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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Orge, you work with a lot of scientists. Who

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<v Speaker 1>is the brightest one you've ever interviewed?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I have made a lot of Nobel Prize winners.

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<v Speaker 4>They're all pretty humble, but yeah, generally they're pretty uh

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<v Speaker 4>sharp at that level, you know, Beams of light or

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<v Speaker 4>shooting out of their eyes. They have an ore of genius.

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<v Speaker 1>So do you think when you're talking to a scientists

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<v Speaker 1>you can predict if they're going to be a future

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<v Speaker 1>Nobel Prize winner?

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<v Speaker 4>If I could, that would be awesome. I could probably

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<v Speaker 4>make a lot of money that way. Aren't there betting

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<v Speaker 4>pools for Nobel Prize winners?

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<v Speaker 1>If there are, you probably qualify as insider information.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, good thing, I'm not a betting person. Hi am

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<v Speaker 4>Jorhemaker Tudas and the author of Oliver's Great Big Universe.

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<v Speaker 1>Hi Daniel, I'm a particle physicist, a professor at you

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<v Speaker 1>see Irvine, and I actually do have a tiny slice

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<v Speaker 1>of a Nobel Prize.

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<v Speaker 4>Ooh, what does that mean? Like they shaved off a

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<v Speaker 4>piece of the metal or something.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm one of a large group of collective winners

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<v Speaker 1>of the Nobel Prize.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh.

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<v Speaker 1>Several years ago they gave the Nobel Peace Prize to

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<v Speaker 1>the European Union, and that's back when Britain was a member.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm a citizen of the UK, so I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>sure if i lost it during Brexit, but I was

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<v Speaker 1>briefly one five hundred millionth of a Nobel Prize winner.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I see you and all Europeans have won the

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<v Speaker 4>Nobel Prize. Well, technically you're not a part of Europe,

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<v Speaker 4>so yeah, I think you did lose it.

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<v Speaker 1>I used to round that up to one Nobel Prize.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I guess I got to round it down to zero.

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<v Speaker 4>Zero. Yeah, I think you could have rounded it down

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<v Speaker 4>to zero before. You know, one fortieth million probably maybe

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<v Speaker 4>count to zero.

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<v Speaker 1>Well to me, one five hundred millionth was pretty different

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<v Speaker 1>from zero, but I take your point.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyways, welcome to our podcast, Daniel and Jora Explain

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<v Speaker 4>the Universe, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 1>In which we think everybody deserves a prize for their

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<v Speaker 1>curiosity about the universe. We're here to stimulate that curiosity,

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<v Speaker 1>to encourage it, and to go with you on the

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<v Speaker 1>journey of exploration of understanding the universe. We think, we hope,

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<v Speaker 1>we believe that the universe out there can be understood

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<v Speaker 1>and deserves to be understood, and that everything that scientists

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<v Speaker 1>have figured out so far and that they're puzzling over

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<v Speaker 1>currently deserves to be explained to you.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right. We're here to illuminate the darkest corners of

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<v Speaker 4>science and take you on a trip to the bright

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<v Speaker 4>future of our understanding of how things work and why

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<v Speaker 4>things are the way they are.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to understand everything here on Earth, how water flows,

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<v Speaker 1>how mountains form the history of life, but we also

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<v Speaker 1>want to understand our vast cosmos, what's happening in the

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<v Speaker 1>dark deep reaches of space. How did the universe get

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<v Speaker 1>to look the way that it does. What are the

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<v Speaker 1>most powerful forces on galaxies and stars and galactic clusters

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<v Speaker 1>out there shaping the entire structure of space, time, and

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<v Speaker 1>the universe. And to do that we have to look

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<v Speaker 1>out into the night sky and gather messages that are

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<v Speaker 1>coming here from the rest of the universe.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because the cosmos is vast and mostly dark, with

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<v Speaker 4>lots of empty space, But there are some bright spots

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<v Speaker 4>out there making the universe visible to us and giving

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<v Speaker 4>us information about what's out there in the farthest reaches

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<v Speaker 4>of existence.

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<v Speaker 1>Though very few humans have actually left the surface of

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth for significant periods of time and entered even

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<v Speaker 1>our space neighborhood, we have a pretty good understanding of

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<v Speaker 1>what's going on in the rest of our galaxy, the

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<v Speaker 1>structure of galaxies beyond that, and all of that comes

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<v Speaker 1>from gathering that information that's beamed to us from the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the universe. Imagine if instead the universe was

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<v Speaker 1>totally dark, we would have no idea what was out there.

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<v Speaker 1>We're grateful that at least some little fraction of it

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<v Speaker 1>is shining brightly and letting us know, oh what it's

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<v Speaker 1>up to.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there are things happening all over the universe creating light,

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<v Speaker 4>blasting it out into the universe, but some of them

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<v Speaker 4>are maybe a little bit stronger than others.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. We have a whole series of episodes about

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<v Speaker 1>the darkest things in the universe, dark matter, and the

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<v Speaker 1>mysteries of the missing gravity. But today in the podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to go in exactly the opposite direction.

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<v Speaker 4>So to On the podcast, we'll be tackling the question

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<v Speaker 4>what was the brightest explosion ever seen?

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<v Speaker 1>And was it that moment when Jorge finally understood particle physics? Boom,

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<v Speaker 1>mind a blown as it happened. I'm anticipating it, man,

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<v Speaker 1>we're building up to it.

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<v Speaker 4>Has that even happened for you?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, there's that old quote, if you think you

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<v Speaker 1>understand quantum field theory, then you don't understand quantum field theory.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's a matter of degrees, I think.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, it's a dimmer setting a light bulb of

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<v Speaker 4>quantum physics. But yeah, there are explosions happening all over

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<v Speaker 4>the universe, and some of them are incredibly bright, and

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<v Speaker 4>some of them are less bright. But maybe we haven't

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<v Speaker 4>seen all of them. Maybe there are some that we

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<v Speaker 4>have managed to see out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Something that's wonderful about exploring the universe is being shocked

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<v Speaker 1>by the scale of it. Learning how deep the history

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<v Speaker 1>of time is, not thousands of years, not millions of years,

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<v Speaker 1>but billions of years, Learning how large the universe is,

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<v Speaker 1>how many billions of light years across stuff has spread out.

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<v Speaker 1>These enormous scales that shock our understanding also serve to

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<v Speaker 1>give us a better context for our existence. Turns out

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth and the Milky Way are a tiny little

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<v Speaker 1>speck of dust in the vast cosmos. But there are

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<v Speaker 1>other dimensions to be shocked. In the sun you think

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<v Speaker 1>is quite bright, it turns out the universe gets much much,

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<v Speaker 1>much brighter than that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, the universe never sees this to make us all

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<v Speaker 4>feel tiny and insignificant and short lived compared to the

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<v Speaker 4>scale of the cosmos. And its existence. As you said,

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<v Speaker 4>there are things that maybe would even shock of physicists

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<v Speaker 4>about how bright they are.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, and today we're going to be learning about the

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<v Speaker 1>brightest of all time what physicists called the boat the

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<v Speaker 1>boat boat.

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<v Speaker 4>The biggest of all time, the brightest of.

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<v Speaker 1>All time, not the banana East of all time.

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<v Speaker 5>The.

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<v Speaker 4>Amazing of all time. So, as usual, we were wondering

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<v Speaker 4>how many people out there had thought about this question

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<v Speaker 4>about what is the brightest explosion ever seen in the universe.

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<v Speaker 4>So Daniel went out there as usual to ask people

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<v Speaker 4>this question.

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<v Speaker 4>And today, Daniel, what are our players playing for?

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<v Speaker 1>They're playing for the recognition of having their voice on

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<v Speaker 4>Will all be jealous, They'll be brightly jealous.

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<v Speaker 1>They're playing for the biggest banana of all time.

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<v Speaker 4>So think about it for a second. What do you

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<v Speaker 4>think is the brightest explosion ever seen? Here's what people

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<v Speaker 4>had to say.

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<v Speaker 5>I am going to say that is a supernova explosion,

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<v Speaker 5>either that or the source of whatever gamma ray bursts are.

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<v Speaker 6>The biggest explosion ever seen would have to be the

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<v Speaker 6>Big Bang, although there was nobody around to see it.

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<v Speaker 6>We can still see the cosmic microwave background radiation, so

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<v Speaker 6>we still can see it. But that's not really bright anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 6>You got me in a quandary here, So it's probably

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<v Speaker 6>a supernova.

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<v Speaker 7>I would imagine the Big Bang was pretty bright, maybe

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<v Speaker 7>gamma ray burse but maybe something to do with merging

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<v Speaker 7>black holes or merging neutron stars. I guess bright doesn't

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<v Speaker 7>necessarily have to be in our visible spectrum.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, A couple of answers. Kind of a trick

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<v Speaker 4>answers here. The Big Bang was maybe the biggest explosion.

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<v Speaker 4>Can't argue with that.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't actually argue with that. I don't think of

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<v Speaker 1>the Big Bang as an explosion. I think of it

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<v Speaker 1>as an expansion.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, I see, you're gonna use grammar to disqualify their answer.

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<v Speaker 1>I know, words meanings, words having meanings are so annoying.

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<v Speaker 4>I know it should just all be bath right, But

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you do call it the Big Bang? I

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<v Speaker 4>mean yourself are saying it's a bang.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know there's that famous story about how the

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<v Speaker 1>Big Bang was not named by anybody who actually believed

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<v Speaker 1>in the Big Bang, but by proponents of the steady

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<v Speaker 1>state theory.

