WEBVTT - SUNDAY SAMPLER - The Nashville Podcast Network (9-15-24) 0:00:08.800 --> 0:00:10.280 Hey, everybody's Sunday Sampler time. 0:00:10.480 --> 0:00:13.400 We'll get to some Sore Losers movie Mike's Movie podcast, 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:16.160 but we're gonna start with a little bit of Doctor Josie. 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:18.400 It's the final episode of season one of In the 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:21.279 Vets Office and Caroline Hobby stop Buy had her three 0:00:21.320 --> 0:00:23.840 month old puppy, Ruby, and they talked about what you 0:00:23.880 --> 0:00:26.040 need to know whenever you have a puppy, because I 0:00:26.040 --> 0:00:28.320 think anytime we get a new puppy, we're like, holy crap. 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:30.360 What they talked about, what to do and what not 0:00:30.400 --> 0:00:30.720 to do. 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:31.920 Let's get started. 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:32.120 Now. 0:00:32.159 --> 0:00:34.560 Here's a clip of this week's episode of In the 0:00:34.640 --> 0:00:41.720 Vets Office with Doctor Josie. 0:00:43.080 --> 0:00:47.800 Yeah, you're listening to In the Vets Office with Doctor 0:00:47.880 --> 0:00:48.840 Josie Horshak. 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:54.360 Right, So we got Ruby on a whim and I 0:00:54.400 --> 0:00:55.840 am not following any of the rules. 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:58.840 This is my daughter's dog. Thankfully. Ruby loves to. 0:00:58.880 --> 0:01:01.400 Rough house, goes to She and Sunday and Ruby like 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.560 play and wrestle all the time. But just working on 0:01:04.560 --> 0:01:06.959 the potty training. They were seventy percent there. She is 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:11.560 sleeping in the bed. Oh or I'll talk about that. 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:14.800 Not sure about the food situation because she started off 0:01:14.800 --> 0:01:16.560 with one food. Then when eat it and tried to 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:18.760 give her another one, and then she got diarrhea. 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:22.479 And so I'm just like the basics of starting up. 0:01:22.400 --> 0:01:25.600 A dog and perfect you know, I guess, nailing down 0:01:25.720 --> 0:01:27.880 what you need to do in the beginning I could use. 0:01:28.080 --> 0:01:29.839 Really, the potty training is my number one. 0:01:29.959 --> 0:01:33.160 Yeah, it is so important when they are at this age, 0:01:33.160 --> 0:01:35.600 they're very impressionable, and we're setting them up for success 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:38.560 for the rest of their life. Because Ruby og, we 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:40.959 know how that plight, we know how that goes. So 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:44.360 remind me Ruby two point zero. We'll call her. She's 0:01:44.600 --> 0:01:47.360 fourteen weeks. Yeah, okay, I'm a big proponent. 0:01:47.000 --> 0:01:47.440 Of the crate. 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:48.840 Okay, it is. 0:01:49.120 --> 0:01:52.280 Yeah, it is soul sucking for someone like me who 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:53.200 is a dog mom. 0:01:53.400 --> 0:01:55.400 I like, live for my dogs. 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:58.360 I feel like I'm torturing them, especially puppies when you 0:01:58.360 --> 0:01:59.880 put them in the crate and they cry. I mean, 0:02:00.000 --> 0:02:02.360 it's just like the worst thing in the world. But 0:02:02.560 --> 0:02:05.000 it is going to set you up for success. Tell me, okay, 0:02:05.040 --> 0:02:06.680 tell me why, and then how do you do the crate? 0:02:06.880 --> 0:02:08.280 So you want to make sure you get to create 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:10.200 a The size is super important. We want to get 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:12.320 to create that isn't too big. We want it to 0:02:12.360 --> 0:02:14.919 be big enough where she can get in it, move 0:02:14.960 --> 0:02:17.160 in a circle, kind of lay down and get subtled, 0:02:17.160 --> 0:02:18.760 but not big enough that she can go to one 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:20.280 side of the crate and pee and poop and then 0:02:20.360 --> 0:02:21.760 skidad all over to the other side. 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:24.120 Okay, So she has to be like just enough. 0:02:23.880 --> 0:02:27.320 To correct, like somewhat confined, but not big enough for 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:31.560 her to run around in it. So size is really important. 0:02:31.639 --> 0:02:33.799 I think it's nice to have like the metal wire 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:36.239 ones where they can see out, and then at night, 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:37.960 if she's in her crate, which she should be, you 0:02:37.960 --> 0:02:40.359 could throw a blanket over it. That way, it's nice 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:43.200 and dark and it is far and away our best 0:02:43.200 --> 0:02:45.440 tool for potty trading. Can they make it through the 0:02:45.440 --> 0:02:48.239 whole night at fourteen weeks? The kind of rule of 0:02:48.280 --> 0:02:50.919 thumb is for every month they are plus one, that's 0:02:50.919 --> 0:02:53.000 how many hours they can hold it through the day. 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:57.440 Usually by this time around fourteen weeks, some of them 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.480 can hold it overnight. But you probably are looking at 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:01.600 getting up once in the early morning to take her 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:02.560 out to go potty. 