. I guess we can play. Where would Mike 31 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 1: White go when we get to me. He's better than that, 32 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: He better than thirty two Zack Wilson at thirty one. 33 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: I was asked today, is Wilson going to go down 34 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: as a Jamacus Russell Ryan Leaf. Certainly I'm not quite there, 35 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: but I don't have much argument in his favor at 36 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: this point. Yeah, at thirty one, he has Russell Wilson. 37 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: Wow to Wilson's at the bottom of the are stuck 38 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: on the island together. That might be a little rough. 39 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: He's playing in thirteen games. I mean, I know how 40 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: bad it is. Don't get me wrong. He has twelve 41 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 1: touchdown passes in thirteen games. Um, they don't score points. 42 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: He's horrendous and the offensive surrendous. He's not entirely the 43 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: only noblem So riddle me this. If the forty Niners 44 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:43,239 Speaker 1: traded out Purdy for Russell Wilson, they would be just fine. 45 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: They would be a better team than they are. The 46 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: Brock Purty stuff is getting a little crazy. We're going 47 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: to lose our mind when his name comes up, because 48 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: it's his name should be close to coming up, and 49 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: it isn't. But that's my point on Wilson. I mean, 50 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: if he was in the perfect environment, I don't think 51 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: we'd be saying he's I can't put Russell Wilson behind 52 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: the guy at thirty. I mean there's this trace McSorley exactly. 53 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: He should honestly, he should be thirty two. I mean 54 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: there's there's two or three non stars. In five games 55 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: this year, he complete passes, has completed fifty two point 56 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: seven percent of his passes. He's averaging five point two 57 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: yards per passe attempt, with no touchdown passes and four interceptions, 58 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,200 Speaker 1: plus he has two fumbles, and again he's quarter may 59 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: not be on a team next year. He is not 60 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 1: an NFL quarterback, you know, like to be frank. I 61 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: mean I would rather play the Ravens with Huntley than 62 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. Yeah, you know what I mean. I mean, 63 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 1: it's cute to put him thirty one. He's horrendous, he's 64 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: fun to pow on, but he's better than these non quarterbacks. 65 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: I mean, would the Commanders be better off with Russell Wilson? Maybe? 66 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: You know he has Tyler Huntley down a spot, so 67 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: the hunt the Huntley train has slowed considerably. He's been 68 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: exposed for what he is, which is a fine cheap 69 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: backup to lamar At Russell Wilson better than this too, 70 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:12,520 Speaker 1: Malick Willis, he's an no quarterback too. I mean the 71 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 1: Titans would be better off with Russell Wilson. Malick Willis 72 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: was supposed to be taking a red shirt year this year, 73 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: not starting games down the stretch hoping to get you 74 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: into the playoffs. He's averaging four point five yards per 75 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: past attempt. Four point five yards. Man, I mean I 76 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: now have him, and I think we all do. I 77 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 1: liked Wilson better than pick it coming out or will 78 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: Williams or Willis. I got Wilson pickt on the mind 79 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: for whatever reason, and I was wrong, you know. I mean, 80 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: his athleticism and a lore around draft time was really 81 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: intriguing to me. But it's pretty clear while he's why 82 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 1: he's a third round pick, but they don't let him 83 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: do anything. He's so far away, and and he's also 84 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: in the environment where we don't don't have any receivers. 85 00:04:55,800 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 1: Receivers give it to Henry. They have a formula. He 86 00:04:58,600 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: may end up having a great career, maybe a better 87 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: career than Picket, but boy is he far away. At 88 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: seven up, four spots, Desmond Ritter, who's averaging five point 89 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: three yards per pastep, I mean he was okay against okids, 90 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:15,840 Speaker 1: a little bit better. He gets the ball to London. 91 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: I give him some credit for that. Again. I mean, 92 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: I'm not a Russell Wiltonson supporter. He's better than all 93 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 1: these guys we've talked. Yeah, you know. Yeah, At twenty 94 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: six down a spot is Davis Mills. Fine, I mean 95 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: I think that is who he is, right, fourteen touchdowns, 96 00:05:31,960 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 1: thirteen interceptions, seven funds. Let's he's he's a guy that Okay, 97 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: if we had the he's he's a backup starting games 98 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: for the Houston Texas. He's gonna be Minshew, you know, 99 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: a good backup. You know, probably get a little better, 100 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: probably ends up on a bunch of teams for his 101 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: career at twenty five. Is Nick Foles? He maybe should 102 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: be thirty one. Like he average four point nine yards 103 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: per past attempted that game the other day he he 104 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 1: took like seventy two sacks or three interceptions. Yeah, he's looking, 105 