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<v Speaker 4>Physicis still call it the Big Bang?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, they do still call it the Big Bang?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, absolutely, they don't call it the Big Stretch or

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<v Speaker 4>the Big Expansion.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we should call it the Big Stretch. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's a much better name. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, Maybe we should amend the title of this episode

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<v Speaker 4>to what was the biggest explosion besides the Big Bang?

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<v Speaker 1>The brightest explosion? Though? Yeah, good question. I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>how you measure the brightness of the Big Bang.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, the way we phrased this question, what was the

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<v Speaker 4>brightest explosion ever seen? Are we only counting the ones

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<v Speaker 4>that we've seen or that we think happened, or is

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<v Speaker 4>that the same?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we're only going to talk about the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>we've seen. But as soon as you've seen something extraordinarily bright,

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<v Speaker 1>it means that there's something out there capable of making

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<v Speaker 1>very very bright explosions, and it's very unlikely you've seen

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<v Speaker 1>the brightest one. So it's like discovering a unicorn. You figure, ooh,

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<v Speaker 1>there are probably other unicorns in the forest, maybe even

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<v Speaker 1>with longer horns. So we could only talk about the

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<v Speaker 1>brightest one we've seen. That suggests that there are very

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<v Speaker 1>likely even brighter explosions out there we haven't seen.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's an assumption, right, I mean, there could just

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<v Speaker 4>be one unicorn out there in the universe.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh absolutely, it's a statistical statement. But yes, as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as you discover one unicorn, you figure, like, well, probably

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<v Speaker 1>had parents, maybe it had siblings. You know, there are

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<v Speaker 1>probably other unicorns out there, but it could be the

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<v Speaker 1>sole unicorn, you know, created by a random collection of

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<v Speaker 1>quantum fluctuations. That's also a possibility, even if it's unlikely.

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<v Speaker 4>It could be the unicorn of unicorn spotting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we could sell it for a billion dollars. That

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<v Speaker 1>should be our startup. My start idea is, give me

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<v Speaker 1>a billion dollars, I will make you a unicorn, and

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<v Speaker 1>then it'll be a unicorn startup.

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<v Speaker 4>You would only make one unicorn otherwise, it's not worth much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but if you only have one, you can set

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<v Speaker 1>the price, right. I Mean, I'm not an economist.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think that's how economy worries. Sure, well, that's

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<v Speaker 4>our problem.

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<v Speaker 1>We're selling shares in our unicorns, folks, Unicorn singular.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyways, it's an interesting question. Well, what's the brightest

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<v Speaker 4>explosion ever seen? And so Daniel steps through, what are

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<v Speaker 4>some things that can cause explosions in the universe?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, first, I think it's useful to think about brightness, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>what do we mean by brightness? Obviously, you're very bright,

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<v Speaker 1>All of our listeners are very bright, our children are

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<v Speaker 1>very bright. But when we talk about brightness in an

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<v Speaker 1>astronomical setting, what we mean is like how many photons

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<v Speaker 1>are arriving from it to Earth. And it used to

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<v Speaker 1>be that astronomy only really dealt with photons. We had

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<v Speaker 1>telescopes that could see photons. We used our eyeballs. These days, though,

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<v Speaker 1>we have other devices like particle detectors and gravitational wave

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<v Speaker 1>detectors that can see other kinds of messengers from astronomical events.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, would brightness and photons be the best way to

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<v Speaker 4>measure the energy of an explosion like could there be

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<v Speaker 4>an explosion that maybe you know, throws up part other

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<v Speaker 4>kinds of particles more than photons or neutrinos or something

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<v Speaker 4>like that that might have more energy but be less bright,

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<v Speaker 4>or there's like a pretty good indication of the energy.

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<v Speaker 1>No, different astronomical events have a different fraction their energy

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<v Speaker 1>produced in photons, in neutrinos, or in gravitational waves. So

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<v Speaker 1>the best way to do astronomy they call these days

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<v Speaker 1>multi messenger astronomy, where you're looking for photons and you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for particles, and you're looking for gravitational waves. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the best way to get a handle on what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, when we look at neutrons star collisions, you

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<v Speaker 1>can sometimes see a gravitational wave and also see light

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<v Speaker 1>from the collision. But sometimes like supernova can release huge

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<v Speaker 1>amounts of energy just in neutrinos, because when the neutrinos

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<v Speaker 1>are produced in the supernova, they're not reabsorbed, they just

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<v Speaker 1>fly right out because the supernova itself, though it's super dense,

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<v Speaker 1>is also transparent to those neutrinos, whereas photons get reabsorbed.

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<v Speaker 1>So definitely there are things that are brighter in neutrinos

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<v Speaker 1>than in photons, so that makes it very, very complicated.

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<v Speaker 1>I think today, let's just focus on the photons.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, let's just focus on the photons, because my eyeballs

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<v Speaker 4>can't see neutrinos yet.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd have to have eyeballs the size of swimming pools.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, Daniel, that's very flattering. Thank you. You say my

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<v Speaker 4>eyes are endless pools of of chlorinated water. Yeah, of

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<v Speaker 4>physics detection technology.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you're like an anime character with big eyes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other issue with brightness is that it depends

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit on where you are. Like you could

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<v Speaker 1>have a really bright source, but it's really really far away,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it appears quite dim. Like when quasars were

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<v Speaker 1>first discovered, they were quite bright in the sky, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we discovered, oh my gosh, they're also super dup

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<v Speaker 1>far away, which means at their source they're extraordinarily bright.

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<v Speaker 1>So what astronomers typically do is define brightness by how

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<v Speaker 1>bright something would seem if you were one AU away

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<v Speaker 1>from it, If you were like the distance the Earth

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<v Speaker 1>is from the Sun away from that object, how bright

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<v Speaker 1>would it be.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what an AU is, right, It's like an Earth

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<v Speaker 4>distance from the Sun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, so step us through, like how bright are

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<v Speaker 4>things in the night sky?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so if you define the Sun as brightness of one,

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<v Speaker 1>then you can look at things like some of the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest stars that are out there, Like the biggest brightest

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<v Speaker 1>star ever discovered. It's three hundred and fifteen solar masses.

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<v Speaker 1>It's got the amazing name of R one three six

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<v Speaker 1>a one, and it's eight point three million times brighter

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<v Speaker 1>than the Sun. Like if you took that star, what, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you took that star and put it in our solar

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<v Speaker 1>system and looked up at the sky, it would be

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<v Speaker 1>eight point three million times as intense as the Sun.

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<v Speaker 4>Wow, you would need eight point three layers of sunblock

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<v Speaker 4>just to walk out into the Sun.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight point three million, Yes, it's ex million, Yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the brightest star in the universe already. That

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<v Speaker 1>gives you a sense of like, Wow, this stuff in

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<v Speaker 1>our neighborhood not really that bright. When we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>like Hall of Fame brightness.

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<v Speaker 4>Wouldn't this star be huge or is it still a

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<v Speaker 4>small star?

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<v Speaker 1>No, it's very large. It's right up on the edge

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<v Speaker 1>of the biggest star you can have around three hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifteen solar masses. Because bigger stars have a higher

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<v Speaker 1>temperature at their core, so they burn hotter and faster,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't last very long typically, and they also produce

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<v Speaker 1>an enormous amount of radiation which pulls the star apart.

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<v Speaker 1>Stars are actually a delicate balance between the radiation pressure

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<v Speaker 1>from fusion and the gravitational pressure inwards from all of

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<v Speaker 1>that mass. So it's sort of incredible that so many

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<v Speaker 1>stars are stable for millions and billions of years. These

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<v Speaker 1>guys essentially tear themselves apart. Anything bigger than that can't

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<v Speaker 1>really last very long. So this is the brightest star

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<v Speaker 1>I ever seen.

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<v Speaker 4>Could you even stand at one AU away from the star?

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<v Speaker 4>Would you be inside the star?

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<v Speaker 1>You wouldn't be inside the actual edge of the star.

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<v Speaker 1>Its radius is like forty three times the radius of

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<v Speaker 1>the Sun. So it's much much denser than our sun.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's nowhere near an au for example.

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<v Speaker 4>And why is it brighter? Is it just the more

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<v Speaker 4>dense so there's more fusion going on.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, fusion is very nonlinear, and so because you have

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<v Speaker 1>so much more mass and it's more dense, then it's

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<v Speaker 1>much hotter. The pressure and temperature at the core is

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<v Speaker 1>much greater. And remember that while there's fusion happening at

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<v Speaker 1>the core of our star, it's still pretty inefficient, Like

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<v Speaker 1>most of the hydrogen in the star is not fusing,

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<v Speaker 1>because fusion is a hard thing to make happen. You

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<v Speaker 1>got these two protons, you're trying to squeeze them together.

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<v Speaker 1>There are electromagnetic forces are trying to push them apart.

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<v Speaker 1>Most of the time in the Sun, protons don't fuse.

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<v Speaker 1>But the higher the temperature and the higher the pressure,

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<v Speaker 1>the more often you do get fusion happening. And so

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<v Speaker 1>the fusion is just much more efficient at the heart

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<v Speaker 1>of this star, which heats the whole thing up and

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<v Speaker 1>makes it brighter.

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<v Speaker 4>WHOA, but you said they don't last pretty long.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, these stars last for like millions of years, whereas

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<v Speaker 1>smaller stars like hours less billions and red dwarfs can

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<v Speaker 1>last even longer, maybe even up to trillions of years.

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<v Speaker 1>We're not sure because the universe is kind of young

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<v Speaker 1>compared to the expected lifetime of some of these stars.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, is that as bright it gets out there in space?

