1
00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,360
Speaker 1: You were tuned about Drive Home of the Black and

2
00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:30,680
Speaker 1: Goal Steelers Nation Radio. M H Welcome back to the Drive.

3
00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:33,680
Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lally here with Matt Williamson and Mett. You

4
00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,240
Speaker 1: brought up Kirk Cousins in the last space. Yeah, let's

5
00:00:36,240 --> 00:00:39,400
Speaker 1: go down that road. Okay. Uh So, Kirk Cousins in

6
00:00:39,479 --> 00:00:45,159
Speaker 1: two thousand seventeen goes from Washington to Minnesota, and for

7
00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:47,839
Speaker 1: people don't remember, he was franchised three times in a

8
00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,440
Speaker 1: row by the Redskins at the time, which was not

9
00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,080
Speaker 1: the best way to do business, and it made him

10
00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,520
Speaker 1: a very rich man. Yeah, and then Minnesota guarante fully

11
00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:59,560
Speaker 1: guaranteed his contracts. I bring him up because if you

12
00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:04,080
Speaker 1: look at his numbers and said, boy, Kirk Cousins has

13
00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:06,920
Speaker 1: been a pretty good quarterback. Yeah, but what was in

14
00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:10,880
Speaker 1: place in Minnesota when he got there. A lot solid

15
00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,680
Speaker 1: infrastructure with a good coach and a great defense at

16
00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:17,160
Speaker 1: the time, and two really good and wide receivers you mean,

17
00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:20,920
Speaker 1: a running game in the Kubyact type scheme, um and

18
00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:23,959
Speaker 1: good receivers, right right. I mean he's one of the

19
00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm not killed sitting and killkerk Cousins. He's a top

20
00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,680
Speaker 1: twenty quarterback, and he's had some good moments. Um, he's

21
00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:34,520
Speaker 1: not for me to be honest with you, but his

22
00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,759
Speaker 1: stats will look better than the player too, because he's

23
00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,119
Speaker 1: played every game, you know. I mean he's a compiler.

24
00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:45,399
Speaker 1: He's a compiler. He had great wide receivers and then

25
00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,080
Speaker 1: you look at the numbers jumped. I mean, Diggs was

26
00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,760
Speaker 1: a great player for Minnesota. People forget his first his

27
00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:56,560
Speaker 1: first two years in Minnesota and twenty six touchdown passes

28
00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:01,120
Speaker 1: he had almost forty yards, and then he had thirty

29
00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,600
Speaker 1: six oh three a second year in fifteen games. The

30
00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:11,720
Speaker 1: last two seasons UH sixty five. The UH last year

31
00:02:12,160 --> 00:02:17,120
Speaker 1: thirty five touchdown passes, thirteen interceptions. This year UH two,

32
00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,399
Speaker 1: he missed a game a game and had thirty three

33
00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:24,040
Speaker 1: touchdown passes in seven interceptions. So that his last year

34
00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:31,200
Speaker 1: twenty six touchdown passes, six interceptions. Justin Jefferson arrives last year,

35
00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:35,840
Speaker 1: they trade digs for the first and comes in as

36
00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:40,760
Speaker 1: a rookie. Yeah right, and cheaper right. Everyone was happy.

37
00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:43,919
Speaker 1: He's an average quarterback. He's an average quarterback. To me,

38
00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:49,000
Speaker 1: he's probably the most average quarterback. And yet you look

39
00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:53,959
Speaker 1: at those numbers he's putting up because great receivers, great

40
00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,080
Speaker 1: players around him. That's you know, people say we have

41
00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,720
Speaker 1: to you have to have the franchise quarterback, and you

42
00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,280
Speaker 1: look at the playoffs you go, Okay, maybe there's something

43
00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:05,880
Speaker 1: to that. Teams, teams that are still alive, still franchise

44
00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,360
Speaker 1: type quarterback. Sure, I'd like that My Homes or Josh Allen,

45
00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:13,040
Speaker 1: But then you see Jimmy Garoppolo, Ryan Tanney Hill, Right,

46
00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:15,560
Speaker 1: you know they're not all and some young guys to

47
00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:18,960
Speaker 1: Burrows still learning and you know those type of eyes. Um,

48
00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,359
Speaker 1: a couple of cousins quick notes. Um, I give him

49
00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:26,400
Speaker 1: a lot of credit because at Michigan State, the biggest

50
00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,840
Speaker 1: reason he was a fourth round pick, which was happening

51
00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:32,200
Speaker 1: to be the year they draft RG three, which is strange, bonkers.

