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Speaker 3: So Eerie has lost nearly one in three manufacturing jobs.

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Speaker 4: You know that.

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Speaker 3: Hang it, don't leave.

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Speaker 4: I promise our jobs will come back.

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Speaker 1: But is that possible? You can manufacturing jobs really come

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Speaker 2: And then we got an idea.

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Speaker 1: Why don't we make a made in America baseball cap

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Speaker 1: of American manufacturing.

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Speaker 2: Lincoln and his chief economic advisor were unabashed protectionist.

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Speaker 3: They were staunchly opposed to free trade.

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Speaker 5: We potentially had high tariffs and protected our markets and

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Speaker 3: Free trade became the guiding principle and opening our markets

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Speaker 6: Generations in the years ahead, look bad and thank us

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Speaker 3: And that's when Chinese imports began to completely flood at

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Speaker 2: I'm Patrick Crelchi and I'm Adrianna Cortez.

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Speaker 1: And this is Red Pilled America, a storytelling show.

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Speaker 2: This is not another talk show covering the day's news.

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Speaker 2: We are all about telling stories.

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Speaker 1: Hollywood doesn't want you to hear stories.

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Speaker 2: The media marks stories about everyday Americans. If the globalist ignore.

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Speaker 1: You could think of Red Pilled America as audio documentaries.

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Speaker 1: And we've promised only one thing, the truth. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Red Pilled America. Our coastal elites may find this hard

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Speaker 1: to believe, but there are actually some Americans that would

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Speaker 7: I was twenty five years old. I'd worked on Wall

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Speaker 1: I'm Patrick Corelchi and this is red Pilled America. We've

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Speaker 1: United States. This is our third and final episode in

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Speaker 1: the series. You don't need to have heard our last

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Speaker 1: we had an idea, why don't we make a baseball

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Speaker 1: In Part two, we learned that President Abraham Lincoln was

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Speaker 7: I was twenty five years old and came across a

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Speaker 7: And I found out that there was an opportunity for

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Speaker 7: You could go to Yankee Stadium and buy a Yankee hat,

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Speaker 1: So Mitch purchased the equipment for practically nothing, hired about

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Speaker 1: Mitch's new plant was humming. Within two years of opening

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to red pilled America. So Mitch CON's new

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Speaker 7: Unfortunately, by nineteen ninety four, factories in Asia kind of

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Speaker 2: In nineteen eighty nine, a massive student protest for democracy

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Speaker 2: But that's exactly what happened. You See, what Mitch didn't

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Speaker 4: If you want to rebuild a job based let your vote, saiso.

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Speaker 2: In nineteen ninety two, billionaire businessman Ross Perrot ran for

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Speaker 8: And I think the first question is over here. Yes,

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Speaker 6: That's right at the top of my agenda. We've shipped

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Speaker 6: We have got to stop sending jobs overseas to those

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Speaker 9: And this treaty would increase jobs here, Oh, no question

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Speaker 9: Those points, okay.

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Speaker 4: Go get another one.

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Speaker 2: In the end, the Clinton administration won the debate, and

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Speaker 2: January first, nineteen ninety four, the same year that Mitch

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Speaker 3: There were strict numerical quotas on how many textles of

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Speaker 7: I think one of the reasons that they ended up

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Speaker 7: Unions buy a lot of baseball hats. If you can

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Speaker 7: With the teamster's hat on, you can kind of see

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Speaker 7: into the political market at that point, and that added

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Speaker 2: Years later, Mitch would go on to make some red

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Speaker 2: baseball caps for a certain New York City real estate

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Speaker 2: mogul turned politician. He now had labor unions and political

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Speaker 2: campaigns as customers. But then something happened that opened up

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Speaker 2: an entirely new market for Mitch. Washington d C. Raised

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Speaker 2: the minimum wage for all federal workers, so non union

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Speaker 7: New Jersey and New York have always had much higher

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Speaker 7: we were then competitive with non union shops all throughout

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Speaker 7: say in Tennessee or Kentucky, all said had to raise

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Speaker 2: To this day, the military makes up thirty to forty

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Speaker 1: Pilled America. So by two thousand and eight, Unionware had

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Speaker 1: found its niche. It was targeting organizations that believed in

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Speaker 1: the importance of maide in America products. It first focused

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Speaker 1: on baseball caps for union shops, then political campaigns. When Washington,

