WEBVTT - #85 - Jayson Cash 0:00:01.240 --> 0:00:04.240 All right yo Bulet Cas Show, Bulllet Care Podcast special 0:00:04.240 --> 0:00:07.160 guests in here, my guy Jason Cash. Yeah, Carson Zone 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:10.200 is here, Yes, sir, welcome man, thank you for having me. 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:12.559 I'm glad you're you know, you've been working on so 0:00:12.640 --> 0:00:16.800 much music for I feel like the last few years, 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:21.400 and uh, finally it started for getting music from you, 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:24.720 right right right, yeah for two for two so far. Man, 0:00:25.560 --> 0:00:28.680 congrats just on everything, like for people who don't know, 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:30.680 like kind of give a little bit of a background, 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:32.479 like just who you are, where you're from, and like 0:00:32.520 --> 0:00:34.480 how long you've been doing this rap shit? Man, Man, 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:39.680 I've been. I've been releasing records since MySpace, MySpace dage sure, 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:42.800 like I was dropping on MySpace. I go back to 0:00:42.920 --> 0:00:47.000 like the I remember like some of my first ships 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:49.680 I was dropping. It wasn't even on a platform like 0:00:49.680 --> 0:00:52.000 I used to just make the line links file. Yeah, 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:55.040 I remember those just dropping that shit on Twitter. But 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:59.240 you know I'm from Carson, man, I've been on this 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:02.720 journey for for a cool little minute. Man. Hurdles of course, 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:06.640 waggling through the bullshit, figuring out you know, what works 0:01:06.680 --> 0:01:09.480 what don't work, right, So it's been a it's been 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:12.160 a long journey of just trying to figure out my footing. 0:01:12.520 --> 0:01:15.000 And so now that we're in a position where you know, 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.560 we had the music and now we kind of have 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:21.240 the personnel, it's like, okay, now let's maximize everything that 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:25.240 we're doing. Yeah, you're sitting on a insane cachet of music. 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:27.600 How much? How many songs are like that that are 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:30.240 like that? Are you like these? I like these? Are 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:33.400 you actually like sitting on the ship man? A lot? 0:01:34.040 --> 0:01:37.280 A lot? And that's stuff that's the hard part. That's 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:40.040 the hard part because it'd be like certain songs that 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:42.319 you really really not only do you really like, but 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:44.600 you have a connection to the record, so you're like, damn, 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:47.600 I want this ship to come out and choosing from 0:01:47.600 --> 0:01:50.240 your kids, right, Yeah, that's why I kind of learned 0:01:50.240 --> 0:01:53.320 to stop time stamping the music. Right. Sometimes you'll say 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:56.600 some ship that like it's like, yeah, it's like now 0:01:56.640 --> 0:01:59.120 you can't use that line. It's like something that would 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:01.160 have made sense two years exactly, so now you got 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:02.360 to switch it in in and all that stuff like that. 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:04.880 So I've been trying not to do that with the records, 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:07.680 but now it's it's a lot of stuff and certain 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.200 ship what I've been doing is certain records where it'd 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:12.280 be like I love it, but I understand the business 0:02:12.320 --> 0:02:14.640 that we Okay, this might not m well for me, 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:16.560 So I might take a verse off a record and 0:02:16.560 --> 0:02:18.680 put it on something else, or take a couple of lines, 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:21.520 or rework a car that was on another record. But 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.040 we definitely have a lot of records. Yeah, Kanye used 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:26.560 to do that. You would like hear like like old 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:29.520 school like Kanye mixtapes and he would have like that, 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:33.160 like there was that line that the mayonnaise color bands 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.200 and pushed miracle whips and then you had ended up. 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:37.080 So yeah, I heard it on one of one of 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:40.080 his you know mixtapes when I was in high school. 