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Speaker 1: Welcome one and all to the Hammer Territory Podcast. Is

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Speaker 1: it a new era of the Hammer Territory New intro video.

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Speaker 1: We've got a new season upon us and plenty to

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Speaker 1: talk about. Wherever you are and wherever you are listening.

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Speaker 1: Thanks once again. I don't know if we can say

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Speaker 1: that enough, but thanks again for joining us. Of course,

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Speaker 1: it's you know, been another newsworthy week for all the

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Speaker 1: wrong reasons when it comes to the Braves. But on

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Speaker 1: Thursday there was plenty to actually talk about when it

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Speaker 1: comes to the Braves performance on the field. And that's

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Speaker 1: exactly what we're going to do in Stephen, as we

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Speaker 1: look at you know where the Braves turn from here

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Speaker 1: now after another, you know, big loss when it comes

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Speaker 1: to their One thing that certainly stands out is okay.

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Speaker 1: We know that the offense is going to have to

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Speaker 1: scramble once again to make up for the locks of jurism,

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Speaker 1: the loss of jerks and profar, but it's the pitching

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Speaker 1: for that reason we're ready to mix it up, engineered

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Speaker 1: by fasten All. So Stephen, when I say that we're

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Speaker 1: ready to talk, put the spotlight back on the pitching.

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Speaker 1: That's what took center stage on Thursday. Both Chris Sale

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Speaker 1: as well as Spencer Strider took them down against the

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Speaker 1: defending AL champion Toronto Blue Jays. Now, originally it was

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Speaker 1: supposed to be Dylan Cease for the Blue Jays and

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Speaker 1: what would have been a really awesome pitching matchup to

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Speaker 1: see between him and Sale. But it was a pretty

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Speaker 1: critical game to pay attention to because I while there

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Speaker 1: are plenty of members of the offense who are critical

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Speaker 1: to the Brave success, when you start looking at Okay,

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Speaker 1: namely the five Braves who got to perform well for

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Speaker 1: this team to be a true contender once again, both

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Speaker 1: Chris Sale and Spencer Strider are definitely within that top hailve.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean Chris Stale is obviously the ace of staff,

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Speaker 2: so it starts it ends with him and with Chris specifically.

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Speaker 2: All I'm looking for in spring training is stay healthy.

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Speaker 2: That's it. I don't care about results, I don't care

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Speaker 2: about runs, e er, I don't care. I don't care

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Speaker 2: about any stats. Just literally make it out of spring

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Speaker 2: training healthy and alive. At this point, and the way

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Speaker 2: the Breads are going, I don't know that either is

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Speaker 2: you know likely at this point. But let's just just

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Speaker 2: get Chris Sale to Atlanta on March twenty seventh, I

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Speaker 2: think is the day of opening there. Maybe March twenty eighth.

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Speaker 2: I can't remember. Get Chrysale to Atlanta on opening day,

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Speaker 2: and I'm happy. I don't care what. I don't care

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Speaker 2: how he looks on the way there. I know once

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Speaker 2: the game start, he's going to be good. So that's

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Speaker 2: Chris Sale. Spencer Strider is a little different. He's in

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Speaker 2: a little different category for spring training because while I

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Speaker 2: don't really care about his results, the process he's using

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Speaker 2: to get to those results matters quite a bit. Because listen,

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Speaker 2: Spencer Strider was not good last year, right, he pitched

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Speaker 2: one hundred and twenty five innings. He had like a

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Speaker 2: four and a half FIP, a four and a half RA.

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Speaker 2: You know, he was a back end starter last year.

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Speaker 2: I don't even think he reached one war in one

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Speaker 2: that's that's not the Spencer Strider where he used to.

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Speaker 2: So the conversation all, you know, all winter, especially when

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Speaker 2: the Braves did not add anybody on the in terms

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Speaker 2: You know, what's he gonna what's his stuff gonna look like?

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Speaker 2: Is it going to look like twenty twenty five Spencer

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Speaker 2: He's cooked. You know. I sent out a tweet at

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Speaker 2: some point it said something like there's just way too

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Speaker 2: And so he made his second He didn't start today.

