WEBVTT - Mick Shots: From Openings, Dak, Aldon & Surgery 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:12.840 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:12.840 --> 0:00:22.640 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:26.840 screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:31.560 Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves, 0:00:31.840 --> 0:00:40.320 and Nicky Spagnola and it is time for another edition 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:44.240 of Mick Shot. Sand We're happy you could join us 0:00:44.320 --> 0:00:48.400 all along the Dallas Cowboys Network as it is Thursday 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:52.519 at eleven am. That's our regular time slot during the offseason. 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:56.760 You've got Bill, You've got Mick, You've got Everson. And 0:00:57.080 --> 0:01:01.400 even though it is May twenty first, there's still plenty 0:01:01.440 --> 0:01:07.560 to talk about. Because Mickey Spagnola, the NFL year never ends, No, 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:10.640 it sure it doesn't end. Good Thank goodness for us, 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:13.720 right that something keeps happening and happening and happening. And 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:17.240 I knew we hit that lull there for a little 0:01:17.280 --> 0:01:21.119 while after the draft, and we did all the post 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:25.880 draft stuff and now we get something else. The facilities 0:01:25.920 --> 0:01:30.240 are starting to open, including the Cowboys. And ever since 0:01:30.280 --> 0:01:33.760 I see he upgraded his background, mine got downgraded. But 0:01:33.840 --> 0:01:38.160 ever since got a great mural behind us. Hey, come on, man, 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:43.760 that's my first interception of fifty seven. All right, really, yeah, 0:01:43.880 --> 0:01:46.400 that was my first game against the Riskins that came 0:01:46.520 --> 0:01:49.640 up the bench. I was scared as hell. Got in 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:52.720 the game. Dozman throws up a duck and I don't 0:01:52.720 --> 0:01:54.280 know why I caught it like that. I could have 0:01:54.360 --> 0:01:57.520 easily gone up with two hands, but I cradled it 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:01.040 like a baby to make sure that that was gonna 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:03.200 be my first I didn't want to screw it up. 0:02:03.640 --> 0:02:08.959 Odell Beckham did Hunt, Yes, I be so how long 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:12.680 have you had that pick? Ara? Everson? Man, I've had 0:02:12.680 --> 0:02:16.280 this since, I believe since nineteen eighty one. I had 0:02:16.320 --> 0:02:20.399 to drag it out one one about Twitter fans. He 0:02:20.480 --> 0:02:24.400 kind of gave me a little a few tips and say, hey, Everson, 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:26.679 you look kind of bland back then once you put 0:02:26.680 --> 0:02:29.640 the background in. So finally I took his advice. I 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:33.120 slid this thing in here, and you know, now you 0:02:33.160 --> 0:02:35.040 can see how Usa look what I had black hair. 0:02:35.320 --> 0:02:40.080 It was a long time ago, all right, well, very good. Well, 0:02:40.120 --> 0:02:43.920 as you can see, as most of everybody still working 0:02:43.960 --> 0:02:46.080 from home, although some are getting back to the office, 0:02:46.080 --> 0:02:49.160 and in fact there are some back at the office 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:54.040 at the Star in Frisco as well, including one owner, 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:58.960 president and general manager of your Dallas Cowboys, Jerry Jones 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:01.680 on Tuesday, it back to the Star. Let's hear what 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:05.200 Jerry had to say upon his arrival. Great to be 0:03:05.240 --> 0:03:07.639 back in the office this morning. I thought there was 0:03:07.680 --> 0:03:11.400 no better place than right here in our office, my 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:16.080 office to participate in the virtual league meeting that we're 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:19.720 having in the days and weeks ahead. I look forward 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:24.080 to welcoming many of our employees back to our workplace. 0:03:25.480 --> 0:03:30.320 We're committed to doing what is safe and smart and 0:03:30.400 --> 0:03:35.440 everything that complies with all the rules from the standpoint 0:03:35.480 --> 0:03:38.320 of our state, our county, our cities, as well as 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:41.360 the NFL rules. This is a big day for our clubs. 0:03:41.680 --> 0:03:43.720 I think it's a big day for the NFL. I 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:47.000 think it's a big day for sports. It's a big 0:03:47.080 --> 0:03:51.080 day for building confidence. We're going to be very deliberate, 0:03:51.120 --> 0:03:53.880 but we're also going to be very determined. We will 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.840 keep a close eye on the comfort and care of 0:03:56.880 --> 0:04:01.360 our employees as we're involved in this transition. They'll do 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:09.600 it the right way. So good to see some movement 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:14.440 as facilities are reopened, and as Jerry alluded to, there, 0:04:15.720 --> 0:04:19.280 of course it's a limited capacity right now. Coach is 0:04:19.320 --> 0:04:22.120 not allowed on the premises, and as far as players 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:25.720 are concerned, it's only players who are rehabbing from injuries 0:04:26.040 --> 0:04:28.840 or surgeries. But Mickey, it is a good sign that 0:04:28.920 --> 0:04:32.479 there is now a movement at the Star in Frisco. Yeah, 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:34.920 kind of a step in the right direction and kind 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:39.719 of gives you hope that things might continue to partially 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:42.200 open up. And I think, Bill, we need to point 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:46.040 out it was it was a partial opening. The NFL 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:50.919 has put a limit to how many people personnel, you know, 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:55.599 the different departments can be at the building, so it's 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:59.560 not a wide open everybody come in. Obviously we're still 0:04:59.600 --> 0:05:04.680 dooming mix shots from our respective homes. But it is 0:05:04.720 --> 0:05:06.800 a step in the right direction. I guess it does 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:10.800 give you some hope that things will relax at some point. 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:13.919 We still have a long ways to go. And you know, 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:16.960 I think the big thing that I keep hearing and 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:19.679 I'm sure the Cowboys are kind of following this. While 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:25.240 things are opening, relaxing the restrictions, we still have to 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:29.919 be very vigilant about making sure we do all the 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:33.960 things we need to do to keep ourselves safe. Not 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:37.800 only that, guys, you know, you think about the Corona, 0:05:37.880 --> 0:05:41.599 and you think about the age of not just guys 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:44.440 like ourselves. I could see some old reporters going in 0:05:44.480 --> 0:05:46.600 there trying to get a story coming out with more 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:52.039 than what they wanted. A better story, right, right, must 0:05:52.080 --> 0:05:54.600 bigger story. But I think I think you really have 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:57.640 to worry about the owners themselves. I mean, you know 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:02.039 they're up in age as well. God forbid, something happened 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:05.120 to one of the owners and they have a tough 0:06:05.160 --> 0:06:07.400 time dealing with this. I mean, this is just something 0:06:07.440 --> 0:06:10.800 we have to deal with. And I'm like Jerry Man. 0:06:10.880 --> 0:06:13.719 I know Jerry's, you know, unfortunately losing a lot of money. 