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:41.800 And then College Dropout came out and he had it 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:44.080 on the Breathing Breath. But it would he would have 0:02:44.200 --> 0:02:46.720 lines like that where he would be like he'd have 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:48.600 a feature come out, and I'm like, man, I heard 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:51.040 that bar on his right. But it makes sense because 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:54.639 why if you're smart enough to know like this song 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:56.000 might not never see the light of day. But I 0:02:56.040 --> 0:02:58.000 said some ship on here. Yeah, So what I try 0:02:58.040 --> 0:02:59.720 to do, I try to be careful like the ones 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:03.040 like you asked me about a song off the record. 0:03:03.040 --> 0:03:04.680 I'm like, I don't know if that song is gone 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:08.560 ever really move. So I stopped playing it for people 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:10.440 because I'm like, all right, I don't want to say 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:12.079 these lines or something else. And people be like, oh, yeah, 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:15.440 I heard that, so it makes sense. That makes sense. Man, 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:20.680 your favorite rapper sugar sugar Free. And now if anyone 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:22.840 who's like heard you or listened to your raps, like, 0:03:23.480 --> 0:03:26.239 it's very evident that he is an influence. It's crazy. 0:03:26.280 --> 0:03:28.120 I was. I was telling him. I'm like, you know, 0:03:28.360 --> 0:03:30.239 especially being from out here, when people will hear you, 0:03:30.280 --> 0:03:32.040 they'd be like, oh, you sound like like I used 0:03:32.080 --> 0:03:34.040 to take when I was first taking label meters. They 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:35.720 was telling me like, man, you sound like the Crosby 0:03:35.760 --> 0:03:39.560 team between Kendrick and school Boy Q. And you know, 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.160 I get it. But I always tell people like, if 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:45.400 you really know, like if you really know, you know 0:03:45.440 --> 0:03:48.200 what it is, like, Yeah, that's that's sugar Free reincarnated. 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:51.000 Yeah that's I mean. The first time I heard you, 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:53.480 like on Instagram or Twitter or whatever it was, I 0:03:53.520 --> 0:03:56.480 was like, yo, he's I hear the Sugar Free influence 0:03:56.560 --> 0:04:00.240 like heavily. You know what I'm saying, and I know that, 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:02.560 you know, you just posted a video of you guys 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:04.440 get a studio together. I believe you played me a 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:08.040 song where he's on it. Yeah, how big of a 0:04:08.120 --> 0:04:11.480 deal is that, Like, you know, bigger than signing the deal. 0:04:12.120 --> 0:04:14.920 That's crazy, man, So it kind of give us that 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.400 that story. I literally just posted the video right now. 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:19.320 We're in the studio and he telling me about how 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:21.000 he fuck with my style and I'm like, shit, I 0:04:21.040 --> 0:04:23.440 took your shit right and just made him my own. 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:25.479 Like I was literally tell him. I'm like, it's like 0:04:25.520 --> 0:04:28.400 having a space jam ball, Like I just went to 0:04:28.440 --> 0:04:30.080 you and I'm like, I can't take your power. But 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:33.919 it's like I just took you know, your cadences inflicted 0:04:33.920 --> 0:04:36.320 because I mean, I ain't no pimp. I've never you 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:43.039 know before, but I fucked with you know, his message him, 0:04:43.120 --> 0:04:45.560 his message being the fact that this is what I'm 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:47.560 gonna talk about, This is what I'm gonna be on 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:50.200 and I don't give a fuck about nothing else but this. 0:04:50.880 --> 0:04:52.359 You know what I mean. You ain't never heard sugar 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:55.520 free this nobody. You ain't never heard him talk bad 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:57.919 about nobody on record. He was like, I dedicated my 0:04:57.960 --> 0:05:00.200 career to this and I fucked with that, you know, 0:05:00.240 --> 0:05:01.520 and then just the way that he did it, it it 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:03.320 was just yeah, his delivery. I feel like, you know, 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:05.240 we don't give enough props to sugar Free when it 0:05:05.240 --> 0:05:07.320 comes to like how unique of an artist he was. 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:11.480 It's very charismatic, real conversational, you know, like and nobody 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:13.680 sounded like sugar Free ever. No, you know, like if 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:16.400 you think about like his era, there was nobody who 0:05:16.400 --> 0:05:19.200 you could be like, like you could box him in 0:05:19.240 --> 0:05:21.560 with right right, right, and it's so crazy. One of 0:05:21.600 --> 0:05:23.840 one you hear certain people that got the influence. Like 0:05:23.880 --> 0:05:25.279 I was in the studio and one take Jay and 0:05:25.320 --> 0:05:27.520 I was just and I was listening to him. I'm 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:29.560 like I was telling the hummies. I'm like, damn me, 0:05:29.600 --> 0:05:32.080 and won't take Jay rapped the same way, Like we 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:36.600 just do it different, but we both took his cadences. 