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<v Speaker 1>That's not even close to how bright things get. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the brightest star we've seen. But stars are not bright

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<v Speaker 1>compared to like the radiation emission at the hearts of galaxies.

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<v Speaker 1>Big galaxies have big black holes at their centers, and

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<v Speaker 1>their enormous gravity creates a lot of high temperature and

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<v Speaker 1>high pressure in the accretion disk around the black hole.

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<v Speaker 1>So the black hole, of course is black. Maybe this

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<v Speaker 1>hawking radiation, but that would be very, very dim. But

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<v Speaker 1>because it has so much gravitational energy, there's a big

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<v Speaker 1>swirling mass of stuff around the black hole, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is so hot it's emitting a lot of radiation. That

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<v Speaker 1>radiation then gets guided by the magnetic field of the

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<v Speaker 1>black hole up and down the poles, sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>same way that like the Aurora borealis guides charged particles

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<v Speaker 1>to the north pole and the south pole. Here, the

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<v Speaker 1>magnetic field of the quasar creates two beams of particles

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<v Speaker 1>when shooting up the north pole and when shooting down

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<v Speaker 1>the south pole. And that's what a quasar is. That's

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<v Speaker 1>also called an active galactic nucleus WHOA.

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<v Speaker 4>So it creates a jet of particles or light for both.

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<v Speaker 1>If you look at pictures of galaxies with jets, these

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<v Speaker 1>jets can be enormous. They can be even much longer

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<v Speaker 1>than the galaxy itself. The power of the hearts of

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<v Speaker 1>these galaxies is really incredible. And there's an enormous amount

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<v Speaker 1>of photons also emitted here because this is just like

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<v Speaker 1>hot particles, and hot particles emit photons.

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<v Speaker 4>Because I guess it can't guide the photons to the

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<v Speaker 4>North pole and South poles, but it guides other particles,

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<v Speaker 4>and in those particles are what emit the brightness the light.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. And anytime you have charge particles changing direction,

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<v Speaker 1>like an electron flies to a magnetic field and bends,

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<v Speaker 1>how does it bend, It has to bend by emitting

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<v Speaker 1>a photon. So you have accelerating charged particles, you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to get lots and lots of photons, like in the

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<v Speaker 1>particle colliders like the Large Hadron Collider or the Large

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<v Speaker 1>Electron positron Collider. One of the biggest challenges is that

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<v Speaker 1>these particles are bending with magnets and constantly losing energy

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<v Speaker 1>to radiation, and so that's why you get so many photons.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, I have more questions about this quasar and

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<v Speaker 4>about maybe what could be even brighter than a quasar,

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<v Speaker 4>All right, we're talking about the brightest explosion ever seen.

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<v Speaker 4>And Dan, you were saying, a quasar has many times

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<v Speaker 4>more brightness than the brightest star that we know about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, quasars in the sky are like bafflingly bright. It

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<v Speaker 1>was a huge mystery for a long time before we

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<v Speaker 1>even knew that there were black holes at the hearts

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<v Speaker 1>of galaxies. People saw these sources in the sky and

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<v Speaker 1>they calculated the distance and then they were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, it's already brightened the sky and it's super

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<v Speaker 1>duper far away because quasars tend to be formed in

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<v Speaker 1>the early universe and not recently, so all the quasars

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<v Speaker 1>we see are like really far across the universe. And

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<v Speaker 1>so you do that calculation, you discover that, like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>quasars are trillions of times brighter than the Sun. Trillions trillions. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>there's one called three C two seven threes, the brightest

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<v Speaker 1>quasar we know officially, and it's four trillion times brighter

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<v Speaker 1>than the Sun. Like, if you were one a you

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<v Speaker 1>away from it, it would be equivalent to having four trillion suns.

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<v Speaker 4>But only if you're one au at the north or

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<v Speaker 4>south poles.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Yes, exactly, if you're at the horizontal or you're

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit tilted away from it, then it's less bright.

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<v Speaker 4>Now does that technically count as an explosion?

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<v Speaker 5>Though?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it counts as an explosion because it's constant,

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<v Speaker 1>but it is super duper bright, and.

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<v Speaker 4>It's super directed too, right, Like you said, it's not

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<v Speaker 4>like it's not an explosion going in all directions. It's

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<v Speaker 4>like more like a laser.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's more like a laser, like a pencil beam,

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<v Speaker 1>which is actually really useful, and we can use these

0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:34.000
<v Speaker 1>quasars not just to understand the early universe, but also

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<v Speaker 1>to understand what's between us and the quasars. There's lots

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<v Speaker 1>of studies where people examine the light from quasars and

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<v Speaker 1>they use as a probe of all like the material

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<v Speaker 1>between us and the quasar, for example, the dark matter

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<v Speaker 1>density and the gravitational lensing that happens along the way.

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<v Speaker 1>They're really useful. Sometimes a quaser can get even brighter

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<v Speaker 1>due to relativistic effects. These quasars are called blazars. If

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<v Speaker 1>the quasar is moving towards us, then its light is

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<v Speaker 1>enhanced by relativistic effects and it can seem even brighter

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<v Speaker 1>than a quasar.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, a blazar is a quasar that's moving towards us.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not just a quasar with a nice jacket on.

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<v Speaker 4>Is that what you mean? Like, it's a quasar moving

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<v Speaker 4>towards us.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, a blazar is a quasar, it's not doesn't have

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<v Speaker 1>to be just moving towards us, but it's pointed like

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<v Speaker 1>directly at the Earth. We can see these quasars even

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<v Speaker 1>if they're not directly at us, because we can see

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<v Speaker 1>their jets and the light emitted. But if they are

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<v Speaker 1>actually pointed directly at us, then we call them a blazar.

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<v Speaker 4>Wait, that's the only difference is that it's pointing at us.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, blazars are quasars that are basically pointing right at

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<v Speaker 1>the Earth.

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<v Speaker 4>And you need a whole new name for that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, it's historical. People see these things in

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<v Speaker 1>the sky. They don't always understand the connections between them.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, why do we even have constellations? You could say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>now we know that like stars and constellations, some of

0:27:50.720 --> 0:27:52.439
<v Speaker 1>them are super close and some of them are across

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<v Speaker 1>the galaxy. Why don't we group them together? It's historical.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, people have called that ursa minor for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time, so we're gonna keep doing it.

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<v Speaker 4>So blazar, then, is a quasar that's pointing at us.

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<v Speaker 5>Now?

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<v Speaker 4>Is it brighter than four trillion times brighter than the sun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the brightest blazar is three hundred trillion times brighter

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<v Speaker 1>than the sun. So we're talking about a factor of

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred boost when a quasar is pointed right at us.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is if we're one au at the north

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<v Speaker 4>and south pole of a quasar, it's three hundred trillion

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<v Speaker 4>times more brighter than the sun. But if we're not

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<v Speaker 4>in the north and south pole, you're saying it's more

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<v Speaker 4>like four trillion times.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, And so not recommended to do any sunbathing

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<v Speaker 1>on the north or south pole of a.

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<v Speaker 4>Blazar unless you have three hundred trillion layers of sunblock.

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<v Speaker 1>Also known as like three light years of lead, still

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<v Speaker 1>might not be enough.

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<v Speaker 4>Now that sounds pretty intense. But if we're counting beams,

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder like, is it brighter than the brightest laser

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<v Speaker 4>we've made here on Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>It's much brighter than the brightest laser. Yes, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>if you were one AU from the brightest laser, you

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<v Speaker 1>would not think it's very bright. Even a laser is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty colimated. It's going to spread out, and an au

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<v Speaker 1>is a large distance.

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<v Speaker 4>But in terms of intensity per you know area, is

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<v Speaker 4>it as intense or more intense?

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<v Speaker 1>These blazars are much more intense than any source on

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<v Speaker 1>Earth at one AU. Yes, but these are constant things, right,

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<v Speaker 1>blazer is key pumping out, so I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>it really counts as explosions. And the brightest thing in

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<v Speaker 1>the universe is actually not something that's constant.

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<v Speaker 4>So then we are disqualifying quasars and blazers from being

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<v Speaker 4>the boats.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't even need to disqualify them. They don't even qualify.

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<v Speaker 4>We're seeking their chances of being the boat.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we're going to torpedo them. But even if we didn't,

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<v Speaker 1>they still wouldn't qualify because the brightest thing in the

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<v Speaker 1>universe is an explosion, and it's also much brighter than

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<v Speaker 1>the most constant thing in the universe, which are blazers.

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<v Speaker 4>WHOA all right, what are these things that are brighter

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<v Speaker 4>than a blazer? Is it a dinner jacket? R?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's white tie or black time?

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<v Speaker 6>Right?

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<v Speaker 1>Which is brighter?

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<v Speaker 10>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>It's a glittery disco jackets.

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh, sparkle tie. Yeah. The brightest explosion in the universe,

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<v Speaker 1>and also the brightest thing we've ever seen is a

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<v Speaker 1>gamma ray burst. These are sort of mysterious and enormous

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<v Speaker 1>bursts of gamma rays. Gamma rays are just very high

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<v Speaker 1>energy photons that we see sometimes in the night sky.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, meaning like we have gamma ray antenna and gamma

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<v Speaker 4>rays are just a kind of light, right, like it's

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<v Speaker 4>a high frequency light.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Gamma rays are very very high energy. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Photons exist all across the electromagnetic spectrum. Some of them

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<v Speaker 1>we call in the visible range. Some are very long

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<v Speaker 1>wavelength and infrared or radio waves. But these are just

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<v Speaker 1>artificial divisions. Above the visible we have ultraviolet and then

0:30:41.800 --> 0:30:44.000
<v Speaker 1>X rays and then gamma rays. But again these are

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<v Speaker 1>just like historic dotted lines we've put on the electromagnetic spectrum.