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:17.320 I'm sure that's a side note for him, unfortunately, But 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:21.080 just the NFL itself and how they're going to go 0:06:21.120 --> 0:06:25.360 about doing this. This is an extremely serious situation, not 0:06:25.480 --> 0:06:29.320 just COVID itself, but the fact that the owners in 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:32.440 the NFL are losing a lot of money. These are 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:36.200 things that are weighed so heavily. So now we have 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:41.320 to balance safety versus economy. And it's not just out 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:44.240 there in the real world. But I would say the 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:49.239 real world is the NFL, because you're talking about there's 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:53.599 so much money at stake, and not just the money 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:57.880 part of it, but you think about the fans themselves. Somehow, 0:06:58.000 --> 0:07:01.880 sports and football it just kind of brings people together 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:05.679 in some way to where it might look the spiritual 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:08.240 the nation. So when he talks about how important this is, 0:07:08.720 --> 0:07:10.560 it is a lot to do with money, but it 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:12.720 also has to do with a lot of the spirit 0:07:12.840 --> 0:07:16.480 of this country right now, which is wow, it's just 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:20.000 so unusual, so unusual, you know, guys, what I saw 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:22.320 that it was pretty eye opening to me. I saw 0:07:22.520 --> 0:07:25.440 an article on how and I think it might have 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:28.560 been nationwide. There might have been just in Texas, but 0:07:28.640 --> 0:07:33.240 it was a three phase opening for high school football, 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:39.120 and the first two phases, one of the restrictions was 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:44.880 that no coach sixty five or older could take part 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:51.000 in any kind of weight training, conditioning, or whatever they're 0:07:51.040 --> 0:07:54.280 allowed to do in the first two phases. So that 0:07:54.400 --> 0:07:58.160 was like, oh my wow, that's good. That's I did 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:01.760 not know that. How are the use facts are you're 0:08:01.760 --> 0:08:05.800 gonna checking out high school football? I would have been 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:08.640 furling them for sure. I mean, when you when you 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:11.880 think about the what they're trying to do. My friend 0:08:11.920 --> 0:08:13.880 and I were making jokes the other day about, well, 0:08:13.920 --> 0:08:16.119 how are they gonna make the helmets differently, and because 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:19.280 they're gonna have to change the uniforms and everything if 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:22.200 they're even thinking about doing this again. So when you 0:08:22.280 --> 0:08:25.240 talk about the mask that they're talking about building a 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:29.080 new helmet with masks in ninety five masks in the helmets, 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:32.199 these are things that I have to be considered if 0:08:32.240 --> 0:08:34.560 you're gonna try and open up this season. So that's 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:38.000 just a professional aspect of it. What about high school kids? 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:40.719 You know what what high schools have enough money to 0:08:40.800 --> 0:08:44.920 where these helmets are gonna be you know, remade, uh 0:08:44.920 --> 0:08:49.720 and and conform to some type of standard. Uh that 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:53.480 that the new standard that Corona has brought to us. Yeah, 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:57.800 that's beyond my pay grade trying to figure out figure 0:08:57.800 --> 0:09:00.280 out any of that stuff. You know, the NFL has 0:09:00.280 --> 0:09:03.840 an advantage over the other sports most all the other sports, 0:09:03.840 --> 0:09:08.800 and that since their regular season doesn't start until September, 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:11.880 college football is in the same boat. And the NFL 0:09:12.000 --> 0:09:15.520 can now and not just sit back. I mean, they're 0:09:15.640 --> 0:09:18.120 they're doing what they can. I'm sure it was the 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:21.080 principal thing that the owners talked about in their meeting 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:24.440 on Tuesday. But they can look and see how things 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:27.720 progress as far as baseball goes, if basketball gets going 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:30.640 back at it, and hockey as well, soccer which has 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:34.280 started overseas, and they can kind of see how it 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:38.600 progresses and be able to get proactive on some of 0:09:38.640 --> 0:09:41.160 the things that the measures that they take in order 0:09:41.200 --> 0:09:45.960 to make sure everybody is safe. No, absolutely, Bill, And 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:52.880 that's why you know, I saw comment JC Tredder, the 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:59.040 new NFLPA player president, did a conference call with the media, 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:01.600 and you know, his point was, well, this is all 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:06.679 fine and good, but we can't play football without physical contact. 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:10.800 You know, we can't play football without us being you know, 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:13.880 can't stay six feet away. So he said, you know, 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:16.960 we've got a lot of things to discuss to figure 0:10:17.000 --> 0:10:21.320 out how we can go back in practice maybe, but 0:10:21.720 --> 0:10:24.080 we got to play a game. There's got to be 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:26.160 a lot more things to be talked about to make 0:10:26.160 --> 0:10:29.960 sure keeping the players safe. You know, the thing, the 0:10:30.040 --> 0:10:33.520 thing that's that's gonna be prevalent now, it's gonna have 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:37.160 to be in phases. Of course, you're talking about practice 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:39.640 is one thing. I like what you said's facts. Practice 0:10:39.720 --> 0:10:42.120 is one thing we can get out there. You know, 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:46.640 I've got a couple of camps that are considering rescheduling 0:10:46.679 --> 0:10:50.520 as well because of the relaxation in the in the standards, 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:53.439 and you have to come up with your own by 0:10:53.559 --> 0:10:56.560 laws in a gross of those camps now, because you know, 0:10:56.800 --> 0:11:01.839 even though they're not they're not that together like full contact. 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:05.600 You know, this is no contact camps, but you still 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:09.120 want to have some type of standards to where you 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:12.360 got kids so far away from each other. You know, 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:14.800 you still want to do the social distancing, which is 0:11:14.840 --> 0:11:18.280 really you gotta put them the air quotes because social 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:24.720 distancing and football and basketball and hockey, those are the sports. Okay. Now, 0:11:24.760 --> 0:11:27.880 if you want to go with activities, then yes, you 0:11:27.880 --> 0:11:31.200 can play golf. Okay, you can play tennis, and you 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:34.280 can play those other activities. But when it comes to 0:11:34.440 --> 0:11:38.400 real sports, those three that I just brought up, it's 0:11:38.440 --> 0:11:41.920 gonna be a difficult task to see how you can 0:11:43.080 --> 0:11:47.400 keep the corona down in regards to such close physical 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:51.720 contact play in playout, game in, game out, and saying 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:55.120 goes for baseball too. I mean there's you know, there's 0:11:55.120 --> 0:12:00.680 still an activity kind of still an activity not I 0:12:00.720 --> 0:12:04.160 don't know. All right, there was some news that was 0:12:04.240 --> 0:12:08.600 made yesterday make you Spagnola I'm not sure if Alden 0:12:08.640 --> 0:12:14.000 Smith is a Missouri grad, but you are a Missouri grad, right, absolutely, am. 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:18.160 And I remember watching him when he played there, and 0:12:18.600 --> 0:12:22.480 when he left a year earlier, I wasn't real happy 0:12:22.559 --> 0:12:26.120 because he was awfully, awfully good at Missouri and it 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:29.520 was reflected in the San Francisco forty nine ers in 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:34.559 twenty eleven selecting him with the seventh pick in the draft. 