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Speaker 6: It's gonna get a little chippy out here. Yeah, I

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Speaker 6: guess we're else. It's getting chippy. You like that?

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Speaker 9: A good transition on the practice field quality.

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Speaker 1: Getting chppy on the practice field quality.

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Speaker 6: We're getting into practice, We're getting into this. Day four, Day.

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Speaker 1: Five, Well, were two practices down.

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Speaker 6: Now, okay, fair enough, shoddy address the fights that were

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Speaker 6: happening at camp. We saw one early on day one,

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Speaker 6: No big deal, A little skirmish, no big deal.

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Speaker 6: Day two was a little interesting, a real chippy. Maybe

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Speaker 6: a punch or two thrown. I don't know. Sources say maybe.

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Speaker 1: A source informed there was a couple of punches thrown.

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Speaker 6: Shotty talked about it. Punches can't be We can't be

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Speaker 6: throwing punching out there. Can't do it is And I

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Speaker 6: know he's talking about a new culture and being intense,

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Speaker 6: finding ways to be intense, but you have to be

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Speaker 6: disciplined at the same time. Boy, is this this is

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Speaker 6: toxic culture that we're seeing in Brian Schottenheimer.

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Speaker 8: No, I mean this is normal. I think this is football.

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Speaker 6: I think you heard it from contact sports.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's a contact sport.

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Speaker 9: And these are these are guys who have been wanting

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Speaker 9: there's gonna be plenty of opportunities for you to go

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Speaker 9: you just gotta know how to practice, right, and you

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Speaker 9: gotta know how to practice. This is their first time

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Speaker 9: practicing under Brian Schottheimer. I think you know as well

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Speaker 9: pushing and shoving, that's one thing, right, Like that's naturally

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Speaker 9: got in a shove match. Throw the ball and that's fine.

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Speaker 9: These guys are going at it there. You know, I

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Speaker 9: think Dak put it really well, in his in his

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Speaker 9: You know, they're fighting for their livelihood out here. So

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Speaker 9: it's intense. It's gonna be high pressure and naturally, is

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Speaker 8: So you just can't let it boil over too far.

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Speaker 1: Is it toxic? Absolutely not.

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Speaker 7: You know what I would view as toxic, uh a

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Speaker 7: football team, Well, of course, but a football team that

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Speaker 7: doesn't show physicality, does not show intensity, he shows some

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Speaker 7: type of you know, lackadaisical behavior toward what is another

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Speaker 7: pivotal season for the Dallas Cowboys. I mean, this is

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Speaker 7: a pressure pecked season for reasons on several layers. Of course,

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Speaker 7: the most prevalent is going to be the fact that

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Speaker 7: you're bringing in a new head coach. But on top

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Speaker 7: of that, this is his first time as an NFL

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Speaker 7: head coach. He has a lot to prove as early

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Speaker 7: as year one. So if you're Brian Schottenheimer, you want

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Speaker 7: and I love what Dak Prescott said yesterday about it.

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Speaker 7: He said that it's about walking the line. He said,

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Speaker 7: it's a fine line.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me.

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Speaker 7: It's about being competitive but not being combative and that's

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Speaker 7: what it needs to be. But he said it's healthy,

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Speaker 7: and I agree with Dak Prescott it is healthy. But

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Speaker 7: I also agree with Brian Schottenheimer and saying you can't

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Speaker 1: You absolutely can't throw punches. A shovy match here and there.

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Speaker 7: Okay, Fine, that's called alpha males squaring off in a

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Speaker 7: circle and getting their business on. Okay, But when it

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Speaker 7: with a huge scrum and a couple punches were thrown

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Speaker 7: you're going to ultimately have a hard time policing it

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Speaker 7: in a game when that third down is on the line,

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Speaker 7: the line, and that's going to be the difference. Especially

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Speaker 7: that can be the difference between you making the playoffs

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Speaker 7: being able to control what you can control. You can

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Speaker 7: And on top of that, I am eternally on the

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Speaker 7: on the level of one of the dumbest things I've

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Speaker 7: you throw a punch of a guy wearing a helmet? Yeah,

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Speaker 7: the helmet always wins.

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Speaker 8: It's always a good question.

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Speaker 6: It's an interesting decision. But as you're saying, you know,

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Speaker 6: motions are high, you have you're competing and getst one

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Speaker 6: of them, showing that there.

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Speaker 6: I like seeing it. But as brianon shot number said

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Speaker 6: that there has to be a way to discipline it.

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Speaker 6: And another thing that you wrote in your article following

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Speaker 6: off the field for throwing punches. It's not good. We've

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Speaker 7: Here's what I said, and feel free to check out

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Speaker 7: the article on Dallas Cowboys dot com that I wrote

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Speaker 7: based upon what Shody said about how he's policing and

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Speaker 7: how he expects the Dallas Cowboys to act in practice.

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Speaker 7: And for those of us that were present in real time,

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Speaker 7: it was refreshing to see Schottenheimer's response, Oh, he.

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Speaker 1: Got into it.

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Speaker 7: If we got into it, there were f bombs flying

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Speaker 1: What did Schattahammer say, don't do it.

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Speaker 7: Don't do it because Schottenheimer is going to penalize these

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Speaker 7: So ultimately to your point, Josh, like I said in

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Speaker 7: the article, intensity plus control equals wins equal success. That's

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Speaker 7: how you do it. You need to be the most

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Speaker 6: And holding players accountable, I think is a huge part

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Speaker 6: of it too. And holding the coach except responsble.

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Speaker 1: What accountability word again?

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Speaker 6: It keeps coming up.