52
00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,480
Speaker 1: But he's not young. I mean he's Andrew Luck RG three. Yeah,

53
00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,320
Speaker 1: he's been around, but boy, even pursued it will tell

54
00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,960
Speaker 1: you the Michigan State homer. Boy did he turn the

55
00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,880
Speaker 1: ball over. And even when he came in the league preseason,

56
00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:49,200
Speaker 1: the first three or four years, his interception rate, you know,

57
00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:52,200
Speaker 1: the percentage of throws that got picked was like the

58
00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:56,320
Speaker 1: most in history, and it was unbelievably bad. And he's

59
00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,880
Speaker 1: really cut back on that. I deep down I wonder

60
00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,640
Speaker 1: is it's still in as d n A. You know,

61
00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:08,360
Speaker 1: there's even the game against the Steelers, he threw some

62
00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:10,760
Speaker 1: balls that were just right. He was not good that

63
00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,640
Speaker 1: it was not good in that game, but he fell

64
00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,400
Speaker 1: into a really good spot in Minnesota in that Dalvin

65
00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:17,400
Speaker 1: Cook is going to be the foundation of that offense.

66
00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:19,680
Speaker 1: No matter who your receivers are, to your point, two

67
00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,560
Speaker 1: really good receivers always at the bottom the league, and

68
00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,640
Speaker 1: three receiver sets. They had two good ones and they

69
00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,240
Speaker 1: played those guys in a fullbacker an extra tight end

70
00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:31,839
Speaker 1: with a good defensive minded head coach, and all year

71
00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:34,960
Speaker 1: I called them middling Minnesota. You know, when it was

72
00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,599
Speaker 1: all said and done, they're about the most average team

73
00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,159
Speaker 1: in the league with about the most average quarterback in league.

74
00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,360
Speaker 1: And that's why Zimmer didn't get fired because he's a

75
00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,600
Speaker 1: bad coach. They just needed, you know, turn nothing upside down.

76
00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,560
Speaker 1: You know what his career record is, Zimmer Cousins Cousins

77
00:04:50,200 --> 00:05:00,280
Speaker 1: under fifty nine and two even Stephen Midta anymore even

78
00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,800
Speaker 1: than that, he is that the definition of an average

79
00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,280
Speaker 1: NFL quarterback. But you put if if your defense, if

80
00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:09,440
Speaker 1: their defense was better. Now they would have been a

81
00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,080
Speaker 1: far better team. Like oh yeah, yeah, like it has

82
00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,040
Speaker 1: been under because the numbers, the numbers are there. It's

83
00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,599
Speaker 1: it's not just about the numbers, it's about being can

84
00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,920
Speaker 1: you can you win games when when the games are

85
00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,800
Speaker 1: on the line. See, this is where my argument's gonna

86
00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:26,839
Speaker 1: get a little skewed, because, boy, his record in primetime

87
00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:30,240
Speaker 1: games is terrible. I bet he has very few come

88
00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,880
Speaker 1: from behind victories. I don't know that number. I'm just

89
00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:36,240
Speaker 1: totally guessing he has fourteen in his career fourth He's

90
00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,120
Speaker 1: played a lot of fourteen fourth quarter again, a hundred

91
00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:43,120
Speaker 1: and twenty career starts, and he had his fourteen fourth

92
00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:47,719
Speaker 1: quarter comebacks. So let's spin it to the Steelers. If

93
00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,640
Speaker 1: if you would, if Ben would retired last year and

94
00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,600
Speaker 1: they gave your Kirk Cousins for free, and he would

95
00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,680
Speaker 1: have been your quarterback this year, I think the offensive

96
00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:00,480
Speaker 1: numbers would have been way better. I think they probably

97
00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,240
Speaker 1: win more games. But I don't know about that part

98
00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,160
Speaker 1: because I think we'll all concede Cousins is a better

99
00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:08,560
Speaker 1: player than the two thousand, twenty one version of Ben.

100
00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,919
Speaker 1: But is he in the fourth quarter or three minutes

101
00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,240
Speaker 1: left in the game, and you've gained all that knowledge

102
00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,400
Speaker 1: of fifty seven the same nine seven and one record,

103
00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:20,640
Speaker 1: just got there differently. And you're the ranked offense and

104
00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,160
Speaker 1: staid of twenty eight or whatever. You have better yards

105
00:06:23,200 --> 00:06:26,839
Speaker 1: per play and the first quarters are prettier. And is

106
00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,960
Speaker 1: that worth thirty million dollars in cap space and a

107
00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:34,080
Speaker 1: substantial pick? Yeah? I don't think it is. To me.

108
00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,080
Speaker 1: That was the value of Roethlisberger this year, right, I

109
00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:40,880
Speaker 1: mean he has six fourth quarter comebacks that led the NFL. No,

110
00:06:41,160 --> 00:06:42,720
Speaker 1: you could say, well, he was part of building that.

111
00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:44,960
Speaker 1: He's the first one to admit you know, I've asked

112
00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,920
Speaker 1: him about that before. You know, what's the you know,

113
00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:48,920
Speaker 1: what do you feel? You know you have all these

114
00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,400
Speaker 1: fourth quarter comebacks. What's that mean to you? Because means

115
00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,320
Speaker 1: I stunk for the first say you can joke about

116
00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,360
Speaker 1: and be like, I never should have been losing, all right,

117
00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,160
Speaker 1: of course, but they're there, And the only two guys

118
00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:00,520
Speaker 1: who are better than him in history, in the history

119
00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,200
Speaker 1: of the game are Manning and Brady. Yeah. Well they

120
00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:05,799
Speaker 1: didn't stint in all those games either, No, they played

121
00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:10,480
Speaker 1: a ton of them at um. Also, there's a factor

122
00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,720
Speaker 1: of let's say not I mean, I'm making stuff up.