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Speaker 2: He came in after sale pitch the first three innings,

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Speaker 2: It was a different level, and the stuff was sharper,

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Speaker 2: we don't have to draw any conclusion. We just need

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Speaker 2: to watch him pitch start to start and just see

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Speaker 2: And the progress he made from start one to start

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Speaker 2: everything just looked up now he did. The results weren't great.

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Speaker 2: I think you gave up three runs, But I don't

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Speaker 2: get I don't care about results for him. I care

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Speaker 2: the process today was much improved and a clear progress

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's I think the thing that's important to

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Speaker 1: take away to two perspectives here is that in this

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Speaker 1: area of social media where what gets clicks or what

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Speaker 1: There were so many many people who were climbing on

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Speaker 1: it's been a year since Spencer Strider had his injury,

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Speaker 1: so so that no longer is an excuse for him

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Speaker 1: like that, well, he's a complete failure. That's what social

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Speaker 1: just the fact that this was an improved performance from

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Speaker 1: Spencer Strider is you and I said it multiple times

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Speaker 1: each last year. One of the strengths, one of the

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Speaker 1: to redefine himself to make it work. And Spencer Strider

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Speaker 1: I want to make sure that I'm more in command

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Speaker 1: That was his focus, and that's exactly what has occurred.

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what occurred. I think that we continue to

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Speaker 1: Spencer Strider was satisfied with at a bit of heightened velocity,

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Speaker 1: which is exactly in line with what he said. So

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Speaker 1: I would have been on Spencer Strider over just about

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Speaker 1: redefine himself, that's fine. He may not throw ninety eight

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, I'm not there yet. I'm not ready

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Speaker 2: I'm saying, Like I just this is another data point.

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Speaker 2: The first start was one. This is number two. You know,

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Speaker 2: I don't anytime a pitcher says velocity is not the

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Speaker 2: it just is there's a very very clear correlation between

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Speaker 2: very important, especially to a guy like Spencer, because guys

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Speaker 1: But when you grow up.

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Speaker 2: With velocity, you really don't have to develop any of them. Well,

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Speaker 2: Spencer's had velocity, so you know, Spencer doesn't have like

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Speaker 2: Completely buy like the velocity, you know, is not is

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Speaker 2: not relevant, Like it's very relevant. It's usually not. It's

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Speaker 2: had my velocity back. But it's good to see ninety five,

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Speaker 2: ninety six, ninety seven. It's still not ninety eight ninety

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Speaker 2: He might not be let to go full either. The

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Speaker 2: velocity is very important. I don't know that he has

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Speaker 2: because it might come The rest of it might come

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Speaker 2: We don't know. So it was great to see. Again,

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Speaker 2: I don't care about the result. I don't care about

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Speaker 2: But it's great to see the process of the quality

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Speaker 1: of the year will start to see glimpses of them

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Speaker 1: on the mountain. But certainly want to focus on this

433
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Speaker 1: year and focus on being a contender. But one thing

434
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Speaker 1: that I do kind of see as a positive moving

435
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Speaker 1: forward is that we get through this year, we get

436
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Speaker 1: through the lockout, whatever have you. Just think about what

437
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Speaker 1: could be on the other side of that for this

438
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Speaker 1: Bravest team. You will have a J. Smith, Shav, Hirsht

439
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 1: and Waldrup and Spencer Schwellenbach all back and recovered healthy

440
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Speaker 1: from their injuries, and each one of them when they

441
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Speaker 1: win it before they went out with their injury, their

442
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Speaker 1: latest performance in the majors had either been somewhat breakout

443
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Speaker 1: performances or Spencer Swellembach clearly being one of the best

444
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Speaker 1: in the majors. Now, I know for each of them

445
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Speaker 1: it will have been a while since thrown, but they'll

446
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Speaker 1: be back healthy. You got each of those guys in

447
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: their mid to early twenties. But on top of that,

448
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: you'll then have JR. Ritchie, You'll have cam Kaman Eddy

449
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 1: did hear for Wyntes Lucas braun Owen Murphy coming up?