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Speaker 1: Coming up with Schoenheimer's culture. Okay, I like that. I

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Speaker 1: like tasty, spicy.

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Speaker 6: Another thing you guys can control, or are the players

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Speaker 6: can control on the field, turnovers. Yes, that's been a

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Speaker 6: past couple of days. You're seeing a lot of turnovers.

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Speaker 6: You're seeing the defense making a lot of plays now,

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Speaker 6: I guess outside looking at and when you hear about interceptions,

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Speaker 6: I think at practice, especially a training camp, when you're

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Speaker 8: It is.

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Speaker 6: My thing is fumbles, ball security. We're seeing quite a

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Speaker 6: couple of days, instilling those things. Does that concern you

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Speaker 9: Not necessarily, you know, I think the fumbles that we've seen, right,

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Speaker 9: I think when you think about earlier in practice, these

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Speaker 8: These are training camp reps to where, hey, they.

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Speaker 9: Want everybody to run through the finish, right, they want

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Speaker 8: It was a great play.

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Speaker 7: And now will say there have been a bad pass

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Speaker 7: After the on defense and it's going to what Schottenhammer

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Speaker 6: Well, keep me honest, do the interceptions kind of give

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Speaker 1: I'm fine seeing it in training camp.

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Speaker 6: It's training camp, and it's the first one to get

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Speaker 9: It's no training I thine like, I think that sometimes

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Speaker 9: Every quarterback does. It's gonna have And you know, this

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Speaker 9: Brian Schottenheimer wants. I don't know if if Dak necessarily

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Speaker 9: with Brian Schottenheimer, if there's necessarily a lot that he

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Speaker 9: a lot of install and you know, getting these guys

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Speaker 9: getting comfortable to running backs tack Prescott's never played with,

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Speaker 9: and right now they don't have pads on, so we

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Speaker 8: The running backs. So no, it doesn't concern me at all.

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Speaker 9: It's gonna happen, and it it's.

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Speaker 8: Gonna happen again.

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Speaker 9: Prescott's gonna throw more interceptions during training camp, but he's

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Speaker 9: also gonna throw touchdowns. I mean, I thought the offense

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Speaker 6: Well, wasn't it. After the Mollie Cooker interception. Immediately following

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Speaker 6: that play was one of the best passes I'd seen

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Speaker 1: Yeah, George.

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Speaker 6: That and not to mention just the relationship that in

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Speaker 7: It bears mention in what you just said in that

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Speaker 1: Time of his life's out here.

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Speaker 7: And if you don't believe less, there are plenty of

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Speaker 7: You know, the grenade celebration.

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Speaker 6: Just that from us. Actually we typically do that after

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Speaker 7: Were like, oh, well then I got it from ronald'cunye.

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Speaker 7: So but I mean, yeah, I got it from Ronald d'acunya.

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Speaker 7: I I Thommas got it from Ronald mc but no, again,

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Speaker 7: multiple looks, multiple sets, right, so they're trying to install

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Speaker 7: multiple things under center Shotgun. You saw Dak Prescott take

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Speaker 7: is react to an offense that's.

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Speaker 1: Still working out a lot of tweaks.

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Speaker 7: So are there some you know, throws that Dak Prescott

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Speaker 7: and Joe Milton and Will Greer want back through.

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Speaker 1: The first two practices, Absolutely there are.

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Speaker 7: There are some bad throws there, but then there are

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Speaker 7: kudos to the defense. But again to your point, do

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Speaker 7: I care about am I worried? Should I say, am

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Speaker 7: I worried about interceptions and training camp?

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Speaker 1: No? Because this is when you experiment.

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Speaker 7: This is when you see what works, so that when

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Speaker 7: Shout out to wrestling with the Bros. I'm always going

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Speaker 7: to shout out my feeling. My fellow wrestling Officionado, shout

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Speaker 7: outs my god man, all Cowboys fans who are also

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Speaker 7: Big wrestling fans or.

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Speaker 1: The b w W, a w T and they whatever

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Speaker 1: the case may be, we love you.

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Speaker 6: R I P to the Hulkster, not the other guy.

445
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Speaker 6: All right, boys, one offensive player, one defensive player that

446
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Speaker 6: stood out the most in Week one. All right, I

447
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Speaker 6: need you guys, give me just one one apiece. Tommy,

448
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Speaker 6: you want to go.

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Speaker 9: First, Well, defense is easy, Donovan is roku defense. Well,

450
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Speaker 9: defense is pulled?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what did I just It's a bar either way?

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Speaker 9: You did actually exactly what I was going for. No,

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Speaker 9: the defense is easy, and Donovan is making it look

454
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Speaker 9: very easy. See that's even better. But you know this

455
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Speaker 9: guy's when we were talking about him on the Draft show,

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Speaker 9: I think in the point that we made a lot

457
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Speaker 9: of times was, hey, this is a guy who is

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Speaker 9: one of, if not the more pro ready.

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Speaker 8: Guys coming out of the draft.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 8: This is a guy who led the A, C, C

462
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Speaker 8: and sacks last year.

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Speaker 9: He won the word for the best college football defensive

464
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Speaker 9: end last year, and he was just dominant at Boston College.

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Speaker 9: And I think yesterday was the day, like it's his

466
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Speaker 9: second practice was really good, but yesterday was a day

467
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Speaker 9: where you know, when I was doing training camp a

468
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Speaker 9: love with Mickey or just standing on the sideline on

469
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Speaker 9: the back of the end zone, I'm like, man, he

470
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Speaker 9: is beating everybody. I mean, his first step is unbelievable.