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:40.760 And as you mentioned, the NFL came out yesterday and 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:46.760 announced that he's conditionally reinstated. He can join the Cowboys 0:12:46.880 --> 0:12:52.440 virtual offseason program on May twenty six, So that's a 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:56.360 step in the right direction. But again, he's got to 0:12:56.400 --> 0:13:00.640 continue to do all the steps required of him to 0:13:00.760 --> 0:13:04.520 be able to end up playing. So that was good 0:13:04.559 --> 0:13:08.400 news for him, good news for the Cowboys. Now again, 0:13:08.800 --> 0:13:11.440 I don't know how much they're counting on him to 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:16.200 instantly make an impact. Got to remember Bill Everson, he 0:13:16.240 --> 0:13:20.679 hadn't played any football in five years. Yeah, that's gonna 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.120 be a tough one, guys. You know, when you talk 0:13:23.200 --> 0:13:26.080 about the limitations that he's gonna that will put upon 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:31.439 him in regards to this whole COVID, then that just 0:13:31.559 --> 0:13:35.200 adds to the drama really, and it kind of adds 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:38.920 to his recovery because you know, he's had some some 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:42.560 type of substance abuse problems, not just that, but some 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:48.280 some personality problems to where those things can be enhanced 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.720 under these type of conditions. Let's face it, guy, just 0:13:51.760 --> 0:13:54.120 because he's got a little money in his pocket and 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:57.120 he's had some success in regards for the steps he's 0:13:57.160 --> 0:14:00.560 taken to get back in the league, there's still a 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:04.360 mental process that he obviously still has to deal with. 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:09.760 And this whole shutdown it has not it won't bode well. 0:14:10.360 --> 0:14:12.679 It usually does bode well for people with those kind 0:14:12.720 --> 0:14:16.000 of issues, So he has to be even more conscious 0:14:16.080 --> 0:14:19.440 of the issue that he has in front of him. 0:14:19.840 --> 0:14:23.640 Forget football right now, he's already taken care of that. 0:14:23.640 --> 0:14:26.640 That's a good thing that those steps have been taken 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.240 to get into where he is now. But man, he 0:14:29.360 --> 0:14:32.400 still has a foundation that he has to stay strong 0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:35.160 and regards to his personality and regards to things that 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:39.480 he's dealing with internal well, that there's a very smart 0:14:39.680 --> 0:14:44.200 contract from both sides, both the player and the team 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:47.320 as far as the way this thing is structured, as 0:14:47.320 --> 0:14:49.480 far as his money that he can make before the 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:53.200 season starts. I believe, if my memory serves me right 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:57.760 on the breakdown and his contract, his reinstatement paycheck amounted 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:01.920 to around ninety thousand dollars yesterday. Thirty days from now, 0:15:01.960 --> 0:15:04.760 he gets another fifty grand and then at the beginning 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:08.200 of training camp another one hundred thousand, and then second 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:11.040 preseason game another one hundred thousand, and then another one 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:14.640 if he makes the team in September. And so, but 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.080 it's very smart the way they've done that along the 0:15:17.120 --> 0:15:19.480 lines of what you're talking about. Ever sin there as 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:23.360 he's got some financial incentives as we creep closer and 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:25.840 closer to the start of the regular season in September, 0:15:25.880 --> 0:15:30.520 where he will make obviously more money. It's packaged in 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:34.680 his deal per game incentives as well. Yeah, Bill, I'm 0:15:34.720 --> 0:15:37.600 glad you mentioned that, because you know, when everybody just 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:40.960 kind of does a cursory story and they point out 0:15:41.040 --> 0:15:44.440 that he signed a one year, four million dollar contract 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:48.880 with the Cowboys, that's somewhat misleading, And you're exactly right, 0:15:48.920 --> 0:15:52.440 there's all those steps. So the only money he's made 0:15:52.440 --> 0:15:56.960 so far was the ninety thousand yesterday when the NFL 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:02.240 conditionally reinstated him, his base salary is nine hundred and 0:16:02.240 --> 0:16:05.520 ten thousand, So basically that would be the base salary 0:16:05.560 --> 0:16:08.880 for a guy that's been in the league as long 0:16:08.920 --> 0:16:12.360 as uh, as long as he's has And then you're right, 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:15.120 it's you know, uh, if you if you go to 0:16:15.200 --> 0:16:17.520 training camp, if you last a couple of weeks in 0:16:17.600 --> 0:16:21.280 training camp, if you play a second preseason game, and 0:16:21.320 --> 0:16:26.720 then there's a per game active roster bonus forty thousand, 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:30.200 six hundred and twenty five dollars for each game, and 0:16:30.240 --> 0:16:33.520 then they're sacked bonuses too, So that's how this thing 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:37.080 ends up getting to four million dollars on a one 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:41.200 year deal. So, uh, you know, you would hope that's 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:44.840 that's one of those old contracts. Yes, it is, right, 0:16:47.400 --> 0:16:49.960 it's sort of you know what, it's sort of It 0:16:50.120 --> 0:16:52.760 sort of reminds me of my days back in the factory, 0:16:52.840 --> 0:16:55.720 working in the summers during college, where you could take 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:58.800 one of the jobs they bid on them, and then 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:02.800 there was piecemeal like the more you produce, the bigger 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:06.480 your hourly wage went up, right, And you should have 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:09.120 seen the incentive on those guys that that was their 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:12.439 full time, year round drive, and you know what they 0:17:12.520 --> 0:17:15.800 did you guys. Uh, they would loaf the first half 0:17:15.880 --> 0:17:19.000 of the day, and then after lunch they knew what 0:17:19.200 --> 0:17:22.320 they could do and they would drag us means along, 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:25.840 minions along, and they would start humping. And I'm going, 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:28.000 I don't know if this is safe. I need my 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:31.200 fingers through the rest of my career, you know what, 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:33.720 you know what it reminds me of. It reminds me 0:17:33.840 --> 0:17:36.359 and I can say this because I'm in Oklahoma grad 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:39.440 if it reminds me of those summer jobs that our 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:43.159 Sooner players had back in the day where if you 0:17:43.280 --> 0:17:46.439 show up this Friday, we'll give you one hundred thousand dollars. 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:49.280 If you show up two two weeks from now, we'll 0:17:49.320 --> 0:17:51.639 give you another fifty grand if you show up two 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:59.040 weeks after that. But out Bill, that's absolutely I'm sure 0:17:59.080 --> 0:18:02.240 they had that at Hambling too. Gun Oh yeah, Grabbling 0:18:02.320 --> 0:18:04.680 had that. Yeah, we had better grammar. Yeah, all the 0:18:04.840 --> 0:18:08.880 money we had three round that program. Yeah we had that. Hey, 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:11.320 by the way, guys, I like this, uh, this this 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:14.639 thoughts of all the smith. You know, I've been had 0:18:14.680 --> 0:18:16.280 a lot of time on my hands. You know, I've 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:19.400 been in the Little Work album upstairs. You know, I'm 0:18:19.440 --> 0:18:21.760 feeling pretty good. I think if I just kind of 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:25.960 cut this off a little bit right, maybe diet or something, 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:28.560 you might want to die it. I die it, But 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.240 that's that's may. If I die, I might be able 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:34.480 to fool somebody. I might come back at some Cuban 0:18:34.600 --> 0:18:37.320 or something and they might not know where I am. Well, 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:40.720 you know it just it just adds another uh, you know, 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:44.280 aspect to that defensive end spot because it's really one 0:18:44.359 --> 0:18:47.960 of the spots. They didn't really address it in free agency, 0:18:48.640 --> 0:18:51.880 somewhat addressed it in the draft with the fifth fifth 0:18:52.040 --> 0:18:57.439 round pick of a name, but again, from the team standpoint, 0:18:57.560 --> 0:19:00.320 the only guy with any amount of experience they could 0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:02.439 put at that right defensive in spot if they had 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:06.760 to play tomorrow was Tyrone Crawford. And we're talking about 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:12.040 a guy coming off hips both hips, yes, not just 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:17.119 one hips, plural, and did it within a you know, 0:19:17.280 --> 0:19:20.560 kind of a three month period. Now he is saying 0:19:20.680 --> 0:19:22.680 he's good to go, he'll be ready to go when 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:26.680 they do football activity. But again, he basically played like 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:29.920 five games last year and he's getting up in the 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:32.879 h I know, he's twenty nine, getting close to thirty. 