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Speaker 1: DC raised the minimum wage for federal workers, unionware suddenly

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Speaker 1: became competitive as a military contractor, and they began winning

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Speaker 1: bids to provide baseball caps and bags for branches of

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Speaker 1: the military like the Coastguard, Air Force, and Army. But surprisingly,

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Speaker 1: it would be a global downturn that made their business

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Speaker 11: Okay, just so you got a sense of what's causing

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Speaker 11: the agony by this point, I know you've been talking

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Speaker 11: about it. It's financials led by Bear Sterns after what

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Speaker 11: essentially is a bailout from the FED. Bear Sterns shares

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Speaker 11: a down ninety percent this morning. And it's not just Bear.

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Speaker 11: Pretty much every single bank is plunging in early trade

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Speaker 11: this morning. Lehman, which is very similar to Bear and

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Speaker 11: its reliance on fixed income, is down nearly thirty percent.

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Speaker 11: You have big names like Goldman, Sachs down eight percent,

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Speaker 11: the board this morning. And as you know, it all

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Speaker 11: out Bear Sterns for two dollars a share.

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Speaker 1: As the subprime mortgage housing crisis hit the United States,

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Speaker 1: cheap products from China stopped looking so cheap again, Mitch Kahn.

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Speaker 7: When China's economy started getting really strong and America's economy

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Speaker 7: started seeing a lot of other types of businesses coming

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Speaker 7: to us, not yet the fashion industry, but really organizations

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Speaker 7: looking for promotional baseball hats. Where in the past it

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Speaker 7: was a no brainer for them to buy a made

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Speaker 7: in China product because it was so much less expensive,

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Speaker 7: all of a sudden, it wasn't so much less expensive.

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Speaker 7: So a company like Chrysler, they all of a sudden

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Speaker 7: started wanting to get their baseball hats made in the

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Speaker 7: USA because they're promoting that their product is made in

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Speaker 7: the USA. They give away hundreds of thousands of baseball hats,

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Speaker 7: and they don't want a mixed message in there. Made

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Speaker 7: in USA on the outside of that, and you look

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Speaker 1: Directly following the bailouts, many non fashion brands began to

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Speaker 1: tout their American roots, and the made in America label

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Speaker 1: had a brief Renaissance, but for mass market fashion brands,

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Speaker 1: on the other hand, the Great Recession was an excuse

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Speaker 1: to move their manufacturing operations overseas. In two thousand and nine, Company,

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Speaker 1: closure of its distribution center in Mobile, Alabama and a

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Speaker 1: factory in Jackson, Alabama, eliminating nearly four hundred jobs. They

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Speaker 1: shipped the factory's output overseas. Two months later, in January

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Speaker 1: twenty ten, New Era shuddered its Demopolis, Alabama plant, and

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Speaker 1: with it, three hundred and fifty one American manufacturing jobs

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Speaker 1: were lost. They then used the closures to renegotiate their

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Speaker 1: contracts with the workers at their last American cap factory

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Speaker 1: in Derby, New York. New Era claimed at the time

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Speaker 1: that the demand for baseball caps had waned during the

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Speaker 1: recession and the move was necessary. But over the next

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Speaker 1: than forty three percent and the company quote did not

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Speaker 1: have any down year during the recession. New Era declined

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Speaker 1: to comment for this story. It is closing its final

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Speaker 1: American manufacturing facility in Derby, New York.

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Speaker 5: Good evening, Once again, we begin with a surprise announcement

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Speaker 5: impacting hundreds of facts.

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Speaker 9: The New Era Cap Company says it plans to close

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Speaker 9: its manufacturing plant here in Derby. The move affects more

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Speaker 9: than two hundred jobs. New Era Cap is a home

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Speaker 9: grown success story. It was founded nearly one hundred years

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Speaker 9: ago right here in western New York. But tonight, the

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Speaker 9: popular Cap Company says its hat manufacturing plant is just

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Speaker 9: no longer economically viable.

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Speaker 1: Now even Major League Baseball caps are being made overseas

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Speaker 1: by twenty thirteen. For roughly two decades, economists have been

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Speaker 1: and that any barriers to free trade would be a

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Speaker 1: this argument as manufacturing jobs fled the country. But if

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Speaker 1: there was any doubt as to why economists have been

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Speaker 1: real reason was about to become crystal clear, and it

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Speaker 1: would shock everyone that was paying attention. It was April

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Speaker 1: twenty fourth, twenty thirteen, and photographer Ismail Ferdos was at

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Speaker 1: home in Dhaka, the capital of Bangladesh, working with his

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Speaker 12: He came in asked me, did I see what's happening.