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:38.520 Like when I was really listening to like a song, 0:05:38.839 --> 0:05:40.719 I was like, damn, he raps the same way I would, 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:43.200 because what it is is it's a swing. So we're 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:45.880 not rapping directly on the one, you know, you might 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:49.479 be slightly before it or slightly talking to Free about that. 0:05:49.560 --> 0:05:52.880 It's like certain people you hear that, so they might 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:55.839 say you sound off beat, but it's not really you know, 0:05:55.960 --> 0:05:59.720 off beat, And that's like why blast beats are so smooth, 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:02.640 because the drums are hitting different. So if you wouldnad 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:05.360 your head like this to a certain song, now you 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:08.359 this way, because it's just a slightly different brood. So 0:06:08.400 --> 0:06:11.320 I'll do that with the raps, but no like sugar 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:13.520 free shit man. I met him a couple of years ago. 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:16.800 I had popped up at this at this spot he 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:19.800 was performing at We'll go my way backstage or whatever, 0:06:20.520 --> 0:06:22.960 you know, introduced myself and was just letting him know 0:06:22.960 --> 0:06:24.880 what he meant to me. I got cool with one 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:27.280 of one of his artists, pomon the Dirt. Shout out 0:06:27.320 --> 0:06:30.320 Pomona Dirt, but we stayed kind of tapped in on 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:32.960 the ground, so they were doing something else. I popped 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.600 up there. Pomona Dirt took me to the little backstage 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:38.320 area so I got to you know, chop it with 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:41.880 Fred again. But that was like twenty eighteen. I hadn't 0:06:42.120 --> 0:06:46.120 physically seen him since, so it was crazy because when 0:06:46.160 --> 0:06:48.520 he got to the studio, like you know, I got 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:50.480 these dark ass shades all right, right right, I had 0:06:50.520 --> 0:06:52.400 these shits on in the booth and I was recording 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:55.479 with my eyes closed. I look up and this motherfuckers 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:58.760 then walked into the booth and I'm like, oh shit, 0:06:59.080 --> 0:07:01.120 you know, nobody even told me. You know that he 0:07:01.200 --> 0:07:03.320 was like there at the time. So I come out 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:05.240 there and he was like, man, I've been looking for you. 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:07.600 I've been looking for you for like two three years. 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:10.120 Like god damn, Like I would never think that, right, 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:12.200 you know. So he remembered you for meeting the backstage, 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.400 but he was like, I want to sign you. He's like, 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:18.000 I've been looking for you. That motherfucker telling me I've 0:07:18.000 --> 0:07:19.680 been looking for you in the daytime with a flash, 0:07:19.760 --> 0:07:23.600 like man, my lions. I you know what's crazy about 0:07:23.600 --> 0:07:26.400 sugar Free is he's one of the only rappers who 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:30.440 when I met him, it was the exact like as 0:07:30.440 --> 0:07:32.200 a kid if he told me I'd meet Sugar Food 0:07:32.240 --> 0:07:36.560 one day, exactly what he was in Las Vegas at 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:39.480 the Planet Hollywood Miracle Mile Mall walking through the mall 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:44.480 with two females on leashes and he was performing that night. 0:07:44.520 --> 0:07:46.040 It was like old school West Coast show was like 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.840 ice Cube, Snoop Too Short, like Sugar Free. He was 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.160 walking through the mall. He had two girls on leashes, bro, 0:07:51.720 --> 0:07:55.000 And I was like, this is amazing, right, this is 0:07:55.080 --> 0:07:57.520 exactly what I what I had hoped for when meeting 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:00.320 Sugar Free, Like, how about this is a yeah? Fuck 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:03.280 keep it suited and booted. I said, this is this 0:08:03.320 --> 0:08:08.720 is incredible. I asked this sneak man, I said, I said, 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:11.600 I said, man, while you was like pimping, like full 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:16.440 fledged pimping, man, Like, how did you like like lock 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:18.480 in so heavy on your craft man and keep your 0:08:18.520 --> 0:08:21.280 wrapsight because you stopped he stopped pimping after the first 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:23.320 album and all that ship, you know what I'm saying. 