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Speaker 1: She built a billion dollar make cupground and walked away.

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Speaker 1: She's a New York Times bestselling author, a certified health coach,

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Speaker 1: and a married mom of three boys. Welcome to Beyond

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Speaker 1: the Beauty, a production of I Heart Radio. Hey, this

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Speaker 1: is Bobby and this is my first episode of Beyond

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Speaker 1: the Beauty. And I have no idea exactly what we're

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Speaker 1: going to be doing, which is exactly why I'm excited

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Speaker 1: about this. Why I do things and jump into things

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Speaker 1: is because I find things interesting and I like to

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Speaker 1: know what I don't know, and I don't know a lot,

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Speaker 1: which is one of the reasons why I'm doing this

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Speaker 1: podcast and why I'm really excited. I'm going to just

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Speaker 1: ask a ton of questions because I have a lot

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Speaker 1: to learn. But my very first guest is someone that

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Speaker 1: knows me really well. We have been together for seven years.

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Speaker 1: Seven years. She started as my executive assistant at Bobby

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Speaker 1: Brown Cosmetics, and she had never done that before. She

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Speaker 1: was a producer who produced Snoop Dogg. Came to New

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Speaker 1: York and needed a gig and a mutual friend introduced us.

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Speaker 1: Then she became the managing director of Yahoo. She ran

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Speaker 1: my eyeglass company. She also edited a book or two,

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Speaker 1: and then she moved to Montclair with her husband, had

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Speaker 1: a couple of babies, and now runs my empire. She

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Speaker 1: also doesn't know what she's doing, but she seems to

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Speaker 1: figure it out. But that's why her and I get

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Speaker 1: along so well. It's teratorcini. I'm really lucky to call

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Speaker 1: her my friend and really just you know, one of

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Speaker 1: my besties. So now she's crying. It wasn't just Yahoo though,

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Speaker 1: was Yahoo Beauty. I don't want people to get me

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Speaker 1: confused with Marissa Meyer at the time. That is correct.

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Speaker 1: And that was another time where someone came to me

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Speaker 1: had no clue what I was doing. Well, that was

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Speaker 1: a great introduction. So all right, let's just break the

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Speaker 1: we have ice. But it's not a Marten or Starbucks.

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Speaker 1: Hint hint. We love a sponsorship by you. Um, all right, Bobby,

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Speaker 1: what's your go to cocktail? My go to cocktail is

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Speaker 1: actually um Teto's on the rocks. Um either by itself

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Speaker 1: with three olives. If it's a Saturday night, and if

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Speaker 1: I need to be hydrated, I do a Teto's mohito,

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Speaker 1: which is a Tetos and soda with fresh lime juice,

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Speaker 1: some mint, and some cucumber, kind of like a spa drink. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what is your morning makeup routine? My morning makeup routine

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Speaker 1: is absolutely doesn't exist unless I am either being photographed

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Speaker 1: going to a party. And you always just do it

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Speaker 1: in the car anyway. I never done my makeup in

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Speaker 1: a bathroom ever, No I can't. I've never seen you

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Speaker 1: do it in a bathroom. Makeup item you can't live without,

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Speaker 1: I would say moisturizer. I think that's the one thing

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Speaker 1: that I could actually teach people. With the right moisturizer,

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Speaker 1: you really don't need that much makeup takes makeup off.

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Speaker 1: Coconut coconut oil takes makeup off. It can even do flyaways,

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Speaker 1: pinch and I love I love oil. I love oil.

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Speaker 1: Evening skincare routine, I take off my makeup and that's

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Speaker 1: it I do. If you're wearing any right, right, But

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Speaker 1: I think that's one thing people always misjudge about you, though,

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Speaker 1: I also had the honest truth be told us. Since

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Speaker 1: I left Bobby Brown Cosmetics, I don't wear as much makeup.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe getting rid of a lot of stress,

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Speaker 1: you look better. I've also become a health coach. I'm

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Speaker 1: This morning? My my trainer, Crystal came to my house.

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Speaker 1: that's the one thing I have to learn how to

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Speaker 1: some potion or something. All right, what's the last thing

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Speaker 1: told him I loved him. Oh I did that so sweet? Yeah, well, okay,

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Speaker 1: then I'll tell the story of how I first met

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Speaker 1: Bobby to just put things into perspective, because she described

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Speaker 1: our relationship like spot on. My mom calls us Oprah

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Speaker 1: and Gail. I'm obviously Gail. Um, It's okay, girl's killing it. So.

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Speaker 1: A and was looking for a job. I've only been

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Speaker 1: an assistant. I was like, so what, it's like, why

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Speaker 1: you know, leap of faith went. They booked me in

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Speaker 1: the bottom of Bloomy Street in some small, tiny, green

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Speaker 1: We'll just make our own business cards. I don't care

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Speaker 1: That would not have been allowed at sty laughter. You

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Speaker 1: That's right. And I remember one of those amazing moments

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Speaker 1: next chapter, next chap, come on, and Beauty from the

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Speaker 1: Inside Out came out, which is the ninth book. And

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Speaker 1: for those guys that don't know who I am, I've

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Speaker 1: done nine books, but I still don't know how to type.

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Speaker 1: They were not typed, they were handwritten. Tara had to

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Speaker 1: somehow we've managed to build a hotel, We've managed to

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Speaker 1: build a Just Bobby dot com. We're now on our

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Speaker 1: it's definitely girl power. Well, so for the people who

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Speaker 1: don't know you, let's talk about when you were young,

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Speaker 1: I did all sorts of things, and you know, pregnant

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Speaker 1: I'm not what are you? What are you hoping to learn?

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Speaker 1: What am I hoping to learn? I mean, look, I

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Speaker 1: a couple of things that I am pretty excited that

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Speaker 1: we're working on. Now. You know, I'm building another empire,

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Speaker 1: but I'm doing it differently. I'm doing it my way,

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Speaker 1: and if I ever sell it, I'm not staying because

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Speaker 1: I want to build this community of people that work

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Speaker 1: there's there's a whole bunch of things on my plate.

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Speaker 1: Well that sounds like the perfect definition for beyond the

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Speaker 1: real Bobby Brown, beyond the beauty. I think you just

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Speaker 1: summed up the podcast. My goal is um when I

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Speaker 1: to be you know, really fit fit person as I

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Speaker 1: get older, I think I will be. I have no doubt.

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Speaker 1: I have no doubt you round circles around people. Now,

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Speaker 1: I I would say that, I mean, I hate to

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Speaker 1: I don't look in the mirror a lot. I don't

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Speaker 1: You don't eat a bunch of crap crazy. You have

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Speaker 1: I have no problem sleeping, you know. Probably my biggest

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Speaker 1: it again? And I said no, I don't need to.

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Speaker 1: They thought, maybe you're just having a bad day. You

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Speaker 1: just thought I was having a bad day. I'm like

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Speaker 1: I tried to focus. Well, lots more to come from

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Speaker 1: the bobst as we call her, and I hope you

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Speaker 1: guys enjoyed the podcast The Real Bobby Brown, The Real

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Speaker 1: Bobby Brown on the Beauty. For more podcasts from I

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