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Speaker 3: Like this morning? There is a factory collapse.

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Speaker 12: I'm like, no, I haven't watched TV, and it was

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Speaker 12: like you should check this out. So I walked up

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Speaker 12: to the TV.

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Speaker 13: And local volunteers joined in the desperate hunt for survivors.

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Speaker 1: A my wife was working there, and I came here

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Speaker 1: as soon as I could. I've looked everywhere, but I

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Speaker 1: can't find any trace of her.

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Speaker 13: Scores of people were buried and what's become a coffin

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Speaker 13: of conquerte on the metal. My husband is inside there,

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Speaker 13: this woman not knowing where to look. The building housed

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Speaker 13: several clothing factories.

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Speaker 12: I think I saw it for a few minutes and

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Speaker 12: I couldn't believe that what's going on?

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Speaker 1: An eight story garment factory just a few miles from

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Speaker 1: his house had collapsed.

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Speaker 12: And I immediately felt like it's going to be something big.

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Speaker 12: So at that moment, I didn't have any doubt in

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Speaker 12: my mind to go and cover this, like to report

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Speaker 12: on this thing. The collapse.

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Speaker 1: Ishmael grabbed his camera, one battery, one lens and was

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Speaker 1: out of the house. In route to the factory, he

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Speaker 1: scanned Twitter and news portals for any updates.

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Speaker 12: When I arrived at the corps side, I had no

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Speaker 12: idea what's going on, to be honest, because I read

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Speaker 12: it's like eighth story building.

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Speaker 1: But when Ishmael arrived, he was shocked to see that

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Speaker 1: the eight story building had been reduced to just a

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Speaker 12: It looked like it two or three story building. The

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Speaker 12: whole story it's story building, like became like a sandwich.

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Speaker 12: There's no column, so it's like, you know, it was

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Speaker 12: unbelievable to see that.

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Speaker 14: It was like it's story building.

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Speaker 1: The scene was like the set of a war movie.

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Speaker 12: It's like, you know, I'm just like entering into a

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Speaker 12: movie set. Or I would say, like everything looked very

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Speaker 12: you know, surreal in a way that no one is

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Speaker 12: paying attention to anything. They're just like trying to save lives.

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Speaker 12: And when I was entering, I sat like, you know,

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Speaker 12: one after another, like bodies are coming out, either they're alive,

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Speaker 12: I'm not. I was not sure they're alive or not.

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Speaker 1: Workers were using long rolls of fabric from what was

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Speaker 1: left from the factory to slide down from the floors

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Speaker 1: that were remaining. It was pure chaos. But what Ishmael

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Speaker 1: didn't anticipate was that his photojournalism would at times have

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Speaker 1: to take a backseat to helping with the rescue. Did

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Speaker 1: you start taking pictures right away?

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Speaker 12: Yes, I did, But also I was I was confused,

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Speaker 12: like you know, I was giving hands like you know,

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Speaker 12: because it was such a dilema in my mind that

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Speaker 12: how should I react or how should I what should

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Speaker 12: I do in this kind of situation.

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Speaker 14: But really later I realized that I have a purpose

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Speaker 14: to be here, to tell people's story, to tell what's

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Speaker 14: going on, to aware people about the incident, and this

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Speaker 14: also injustice. But also I was giving my hands like

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Speaker 14: you know, whenever like something happening in front of me,

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Speaker 14: and I didn't I didn't hesitate to put down my

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Speaker 14: camera and like you know, help.

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Speaker 1: For almost a month after the collapse, Ishmael was taking

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Speaker 1: pictures of the site. There were many moments throughout the

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Speaker 1: time that made an impression, but perhaps two stood out

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Speaker 1: the most.

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Speaker 12: I mean, on the first day I could tell you,

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Speaker 12: like you know, when I saw I mean, I don't,

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Speaker 12: I don't know. It was like in the evening I

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Speaker 12: was the basement on the first floor something like that.