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:27.640 So he looked at me, bro, like I got to say, 0:08:27.680 --> 0:08:30.400 if I didn't have shave his own, bro, I would 0:08:30.440 --> 0:08:33.040 have folded. I'm talking about. He looked at me so cold, 0:08:33.120 --> 0:08:36.320 like he was looking through me, right John and my lion. Bro. 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:40.960 That motherfucker he said, just like this, you know how 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:44.560 to walking to you bubba gum. At the same time, 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:51.080 I laughed like that right, He didn't say nothing. He 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:54.600 just kept looking at me. All right then all right 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:59.720 then I was like, oh shit, this motherfucker is for real. Damn. 0:09:00.440 --> 0:09:04.000 He wasn't playing bro. He like he's stared through me. 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.160 And he said that it's so funny because I like, 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:07.839 I'll be in the car, like with my wife and 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:10.000 I'll be listening to sugar Free sometimes and she'll be 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:13.880 it so like, what the fuck are you listening? What 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:17.199 is this guy saying? Like it's crazy because like it's unfortunate, 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:22.360 like like sugar Free couldn't exist in twenty twenty one. 0:09:22.840 --> 0:09:26.000 He gets fucking canceled. Man, Man, they'd be like, what 0:09:26.760 --> 0:09:30.360 by my ex she knew, like she got in my 0:09:30.360 --> 0:09:32.360 car she heard the sugar Free I'm not fucking with you. 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:34.120 I used to cut that shit on. Let her know, 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:38.079 like I'm not. That's great. That's how you put somebody 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:40.440 under conviction. You cut that free on. Man, you throw 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:43.160 that sugar Free on. Like, listen, listen, man, listen better 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:45.760 listen to these words, listen to these lyrics. Nah, y'all. 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:48.240 But I love sugar Free. Like I told him at 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:49.800 the end of the night when he was like, man, 0:09:49.840 --> 0:09:52.040 thanks for having me, you know it. Just love appreciate you. 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:53.640 And I was just saying to him, I'm like, man, dog, 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:56.760 I owe you, man, like taking your style. I was 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:58.840 able to go get a deal and provide for myself 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:01.160 and my family. That's incredible and that's just the Also 0:10:01.200 --> 0:10:03.480 the fact that you're very like you pay homage to him, 0:10:03.480 --> 0:10:06.200 because a lot of people they don't have the humility 0:10:06.240 --> 0:10:08.080 to do such as right he said, he was like, man, 0:10:08.120 --> 0:10:09.360 he was like, I fuck with the fact you said 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:11.480 it in front of you know, all your boys. I'm like, nah, 0:10:11.480 --> 0:10:13.360 they all know. I love you, man, Like you know, 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:16.160 everybody know. I ain't ashamed of that. Like I just seen. 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:19.600 I was talking to g Perico on Sunday and I 0:10:19.679 --> 0:10:21.720 was telling him some things about him that I super 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.920 fuck with. And any artists that that I'm a real 0:10:25.000 --> 0:10:28.080 fan of that I really fuck with, like like my 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:29.720 boy will tell you. I was in there with Dom 0:10:29.760 --> 0:10:31.320 and I was saying, like, dog, I warn't my hats 0:10:31.360 --> 0:10:32.880 the way I war on because of you. I'm not 0:10:32.880 --> 0:10:35.560 one of them rappers that's too cool to give up. 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:37.800 To give up. If you see somebody and you fuck 0:10:37.840 --> 0:10:39.760 with it, you let him fuck you, let him know 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:41.920 that you fuck with it. Me and Mike and Me 0:10:41.960 --> 0:10:43.440 and Mike from Mike and Keys, we was we was 0:10:43.920 --> 0:10:47.040 talking about Supreme because I'm really into you know, superb ship. 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:48.480 So we was talking about it and we was like, man, 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:50.560 you know, the first motherfucker we were seeing in that 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:53.240 ship was Casey Veggie's Facts. But I'm like yeah, I 0:10:53.240 --> 0:10:55.680 was like, bro, Casey was one of the the first 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:58.840 young fly dudes. Like yeah, people, people don't give you know, 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.679 Casey enough credit when it comes to like what him 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:05.000 and and what were doing like twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:06.960 and just that whole movement when it came to like 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:10.000 the fashion and like right, you know. So we was 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:12.600 talking