471
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Speaker 9: He's got great bend. The bend is something that we

472
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Speaker 9: talked about all the time with him, where he can

473
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Speaker 9: just blow past you and he can use his arms

474
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Speaker 9: really well to just make the right move and beat

475
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Speaker 9: the tackle. And you know, Tyler Guiden's a guy who

476
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Speaker 9: has had some good reps, but man, Donovan is rock

477
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Speaker 9: who had him beat bad a couple of times out there.

478
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Speaker 9: And so you know, we've talked about a lot of

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Speaker 9: the defensive end room, like this is one of the

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Speaker 9: more deep rooms that the Cowboys have on.

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Speaker 8: This roster deep. Indeed, there you go. If Donovan is

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Speaker 8: a Rock turns out to be the second.

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Speaker 9: Best defensive end on this team behind Michael Parsons, the

484
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Speaker 9: Cowboys are going to be.

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Speaker 8: Set there for years to come. Because I think this

486
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Speaker 8: kid's the real deal.

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Speaker 9: He's going to be a really good football player for

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Speaker 9: a really long time, and he's just starting to show

489
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Speaker 9: the flashes here early of what he can be.

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Speaker 6: Patrick, before you give your defensive give me a little

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Speaker 6: bit more about easy.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's funny you meant you say that, because that's also.

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Speaker 8: My I feel like that.

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Speaker 9: I feel like there's guys who has had good days,

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Speaker 9: but as a Rocket, the last two practices just blows.

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Speaker 7: You'll be a consensus right now and everything Tommy said,

497
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Speaker 7: and let me add to this, he's already and I

498
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Speaker 7: tweeted this as a rookie, no exaggeration, no, how perfectly

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Speaker 7: as a rookie coming into the league, he's easily one

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Speaker 7: of easyly one of the best. Should yeah, one of

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Speaker 7: the best technicians at his past rush that I've seen,

502
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Speaker 7: and not just so rookie as a rookie, not just

503
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Speaker 7: so technically sound in one or two moves. He has

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Speaker 7: the array of pass rush moves and the ability in

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Speaker 7: Schoenheimer said this to me yesterday or before when I

506
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Speaker 7: asked him about easy He said, he has the ability

507
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Speaker 7: to set the edge as well, which we're seeing as

508
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Speaker 7: far as run defense on the edge goes.

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Speaker 1: But when you talk.

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Speaker 7: About for the dip the bend, the first step is

511
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Speaker 7: absolutely insanity. His first step is instantly comparable to two

512
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Speaker 7: players on this defense in this defensive end room, Michael

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Speaker 7: Parsons and Sam Williams.

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Speaker 6: Insane.

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Speaker 7: And that is an insane compliment for a rookie who

516
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Speaker 7: did not play at a huge program. But by the way,

517
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Speaker 7: he's a record setter at his program in Boston College.

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Speaker 1: You see everything you need to see from this guy

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Speaker 1: and more.

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Speaker 7: That not only justifies him being the second round pick,

521
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Speaker 7: but you start to wonder why he fell out of

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Speaker 7: the first round.

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Speaker 6: But to that point, though, when you're choosing a defensive

524
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Speaker 6: end one of the most important positions in our game,

525
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Speaker 6: but when you're choosing one in the second round, you're

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Speaker 6: typically drafting a guy that has a move maybe hey

527
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Speaker 6: traits all the possibilities high ceilings. What this guy is

528
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Speaker 6: showing you out here is that he looks like he

529
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Speaker 6: has as sort of all of those things combined into

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Speaker 6: one package. For a second round defensive end of his

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Speaker 6: caliber to be picked that late in the second round,

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Speaker 6: it's impressive.

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Speaker 9: And you know, I'm gonna use the line from my

534
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Speaker 9: good friend Vach Lombardi.

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Speaker 8: Teams don't know how to draft.

536
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Speaker 9: Teams don't know how to draft, and so you know,

537
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Speaker 9: when we look back at this draft three years down

538
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Speaker 9: the line or five years down the line or something,

539
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Speaker 9: you're gonna look at guys ahead of down of Azeraku

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Speaker 9: if he, you know, continue Obviously we don't know what

541
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Speaker 9: kind of career he's gonna have, but I could very

542
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Speaker 9: well see a scenario where it's like, how on earth

543
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Speaker 9: did you think this guy was gonna be better than Azaraku?

544
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Speaker 9: And you know, it just goes back to when I

545
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Speaker 9: talked to Bill O'Brien about this kid earlier in the

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Speaker 9: off season after the Cowboys drafted him.

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Speaker 8: You know, there's he's a little bit undersized.

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Speaker 9: You know, he's not necessarily the tallest guy at defensive end,

549
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Speaker 9: he's not necessarily the stockiest guy, but he's just so

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Speaker 9: technically sound. And that's what Bill O'Brien, who has seen

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Speaker 9: some very good defensive ends in his day, namely a

552
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Speaker 9: guy like JJ Watt.

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Speaker 8: You know when he was with the Houston Texans.

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Speaker 1: What he did.

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Speaker 8: I think. So it's a bit hard.

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Speaker 9: Or something, but you know, this is a guy who

557
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Speaker 9: just finds a way to get him too the backfield.

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Speaker 8: And it's a guy who's.

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Speaker 9: You know, was he's the first person that Bill O'Brien

560
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Speaker 9: that when he took the job at Boston College. This

561
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Speaker 9: is a guy who loves football and he loves being

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Speaker 9: a leader on his team. So it wouldn't shocked me

563
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Speaker 9: at all if this guy is a centerpiece for the

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Speaker 9: Cowboys defense going forward.