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:36.800 So this kind of adds to Okay, let's see what 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:40.000 we got here. It's gonna be one of the more 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:44.040 competitive positions I think if we ever get the training camp, 0:19:44.760 --> 0:19:47.359 and who knows. You know, this made bode well for 0:19:47.520 --> 0:19:52.280 Randy Gregory getting reinstated, but has to do a lot 0:19:52.320 --> 0:19:55.480 of this has to do though, with the NFL monitoring 0:19:55.560 --> 0:19:58.280 the steps these guys are taking. And if you look 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:02.040 at Alden Smith, you know, he's been working out in 0:20:02.320 --> 0:20:07.639 LA and supposedly for the last nine months drug and 0:20:07.680 --> 0:20:11.080 alcohol free. So that's a step in the right direction, 0:20:11.119 --> 0:20:13.439 and that's what the NFL wants to see and they 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:16.520 need to see that from Randy Gregory too before they 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:21.840 let him take that next step. And to me, you know, 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:25.200 helping those guys take those steps, if you can be 0:20:25.520 --> 0:20:28.800 part of something, and you know, people sort of are, 0:20:29.280 --> 0:20:32.520 you know, depending on you, maybe this helps in whatever 0:20:32.720 --> 0:20:39.480 rehab you're going through physically, mentally, drug rehab, you know, 0:20:39.640 --> 0:20:41.760 and all that's gone through the whole bit. You know, 0:20:41.840 --> 0:20:43.960 I've got a list over here of all the things 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:47.320 that it's happened to him from twenty thirteen through twenty 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:50.600 fifteen when he was indefinitely suspended and he had some 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:54.840 problems and it looks like maybe someone finally has identified 0:20:55.960 --> 0:20:58.800 his troubles and maybe he's on the right path. But 0:20:58.880 --> 0:21:01.720 he's got to continue to do it, and Randy Gregory 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:05.160 has to show that also. Maybe you get both back. 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:08.560 But again we're talking guys that haven't played in quite 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:11.640 some time, and I don't think you can just assume 0:21:11.760 --> 0:21:14.440 that allow this guy's good to go forty plays a game. 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:18.760 But we'll see you hope the best for people like that, 0:21:19.720 --> 0:21:25.160 but again, they got to prove it. 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Get your tickets 0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:11.480 today at Dallas Cowboys dot com. Of course, yes, a 0:24:11.520 --> 0:24:14.440 couple of weeks ago regular season schedule came out, so 0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:18.080 we now know the dates of all those home games 0:24:18.119 --> 0:24:20.960 at AT and T Stadium and the regular season of course, 0:24:21.040 --> 0:24:25.359 get started the second week of the season against Matt Ryan, 0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:29.879 Mattie Ice and the Atlanta Falcon Single game tickets Dallas 0:24:29.960 --> 0:24:35.480 Cowboys dot com as Mick shots continues now and oh 0:24:35.640 --> 0:24:39.600 my trending on Twitter is Dak Prescott. And there's a 0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:45.399 report out there from that noted journalist Chris Simms that 0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:51.119 the Cowboys have offered Dak a five year, one hundred 0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:55.159 seventy five million dollars deal that will make him the 0:24:55.280 --> 0:25:01.800 highest paid quarterback ever. You know, Bill that So wait 0:25:01.880 --> 0:25:04.800 wait wait, wait, stop, stop stop. Let's go with our 0:25:05.040 --> 0:25:09.159 doctor that we have in the office today. Yes, we 0:25:09.320 --> 0:25:13.800 still got doctor Fauci here in the form of Spagnola. 0:25:13.960 --> 0:25:17.760 So doctor doctor Fauci, could just please tell us what's 0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:20.840 really happening here, please, So what's what's the prognosis on 0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:25.480 this that contract? So if my math is correct, and 0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:28.080 Bill you went to Oklahoma, you can back me up here. 0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:32.320 Five years, one hundred and seventy five million. I believe 0:25:32.400 --> 0:25:37.719 that comes out to thirty five million a year, correct, yes, correct, okay, 0:25:37.760 --> 0:25:42.880 And I think Russell Wilson what he averaged on his extension, 0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:46.399 but remember he had a year left on his old 0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:50.159 salary that reduced the average. But the four year extension 0:25:51.000 --> 0:25:56.000 came to thirty four or something. My understanding of what 0:25:56.240 --> 0:26:00.879 the offer was it was maybe a half million less 0:26:01.280 --> 0:26:06.720 than what Russell Wilson extension average, So this is probably 0:26:07.680 --> 0:26:14.600 in the ballpark. And the other part of the equation 0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:21.159 was the signing bonus was upwards in the vicinity of 0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:27.160 fifty million dollars fifty so on a five year deal. 0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:30.440 And you know, we kept using that number as to 0:26:30.560 --> 0:26:33.200 show what happens if you sign a long term deal. 0:26:33.600 --> 0:26:36.480 And I always threw out, well, if it's fifty million, 0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:39.560 just for math purposes, you divide it by five, and 0:26:39.680 --> 0:26:42.640 the pro rations ten million a year on the salary count, 0:26:42.960 --> 0:26:45.320 and that first year, you know, if you give him 0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:48.400 fifty million dollars tomorrow, you know he doesn't need more 0:26:48.480 --> 0:26:52.560 than a five million dollars base salary that rookie year. 0:26:52.920 --> 0:26:56.159 You would cut that franchise tag in half of what 0:26:56.359 --> 0:27:01.800 he would cost for this year. So yeah, and again, 0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:04.240 and I think the one things that we've talked about 0:27:04.320 --> 0:27:10.159 in this show about the proposals were, you know, we 0:27:10.320 --> 0:27:13.240 kept saying, well, we kind of got an idea what 0:27:13.400 --> 0:27:16.560 the cowboys are offering. We don't know what the other 0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:20.160 side is asking for. And I think for an example, 0:27:20.320 --> 0:27:22.640 just to throw it out there, I would say, well, 0:27:23.080 --> 0:27:25.399 what if it was forty million a year, Will you 0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:29.760 do that? And so yeah, So you know, this gives 0:27:29.800 --> 0:27:33.840 you some basis for, you know, keep people keep asking 0:27:33.920 --> 0:27:35.600 why didn't it done? They just need to pay them. 0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:40.679 This is embarrassing. He's your franchise quarterback. Well, okay, fine, 0:27:41.480 --> 0:27:43.680 but this is not just a one year deal. You 0:27:43.800 --> 0:27:46.080 have to spread this out over the life of the 0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:49.800 contract with the assumption that the salary CAP's going to 0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:52.600 go up. It might not go up next year. It 0:27:52.800 --> 0:27:55.840 might go down if we don't have one hundred percent 0:27:56.280 --> 0:28:00.840 fan participation during this season. So you kind of get 0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:03.440 an idea. The other thing build that I saw, Everson, 0:28:04.320 --> 0:28:07.480 was that I saw where there was there was fourteen 0:28:07.720 --> 0:28:12.840 players franchised. There are still six that haven't either signed 0:28:12.960 --> 0:28:17.879 the franchise tag or of a long term extension. And 0:28:18.000 --> 0:28:21.200 that includes Dak Prescott. So he's not the only one 0:28:21.240 --> 0:28:25.880 out there, but he's the only one we hear about constantly, 0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:29.720 at least once a week. Well, you know, I think 0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:33.399 the issue to me with this whole thing, you're talking 0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:39.320 about social media. You're talking about the impatience of not 0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:43.040 just the NFL but the fans themselves. In regards to 0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:48.040 Corona and now we have our own little in house problem. 