about that shit and then Casey pop up at 0:11:12.640 --> 0:11:14.960 the spot where was at. So I was telling I 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:17.160 was like, nah, yeah, I remember, you know, because I 0:11:17.160 --> 0:11:19.120 started quoting these lyrics to him from this this shit. 0:11:19.160 --> 0:11:21.160 He had caught the Pennies back in the day. So 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.480 I rapped it to him. He's he laughing rapping it 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:25.120 with me and shit, and I was like, yeah, I 0:11:25.160 --> 0:11:27.880 remember the video. You had them brown and purple the 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:30.480 Supreme Timberling joints. So it was like damn, like I 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:33.240 for sure did. I'm like yeah, but like I'm I 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:35.320 know I could rap, bro, Like you know what I'm saying, Like, 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:37.120 I know I could rap. I know what I'm gonna be. 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:39.240 I know where I'm going, I know where I'm headed, 0:11:39.440 --> 0:11:41.079 but I don't I don't feel no way letting the 0:11:41.120 --> 0:11:43.400 motherfucking know like hey, nah, I fuck with you or 0:11:43.440 --> 0:11:45.800 at this specific time, there's certain shit you did inspire 0:11:45.840 --> 0:11:49.240 me be cause I mean, like that's important, man, because 0:11:49.280 --> 0:11:51.520 at the end of the day, like I'm confident in myself, 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:54.960 nobody is. Nobody got to where they are in whatever 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:57.400 field you're doing. And when it comes to art, you 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:59.960 know what I'm saying. Without without having people who inspire 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:03.800 then right and to act otherwise, it's crazy. Right. Yeah, 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:05.360 don't get me wrong. We get on the court, you 0:12:05.400 --> 0:12:07.040 know what I mean, I'm still going of course, Yeah, 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:08.800 but you gotta give it. Like it's like bro like 0:12:08.880 --> 0:12:10.520 of course, like even like me, like you know, the 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:14.240 first time I'm at Big Boy or you know, it's 0:12:14.280 --> 0:12:18.120 like yo, like you're I grew up like listening to you. 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.720 You know what I'm saying, Like this is like crazy 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.920 that I know you now. I still yeah, but it's 0:12:23.960 --> 0:12:26.720 like dude, like you're a fucking legend, Like thank you 0:12:26.800 --> 0:12:32.000 for everything you've done for industry. Yeah, Like I'm here 0:12:32.040 --> 0:12:33.720 because you know, like you know what I mean like 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:36.200 so I always try to do that, especially with like, 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:41.440 you know, certain radio dudes like who you know. You know, 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:43.439 I kind of came up doing like an underground hip 0:12:43.440 --> 0:12:47.520 hop specialty show, right, but that came from Friday Night Flavors, 0:12:47.559 --> 0:12:49.720 which was on a Powerwan six with mister Chalk and 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:53.480 those guys and uh you know that they kind of 0:12:53.480 --> 0:12:55.960 and and when I met Sway, I was like, dude, 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:59.360 like I used to buy the Swaying King Tech Freestyle 0:12:59.440 --> 0:13:02.319 CDs and like you guys are like what I wanted 0:13:02.360 --> 0:13:05.400 to be. I wanted to just play underground rap music. 0:13:05.960 --> 0:13:09.520 But about that is when you give somebody their flowers 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:11.400 like that a lot of time, it's some game that 0:13:11.440 --> 0:13:14.840 come back with it, for sure, Like you learned a lot. Yeah, 0:13:14.880 --> 0:13:16.760 like Sway, Bro. 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For people who don't know like you 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:55.840 and Blast, you got a new record out. But like 0:14:55.880 --> 0:14:59.000 you guys are very much rooted in this game together. 0:15:00.440 --> 0:15:03.200 You know a lot of people who are just getting 0:15:03.240 --> 0:15:07.200 up on Blast don't realize he's kind of like he's 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:09.720 not new. He's been a factor in the scene as 0:15:09.720 --> 0:15:12.280 far as being a producer, engineer. I mean, he can 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.840 do it all. You know. He's kind of like LA's Russ, 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:19.200 but you know Russ always brags it. He mixes the 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:21.520 masters and records himself and makes the beat. I'm like, yo, 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:23.480 Blast is all that shit. I was saying, More like 0:15:23.520 --> 0:15:26.840 he like a liked a new quick for sure, Nah 0:15:26.880 --> 0:15:29.560 for sure, But like you guys got got it out 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:31.960 the mud together, and you had told me some stories 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:33.680 about like some early stuff with you and Blast. Will 0:15:33.720 --> 0:15:35.560 kind of give me a background on how you guys 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:38.160 met and you guys just kind of come up. Has 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.400 been kind of synonymous, you know what I'm saying. I 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:44.240 met Blast. I went to school with his nephews, So, 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:46.320 like I was at school rapping and shit like that. 