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:03.200 And will she like cry? 0:03:03.320 --> 0:03:06.280 You think she Once she gets great trained, she'll probably 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:07.919 whine to let you know she needs to go out. 0:03:07.960 --> 0:03:11.160 There's some puppies that are gonna whine because they just 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:12.760 want to be with you. But it's almost like a 0:03:12.760 --> 0:03:15.120 baby where you start to understand, like are you crying 0:03:15.160 --> 0:03:16.799 because you want my attention? Are you crying because you 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.480 need to go potty? But you're I mean fourteen weeks. Gosh, 0:03:19.480 --> 0:03:21.480 you've only got another like three or four weeks. And 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:22.760 she'll be able to hold it through the. 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:24.639 Evening well just because she is sleeping in the bed. 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:25.520 I have noticed. 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:28.120 I took her out like at eleven last night, and 0:03:28.200 --> 0:03:30.120 she did make it till like six this morning. Okay, 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:31.800 that's great. So now we know that she can hold it, 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:34.400 so this is perfect. So yeah, I would doing it 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:38.120 all wrong, That's okay, that's okay. So create is so important. 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:40.920 I tell owners potty training is on us. If they 0:03:40.920 --> 0:03:43.160 have an accident in the house. We don't necessarily want 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:46.160 to punish them because we aren't necessarily doing our job. 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:50.040 And it's very kind of saying it, saying you messed up. Yeah, yeah, 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:51.800 I don't. I'm not gonna say you messed up, but 0:03:52.600 --> 0:03:55.640 want that so during the day they need to go out. 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:57.640 It feels like one hundred times. 0:03:57.240 --> 0:03:57.760 All the time. 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:00.640 Okay, so how often do we need That's like huge, 0:04:00.720 --> 0:04:02.520 It's like every thirty minutes you gotta take them out, 0:04:02.600 --> 0:04:05.720 or what is every time after they eat, after they drink, 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:09.560 after they wake up from a nap, after they're done playing. 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:10.880 I mean it is like constant. 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.440 Do you say, like, go potty, go body, I sady, yep, 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:15.600 go potty, give them the chance to go. I Also, 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:18.320 I am really big on if you are going to 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:20.960 peepad train, no stick with pea pads for all of 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:23.160 you out there that are ppad training. Worst, if you're 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:25.200 not going to peepad train, like long term, you want 0:04:25.240 --> 0:04:27.560 them to go outside, do not start peap pads at all. 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:31.520 Oh be really confusing for the peapads or the visit 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:33.160 the bane, the veine of my existence. 0:04:33.200 --> 0:04:36.400 The bane of my existence got me both. Yeah, because 0:04:36.560 --> 0:04:38.000 they just don't quite get the peapad. They'll put their 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:39.839 front paws on it and they're pee on the carpet. 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:42.760 I mean, yeah, congratulations to people doing well with peapads. 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:43.479 I never have And. 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:45.200 There's a lot of like little dogs and high rises 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:46.920 that do great in the right right. But when we're 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:49.440 potty training some people be like, well, I'm using peapads 0:04:49.440 --> 0:04:50.680 for now, and then I want them to go on 0:04:50.720 --> 0:04:54.280 the grass, and that just is really difficult. So so 0:04:54.360 --> 0:04:57.400 go outside, go to the same spot and the same spot. Yep. 0:04:57.560 --> 0:05:01.560 Make it really consistent, really can really routine, same spot, 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:04.240 and then I find a really high reward treat that 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:06.800 they love. I had one dog that was so hard 0:05:06.800 --> 0:05:10.400 to potty train that I got turkey hot dogs and 0:05:10.440 --> 0:05:13.280 I slice them into tiny pieces and the only time 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:14.920 she got a piece of a turkey hot dog is 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:16.839 when she went potty outside like she was supposed to. 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:19.520 And that just kind of helps them. It helps it click. 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:22.400 So you say, good potty, here's your treat, like right then, 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:23.920 right then and there, so you have it with you 0:05:23.960 --> 0:05:25.159 when you take them outside. 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:27.040 You want to have treats in your pockets at all 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.360 times when you have a puppy. So okay, okay, go out 0:05:29.400 --> 0:05:30.440 with your turkey hot dogs. 