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Speaker 7: And now I'll say this one final inclosing on Israeku

566
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Speaker 7: is his ability coming in? And well, it's early. We'll

567
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Speaker 7: see what his trajectory continues to look like, but my god,

568
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Speaker 7: is he off to a fast start. But what it

569
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Speaker 7: does is we're sitting here talking about a rookie after

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Speaker 7: day two being the biggest defensive standout in a defensive endroom. Granted,

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Speaker 7: Michael Parson is not on the field right now, but oh,

572
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Speaker 7: by the way, Dante Fowler's out.

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Speaker 6: There, and Dante Fowler's on a revenge tool.

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Speaker 7: And Dante Fowler looks fantastic and we're still talking about

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Speaker 7: Israelku a rookie, so Ezraku doing what he's doing, it's

576
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Speaker 7: gonna push Dante Fowler even more so than Dante's already

577
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Speaker 7: been pushed on his revenge tour. Coming off a career season,

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Speaker 7: Sam Williams has more than enough motivation to get out

579
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Speaker 7: there already, having missed all of last season with a

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Speaker 7: toWin ACL talked to Sam yesterday and he said, with

581
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Speaker 7: a smile, when it comes, when the pads get on,

582
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Speaker 7: he was like, I'm going to try to kill somebody

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Speaker 7: at least once.

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Speaker 1: He was like, already has He said, I want everybody

585
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Speaker 1: to be safe. This is his quote.

586
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Speaker 7: He said, I want everybody to be safe, but at

587
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Speaker 7: least once, I'm going to try to kill somebody.

588
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Speaker 8: He killed Tyler Neville on the first day.

589
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Speaker 7: So it's point bean when you see this level of

590
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Speaker 7: ability within this defensive end room, including Azeraku, this level

591
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Speaker 7: of competition where they're looking at each other saying anything

592
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Speaker 7: you can do, I can do better, And let's not

593
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Speaker 7: forget Marshawn Kneeling first camp interception. And he's also going

594
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Speaker 7: to look the challenge as well, he's still my dark

595
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Speaker 7: horse as far as breakout potential, breakout player in camp.

596
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Speaker 7: This defensive end room, we talk about the concerns rightfully

597
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Speaker 7: so about defensive tackle, defensive end.

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Speaker 1: I have no concerns. He's very exciting.

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Speaker 6: Okay, I'm gonna change it up a little bit. Obviously

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Speaker 6: easy is the standout on defense, and especially for a

601
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Speaker 6: rookie at this point, I want to be a little different,

602
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Speaker 6: and I want to look at one Marris Lea foul. Boys,

603
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Speaker 6: he's flying out, He's flying, he looks lean, he looks

604
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Speaker 6: so fast. From his interview now on Dallas cowys dot com,

605
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Speaker 6: he was saying that the game is sort of slowing

606
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Speaker 6: down for him. The way I've seen him diagnosing defenses

607
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Speaker 6: so far is not typical in the way that you

608
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Speaker 6: would see a second year player now learning a brand

609
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Speaker 6: new defensive scheme. I'm surprised to see that sort of

610
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Speaker 6: jump from him so far having to learn a new

611
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Speaker 6: defensive scheme. So I really do want to give a

612
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Speaker 6: quick shout out to Mary sleefoul. But what do you

613
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Speaker 6: guys seeing on the field. You guys are definitely on

614
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Speaker 6: there a lot more than I am, so I kind

615
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Speaker 6: of want your emphasis on this.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, no, marys Leefoul is a guy who, you know,

617
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Speaker 9: towards the end of the year last year, got more

618
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Speaker 9: opportunities and got to make the.

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Speaker 8: Most of them.

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Speaker 9: This is a guy who is better as a blitzer

621
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Speaker 9: than I think people give him credit for.

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Speaker 8: But a super smart player.

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Speaker 9: He had all the smarts coming out of order day

624
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Speaker 9: and he was a five year player I think at

625
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Speaker 9: Notre Dame. So this is a guy who's played a

626
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Speaker 9: lot of football, He's played at a high level.

627
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Speaker 8: And who knows the game really well.

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Speaker 9: And that's what this coaching staff has always been very

629
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Speaker 9: complimentary about him with. And you know, he's got a

630
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Speaker 9: coach in Matti Refluse that kind of has the mind

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Speaker 9: as touch when he comes to linebackers, right, this guy

632
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Speaker 9: has a very strong track record of producing high end linebackers.

633
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Speaker 9: I mean, you just look back in Chicago Tremaine Edmonds,

634
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Speaker 9: and of course I'm blanket on the other guy's name.

635
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Speaker 9: I can literally see his number, but I beg your pardon.

636
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Speaker 9: But this is a guy who knows linebackers, who knows

637
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Speaker 9: the position really well, and he has a past history

638
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Speaker 9: of making sure that these guys play well in his system.

639
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 9: But also making sure these guys know the position really

640
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Speaker 9: well and can be leaders on the defense. So whether

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Speaker 9: that's Maris Leefou who in his rookie season was the

642
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Speaker 9: backup green Dot to Eric Kendricks, which I think says

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Speaker 9: a lot about his football acumen and his knowledge of

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Speaker 9: the defense already. Obviously, transitioning to a new system may

645
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 9: change things, but you know, this is a guy that

646
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Speaker 9: the Cowboys are looking and hopefully continue to take the

647
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Speaker 9: next steps and continue to get down so that he

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Speaker 9: can get some more playing times.