0:28:48.400 --> 0:28:51.920 We're trying to get out of quarterback signed. Now, if 0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:54.040 I'm going to look at this from an only standpoint, 0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:56.600 I'm thinking, I want to get this done as quickly 0:28:56.640 --> 0:28:59.440 as possible. I want to get this out of the way. Now. 0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:02.200 If you look at it from that Prescott standpoint, obviously 0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:06.040 they are in no hurry to do anything. You know, 0:29:06.160 --> 0:29:07.840 you can sit up here and play with numbers like 0:29:07.960 --> 0:29:10.360 that all you want, Stags when it all comes down 0:29:10.440 --> 0:29:14.760 to it, come on right, you know you're you're I 0:29:14.840 --> 0:29:18.760 would say nitpicking, But I'm not the guy that's looking 0:29:18.840 --> 0:29:22.240 at playing with ten million dollars, you know, or less, 0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:26.680 depending on how the contract is stated. And so from 0:29:26.720 --> 0:29:28.800 a fan standpoint, I want this to hurry up and 0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.720 get done. You know, from a former players standpoint and 0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:36.040 a union rep you have a player that's taking a 0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:39.480 look at every aspect of this contract to make sure 0:29:39.520 --> 0:29:42.720 that everything's tied down well. His representatives are doing the 0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:46.280 same thing. And when it's all said and done, I 0:29:46.520 --> 0:29:52.720 think Dad is looking at what potential contracts are gonna 0:29:52.800 --> 0:29:57.240 come after his from people in the same position such 0:29:57.240 --> 0:30:01.120 as and I think mainly Patrick Omes is the one 0:30:01.160 --> 0:30:03.120 guy that he's looking at. I think he wants to 0:30:03.240 --> 0:30:08.160 make sure that whatever Homes Mahomes does that it doesn't 0:30:08.240 --> 0:30:10.680 lead that too far in his way. So I think 0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:14.360 that's a prior thing in regards to which quarterback is 0:30:14.400 --> 0:30:16.880 going to get paid the most. I'm the oldest, I've 0:30:16.880 --> 0:30:18.960 been doing it longer. Yes, you got the Super Bowl, 0:30:19.080 --> 0:30:22.160 that's great, but my numbers are out here. And Mahomes 0:30:22.240 --> 0:30:25.280 could say the same thing. He has his own stats 0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:28.760 and accomplishments that he could put in there. But I 0:30:28.960 --> 0:30:31.840 think as a from from player, from a player's standpoint, 0:30:32.120 --> 0:30:34.960 I think Dak is making sure that whatever happens when 0:30:35.000 --> 0:30:37.240 this is all said and done, he doesn't want to 0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:42.320 be underpaid. When Patrick Mahomes and other quarterbacks come up 0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:44.720 for their time to sign, yeah, you know, and I 0:30:44.920 --> 0:30:48.200 understand this. And from an agent standpoint, they want to 0:30:48.280 --> 0:30:51.200 do the best they can for their client, but also 0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:54.640 there themselves, right so they can go out there and say, hey, look, 0:30:54.680 --> 0:30:58.360 with my agency, got Dak Prescott, I get the game. 0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:02.760 And if you don't ask for forty, you know, maybe 0:31:02.800 --> 0:31:05.520 you don't get thirty five because if you ask for 0:31:05.640 --> 0:31:08.560 thirty five, they may say thirty three. So I mean, 0:31:08.640 --> 0:31:12.400 I understand how the negotiations go, and you know, and 0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:16.160 as things are going right now, he's not missing anything, 0:31:17.480 --> 0:31:21.720 so you know this will continue until there's a deadline, 0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:25.240 which is July fifteenth, where you got to either do 0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:29.240 the long term deal or say, okay, I'm very bold, 0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:32.000 I'll play on the franchise tag for thirty one point 0:31:32.080 --> 0:31:35.240 four million. And I'm sure the way they're looking at it, 0:31:35.560 --> 0:31:39.320 if you franchise this year and next year, he would 0:31:39.360 --> 0:31:43.320 total sixty nine million dollars. So when you structure the contract, 0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:46.040 I'm sure they're looking at it and say, okay, for 0:31:46.160 --> 0:31:51.360 two years, I gotta in cash, make sixty nine million dollars. 0:31:51.720 --> 0:31:55.240 And again, you know, you hear these numbers. He's asking 0:31:55.360 --> 0:31:59.360 for forty Okay, fine, but what's the guarantee, because that's 0:31:59.400 --> 0:32:02.560 the important thing. The guarantee is what it's all about. 0:32:02.920 --> 0:32:06.520 And I think on Russell Wilson's contract on the extension, 0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:11.080 the guarantee was one hundred and seven million dollars, which 0:32:11.200 --> 0:32:14.360 is far less than thirty four million a year, So 0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:17.440 that's the important number. We can hear these big numbers, 0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:20.720 that's fine, but there's always some sort of phony money 0:32:20.760 --> 0:32:23.680 in the last couple of years that the team can 0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:27.200 get out of and not pay these exorbitant base salaries 0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:29.800 if they want to. And I'm gonna throw this at you, 0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.680 guys decide. And I ain't saying it's accurate or what. 0:32:33.280 --> 0:32:37.720 But every year, and I kind of back in the day, 0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:41.760 got to know Pete Prisco CBS Sports. Every year he 0:32:41.840 --> 0:32:45.440 comes out with his top one hundred rankings of players, 0:32:46.200 --> 0:32:49.600 and I love the way he kind of puts it 0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:52.760 out there. It's like, Okay, have at it. You know, 0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:56.080 this is my opinion. If yours is different, fine, I'm 0:32:56.120 --> 0:33:00.880 not saying I'm accurate. But on his list, Dak Prescott 0:33:01.160 --> 0:33:05.280 was the forty sixth ranked player. Right or wrong, that's 0:33:05.320 --> 0:33:10.240 one man's opinion. Uh so again, Uh, you know, this 0:33:10.400 --> 0:33:14.160 will continue to go a week by week and we'll 0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:17.160 see if there's an end, but I've guarantee you by 0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:21.000 July fifteenth, we'll know something for sure. I have got 0:33:21.120 --> 0:33:24.080 to see that list. I've got to see that list. 0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:30.080 Forty eight, forty six, Yeah, forty six. Wow, quarterbacks are 0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:32.400 ahead of me. Yeah, you know I didn't count that. 0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:37.640 Zeke was seventeenth. He was the second running back. Uh. 0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:46.360 McCaffrey was first. I think he was uh number five, yes, wow, 0:33:46.920 --> 0:33:49.920 and uh so yeah there was uh and I just 0:33:50.080 --> 0:33:54.480 kind of look, so there was there was six quarterbacks 0:33:55.160 --> 0:34:00.720 in the in the top twenty, okay, and six and 0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:05.200 six defensive vans slash outside linebackers sort of pass rushers. 0:34:05.440 --> 0:34:08.040 So that was twelve of the twenty at those two positions. 0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:15.000 The other thing about the reports about the Dak contract is, 0:34:15.480 --> 0:34:18.680 obviously this has been reported on over the course of 0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:22.319 the last few months, that Dak wants a shorter contract. 0:34:22.760 --> 0:34:27.360 Cowboys went a longer contract, and the what Chris Simms 0:34:27.719 --> 0:34:31.000 is saying is that he wants a four year year deal. 0:34:31.080 --> 0:34:33.480 If they agree to a five year deal, they would 0:34:33.560 --> 0:34:35.600 like a really big number at the end of that 0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:39.040 fifth year to cover them for what the market might 0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:42.040 be at the position five years from now. And there's 0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:46.280 reports that that big number might be north of forty 0:34:46.320 --> 0:34:48.759 five million dollars in that fifth year. And you would 0:34:48.800 --> 0:34:52.560 assume you talk about guarantees in the contract, that you 0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:56.480 would assume that the agent is also wanting that to 0:34:56.600 --> 0:35:02.480 be pretty much pretty much a well close to being guaranteed. Usually, 0:35:02.800 --> 0:35:06.359 if you have a these NFL contracts, if you've got 0:35:06.440 --> 0:35:08.520 that kind of money in the last year of a 0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:12.760 contract and it's he's never seen that money. Yeah, exactly. 