450
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Speaker 1: You see where I'm going with this. It's not only

451
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Speaker 1: the fact that within a year or so are the

452
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Speaker 1: Braves gonna have some really quality pitching depth, but it's

453
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Speaker 1: also gonna mostly be on the doorsteps or in the majors,

454
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Speaker 1: And that is a really, really lucrative spot for a

455
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Speaker 1: team to deal from when it comes to the pitching

456
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Speaker 1: depth that we know that the Braves team values, especially

457
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Speaker 1: one that deals with the injury of the Braves. But also,

458
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: you know, other teams really like quality pitching prospects that

459
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Speaker 1: are near major league ready in potential trades. So again,

460
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Speaker 1: I know this is a lot of ifs, but with

461
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Speaker 1: the performances we're seeing from Richie and others this spring,

462
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Speaker 1: and what we've seen when they were healthy from Smith,

463
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Speaker 1: shab or Waldrop as well as Swillenbach, this Brave's pitching

464
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Speaker 1: depth could really start to emerge as being one of

465
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Speaker 1: the better collections in baseball over the next twelve to

466
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Speaker 1: eighteen months.

467
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean some of so much of it depends

468
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Speaker 2: on health. And you know, I don't it's pessimistic to say,

469
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Speaker 2: but it is true. Like you have ten or twelve

470
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Speaker 2: of them, and you kind of hope like two of

471
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Speaker 2: them make a contribution to the to the major league club.

472
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Speaker 2: Like that's just how it. Like I remember when the

473
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Speaker 2: Braves had a thousand pitching prospects, and like Max Freed

474
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Speaker 2: was basically the only one of that group that ever

475
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Speaker 2: kind of consistently became a major league starter. It looked

476
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Speaker 2: like Ian Anderson was going to do it for a minute,

477
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Speaker 2: but then he got hurt, kind of fell off. Same

478
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Speaker 2: with Soroca, same with Kyle Wright. Like you have so

479
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Speaker 2: many because so many are going to fail, and you

480
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Speaker 2: you hope that you get like two of them that

481
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Speaker 2: our mainstays in your rotation. And that's where I think

482
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 2: the Braves will be I think the Brads are going

483
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Speaker 2: to trade some of them. I think they're really useful

484
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Speaker 2: in trades because if you let all of them mature

485
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Speaker 2: to the majors, you're gonna lose so many of them

486
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Speaker 2: to injuries that if you can trade a few of

487
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Speaker 2: them while they're valuable, it's a way to lock in

488
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 2: some value out of that guy instead of hoping that

489
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Speaker 2: he stays healthy and productive. But you're right, I mean

490
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Speaker 2: they have it. They're really well set up, and then

491
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Speaker 2: they're going to have this draft in July where they're

492
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Speaker 2: probably going to add more talent in one draft than

493
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Speaker 2: they've added it and any drafted a long time. So

494
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Speaker 2: they're going to be very well set up. And I'm hoping.

495
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Speaker 2: You know, young pitching, young controllable pitching is very valuable

496
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Speaker 2: in the trade market. I hope they use some of

497
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Speaker 2: that in trades. I don't want to see all of

498
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Speaker 2: it make its way to the Atlanta because that means

499
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Speaker 2: they're taking all of that risk onto themselves instead of

500
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Speaker 2: trading in a way and getting other things they might need,

501
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Speaker 2: especially in seasons where you're contending, hopefully like twenty twenty six,

502
00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 2: Hopefully like we're about to have. But yeah, I mean

503
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Speaker 2: it's a good problem. It's a really good thing. It

504
00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 2: really sucks that a just miche Olber and herschel Waldrip

505
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Speaker 2: were hurt. Right now, think about how exciting the spring

506
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Speaker 2: would be if both of those guys were like in

507
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Speaker 2: camp and pitching and like, you know, everybody's kind of

508
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 2: remembering last year when both guys came up and were fantastic,

509
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:17,359
Speaker 2: and both guys kind of looked like they turned a

510
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Speaker 2: corner and you know, the future is bright there. You

511
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 2: do have to remember their pitching prospects and that most

512
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 2: of them are not going to pan out, but the

513
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Speaker 2: brains have enough of them now where you can reasonably

514
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Speaker 2: expect like one or two maybe if you get lucky

515
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:34,280
Speaker 2: three like really pan out and really start contributing to you,

516
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 2: you know, for a significant portion of you know, their

