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Get started now sign up. 10 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 1: Please use the promo code Colin so they know we 11 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: sent you. Please use the promo code Collins c O 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: L I N FanDuel sports Book App. Sign up. All right, 13 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: welcome to the Monday Morning Podcast. Mike Silver, longtime rider, 14 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: is going to be joining us in about fifteen minutes. 15 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: Let's start with the most exciting end of the day, 16 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: Green Bay holding on to beat the Baltimore Ravens and 17 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: backup quarterback Tyler Huntley, who's really incredibly fun to watch. 18 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: He's a backup to Lamar Jackson. He played very well. 19 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:14,480 Speaker 1: He's a handful So John Harbaugh may get some criticism. 20 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: We live in this world now, any coach going for 21 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: it on fourth down years ago as a hero and 22 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 1: now we crush him for analytics. I would have gone 23 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,759 Speaker 1: for it. Here's why. It's the end of a game. 24 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:28,240 Speaker 1: Green Bay's defense has struggled to stop Tyler Huntley. Situationally, 25 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 1: it's the end of a long drive and they're pretty gased, 26 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: and you've got him on the precipice of beating him 27 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: and not having to go to overtime against Aaron Rodgers. 28 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: You see what happened Thursday with the Chargers. You got 29 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: overtime with Patrick Mahomes, you got overtime with Aaron Rodgers, 30 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: got overtime with Tom Brady. Doesn't turn out, well, that's 31 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: the power of Aaron Rodgers. So I look at it 32 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: end of a game, Packers on the road, get him 33 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: to travel. They've been on the field a lot in 34 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: the second half. They're struggling to stop Tyler Huntley. He's 35 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: also a guy that can do things on script. He's 36 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 1: accurate off script, he's got a great tight end, some 37 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: real nice momentum on that drive. I would go for it. 38 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: You know, it used to be when coaches went for 39 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: it and fourth down we celebrated them now we crush them. 40 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: There are situations I would kick field goals. That wasn't 41 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: one of them. Never forget the situation was a tired 42 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: Packer defense that was struggling to stop Tyler Huntley. He 43 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: was playing with momentum and confidence. He's got a Hall 44 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: of Fame level tight end. I thought the Ravens lost 45 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: the game, but you'll never lose a locker room going 46 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: for it in that situation. These are alpha males, highly aggressive. 47 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: They didn't want to go to overtime against Aaron Rodgers either. 48 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 1: My second thought of the day is that we all 49 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: know the way it works with quarterbacks. There are some 50 00:02:54,240 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 1: teams that have great quarterback talent and great weapons, the Chargers, Buccaneers, 51 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: the Rams. There are teams that have very limited offensive 52 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: talent but great quarterbacks. Buffalo outside of Stefon Diggs, average 53 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: offensive line, you could use another receiver, average backs. And 54 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: then we know there are teams that have really really 55 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 1: good weapons and average quarterbacks. Cleveland and Minnesota. I mean, 56 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 1: Vikings have Adam thieland Dalvin Cook, justin Jefferson and you're 57 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: stuck with Kirk Cousins. Ask yourself this today, couldn't I 58 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: also throw the Dallas Cowboys into that. They no longer 59 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: throw the ball down the field. It's not the weapons. 60 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:44,160 Speaker 1: Their longest completion was Amari Cooper nineteen yards. Dak and dunk. 61 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 1: Since the first week of November has once again appeared 62 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: injury confidence play calling. You can't blame Kellen Moore, right, 63 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: everybody loved Kellen Moore. I mean, Zeke and Tony Pollard 64 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 1: aren't completely healthy, but they shouldn't have to be one 65 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: hundred percent to be able to engineer an offense. I mean, 66 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: we know the New York Giants are an abscessed tooth 67 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: of a franchise. This game was fairly competitive with eight 68 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: minutes to go, and I think Dak is getting into 69 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 1: that sort of Baker Mayfield Kirk Cousins category where the 70 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:24,360 Speaker 1: weapons and the old line is better than the quarterback. 71 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: Since the start of November, there have been four different 72 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:34,600 Speaker 1: instances when Dak Prescott is averaging six yards an attempt 73 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: and now teams are picking up on it, Teams don't 74 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: respect him. It's getting worse. So I've said this, there's 75 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: a handful of great quarterbacks in this league, and because 76 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: people like Dak Prescott, they try to nudge him and 77 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 1: move him toward that group. He's not in that group. 78 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: And with that, let's pivot to New England's Mac Jones, 79 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 1: who's finally struggled for the first time in seven or 80 00:05:00,520 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: eight weeks. You know, there's only six quarterbacks in this 81 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 1: league that, whether they're trailing or leading, they play the same. 82 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Tom Brady, Russell Wilson, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, 83 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: and Justin Herbert. To me, they're the super six. They're 84 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 1: either magnificently talented or they have so many snaps at 85 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:25,559 Speaker 1: center pre snap they can throw and everybody knows they're throwing. 86 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: There's six of them in the league. There's a bunch 87 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 1: of other really strong guys. There's moments. Joe Burrow has 88 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 1: some of those qualities. There are moments Kyler Murray has 89 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 1: some of those qualities. But Kyler Murray has struggled situationally 90 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: in two or three different games this year when he 91 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: trailed and had to throw in a big spot. So 92 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: it's not a surprise that Mac Jones struggled. He doesn't 93 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: look the same trailing either to twenty four other guys. Again, 94 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: it's Aaron, Brady, Russell, Wilson, Josh Allen, Mahomes, and Herbert. 95 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: I can't really tell if they're leading or their trailing. 96 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: But Mac Jones he's a better version of Tua. And 97 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: that's what's interesting about this league in quarterbacks is that 98 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: Twas won what six straight? Max won what seven of eight? 