123
00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,400
Speaker 1: But let's say t J. Watt, Nagy Harris going to

124
00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,600
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame ten twelve years from now, and in

125
00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,560
Speaker 1: their speech they say, what I learned from Ben my

126
00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,160
Speaker 1: rookie year early in my career, helped make me the

127
00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,640
Speaker 1: player I am today. Like in Ben's speech, I bet

128
00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:31,280
Speaker 1: he mentions Bettis, you know what I mean, was Jerome

129
00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:33,960
Speaker 1: the best running back in the league anymore? No? You know,

130
00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:40,280
Speaker 1: So there's that kind to the right, the touch of

131
00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:42,720
Speaker 1: what it's like. You know, Guys like Najy said, Yeah,

132
00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:44,720
Speaker 1: I played with Ben on Madden growing up, and now

133
00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,840
Speaker 1: he's my quarterback. You know, Cousins isn't gonna do that,

134
00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,640
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You know, it's it's after

135
00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,560
Speaker 1: the game on Sunday, um Roethlis progressed, I was asked,

136
00:07:54,600 --> 00:08:00,240
Speaker 1: you know what, I can't remember exactly how it's raised,

137
00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,000
Speaker 1: but something about his legacy or something like that, and

138
00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,840
Speaker 1: he said that, you know, he basically went to Cam

139
00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:07,720
Speaker 1: Heyward after the game, gave him a hug and said

140
00:08:07,760 --> 00:08:09,880
Speaker 1: it's your team now. Yeah, now it's on you to

141
00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,640
Speaker 1: to pay that forward, to be that guy. And that's

142
00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,800
Speaker 1: how the things have always worked around here. They lost

143
00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:17,480
Speaker 1: a lot of those in the last year or so.

144
00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:21,120
Speaker 1: A lot of the offensive lineman I mean carried That's

145
00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:25,040
Speaker 1: why you couldn't afford to lose Ben roethlis You know,

146
00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:29,120
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph if he had have started this year and

147
00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:33,280
Speaker 1: been Mason rudolphs You're starting quarterback, would his numbers have

148
00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,599
Speaker 1: been remarkably different than those that Roethlisberger put up. I

149
00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,120
Speaker 1: don't think so. I don't think so. Either would have

150
00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:44,920
Speaker 1: been the touchdown passes and you know, ten interceptions and

151
00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,840
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. On paper, it wouldn't look much different,

152
00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:50,760
Speaker 1: But they wouldn't have won nine games. I don't think

153
00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:54,679
Speaker 1: they would have either. You mentioned, you know, we kind

154
00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,440
Speaker 1: of mentioned Stefon Diggs. I threw josh Adllen out there.

155
00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,520
Speaker 1: I have great respect for the Bill's order, nozation. I

156
00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:02,760
Speaker 1: mean that the guys that in charge of Bill's organization

157
00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,480
Speaker 1: came up from Carolina basically, and what I thought was

158
00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,400
Speaker 1: those guys, now, well, it was super smart. If you

159
00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,360
Speaker 1: go back over those couple off seasons, after they drafted Allen,

160
00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:19,680
Speaker 1: all their free agent money went to the offensive side

161
00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,480
Speaker 1: of the ball. All their draft picks went to the defense.

162
00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:26,360
Speaker 1: They drafted Edmonds and Oliver and all those guys. They

163
00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:31,960
Speaker 1: didn't want a young, you know, bucking Bronco quarterback who

164
00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,960
Speaker 1: is loads of ability, but it is there's no fine

165
00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,800
Speaker 1: tuning yet. That's why they traded for Digs. That's they

166
00:09:39,800 --> 00:09:42,440
Speaker 1: went out and they signed like seven offensive linemen in

167
00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,199
Speaker 1: one off season. None of them were superstars, but everyone

168
00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,839
Speaker 1: in that offense early in Alan's career were older guys.

169
00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,000
Speaker 1: And that's really what That's what the Steelers had in

170
00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,480
Speaker 1: two thousand and four with Roethlisberger, right, and they had

171
00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:01,520
Speaker 1: the reciprocal the gang of it. You had veteran offensive line,

172
00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,200
Speaker 1: you had veteran receivers, you had a veteran running back,

173
00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,800
Speaker 1: even two of them. Because you still do Staley that

174
00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,320
Speaker 1: year too, right, you end up going on to be

175
00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,199
Speaker 1: a coach ian. Um. You know, you had you had

176
00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,280
Speaker 1: a good, young, improving defense. You know, they just drafted

177
00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:18,200
Speaker 1: Troy Polamalo and and you know, Casey Hampton was in

178
00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,240
Speaker 1: his third year. You know that these were guys that were, yeah,

179
00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,480
Speaker 1: we're on the on these guys right right, Um, And

180
00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:28,120
Speaker 1: so it was the perfect storm. Can you have you know,

181
00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,079
Speaker 1: what do you have to do to build that. Now,

182
00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,640
Speaker 1: that's what's interesting to me is how will they address

183
00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,679
Speaker 1: the roster in terms of age differences. You don't want

184
00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,240
Speaker 1: to be too young, you don't want to be too old.