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: he's watching it the rush. Yeah, he's just he's in 106 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: the thirties for me. I mean mc sorley is worse. Really, 107 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 1: these guys are all like should be like forty and 108 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: down in the world the people walking the planet. He's 109 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: not a top forty quarterback. Like if Mason Rudolph had 110 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: to start this week for the Colts. He's better than 111 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 1: all these guys, with the exception of Russell Wilson. Russell 112 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: Wilson is different. Oh is mac Jones holding steady? I 113 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: mean who's worse, Zach Wilson or mac Jones. I mean 114 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: that's the company he should be keeping right now. I 115 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: mean their career is not over. They're both first round 116 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: picks and they flashed. But that's the neighborhood Max going 117 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: right now, and I can't I can't put it on 118 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: him though. No absolutely, I mean they're not giving him 119 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: any help, No, absolutely not. But he needs help at 120 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:03,040 Speaker 1: three and this guy just got Ben Taylor heineke. Okay, Carson, 121 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:06,479 Speaker 1: where's Carson Wentz fall in this? You put Wentz or 122 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: Mike White in this neighborhood? Probably? Yeah, they're better than 123 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 1: the non quarterbacks. Yeah, and we named about six or 124 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: seven non quarterbacks. Uh. At two down a spot, DeShawn Watson, 125 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,480 Speaker 1: he's actually he's actually played worse than this. Yeah, his 126 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: numbers and his he started much higher than this, because well, 127 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: here's here's what he was three years ago. I mean, 128 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: here's what he is right now. Would it shock you 129 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: if he has a really good game in either one 130 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 1: of these last two, like an old school Watson at 131 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,559 Speaker 1: this point, yes, yeah, at this point in four games, 132 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: he's completed fifty seven point seven percent of his passes 133 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: for seven hundred and three yards. This isn't four games 134 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: five point seven yards per pass attempt. He's the only 135 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: one that was worse than right, two touchdown passes, three interceptions, 136 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: he's rushed for a hundred yards and he has a 137 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: rushing touchdown. He's not even like playmaking. No, he's he 138 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: looks lost and he's I'm not predicting. This wouldn't break 139 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: my heart if it happened. That trade might be a 140 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson trade. I mean, I expect him to be 141 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: a much better football player next season, no question. But 142 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: there's no he's not the savior, not the way, not 143 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:20,239 Speaker 1: looking how he's played thus far, he doesn't look anything 144 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: like the Shawn Watson. And will he get it back 145 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: after seven hundred days of rest? And oh, by the way, 146 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: he's had some things going on in his life. I 147 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: saw a story from out of Cleveland last night that 148 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 1: said that he checked off a something that he can show. 149 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: He showed he can be a bad weather quarterback? Did he? 150 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:47,679 Speaker 1: It wasn't horrific. He was fourteen an interception. It's not 151 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 1: like he went out there. Kenny Pickett did more to 152 00:08:50,080 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: show that he could be a bad weather quarterback than 153 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: DeShawn Watson did. I mean it was awful, awful weather 154 00:08:55,040 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: and he wasn't. But they scored ten points. Checking the 155 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: box with a good running game. Has he ever played 156 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 1: in cold weather. Yeah, the Clemson at one. This is 157 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: how bad things are. One up six spots. Sam Donald, 158 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: that's right, I have him. He definitely belongs ahead of 159 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: these these guys. But it just shows you what's starting 160 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: this week as we head into the into week seventeen 161 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: season worthy of that. We talked yesterday Matt about why 162 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: scoring being down across the league. This is why. This 163 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: is why the best quarterback in the league with Sam Donald, 164 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,640 Speaker 1: we've been brought at Baker Mayfield. He should be pretty close. 165 00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: I mean, just because he has a one good game, 166 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 1: he's probably nineteenth or whatever. I think Mike White would 167 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 1: be in this neighborhood, you know, is he a great quarterback? 168 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: Of course, not at twenty Kenny Pickett, all right, I 169 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 1: mean we would take I mean I might have him 170 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: a little higher. I mean Mayfield, Mins, there's a name 171 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: or two they're out there that aren't wonderful. But I 172 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: can't fight him on this. I mean, I think that's safe. 173 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:07,600 Speaker 1: And if you told me on we talked about the 174 00:10:07,640 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: end of before the season started, if he's quarterback in 175 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: the league by the end of the year, you take it, right. Well, 176 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: according to these rankings anyways, the best quarterback in the league, 177 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: including Mac Jones. I don't think any of the rookie 178 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: class last year was the best quarterback. And after Christmas, 179 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: I think Mac Jones ended up like fifteenth or sixteen something. 