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Speaker 7: And to Tommy's point, as far as Meris being, you know,

650
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Speaker 7: getting tutored and talked and coached by Matt Eberflus when

651
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Speaker 7: Iberflus was here in his first stint with the Cowboys

652
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Speaker 7: and his linebackers coach. Yeah, he had an insane talent

653
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Speaker 7: in Sean Lee. Unfortunately, you know, fifty couldn't stay healthy. However,

654
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Speaker 7: the talent was there. You saw what Sean Lee was

655
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Speaker 7: able to do win healthy. But then he coached up

656
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Speaker 7: guys like Anthony Hitchins to getting big free agency deals.

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Speaker 1: Right being effective at what they were doing.

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Speaker 7: So this is the type of coach that Meris is

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Speaker 7: is combining his ability with and the ability is through

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Speaker 7: the roof because even coming out of Notre Dame, what

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Speaker 7: was one of the biggest positives for him, It was

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Speaker 7: football acumen. It was his ability to rediagnose and absorb

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Speaker 7: entire playbooks. And it's showing now because the game is

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Speaker 7: slowing down for Merit and it looks like on several

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Speaker 7: he knows to play before the offense knows the play

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Speaker 7: because he's there at the spot by the time the

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Speaker 1: So merist Is is poised, especially with.

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Speaker 7: The absence of overshown for a large chunk of the season,

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Speaker 7: maybe half the season. I don't know the way he

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Speaker 7: is going to be put upon Marris a foul. A

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Speaker 7: lot was put upon him last year. And what did

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Speaker 1: I like it, Liam Neeson.

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Speaker 7: But really, going forward, the future of the Cowboys linebacker

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Speaker 1: Why that is, I.

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Speaker 7: He claimed it was only seventy percent when I when

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Speaker 7: my leg up and everything like Beamer is doing right now.

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Speaker 6: All right, boys, it's our last segment of talking cowboys

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Speaker 6: here in the first week of training camp. When you

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Speaker 6: will be back next week. We'll be back next week

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Speaker 6: on Monday, Wednesday and Friday with Kyle Yeomans. Wait right, yeah,

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Speaker 6: biambers looking at me all strange.

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Speaker 1: Tuesday, Thursday, Tuesday, Thursday.

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Speaker 6: Today is Friday, the rotation. We'll be back next week Kyle.

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Speaker 6: All right, he'll do this better than I will. That's fine.

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Speaker 6: I think he'll be good.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, don't you're cooking?

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Speaker 9: Oh god, I'm happy to be here, guys, even though

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Speaker 9: you guys are kicking me off the show for Kyle Yellmans,

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Speaker 9: I don't know what huh.

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Speaker 6: We should have times oh I'm back.

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Speaker 1: It's four seats.

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Speaker 8: Oh I thought it was back.

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Speaker 1: No, no, No, he's.

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Speaker 6: All right, Isaiah.

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Speaker 1: Still we still missing love you, Isaiah.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, make your way back, make your way out here.

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Speaker 6: He's all right, all right boys? Uh final segment. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: let's talk about offensive standouts now. I want to before

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Speaker 6: you guys get into the the hot players, the the

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Speaker 6: what the playmakers, the receivers taking the low hangar fruit,

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Speaker 6: the touchdown getters out there, I need a quick shout

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Speaker 6: out to a certain player that I think is carrying

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Speaker 6: himself like a veteran while being the first round pick

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Speaker 6: of the twenty twenty five NFL season, and that is

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Speaker 6: one Tyler Booker.

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Speaker 1: Yes, boys, what I've.

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Speaker 6: Seen from Tyler Booker so far just said it. He

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Speaker 6: carries himself like a veteran. I think he's the communication

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Speaker 6: that he's had so far with the offensive line, not

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Speaker 6: necessarily on the line of scrimmage, but in the huddle

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Speaker 6: off to the side. Its genuinely feels like he's been

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Speaker 6: here before. He's acting like he's been there before. And

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Speaker 6: it's something that I think is going to impact a

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Speaker 6: player like Tyler Goydon, who came in last year saying

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Speaker 6: all the right things, but I think kind of halfway

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Speaker 6: through lost his confidence a bit, just kind of get

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Speaker 6: the mental game around it all. So far, granted, first week,

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Speaker 6: Tyler Booker seems to have that confidence in spades, and

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Speaker 6: I think a player like Tyler Gotton is going to

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Speaker 6: feed off of that. And as long as the communication

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Speaker 6: is there and as long as they're clanging and banging

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Speaker 6: on the offensive line, you're going to continue to see

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Speaker 6: confidence grow across the line and become whole. I'm really

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Speaker 6: excited about it. What can you guys tell me about

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Speaker 6: Tyler Booker so far?

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Speaker 7: So far, he looks looks the part. I mean obviously

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Speaker 7: physically looks the part. Like you said, He's carrying himself

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Speaker 7: both on and off the field like a professional. He's

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Speaker 7: he's holding up well against you know, guys like Solomon

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Speaker 7: Thomas for example.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, Solomon Thomas looks pretty damn good

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Speaker 1: out there.

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Speaker 7: There's a couple of plays where Tyler Smith handled him,

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Speaker 7: because Tyler Smith is Tyler Smith.

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Speaker 1: But there a couple of players.

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Speaker 6: With twins, Solomon Thomas, a.

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Speaker 1: Couple of twins.

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Speaker 7: I see the resemblance exactly, mostly in the chiseled form.

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Speaker 7: That's really where it boils down.

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Speaker 6: I'm wearing a long sleep. You don't see these biceps.

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Speaker 7: That's because you're trying to get them to focus on

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Speaker 7: what we're saying and not detract from And I respect

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Speaker 7: and I appreciate that. Let's share the camera with Tommy

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Speaker 7: and I the podcast.