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<v Speaker 1>There's nothing above gamma rays. So gamma rays include everything

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<v Speaker 1>above X rays and then out to infinite energy.

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<v Speaker 4>Whoa. So we have these antennas out there on Earth

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<v Speaker 4>like in the tech gamma rays and sometimes we get

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<v Speaker 4>these birds coming from space like these huge kind of

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<v Speaker 4>waves of gamma rays.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. And it's fascinating history because this is something

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<v Speaker 1>that really benefits from the Cold War. Like in the

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:13.840
<v Speaker 1>second half of last century, the United States military was

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<v Speaker 1>really curious whether the Soviet Union was doing atmospheric nuclear

0:31:17.520 --> 0:31:20.959
<v Speaker 1>testings before it was ruled out. So they built satellites

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<v Speaker 1>and all sorts of technology to try to detect nuclear testing,

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<v Speaker 1>and sure they found some, I guess, but they also

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<v Speaker 1>spotted these weird bursts in the sky of gamma rays

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<v Speaker 1>that they didn't understand that were not coming from below,

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:37.840
<v Speaker 1>they were coming from above. That's how gamma ray bursts

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<v Speaker 1>were first discovered. I love when we spend money on

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<v Speaker 1>the military we accidentally end up doing science.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you making a case for more military spending.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think military spending is a very efficient way

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<v Speaker 1>to do science. I'm just grateful when sometimes that money

0:31:53.200 --> 0:31:55.600
<v Speaker 1>turns out to be useful for science as well.

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<v Speaker 4>See, I see, it's a win. It's a win for everyone.

0:31:59.040 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'll take it. I mean, the military budget totally

0:32:01.520 --> 0:32:04.719
<v Speaker 1>dwarfs the SIGNS budget. But anyway, that's a topic for

0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:05.360
<v Speaker 1>another time.

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<v Speaker 4>How bright are these gamma ray bursts?

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them are crazy, crazy bright. Like we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>gamma ray bursts that are a million trillion times brighter

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<v Speaker 1>than the sun, like a quadrillion times brighter than the sun.

0:32:19.920 --> 0:32:23.720
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, in terms of how brid we think they

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<v Speaker 4>are at the source you're on Earth. We don't get

0:32:26.360 --> 0:32:28.880
<v Speaker 4>a million trillion times more gamma rays than the sun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's right. We were all killed several years ago

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<v Speaker 1>due to gamma ray burst. We're just now catching up. No,

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<v Speaker 1>this is at the source absolutely. Fortunately for us, they're

0:32:37.760 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 1>quite distant, so when they get here on Earth, there's

0:32:40.280 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 1>a few very high energy gamma rays. But we're not

0:32:43.000 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 1>all fried.

0:32:44.600 --> 0:32:46.480
<v Speaker 4>But so, how do we know how far they are?

0:32:46.680 --> 0:32:48.880
<v Speaker 4>Like we're just getting a blip on our antennas, Like,

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<v Speaker 4>how do we know, like how far away they came from?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a good question. We're not exactly sure because

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<v Speaker 1>for many of them, you look in the night sky

0:32:56.000 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 1>where they came from, and there's like nothing there. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like you can point to say, oh, it came

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<v Speaker 1>from this star that went supernova, or it came from

0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 1>that galaxy. Like you look at the sky, you're like, oh,

0:33:05.200 --> 0:33:07.600
<v Speaker 1>here's a huge source of gamma rays. There's nothing in

0:33:07.640 --> 0:33:10.560
<v Speaker 1>the night sky there that we can see. It must

0:33:10.560 --> 0:33:13.440
<v Speaker 1>mean that there's something extraordinarily distant. So there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of uncertainty on the inherent brightness of these things.

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<v Speaker 4>A huge amount of uncertainty, right, Like it could be

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<v Speaker 4>something closed that's dim, or it'd be something really far

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<v Speaker 4>that's super duper bright. How do you tell the difference, Well.

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<v Speaker 1>It's definitely not something close and dim. Right, If it

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<v Speaker 1>was something close, we would see it. Because these things

0:33:28.160 --> 0:33:31.320
<v Speaker 1>are very very bright. It could be something close that's

0:33:31.360 --> 0:33:34.400
<v Speaker 1>dim most of the time and occasionally bright. But yet

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<v Speaker 1>there is uncertainty on the distance to these.

0:33:36.440 --> 0:33:39.840
<v Speaker 4>Things, meaning like the range goes from sixty what to

0:33:40.520 --> 0:33:42.280
<v Speaker 4>a million trillion times brighter than the Sun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we don't know exactly how far there are. All

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<v Speaker 1>of the gamma ray bursts that we've seen have originated

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:50.400
<v Speaker 1>from outside the Milky Way galaxy, which means that they're

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<v Speaker 1>very far away, but there's a huge range there, right,

0:33:53.320 --> 0:33:55.680
<v Speaker 1>there could be a neighboring galaxy that could be a

0:33:55.760 --> 0:33:58.680
<v Speaker 1>very very distant galaxy at the edge of the universe.

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<v Speaker 4>And we think they came from outside the Milky Way

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<v Speaker 4>because when we pinpoint where they came from, we don't

0:34:03.680 --> 0:34:05.960
<v Speaker 4>see anything that we think is in the Milky Way.

0:34:06.120 --> 0:34:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, And we think these things are extraordinarily bright,

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<v Speaker 1>and any gamma ray burst in the Milky Way that's

0:34:11.040 --> 0:34:14.520
<v Speaker 1>actually pointed towards Earth will probably fry the Earth. And

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<v Speaker 1>there are some theories about how like some mass extinctions

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<v Speaker 1>might have occurred due to gamma ray bursts in the

0:34:20.040 --> 0:34:22.759
<v Speaker 1>Milky Way, for example. But yeah, these things we think

0:34:22.800 --> 0:34:25.040
<v Speaker 1>are extraordinarily bright. I mean, it's hard to get your

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<v Speaker 1>mind around these numbers. It's easier if you express it,

0:34:28.200 --> 0:34:31.400
<v Speaker 1>like in terms of how much energy the Sun puts out.

0:34:31.719 --> 0:34:35.000
<v Speaker 1>So for example, our Sun in its entire lifetime will

0:34:35.000 --> 0:34:37.400
<v Speaker 1>put out as much energy as is in one of

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:40.040
<v Speaker 1>these gamma ray bursts for one second, So like a

0:34:40.080 --> 0:34:43.359
<v Speaker 1>second of gamma ray bursts is ten billion years of

0:34:43.400 --> 0:34:43.759
<v Speaker 1>the sun.

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<v Speaker 4>Whoa we think, Yeah.

0:34:46.080 --> 0:34:48.359
<v Speaker 1>We think there is definitely a lot of uncertainty here.

0:34:48.520 --> 0:34:50.480
<v Speaker 4>I mean it sounds like a huge amount of unsertainty, right,

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:51.719
<v Speaker 4>How do we know how far away it is?

0:34:51.880 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we don't know. We consist sort of like lower

0:34:53.600 --> 0:34:56.640
<v Speaker 1>limits because we know the nearest neighborhood and we can

0:34:56.680 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 1>tell that there's nothing there that's generating these things. You know,

0:35:00.320 --> 0:35:02.719
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of fuzziness in some general arguments there.

0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:05.439
<v Speaker 1>But you take these numbers definitely with a big grain

0:35:05.480 --> 0:35:05.880
<v Speaker 1>of salt.

0:35:06.520 --> 0:35:08.399
<v Speaker 4>And you said it was a mystery for a long time,

0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:12.120
<v Speaker 4>meaning that we still don't know what makes these bursts.

0:35:12.400 --> 0:35:15.360
<v Speaker 1>We still don't really understand it. Yeah, we have some theories.

0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:18.359
<v Speaker 1>It turns out the gamma ray bursts come in two categories,

0:35:18.440 --> 0:35:21.759
<v Speaker 1>is like shorter ones and longer ones. The shorter ones

0:35:21.840 --> 0:35:24.520
<v Speaker 1>last for like seconds or tens of seconds, and the

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:27.400
<v Speaker 1>longer ones last for like minutes. So that seems like

0:35:27.520 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 1>probably there are two different things going on there, and

0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:33.240
<v Speaker 1>there are theories. The leading theory is that short gamma

0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:36.360
<v Speaker 1>ray bursts might come from merging neutron stars, like we

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:39.480
<v Speaker 1>talked about. You know, Neutron stars are these very dense

0:35:39.560 --> 0:35:42.719
<v Speaker 1>objects that the end of life of large stars, not

0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 1>so big that they become a black hole and not

0:35:44.560 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 1>so small they become a white dwarf, but having enough

0:35:47.520 --> 0:35:50.920
<v Speaker 1>mass to become very dense neutron stars. And often these

0:35:50.960 --> 0:35:53.279
<v Speaker 1>stars are in binary systems and then at the end

0:35:53.280 --> 0:35:56.480
<v Speaker 1>of their life they're orbiting and eventually collapse and fall

0:35:56.560 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 1>into each other. And these are incredibly powerful events. They

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:03.440
<v Speaker 1>generate gravitational waves, they generate the conditions needed to make

0:36:03.520 --> 0:36:06.279
<v Speaker 1>like gold and platinum and all the heavy nuclei in

0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:10.680
<v Speaker 1>the universe, just like supernova, and also generate very high

0:36:10.800 --> 0:36:11.960
<v Speaker 1>energy gamma rays.