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:32.919 As soon as soon as she goes, give her a 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:34.720 little bit, tell her she did a great job. And 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:36.360 then you go right back inside, and you want to 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:38.400 make it like, hey, you did an awesome job. Like 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:41.919 your neighbors are going to think you're insane, but you know, 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:42.920 lots of reward. 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:45.280 Okay, yeah, okay, okay, okay. 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:47.880 So so put in their credit at night right when 0:05:47.880 --> 0:05:49.719 you wake up, take her outside with the treat, have 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:53.640 it ready, yep? Then feeder, then feeder, and then right 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:54.839 back out to go potty again. 0:05:55.200 --> 0:05:57.200 And how long do you wait after they eat? I 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:58.400 typically will go. 0:05:58.360 --> 0:05:59.000 Right after they eat. 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:00.920 It takes her a lot of poop, and like I'll 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:03.200 take her out and then she'll pee, and then we'll 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:04.720 hang out there for a while and then she just 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:06.799 woll poop and then she'll come in and poop inside 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:10.240 that what is that? That is just her being young 0:06:10.279 --> 0:06:12.440 and not getting it yet, So just stick with it. 0:06:12.640 --> 0:06:15.320 Once she goes potty, I would only give her like 0:06:15.320 --> 0:06:16.880 a minute or two to go poop. If she's not 0:06:16.880 --> 0:06:18.960 going to do her business, then it's back inside because 0:06:18.960 --> 0:06:21.599 they can get kind of distracted a butterfly, you know, 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:25.960 and they're like pooop, yeah exactly, So back inside, give 0:06:25.960 --> 0:06:27.160 them a few minutes, and then you can go back 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:30.000 out again and give it another shot. And then during 0:06:30.040 --> 0:06:32.839 the day when you were not directly supervising her in 0:06:32.880 --> 0:06:37.159 the crate. In the crate, I know it's it's soul sucking. 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:39.279 I'm telling we just let her when we leave, we 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:42.000 just leave her in the house. Oh Lord and Almighty. 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:47.080 That I feel about that, doctor, I don't feel great 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:51.720 about that. I mean, I suppose in some puppies it works, 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:54.160 but in ninety nine percent of them, it's a recipe 0:06:54.200 --> 0:06:55.040 for ruby og. 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:56.159 Okay, okay. 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:57.640 So as soon as I leave here, I need to 0:06:57.680 --> 0:07:00.560 go get a crate. Yes, definitely, you can on Amazon. 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:02.760 You can get them at any pet store. Get a 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:04.560 create immediately, yep, get it create immediately. 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:05.159 And the crate. 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:07.440 That's a whole other thing is we want it to 0:07:07.480 --> 0:07:09.480 be a place that they want to go. 0:07:09.640 --> 0:07:10.440 How do you make it that? 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:11.080 So I throw a. 0:07:11.080 --> 0:07:13.720 Little blanky in there, not not too much stuff, but 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:15.400 I'll blanket if you want to put one of your 0:07:15.400 --> 0:07:17.840 t shirts in there that smells like you. 0:07:17.880 --> 0:07:19.000 Throw it in a room. 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:22.120 Where you guys are often in, typically like a living room. 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:24.360 Leave the door open. That way, she can kind of 0:07:24.560 --> 0:07:28.040 come and go as she pleases. Lots of positive reinforcement, 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:31.760 so treats when she goes into her crate. Some people 0:07:31.800 --> 0:07:34.600 will like even feed them there. If they're food motivated, 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:37.560 they'll feed them their meals in the crate, so they 0:07:37.640 --> 0:07:40.520 just we want to associate the crate with positivity. We 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:42.360 don't ever really want to use it as punishment, like, oh, 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:43.520 you Pete in the house, I'm going to put you 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:43.960 in your crate. 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:44.840 We do not want to do that. 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:46.080 Oh that's good advice. 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:48.560 And if you don't have a Kong, I would get 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:52.240 a cong. Those are like those rubber volcano looking toys. 0:07:52.560 --> 0:07:53.400 Put that in the crate. 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.560 I typically put like a little tablespoon of peanut butter, 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:58.760 throw it in the freezer. And then when you put 0:07:58.760 --> 0:08:00.200 her in her crate and you're leaving to like run 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:02.800 an errand it's like, Hey, I'm going on my crea. 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:04.320 This is not the end of the world because. 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:04.560 I have a cong. 