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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Ella

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Speaker 1: trend Hof.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: Oh, she's trending, folks, she's trending.

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Speaker 3: We got m hop here, we got m Hoff see.

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Speaker 1: The haw from now on. That's who I'm referring to

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Speaker 1: when I say the Hof. My name is Jack, that

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Speaker 1: is Miles Gray.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, and uh. These are some

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Speaker 4: of the things that are trending.

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Speaker 2: They are they are.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, these are some of the things that may or

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Speaker 1: may or may not be a trending. Trump just gave

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Speaker 1: like another kind of sleepy speech where everyone's like, we're

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Speaker 1: Fox News has to cut away and be like, well,

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Speaker 1: there you have it, folks, another rebuke, another powerful rebuke.

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Speaker 1: But we'll get more into his sleepiness tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: It's just that, I mean, I will just play this

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Speaker 5: one because he said, you can't even walk down a

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Speaker 5: sidewalk no more anymore, just to give you a flavor

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Speaker 5: because now he's speaking behind full on plate glass, like

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Speaker 5: bulletproof glass. Now yeah, because obviously he's feel.

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Speaker 3: And it's crime written and it's I mean, you can't

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Speaker 3: walk down the sidewalk any war any It's just unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: What I can't sign sidewalk anymore.

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Speaker 1: Will will not correct himself because it's too shows too

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Speaker 1: much weakness.

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Speaker 5: Imagine the sidewalk anymore.

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Speaker 3: Pick a war, any war, any war?

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Speaker 1: What So that's the energy coming out of his side.

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Speaker 1: The d n C was pretty god uh pretty turned

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Speaker 1: up last night. Looked like people were having a fun

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Speaker 1: time at the d n C. I think the role

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Speaker 1: call somehow ended up stealing the show. I mean the Obamas,

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Speaker 1: I guess stole the show. But the roll call was

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Speaker 1: a whole new genre.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 5: Each time it's like we're from the Great Commonwealth of

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Speaker 5: you know, Pennsylvany, know whatever.

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Speaker 1: Is like the normal call guy on stage saying and

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Speaker 1: what say ye west Virginia. And then like some old

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Speaker 1: person stands up and is like West Virginia the home

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Speaker 1: of mountains and rivers, you know, and just like said

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Speaker 1: reads a prepared remark that ends with give our votes

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Speaker 1: to Kamala Harris.

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Speaker 5: This is when they so like California. They were playing

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Speaker 5: California Love.

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Speaker 1: They're playing there is a DJ on stage with the

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Speaker 1: guy who was shouting out the various states.

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Speaker 6: When they get to Georgia, this is this is what

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Speaker 6: they hit when they get to Georgia.

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Speaker 4: Going absolutely insane DNC it turned.

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Speaker 5: Out for what and and also like not to add

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Speaker 5: just like the coordination between that venue and then uh

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Speaker 5: so for what's five Serve in Wisconsin where she was

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Speaker 5: doing the rally portion like with Tim Walls, it was

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Speaker 5: fucking the production was wild.

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Speaker 1: He also dared through the windows to the walls, which

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Speaker 1: you know you pick up on that meme.

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Speaker 4: So the the mean game is on point.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, they know they're out here, they're out here,

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Speaker 3: but like, yeah, it was definitely uh, I mean the

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Speaker 3: comparison and energy is.

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Speaker 4: Yes, starting linked.

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Speaker 1: Somebody was like, by the way, for context, here is

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Speaker 1: what the Republican National Convention role call went like, And

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Speaker 1: it was, Yeah, it was what we were just talking about.

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Speaker 1: It was like from the Great State of Tennessee. Tennessee

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Speaker 1: a home of volunteers, smoky mountains, and a record number

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Speaker 1: of rest stops where you don't feel safe going inside,

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Speaker 1: Like what because you don't.

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Speaker 3: Know the person should be using a urinal or a

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Speaker 3: toilet stall?

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Speaker 4: What shut up that? It was fun.