99 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: If you have a great defensive coach, Bill Belichick, Brian Flores, 100 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: and I feel like Tua is a lesser version of 101 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: mac Jones. Not dynamic, not overly powerful. Arm, doesn't make 102 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: a ton of big mistakes, although Tua did have a 103 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 1: pick six against the Jets. You can win a lot 104 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: of games in this league. You're not gonna win super Bowls, 105 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: but Mac Jones and TWA you can win a lot 106 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: of games. Between the two of them. I think they've 107 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:39,600 Speaker 1: won twelve of their last thirteen games. Great defense, don't 108 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: make mistakes, win close and so I've never already thought 109 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: of the Patriots as a team that would hoist a 110 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: trophy this year, but Miami and New England are proving 111 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: even limited quarterbacks, with the right defense, the right coach, 112 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: and a decent running game, you could win seventy percent 113 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: of your games in this league. You know what team 114 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: is fascinating to me the San Francisco forty nine ers. 115 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: So we all wrap our arms around Kyle Shanahan. We 116 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: like him, right The special teams of the Niners, that's 117 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: his responsibility, continue to be a problem. The defense is good, 118 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: but I can't give him a ton of credit for that. 119 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: It's not his side of the ball. And the offense 120 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 1: is only good with Jimmy Garoppolo. Aaron Rodgers is an 121 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: all time talent, sat for three years behind FARV, and 122 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: I'm not comparing Garoppolo to Farv, but Trey Lance. If 123 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo finishes this season and gets to the playoffs, 124 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: we'll have played one game and over two years. There's 125 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: a reason Trey Lance isn't playing. Jimmy Garoppolo's got the 126 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 1: locker room, got the momentum, and got the better game. 127 00:07:43,560 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: Right now, I think it's fascinating what do you do 128 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 1: with Jimmy Garoppolo, Because if you watch the Niners play, 129 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: they're going to go in as a lower NFC seed, 130 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: and you and I all know they're gonna give somebody fits. 131 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: It's going to be Green Bay, Tampa, the Rams, or Dallas. 132 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: I mean, they are physical on both sides, even at 133 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: wide receiver de Woll Samuel. The Niners are totally physical. 134 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: They're going to knock somebody off. Jimmy Garoppolo's got a 135 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: great opportunity as a road dog to knock somebody off. 136 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: Where are you gonna go with him? I mean, clearly 137 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: he's super close with George Kittle. Clearly the offensive line 138 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 1: Deebo Samuel. I mean he targets the right guys, He 139 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: gets into the right guys. I've said this before. He's 140 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: the unique quarterback. He's better in the two minute drill 141 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 1: than he is in the first quarter. He always starts 142 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: out a little slow, gains momentum and confidence, plays very 143 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: well in second halfs and Layton games and latent halfs. 144 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 1: I think it's fascinating. What do you do with Jimmy Garoppolo? 145 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: I mean, the bottom line is you go to camp 146 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,559 Speaker 1: next year. If he's taken you to the playoffs and 147 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: won a game, he's a starting quarterback. How much better 148 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 1: does Trey Lance have to play to beat Jimmy Garoppolo out. 149 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 1: Peter King suggested this to me about three weeks ago. 150 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 1: They're not going to trade him. You'd be crazy to 151 00:08:54,240 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: trade him. Go look at this League. Baltimore had to 152 00:08:57,040 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: play a backup quarterback today, Arizona this year's had to 153 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: play a backup quarterback. A lot of quarterbacks going down. 154 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: So I think my point with Jimmy Garoppolo, the special 155 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: teams aren't great. Kyle Shanahan doesn't get credit for the defense, 156 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: and he doesn't win without Jimmy Garoppolo. Can we all 157 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: admit this that Jimmy Garoppolo has got a lot more 158 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: leverage and a lot more power in this situation than 159 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 1: anybody wants to realize. He's a gamer. They don't win 160 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: unless he plays, period, all right. Mike Silver co authored 161 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: All Things Possible with Kurt Warner, which became the basis 162 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: for the movie American Underdog, which is opening Christmas Day, 163 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,959 Speaker 1: and it's going to do huge, huge numbers. I mean 164 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: not Spider Man numbers. Spider Man like broke the Internet, 165 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 1: broke the movie theaters and as somebody, Derek Thompson's a 166 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,920 Speaker 1: very funny fall a very smart guy from the Atlantic, 167 00:09:57,280 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: he said, Spider Man making two hundred and seventy million 168 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: at the box office in this era of movies is 169 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,760 Speaker 1: like Pedro Martinez having an era at one five during 170 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 1: the steroid era. So let me start. Let me start 171 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 1: with this. I am I like analytics, but I do 172 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: think there are moments that are situational. I think fourth 173 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: and four is hard against a good defense if you're 174 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. So there are moments. You know, the Chargers 175 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: before half, I would have probably kicked the field goal there. 176 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: But the rest time, I'm for it. I'm for going. 177 00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: We used to celebrate coaches who had the guts to 178 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 1: go for it. Now we kill them. But I agreed, 179 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: and my theory on the Ravens Packers was this Mike, 180 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: that Packer defense was on the field a lot in 181 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 1: the fourth and couldn't stop him. So I get a 182 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: gas defense for one play against the guy who can score. 183 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:52,040 Speaker 1: On script, off script, I agreed with hardball. I agreed 184 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: with the two weeks ago when you did it against 185 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:56,559 Speaker 1: the Steelers and said so publicly. And so a few caveats. 186 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 1: First of all, you and I would agree on this. 187 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 1: You have to decide what you feel before the outcome 188 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: reveals itself. So you and I like it, and we 189 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: like it regardless of outcome. Secondly, um, you know that 190 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: game wasn't over if they make that two point conversion. 