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Speaker 9: There's a limit and these nice shirts from the old

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Speaker 9: star Burst right here, A hold star Burst.

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Speaker 7: But Tyler Booker, like you said, he's he's doing everything right.

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Speaker 7: It is early in camp. I can't say that he's

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Speaker 7: as a rookie standing out as as Raku is. But

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Speaker 7: that's not a knock to Tyler Booker. That's simply more

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Speaker 7: and more credit to Ezraku. And of course these are

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Speaker 7: different positions as well, so you have to assess a

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Speaker 7: defense on the offensive lineman differently than you assess an

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Speaker 7: edge rusher. But I like what I'm saying from Tyler Booker.

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Speaker 7: He's I will say this, he's not getting pushed around.

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Speaker 7: He's not getting pushed around.

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Speaker 8: Well, he's doing the pushing around.

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Speaker 9: I think yesterday was the day where I I I

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Speaker 9: saw the best rep we've seen from Tyler Booker. I mean,

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Speaker 9: he he took Mazzie Smith and just completely moved came

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Speaker 9: out of the way, and Cooper BB went up to

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Speaker 9: the next level, took the linebacker route and Javonte Williams

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Speaker 9: probably had the most running room in front of him

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Speaker 9: that he has had since college. I mean, it was

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Speaker 9: just the sea parted, and it was all because of

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Speaker 9: what Booker did to Massie. And I'm not saying Mazzie

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Speaker 9: Smith is you know, that's a whole different and he

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Speaker 9: lost that rep. It's one rep.

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Speaker 8: You know, he still needs to take the next step.

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Speaker 9: But man, that was the play where you know, afterwards

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Speaker 9: you see the how just how giant the hole was

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Speaker 9: for the running back to run through, and you go

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Speaker 9: back and say.

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Speaker 8: Well, how did that happen?

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Speaker 9: Tyler Booker, I mean just completely threw him out of

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Speaker 9: the club and that was the best rep we've seen.

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Speaker 9: But he's a road grader, right, That's what he was

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Speaker 9: at Alabama. This is a guy who is going to

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Speaker 9: pave the way. He moves really well. When you see

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Speaker 9: him run onto the field, you know he's not the

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Speaker 9: most athletic guy.

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Speaker 8: It's not a problem.

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Speaker 9: He is plenty athletic For a guy as size, you

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Speaker 9: don't need a Gazelle playing right guard for him. He's

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Speaker 9: a strong dude, and you saw it on that play

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Speaker 9: because Mosei.

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Speaker 8: Smith's not weak either. Like he's a strong guy and

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Speaker 8: he's known for his strength. But that Rep Man Booker

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Speaker 8: just tell it was unbelievable. And you know that's both.

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Speaker 6: Sides of the ball. But I think we need to

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Speaker 6: address the defensive side our next show.

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Speaker 8: Right, Uh, did.

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Speaker 7: You have any Yeah, I want to using what you

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Speaker 7: said as a segue about Tyler Booker and thanks for

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Speaker 7: the lau, I'm going to.

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Speaker 1: Go to Tyler Goyton.

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Speaker 7: There's some easily low hanging fruit that's justified. If I

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Speaker 7: wanted to say George Pickens, for example, if I wanted

878
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 7: to say Ceedee Lamb, I could say those two things

879
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 7: and be.

880
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:47,120
Speaker 1: Very well justified in doing so.

881
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 7: But I want to give credit to a young man

882
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,879
Speaker 7: who is taking strides that are much needed at Dak

883
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 7: Prescott's blind side to hopefully keep that Prescott clean upright healthy.

884
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: Is Tyler Goyton. What I'm seeing from Tyler Guyton in

885
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: the offse is in the first.

886
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 7: Two practices at least it's beginning to translate over onto

887
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 7: the field. We already knew that Tyler Goyton had exceptional footwork,

888
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,320
Speaker 7: particularly stemming from his days as a basketball player.

889
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: His footwork is just fairly exceptional.

890
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,320
Speaker 7: It was his hand work, it was some of his strength,

891
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 7: it was his ability to move his mask right. There

892
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 7: was a little bit too much unnecessary mass on his

893
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 7: frame last year.

894
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 1: So what does he do? He changes his diet.

895
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 7: Completely cuts out fried foods, goes mostly protein. I mean,

896
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 7: we see the guy working out in the rain doing

897
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 7: boxing drills. He's working on his hands, that work that

898
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 7: he's put in two hand placement, strength, ability to punch,

899
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 7: ability to strike. He's doing a lot of work with

900
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 7: none other than Tyron Smith. Okay, this offseason trying to

901
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 7: figure out how to get some of those techniques and

902
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 7: translate them, and you're seeing it.

903
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 1: Does he win every rep?

904
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 7: No, But I've seen him win multiple reps against Dante Fowler.

905
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 7: Then we just say Dante was coming in hot, and

906
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,759
Speaker 7: yet Dante's not winning every rep against Tyler Gotton. I've

907
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 7: seen him get Stonewall a couple of times by gutting.

908
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 7: There was another one. Marshaw Kneeland just yes, Marshawn gave

909
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 7: guy in a fantastic dip bend, but getting used that

910
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 7: against him because guyton knew that it was an outside

911
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 7: run and so all he did was used it to

912
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 7: seal him off completely. And that was the play. I

913
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 7: believe that Deuce Vaughan basically just took off run.

914
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: Right.

915
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 7: So when you start to see Tyler got and take

916
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 7: these strides and his confidence is definitely there, the motivation

917
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:20,439
Speaker 7: is there.