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.760 So I guess it was going on. Yeahs just do 0:15:48.840 --> 0:15:51.840 it at the school, cash or whatever. So we were 0:15:51.880 --> 0:15:54.520 working with some of the We were around some of 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:59.000 the same people early because his nephews were rapping and 0:15:59.040 --> 0:16:01.800 it was this producer and Carson name named Joseph. He 0:16:01.840 --> 0:16:03.840 went by stunning Bee. But I know Blast was like 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:06.920 recording shit at stunning Bee crib right. But like it 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:11.240 was like Christmas break of like two thousand eight, damn, 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:14.040 Like we had linked up at everybody had went up 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:17.920 to Calstate Domingus again from Carson, So everybody went to 0:16:17.920 --> 0:16:20.480 cal State Dimingas was like having this football game and 0:16:20.560 --> 0:16:22.320 Blast came up there with his nephews. That was my 0:16:22.360 --> 0:16:25.200 first time. Oh wait, yeah I met Blash. Oh right, 0:16:25.880 --> 0:16:29.880 that's a long time ago, man, Yeah, it's thirteen years ago. Yeah, 0:16:30.120 --> 0:16:32.480 so at what point in time did you guys start 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.520 to have like a creative relationship where you guys started 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:40.440 to make music together. So we did a song back then. 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:41.960 I think I did my first song with Blast when 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:44.520 I was like sixteen. He had this, He sent me 0:16:44.560 --> 0:16:46.840 this record. It was called Gohart. This was the first 0:16:48.000 --> 0:16:50.360 the first song I ever deal with Blast was called Gohart. 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:52.920 So he sent it to me and I recorded it 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:55.440 at home and I sent it to him and he 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:58.239 was like, Yo, can you send me like the wayfil 0:16:58.640 --> 0:17:01.120 I'm like, what the fuck is this? Nick? You know? 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:03.480 I found out later like the first person that put 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:07.760 him on like mixing and shit was Chris O'Bannon. O'Bannon 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:12.879 was around back then too, But yeah, so yeah, we 0:17:12.920 --> 0:17:15.479 did that record back then. I don't even know if 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:20.120 that ship ever came out, But what ends up happening, 0:17:20.400 --> 0:17:24.040 I want to say. I always just was seeing them around, 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.200 like going to different ship, like leaving parties and coming 0:17:27.640 --> 0:17:29.960 to the Dennis and Carson and seeing him in the 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:32.960 Homie PJ there and just going out to spots and 0:17:33.040 --> 0:17:36.960 running into him. And then I had did the La Cipher, 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:40.320 which was breezy in the street ship and Blast was 0:17:40.320 --> 0:17:42.199 doing all the beats for it, et cetera. So I 0:17:42.200 --> 0:17:44.840 went up there and I did it, and I won, 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:47.919 and so like one of the prize was like you 0:17:48.000 --> 0:17:50.080 do a session with Blast and Blast does the beat 0:17:50.200 --> 0:17:54.440 or whatever something like that. So I had pulled up 0:17:54.880 --> 0:17:58.800 and I recorded with him. But at the time, I 0:17:58.840 --> 0:18:02.160 was recording with this dude named Kytel, which is Reasons engineer. 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:05.560 So I had a session. But the day I had 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:08.040 the session with Kytel, he told me his studio burned 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:10.520 down Jesus. So I asked Blast, because I come and 0:18:10.520 --> 0:18:14.600 record the record with him. I was doing a verse 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:17.960 for my homeboy from my neighborhood castone. So I pulled 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:19.960 up over there, I did the record with Blast, and 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:22.560 I just started recording with Blast on the regular after that. 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:29.320 So this was I want to say, twenty sixteen maybe, 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:32.360 So you guys are kind of reconnected around like we 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:35.840 were seeing each other like all right, created each other creatively, 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:40.080 you guys stride around. We started we started back like 0:18:40.720 --> 0:18:44.240 being around each other like on the regular, like twenty sixteen. 0:18:44.840 --> 0:18:46.439 So I was over there like we was in the 0:18:46.440 --> 0:18:51.040 studio with each other every day, just moving around and 0:18:51.080 --> 0:18:59.880 then yeah shit, Blast was I think when I trying 0:18:59.880 --> 0:19:03.400 to think, I did a Yeah, we did a song. 0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:06.479