191 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:14,840 Speaker 1: There were forty two seconds to go and they had 192 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,200 Speaker 1: a time out and Aaron Rodgers and you could ask 193 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: the Niners, you know, not over um. I would say 194 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: this analytics, And I'm not an analytics guy. I'm not 195 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: saying I'm anti. I'm just saying I don't study it, 196 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: like I don't know it out on it. But analytics 197 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: would tell you to go for two down fourteen when 198 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: you score the first touchdown, and I believe it has 199 00:11:37,920 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 1: a lot to you know. The the non analytics way 200 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: of saying it is you'd rather know first and if 201 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: you miss then you know you've got the upper hand. 202 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:47,599 Speaker 1: And if you miss it, you know you got to 203 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: go for two anyway the next time. So um I was. 204 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: I actually said to my sons, who are big Packer fans, 205 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 1: who were I was watching with h they should go 206 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: for two now. And you know, at the time, I 207 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: you know, the one thing analytis can't tell you, And 208 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:10,040 Speaker 1: then I trust a good head coach, especially a veteran 209 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: like John Harbaugh to understand, is the psychology of your 210 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: team in that moment. And you could make a case 211 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 1: that two weeks removed from that crushing situation against the 212 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: Steelers where you go for two and you don't make it. 213 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: And it made sense at the time with their dvs out, 214 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: and now you've done something special with all your dvs 215 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: out and with Tyler Huntley and not labar that psychologically 216 00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: you want to give your team a sense that we're 217 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,480 Speaker 1: still in this. We're going overtime if we could stop 218 00:12:41,520 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, and we're going to extend this. But you know, 219 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: I agree with you say with Staling, I'm never going 220 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,199 Speaker 1: to be the the old you know, grumpy guy who 221 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:55,079 Speaker 1: wants prodded coaches to be more aggressive and is now 222 00:12:55,160 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: like you, Jarrbar, you dare you don't take that risk. 223 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: And also when you have a mobile quarterback, to me, 224 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: that two point scenario feels different. Yep. And I said, 225 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 1: you have a Hall of Fame tight end and Mark Andrews, 226 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: who's a nightmare disadvantage for the Packers. And you know 227 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: it also matters we're four hours into a game and 228 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,080 Speaker 1: the defense is gassed and we're just on the field 229 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 1: and chasing around Tyler Huntley. So all those situational things, 230 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,319 Speaker 1: I thought it was a good call. So I want 231 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:32,840 Speaker 1: to throw this at you. And I addressed this early 232 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 1: and I said, you know, the Niners are going to 233 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: upset somebody. They're physical everywhere, including wide receiver. They're going 234 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: to beat somebody. It's gonna be Rams, Packers, Dallas, Dallas. 235 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 1: They match up really well against Here's a thing. So 236 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: the Niner special teams aren't very good. The defense is good, 237 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: but Kyle didn't get credit for that. And I like 238 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan. And the offense is only good of Jimmy 239 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 1: g plays. And I'm sitting there thinking Aaron Rodgers is 240 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: one of the great quarterback talents of all time and 241 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,439 Speaker 1: sat for three years. If Garoppolo gets him into the 242 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: playoffs and wins a game, he opens camp as the 243 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: guy he's tight with that team. He's a good looking guy, guy, right, 244 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: he's a guy's guy. You tell you tell me, Trey 245 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 1: Lance will have not taken a snap in more than 246 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: one game and two and a half years in next 247 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: year's By next year's camp, what do you do with 248 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 1: that situation. I don't think i'd trade him. I think 249 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: you could get something for him. I don't think i'd 250 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 1: move him. First of all, I take issue with you 251 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: saying that Jimmy Garoppolo is good looking he is exceptional looking. 252 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: He is by far the best looking man ever to 253 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: weary football uniform, if not inhabit the earth. And I 254 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: say that as someone who has happily married like you 255 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: to a woman. Not that it matters. I'm just saying, 256 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo, is that tone insulting? Yeah? I would say 257 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: this first of all. These are the Niners that I 258 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: expected all year, and I went to that game at 259 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: Levi's when they came out lifeless against Colt McCoy and 260 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: no Deanna Hopkins and looked dead in the water and 261 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: it was over. And then they beat the Rams and 262 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: resuscitated themselves. But yeah, I don't think they're just a 263 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: curiosity who's going to be top of the playoffs. I 264 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: think they when they're rolling like this, they are legit 265 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: threat to win the NFC and the whole thing. It's 266 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: gonna be harder road, but it's there. You know, we've 267 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 1: seen the good problem to have scenario a few times 268 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: in football history Rogers and far Philip, Rivers and Breeze. 269 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: You know this is funny because you'll remember this and 270 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: most people don't. So the Chargers get Rivers in the 271 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,480 Speaker 1: first round and the ELI Manning trade after the draft, 272 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: and he's the guy, and Breeze is starting that next 273 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: year in his second year and it's not looking good. 274 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: And then Breeze they actually had to recover an on 275 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: site kick for Breeze to pull out a game to 276 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: kind of stay in, and then Breeze got hot. Well 277 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: now you're three Breeze as Breeze and it's crazy, and 278 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: they're still planning to trade Drew Brees after that third season, 279 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: they're not going to make the playoffs and they have 280 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: one more game that was meaningless, and normally in that 281 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 1: game you would have put Philip Rivers out there to 282 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: see what you got in your three. Yes, they did 283 00:16:20,240 --> 00:16:22,800 Speaker 1: not do it because they were gonna, oh, I'm sorry. 