517
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 2: major league careers. But it's the farm system has very slowly,

518
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Speaker 2: and I mean very slowly, started like consistently. It's consistently

519
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 2: delivering high level pitching prospects that we haven't really seen

520
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Speaker 2: since the rebuild days. And I'm very curious to see

521
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Speaker 2: how it's gonna shake. I think A J. Smith Schalver

522
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 2: is probably my favorite out of the bunch. But there's

523
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Speaker 2: a lot of excitement about jer Richie. There's a lot,

524
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Speaker 2: like a lot of really smart people that I know

525
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 2: and that follow this stuff way closer than I do,

526
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Speaker 2: are really excited about Jared Richie. You know, he gets

527
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: a decent amount of ground balls, he gets a decent

528
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 2: amount of strikeouts. It's not the greatest command in the world,

529
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Speaker 2: but it's good enough. You know, I'm very curious to

530
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Speaker 2: see how some of the secondary stuff plays up in

531
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Speaker 2: the majors. But you know, Jared Richie has very quietly

532
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Speaker 2: because he got hurt. I mean, these guys got a

533
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 2: lot of Petrograd. Wouldn't be surprised at all if we

534
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Speaker 2: learned this year that Jared Richie is in that same

535
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Speaker 2: group with with Waldrop and aj Smith Schalver. We'll see.

536
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: But you're right, there's a lot of them, and they're

537
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Speaker 2: very close to the majors, and that adds to the value.

538
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Speaker 1: And for anyone who says, I know that there's being

539
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Speaker 1: talk out there that Alexandopolis is very protective of that

540
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Speaker 1: pitching depth. He's resistant to trade. It made no mistake

541
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Speaker 1: about it. No one knows better about the likelihood of

542
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Speaker 1: who and when of these pictures, the one, two or

543
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Speaker 1: three that will actually mean something to the Braves. No

544
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 1: one knows the who or when better than Alex Andhopolis

545
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 1: and his staff. Because for anyone who says, well, he's resistant,

546
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: he's not going to make these trades, that's not true.

547
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: Look him at Olson, look as well at Sean Murphy.

548
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Speaker 1: He traded multiple top pitching prospects in those deals. I

549
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: know that Shee lang Lears and others were involved in

550
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: those deals as well, but he traded multiple top pitching prospects,

551
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 1: at least for the Braves organization in those trades. But

552
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 1: he also traded ones that didn't pan out. So they

553
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: when we talk about you have the reason you have

554
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Speaker 1: so many is because so few will actually be quote

555
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 1: unquote hits. But to your point, they also not only

556
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: will trade them, but they know which ones to trade,

557
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: and that again is why it is such a strong

558
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: position to deal from when it comes to the reinforcements

559
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Speaker 1: that the Braves are going to continue to to get

560
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,800
Speaker 1: as time goes on. But with that being said, with

561
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Speaker 1: the fact that we've talked consistently about them losing Charlie Morton,

562
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: them losing Max Reid, so on and so forth, plus

563
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,240
Speaker 1: the injuries, it's never a bad thing to see in

564
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: the near future, you're gonna have a plethora of intriguing

565
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 1: arms near the majors or at the majors ready to

566
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Speaker 1: contribute that you're gonna be able to deal from. That's

567
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: only gonna make it easier to manage when it comes

568
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Speaker 1: to injuries and departures and time.

569
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and listen, that is a big part of it,

570
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: like who to trade. You know, I remember when we

571
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Speaker 2: had the first round of pitching prospects coming up, when

572
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Speaker 2: Alex kind of first got the job, and you had

573
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Speaker 2: all these guys, and you know, who are you gonna move?

574
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Speaker 2: And you know one of the guys they moved was

575
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Speaker 2: Joey Wentz, right, remember they I think Joey Wentz was

576
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Speaker 2: in the Shane Green.

577
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Speaker 1: Shade Green trade trade.

578
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Speaker 2: Yea. I think there was another one of the big

579
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Speaker 2: pitching prospects. Then. I can't remember exactly. There was a

580
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Speaker 2: whole series in that twenty nineteen season, especially when they

581
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Speaker 2: rebuilt the bullpen.