918
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: I'm going to give the young man his due.

919
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 7: We'll see ultimately if he can continue to stack good days.

920
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 7: But thus far, he's stacking some really good days.

921
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:31,240
Speaker 6: The technique for Tyler Gouden has improved on a huge level,

922
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 6: just seeing the way that he's like stoic as the

923
00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 6: defensive end is bending around him and then he's able

924
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 6: to keep his back straight. They talked about it yesterday

925
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,399
Speaker 6: on the break very impressively. Check that out on Dallas

926
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Speaker 6: Cowboys dot com Third Greek podcast under Talking Cowboys.

927
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 7: But really quickly before you throw to Tommy, because we

928
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 7: love our we love our commentest we do. I gotta

929
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 7: say this call out says Tyler got and got destroyed yesterday.

930
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,959
Speaker 7: If you're talking about that rep from Ezra, anybody would

931
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 7: have gotten destroyed.

932
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: Did you see the get off.

933
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 7: The getoff was so good it looked like it was

934
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 7: off sides, but it wasn't off sides.

935
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 1: Bottom line. Also, everyone's not.

936
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 7: Going to win every rep, of course, So Tyler gotton

937
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 7: lost that rep, just like Mazzie lost that rip when

938
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 7: he got walked out of the club by Tyler Booker.

939
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: It happens.

940
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 7: So I agree with you he got smoked on that

941
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 7: particular rep. But I'm telling you, as those of us

942
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 7: are out here that are clocking his reps, he's winning

943
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 7: far more often than he's losing.

944
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,800
Speaker 6: Call out, don't try and calls out, don't.

945
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:29,959
Speaker 1: Do it, no matter.

946
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,840
Speaker 7: Just to clarify, I appreciate the comment, but let me

947
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 7: let me add context to that.

948
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 9: Fair enough, fair enough, Yeah, offensive stand out for me

949
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 9: is Jonathan Mingo.

950
00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:39,799
Speaker 8: I thought he's had.

951
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,839
Speaker 9: I thought he's stacked up in some pretty good days

952
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 9: here so far. You know, this is a guy who,

953
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 9: you know, he's taking some first team reps, some second

954
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 9: team rep. So I think it's good that he gets,

955
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 9: you know, a little bit of connection with Joe Milton

956
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:55,799
Speaker 9: and Dak Prescott. You know, this is a guy who

957
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 9: I think could really play himself into that wide receiver

958
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 9: four wide receiver five range. I think, you know, when

959
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 9: you look at behind George Pickens and Ceedee Lamb, you've

960
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 9: got Cavante Turpin, Jonathan Mingo, and Jalen Tolbert as kind

961
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 9: of the three names to watch there. You know, is

962
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 9: unless you know a guy like Jalen Brooks or Ryan

963
00:43:13,080 --> 00:43:15,280
Speaker 9: Flinoy starts to make a runner Jalen Cropper.

964
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 8: So but Mingo.

965
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 9: The last couple of days, you know, we've kind of

966
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 9: joked about how man, if Mingo could have gotten a

967
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 9: good pass last year, maybe he's maybe he gets a

968
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 9: little bit better. I feel like every time they threw

969
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 9: in the ball, it is like, man, people rush just

970
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 9: threw it off the back of the defender's helmet, Like,

971
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 9: how's this guy supposed to have a chance. So you're

972
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 9: seeing some of the reasons why the Cowboys felt that

973
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 9: Jonathan Mingo was good enough to trade a fourth round

974
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 9: pick for.

975
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 8: And obviously, the last time they.

976
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 9: Traded a fourth round pick for a player before Mingo,

977
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 9: it didn't work out the way they wanted it to.

978
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 9: So is this a guy who can find his role

979
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 9: on this team and maybe tap into some of the

980
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 9: potential that we saw coming out of old miss because

981
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:57,920
Speaker 9: there was a lot of it.

982
00:43:58,200 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 8: This guy's second round pick.

983
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 9: He looked really good on film in college, and you

984
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 9: saw some of the flashes and now you're starting to

985
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 9: see some of them again.

986
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 8: I think you know this is the one that threw.

987
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 9: I think he and Joe Milton have really connected a

988
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 9: couple of times to where you say, Okay, he's having

989
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,279
Speaker 9: he's having a solid camp. There was one throw where

990
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 9: Milton kind of put it maybe a yard or two

991
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,560
Speaker 9: past him and he dove out just couldn't get there.

992
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 8: I was I think it was more on Milton than

993
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 8: it was on him.

994
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 9: But Jonathan Mingo has been making more plays than not,

995
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 9: and I think it's it's a promising start. And now

996
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 9: we just see Canny start mixing in with the first team,

997
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 9: and Canny start connecting with Dak Prescott and building that

998
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 9: trust with Dak Prescott a little bit more to where

999
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 9: they trust him to go with that unit too and

1000
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 9: make plays.

1001
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:43,760
Speaker 6: It's interesting that I feel like we all picked really solid,

1002
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 6: obviously offensive standouts. There's one that I was just staying

1003
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 6: away from personally. I don't know if you guys got this,

1004
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 6: and like you also didn't want to choose the one

1005
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 6: that everyone else is gonna choose, so none of us

1006
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 6: choose him.

1007
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 1: George Pickens, that was the low hanging. It was a

1008
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: five fruit that I didn't want to pick.