284 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: They were gonna trade Philip Rivers, not Drew Brees, because 285 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: Brees had proved it, so they were gonna say, fine, 286 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: we'll trade Philip Rivers. They didn't put him out there 287 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: because they didn't want to jeffardize that, you know, they 288 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: didn't want him to get hurt and then you can't 289 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: trade him. Drew Brees then suffered a ruin his shoulder injury. 290 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: It ruined the whole thing, so then they had to 291 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: trade Drew Brees. He ended up, of course, being fine, 292 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: and then that paved the way for Philip Rivers. So 293 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: we've seen these good problems before. Jimmy Garoppolo winning the 294 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: Super Bowl with the forty Niners this year would be 295 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: a great problem to have. I still think if you 296 00:16:57,160 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: traded that much to get a guy. Now, when Kyle 297 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: made that trade, he might not have known that it 298 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: was for Trey Lads separate subject. I think you thought 299 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: it was for Mac Jones. But be that as it may, 300 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:14,719 Speaker 1: you've invested that much an He's that athletic and intelligent. 301 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: It seems to me that you are still looking to 302 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: make that move. But you're right, Jimmy's exceptionally popular in 303 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:26,199 Speaker 1: that locker room, and even winning one playoff game points 304 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: toward keeping them. They could win more than one. Hey, 305 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,119 Speaker 1: the NFL playoffs are almost here. 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Arizona. So 332 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: you were You've always been a little bit of a 333 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:56,480 Speaker 1: skeptic on the Arizona Cardinals. Yeah, and you have very 334 00:18:56,480 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: good sources inside that room. I have one source. And 335 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: you know, the question about Kyler has never been as 336 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 1: he gifted enough, but they brought in some veterans because 337 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 1: they did worry about leadership. Kyler's not necessarily a good 338 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:12,879 Speaker 1: hang with all the guys. He can be kind of 339 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: his own guy, right. I mean he's a baseball guy 340 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,919 Speaker 1: before he was a football guy. And you know I 341 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: said this last week. I don't love his body language. 342 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: I don't he can. I mean, Aaron sometimes I'm critical 343 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: of it, the eye rolling, but I mean sometimes with Kyler, 344 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: it's like dramatic players see that and they don't appreciate it. Right, 345 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: You and I do wonder a little bit. I wonder 346 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: when I watched that offense. You tell me, Mike, you 347 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,160 Speaker 1: have good sources on this, I wonder if they're unraveling 348 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: a little bit in Arizona. Okay, So yeah. One reason 349 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: I was skeptical of the Cardinals this year, and I 350 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: clearly got that wrong for most of the season at least, 351 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: is that I knew that there was a lot of 352 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: pressure on that team, while most of us, I think, 353 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: looked at last year, and remember we were not around 354 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: because of COVID, so our reporting was not what it 355 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: should have been. But most of us kind of looked 356 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: at them last year kind of like the Dolphins, like, Wow, 357 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: they're doing pretty well. They didn't make the playoffs, but 358 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: they were right there at the end, and it's promising 359 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: and they're gonna really have a chance next year to 360 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: take a step. Owner Michael Bidwell did not look at 361 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: it that way. He looked at it like, we should 362 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: we should have closed and made the playoffs. You guys 363 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,399 Speaker 1: all screwed it up. You're all on blast. And that 364 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:32,400 Speaker 1: certainly included Cliff Kingsbury. And so I thought that, combined 365 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,880 Speaker 1: with some of the things you said about Kyler not 366 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: necessarily your classic you know, guy who galvanizes the locker 367 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: room and as a leader, yet that it could go 368 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: really bad but then I had it wrong. Obviously they 369 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 1: lost to the Rams. It's funny. So I'm writing my 370 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:51,760 Speaker 1: thirty two questions column, which I did for years at 371 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:54,199 Speaker 1: Yahoo and later at NFL dot Com. I'm doing it 372 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: for Bally Sports now and my lead last week was 373 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: quoting Kurt Warner, who thank you for Meda the intro. 374 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: We co wrote a book, and twenty one years later 375 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: it's now a movie. American Underdog went to a premiere 376 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 1: at Chinese theater last week. It's surreal. But he's very 377 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: smart about football, and he took each of those franchises 378 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. So I thought i'd ask him 379 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: the day after the morning after Rams Cardinals, what do 380 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: you think? Because I think a lot of us saw 381 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,920 Speaker 1: that and thought, wow, that could be a real turning point. 382 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,639 Speaker 1: The Rams could take over his quotes and you can 383 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 1: read it on Valley Sports. He basically said, the Rams 384 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: still worry me, Stafford still worries me. I think the 385 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: real Stafford could surface. And the Cardinals don't worry me 386 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: that much because I've seen them lose twice at home 387 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: to the Packers and to the though to the Rams, 388 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: and he said in both times they didn't play well 389 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: at all, and they were right there. They got they 390 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: can get back into it so quickly. I'm not worried. 391 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: I think they're you know, they'll they'll be right there 392 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. But I think i'd love to talk 393 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: to Kurt again, and I probably will because that's not 394 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: what happened to Detroit, and in fairness, that's not what 395 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: happened against the Panthers a little while back either, And 396 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:15,160 Speaker 1: that's too bad losses. And did you happen to notice 397 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: who they played next? Because it's not a great thing 398 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: for them. I believe their next game is against the 399 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts, and the Colts may have to throw for 400 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 1: more than fifty eight yards in that one. That's not 401 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: a great next opponent right now after what we have 402 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: seen recently. You know, I got it. Let's go back 403 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: to Thursday when Frank Reich and Chris Powder roll the 404 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,359 Speaker 1: dice on Carson Wentz. I was a big advocate, you know. 405 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,440 Speaker 1: I came out and I just said, listen, the kid 406 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: is a six five super athlete. There's a lot of 407 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: similarities to Andrew Luck. He's a little reckless, but he's 408 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 1: a tough kid. Guys like him. He's gonna lose you 409 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: a couple of games. He's gonna do a Sam Darnel 410 00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:01,439 Speaker 1: and make a throw that's just completely non redeemable. But 411 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: I will say this, we've paid attention to the Stafford acquisition. 