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Speaker 12: On that level, they're like breaking the wall from the

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Speaker 12: others the next building to get in to the rubble

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Speaker 12: or like the collapse on the on the bottom of

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Speaker 12: the collapsed building. And I remember I was not taking

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Speaker 12: pictures at that moment and I was helping them, and

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Speaker 12: a couple of guys came to me. I was like,

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Speaker 12: did you see.

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Speaker 14: That dead body? Like, did you take a picture of that?

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Speaker 12: No. Usually, I don't prefer to take picture of dead bodies,

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Speaker 12: which I feel.

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Speaker 14: Like as a as a as a photographer, and that

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Speaker 14: particular situation, I'm very powerful because it's.

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Speaker 12: Like I can control the situation more than yeah, because

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Speaker 12: I always try to be respectful and like and I

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Speaker 12: So they asked me and I were like, no, I

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Speaker 12: haven't And then I walked with them to the I

657
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Speaker 12: don't know, it's like ten years from where I was,

658
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Speaker 12: and I saw these two people. I don't know there

659
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Speaker 12: were a couple or now they're like hugging each other

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Speaker 12: like it's dead under the rubble and they're like they

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Speaker 12: were covered with a piece of cloth and they opened it.

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Speaker 12: They're like kind of removed it to show me, and

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Speaker 12: I took a couple of pictures and that kind of

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Speaker 12: particular moment that really struck me.

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Speaker 1: What he captured was a heartbreaking image of two killed

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Speaker 1: in the collapse, a male and a female, their bodies

667
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Speaker 1: half buried in the rubble, with the man hugging the woman.

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Speaker 1: Their last desperate moment was frozen in time. Another standout

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Speaker 1: moment came when he traveled abroad and saw the retail

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Speaker 1: stores of many of the brands that he recalled seeing

671
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Speaker 1: in the rubble, British apparel brand Benetton, Canadian Joe Fresh,

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Speaker 1: and American brands the Children's Place, J C. Penny and Walmart.

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Speaker 1: Perhaps most troubling about the horrific event was that the

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Speaker 1: factory owner ignored a warning sign just a day before

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Speaker 1: the collapse. In the end, over eleven hundred people died

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Speaker 1: and more than twenty five hundred were injured. The tragedy

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Speaker 1: was unthinkable, but it wasn't the first major accident.

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Speaker 15: Scene of horror at a clothing factory that went up

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Speaker 15: in flames. Workers trapped inside the factories in Bangladesh, but

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Speaker 15: the clothes they make are for international companies. Some of

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Speaker 15: those companies American, legedly including Walmart.

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Speaker 1: Just five months earlier, one hundred and twelve Bangladeshi garment

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Speaker 1: workers died in a fire at a clothing factory that

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Speaker 1: had no fire exits. This mill has become a voice

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Speaker 1: for the garment workers of Bangladesh. He organized a photography

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Speaker 1: exhibit on the first night of the twenty fourteen New

687
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Speaker 1: York Fashion Week to bring attention to their plight. He

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Speaker 1: does see the garment industry as a huge revolution in

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Speaker 1: solving the country's unemployment, but he thinks the industry needs

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Speaker 1: dramatic reform.

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Speaker 12: I not against the business of comment factory or cover

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Speaker 12: industry in Bangladesh. I think this is very important for

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Speaker 12: our country. But also.

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Speaker 14: I have to say it has to be more regulated.

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Speaker 1: It's this lack of regulations, though, that is made manufacturing

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Speaker 1: in these foreign lands so attractive to American corporations. The

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Speaker 1: wages are so low that the garment workers have to

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Speaker 1: live in appalling conditions.

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Speaker 12: Usually they live in the Slam.

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Speaker 14: I mean, Dhaka has a lot of slams or in

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Speaker 14: outskirts of Slam.

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Speaker 12: And it's a really usually very.

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Speaker 14: Cramped and very little space, and they share with many people.

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Speaker 1: And the catastrophe has done very little to change conditions

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Speaker 1: in the country. Shortly after the collapse, investigative reporters found

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Speaker 1: Bangladesh factories with workers as young as twelve years old

707
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Speaker 1: and with over half their workforce primarily girls under fourteen

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Speaker 1: years old, and their salary it was thirty two dollars

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Speaker 1: a month. And these factories weren't making clothes for just

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Speaker 1: some random company. They claimed to make garments for Walmart

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Speaker 1: and Old Navy, a collective of American fashion brands, claim

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Speaker 1: to force improvements to work in conditions, but the reforms

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Speaker 1: only affected the small fraction of facilities that received direct

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Speaker 1: orders from the American brands. Thousands of other subcontractors in

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Speaker 1: the country made no changes to their operations even after

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Speaker 1: the massive loss of life. American corporations continue to use

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Speaker 1: these unchecked facilities because they have a sophisticated way of

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Speaker 1: hiding the origin of their garment manufacturing.