582
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Speaker 1: Tristan Back was a notable one at time.

583
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he got yeah, that's right.

584
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: Lanson and then Bruce Zimmerman was one as well, I believe,

585
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: and he went for Kevin Dolsman yep.

586
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Speaker 2: And so I do think they will trade some. The

587
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 2: problem right now is their major league staff has so

588
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: much injury risk. Like I kind of get it. I

589
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 2: get why you're hesitant to move the pitch because I mean,

590
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Speaker 2: I love Chris Sale, but Chris Sale can get hurt

591
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: if the wind blows too hard. Like Spencer Strider is

592
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 2: a you know, he's had two major elbow surgeries. Ronaldo

593
00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: Lopez just missed a whole season with his shoulder. Grant

594
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 2: Holmes has this elbow thing hanging out there that we

595
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 2: really haven't solved yet. We're just kind of hoping it

596
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: goes away. I understand being hesitant to trade some of

597
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 2: your pitching dep that is this close to major league ready.

598
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 2: If it was an A ball would be one thing.

599
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Speaker 2: But they have a number of really good pitchers like

600
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Speaker 2: in Triple A. So I get it. But there are

601
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Speaker 2: probably gonna have to trade some of it at some

602
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: point because you don't want all of this risk to

603
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Speaker 2: make it all the way to the majors and then

604
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,040
Speaker 2: get hurt. You want to trade it before it does that.

605
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: So we'll see what they do. But they are in

606
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: a good spot. They're in a much better spot than

607
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Speaker 2: even like last year when they had Darius all due

608
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: respect to these guys they had like Darius Vines and

609
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 2: Alan Winans and you know, Jared Schuster, like guys who

610
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 2: were like legitimately like nine or tenth starters on a

611
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 2: championship level team. Now they've got actual, like top prospects

612
00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 2: that can come in and hopefully produce. And I think

613
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: a number of these guys are gonna be asked to

614
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 2: produce in twenty twenty six. I don't think there's any

615
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: chance for getting to the next six months with zero

616
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: pitching injuries from this point forward. I mean, the odds

617
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 2: of that seem remote at best at this point. So

618
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Speaker 2: I think, no, I think, you know, I wouldn't be

619
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Speaker 2: surprised to see Fuintes again. I'm I think Jared Richie's

620
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 2: gonna be the first name called Owen Murphy wouldn't surprise me.

621
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Speaker 2: You know, there's some other ones that wouldn't surprise me.

622
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Speaker 2: And also I think we're gonna see a number of

623
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Speaker 2: these guys this year, and then of course we're gonna

624
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 2: get a j Smith Schaalber back at some point. We're

625
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 2: gonna get hursta Waltrip back at some point. So yeah,

626
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: I mean the future like it's very close with a

627
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 2: number of these guys, and it's going to be interesting

628
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 2: to see who emerges as the guy that's actually going

629
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Speaker 2: to be in the rotation, who's gonna be who's gonna

630
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: emerge as trade chips, and that can matter a lot

631
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: for this trade deadline. So it's it's something to watch.

632
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: Again. We go back to the great thing is is

633
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: that nothing that we have said changes. If you still

634
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 1: want to add a starter, which I just sign one

635
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: is so easy and nothing of this changes changes. As

636
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, if you sign one like a

637
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,479
Speaker 1: gi Alito or a zach Lttel, it only gives you

638
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 1: more comfort in making it easier on the depth that

639
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: you already have to be in a position for success,

640
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 1: which I think is an underrated part of development for

641
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 1: young arms is setting them up for success, stretching, finding

642
00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,120
Speaker 1: stretches where you can take spring training success and put

643
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: it into a solid start to the season. Sign somebody

644
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: that's out there. You haven't traded any of your depth

645
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: to get added value, but you've only made your young

646
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: pictures in a better position to succeed as we all

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Speaker 1: know this previous team wants to do. Stephen, anything else

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Speaker 1: from you as we wrap up this addition, Hey, a

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Speaker 1: positive addition, if you will, of the Hammer Territory podcast again.

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Speaker 1: Spencer Strider looked closer to himself on the mountain today,

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Speaker 1: making positive strides as well as the pitching staff overall. Stephen,

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Speaker 1: I'll say what I want to say. After you say

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Speaker 1: what you want to say, go go right ahead.