180 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: He got way too high. Yeah, but I mean the 181 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: end of the season was not good for him. He 182 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: was dropping at nineteen up seven spots. Is Baker Mayfield? 183 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's probably one of the best 184 00:10:37,400 --> 00:10:39,839 Speaker 1: thirty two on the planet. If you asked me right now, 185 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:41,800 Speaker 1: would you rather if you had to win this game 186 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: going into Baltimore this week, would you rather have Kenny 187 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: Pickett or Baker Mayfield. I'm taking Kenny Pickett. I think 188 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: he'll I think Baker Baker and Sam will they be 189 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: opening day starters next year. Well, there's a lot of 190 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: teams that don't have quarterbacks. Matt and I think they 191 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: signed Trabisky deals probably probably picked in a similar neighborhood, 192 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: and I agree, you get more and more chances. They've 193 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: put a little bit. Donald just played way better than 194 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:13,040 Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield has. This sheet was overall like and you 195 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: saw them playing the same offense, and Darnald has been 196 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,560 Speaker 1: much better. Donald's was a much better panther than the field, 197 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: without question. I don't know what to make the mayfield 198 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: versus Broncos. I mean, I don't think it was him 199 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: lighting the world on the most disheveled. He's still a 200 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: guy that any any moment could go out and fumble 201 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: four times in a game or three interceptions. I would 202 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: be intrigued if Stafford hung it up. If the Rams 203 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: said let's sign a one year deal and McVeigh tailored 204 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: things to him, I'd be curious. Can he maintain quarterback 205 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: eighteen to twenty two neighborhood? I'm sure he could do that. 206 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it's a bar. Yeah, I 207 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: don't think it's ever to be a top ten guy. 208 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: Bar eighteen up a spot Andy Dalton. Same thing with 209 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: Andy Daltons. Kenny is Kenny Pickett? You give me a 210 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: who's starting for your gry team this week? I'm taking 211 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett over Andy Daltons. That's the best example I've 212 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: heard yet of why is scoring down because Andy Dalton 213 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: is the eighteen right now? I mean, if you ask 214 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: the NFL league office, Hey, Roger, who do you want 215 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 1: to be? Where do you want Andy Dalton to be? 216 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: On the pecking order will be in good shape. Eighteen 217 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: is not alright, Eighteen is not good. Uh. At seventeen 218 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: is Derek Carr, and he is now bench bench. Cinnamon 219 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: is below this for sure. So we just lost one 220 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: more capable one. At sixteen is Gardner Minshew. Okay, mm hmm. 221 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. I'm a Minshew believer. But that's 222 00:12:52,920 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 1: probably as high as his stock and possibly I'm just 223 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: trying to think who definitely should be ahead of him though, 224 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: Car probably yeah, I mean, maybe Russell Wilson, I mean, 225 00:13:07,320 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: maybe the Shawn Watson, like some of the guys that 226 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 1: have been really successful. At fifteen is Daniel Jones. I'm 227 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 1: cool with that. I mean, what if he had receivers. 228 00:13:19,120 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's the second coming, but they're probably 229 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 1: gonna make the playoffs. I would imagine he'll be back. 230 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 1: Here's the thing about Daniel Jones this year. Yeah, okay, 231 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 1: so he has in he's played fifteen games this year. Yeah, 232 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: he just topped three thousand passing yards. Not so great. 233 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: He's from touchdown all right, and he's throwing to nobody's 234 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: but he's played every snap. He's played every snap, and 235 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: he's throwing thirteen touchdown passes in today's NFL, and he's 236 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: he's in a state like this is a third year guy. 237 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: He should be getting it by now, and I think 238 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 1: he is. I think he's getting better, but this might 239 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: be who he is. That's the ceiling. I don't know 240 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: that he can even get to the Cousins level. Yeah, 241 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:02,479 Speaker 1: you know that's all said and done. Like if if 242 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: if by year three Kenny Pickett was putting up these numbers, 243 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: you'd be like, oh no, you gotta try to find 244 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: something better than that. Yeah, right, like my stat pack 245 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 1: in two thousand and twenty four and Kenny pickets on 246 00:14:14,559 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: pace to get the three thousand yards you know, in 247 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: sixteen touchdowns, it it's not anymore at fourteen down A 248 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:32,240 Speaker 1: spot is Tom Brady. That still might be being a 249 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: little kind of over him. But I think whenever if 250 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 1: everyone was healthy, the Kyler's and Lamar, I think Brady, 251 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: I mean, he won't hold the ball, and he's on past. 252 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: He's on he's on par to break his own record 253 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: that he's set last year for the most passing attempts 254 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,000 Speaker 1: in a season. They were in the ball the least 255 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: of anyone the league and the most completions, and he's 256 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: thrown for yards, everything out of his hands in two seconds. 