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Speaker 1: Doug M Hoff spoke, Ye, seems to you know, get raves.

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Speaker 4: From the people. I would expect him to get rid.

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Speaker 2: I think. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean like Bernie spoke too, which felt a little

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Speaker 5: odd because like, you know, Bernie is from the much

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Speaker 5: more progressive side of the party. But then also like

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Speaker 5: extolling the virtues of Biden. I mean, I get it, you're.

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Speaker 2: At the d n C.

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Speaker 3: You're not gonna be there taking a ship on the

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Speaker 3: fucking administration. But it just was like odd. But then

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Speaker 3: he'd call it for a ceasefire.

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Speaker 5: Uh, and you know, did did said the things that

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Speaker 5: Bernie Sanders does. But yeah, uh, the whole vibe there

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Speaker 5: once the Obama spoke, like there were people who were

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Speaker 4: This was incredible.

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Speaker 1: Barack Obama made a dick joke about Donald Trump and

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Speaker 1: people were like, oh my god, can he do that?

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Speaker 2: I think?

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Speaker 5: And then Trump today was like he's making personalistic guy's

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Speaker 5: making personal attacks and you're like, about.

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Speaker 2: What what do you mean?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like your penis? What are we talking about? What

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Speaker 2: did you think he was saying?

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Speaker 5: Because he was talking about crowd sizes, but they're doing

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Speaker 5: the penis hand size gesture.

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Speaker 2: But yeah.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think the one thing that's just been

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Speaker 5: you know, like hearing talking about like and.

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Speaker 3: Donald Trump, who doesn't respect the rule of law.

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Speaker 5: Like again, like international courts have declared like there is

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Speaker 5: an illegal occupation that we have a hand in right now.

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Speaker 5: But I guess, but again that's a court that the

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Speaker 5: United States will never acknowledge because they sometimes call out

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Speaker 5: the United States on things and they're like, fuck you,

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Speaker 5: We're gonna fucking make life hell for everybody that works

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Speaker 5: for you. And then the party platform did come out,

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Speaker 5: the Official Democratic Party Platform, and it's like the twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty platform was talking about like stopping endless wars and

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Speaker 5: things like that, and this this year's version was not.

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Speaker 5: That was not the tone at all, Like it was

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Speaker 5: not it was it felt like we're going backwards.

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Speaker 2: And there was just you.

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Speaker 5: Know, even like the talk of like what's happening in Gaza,

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Speaker 5: it was very like just surface level, no talk of

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Speaker 5: to you know, stop the genocide. And I think just

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Speaker 5: like it just feels very dystopian because like we clearly

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Speaker 5: the hands of the United States government and as they

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Speaker 5: assist the Israeli government just cause untold terror and pain

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Speaker 5: and death. But then like you look at the DNC

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Speaker 5: and it's like no, no, no, like it's just.

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Speaker 3: A party, y'all. Like there's nothing to see here. It's

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Speaker 5: We're like we're we completely got everything sorted out, And

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Speaker 5: it makes me really worried about like the future like

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Speaker 5: this right now, like we are clearly failing an exercise

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Speaker 5: like is just completely ignore preventable mass death. And it's like, yeah,

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Speaker 5: all that shit you're seeing maybe not, I don't know,

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Speaker 5: like don't don't listen to all these doctors who just

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Speaker 3: Everything they're seeing is over there.

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Speaker 5: But then it's like what happens as the climate crisis

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Speaker 5: who are looking for like a place to survive, to live,

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Speaker 5: so they do not perish, and this.

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Speaker 1: Feels like humanity just gets written out of the story.

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Speaker 5: This feels like this like a really good warm up

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Speaker 5: societally to begin like whatever this next awful phase is

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Speaker 5: of like planetary death that we are not addressing properly,

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Speaker 5: like just being like, well, we can just kind of

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Speaker 5: very worrying because you know, being able to just like

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Speaker 2: I don't think that leads to a good place.

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Speaker 3: But anyway, all that to say, everything else very.