0:36:12.160 --> 0:36:16.360
<v Speaker 4>Would they also generate regular light like visible light, or

0:36:16.400 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 4>would they maybe only generate gamma rays, and that's why

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:21.160
<v Speaker 4>we don't see them with the naked eye.

0:36:21.320 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we definitely see neutron star collisions, and we've seen some.

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:27.719
<v Speaker 1>We've also correlated some with gravitational waves. But you know,

0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:30.760
<v Speaker 1>there's lots of different varieties of these things, different masses

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:33.759
<v Speaker 1>of neutron stars, and the collision themselves can happen in

0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:37.000
<v Speaker 1>lots of different ways. So we've seen neutron star collisions

0:36:37.000 --> 0:36:40.480
<v Speaker 1>that haven't caused huge gamma ray bursts, but there's a

0:36:40.520 --> 0:36:44.319
<v Speaker 1>speculation that sometimes neutron star collisions might cause these incredibly

0:36:44.360 --> 0:36:47.480
<v Speaker 1>bright gamma ray bursts, but it's not something we understand

0:36:47.560 --> 0:36:50.120
<v Speaker 1>very well. Even the heart of a single neutron star

0:36:50.280 --> 0:36:52.640
<v Speaker 1>is not something we understand. Like, what is the state

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:56.160
<v Speaker 1>of matter under these incredible densities? Is it a cork

0:36:56.200 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 1>gluon plasma? Is it some other state of matter? Is

0:36:58.480 --> 0:37:02.080
<v Speaker 1>it nuclear pasta all episode about this question, or really

0:37:02.120 --> 0:37:04.560
<v Speaker 1>just the very beginning of the ability to think about

0:37:04.560 --> 0:37:07.920
<v Speaker 1>these things coherently. And then take two neutron stars that

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:10.200
<v Speaker 1>are swirling around each other and the dynamics of that

0:37:10.239 --> 0:37:12.960
<v Speaker 1>and the relativity. It's really just sort of beyond our

0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:16.600
<v Speaker 1>ability to calculate in a robust manner, and so there's

0:37:16.600 --> 0:37:19.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of sort of theoretical questions about whether those

0:37:19.160 --> 0:37:20.720
<v Speaker 1>even could cause gamma ray.

0:37:20.560 --> 0:37:24.880
<v Speaker 4>Bursts, meaning they might not even be bright enough, or

0:37:24.960 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 4>they might not be enough to generate the kinds of

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:28.280
<v Speaker 4>bursts we think we're seeing.

0:37:28.400 --> 0:37:31.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's the leading theory, but it's definitely far from proven.

0:37:32.120 --> 0:37:34.520
<v Speaker 4>All right, let's digain more into what could be causing

0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:36.920
<v Speaker 4>these gamma y bursts, and then we'll get to the

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<v Speaker 4>All right, we're hopping on a boat here, Daniel, trying

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<v Speaker 4>to find the brightest of all time, the brightest explosion

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 4>of all time.

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:42.040
<v Speaker 1>Right, yes, exactly.

0:40:42.400 --> 0:40:44.480
<v Speaker 4>It's the biggest exploding boat.

0:40:46.600 --> 0:40:48.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's really wonderful. I love the experience of

0:40:49.040 --> 0:40:52.320
<v Speaker 1>just being overwhelmed by stuff that happens in the universe.

0:40:52.640 --> 0:40:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Really stretches your mind even try to conceive of these

0:40:55.520 --> 0:40:58.839
<v Speaker 1>incredible events. You know, it makes everything that happens here

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:00.319
<v Speaker 1>on Earth just seem incomes quench.

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:03.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah. I mean for it to have been so bright

0:41:03.800 --> 0:41:06.279
<v Speaker 4>that even though it's super duper duper far away, we're

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:09.080
<v Speaker 4>still seeing it here on Earth. It's pretty amazing, right,

0:41:09.160 --> 0:41:10.800
<v Speaker 4>I mean, I'm sure the rest of the universe is

0:41:10.840 --> 0:41:11.440
<v Speaker 4>also seen it.

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah exactly. And unless this is the unicorn of unicorns,

0:41:15.520 --> 0:41:17.920
<v Speaker 1>it means it's probably even brighter stuff out there that

0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:18.560
<v Speaker 1>we're missing.

0:41:18.680 --> 0:41:20.800
<v Speaker 4>Oh, maybe it is a unicorn making this.

0:41:22.040 --> 0:41:25.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Maybe it's the collision of two unicorns when they

0:41:25.320 --> 0:41:27.160
<v Speaker 1>cross their horns. Maybe that's what happens.

0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:29.200
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, Or it's a unicorn farting.

0:41:31.239 --> 0:41:33.400
<v Speaker 1>Let's keep it clean for the families out there.

0:41:35.080 --> 0:41:38.440
<v Speaker 4>It's something wrong with farts. Everybody farts, even unicorns.

0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:42.000
<v Speaker 1>This is not a fart podcast, folks. We're talking about

0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:43.840
<v Speaker 1>bright explosions, not stinky ones.

0:41:44.440 --> 0:41:48.160
<v Speaker 4>But you did say these things are really far away.

0:41:49.360 --> 0:41:53.640
<v Speaker 1>They are mind blowingly far away exactly. So we have

0:41:53.680 --> 0:41:56.960
<v Speaker 1>the short Cama ray bursts that are probably emerging neutron stars,

0:41:57.000 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 1>and then we have these longer Cama ray bursts, which

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:02.200
<v Speaker 1>just means that we see photons for longer, like a

0:42:02.320 --> 0:42:05.960
<v Speaker 1>last four minutes instead of seconds. And the leading theory

0:42:06.000 --> 0:42:10.080
<v Speaker 1>here is supernova collapse that when supernova's collapse sometimes they

0:42:10.160 --> 0:42:14.080
<v Speaker 1>create these very bright bursts of photons, not always like

0:42:14.120 --> 0:42:17.279
<v Speaker 1>we see supernovas that don't cause gamma ray bursts, but

0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:20.719
<v Speaker 1>sometimes we think like there's a jet of matter ejected

0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 1>from the supernova, Like the collapse isn't completely symmetric, and

0:42:25.239 --> 0:42:27.480
<v Speaker 1>this jet of matter sort of like a blazar or

0:42:27.480 --> 0:42:31.680
<v Speaker 1>a quasar, can accelerate particles and generate enormous bursts of

0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:32.920
<v Speaker 1>very very intense light.

0:42:33.239 --> 0:42:36.439
<v Speaker 4>M Does that mean we have to disqualify supernova from

0:42:36.480 --> 0:42:39.640
<v Speaker 4>our category here because a burst is not sort of

0:42:39.719 --> 0:42:40.800
<v Speaker 4>going in all directions.

0:42:41.200 --> 0:42:43.880
<v Speaker 1>No, I think it's fine. I don't think there's a

0:42:43.960 --> 0:42:47.440
<v Speaker 1>reason to disqualify it just because it's focused. You know,

0:42:47.520 --> 0:42:49.680
<v Speaker 1>I think it's still it's bright and it's an explosion,

0:42:49.840 --> 0:42:51.400
<v Speaker 1>so yeah, I think it qualifies as one of the

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:52.279
<v Speaker 1>brightest explosions.

0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:57.719
<v Speaker 4>It's more of a float, like the focused, focusedly bright

0:42:58.760 --> 0:43:01.840
<v Speaker 4>of all time. All right, So those are leading theories,

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:05.359
<v Speaker 4>but we're not sure. It seems you're saying maybe even

0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:09.440
<v Speaker 4>a supernova or emerging neutron stars might not be powerful

0:43:09.520 --> 0:43:11.960
<v Speaker 4>enough to generate the kinds of gamma ray burst we're seeing.

0:43:12.560 --> 0:43:15.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. And you know, this is the exciting edge

0:43:15.360 --> 0:43:17.439
<v Speaker 1>of astronomy when we see stuff in the night sky

0:43:17.520 --> 0:43:21.000
<v Speaker 1>we can't quite explain. We're not sure if it's like

0:43:21.239 --> 0:43:24.719
<v Speaker 1>a weird, extreme version of something we've already seen, or

0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:27.920
<v Speaker 1>if it's something totally new kind of thing out there

0:43:27.960 --> 0:43:30.839
<v Speaker 1>in the universe we've never considered. And that's definitely happened, right,

0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:34.120
<v Speaker 1>I think about the first time we discovered supernova or

0:43:34.200 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 1>black holes or quasars, all these things. We're discoveries of

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:39.560
<v Speaker 1>something new out there in the universe, a whole new

0:43:39.640 --> 0:43:44.200
<v Speaker 1>category of things the universe can do. So we don't

0:43:44.239 --> 0:43:46.960
<v Speaker 1>really know if gamma ray bursts represent that or if

0:43:46.960 --> 0:43:49.680
<v Speaker 1>they represent like the extreme edge of some kind of

0:43:49.680 --> 0:43:50.600
<v Speaker 1>thing we're familiar with.

0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:53.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it's pretty exciting. So is that then the brightest

0:43:53.600 --> 0:43:56.280
<v Speaker 4>thing we've seen explode out there in the universe.