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:06.240 I have an amazing peanut butter filled kong. 0:08:13.400 --> 0:08:17.440 The first songs you learned was it for me? It 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:19.120 was a lot of classic rock stuff. And I'm not 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:20.560 the player that you are, but I remember just. 0:08:20.480 --> 0:08:21.320 What I what I would learn. 0:08:21.320 --> 0:08:22.920 I would learned like Metallica stuff, because some of that 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:27.640 stuff was easy. I'd learn like some using like tab. 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:29.840 I would learn like some. 0:08:31.240 --> 0:08:31.800 Guitar times. 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:34.959 Yeah, I don't even use tab anymore. But at the beginning, 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:36.520 it was really good for me to learn, you know, 0:08:36.640 --> 0:08:39.040 six three. But what what was that for you? What 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.040 did you want to learn? What did you learn first? 0:08:41.400 --> 0:08:44.400 I can't read music at all, period whatsoever. I don't 0:08:44.440 --> 0:08:47.720 read a chart. I hardly know the Nashville skills here, 0:08:48.400 --> 0:08:50.679 Like I know enough to understand what they're talking about, 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:54.079 but I don't. I've never been able to. It doesn't 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:57.439 translate with me. So it's all about ear. That being said, 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:00.080 the first things that I kind of learned when I 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:03.400 started playing guitar, I mean, simple Man, Smoke on the Water. 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:06.120 Those are all like dittymoke on the Water. 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:08.360 Army. 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:12.520 Yeah, yeah, But like when you talk about getting into 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:15.959 like ultimate guitar tabs and like all that kind of stuff. 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:18.880 Like the first ones that I remember putting together all 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:24.040 the way through were Drake White songs. Probably the first 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:26.560 ever was probably a simple Man letter Skinnered. That was 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:29.040 probably the first one, top to bottom that I learned 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:29.680 all the way through. 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:31.960 How long until you could actually sing and play? 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:37.560 Oh god, it took a while, man, it was, you know. 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:40.120 And I'm not the I'm not I'm. 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:41.720 Still not the player that I want to be when 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:43.920 it comes to this hand, you know, or this one, 0:09:44.200 --> 0:09:48.640 you know. But it took a while, and my timing 0:09:48.760 --> 0:09:52.080 used to be so weird, so weird, man. 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.719 What about because it haven't you know, we get to 0:09:57.800 --> 0:09:59.079 know you a little bit over the past couple of 0:09:59.160 --> 0:10:01.600 years the time that we spent together. You're not a 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:05.880 guy it's gonna walk into a room and just demand everybody's. 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:08.400 Attention when everybody's just hang around talking. You don't say 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:08.800 a lot. 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:10.840 You have a big presence because you're a big guy, 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.040 and you definitely dress like you're gonna murder someone if 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:17.959 they cross you. However, I would not, just by knowing 0:10:18.080 --> 0:10:20.280 you as a person, think well, this is a guy 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:24.199 that wants to get on stage and sing or talk 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:27.400 or entertain in any way whatsoever. Now did you have 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:30.640 the same demeanor younger? And was your dad and your 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:31.319 family like. 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:32.720 You want to do what? 0:10:34.040 --> 0:10:36.920 My dad never wanted us to lay brick and block, 0:10:37.040 --> 0:10:42.640 So anything other than that was very welcome in our family. Now, 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:45.000 my siblings have taken over the family business and they're 0:10:45.000 --> 0:10:46.960 doing that, you know. But they all went out and 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.360 had their time in the world and chase their dreams 0:10:49.400 --> 0:10:52.520 and they've come home and you know, all that stuff. 0:10:53.400 --> 0:10:55.840 But no, he wanted anything other than what he was doing. 0:10:55.960 --> 0:10:58.000 He had to be so surprised though, and maybe he wasn't, 0:10:58.000 --> 0:11:01.319 but that you wanted to go entertain people, because again, 0:11:01.640 --> 0:11:04.040 if you meet you, you don't think, well, he wants 0:11:04.040 --> 0:11:05.600 to get on stage and just rock people's face off. 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:06.480 You're like, that guy's. 