412 00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: This Colts team is the Niners of the AFC. I 413 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,360 Speaker 1: feel like they're gonna beat somebody Mike in the playoffs 414 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: first round. They're gonna knock somebody off. I'll tell you 415 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,879 Speaker 1: teams will not want to play him first of all, 416 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,959 Speaker 1: and I am not as high on Wentz. I believe 417 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: that because you know, you know how everyone gives the 418 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: Colts a hard time for hanging the banners that say 419 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: made it to the AFC Championship game. Right, all of 420 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: that is, there should be all the cars of wet supporters, 421 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: and maybe you are included, should have a banner that 422 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: says could have been MVP. In twenty seventeen, he didn't 423 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: get hurt asterisk at his backup then went on to 424 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,879 Speaker 1: win the Super I feel like we're living a little 425 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: bit in the past on that now. He was a 426 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: broken guy. But I did feel that Frank Wright, who 427 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: knows him so well and is so good at those situations, 428 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: could could coax him back, but I think you know, 429 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:06,400 Speaker 1: to me, if you told me Carson Wentz is gonna 430 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: have to carry the Colts to a playoff when I'm 431 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: kind of like, but they you know, Jonathan Taylor could 432 00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:17,879 Speaker 1: run that thing. They've got Buckner Leonard, that middle. You know, 433 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: the guys in the middle. They've got some real um 434 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: foundational players in the middle of that. Wenson Garoppolo can 435 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: win you games. We probably don't trust either in the 436 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: play of the game, which is why they're not Super 437 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: Bowl teams, but they play a physical style. We respect 438 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,560 Speaker 1: their offensive coaches, and I think we both think the 439 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: Niners and the Colts will win a playoff game, and 440 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: I kind of feel I kind of feel they're the same. 441 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: Garoppolo makes me nervous, but I think Garoppolo, who I've 442 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: seen be within half a quarter of a Super Bowl 443 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: championship with that team, I think they could go further. 444 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: But you know, I guess the Colts could too. So 445 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:04,479 Speaker 1: you know, one of the things that got the NBA 446 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:10,640 Speaker 1: in trouble was, you know, they had certain political leanings, 447 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,159 Speaker 1: which I may agree with, but then it looked like 448 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 1: they were selling their soul. Lebron in the league on China. 449 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: The NFL has been kind of conservative leaning, pro business 450 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: capitalists Morning Tonight. My entire life, I've always felt the 451 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:31,480 Speaker 1: shield over everything. So I'm not bothered by them moving games. 452 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: I'm not bothered by the NFL saying listen, it appears 453 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: to be a slightly weaker variant. The stronger variant was 454 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: not punitive to any of our players. We're just going 455 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 1: to move these games and get the games in. And 456 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: you can say we're changing protocol. Okay, we want the 457 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: games to be played. We don't want to cancel games. 458 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,200 Speaker 1: I'm comfortable with what they're doing. Some in the media 459 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,160 Speaker 1: are not, because I feel like they've always been in 460 00:25:56,200 --> 00:26:00,560 Speaker 1: my lifetime. We're doing whatever's best for business. That's what 461 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna do. Yeah, I don't love it. So some 462 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:08,360 Speaker 1: background on me, though I may have strong lefty political leanings, 463 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: oddly enough, when it comes to the NFL and business, 464 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: I am super like Adam Smith, free market like I 465 00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:20,639 Speaker 1: remember the old Pullet Burrow bosses who used to share 466 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: everything and you know, never innovate or market. And I 467 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,200 Speaker 1: was with Eddie de Barlo and Jerry Jones and Robert 468 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,120 Speaker 1: Kraft and the new guard of owners who were like, nah, 469 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: we're going to aggressively try to generate revenue and not 470 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: just sit there and take our free bread, and we're 471 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,239 Speaker 1: going to try to grow this thing. So and that 472 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: was before I worked in NFL network for eight years, 473 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: but my leanings on the NFL tend to be very 474 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: aligned with that, Like it's a business, get over it. 475 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 1: I don't love this, and there are a couple of 476 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: complaints I have. The optics competitively are weird, and really 477 00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 1: I understand that it's gonna be weird either way. But 478 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 1: you know, first of all, you've got Raiders Browns, and 479 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: you've got JC Tredder in his high up position at 480 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: the Union, who has a conflict of interest, doesn't recuse 481 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: himself at the very least and gets the Browns game 482 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: moved back in a way that helps the Browns. I'm 483 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,280 Speaker 1: not saying I'm not one of those, you know, I'm 484 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: not like a Raider of fenders, like it's always against us, 485 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:24,200 Speaker 1: But you can understand the frustration there. I really understand 486 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: the frustration of the Seahawks and the Eagles whose games 487 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:32,880 Speaker 1: were moved back and now they're players, especially the Seahawks 488 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 1: are testing positive in the meantime, while the Rams players 489 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 1: and the Washington players are getting back on the list. 490 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a competitive disadvantage if it keeps 491 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: trending this way for the Seahawks and the Eagles, you know, 492 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: relative to the other team. And then of course there's 493 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,440 Speaker 1: what happens the next week. I get it, we're in 494 00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 