0:43:56.640 --> 0:43:58.880
<v Speaker 1>So the brightest thing we've ever seen in the universe

0:43:59.040 --> 0:44:01.759
<v Speaker 1>is a gamma ray burst, and it's one that just

0:44:01.880 --> 0:44:05.200
<v Speaker 1>happened last year. Like the record was set in October

0:44:05.320 --> 0:44:06.440
<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three.

0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:11.760
<v Speaker 4>Ooh, was there a celebration? Was Thickinness World Record official

0:44:11.800 --> 0:44:13.719
<v Speaker 4>there at the telescope.

0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:18.000
<v Speaker 1>I think that everybody was too stunned, Like this is

0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:21.560
<v Speaker 1>something just crazy bright, brighter than anything we've ever seen

0:44:21.680 --> 0:44:24.440
<v Speaker 1>by like a big factor. This is one hundred times

0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:27.520
<v Speaker 1>brighter than any other gamma ray burst we've ever seen,

0:44:27.920 --> 0:44:31.920
<v Speaker 1>which remember is already like quadrillions of times brighter than

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:32.320
<v Speaker 1>the sun.

0:44:32.719 --> 0:44:36.439
<v Speaker 4>Wow, that's incredible. But then do we know how far

0:44:36.480 --> 0:44:39.359
<v Speaker 4>away this one was? Like maybe it was dimmer than

0:44:39.360 --> 0:44:40.880
<v Speaker 4>the ones before, it was just closer.

0:44:41.040 --> 0:44:43.280
<v Speaker 1>They think this one might just be closer. They actually

0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:45.640
<v Speaker 1>have a candidate to where it might have come from,

0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:48.600
<v Speaker 1>which is a galaxy only two and a half billion

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:51.520
<v Speaker 1>light years from Earth, and so it might be why

0:44:51.560 --> 0:44:55.080
<v Speaker 1>it seemed brighter here, and it seemed like the jet

0:44:55.160 --> 0:44:57.440
<v Speaker 1>might be like pointed right at us. That's sort of

0:44:57.480 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 1>one theory for why this one was so bright. But

0:45:00.640 --> 0:45:02.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, we have this telescope orbiting the Earth. It's

0:45:02.800 --> 0:45:05.920
<v Speaker 1>called the Fermi Lat and it's excellent and finding gamma

0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:08.480
<v Speaker 1>rays really high energy photons. It's kind of like a

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:10.920
<v Speaker 1>particle detector in space. So I think it's pretty cool.

0:45:11.320 --> 0:45:13.600
<v Speaker 1>Like photons enter the telescope and it's not like a

0:45:13.600 --> 0:45:17.920
<v Speaker 1>telescope like Hubble where you have lenses and optics. Instead,

0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:21.400
<v Speaker 1>it converts the photon into electron and positron then attracts

0:45:21.440 --> 0:45:23.719
<v Speaker 1>those particles. So it's sort of like a very high

0:45:23.840 --> 0:45:27.640
<v Speaker 1>energy particle detector. And this thing was totally overwhelmed, Like

0:45:27.680 --> 0:45:30.480
<v Speaker 1>it was just flooded with higher energy photons than it

0:45:30.520 --> 0:45:31.760
<v Speaker 1>had ever seen before.

0:45:32.400 --> 0:45:34.400
<v Speaker 4>Wow, Like it maxed out the sensor.

0:45:34.280 --> 0:45:37.319
<v Speaker 1>Yes, exactly, it saturated that eyeball in space. It was

0:45:37.360 --> 0:45:41.560
<v Speaker 1>totally overwhelmed, and not just our sensors, like the ionosphere,

0:45:41.880 --> 0:45:44.520
<v Speaker 1>this part of the atmosphere of the Earth. The whole

0:45:44.520 --> 0:45:47.759
<v Speaker 1>thing swelled up for several hours. This is the kind

0:45:47.760 --> 0:45:49.840
<v Speaker 1>of thing that happens when like we get a big

0:45:49.880 --> 0:45:52.880
<v Speaker 1>solar flare, like when the sun burps out an enormous

0:45:52.960 --> 0:45:56.640
<v Speaker 1>number of particles towards the Earth that the ionosphere responds.

0:45:56.960 --> 0:45:59.359
<v Speaker 1>But this is something that happened like billions of light

0:45:59.440 --> 0:46:02.160
<v Speaker 1>years away and it's still made the Earth like a

0:46:02.200 --> 0:46:03.799
<v Speaker 1>little swollen and inflamed.

0:46:04.320 --> 0:46:06.880
<v Speaker 4>WHOA, Now, how do we know where it came from?

0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:09.320
<v Speaker 1>We don't know exactly, but there's sort of a candidate

0:46:09.360 --> 0:46:12.239
<v Speaker 1>galaxy in that direction to people think maybe it came

0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:14.600
<v Speaker 1>from there. But you know, this is all very speculative.

0:46:14.640 --> 0:46:15.680
<v Speaker 1>You can't really tell me.

0:46:15.719 --> 0:46:17.640
<v Speaker 4>Like, how do we triangulate where it came from?

0:46:17.960 --> 0:46:20.480
<v Speaker 1>Oh, we can measure the direction of these photons, Like

0:46:20.680 --> 0:46:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Fermilat is a detector, and so we can see the

0:46:23.400 --> 0:46:26.279
<v Speaker 1>trajectory of the particles that come from the photon. So

0:46:26.320 --> 0:46:29.080
<v Speaker 1>we can reconstruct the direction of these photons.

0:46:29.280 --> 0:46:30.960
<v Speaker 4>What do you mean we can see the direction? How

0:46:30.960 --> 0:46:31.520
<v Speaker 4>do we do that?

0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:34.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, the photon turns into an electron and positron pair,

0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:37.719
<v Speaker 1>and those carry the momentum of the original photon, and

0:46:37.760 --> 0:46:40.560
<v Speaker 1>then we have layers of detector, So we have like

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:43.120
<v Speaker 1>ten or one hundred layers that detect the motion of

0:46:43.160 --> 0:46:45.560
<v Speaker 1>the particles that come from the photon, and then we

0:46:45.600 --> 0:46:48.320
<v Speaker 1>can reconstruct that track and it points back to where

0:46:48.320 --> 0:46:49.080
<v Speaker 1>it came from.

0:46:49.440 --> 0:46:51.640
<v Speaker 4>Oh, I see, It's like a sort of like a cake.

0:46:53.040 --> 0:46:54.879
<v Speaker 4>You know, like if you stick your finger in a cake,

0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:57.400
<v Speaker 4>you can sort of trace which direction the finger was poking.

0:46:57.560 --> 0:47:00.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, imagine like a hundred layer cake and you you

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:02.440
<v Speaker 1>like shoot a bullet through it, and then you'll take

0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:05.240
<v Speaker 1>slices of that cake and you traced where that bullet

0:47:05.239 --> 0:47:07.400
<v Speaker 1>hole was. You could figure out what direction the bullet

0:47:07.440 --> 0:47:08.480
<v Speaker 1>came from.

0:47:08.560 --> 0:47:10.320
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there you go. Just don't eat the bullet.

0:47:12.080 --> 0:47:14.000
<v Speaker 1>I was going to go with a JFK analogy, but

0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I decided to go with cakes.

0:47:18.560 --> 0:47:20.200
<v Speaker 4>We got GfK, We got the boat.

0:47:21.680 --> 0:47:24.160
<v Speaker 1>The mystery gamma ray burst came from the direction of

0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:27.720
<v Speaker 1>the Texas school Book Depository. It's all a big conspiracy theory.

0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:31.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, it's a cosmic conspiracy theory. All right. So

0:47:31.640 --> 0:47:34.759
<v Speaker 4>this was detected just last year and who detected it?

0:47:34.840 --> 0:47:37.279
<v Speaker 1>So it was detected all over the Earth. It was

0:47:37.320 --> 0:47:39.880
<v Speaker 1>seen by Fermi Laugh which is a big collaboration of

0:47:39.880 --> 0:47:43.279
<v Speaker 1>scientists from across the world. It was also seen by

0:47:43.360 --> 0:47:47.719
<v Speaker 1>the Large High Altitude Air Shower Observatory in China, and

0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:49.959
<v Speaker 1>then there was a Russian facility that saw it also,

0:47:50.880 --> 0:47:54.359
<v Speaker 1>and this observatory in China is only for very very

0:47:54.440 --> 0:47:57.280
<v Speaker 1>high energy photons, and they only ever seen a few

0:47:57.320 --> 0:48:00.840
<v Speaker 1>photons very high energy, and this time they saw five

0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:04.319
<v Speaker 1>thousand photons just from this one gamma ray burst. It's

0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:07.400
<v Speaker 1>like ten times as many as they've ever seen in

0:48:07.440 --> 0:48:11.440
<v Speaker 1>the entire history of the entire detector. They saw in

0:48:11.480 --> 0:48:15.839
<v Speaker 1>this one day. This one period lasted about seven minutes.

0:48:15.600 --> 0:48:18.120
<v Speaker 4>Long wait weaning that it was visible to the naked eye,

0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:19.680
<v Speaker 4>or you could only see it in gamma rays.

0:48:19.760 --> 0:48:21.320
<v Speaker 1>You could only see it in gamm rays. You cannot

0:48:21.320 --> 0:48:23.440
<v Speaker 1>see gamma rays with the naked eye. They're way too

0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:26.880
<v Speaker 1>high energy. And one of the most interesting and weird

0:48:26.920 --> 0:48:29.560
<v Speaker 1>things about this gamma ray burst if not just the intensity,

0:48:29.640 --> 0:48:32.520
<v Speaker 1>like the number of photons, but the energy of each

0:48:32.680 --> 0:48:36.359
<v Speaker 1>individual photon. So this thing also set a record as

0:48:36.400 --> 0:48:40.120
<v Speaker 1>sending the highest energy photon ever seen. This one photon

0:48:40.200 --> 0:48:43.799
<v Speaker 1>had eighteen terra electron volts, which is like much more

0:48:43.920 --> 0:48:47.600
<v Speaker 1>energy than protons have the Large Hadron collider. And yes,

0:48:47.640 --> 0:48:50.840
<v Speaker 1>it means it's a very very high frequency, very short wavelength.