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Speaker 16: American retailers don't buy from sweatshops.

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Speaker 1: That's Salvatore barbonis the author of The New Authoritarianism, Trump Populism,

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Speaker 1: and the Tyranny of experts.

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Speaker 16: American retailers don't own sweatshops. First of all, they don't

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Speaker 16: buy from sweatshops. They don't even buy from people who

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Speaker 16: buy from sweatshops. They buy from people who buy from

725
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Speaker 16: people who buy from people who buy from seas sweatshops.

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Speaker 16: The subcontracting arrangements go through three, four or five levels

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Speaker 16: before they get to the sweatshop. So an American company

728
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Speaker 16: is most likely the American retailers most likely buying from

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Speaker 16: a global brand. The global brand is sourcing from an

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Speaker 16: Asian outsourcer, probably in Hong Kong. That Asian outsourcer is

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Speaker 16: then working with subcontractors in Bangladesh, Vietnam, China. That subcontractor

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Speaker 16: in Bangladesh, Vietnam, or China is then sourcing the purchase

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Speaker 16: with a sweatshop style manufacturer.

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Speaker 1: By looking at countries like Bangladesh, you see clearly why

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Speaker 1: corporate economists push for free trade that exports American manufacturing overseas.

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Speaker 16: The answer is very simple, and we know the answer.

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Speaker 16: Academics have done tons of research on this. It comes

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Speaker 16: down to just two factors, labor and the environment. Labor costs,

739
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Speaker 16: of course, are dramatically lower in countries like Bangladesh, and China,

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Speaker 16: not just because people work for less funny, but also

741
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Speaker 16: because the working conditions are in many cases horrific. People adults,

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Speaker 16: even children, working sixteen hours a day with you know,

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Speaker 16: no protections, you know, in terrible overheated factories that you

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Speaker 16: know that are dirty, that are smelly, that are dangerous

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Speaker 16: places to work. But the other half of it that

746
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Speaker 16: we don't often think about is that these companies in

747
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Speaker 16: China and Bangladesh are saving on environmental costs. They can

748
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Speaker 16: pollute whatever they want and nobody makes them pay for it.

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Speaker 16: So if you think about a baseball cap, you know,

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Speaker 16: you don't think of that as an environmentally sensitive product,

751
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Speaker 16: but in reality it is. Think of the dyes that

752
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Speaker 16: go to color the hat. In the United States, you know,

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Speaker 16: the runoff from the dyeing process would be carefully collected,

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Speaker 16: they'd be detoxified, it would not be allowed to run

755
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Speaker 16: off into the sewer or into a stream. In China

756
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Speaker 16: or in Bangladesh, dyes are applied. Whatever runoff or mess

757
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Speaker 16: there is is just washed down the drain. It goes

758
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Speaker 16: on the factory floor and sprayed right into the drain,

759
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Speaker 16: and then it doesn't go into a sewage treatment plant.

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Speaker 16: It just goes straight into the river and not just dies.

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Speaker 16: All sorts of things, adhesives that are used in the hat,

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Speaker 16: the chemicals that are used to condition the cotton to

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Speaker 16: make it properly flexible in the hat, the oils that

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Speaker 16: are used in the factory machinery. In the US, if

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Speaker 16: a factory machine has oil in it, the oil drips,

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Speaker 16: you wipe it off and it gets properly disposed of.

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Speaker 16: In China or Bangladesh, again, it all goes down the

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Speaker 16: drain and as a result, rivers in developing countries, and

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Speaker 16: most spectacularly in China, are completely devastated.

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Speaker 1: Our American corporations know this. They know that child labor

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Speaker 1: goes into the making of their apparel. They know that

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Speaker 1: the working conditions are horrific. They know these manufacturing facilities

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Speaker 1: pollute the earth. I mean, how else can you buy

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Speaker 1: pants at your local fashion retailer for the low price

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Speaker 1: of nine to ninety seven pants that have to be

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Speaker 1: shipped in most cases halfway around the world. But given

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Speaker 1: all of this, Mitch Cohn has begun to see signs

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Speaker 1: of a slight shift. More and more American companies want

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Speaker 1: their products made in America.