185
00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,600
Speaker 1: You know. Um, they're not going to have a thirty

186
00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,360
Speaker 1: five plus year old quarterback. I'm pretty certain of that.

187
00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,080
Speaker 1: And the offense is going to be young. The older

188
00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:51,760
Speaker 1: quarterback is like having five veterans on your on that

189
00:10:52,040 --> 00:10:54,079
Speaker 1: on that same unit. Because every he got the ball

190
00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:59,679
Speaker 1: every every play. You know, he's juju Smith. Schuser said

191
00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,319
Speaker 1: it per friickly after the game that you know, watching

192
00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:07,000
Speaker 1: Ben and running no huddle is like, you know, it's

193
00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,520
Speaker 1: just complete backyard football. He's telling five different receivers, Okay,

194
00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,840
Speaker 1: you run a post, you're gonna run the pattern, watch

195
00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,320
Speaker 1: for the watch for the safety, to jumping inside on this,

196
00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,079
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. Stepping to the line of scrimmage,

197
00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,280
Speaker 1: figuring out who the mic is, snap the football and

198
00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,679
Speaker 1: let it go and doesn't even bad not he's done

199
00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,400
Speaker 1: it eight. You're not gonna have that. You're not gonna

200
00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,520
Speaker 1: have that, right. So now everybody has to they all

201
00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:34,160
Speaker 1: have to be on the same page. Yes, you mentioned

202
00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:35,839
Speaker 1: a great name yesterday, which I don't know if we

203
00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:37,920
Speaker 1: become available or not. But there's others in the mold

204
00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,720
Speaker 1: Jason Kelsey from the Eagles. I bet they go get

205
00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:43,920
Speaker 1: an old center and and I'm not saying he's got

206
00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,640
Speaker 1: to be late thirties, but somebody that's not even just

207
00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,520
Speaker 1: fresh off the first contract. He's gonna be the leader

208
00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:53,000
Speaker 1: of the old line. He's gonna call out every call,

209
00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:54,880
Speaker 1: you know, because the new quarterback might not be able

210
00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,280
Speaker 1: to do those things as well. That's what they thought

211
00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,400
Speaker 1: they were gonna have with David de Castro coming back

212
00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,400
Speaker 1: right better and on that. That's what they thought. To

213
00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,640
Speaker 1: his credit, I think Trey Turner did some of that

214
00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:07,679
Speaker 1: this year, but the cast has been here forever. It

215
00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,680
Speaker 1: would have been different with David, I'm sure. And he

216
00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,480
Speaker 1: had a he had a better resume, you know, pro bowler,

217
00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:17,160
Speaker 1: but he's a better player. Um, you know, he's not

218
00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,280
Speaker 1: the new guy, right. That's the problem is that this

219
00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,559
Speaker 1: guy's coming in and learning this at the same time

220
00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:24,240
Speaker 1: you are. And that might be a problem next year.

221
00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:25,880
Speaker 1: I mean, if they do get a new center, he's

222
00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,320
Speaker 1: gonna have to be the new guy. He's gonna have

223
00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,720
Speaker 1: to be respected, you know, before he gets here. Almost.

224
00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:33,080
Speaker 1: But you know, again, a guy like a Kelsey is

225
00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:36,480
Speaker 1: that respect is everybody knows who he is. Yeah, he

226
00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:40,200
Speaker 1: just won a super Bowl, All Pro this year, Hall

227
00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:44,079
Speaker 1: of Famer. You do pay a little extra for guys

228
00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,160
Speaker 1: like that, without question, without question. I mean, if he's

229
00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:52,679
Speaker 1: gonna turn thoughts and green and your third round picks careers,

230
00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,679
Speaker 1: you know, pointing up more than just the old line coaches.

231
00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,200
Speaker 1: In addition to well, he's worth a lot. He just

232
00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,640
Speaker 1: can't you know, it's not gonna show the stats. Yeah,

233
00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:04,480
Speaker 1: I mean that was you know, when when the Steelers

234
00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:08,400
Speaker 1: gave Cam Heyward a contract extension, there were there were

235
00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,600
Speaker 1: people out there screaming about that, what are they doing that?

236
00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:14,280
Speaker 1: He's thirty two years old, white like, his value goes

237
00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,600
Speaker 1: beyond just what he doesn't feel it which and what

238
00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't feel it's still pretty damn good. It's phenomenal.

239
00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,400
Speaker 1: And they would have been a real big trouble without him. Yeah,

240
00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,079
Speaker 1: I mean if they gave up to another defensive life.

241
00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,720
Speaker 1: But the voice in the locker room, right, the studying voice,

242
00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:31,560
Speaker 1: the voice on the sideline, Um, it goes you know that.