1: a pandemic. I got it last year. I'm not averse 495 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: to the concept of games being moved and get the 496 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 1: games in. What I don't like in general is that 497 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 1: the NFL is basically going from an orientation, at least 498 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:13,239 Speaker 1: presentation wise, that this is a pandemic. It's spreading, we 499 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: need to try to deal with it, and we've got 500 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: protocols in place to try to help help mitigate that. 501 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:25,399 Speaker 1: And now they're just going everyone's getting it, we don't care. 502 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: And it almost reminds me of the if we stop testing, 503 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: they'll be fewer cases weirdness. So I guess I would 504 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: say this. It's easy for people on the outside to 505 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 1: just go welcome on. They're not going to get that 506 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: sick from it, and you know it's spreading and that's 507 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: what it is. But you know, these are players who 508 00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: may live with immunocompromise people. They may have parents who 509 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: are old. And we also as a society, we have 510 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 1: a responsibility to at least try to not blatantly spread it. 511 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: I understand businesses are going to try to stay open. 512 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: I understand it's complicated optics wise. I didn't love the 513 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: just you know what, we're having a problem now getting 514 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: games in. So let's just change the protocol so that 515 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,040 Speaker 1: we don't know about it and plug your ear. And 516 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: also people will say, why can't asymptomatic players play. It's 517 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 1: outside or it's a door dome with good ventilation, Like 518 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 1: open your mind for a second. There's locker rooms, there's buses, 519 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 1: there's you know, it's it's gonna spread. And so the 520 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: NFL has basically said everyone's getting it, and you know, 521 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: I hope it'll be okay. Um, someone's grandma or someone's mom, 522 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: or someone's immunocompromise. You know, brother is probably gonna take 523 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 1: it on the chin in a way that he or 524 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: she wouldn't have And I don't like it. So you 525 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: know what, I think a really interesting story is that 526 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: certain divisions have good team NFC AFC North, Yeah, Cleveland, Pittsburgh, 527 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: Baltimore Cincinnati. But if you go look right now in 528 00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: the National Football League, Mike, I did this Friday on 529 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: the show, and I think because of Cincinnati's win, I 530 00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: haven't seen the standings as we speak, and we won't 531 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: really know the week standings because we have six more games, 532 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 1: right or seven? The best two quarterbacks and I'm counting 533 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts as the second best quarterback. I do believe 534 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 1: he's the second most dynamic quarterback to Dac in that division. 535 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: The best two quarterbacks lead every single division, every single one. Now, 536 00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: you know, I consider Mac Jones to be kind of 537 00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: a better version of two, A low ceiling, accurate, smart kid. 538 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: But and why that matters is so I have predicted 539 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: twelve of fourteen current playoff teams simply because I always 540 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: if you have a competent coach and a good quarterback, 541 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: you're in. Do you ever think about this that the 542 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,240 Speaker 1: downside of this, the upside is the playoffs will have 543 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:15,440 Speaker 1: all the best quarterbacks. The downside is now is not? 544 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: That's right? So right now? Yeah, Stafford right now, and 545 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: that division's interesting. All the best of that division, right, So, 546 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: I'm saying, in terms of playing this year, Matt Stafford's 547 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 1: been very very strong, and Kyler up until a lot 548 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: two weeks ago, it's been very very strong. That's kind 549 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: of the outlier. That's also a division where the fourth 550 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: best quarterback made a Super Bowl and let Patrick Mahomes 551 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,760 Speaker 1: going into the fourth. So you know, it's it's the 552 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: sec of pro football. It's like everybody's kind of good. 553 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,520 Speaker 1: But I always think the good news to that is 554 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: get the quarterback at least mostly right. You'll be in 555 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: the playoffs. It's good for the league. But I do 556 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: worry that the bottom half of the league gets really 557 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 1: non competitive. The Jets aren on comp editive mostly, the 558 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:05,160 Speaker 1: Giants are non competitive. The Texans are non competitive. Does 559 00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: that worry you at all? Do you think the league 560 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: even ever considers we are so pro quarterback now that 561 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,479 Speaker 1: if he gets hurt, you're done. If you don't have 562 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,800 Speaker 1: the right guy, you become the bottom of the NBA. 563 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: We are not even competitive or the bottom of baseball. Well, 564 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 1: first of all, I guess twenty eight of the thirty 565 00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: two teams going into this weekend, we're still alive. They 566 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: added a playoff team. We're still all trying to do 567 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: the seventeen game math in our heads. But I mean, 568 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 1: the worst shall be first. I wrote a whole column 569 00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: going back to my weird, you know, incongruous free market 570 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,720 Speaker 1: orientation when it comes to the NFL. During the lockout 571 00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: in twenty eleven, I wrote a column for Yahoo comparing 572 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: the NFL the Communism in many ways, and the worst 573 00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: shall be first certainly applies to the draft. Right, So 574 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: you say the Jets aren't competitive, they just have the 575 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: number two pick on the draft and took a quarter back. 576 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: The Giants trained up and took Daniel Jones. I mean, 577 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,240 Speaker 1: it's not that the system is set up to keep 578 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: those teams from being competitive quarterback wise, it's that they're 579 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: not choosing the right ones and or developing them and 580 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 1: or surrounding them with infrastructures. So now I don't really 581 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: worry about I mean, look at the Ravens, right, they 582 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: had to play the Packers with literally a starting secondary 583 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: that I didn't have really heard of any of them. 584 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: And Tyler Huntley, now I happened to in my work 585 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: as a member of the Washington football team's preseason broadcasting 586 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: crew that was with Colin by the way, I was 587 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 1: the sideline guy with Kenny Albert and Joe Theisman. I 588 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: felt pretty like I didn't pretty much like I didn't belong, 589 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: but grateful to be part of that. And they played 590 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: the Ravens and Tyler Huntley basically played most of that game, 591 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: and I was like, I just kept looking from the 592 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: sideline going like, this guy's awesome, and I'm a PAC 593 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:06,239 Speaker 1: twelve guy. Really this good. Now it's preseason and all that, 594 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: but Tyler Huntley is pretty good and they hadn't prepared. Yeah, 595 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: So you know, I think we say there aren't enough quarterbacks, 596 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,240 Speaker 1: or we always said, and teams are gonna be looking hard, 597 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: and if Rogers and Russell Wilson are really there for 598 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 1: the taking, it's gonna be as crazy as it's been 599 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: the last couple off seasons. But um, you know, you've 600 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,719 Speaker 1: you've got to have the right people picking quarterbacks, and 601 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,480 Speaker 1: you've got to have an infrastructure that supports them. So 602 00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: you I said this before, is that most of the 603 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,319 Speaker 1: NFL was rooting against urban Meyer. Most NFL people look 604 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: at college football is sort of jav football. We saw 605 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: Spurrier flame out, Lou Holtz like urban Meyer quit, Bobby 606 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: Petrino quit. Most of these guys don't work. Pete Carroll 607 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,840 Speaker 1: had an NFL history before college. You know, Jimmy Johnson, 608 00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: even though it hadn't been to the NFL, had gone 609 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:05,560 Speaker 1: to Amps wanted to be an NFL guy. Urban. Yes, yeah, 610 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,479 Speaker 1: so Urban told me a year ago, a year before 611 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: he took the job. He goes, I never even watched 612 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: the NFL, And I remember telling one of my bosses 613 00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,160 Speaker 1: at Fox, I'm like, when I heard rumors he would 614 00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: go to the NFL, I'm like, he doesn't have any contacts, 615 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: Like you gotta have contacts. So I thought Jacksonville was 616 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: the perfect place for him if he was going to succeed. 617 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: It's a college town. I'm like, this is perfect. He's 618 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: got a fan base built, and he's got Trevor Lawrence. 619 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: It's a goofy division, there's no dominant quarterback. And then 620 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: it just unraveled. Are you surprised his mistakes were so 621 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 1: collegiate and so dumbant? The Iowa strength coach tebow like, 622 00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,399 Speaker 1: you're probably not surprised by any of it. Well, I'm 623 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,719 Speaker 1: surprised by the just complete train wreck element of it. 624 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 1: And they the mistakes were collegiate, but they were arrogant, 625 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,040 Speaker 1: and so I would see. I think people in the 626 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: media and people in the business are you say rooting 627 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 1: for I think our guards are up for different reasons. 628 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:14,480 Speaker 1: I think in the media we say these people are 629 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: used to being emperor, and it's the same thing. I 630 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: think media people think when a Belichick disciple who thinks 631 00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 1: if you just act like Bill you will win, comes in, 632 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: it's the same. It's it's you know. Famously, Nick Saban, 633 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: while he was at the Dolphins one morning, came in 634 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: and a woman who worked outside of football saw him 635 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,720 Speaker 1: and said, oh, your hair, Your hair looks good. Coach. 636 00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,319 Speaker 1: He had gotten a haircut. A memo went out later 637 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: that day that said you are not to speak to 638 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: coach Saban unless he addresses you first, unless you're in football. 639 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: So it's that sense that these guys are so used 640 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 1: to being in charge and they just can't handle the heat, 641 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: whether it's media questioning or hey, your hair looks good. 642 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: So that's that's on the side of it, and urban 643 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,319 Speaker 1: that certainly seemed to apply to him. But I think 644 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: coaches and people personnel, people on people in the business, 645 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:13,399 Speaker 1: and this goes back to what you talked about, their 646 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,680 Speaker 1: guards are up for other reasons. Now when Tibomania was 647 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: happening in the NFL. I remember a very respected personnel 648 00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: guy in the NFL, one of the top gms at 649 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: the time, called me and said, you see this Urban 650 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,799 Speaker 1: Meyer quote, and I said, huh. He said, he just 651 00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: said that the reason Tim Tebow hasn't succeeded in the 652 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: NFL is that nobody has understood how to use it. 653 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,839 Speaker 1: And he was like, really, you really think you know 654 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,720 Speaker 1: how to use Tim Tebow? But no one in the NFL, 655 00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: these coaches has figured it out. And this might have 656 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,240 Speaker 1: been after Tibomania when he was watching out or before, 657 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:02,480 Speaker 1: and so I think there's also that whole Yeah, he 658 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 1: doesn't have any contacts, he doesn't really watch the NFL, 659 00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:07,560 Speaker 1: but he came in thinking like, I mean, how hard 660 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,520 Speaker 1: could it be? And I think Spurrier had a little 661 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,879 Speaker 1: element of that like Harmon by the way, By the way, 662 00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: Charlie Weiss from the NFL to College had that at 663 00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: Notre Dame right right. And Harbaugh knew how hard it 664 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,920 Speaker 1: was because he was Captain cubback right and understood it. 665 00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: So I think, you know, that's part of what you saw. 666 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: And from what I reported in October early October and 667 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: what and what I was told is that he came 668 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: in in that building disparaging other coaches, the players, the 669 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:45,439 Speaker 1: NFL in general, ripping the league. And so I think 670 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 1: you add that to the bucket. But with all of 671 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 1: that said, yeah, I'm surprised. The guy won a ton 672 00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: of games. He was really good coach at Utah. He 673 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: was a champion coach at Florida and Ohio State. And 674 00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:02,280 Speaker 1: you know, you would think that you would at least 675 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,879 Speaker 1: take a team with Trevor Lawrence and you know, some 676 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 1: enthusiasm and some accomplished coaches on that staff and make 677 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: them a little more competitive. All right. The movie is 678 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,760 Speaker 1: called American Underdog. It opens Christmas Day. It's a book 679 00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:23,680 Speaker 1: that Mike Silver wrote with Kurt Warner, like years and 680 00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: years and years ago. And so give me this. When 681 00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 1: did somebody, because it takes a long time to get 682 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,560 Speaker 1: movies made. Was it three or four years ago? Somebody 683 00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 1: approached you and said, hey, this book would make a 684 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: great Christmas movie. We'll call it. It's amazing. So I 685 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 1: have this framed article up here. It just happens to 686 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: be one of the figs in my office. But it's 687 00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 1: a it's a sports Illustrated. Try to see it there. 