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Speaker 7: NPR started putting on their request for quotations for their

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Speaker 7: topags that needed to be made in America because they

782
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Speaker 7: didn't want to be associated with sweatshops and it wasn't

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Speaker 7: that much more expensive to get the products made in America.

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Speaker 7: And we've kind of noticed more and more that entities

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Speaker 7: are looking for made in America as the cost of

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Speaker 7: imports go up, and they do continue to go up,

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Speaker 7: and we've seen a little bit of stagnation in this country,

788
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Speaker 7: so our products on our prices have been relatively stable.

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Speaker 7: That's helped us out a lot.

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Speaker 1: And he also thinks America is beginning to become a

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Speaker 1: viable manufacturing option versus China, Bangladesh and others.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 7: China, for example, has had population issues where they had

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Speaker 7: a one child policy for a long time and they

795
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Speaker 7: have a lot fewer people entering the workforce, so they've

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Speaker 7: had to bid up wages. The wage growth there has

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Speaker 7: been phenomenal in China. That's brought the wages to the

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Speaker 7: point where many of the larger brands think China is

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Speaker 7: way too expensive to manufacturing, so they go to less

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Speaker 7: expensive countries. But if they go to a country that

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Speaker 7: is too inexpensive to manufacturing, they run into all sorts

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Speaker 7: of infrastructure problems which can be devastating, like factories that

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Speaker 7: burn down in Bangladesh, or all sorts of supply chain

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Speaker 7: issues when they go to Africa. So it's becoming very

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Speaker 7: expensive to try to save money on labor. At this point,

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Speaker 7: it's not yet at the point where America is the

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Speaker 7: most economical place to manufacture, but it keeps getting closer

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Speaker 7: to that point.

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Speaker 1: We're happy to say that Mitch's Union Weear is making

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Speaker 1: our red pilled America cap and we're pleasantly surprised at

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Speaker 1: how competitive the price was compared to our original Bangladesh sample,

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Speaker 1: And in the end, it supports American jobs, which brings

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Speaker 1: us back to the question, can we really bring manufacture

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Speaker 1: back to America. We've spoke to a lot of people

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Speaker 1: that have been studying this issue for decades, who have

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Speaker 1: analyzed the obvious negative effects of free trade, who have

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Speaker 1: devised policy prescriptions to implement fair trade, and yet the

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Speaker 1: single theme permeating throughout all of these experts answers is yes,

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Speaker 1: we can bring back some of the manufacturing jobs that

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Speaker 1: we've lost. But here's the kicker. It doesn't start with

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Speaker 1: policy prescriptions. It starts with a complete shift in the

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Speaker 1: American mindset. As my old friend Andrew Breitbart famously said,

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Speaker 1: politics is downstream of culture. What he meant by that

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Speaker 1: was we need to win the argument amongst the people

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Speaker 1: before we can expect to see change implemented in Washington,

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Speaker 1: d C. Manufacturing will come back to our soil when

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Speaker 1: we value made in America. We need to win the

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Speaker 1: argument that making things in this country is of paramount importance.

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Speaker 1: We can't just be consumers, we need to be makers

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Speaker 1: as well. That simple mindset shift will have profound implications.

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Speaker 1: It will increase the demand for American made products, which

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Speaker 1: will increase the demand for American manufacturing workers. Valuing homegrown

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Speaker 1: products will reinfuse the dignity in and desire for a

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Speaker 1: career path and making things. Without valuing made in America,

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Speaker 1: we won't even be able to muster this skilled workforce

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Speaker 1: necessary to man the factories. We don't even teach shop

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Speaker 1: class anymore in high school.

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Speaker 7: People do not want to go into manufacturing careers, and

839
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Speaker 7: manufacturing is an industry that you need people to grow with.

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Speaker 7: We can't as a manufacturer that's committed to making everything here,

841
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Speaker 7: we can't grow without adding people, and we can't add

842
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Speaker 7: people if people won't work in factories at any price.