243
00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what that's worth. But

244
00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,440
Speaker 1: it's worth a lot, it's yeah, and it's worth a

245
00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:39,320
Speaker 1: lot of this organization, and there are some organizations that

246
00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,120
Speaker 1: don't value that, and they tend to lose a lot

247
00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:44,600
Speaker 1: of games. Yeah, you know what I mean, there's a

248
00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:46,760
Speaker 1: formula here and that's part of it, you know, part

249
00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:50,079
Speaker 1: of if you look at Let's use the Browns for

250
00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:54,319
Speaker 1: an example, they got very young. They they basically when

251
00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:57,600
Speaker 1: the new regime, the latest regime came, got rid of everybody.

252
00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,040
Speaker 1: Everybody they let you like, they cut Joe Hayden. I

253
00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,280
Speaker 1: mean guys like Mitchell Schwartz, Yeah, who was one a

254
00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:04,880
Speaker 1: ton of games to the Chiefs at right tackle. You

255
00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,280
Speaker 1: couldn't use the starting right tackle, couldn't use Joe Hayden.

256
00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,839
Speaker 1: Remember looking looking at their roster a couple of years ago,

257
00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,480
Speaker 1: and they had nobody on their team that have been

258
00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,600
Speaker 1: been there longer than like two years. That's about say

259
00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,480
Speaker 1: is then you have no homegrown talent. Who's your voice, right,

260
00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,000
Speaker 1: who's your voice that's been there for a while, even

261
00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:23,800
Speaker 1: if it's a new coach. I mean not everyone's going

262
00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:27,840
Speaker 1: to have three coaches in my lifetime situation, but like Jacksonville,

263
00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:29,920
Speaker 1: even the one good year they had where they came

264
00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,960
Speaker 1: up here on one they hired a bunch of mercenaries

265
00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,960
Speaker 1: that didn't weren't there for the long haul. They put

266
00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,440
Speaker 1: in a year, and you know, they were bounty hunters

267
00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:40,040
Speaker 1: in a way, you know. I mean, that's one of

268
00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,400
Speaker 1: the problems with free agents is now they're back to

269
00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,640
Speaker 1: sticking again to no fault of their own. But when

270
00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,040
Speaker 1: you sign a bunch of free agents, they're in for

271
00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,360
Speaker 1: the money, you know, as anyone would be. There's nothing

272
00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,360
Speaker 1: wrong with that. But if you have too many of that,

273
00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:55,440
Speaker 1: then you don't have the you know, the the leadership

274
00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,120
Speaker 1: in the stability. Yeah, who's the guy that that it

275
00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,000
Speaker 1: comes in and says, no, we don't do that here.

276
00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,560
Speaker 1: M anything's on the board, because you could do any

277
00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,320
Speaker 1: you know, well, we did it this way in Carolina,

278
00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:06,080
Speaker 1: we did it that way in Arizona. We you know,

279
00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:09,600
Speaker 1: they're all bringing that into your locker room. All of

280
00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,800
Speaker 1: it's good, not all of it's good, right, or familiarity

281
00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,040
Speaker 1: with the division. You know, we go to since every

282
00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:16,920
Speaker 1: year and we stay here and this is where you

283
00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:19,080
Speaker 1: go and this is why you know, like I didn't

284
00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:20,520
Speaker 1: know about that, you know, I mean, it's not only

285
00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:24,320
Speaker 1: little things. Yeah, it's important. They might be little things,

286
00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,960
Speaker 1: but they stack up, and as they continue to stack up,

287
00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:29,200
Speaker 1: they can become a problem. And all of a sudden

288
00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:33,400
Speaker 1: you have a mountain of this paperwork that just crumbles,

289
00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,120
Speaker 1: crumbles and falls over. There's no tables. Yeah, there's no foundation.

290
00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:40,960
Speaker 1: Without question, this this team has a foundation. And if

291
00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:43,880
Speaker 1: you listen to really people that know the league and

292
00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,840
Speaker 1: how to win, that's the hardest thing to get in,

293
00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,080
Speaker 1: the most coveted thing to get, you know what I mean, Like,

294
00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:52,280
Speaker 1: I don't think when Belichick retires, he's gonna do They're

295
00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,360
Speaker 1: just gonna hand it to some random coach. You'll probably

296
00:15:54,360 --> 00:15:56,320
Speaker 1: go to McDaniels, you know. I mean he knows the

297
00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:58,400
Speaker 1: Belichick way and now you know all these things. You

298
00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:00,720
Speaker 1: know there's something you said for that, Yeah, I mean

299
00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,720
Speaker 1: you know, Art Rooney talked about it. Uh in the

300
00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:08,440
Speaker 1: preseason when we spoke with him, um over at Hines Field. Um.