1009
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 6: I didn't want to pick him either because because it's

1010
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 6: so easy to It's goodness, it's so easy. It's so

1011
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 6: fun watching him out here. The chemistry that alluded to

1012
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 6: it earlier. We just have a few minutes. Guys, what

1013
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 6: is it like seeing a wide receiver that can not

1014
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 6: only complement CD but is almost just as dangerous as

1015
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 6: CD lamb with the starting offense.

1016
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 7: Well, first of all, go dogs, let's let's start there, okay, right,

1017
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 7: So the fact that you know he's a product smart

1018
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 7: is no surprise to me.

1019
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: It's no surprise. It's sour product. He's a product of.

1020
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:43,799
Speaker 7: The National Championship program out of Athens.

1021
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: So seeing him right now, so see.

1022
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:51,080
Speaker 7: So seeing him translate. I even got the red and

1023
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:53,719
Speaker 7: black on in honor of George Pickens. So seeing him

1024
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 7: translate that into onto the NFL field for the Dallas

1025
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 7: Cowboys in tandem with a cold setting all pro n

1026
00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 7: cdee lamb. I called him the Terror Twins for a reason,

1027
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 7: and it's because I don't see how you can defend

1028
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 7: both of them when.

1029
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 1: It's so difficult to defend one of them.

1030
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:14,840
Speaker 7: And then, by the way, there are other weapons that

1031
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 7: are going to step up, like Jake Ferguson is looking

1032
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,160
Speaker 7: to have. Okay, you can relax, Texas, we're back, We're

1033
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 7: back to talking.

1034
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 8: I talked about Texas a lot. My goodness, you do

1035
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 8: you do?

1036
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:26,280
Speaker 1: But hey, you know your your school is your school.

1037
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 6: No players are from the art institu seriously, man, or

1038
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 6: else I'd be talking about them seriously though.

1039
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: Man.

1040
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 7: George Pickens, like we talked about at the top of

1041
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 7: the episodes, having the time of his life. He makes

1042
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 7: every catch look easy, even in the drills when he

1043
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 7: did the same round and he just caught it with

1044
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 7: one hand and just left it in that. This is

1045
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,520
Speaker 7: that come on, come on guy, And that's what the

1046
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 7: Cowboys are getting with George Pickens. It's going to be

1047
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 7: a sight to behold.

1048
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1049
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:53,920
Speaker 9: Yeah, Pickens gives you an extra dimension. And I don't

1050
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 9: think we've really seen what George Pickens is best at yet.

1051
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 8: Because he's the go up and get it guy.

1052
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 9: And I mean this part of training camp, they're not

1053
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 9: really throwing a lot of go up and get it passes.

1054
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 6: So well, yes, it was a go down and get it. Yeah,

1055
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:11,400
Speaker 6: it was at.

1056
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 9: His feet and Dak Prescott is putting it on the

1057
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 9: right spot on a quick outright. I think George Pickens

1058
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:15,959
Speaker 9: is a lot better after the catch than we're giving

1059
00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 9: him credit for it.

1060
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 8: I'm not saying he got I don't know if I'd.

1061
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 9: Go as far to say turbo boosters, but he's not

1062
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 9: saying he's turpid.

1063
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: He's not.

1064
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 9: He's not the fastest guy on the field, but he

1065
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 9: is more than advocate after the catch. And I think that,

1066
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:31,880
Speaker 9: you know, if he can continue to build on that

1067
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 9: aspect of his game and and do that just because

1068
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 9: I mean, he's a freak show athlete, so you know

1069
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 9: he add that component into it.

1070
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:40,360
Speaker 8: And you know, Dak Prescott's gonna have a lot of

1071
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:40,839
Speaker 8: fun this year.

1072
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 9: I think with those two and I talked about it

1073
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 9: on the website when we did our twenty Questions series.

1074
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 9: You know, in terms of who makes the first their

1075
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:48,880
Speaker 9: first Pro Bowl this year, I think it's George Pickens.

1076
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 9: I think he's gonna have that good of a year

1077
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 9: and the Cowboys offense to where he can go to

1078
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,239
Speaker 9: Hawaii or wherever they're having that thing.

1079
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:57,320
Speaker 7: Now, I agree, and keep in mind, George Pickens is

1080
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:00,439
Speaker 7: now being moved around a lot more than he's ever

1081
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:01,240
Speaker 7: been in his career.

1082
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 1: So you're gonna see him at multiple spots.

1083
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,839
Speaker 7: You're gonna see him line up opposite ceed Lamb, You're

1084
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 7: gonna see him going motion to be on the same

1085
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,600
Speaker 7: side of CD and vice versa. They're moving him around.

1086
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:11,360
Speaker 7: They're gonna get him over the top for go and

1087
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:13,799
Speaker 7: get it balls. But he's gonna work underneath as well

1088
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,839
Speaker 7: with these quick slants and these quick hitters to get

1089
00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 7: him in position to do yards after the catch against

1090
00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:20,800
Speaker 7: some of these slower linebackers. So George Pickens, I agree

1091
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 7: this this is setting up to be a Pro Bowl

1092
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 7: season for him.

1093
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 6: It's nice having options once. I mean, seriously, I'm sure

1094
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 6: Dak is gonna have it.

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Speaker 1: You know how long it's been.

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Speaker 9: I can't wait until finally Georgia at some point never

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Speaker 9: gonna let him.

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Speaker 6: Gotta go, We gotta go, all right, boys, thank you

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Speaker 6: so much for tuning in. We appreciate you. That'll do

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Speaker 6: it for this edition of Talking Cowboys from Oxnard, California.

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Speaker 6: So long, Talking Cowboys on Dallas Cowboys dot com.

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Speaker 2: This has been a production of dallascowboys dot Com and

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Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.