0:48:51.520 --> 0:48:53.799
<v Speaker 1>This is the highest energy photon ever seen by a

0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:57.120
<v Speaker 1>factor of four. So like this thing is really far

0:48:57.200 --> 0:48:58.320
<v Speaker 1>out there on the tails.

0:48:58.680 --> 0:49:01.560
<v Speaker 4>Wouldn't it mean that it's really close, right, because then

0:49:02.000 --> 0:49:04.279
<v Speaker 4>don't photons kind of get stretched out as they go

0:49:04.440 --> 0:49:05.800
<v Speaker 4>further out in space.

0:49:05.920 --> 0:49:09.200
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, it's very weird for us super high energy photon

0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:12.080
<v Speaker 1>to come from really far away for two reasons. One

0:49:12.160 --> 0:49:14.400
<v Speaker 1>is you're right, if it's coming from really far away,

0:49:14.480 --> 0:49:18.279
<v Speaker 1>then as the universe expands, those photons get stretched out,

0:49:18.320 --> 0:49:20.760
<v Speaker 1>they get red shifted, right, so they get lower energy,

0:49:20.840 --> 0:49:23.879
<v Speaker 1>which means originally it had even more energy. The other

0:49:23.960 --> 0:49:27.440
<v Speaker 1>reason is that the universe is actually not very transparent

0:49:27.760 --> 0:49:31.480
<v Speaker 1>to super high energy photons. As particles get really really

0:49:31.560 --> 0:49:35.120
<v Speaker 1>high energy, they start to interact with the cosmic microwave

0:49:35.160 --> 0:49:39.640
<v Speaker 1>background radiation like protons and other cosmic ray particles. If

0:49:39.640 --> 0:49:42.880
<v Speaker 1>they're super high energy, they'll collide with the photons from

0:49:42.960 --> 0:49:45.680
<v Speaker 1>the cosmic microwave background, the remnants of the Big Bang,

0:49:46.200 --> 0:49:48.960
<v Speaker 1>and interact and disappear. The same thing is true with

0:49:49.080 --> 0:49:52.640
<v Speaker 1>super duper high energy photons interact with those photons from

0:49:52.680 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 1>the CMB. So we shouldn't be able to see photons

0:49:55.640 --> 0:49:57.960
<v Speaker 1>from really really far away because they should get absorbed

0:49:58.000 --> 0:50:00.680
<v Speaker 1>by the universe. So here we're seeing a super high

0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:03.719
<v Speaker 1>energy photon from what seems like really really far away.

0:50:03.760 --> 0:50:04.680
<v Speaker 1>It's very weird.

0:50:05.640 --> 0:50:08.200
<v Speaker 4>So we can trace where the burst came from. And

0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:11.239
<v Speaker 4>when we look in that direction, we see some galaxy

0:50:11.360 --> 0:50:13.920
<v Speaker 4>where maybe it came from. That's why you think it

0:50:13.920 --> 0:50:14.920
<v Speaker 4>came from that galaxy.

0:50:15.520 --> 0:50:18.239
<v Speaker 1>But that's you know, very speculative. It's like, yeah, it's

0:50:18.239 --> 0:50:21.040
<v Speaker 1>in the same direction in the sky, right, and that's

0:50:21.080 --> 0:50:22.920
<v Speaker 1>the first thing we see there. That doesn't mean it

0:50:22.920 --> 0:50:24.440
<v Speaker 1>came from that. I could have come from behind that.

0:50:24.480 --> 0:50:27.080
<v Speaker 1>There could be something else between us and there. Right,

0:50:27.360 --> 0:50:29.360
<v Speaker 1>we're really limited by our vantage point.

0:50:29.440 --> 0:50:31.960
<v Speaker 4>Like it could be an alien in between us and

0:50:32.040 --> 0:50:35.480
<v Speaker 4>this galaxy with like a laser pointer that SHOs lighting

0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:38.240
<v Speaker 4>the gama right direction and they're just messing with us.

0:50:38.480 --> 0:50:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, absolutely, it could be or you know, it could

0:50:41.200 --> 0:50:43.120
<v Speaker 1>be that it just came from something else and it

0:50:43.239 --> 0:50:45.720
<v Speaker 1>happened to land here on Earth. This one special photon

0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:48.440
<v Speaker 1>happened to land here on Earth at the same time

0:50:48.600 --> 0:50:51.920
<v Speaker 1>as this gamma ray burst. Right. That could have been random, or.

0:50:51.920 --> 0:50:54.160
<v Speaker 4>Maybe it's not random. What if it's like a phone.

0:50:53.920 --> 0:50:58.560
<v Speaker 1>Call, it's like a voicemail. It's like in your hotel

0:50:58.600 --> 0:50:59.480
<v Speaker 1>room when you ignore that.

0:50:59.440 --> 0:51:04.279
<v Speaker 4>Play like it's an emoji. It's a text message that

0:51:04.320 --> 0:51:05.160
<v Speaker 4>says you up.

0:51:06.120 --> 0:51:06.440
<v Speaker 6>Wow.

0:51:06.520 --> 0:51:10.440
<v Speaker 1>It's a late night booty call from aliens.

0:51:10.920 --> 0:51:13.520
<v Speaker 4>Hopefully not a booty call hopefully to science.

0:51:13.560 --> 0:51:15.360
<v Speaker 1>Call family friendly. But you know, there's a lot of

0:51:15.360 --> 0:51:18.040
<v Speaker 1>really interesting science that could be done with this, because again,

0:51:18.120 --> 0:51:21.040
<v Speaker 1>people don't understand how a photon with that much energy

0:51:21.400 --> 0:51:25.080
<v Speaker 1>could travel that far across space. One fun paper I

0:51:25.120 --> 0:51:28.240
<v Speaker 1>read suggests that maybe it wasn't a photon the whole time.

0:51:28.719 --> 0:51:32.680
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it converted to this weird theoretical particle called an axion.

0:51:33.400 --> 0:51:36.760
<v Speaker 1>There's this idea that maybe axion particles are the dark matter,

0:51:37.120 --> 0:51:39.239
<v Speaker 1>and they couple a little bit to photons, and so

0:51:39.320 --> 0:51:42.719
<v Speaker 1>photons can sometimes turn into axions. There's a set of

0:51:42.760 --> 0:51:46.080
<v Speaker 1>experiments called light shining through walls where people look for

0:51:46.320 --> 0:51:49.520
<v Speaker 1>photons penetrating stuff that photons shouldn't be able to penetrate

0:51:49.680 --> 0:51:52.960
<v Speaker 1>by turning briefly or for a while into axions and

0:51:53.000 --> 0:51:56.080
<v Speaker 1>then converting back into photons when they come near the Earth,

0:51:56.120 --> 0:51:59.640
<v Speaker 1>for example, and hit our magnetic field. So some people

0:51:59.760 --> 0:52:02.440
<v Speaker 1>argue that this might be evidence that this photon turned

0:52:02.440 --> 0:52:04.919
<v Speaker 1>into an axion, flew across the universe, and then came

0:52:05.000 --> 0:52:07.120
<v Speaker 1>back into photon. Modes so we could see it.

0:52:07.440 --> 0:52:07.680
<v Speaker 6>WHOA.

0:52:08.200 --> 0:52:11.920
<v Speaker 4>That's a little too convenient though, isn't it.

0:52:11.920 --> 0:52:14.120
<v Speaker 1>It's just hard to explain that we have no actual

0:52:14.200 --> 0:52:16.600
<v Speaker 1>explanation for this photon, like there is no way we

0:52:16.640 --> 0:52:19.480
<v Speaker 1>should see It's like an impossible photon. I mean, the

0:52:19.480 --> 0:52:23.200
<v Speaker 1>most boring explanation for this crazy photon is that it's

0:52:23.239 --> 0:52:25.480
<v Speaker 1>a mistake that we don't know how to measure the

0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:28.840
<v Speaker 1>energy of particles with super duper high energy, because remember,

0:52:28.840 --> 0:52:32.440
<v Speaker 1>we're always reconstructing these things. This is an air shower observatory,

0:52:32.480 --> 0:52:35.560
<v Speaker 1>which means you're not seeing the original photon. You're seeing

0:52:35.680 --> 0:52:38.040
<v Speaker 1>the particles that turned into when it's slammed into the

0:52:38.040 --> 0:52:42.880
<v Speaker 1>atmosphere and created this cascade of particles that are shining

0:52:42.920 --> 0:52:43.719
<v Speaker 1>and flashing light.

0:52:44.520 --> 0:52:46.760
<v Speaker 4>Meaning it could have been something else not a photon.

0:52:46.960 --> 0:52:48.759
<v Speaker 1>It could have been something else not a photon, or

0:52:48.760 --> 0:52:51.359
<v Speaker 1>it could have been something with lower energy. You know,

0:52:51.400 --> 0:52:54.560
<v Speaker 1>the uncertainty on this resolution is significant. We should also

0:52:54.600 --> 0:52:58.560
<v Speaker 1>say the Russian observatory reported an even higher energy photon

0:52:58.800 --> 0:53:01.839
<v Speaker 1>two hundred and fifty et terra electron bolts, like more

0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:05.600
<v Speaker 1>than ten times the energy of this one scene in China.