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Speaker 4: Fun, okay, fun energy, very.

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Speaker 3: Fun, very little John.

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Speaker 5: And then also like Ella m Hoff has been another

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Speaker 5: Doug m Hoff's daughter, the stepdaughter of Kamala Harris, and

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Speaker 5: the right has become so obsessed with her because she's

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Speaker 5: from the nineteen sixties.

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Speaker 2: Like she's like she's.

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Speaker 5: Got like armpit hair, and like this is like this

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Speaker 5: is why we have a demographic crisis. And again they've

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Speaker 5: just found another person to like transvestigate, even though she's

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Speaker 5: like never implied anything other than like identifying as a woman,

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Speaker 5: and she's also a model too, But anyway, it's a

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Speaker 1: Another person to make the people on the right feel

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Speaker 1: very weird and not know what to do with those

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Speaker 1: oh my god, this is everybody's worst nightmare. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I think that's just you.

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Speaker 2: I think that's just you, truly, truly.

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Speaker 1: All right, this is probably going to be a big story,

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Speaker 1: and hopefully it's not swinging the election, but it I

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Speaker 1: don't know, it's it's not good. Our FK is playing

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Speaker 1: to drop out, and as we feared, it seems like

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Speaker 1: has offered to, you know, give him a position in

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Speaker 1: his cabinet, which you know he does. He has been consistent,

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Speaker 1: like he's not pulling enough to like be a major

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Speaker 1: spoiler in the election, but he is pulling it like

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Speaker 1: five consistently, and so that five percent goes to Trump.

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Speaker 4: That's that's bad, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, I mean it sounds like that.

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Speaker 5: I mean it's like, because so many people are skewing

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Speaker 5: Trump that are RFK supporters, that definitely helps more than hurts.

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Speaker 5: But I guess like when you look at like what

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Speaker 2: Or it could mean a little.

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Speaker 5: Uh, And that's to be determined, I think, especially if

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Speaker 5: in for Trump. But you know, his running mate Nicole

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Speaker 5: Shanahan has basically been like doing all kinds of press recently.

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Speaker 5: She like first off like denied that RFK reached out

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Speaker 5: to the Harris campaign to ask for a position, So

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Speaker 5: basically brainworms mcdog eater has been reaching out to the

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Speaker 5: various campaigns, first the Kamala Harris campaign, saying like, look, man,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna give you an offer you can easily refuse.

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Speaker 5: What if I drop out and endorse you in exchange

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Speaker 5: for a cabinet position so I can be Secretary of

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Speaker 5: Health and Human Services?

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Speaker 2: What?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So they predictably were like, please be.

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Speaker 2: For real and never call it.

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Speaker 1: It's not really on our list except for our list

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Speaker 1: of like the very last people that we put in

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Speaker 1: that position, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And because RFK is such a principled freedom fighter,

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Speaker 5: he's just immediately just pivoted to Trump, and I was like,

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Speaker 5: all right, here's the exact same offer. What if I

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Speaker 5: drop out, endorse you, and I get a cabinet position.

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Speaker 5: Trump has already said he's like, he's like, you know,

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Speaker 5: I'm very open to respect to RFK a lot. So

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Speaker 1: We're back, and Starbucks is bringing back their puppet spice

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Speaker 4: You tired of that? Like basic ass pumpkin spice.

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Speaker 1: so much of pumpkin spice, Like pumpkin spice is basically cinnamon.

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Speaker 5: But like you know, to your point, too much of

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Speaker 5: So when seasonal things come out, because they're seasonal, I

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we actually give out stuffing for trigger treaders at

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Speaker 1: this when day, August twenty one. We are back tomorrow

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Speaker 1: with the whole last episode of the show. Until then,

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Speaker 1: be kind to each other, be kind to yourself, get

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Speaker 1: the vaccine, don't do nothing about white supremacy, and we

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Speaker 1: will talk to yell tomorrow.

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Speaker 4: Bye bye,