0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:14.840 And think about it. If I give him fifty million 0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:20.000 in a base salary, which is guaranteed, and if the 0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:22.920 total amount was one hundred and seventy five, well, now 0:35:22.960 --> 0:35:26.799 we got one hundred and twenty five million if that's 0:35:26.840 --> 0:35:29.440 what they're asking for, And that's what they get, one 0:35:29.560 --> 0:35:33.200 hundred and twenty five million divided by five for base 0:35:33.280 --> 0:35:37.440 salaries if they were equal, which is twenty five million 0:35:37.520 --> 0:35:40.959 a year plus the ten million on the pro ration. 0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:43.680 And you're talking about the quarterback taking up thirty five 0:35:43.800 --> 0:35:46.359 at an average of thirty five million a year over 0:35:46.440 --> 0:35:52.120 the five years. You know, I'm so surprised that Little 0:35:52.160 --> 0:35:55.600 Sales was able to get this information. I mean, Spags, 0:35:55.640 --> 0:35:59.080 you and Jerry must not be meeting regularly like you guys. Yeah, 0:36:00.600 --> 0:36:04.440 you got it wrong. He must have. He must have 0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:07.759 an end with the agent. Okay, you need to come 0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:09.880 back to the yacht and see what's going on. Man, 0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:14.600 you and Jerry need to resume your meetings. This just 0:36:14.760 --> 0:36:19.360 reminded me of Super Bowl last year in Atlanta. I 0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:25.080 was there and Dak did a media availability and the 0:36:25.160 --> 0:36:27.640 local media was there. In national media there as well. 0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:32.279 It was a Sleep the Company endorsement. He's got whatever 0:36:32.360 --> 0:36:36.960 that is. But anyway, Chris Simms was there, and so 0:36:37.040 --> 0:36:39.479 I was just sitting here thinking about this. Well, Dak 0:36:39.560 --> 0:36:42.239 and Chris Simms, they must be tight, you know, they're 0:36:42.280 --> 0:36:45.319 in that quarterback club together, I guess, And so maybe 0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:48.640 Chris is getting that information from Dak. There's a funny 0:36:48.719 --> 0:36:52.520 little story, all right. Chris Simms does his interview with 0:36:52.760 --> 0:36:55.560 Dak off to the side, and then Dak came to 0:36:55.719 --> 0:37:01.000 the Dallas Fort Worth Media and Dak says to us, 0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:09.520 who is that? Not so unless they've gotten really close 0:37:09.640 --> 0:37:13.600 together here in the last fifteen months or so, I 0:37:13.680 --> 0:37:16.680 don't know that they were. I know they weren't very 0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:25.600 close fifteen months ago. 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As we talked about off 0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:02.360 the top of the show, the Star in Fresco and 0:42:02.480 --> 0:42:06.759 other NFL facilities are open on a limited basis right now. 0:42:06.960 --> 0:42:09.640 As you saw, Jerry Jones was back at work for 0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:13.920 the virtual owners meeting he did from the Star on Tuesday. 0:42:14.160 --> 0:42:17.480 Only a certain percentage of employees can be in the building. 0:42:17.560 --> 0:42:21.560 Coaches can't be there yet, and players as a whole 0:42:21.640 --> 0:42:26.520 cannot be there. Only injured players rehabbing from injuries or 0:42:26.680 --> 0:42:31.759 surgeries can be there. And Mickey about we talk about injuries, 0:42:32.040 --> 0:42:35.040 and I'm wondering if Mickey Spagnola can return to the 0:42:35.160 --> 0:42:41.280 Star for rehab. Well, I need to get special dispensation 0:42:41.400 --> 0:42:45.080 to be able to go in the building. But rehab 0:42:45.560 --> 0:42:48.640 will be in my future. And one of the reasons 0:42:48.719 --> 0:42:51.960 you see me with a blank background instead of my 0:42:52.040 --> 0:42:56.080 Wheati's box behind me and my dartboard was because those 0:42:56.200 --> 0:42:59.920 are upstairs at my house and I can't go up 0:43:00.040 --> 0:43:05.360 the stairs. On May third, at the almost conclusion of 0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:10.719 my two hour bike ride, I tried to cross four 0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:14.600 lane highway to get to where the sidewalk was so 0:43:14.719 --> 0:43:19.600 I could be safe. And I cleared three of the lanes, 0:43:19.880 --> 0:43:23.759 and the red lights that were all on in both directions. Well, 0:43:23.920 --> 0:43:26.400 the one that I was trying to cross turned green 0:43:26.880 --> 0:43:30.440 and there was a truck pickup truck there in the 0:43:30.600 --> 0:43:34.360 last lane, and he started without seeing me, and I 0:43:34.480 --> 0:43:38.200 got broadsided on my bike kind of went flying a 0:43:38.239 --> 0:43:41.160 little bit, and my foot did not come out of 0:43:41.239 --> 0:43:46.480 the bike pedal stirrup, and I kind of knew, you guys, 0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:50.080 what was wrong when I felt the pain behind my 0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:55.560 left leg and I was in denial, but my sports 0:43:55.719 --> 0:44:01.160 writing medical training taught me that there was something wrong 0:44:01.280 --> 0:44:04.719 with my achilles tendon. And I waited a couple of 0:44:04.800 --> 0:44:10.160 days and called doctor Cooper, who got me in to 0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:15.799 the Carol Clinic. He's the Cowboys orthopedic surgeon and all 0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:17.719 he had to do was touch the back of my 0:44:17.840 --> 0:44:21.520 leg one time, and he confirmed my biggest fears that 0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:25.880 I had torn my achilles and a week ago Monday, 0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:30.640 I had surgery and it was the first surgery I've 0:44:30.680 --> 0:44:35.320 ever had, and all of a sudden, all of a sudden, 0:44:35.760 --> 0:44:38.920 it just kind of hit me those days leading up 0:44:38.960 --> 0:44:42.880 to it, what these athletes, the Cowboys, players, all the 0:44:43.000 --> 0:44:46.160 guys that have to have surgeries must go through, not 0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:50.880 just from a physical standpoint, but from a mental stamp point, 0:44:51.320 --> 0:44:56.360 because suddenly you're in the hands of the anesthesiologists and 0:44:56.520 --> 0:45:00.719 while these guys are really good and the surgeons really good, 0:45:01.400 --> 0:45:05.239 you're still at their mercy. And boy, from a from 0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:09.200 a metal standpoint, you just can't get over it. You 0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:12.560 just can't get through it. And it made me think 0:45:12.719 --> 0:45:16.320 that and Everson, you can talk about this. Uh, you know, 0:45:16.480 --> 0:45:20.600 we treat player injuries and surgeries like wow, right to 0:45:20.640 --> 0:45:22.759 put a band aid on it, you know, spit on it, 0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:25.680 and no big deal surgery. Surgery You got to do 0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:27.800 it to repair an ACL you got to do it 0:45:28.120 --> 0:45:34.200 to repair a torn laboring or a rotator cuff. But boy, 0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:38.320 I'll tell you what, surgery is no joke. And it 0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:42.600 gave me a new appreciation for these guys what they 0:45:42.760 --> 0:45:47.239 have to do to continue their career and get back 0:45:48.000 --> 0:45:52.680 on the field, and for me, the torn achilles could 0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:55.880 be one of the worst injuries to rehab. This is 0:45:55.920 --> 0:45:59.040 going to be a long haul and probably next time 0:45:59.120 --> 0:46:02.360 you guys actually see me in person, you'll see me 0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:05.680 on one of those kneel down scooters paddling my way 0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:09.439 along in the hallways because I've got a big old 0:46:09.719 --> 0:46:11.759 walking boot on and I've got to be in it 0:46:12.400 --> 0:46:15.719 for quite a while to make sure that the technique 0:46:15.760 --> 0:46:19.440 they used to put the ten the achilles tending back 0:46:19.520 --> 0:46:25.319 together doesn't get stretched out before it reattaches itself. So yeah, 0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:30.520 and Everson, I know you went through the surgery when 0:46:30.560 --> 0:46:33.439 you donated the kidney back in two thousand and seven 0:46:33.520 --> 0:46:37.840 in my right to donate it to Ron Springs, And 0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:42.240 had you had surgeries before that, never had had surgery before. 