0:53:05.640 --> 0:53:08.279
<v Speaker 1>But the truth is nobody believes them. They're like, yeah, no,

0:53:08.400 --> 0:53:09.239
<v Speaker 1>you guys messed up.

0:53:09.520 --> 0:53:12.279
<v Speaker 4>Let me get this straight. We don't know what cost

0:53:12.400 --> 0:53:15.880
<v Speaker 4>this burst. We don't know where it is exactly. We

0:53:15.880 --> 0:53:17.400
<v Speaker 4>don't even know if it is a burst.

0:53:17.560 --> 0:53:19.200
<v Speaker 1>We know it's a gamma y burst. It was very,

0:53:19.280 --> 0:53:22.120
<v Speaker 1>very intense, but it has these special photons in it

0:53:22.560 --> 0:53:26.080
<v Speaker 1>that really raise some questions. Maybe we've mismeasured them, or

0:53:26.120 --> 0:53:29.760
<v Speaker 1>maybe they're evidence of axion, dark matter, or something else happening.

0:53:30.680 --> 0:53:32.600
<v Speaker 1>But there's a lot of uncertainty in these things, and

0:53:32.640 --> 0:53:34.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, the frustrating thing in astronomy is you can't

0:53:34.920 --> 0:53:37.640
<v Speaker 1>control these experiments. Like if this was something you were

0:53:37.680 --> 0:53:39.440
<v Speaker 1>doing in your lab, in your basement, or even if

0:53:39.440 --> 0:53:41.480
<v Speaker 1>a large hadron collider, you could say, let's do it

0:53:41.520 --> 0:53:44.240
<v Speaker 1>again and check. But these are just things we're lucky

0:53:44.360 --> 0:53:47.759
<v Speaker 1>or unlucky enough to see in the sky and have

0:53:47.800 --> 0:53:49.960
<v Speaker 1>to wait for it to happen again before we can

0:53:49.960 --> 0:53:51.200
<v Speaker 1>convince ourselves it's real.

0:53:51.960 --> 0:53:54.840
<v Speaker 4>I wonder then we should maybe retitle the episode, because

0:53:54.840 --> 0:53:58.160
<v Speaker 4>really we're just talking about the brightest flash we've ever seen.

0:53:58.920 --> 0:54:00.840
<v Speaker 4>We don't even know if it came from an explosion

0:54:01.200 --> 0:54:04.360
<v Speaker 4>or an alien laser or an alien phone.

0:54:04.400 --> 0:54:08.320
<v Speaker 1>Call right, yeah, or space unicorn farts yeah, absolutely.

0:54:08.040 --> 0:54:11.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, a very focused space unicorn part.

0:54:12.360 --> 0:54:15.040
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they are the aliens woo, I'm unifying the theories.

0:54:15.320 --> 0:54:18.440
<v Speaker 4>That's how they make phone calls to their fart network,

0:54:19.080 --> 0:54:21.239
<v Speaker 4>in which case it is sort of technically a booty call.

0:54:24.200 --> 0:54:25.719
<v Speaker 1>People are doing a lot of work to try to

0:54:25.800 --> 0:54:28.600
<v Speaker 1>understand this better. They're trying to see, like was there

0:54:28.640 --> 0:54:32.000
<v Speaker 1>a jet of material that was emitted. By looking at

0:54:32.040 --> 0:54:34.479
<v Speaker 1>the spectrum of light that comes in the gamma ray burst,

0:54:34.480 --> 0:54:36.279
<v Speaker 1>they can try to get a sense for like what

0:54:36.400 --> 0:54:39.360
<v Speaker 1>was in that jet. Was it wide, was it narrow?

0:54:39.880 --> 0:54:41.879
<v Speaker 1>Did they have the kind of material we expect from

0:54:41.960 --> 0:54:45.239
<v Speaker 1>a collapsing star. What can we learn about the origin star?

0:54:45.320 --> 0:54:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Maybe there was something weird about the star that collapsed

0:54:48.080 --> 0:54:51.400
<v Speaker 1>that generated this incredibly bright source of light. And so

0:54:51.480 --> 0:54:54.120
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of sort of conflicting studies still about this.

0:54:54.160 --> 0:54:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Some people say the jet was really really narrow, that's

0:54:56.239 --> 0:54:58.600
<v Speaker 1>why I was bright. Another study said, no, actually the

0:54:58.640 --> 0:55:01.239
<v Speaker 1>jet looks like it was wide. But you know, there's

0:55:01.239 --> 0:55:04.120
<v Speaker 1>a lot of questions. This is early days in understanding this.

0:55:04.239 --> 0:55:06.200
<v Speaker 1>But unless we're lucky to have to see a brighter one,

0:55:06.400 --> 0:55:08.080
<v Speaker 1>this is going to be a boat for a while.

0:55:08.520 --> 0:55:11.440
<v Speaker 4>Is it possible also that maybe it was like focus somehow, right,

0:55:11.440 --> 0:55:13.920
<v Speaker 4>because isn't there a sort of lensing out there by

0:55:14.000 --> 0:55:17.040
<v Speaker 4>dark matter or maybe other things? Could something have lensed

0:55:17.120 --> 0:55:19.920
<v Speaker 4>this light to make it seem more intense?

0:55:20.320 --> 0:55:23.319
<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, Yeah, that's certainly a possibility. There's some really

0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:26.439
<v Speaker 1>cool studies to try to understand how much dark matter

0:55:26.480 --> 0:55:28.560
<v Speaker 1>there is between us and any point in the sky

0:55:28.920 --> 0:55:32.000
<v Speaker 1>by looking for evidence of lensing. We don't see lensing

0:55:32.080 --> 0:55:34.919
<v Speaker 1>evidence in this distribution, but it's certainly possible. We don't

0:55:34.960 --> 0:55:37.480
<v Speaker 1>have a great map of where the dark matter is

0:55:37.520 --> 0:55:40.600
<v Speaker 1>in the universe, and you know that's fundamental limitation to

0:55:40.680 --> 0:55:43.760
<v Speaker 1>looking at the universe only from the surface of one planet.

0:55:44.080 --> 0:55:46.680
<v Speaker 1>Anytime you get a photon, you don't exactly know where

0:55:46.719 --> 0:55:49.320
<v Speaker 1>it came from, what happened to it along the way,

0:55:49.640 --> 0:55:51.640
<v Speaker 1>And you have to try to untangle all of these

0:55:51.640 --> 0:55:55.560
<v Speaker 1>mysteries simultaneously, Right, how much dust is there between us

0:55:55.560 --> 0:55:57.560
<v Speaker 1>and there? How much dark matter is there? How much

0:55:57.600 --> 0:55:59.920
<v Speaker 1>is the universe stretching? Is that even? Is that isotro

0:56:00.160 --> 0:56:03.520
<v Speaker 1>because there's other weird stuff going on simultaneously. We have

0:56:03.600 --> 0:56:07.319
<v Speaker 1>to try to unravel these mysteries to explain this incredible

0:56:07.360 --> 0:56:08.759
<v Speaker 1>mosaic we see in the night sky.

0:56:09.200 --> 0:56:13.000
<v Speaker 4>Amazing, But I guess maybe the overall message is that

0:56:13.040 --> 0:56:15.479
<v Speaker 4>we've seen something that is brighter than what we thought

0:56:15.560 --> 0:56:18.960
<v Speaker 4>was possible, and it's pretty incredible that we're still doing that, right,

0:56:18.960 --> 0:56:21.640
<v Speaker 4>We're seeing things we didn't think could exist before.

0:56:22.200 --> 0:56:25.959
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's stunned astronomers. I mean, astronomers are used

0:56:25.960 --> 0:56:29.359
<v Speaker 1>to big numbers about the universe, but even this one

0:56:29.520 --> 0:56:31.279
<v Speaker 1>sort of like you can tell, it rocked them back

0:56:31.280 --> 0:56:32.040
<v Speaker 1>on their heels.

0:56:32.160 --> 0:56:35.200
<v Speaker 4>Well, wait, it shocked even the bright ones exactly.

0:56:35.920 --> 0:56:39.600
<v Speaker 1>Eric Urns is an astronomer who studies this kind of stuff, said, quote,

0:56:39.680 --> 0:56:41.880
<v Speaker 1>the energy of this thing is so extreme that if

0:56:41.920 --> 0:56:44.560
<v Speaker 1>you took the entire Sun and you converted all of

0:56:44.560 --> 0:56:48.080
<v Speaker 1>it into pure energy, it still wouldn't match this event.

0:56:48.280 --> 0:56:50.279
<v Speaker 1>There's just nothing comparable.

0:56:51.160 --> 0:56:54.719
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's incredible. Yeah, unless you consider farting unicorns in

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<v Speaker 4>this case, anything's possible. All right, Well, an interesting exploration

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<v Speaker 4>of an you universal or at least local world record

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<v Speaker 4>of the brightest flash we've seen. And it's mysteries.

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<v Speaker 1>And one thing we do know is that the universe

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<v Speaker 1>contains enduring mysteries. And the more we look out there

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<v Speaker 1>in the universe, the more we understand, and the more

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<v Speaker 1>we are shocked by what's out there.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and the more that we need bright people like

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<v Speaker 4>maybe you out there to figure out the mystery.

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<v Speaker 1>He's talking to you, folks, guys, not to me.

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