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Speaker 2: No, it was just it was funny positive strides.

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Speaker 1: But so we didn't really at all. That wasn't intended.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I know, I know you're beautiful. You're beautiful. So

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Speaker 2: we didn't get into the profiles at all tonight because

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Speaker 2: there's really no new updates. He's currently appealing and I

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Speaker 2: think the the Union filed a grievance, which is going

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Speaker 2: to be interesting. The appeal is almost certainly going to fail.

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Speaker 2: I think it is going to be one hundred and

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Speaker 2: six two games suspension. Alex has not talked yet. As

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Speaker 2: soon as Alex talks, well updated the players all got

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Speaker 2: asked about it. They went very diplomatic in all their answers,

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Speaker 2: which is not surprising. Also, they have to wait kind

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Speaker 2: of wait and see what happens on the appeal as well.

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Speaker 2: So it's tough for that. They're in a tough spot.

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Speaker 2: They can't just be brutally honest. So I really no

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Speaker 2: new updates on PROFAR. The big thing is gonna be

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Speaker 2: when Alex talks and if when Slash, if they make

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Speaker 2: a move in response, you know, we'll we'll talk about it.

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Speaker 2: But as of right now, nothing new has happened. That's

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Speaker 2: why it's not really a topic. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but with all this positive talk that we've had

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Speaker 1: about pitching, what I was gonna say is, whatever you

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Speaker 1: feel you need to do to bring about good luck

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Speaker 1: so that tomorrow we don't have another devastating news drop,

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Speaker 1: please do, please do. I will say this. I will

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Speaker 1: say this. I don't think he's any type of long

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Speaker 1: term answer or anything like that. Dominic Smith went deep today.

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Speaker 1: He now I believe has like an eleven hundred ops

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Speaker 1: in the spring. I'm not saying that that means he

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Speaker 1: should be the clear answer for the next two months,

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Speaker 1: but it's at least better for him to be producing

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Speaker 1: than not producing. So that's that's somewhat of a positive.

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Speaker 1: I think that what you saw today besides Gamo and

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Speaker 1: Brett Wisely being in the lineup, I think what you

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Speaker 1: saw Eli White and and and Brett Wisey being in

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Speaker 1: the lineup that you saw the other guys who are

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Speaker 1: going to likely be in your starting lineup, and Dominic

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Speaker 1: Smith was in there. So unless some type of move

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Speaker 1: is made, Ryan rallyan mountcast will come on down. Unless

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Speaker 1: there's some type of move is made, I think we

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Speaker 1: did see a bit of indication. But where the braves,

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Speaker 1: you know, are kind of positioning Dominic Smith right now?

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Speaker 2: And I'll say, although since it's kind of a positive

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Speaker 2: vibe show, I'll say one o things. Mike Kistrimsky has

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Speaker 2: been hitting the cover off the ball absolutely to start spring. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: he ended up bat against the lefty today and he

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Speaker 2: wrote like a hunter amount of the line drop of lefty.

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Speaker 2: It got caught. But yeah, again again I guess the lefty.

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Speaker 2: The dude is seeing the ball very well. I've been

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Speaker 2: super impressed with his swing. His contact has been fantastic,

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Speaker 2: he doesn't strike out. So if we want to kind

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Speaker 2: of continue the positive vibes, yeah, this has been fantastic

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Speaker 2: early on gott to keep him healthy and all that stuff,

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Speaker 2: but it's a good sign because he's I mean, he's

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Speaker 2: gonna play a lot more than he probably was going to,

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Speaker 2: you know, forty eight hours ago. So the fact that

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Speaker 2: he looks so good in spring has been a good sign.

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Speaker 1: We'll take all the good signs that we for Steven Tobert.

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Speaker 1: You could bind him at b Underscore Outliers on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: slash x. My name is Sean Coleman. You can find

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Speaker 1: me at stats sac Hammer Territory across all forms of

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Speaker 1: social media. Part of the Foul Territory family of podcast.

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Speaker 1: Until next time, go braves. We'll talk to you again

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Speaker 1: soon here on the Hammer Territory Podcast