0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:45.160 That was really blessed. I think you and I were 0:46:45.239 --> 0:46:46.919 count of a light. We were both trying to stay 0:46:46.920 --> 0:46:49.840 out of the phrase fads as much as possible. I 0:46:50.000 --> 0:46:52.360 wasn't trying to get my head off in as and 0:46:52.840 --> 0:46:56.920 have some surgery. But have you played on thirteen fourteen 0:46:57.040 --> 0:47:03.720 years out thirteen years no surgery? The achilles is also 0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:07.040 my biggest fear I would imagine from any athlete you 0:47:07.160 --> 0:47:09.839 have to think about Kevin Durand and just was an 0:47:09.840 --> 0:47:12.719 amazing athlete that he is to be able to come 0:47:12.800 --> 0:47:15.880 back so far, you know, from from what he went 0:47:15.960 --> 0:47:20.319 through a last year. Uh. You know, we think about surgeries, 0:47:20.360 --> 0:47:23.920 and I always think about running backs, you know, whenever 0:47:23.960 --> 0:47:26.080 we think about surgeries, because they're always getting hit on 0:47:26.160 --> 0:47:30.160 their knees and their legs and their ankles, and now 0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:33.360 you take away their livelihood, like like we did with 0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:38.680 Tony Dorset. He leaves the Cowboys after they brought in 0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:41.520 herschel Walker, which I thought was one of the craziest 0:47:41.600 --> 0:47:45.240 moves I ever made in Cowboy history. He goes to Denver, 0:47:45.960 --> 0:47:50.520 of all places, and here he tore his ACL. If 0:47:50.560 --> 0:47:54.719 I recall while in Denver, Well, we look at that 0:47:54.880 --> 0:47:56.440 and I think he was on the back end of 0:47:56.719 --> 0:47:58.839 his career. He was over thirty plus years old at 0:47:58.880 --> 0:48:02.560 the time, and for a running back, that's old. And 0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:07.320 Dorsett was able to gain close to a thousand yards 0:48:08.000 --> 0:48:13.480 post ACL surgery. I thought that was just amazing how 0:48:13.520 --> 0:48:17.080 we did that. We don't, you know, we shouldn't take 0:48:17.160 --> 0:48:19.960 these surgeries for granted. Of course, just you and you 0:48:20.080 --> 0:48:23.440 and I lay people right now. It's hard enough because 0:48:23.480 --> 0:48:26.160 we have nothing to get back to. These guys are 0:48:26.239 --> 0:48:29.080 on a schedule and they have a legacy that they 0:48:29.200 --> 0:48:33.640 want to extend. And so when you think about trying 0:48:33.680 --> 0:48:36.200 to come back from something like that, the urgency that 0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:41.279 they that they feel after probably right after surgery, when 0:48:41.280 --> 0:48:44.120 they're just feeling just helpless. You know, I can't do 0:48:44.200 --> 0:48:46.800 anything right now. I pulled the muscle one time and 0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:48.719 I felt like they should shoot me like a horse, 0:48:49.160 --> 0:48:51.520 you know what I mean. So you've got these guys 0:48:51.960 --> 0:48:54.440 with bones that are trying to heal, muscles that are 0:48:54.480 --> 0:48:56.959 trying to heal, and they've got to get back into 0:48:57.000 --> 0:48:59.160 the fray and be as good as they were before 0:48:59.200 --> 0:49:02.640 they left. And that that kind of pressure. That's something 0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:05.520 that we take for granted as fans, but it shouldn't 0:49:05.520 --> 0:49:08.239 be taken for granted at all. Yeah, And if you 0:49:08.320 --> 0:49:10.160 think about it, and I was trying to count up 0:49:10.239 --> 0:49:14.000 and buy my count. You know, from the start of 0:49:14.200 --> 0:49:17.279 training camp last year to around now, you know, the 0:49:17.360 --> 0:49:21.600 Cowboys have had at least a dozen surgeries, and you 0:49:21.640 --> 0:49:23.640 know a lot of these, you know, you're you're talking 0:49:23.680 --> 0:49:26.040 about what can you get back in time for the offseason? 0:49:26.400 --> 0:49:29.960 Could you back in time for preseason or the regular season, 0:49:31.120 --> 0:49:34.600 and these guys have to work awfully hard every day. 0:49:34.640 --> 0:49:38.520 And that's why, you know, Bill mentioned what facilities being 0:49:38.600 --> 0:49:42.160 closed to the coaches and players except for the guys 0:49:42.239 --> 0:49:45.160 do and rehab, except for the guys coming back from 0:49:45.200 --> 0:49:48.480 surgerboys or injuries that they've got to work on day 0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:52.920 in and day out. And I was told, and I 0:49:53.160 --> 0:49:57.960 was reminded several times that look, you know, your livelihood 0:49:58.040 --> 0:50:01.200 doesn't depend on you being back for the offseason in 0:50:01.400 --> 0:50:04.080 twenty twenty one, So you got to take your time 0:50:04.120 --> 0:50:07.440 and not rush this because this is a real serious injury. 0:50:07.760 --> 0:50:11.560 And if you try to get back too soon, you know, 0:50:11.800 --> 0:50:14.600 you could ruin the surgery and you'll be limping for 0:50:14.680 --> 0:50:16.239 the rest of your life. And you know, and when 0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:19.160 I asked, uh, you know, is there an alternative the 0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:23.520 surgery and the foot specialist at the Carol Clinic told 0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:27.640 me doctor Curry, he said, yeah, there's there's an alternative. 0:50:27.680 --> 0:50:30.080 I can put you in a boot for two months 0:50:30.160 --> 0:50:33.680 and the tendon will kind of reattach itself, but you'll 0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:35.640 limp for the rest of your life and you'll never 0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:39.960 do anything again athletically. And I was like, you know what, 0:50:40.280 --> 0:50:42.719 I don't think I have a choice. Let's go, and 0:50:43.400 --> 0:50:46.400 so here I am. I'm my scooter and my boot. 0:50:46.480 --> 0:50:51.080 And it was hard to talk about it. First, What 0:50:51.160 --> 0:50:54.480 are you doing riding your bike for two hours? Stags? 0:50:54.600 --> 0:50:58.279 That's the problem. You're boding too long. Now you're you're 0:50:58.480 --> 0:51:06.320 exhausted trying to sneak across a ten learning highway and 0:51:06.520 --> 0:51:09.960 you and you'd surprised you didn't make it. Okay, you 0:51:10.040 --> 0:51:12.760 only have twenty seconds and you can see the count 0:51:13.040 --> 0:51:16.520 it's counting for you was counting down. What are you 0:51:16.840 --> 0:51:20.840 His life is counting down The first time, I figured 0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:24.239 all I needed was five seconds, right, But you know, 0:51:24.400 --> 0:51:27.440 you're very places to go. They don't have time to 0:51:27.520 --> 0:51:31.839 wait on some old doctor fauci to cross the street. Man. 0:51:32.520 --> 0:51:34.680 You know, you know why I did, And you're right, 0:51:34.760 --> 0:51:37.920 because I was so anxious to get home. I had rode. 0:51:38.160 --> 0:51:41.279 I rode way too long and it was like I 0:51:41.400 --> 0:51:43.920 just gotta get back, and it's like, okay, I can 0:51:44.040 --> 0:51:45.800 make this. You know. On the other thing you do 0:51:45.960 --> 0:51:49.319 is you beat yourself up because there's all these little 0:51:49.400 --> 0:51:52.120 decisions you made along the way. Oh, I could have 0:51:52.160 --> 0:51:54.320 gone this way, I could have waited, I could have 0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:56.880 gone that way. What if I hadn't stopped here to 0:51:57.000 --> 0:52:00.520 drink water? Uh? And it just it drives you crazy 0:52:01.120 --> 0:52:03.040 and uh and then you have to just sit there 0:52:03.040 --> 0:52:06.160 and accept it and go, okay, let's make the best 0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:09.440 of it. So, you know, working back right now, not 0:52:09.640 --> 0:52:12.600 all that bad. Now. Now you found out what it 0:52:12.680 --> 0:52:16.319 feels like to be hit. Oh man, you found You've 0:52:16.360 --> 0:52:19.480 been writing about it all this time. Now you can 0:52:19.600 --> 0:52:22.080 say I know what it's like to be hit by 0:52:22.239 --> 0:52:25.600 somebody like Zach Martin. You know, it reminded me of 0:52:25.800 --> 0:52:28.840 and I can't remember which running back it was, and 0:52:28.960 --> 0:52:31.800 it might have been Emmett. He was talking about getting 0:52:31.880 --> 0:52:34.480 tackled and he goes, yeah, just think about if I 0:52:34.600 --> 0:52:38.759 carried the ball twenty times. It's almost like I got 0:52:38.840 --> 0:52:43.279 in twenty car accidents, the impact of the hits from 0:52:43.360 --> 0:52:47.080 these guys. And you know what, He's pretty right, Yeah, 0:52:47.120 --> 0:52:50.680 it is. It is. Now you can say you're right. Now, 0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:53.960 I know why cornerbacks make business decisions out there. We 0:52:54.200 --> 0:52:58.320 made business decisions bad. Okay, you can not make a 0:52:58.360 --> 0:53:02.279 good business. Oh I did so. So Mickey, what's your 0:53:02.440 --> 0:53:08.440 what's your prognosis for Oxnard? Well, if if we go, 0:53:09.360 --> 0:53:12.080 I would imagine my little scooters coming along with me. 0:53:13.120 --> 0:53:16.239 I kind of pointed out too. When I first told 0:53:16.280 --> 0:53:18.839 the guys at work, you know what happened, I said, well, 0:53:18.880 --> 0:53:22.840 I'm going to be this year's uh Sanjay Lyle Kyle 0:53:23.560 --> 0:53:27.680 Kyle Valero. Both guys had foot injuries last year and 0:53:27.920 --> 0:53:31.839 ended up, if you remember, during practice on their little 0:53:31.920 --> 0:53:34.799 pedal scooters, which they don't I'm told don't work real 0:53:34.920 --> 0:53:38.000 great in the grass. But I've got to stay off 0:53:38.239 --> 0:53:41.080 as much as I can. So no pup for you. 0:53:42.400 --> 0:53:48.640 Uh No, maybe not as much standing on the sideline, 0:53:48.760 --> 0:53:51.759 but I can still write, you know. That was that 0:53:51.920 --> 0:53:55.400 was the weird thing. I didn't break and God bless it, 0:53:55.840 --> 0:53:57.920 I didn't break a bone and I didn't hit my 0:53:58.040 --> 0:54:02.920 head because the emergency unit got there. The biggest thing 0:54:02.960 --> 0:54:05.320 they were worried about is if I knew who I was, 0:54:05.480 --> 0:54:08.440 where I was, where I was going, where I lived. 