688 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:50,520 Speaker 1: It's a Sports Illustrated cover story that I wrote off 689 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:54,080 Speaker 1: of Super Bowl thirty four when Kurt was the MVP 690 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,320 Speaker 1: and through the touchdown past Isaac Bruce and they stopped 691 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,400 Speaker 1: the Titans on the one yard line. That was his 692 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,640 Speaker 1: first as a starter, his breakthrough. You right, I had 693 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: gone out and written the story in week four or 694 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: five that had the cover who is this guy? And 695 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: when he was just tearing up the league out of nowhere. 696 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,799 Speaker 1: In the lead to that story, I literally say it's 697 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: I say, it's a story that has been called too schmalty, 698 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: even for Hollywood. So I stand corrected, first of all, 699 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,959 Speaker 1: you know, but it did take a long time. So yeah, 700 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,400 Speaker 1: I always knew, like, this story is crazy. It's unprecedented 701 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: in the NFL and even in major professional sports, you know, 702 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,800 Speaker 1: to have a guy who you know, there was family tragedy, 703 00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 1: there were other things going on, but he was literally 704 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:47,479 Speaker 1: stocking supermarket shelves at the High V grocery store out 705 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: of college in Iowa for minimum wage on the graveyard 706 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 1: shift and telling guys, yeah, man, I could be an 707 00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: NFL you know guy, And they were like, yeah, you know, 708 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 1: like you would expect and five years later he was 709 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,240 Speaker 1: not just like a good NFL quarterback, but like space 710 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,879 Speaker 1: Age good tearing up the league. So it is a 711 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,320 Speaker 1: crazy story, and I guess that's you know, I purposely 712 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,280 Speaker 1: didn't see the movie until the premiere and I'm sitting 713 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:22,840 Speaker 1: there and I remember thinking, you know, as I watched again, 714 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:26,359 Speaker 1: like god, this is corny, but it's the truth. It's 715 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 1: faithful to the book, like it really that it is 716 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,400 Speaker 1: a corny story, but it's a nice story. And you know, 717 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,600 Speaker 1: Kurt's green. I worked with him for eight years in 718 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,719 Speaker 1: NFL Network. He's a good, good person. Him, Brett have 719 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: been through a lot. They've done it the right way. 720 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:44,600 Speaker 1: And I think people I think it's a nice movie. 721 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,600 Speaker 1: I think people like it. I'm gonna watch it. You 722 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:51,240 Speaker 1: should be really proud. Yeah, there are very few sports 723 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 1: writers in my life or media people that have done this. 724 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a really big accomplishment. You should have 725 00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,920 Speaker 1: a babble of crystal with your wife, up a napperor 726 00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 1: whatever you very talented, smart people do with your lives 727 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,840 Speaker 1: in Northern California. You should be very proud of yourself. 728 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna take your you know, 729 00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: well intentioned statement and turn it into a threat. And 730 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: that's you and I are going to celebrate with our 731 00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:21,040 Speaker 1: wives at a very night there we go, you know, 732 00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:24,440 Speaker 1: and we'll get some bottles of whatever we're in the 733 00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:28,120 Speaker 1: mood for. And uh yeah, no, that's it's it's really cool, 734 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 1: I mean. And to answer your earlier question, yeah, got 735 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,040 Speaker 1: optioned a few times over the years. It's been a 736 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,760 Speaker 1: few years in the making. But you know, I credit 737 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: these filmmakers for believing it. And I know Kurt had 738 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: a lot to do with how the story got shaped. 739 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:46,720 Speaker 1: And you know, I know Kurt, uh you know, back 740 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,240 Speaker 1: in two thousand and at odd, he was very overt 741 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,000 Speaker 1: about his religious faith and it kind of freaked some 742 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,760 Speaker 1: people out. You know, he and brend are a lot different. 743 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 1: I know, they still are very very you know, have 744 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: wrong convictions and believe in in, you know, some very 745 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 1: very good things, but they're much less eager to shout 746 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,319 Speaker 1: it from the rooftops. And so I think, you know, 747 00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: the people will find the movie reflects that, and I 748 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 1: think that's by design. Well, I can't wait for you 749 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,120 Speaker 1: to die. You and I to go out for lunch 750 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,840 Speaker 1: or dinner and I'll probably have to wear a mask 751 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,399 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, will probably have to be double mask 752 00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,840 Speaker 1: to sit at the Toscana Bar and Brent one anymore. 753 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,160 Speaker 1: We will That's a mask. I mean, seriously, I'll get 754 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,880 Speaker 1: over it. I know, thoughts and prayers to us. We 755 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,759 Speaker 1: are now We're now going to conclude this afternoon of 756 00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:46,160 Speaker 1: speaking into a microphone about football as part of our locations, 757 00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 1: and you know, say, you know, thoughts and prayers to us. 758 00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,200 Speaker 1: Good see anybody, Thank you. Go watch the movie, folks, 759 00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:58,720 Speaker 1: Christmas Day. It comes out Christmas Day. Watch the Maddened 760 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: documentary on Fox, and then watch American Underdog. I'm going 761 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,200 Speaker 1: to opening Christmas Day. Great movie, great premise, and my 762 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 1: buddy Mike Silver. 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