301
00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,040
Speaker 1: You know, I asked him, like, you know, what was

302
00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,560
Speaker 1: the why did you feel like he needed to give

303
00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,920
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin a three year extension this year? He said, well,

304
00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,560
Speaker 1: we you know, we're gonna be into it going into

305
00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:21,440
Speaker 1: a transition period here, and we want Mike to be

306
00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,520
Speaker 1: the guy who lead into that transition. Comone talked about

307
00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,320
Speaker 1: it when he when he was asked about John Harbab

308
00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,440
Speaker 1: before the last game. You know what, what do you

309
00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:30,080
Speaker 1: you know, what do you think of John harborg is

310
00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:32,640
Speaker 1: you know the I have a ton of respect for

311
00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:35,720
Speaker 1: that guy with what he's built, the environment that the

312
00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,520
Speaker 1: culture that he's built there. You know what to expect

313
00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,880
Speaker 1: from the Ravens every year every year. You know what

314
00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,760
Speaker 1: to expect from the Steelers every year because of the

315
00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:46,840
Speaker 1: foundation it's been built. I mean, I'm sure a lot

316
00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,560
Speaker 1: of you out there listening hate the Ravens. Do you

317
00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:51,720
Speaker 1: think anyone out there thinks the Ravens are gonna win

318
00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,800
Speaker 1: five games next year? I don't care what happens. They're

319
00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,520
Speaker 1: not gonna win five games next year. You know, like

320
00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,800
Speaker 1: I forget who has listened to I was it was

321
00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,240
Speaker 1: Davis Daniel Jeremiah y Brooks today and they're talking about

322
00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:02,720
Speaker 1: Steelers and they're going through all the teams that got

323
00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:05,360
Speaker 1: eliminated this week and they're like, one of the problems

324
00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:07,720
Speaker 1: of the Steelers is they're never gonna be a five

325
00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,960
Speaker 1: or six win team, you know what I mean, like

326
00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:12,919
Speaker 1: blowing it up the different you know, he he was

327
00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:16,320
Speaker 1: eight and eight without a quarterback. They won nine games

328
00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:19,639
Speaker 1: this year with shell of a quarterback, you know what

329
00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,399
Speaker 1: I mean. Like so you almost you almost have to

330
00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,760
Speaker 1: make if you're gonna go the rookie route, and this

331
00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:27,919
Speaker 1: might not be a good year to do it, but

332
00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:30,560
Speaker 1: you almost have to make the names aside, you know,

333
00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,879
Speaker 1: the names aside. Just look at the rankings of whose

334
00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:39,639
Speaker 1: rated where, Um, there's nobody in the top ten. That

335
00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,520
Speaker 1: may change. I think it will, but there isn't now.

336
00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,280
Speaker 1: There isn't there. And if there isn't now, that's because

337
00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,600
Speaker 1: they probably don't belong. There's no one that's overwhelming, right

338
00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:50,639
Speaker 1: and everyone has a different number one. There's no Patrick

339
00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:54,440
Speaker 1: Mahomes here, and even Patrick Mahomes coming out wasn't the

340
00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,280
Speaker 1: tenth pick in the draft, and DeShawn Watson was twelveth

341
00:17:58,320 --> 00:18:00,840
Speaker 1: yea right, right, right, But you have to be aggressive

342
00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,160
Speaker 1: to go get those guys if you if they if

343
00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:07,480
Speaker 1: the Steelers identify, okay, we think player is our guy,

344
00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:11,600
Speaker 1: doesn't matter whoever, and you say that's your guy, You've

345
00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,959
Speaker 1: got to be aggressive and go get him. See I

346
00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:18,080
Speaker 1: think that's a possibility. Is I have no idea how

347
00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:19,800
Speaker 1: the off season is gonna play out. There's been some

348
00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:22,719
Speaker 1: reports and if you had to bet who the Steelers

349
00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,600
Speaker 1: starter is going to be the shortest odds or Rudolph Well,

350
00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,719
Speaker 1: if draft seasons here, with all respect to Mason and

351
00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,600
Speaker 1: they haven't added a name, I bet their thoughts are

352
00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,879
Speaker 1: we're gonna either be happy with one of three of

353
00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:40,880
Speaker 1: them at twenty or we've talked to team twelve, thirteen,

354
00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,320
Speaker 1: fourteen to go get what they hope is Mahomes. But

355
00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,280
Speaker 1: whoever their their favorite guy, even if it's again, you're

356
00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,160
Speaker 1: going to get Watson, or you're going to get whoever

357
00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,600
Speaker 1: right right right, you know, right sitting on your hands

358
00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,520
Speaker 1: and hoping that Aaron Rodgers falls to you at three

359
00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:56,600
Speaker 1: right when you don't need a quarterback, you know, I mean,

360
00:18:56,600 --> 00:19:02,200
Speaker 1: that's not gonna work. Um. But the other thing I

361
00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:05,200
Speaker 1: wanted to mention too, mel Kiper's very doubt and he's

362
00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,800
Speaker 1: been doing this a very very long time. Um by

363
00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,840
Speaker 1: no means is what he says. Gospel. But I was

364
00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,960
Speaker 1: listening to his podcast on the way here too, and

365
00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:13,879
Speaker 1: a couple of things he said, I guess he's working

366
00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:17,480
Speaker 1: on his first mock and he's like I think the

367
00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,080
Speaker 1: over under a first round quarterbacks is four. You know,