257 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: The rumors today are he's gonna go with Josh in Vegas. 258 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: Have had it. I mean, I don't think that goes well. 259 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 1: Do you think he plays next year? I mean, he 260 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: doesn't have a wife bugging him saying not to right. 261 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: If that's what the Raiders want to do, have at it. 262 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,119 Speaker 1: I mean, you'll sell jerseys and tickets and great fantastic. 263 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: You won't win any football games. You will not be 264 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: a contender. Their lines not much back. All right, here 265 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: we go. Matt thirteen up three spots is brock Purty. 266 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: I don't think he's better than Tom Brady. Come on, 267 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,360 Speaker 1: I think the Niners would be okay with Tom Brady. 268 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: In seven games this year, he's pat He's thrown for 269 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: nine twelve yards. Yeah, let's not get carried away with 270 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: his brock Purty stuff. He'd be like minshoe Land for me. 271 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: He's he'll make he'll make money the rest of his life. Yeah, 272 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: but he's playing in a stacked offense. Again, if they 273 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: had Tom Brady, they would be a better team. Yeah. 274 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: I mean this addition at Point Garden at the McCaffrey. 275 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: If car was on this team, Russell Russell Wilson were 276 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: on this team, they would be putting they'd be putting 277 00:16:08,280 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: up better numbers. And what brock Purty is absolutely I 278 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: don't know about Watson because he hasn't played in so long. 279 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: I can't quite lump him at twelve. As Jared Goffe 280 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: to me, you can't come like brock Purty and Jared 281 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: Goff should not be in the same conversation. I kind 282 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 1: of feel like twelve and upper the legit NFL starting 283 00:16:25,240 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: quarterbacks right now. That not that he golf can't be replaced, 284 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:32,520 Speaker 1: but he's had a good year. You know, in Pro 285 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: Bowls don't meet anything, but he could end up on 286 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl roster like these top twelve to me 287 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 1: or probably pretty set. And eleven is Aaron Rodgers. I 288 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:45,560 Speaker 1: don't know where I rank him. I think he's playing 289 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: better than he was earlier in the year, but he 290 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: would be in this neighborhood. Numbers aren't great, that's for sure. 291 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 1: At ten is justin fields. I would put those guys. 292 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: I would put Rogers, Rogers overfields, have Goff ahead shields 293 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,719 Speaker 1: to Here's the thing with fields. His wild plays are 294 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: wild plays he can, absolutely, but he's starting ten interceptions 295 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,239 Speaker 1: and he's fumbled fifteen times, carries a ball time. He's 296 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: gonna rush for a thousand yards. That's great, that's great, 297 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: but it's not quarterbacking. He also doesn't have anything around him. 298 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: I mean I would be happy if I was the 299 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: Bears to build around him, absolutely, absolutely, Yeah, especially the 300 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 1: way it started. But if if she's not better at 301 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: football right now, if for the forty Niners, um, what's uh, 302 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: Lance doesn't get hurt and he has this kind of 303 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:44,600 Speaker 1: year for the forty Niners passing yards or sixteen touchdowns 304 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 1: and ten interceptions, they're not happy with at No, not 305 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: the passing stuff, because you're gonna throw the football. That 306 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: would hold him back. At nine up two spots as 307 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,919 Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins had a very good year. I mean I 308 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:05,400 Speaker 1: hesitant to ever say that, but he's had a really 309 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: good year. Is he better than Aaron Rodgers? Probably not, 310 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: but he's had a better year. Uh. And eight up 311 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:16,160 Speaker 1: a spot is Geno Smith. Oh I'd have golf over Gino. Yeah. 312 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: Guys that have come from the grave and Gino has 313 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: come back to earth. Gino is tailing off here, towards 314 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: the end of the season. Yeah, I don't know that 315 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: out of Geno. I would not have. The Steelers need 316 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: Gino Smith to regain that magic this week against the Jets, 317 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 1: and he hasn't been horrible since. But that was a 318 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: nice little run that probably will be the highlight of 319 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: his career at seven down A spot is toa two. 320 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 1: Is not better than Rogers, No, I'm much sure he's 321 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 1: better than Cousins. We just saw two and Rodgers on 322 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,600 Speaker 1: the same football field on Sunday. No, I know one 323 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: was one didn't throw any interceptions, the other one through 324 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: three with the game on the line. You probably didn't 325 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: see this, but I retweeted Warren sharp if and what 326 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 1: Warren did was this was to his numbers before he 327 00:19:01,960 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: smacked his head on the on the turf and here 328 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: we're after and it was night and day and he 329 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: almost did look like two different players. But what does 330 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: that mean for quarterback ranks? Like if you can't stay 331 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 1: healthy and he couldn't stay healthy, Obama, you know, like 332 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: he may not play again this year. He may not 333 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: play again this year. Were you putting Teddy? Were you 334 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: putting Teddy Bridgewater in this hierarchy? Mike white Land, um 335 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 1: pick it Land, I'd rather play against Bridgewater than pick it, 336 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: though I've never been a Bridgewater. Yeah, I mean I 337 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:36,919 Speaker 1: wish any a little more aggression. I mean Teddy's Dalton 338 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: to me at six up two spots, is Dak Prescott 339 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: played great, really good player. I'm cool with that. That's 340 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:49,639 Speaker 1: a twelve interceptions. Yeah, he's turned it over. Five Is 341 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence up to spots. I wouldn't have him over 342 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: back yet, but I get it. He's had like one 343 00:19:55,800 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: bad game in two months. At four is just and Herbert. 344 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: He's he's a tough one for me to evil this year, 345 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: Like the last two games they've won. He isn't throwing 346 00:20:07,119 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: a touchdown pass. He's touchdown passes in games. I'm a huge, 347 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: huge fan. But and I forget who described this is 348 00:20:18,520 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: he's very happy to take the completion, which if it's 349 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: your and what I mean by that is his first 350 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:30,280 Speaker 1: read is open. He's a throw to him, even if 351 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: the second read might be thirty yards. And Brady does that, 352 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: I mean, like, there's nothing wrong with that. If you 353 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: complete your first read time and time again, you will 354 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: be a tremendous tremendous quarterback. But I also don't know 355 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: how he's being coached because there's a lot of concern 356 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 1: with their lack of aggression. I would say, in that 357 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,680 Speaker 1: offensive scheme and there they don't run the ball at all. 358 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: He's always under pressure. I mean even in that last game, 359 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: he was under pressure at time and he said Alan 360 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 1: and William for like a hundred snaps this year. At 361 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: three is Joe Burrow. Okay, it'd be two for me, 362 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 1: but splitting hairs. At two is Josh Allen, and one 363 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: is then Patrick Mahomes. Where would you put hurts Um 364 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: he's above two. I think he's two this year, all 365 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 1: things considered, I probably have him like four or five. 366 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: Wouldn't over Laurence. I think he's played really well behind Lawrence, 367 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: pretty great Dak Verse. Hurts is a tough one for me. 368 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 1: Hurts Is had the better year. I mean there's no 369 00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: question he's had a better year. I mean I saw 370 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: hurt some person and he was drop them phenomenal and 371 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: he's been phenomenal all year. He'd be top five for me, 372 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: may be behind Burrow Allen. Of my homes, he's certainly 373 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 1: better than two. Yeah, it'd have to be over Lawrence, 374 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 1: you know, for guys are in that name. I think 375 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: Burrow is playing well, but he's still we'll throw the 376 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:04,880 Speaker 1: ball in New Harms way every he'll force it into Bashel. 377 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: Herbert's a lot more reserved with, you know, letting it fly. Yeah, 378 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,600 Speaker 1: it's interesting. I you look at that who's starting right 379 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: now in the NFL, and it's like, what the hell 380 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: is going on in this league? Yeah? I mean people 381 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: like Watson and Kyler and that you would think would 382 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: definitely be in the top ten right now aren't around. Yeah, 383 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: they're just not playing Lamar and you know some of 384 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 1: them aren't good. You know, car was worse than expected. 385 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: People will talk again the biggest reason why scoring is 386 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 1: down across the league. Read through that list. It's a 387 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,359 Speaker 1: huge part of it. Yeah, without question, and keeping these 388 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: guys healthy. He's gonna have to be a huge offseason 389 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 1: priority for the league too. You don't want sixty guys starting, No, 390 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: you do not want that for sure. You start getting 391 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: into twenty five below, they're not NFL starters without a doubt. Interesting. Yeah, 392 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: it's been an odd year, man, Can you pick it 393 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: could be a little bit higher. I don't think he 394 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: could be any lower given something. I mean considering the 395 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:02,200 Speaker 1: mcsorley's and those dudes world right quarterbacks. I mean, where 396 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: were Trabisky be? Not not much different, not much different 397 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: two or something like that. 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