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Speaker 7: But without the piece of getting people into those jobs,

844
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Speaker 7: getting them interested in those jobs when they're, say, in

845
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Speaker 7: middle school, getting their parents to consent to having their

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Speaker 7: children work a career in manufacturing on a factory floor,

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Speaker 7: probably making as much money in some of these jobs

848
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Speaker 7: as they would have if they had gone to a

849
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Speaker 7: great college and gone on to a professional career. We're

850
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Speaker 7: not gonna be able to fill these jobs with people.

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Speaker 1: We need a complete mindset shift towards valuing American made

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Speaker 1: products before our leaders will feel pressured to implement the

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Speaker 1: policy changes necessary to make made in America a reality.

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Speaker 3: I think on a larger scale, beyond the policy, we

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Speaker 3: need to change our thinking. So what this means is

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Speaker 3: we can't simply look at what is economically efficient on

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Speaker 3: a bloodless spreadsheet, but how does it work for our

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Speaker 3: communities as well. We can have economic efficiency, but it's

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Speaker 3: not the only thing that we want. As someone once said,

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Speaker 3: I believe in the market, but I don't worship the market.

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Speaker 1: We need to change our mindset about low cost foreign

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Speaker 1: made products. It doesn't take a pulitzer in economics to

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Speaker 1: understand that the goods from Bangladesh may maybe cheaper, but

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Speaker 1: if you don't have a job, not even cheap is affordable.

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Speaker 3: You've got these free trade fundamentalists over Cato Institute and everything,

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Speaker 3: saying free trade benefits America because it lowers prices for consumers. Actually,

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Speaker 3: there's economic studies that show that the loss of income

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Speaker 3: from the loss of jobs ripples through the economy, and

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Speaker 3: the income falls faster than the prices, so people end

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Speaker 3: up actually poorer despite the lower prices.

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Speaker 1: We need an entire mindset shift towards valuing made in

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Speaker 1: America because when we lose the industrial know how to

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Speaker 1: make things, we lose the future ability to innovate. A

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Speaker 1: country like China didn't start by manufacturing the stealth bomber.

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Speaker 1: They start by making towels, then t shirts, then the

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Speaker 1: baseball cap. Then they move up to making the machines

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Speaker 1: that fabricate the baseball cap. Then they assemble computers and

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Speaker 1: smartphones than automobiles. And when you allow foreign countries to

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Speaker 1: manufacture all of your products, they've acquired your technology as well.

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Speaker 1: Now China creates weapons systems that surpass our own.

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Speaker 5: You can't have an economy that only builds the F

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Speaker 5: thirty five.

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Speaker 3: I mean that just as impossible.

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Speaker 5: You've got to have all those supporting institutions. And right

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Speaker 5: now the military is in a world of hurt, and

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Speaker 5: there is incredible concern among the military or caremit people

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Speaker 5: and among the people that are forward thinking about the

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Speaker 5: fact that the supply chain is corrupted. They can't get

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Speaker 5: electronics for our systems now that don't have Chinese components

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Speaker 5: in it. This idea that we're going to keep moving

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Speaker 5: up the ladder and always make the best and newest

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Speaker 5: product and let them do the dirty work, Yeah, that

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Speaker 5: just doesn't exist because you've got to have people who

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Speaker 5: are trained and learn how to do skills in a

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Speaker 5: variety of different industries in order to get stuff done.

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Speaker 1: Powerful financial groups are relying on Americans to be complacent

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Speaker 1: and fall for the con that cheap form products make

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Speaker 1: our country stronger. They don'tanizations like Major League Baseball allows

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Speaker 1: New Era, the sole fabricator of their baseball caps, to

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Speaker 1: offshore the fabrication of this American icon. They need to

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Speaker 1: feel the consequences of that decision. Billions of American tax

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Speaker 1: payer dollars have gone into building their baseball stadiums and

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Speaker 1: providing the infrastructure for their massive sporting events. The least

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Speaker 1: they can do is fully commit to the country that

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Speaker 1: has made them a fortune. This shift in mindset can

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Speaker 1: cause some short term pain. Red Pilled America recently dropped

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Speaker 1: its merchandise suppliers because they couldn't guarantee American made products.

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Speaker 1: We need to change our entire mindset towards valuing made

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Speaker 1: in America again, because if capitalism leads to the elimination

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Speaker 1: of more and more American jobs, people will begin to

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Speaker 1: think that maybe it's time to try something different.

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Speaker 12: Senator Sanders, can you make a simple persuasive case as

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Speaker 12: to why socialism is preferable to capitalism democratic culture?

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