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:08.439 Probably I don't know what kind of mobb he's in, 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:13.880 what kind of cattle he's trading, who knows, But you know, 0:11:13.920 --> 0:11:16.920 your personality on stage is large. Your personality here it's 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:22.320 very compact. Your demeanor is very straightforward. People can hear 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:24.520 that I used to be scared of you, not anymore, 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:26.400 but he's scared of you when I first met you 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.560 because I was like this, dude, he hates my guts, 0:11:29.600 --> 0:11:32.320 but I would compare like you, and I'm friends with 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:36.960 Kane Brown. I thought Kine hated me because Kine doesn't 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:40.240 say a whole lot, no, no man, a few words. Yeah, 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:42.880 Now that I know Kane and love Kane like, that's 0:11:42.880 --> 0:11:44.480 one of the things I love about him. It's like 0:11:44.600 --> 0:11:46.520 he's still who he is off stage, but then when 0:11:46.520 --> 0:11:49.160 he gets on stage he puts it on again. Were 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:50.920 they surprised that you wanted to get on stage and 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:51.320 put it on. 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:55.200 It definitely took some time to grow on my mom. 0:11:56.360 --> 0:12:01.240 She didn't quite understand. She didn't quite not fathom it 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.880 at first, but she was like, I don't know, honey, 0:12:05.080 --> 0:12:07.800 you know, I don't know. And I'm also talk about 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:10.080 two and a half three years before she was like, okay, 0:12:10.280 --> 0:12:10.679 let's go. 0:12:11.120 --> 0:12:12.599 It's also got to be weird too, because where I 0:12:12.640 --> 0:12:16.360 come from, nobody did anything in the art community because 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:18.920 they worked at the mill. Like they worked at the mill, 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:21.920 or they had a job, you know, just because where 0:12:21.960 --> 0:12:23.760 you and I both come from, it's not like people 0:12:23.800 --> 0:12:27.440 move off and are, for my case, work on radio 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:29.360 and TV or your case, they don't move off and 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.040 become country stars. So it's not the people say you 0:12:32.080 --> 0:12:34.320 can't do it, but they don't know that you can 0:12:34.360 --> 0:12:36.520 because no one else really does it around. 0:12:36.320 --> 0:12:39.160 Yeah, and the only the only people that the only 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:44.200 references we had from around home, you know, coming from construction, 0:12:44.240 --> 0:12:47.280 we don't know the music industry, right. The only references 0:12:47.320 --> 0:12:51.520 we had were brothers Osbourne and Nuggie Rose. You know 0:12:51.600 --> 0:12:56.839 they Maggie's from Mechanicsville and the brothers are from literally 0:12:56.960 --> 0:13:01.520 twenty used to life fires the same place as they did. 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:04.840 Yeah, you know that hasful though, to see those guys 0:13:04.840 --> 0:13:07.920 and see that they were doing it, and it because again, 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:08.319 there is. 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:12.360 Normal I know their parents. There is normal and blue collar. 0:13:13.280 --> 0:13:16.240 And there's like two hundred and fifty of them of them, 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:20.400 of the of the OSBA. It's it's nuts, man, It's 0:13:20.440 --> 0:13:25.240 it's nuts. I've met fifteen uncles of theirs. 0:13:25.520 --> 0:13:27.440 They They've been. 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:31.400 Really good to us over the last couple of years. 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:35.600 The first big ass show that we did was Delaware 0:13:35.640 --> 0:13:38.560 State Fair with them, and I remember choking so bad. 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:40.280 I choked on Hallelujah. 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:43.560 On Ryan Bingham's Hallelujah, I've been playing the song for 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.320 three years and just too much happening in my brain 0:13:46.480 --> 0:13:48.959 and just completely choked on it. But that was the 0:13:49.000 --> 0:13:50.600 biggest show that we had done to that date, and 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:53.240 they were so good to us and have. 0:13:53.440 --> 0:13:54.880 And have continued to be. 0:13:55.280 --> 0:13:59.960 But there they were the only they were the only 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:03.040 even close to us that we were like, that's dope, 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:04.600 you know what I mean? 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:06.600 Like and humans like us can do that? 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:11.200 Yeah, because that I mean, I think representation, regardless of 0:14:11.240 --> 0:14:14.679 what it is, you were kind of being represented by 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:18.199 somebody showing that if you want to do it, and 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:19.000 you're good enough to do it, and you. 0:14:19.000 --> 0:14:19.800 Work hard enough to do it. 0:14:19.800 --> 0:14:48.880 It actually can be done personally. 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:51.640 Visuals than. 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:58.280 This episode is all about careers and finding happiness within success. 0:14:58.600 --> 0:15:00.520 I have on Ashley Stall, who is a. 