0:54:08.480 --> 0:54:10.640 And I said, they said, did you hit your head? 0:54:10.760 --> 0:54:14.719 And I go by some miraculous happening, uh no, And 0:54:14.800 --> 0:54:16.759 they looked at my helmet and they go, hey, a 0:54:16.840 --> 0:54:19.320 scratch on there. And it's like, God bless it, because 0:54:20.040 --> 0:54:22.759 that's the thing that they most worry about. When something 0:54:22.840 --> 0:54:26.200 like that happens. Good. Well, I think it's I think 0:54:26.280 --> 0:54:31.080 it's evident to those of listening and responding on social 0:54:31.160 --> 0:54:33.640 media that you did not have a head injury because 0:54:33.719 --> 0:54:36.160 you're you're still talking the same way you did before, 0:54:36.600 --> 0:54:39.359 still not making any sense. Right, I didn't knock any 0:54:39.440 --> 0:54:43.359 sense into you. It didn't any sense. You're so right, 0:54:43.480 --> 0:54:48.480 he's still hopless, he's still open. Was the What was 0:54:48.520 --> 0:54:51.440 the line? Somebody I had a head scan and and 0:54:51.560 --> 0:54:54.520 they said, yeah, sure enough, they still found there was 0:54:54.600 --> 0:55:00.040 nothing in there. All right? What about the other the 0:55:00.200 --> 0:55:03.839 injuries from the for the Cowboys players this offseason? You've 0:55:03.840 --> 0:55:08.280 alluded to some of them like Tyrone Crawford would double 0:55:08.360 --> 0:55:12.560 a hip surgery from last year, Connor Williams acl yeah, 0:55:13.320 --> 0:55:17.640 Anthony Brown actually at triceps injury that he had repaired, 0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:23.400 Antoine Woods a postseason hip surgery. Um, how extensive was his? 0:55:23.600 --> 0:55:26.320 I mean they just say hip surgery. What are we 0:55:26.400 --> 0:55:28.759 done talking about here? With Ann? You know? His was 0:55:29.040 --> 0:55:31.239 his was more of just the clean up of the 0:55:31.560 --> 0:55:34.560 of the labram And last time I saw him at 0:55:34.680 --> 0:55:37.760 the at the Star, you know, he was doing rehab 0:55:38.320 --> 0:55:40.759 and he was he was walking on his own now, 0:55:40.840 --> 0:55:43.520 So he said he was getting better and felt like 0:55:43.680 --> 0:55:46.000 he'd be ready to go in May when they started. 0:55:46.440 --> 0:55:49.680 Uh OTAs you know, the one surgery that you know 0:55:49.719 --> 0:55:54.000 it was pretty serious was Layton Vandersch And that's the 0:55:54.040 --> 0:55:56.560 other one. Yeah, Layton, he had neck surgery, you know. 0:55:56.680 --> 0:56:01.239 And I kept reading that it was a normally invasive 0:56:01.920 --> 0:56:04.600 neck surgery, and I'm going, you know what, there is 0:56:04.760 --> 0:56:08.440 no exactly And that's another thing. I you know, the 0:56:08.680 --> 0:56:12.160 the the these minor surgeries that we're told about, they're 0:56:12.200 --> 0:56:15.760 only minor when there's somebody else's right. Mine was major 0:56:16.120 --> 0:56:20.759 hi and tar and and and so you know, and 0:56:20.880 --> 0:56:23.880 what he had done was significant because he had a 0:56:24.080 --> 0:56:28.400 ruptured disc in his cervical in the neck here. And 0:56:28.920 --> 0:56:31.640 what they do is they take out the ruptured disc 0:56:31.760 --> 0:56:36.120 and they fuse the vertebrae together. Uh. And you know 0:56:36.440 --> 0:56:39.120 guys have had that and they've come back and played. 0:56:39.200 --> 0:56:43.040 Darryl Johnston had it. He came back and played uh 0:56:43.200 --> 0:56:47.399 and you know, and played fullback. But that that's that again, 0:56:47.560 --> 0:56:53.600 that's no joke. When they're messing us is yeah, absolutely 0:56:53.800 --> 0:56:56.600 so uh my understanding. And you know, and he spoke 0:56:56.640 --> 0:56:59.879 about it, I think on a national broadcast either first 0:57:00.160 --> 0:57:02.759 this week or late last week about he's ready to 0:57:02.840 --> 0:57:04.759 go and he should be able to do whatever they 0:57:04.800 --> 0:57:07.120 ask him to do whenever they get back on the 0:57:07.640 --> 0:57:11.440 field for football stuff. But boy, you know that's serious. 0:57:11.880 --> 0:57:15.480 And I have been concerned about that surgery, you know, 0:57:15.520 --> 0:57:17.760 I mean the minute you brought it up. Anytime you're 0:57:17.800 --> 0:57:20.120 dealing with the neck area, and it's not just the surgery, 0:57:20.200 --> 0:57:24.800 stags and Bill, it's it's the rehab afterwards, and also 0:57:25.320 --> 0:57:29.960 the ensuing contact. Okay, over and over again, you're going 0:57:30.000 --> 0:57:32.680 to right back to where you were. And I'm sure 0:57:32.720 --> 0:57:38.160 that you know not all surgeries weaken that particular part 0:57:38.200 --> 0:57:41.480 of the body that's been operated on. But you gotta 0:57:41.600 --> 0:57:45.280 wonder how many more hits you can take when you're 0:57:45.320 --> 0:57:49.040 talking about that procedure of taking something out and whatever 0:57:49.120 --> 0:57:53.160 they're doing with it. That is some very serious stuff. 0:57:53.240 --> 0:57:55.880 And when you're talking about his position, you're talking about 0:57:55.880 --> 0:57:57.560 the horse collar they he loves to wear. There's a 0:57:57.640 --> 0:58:00.800 reason for that protection, but that doesn't always protect you 0:58:00.960 --> 0:58:04.520 because this game goes one hundred miles an hour and 0:58:05.040 --> 0:58:09.040 Vanderesh is not shying from any contact, and neither is 0:58:09.040 --> 0:58:12.760 the person that he's going again, So It always worries me, 0:58:13.360 --> 0:58:16.880 especially that part of the body. So if he feels 0:58:16.920 --> 0:58:20.680 comfortable with it, that's great. But I man, that's a 0:58:20.760 --> 0:58:22.560 tough one that if there was my son, that'd be 0:58:22.600 --> 0:58:25.960 a tough call, no matter how minimally invasive that surgery 0:58:26.520 --> 0:58:28.320 would have been. And you know, when you think about 0:58:28.440 --> 0:58:31.960 what Randy White has gone through, and he had the 0:58:32.040 --> 0:58:35.040 problems with his neck, and you know, and he's pretty 0:58:35.760 --> 0:58:41.479 his neck doesn't Randy White cannot turn around. Randy White 0:58:41.560 --> 0:58:45.480 cannot look up in the sky. Think about how odd 0:58:45.560 --> 0:58:49.960 that is. He cannot look up in the sky if 0:58:50.360 --> 0:58:54.160 something was passing overhead. It's impossible. And that is not 0:58:55.000 --> 0:58:57.440 something that I would look forward to as a young man. 0:58:57.680 --> 0:59:00.960 And if you think about him and how tough he is, 0:59:01.440 --> 0:59:05.040 was you know, he wanted to come back and play 0:59:05.120 --> 0:59:08.320 him at eighty nine season uh, And you know he 0:59:08.480 --> 0:59:10.720 had to be told, you know what, you're a little 0:59:10.880 --> 0:59:14.240 up in age and we're probably gonna move on. But 0:59:14.480 --> 0:59:17.120 had they not told him that, he and he knows 0:59:17.240 --> 0:59:19.640 that was the right thing to do. But had they 0:59:19.760 --> 0:59:21.520 not told him that, he would have tried to come 0:59:21.560 --> 0:59:23.640 back and play him. Of course he would. But that's 0:59:23.640 --> 0:59:25.720 because that's just the way you feel. You don't really 0:59:25.920 --> 0:59:28.880 understand what's going on back there. All you know is 0:59:29.040 --> 0:59:31.720 you can still walk, you can still play, That's all 0:59:31.800 --> 0:59:37.120 you know. Well, Mickey, it's great that you have survived 0:59:37.200 --> 0:59:42.520 it and you're on the fastest cry to getting better. Yeah, 0:59:42.520 --> 0:59:45.160 I don't know. It certainly could have been a lot 0:59:45.280 --> 0:59:48.080 worse because you don't want me doing this show's fags. 0:59:48.160 --> 0:59:51.440 You don't want me now, Bill, Bill, you don't want 0:59:51.480 --> 0:59:54.800 me to be that guy. Okay, Well, all I know 0:59:55.160 --> 0:59:58.080 is I've got two beagles here right next to me 0:59:58.320 --> 1:00:01.440 who want to be fed right now. Bow and Romo 1:00:01.600 --> 1:00:07.680 are their names, and there they came along in Tony 1:00:07.840 --> 1:00:10.640 Romo's first year as the Cowboys starting quarterback. That's why 1:00:10.720 --> 1:00:13.200 one of them was blessed with the name Romo. And 1:00:13.920 --> 1:00:16.040 they have awakened from their slumber and they want to 1:00:16.080 --> 1:00:18.280 be fed right now. So I think that's gonna do 1:00:18.360 --> 1:00:22.960 it for this edition of mix Shots. We've got so 1:00:23.160 --> 1:00:25.640 much to get to next week, and in fact, next week, 1:00:25.760 --> 1:00:30.200 how about we picked Cubby's brain on cornerbacks on this 1:00:30.440 --> 1:00:33.400 team that's on the next edition of mix Shots. Have 1:00:33.440 --> 1:00:37.160 a great Memorial Day weekend, everybody, and don't go out 1:00:37.240 --> 1:00:42.520 on a bicycle. Stay safe. This has been a production 1:00:42.680 --> 1:00:46.400 of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.