368
00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,600
Speaker 1: it's three and a half or four. He's like, I

369
00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,840
Speaker 1: really think that there probably won't be one in the

370
00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,840
Speaker 1: top ten. But we know how this works. No one

371
00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,840
Speaker 1: thought Daniel Jones was going in the top ten in

372
00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:35,440
Speaker 1: January either. And when you get to the Steelers neighborhood Minnesota,

373
00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,040
Speaker 1: and I mean a lot of these teams or the

374
00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,080
Speaker 1: Lions or Texans or a team like that that's picking

375
00:19:41,119 --> 00:19:43,440
Speaker 1: thirty three, that has a bunch of other stuff that

376
00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,879
Speaker 1: can move the twenty, they're gonna start going. Yeah. I mean,

377
00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,600
Speaker 1: and some of them are gonna hit, some of them

378
00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,040
Speaker 1: are gonna hit, some of them won't. Um, that's just

379
00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:56,320
Speaker 1: the reality of it. Uh. But you know, if if

380
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 1: there's if they identify a guy that they want, that

381
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,360
Speaker 1: that they have to have, then you go get him,

382
00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:02,840
Speaker 1: and you go get him. And I know people said, well,

383
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:06,800
Speaker 1: that's not the Steeler way. They haven't been in this situation.

384
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,240
Speaker 1: You don't necessarily trade up to go get like I

385
00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,840
Speaker 1: think they identified Naji Harris, but were they willing to

386
00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 1: give up extra picks to get him? If you would

387
00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:20,679
Speaker 1: have fallen not for a running back, that's that balance that,

388
00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 1: like Tomlin talked about right right that, Yeah, there's a

389
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,199
Speaker 1: price to be paid. Is it worth it for a

390
00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,199
Speaker 1: defensive tackle? Well, no, there's eight other defensive tackles in

391
00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,560
Speaker 1: the streff that we like. We don't have to do that.

392
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 1: Do you have to do it for you know, a safety?

393
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:37,840
Speaker 1: Well no, there's you know, twelve other guys that we

394
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 1: like at that position. When they did it with Devin Bush,

395
00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,959
Speaker 1: they identified to the two they weren't getting either, so

396
00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:48,960
Speaker 1: they made the move, but there was you weren't getting him.

397
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 1: I mean, there's no doubt about it. And I'm sure

398
00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,560
Speaker 1: that the same will be true in the quarterback world.

399
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:58,399
Speaker 1: The chances of the twentie pick coming up and them saying, right,

400
00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,920
Speaker 1: it's quarterback quarterbacks one they like better and the team

401
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 1: twenty one might like the other one better. I mean,

402
00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:07,199
Speaker 1: it's just the way it goes. I mean, two of

403
00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,840
Speaker 1: herse Herbert at four verses five or five verse six

404
00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 1: a year ago. Ye, who's to say, you know, I mean,

405
00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 1: it depends what you want to run, what you want

406
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 1: to ask of them to, or what you value most

407
00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 1: other ship. Yeah, that's that's a big part of it

408
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:23,480
Speaker 1: to it. I mean it can't be overstated. You know,

409
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,679
Speaker 1: maybe if you do go to maybe they don't do

410
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,320
Speaker 1: anything this year, maybe they just go sign a veteran

411
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,439
Speaker 1: guy and say, okay, we're gonna this isn't Yeah, we

412
00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,200
Speaker 1: don't like this crop. We'll see where. We'll see where

413
00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 1: we're at next year. Absolutely, Or you know, everyone thinks

414
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:40,680
Speaker 1: they're the smartest guy in the room, but maybe they

415
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,400
Speaker 1: love Sam how from North Carolina. Everyone thinks he's gonna

416
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,679
Speaker 1: be an early second and they're like, but he's our favorite.

417
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 1: We're gonna get him at twenty, right, and you don't

418
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,400
Speaker 1: do anything, you don't do anything that you're real happy

419
00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,880
Speaker 1: about it. And mel and Todd say, boy, they could

420
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 1: have waited on him and then but they got their guys.

421
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,040
Speaker 1: They got their guy right right. Um, yeah, so it's

422
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:02,840
Speaker 1: it's gonna be really just a super interesting year. I'm yeah,

423
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 1: I'm reating. She's not far away free and she's gonna

424
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 1: be fun. You know. The thing about it is, even

425
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 1: in in two thousand and four, when they drafted Roethlisberger,

426
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 1: they weren't necessarily going into that draft looking for a quarterback.

427
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 1: They had Tommy Maddox on the roster. They still had

428
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 1: Cordell Stewart, They had guys there. They always find this interesting,

429
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,680
Speaker 1: is people now eight team twenty years later? How dumb

430
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 1: were they to think that Tommy Maddox was you know,

431
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 1: okay at the time. These guys don't have you know, foresight,

432
00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 1: like since Ben's retired of answers four thousand times, why

433
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 1: didn't your Browns take Ben the year before? And because

434
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:38,760
Speaker 1: they thought Jeff Garcia was good, Yeah, and he had

435
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 1: been the Pro Bowl quarter they just gave him big money.