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:03.800 Career coach with years of experience, talking about the best 0:15:03.840 --> 0:15:06.640 way to discover your direction in life and how to 0:15:06.680 --> 0:15:10.080 find fulfillment in a career. Then Melissa Schleichner joins me. 0:15:10.280 --> 0:15:13.480 She's a celebrity makeup and hairstylist, most known for her 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:16.600 salon Parlor three in Nashville. And of course we're being 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:20.240 Carrie Underwood's full time hair and makeup stylist for over 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:32.000 seventeen years. Making the leap to a new job can 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:36.400 also be super scary. How can one know or feel 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:39.840 that they're making the right move for themselves, because that's 0:15:39.880 --> 0:15:41.400 a really terrifying place to be. 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:41.720 You know. 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:43.960 I think that life is really an experiment and you 0:15:44.040 --> 0:15:46.080 need to be willing to take what you know and 0:15:46.120 --> 0:15:49.080 with the best of your knowledge, move forward. Fulfilling and 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:53.000 successful career really has three lily pads, is what I've found. 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.240 The first lily pad is kind of what the majority 0:15:55.240 --> 0:15:57.960 of the workforce unfortunately chooses to be in, which is 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:00.680 they're fine, and they're fine with being fine, and maybe 0:16:00.680 --> 0:16:02.640 they don't love what they do, they like it enough 0:16:02.880 --> 0:16:04.880 or it pays the bills and they stay there. There's 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:08.120 a certain population that swims from lily pad one to 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:10.600 lily Pad two, which is where my work really is 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:12.800 geared to take people. That's about really figuring out where 0:16:12.800 --> 0:16:15.120 you're a gifted and where your talents are. So if 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:18.120 you're willing to swim from being fine to really finding 0:16:18.120 --> 0:16:20.920 your gifts, you need to go through an unknown and 0:16:20.960 --> 0:16:25.040 an experimental period. Clarity comes from engagement. It's never going 0:16:25.120 --> 0:16:27.560 to just come from thinking. You can't think. It's like 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:30.200 rocking in a rocking chair, just thinking and ending up 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:33.640 in the same place. Ultimately, a certain level of thinking 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:36.600 got you to where you are, And as Albert Einstein 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:39.320 has set in many of his quotables, you need to 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.480 do something new to get somewhere new. That comes down 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:45.080 to experimenting. So in order to get to that second 0:16:45.080 --> 0:16:47.280 lily pad, there comes a point where you need to 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:50.040 say this feels like it's aligned with my core skill 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.920 set and really understand your core skill set is a 0:16:53.000 --> 0:16:56.560 huge umbrella with many different options beneath it and many 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:58.920 different ways of expressing yourself beneath it. 0:16:58.960 --> 0:16:59.960 And once you lock. 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:03.080 In to a role that's using your gifts, people notice 0:17:03.120 --> 0:17:07.000 your magic because it's actually rare, unfortunately, to see someone 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:09.960 in a role where they're really aligned with their skills. 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:11.600 And you know it, if you think about. 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:13.240 Your work right now or your team right now, you 0:17:13.359 --> 0:17:15.840 know there's one person that comes to mind where they're 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:18.960 really shining because they're locked in with their skill set 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:21.080 and people always want to get and that's the thing. 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:23.639 A lot of research shows that the most talented and 0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:26.280 high impact person is the most burnt out person because 0:17:26.280 --> 0:17:28.359 people see how gifted they are and they want to 0:17:28.400 --> 0:17:30.200 give them more work because they can trust them to 0:17:30.240 --> 0:17:31.959 get it done with a lot of shine on it. 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:35.040 And so I think going into that experimental period, trying 0:17:35.119 --> 0:17:37.640 things on that gets you onto that second lily pad 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:40.000 where you're working in your zone of genius, and from 0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:43.600 there life becomes a game of opportunities. You start to 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:46.800 sift between your yeses and your nose because once people 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:49.480 start to see someone really talented, they start to ask 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:52.359 them and offer them different opportunities. And the thing with 0:17:52.440 --> 0:17:55.119 opportunities is that they can be a very high form 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:58.679 of distraction, because sometimes opportunities are a yes for you, 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:01.040 other times they're just distracted you and they're not actually 0:18:01.119 --> 0:18:03.200 what you're meant for. So your job, when you get 0:18:03.200 --> 0:18:05.800