436
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,000
Speaker 1: You know, they thought he was good. They didn't think

437
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: they need a quarterback for a year or two, and

438
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 1: they had a third round pick they kind of liked.

439
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,479
Speaker 1: You know, do they read it now? Of course, you know,

440
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,919
Speaker 1: they don't tell you those things on draft day. The

441
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: guys you have aren't that good. They tried to do

442
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,600
Speaker 1: it the other way for a number of years, taking

443
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,239
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks in the weed and and and on and

444
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,320
Speaker 1: on and on right right, you know, thinking they were

445
00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: the smartest guy in the room exactly, instead of just

446
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 1: taking the layup, taking the guy that okay, this guy's

447
00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:11,919
Speaker 1: gonna be a stud. Let's get them right, the mouth garreter,

448
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:14,600
Speaker 1: you know whoever it is, right, Um, so you know,

449
00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:18,480
Speaker 1: there's it's you have to trust the process. You have

450
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 1: to trust the guys who are in charge, the evaluators.

451
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 1: I don't I can't think of anybody out there, um

452
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,679
Speaker 1: that you do you would trust more to do this

453
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,640
Speaker 1: in Kevin coleb exactly right. I mean, we haven't seen

454
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 1: them go quarterback shopping in a long time, but I'm

455
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: pretty sure he's gonna be good at it, you know

456
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: what I mean in terms of I'm not spending this

457
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: much on that free agent, but I'll give you this,

458
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: and I'm sure they'll have some solution in place, as

459
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 1: we always talk about before the draft, with an open ended,

460
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 1: open ended flush to hit that if one of these

461
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: two suits fall, I'm gonna cash in big. But if not,

462
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,000
Speaker 1: I can I'm not gonna lose my shirt. It doesn't

463
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,439
Speaker 1: mean they'll be right about it, but no, it's an

464
00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 1: inexact science to be sure, especially at that position, especially

465
00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:06,359
Speaker 1: that you can't hart of me thinks you can plug

466
00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:08,720
Speaker 1: in anyone to a good situation and they won't fall

467
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 1: on their face, you know, or you can plug studs

468
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: into a bad situation and they might fall in there.

469
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,400
Speaker 1: They still could fall on their face against the foundation

470
00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,920
Speaker 1: and we're talking exactly port Trevor Lawrence goes to Jacksonville

471
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,440
Speaker 1: where Burrow overcame. That to me, I mean, my only

472
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,879
Speaker 1: worry about Burrow after a year or so was can

473
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:30,360
Speaker 1: he stay healthy? And is this organization to bring him down?

474
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 1: He didn't overcome it last year. No, they didn't win

475
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 1: many games with him last year even before he took

476
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 1: a beating and beating. But it wasn't like, boy, this

477
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,800
Speaker 1: guy's going to it. But they continued continue to build

478
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 1: the next form. They spent money in free agency, on

479
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: smart money in free agency. They actually did spend some money,

480
00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: right absolutely, you know, to go get the DJ reader

481
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: and guys with that nature to build that defensive side

482
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 1: of the ball. Not they get a build. He was

483
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 1: the most sack quarterback in the NFL this year. Still,

484
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,960
Speaker 1: Oh I know, I know, I mean their lines bad.

485
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: I mean it's just you know, he's already taken hundred

486
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,159
Speaker 1: sacks in his career and over and he's already had

487
00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,239
Speaker 1: a major injury. Yeah, you know, right, so that has

488
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: to be a concern. You don't love them wrong, but

489
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 1: there it's not out of the wood yet, right, So interesting,

490
00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 1: We'll continue to attract that of course all season long

491
00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 1: and a couple of weeks I will be at the

492
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Uh, looking at some of this proxy. It's

493
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: a good Yeah. Five of the five of the the

494
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: guys who were being talked about his potential first rounders

495
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: are going to be in that game. So I mean

496
00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: I'm interested to see that we practice. Yeah. Interesting thing

497
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 1: is I think it's it's uh, pickt Ritter and who's

498
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:41,160
Speaker 1: the willis or how or strong strong? I think they're all.

499
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: I think I think those three are on the same

500
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 1: on the same roster. So you get to see those

501
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,960
Speaker 1: guys basically running with the same receivers, and I mean

502
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: that's huge. It's huge, and what's what's huge? And you'll

503
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,400
Speaker 1: get a chance to see this, even though if you're

504
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 1: not on the field, watching guys throw next to each

505
00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 1: other is really important. That's a big thing. Come on

506
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 1: their hands. One of the first Senior Bowls I went to,

507
00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: J Cutler came out and there was other good quarterbacks

508
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: that year. I forget who they were, but it was like,

509
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: WHOA that guy, He's different than everybody else here. You know,

510
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: he really was different than everybody else, right right, I

511
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: mean talent wasn't an issue for JA. It was going

512
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 1: to take a break. He is Matt Williamson. I am

513
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 1: Dale Lally. You're listening to the Drive here on Steelers

514
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: Nation Radio