1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,079 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. A 4 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:25,159 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio. Hello, and welcome back to 5 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: the show. My name is Noel, our compatriot Matazon Adventures 6 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:31,640 Speaker 1: and will be returning soon. They called me Ben. We're 7 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: joined as always with our super producer Alexis code named 8 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: Doc Holiday Jackson. Most importantly, you are you, You are here, 9 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:43,319 Speaker 1: and that makes this stuff they don't want you to know. 10 00:00:44,120 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: It's been uh well, I feel like we say this 11 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: every every week, but it's been a wild week in 12 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: the news. Want to thank everybody who's given us, given 13 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: us some leads, given us some responses to earlier stories 14 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: we did just to get this out of the way. No, 15 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: I think we need to do a full episode on 16 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: Columbia in the future, as well as ghost guns. But 17 00:01:07,000 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: today's Today's Strange News is not about any of that. 18 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: Today's Strange News is uh. There's some humors stuff I 19 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: would say, but it's also a Both of our stories 20 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: today are a study of uh, the darkness of the 21 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: human soul. In some ways, we've got a story in 22 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: a rock, we've got a mystery in the US. Uh. 23 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: And then you know we might uh maybe for our 24 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: third act, and well, what do you say we we 25 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,200 Speaker 1: add a little bit about our fears of the rising 26 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: price of gas at the end. Sounds good to me, 27 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: something I fear daily. I know we're at that age 28 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: now where I always picture like middle school me learning 29 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: the stuff that the current version of me cares about. Well, 30 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: it's also one of the few ways that I can 31 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: like comprehend inflation in my mind, because I have a 32 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: distinct memory of being a kid in gas costing a gallon. Yeah, 33 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: and this was maybe an Augusta. Yeah, I was an Augusta, 34 00:02:06,880 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: of course, where it's it's always going to be cheaper 35 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: than Cana Atlanta, and then you, god forbid you go 36 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 1: someplace like Los Angeles where it's just you know, rapaciously expensive. 37 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: But I also remember that Ninja Turtle's action figures were 38 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: four dollars. Interesting. It's interesting what details stay with us, 39 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 1: especially because you know the way memory works, which we've 40 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: talked about, and the fact that the past is often 41 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:32,080 Speaker 1: little more than a watercolor in the rain. It is 42 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: almost as if at times our brains play pranks on us. 43 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: How's that for a segue? A lot? It on a 44 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: scale of one to segue? Was that a segway? It 45 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: was definitely a segue. It was practically like one of 46 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: those little scooters you take tours on. Thanks man, this 47 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: is your story today is something that was fascinating to me. 48 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: I've just been reading up on it before we record. 49 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 1: I don't know a ton about this. What's going on 50 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: in a rock well? Um. You know, prank shows in general, 51 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: even here in the US, like what was it punked 52 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: with Ashton Kutscher? Uh, they're popular, Um, and it's something 53 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: that takes a lot of effort to pull off correctly. Um. 54 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: The more elaborate the prank, the better. Requires a lot 55 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 1: of planning and cooperation and uh, you know, keeping quiet 56 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: and not spoiling it for the participants. UM. But these 57 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 1: things can get out of hand, you know. It certainly 58 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: certainly can Uh. And that's exactly what has happened in Iraq, 59 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: where prank shows are hugely popular, but like way more 60 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 1: elaborate and frankly quite cruel prank shows. UM. I heard 61 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: about this on one of my favorite YouTube channels Internet today. Um. 62 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 1: They were talking about the kind of updated version of 63 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: the story. But in getting to that, UM, they talked 64 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: about this whole kind of culture and one of the 65 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: pranks they described was there's there's a couple of different 66 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: like famous pranksters, um. But one of them was, like 67 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: they all involved celebrities luring them to some sort of 68 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: scenario where then you know, something crazy happens. And one 69 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: of them was like a ship that was simulated to 70 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: be sinking and um, these like fake shark fins were 71 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 1: surrounding them, along with like severed body parts and stuff, 72 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, I mean, these are essentially 73 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 1: psychological warfare tactics, the kinds of things that I can't 74 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 1: imagine being one of these celebrities, uh and being subjected 75 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 1: to something like that and then being totally cool with 76 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: it and signing a release, um, because you know, you 77 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: have you know, and you oftentimes you see on these 78 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: types of shows, even in that new Eric Andre movie, UM, 79 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: which is called uh, What's going to Be or just 80 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: Tripp Tripping Trip something like that. UM. But it was 81 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: sort of a combination of a prank show, unscripted kind 82 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: of improv storytelling, but also involved like real people a 83 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: lot of US filming around Atlanta, and you see occasionally 84 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,600 Speaker 1: there's some folks that didn't think it was funny and 85 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:56,719 Speaker 1: consequently didn't sign the release. And you know that because 86 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: their faces are blurred out. Um. But this story is 87 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: particularly about one show in Iraq that got canceled, a 88 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:11,240 Speaker 1: show called Tom ross Lan where celebrities are invited or 89 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: at least in particular segment, celebrities are invited to um 90 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: visit families Iraqi families who have been displaced um as 91 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: a result of fleeing various terrorist groups. So, I mean, 92 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 1: of course we know that the climate, the political climate 93 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: UM in Iraq has and continues to be very uh dicey, 94 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: and um, you know, life there is not certainly not 95 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: always as as comfy as it maybe here in the States. 96 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: And they're you know, things that folks are very cutely 97 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: aware of that we just don't necessarily. I mean, obviously 98 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,359 Speaker 1: things have gotten kind of dicey here too, with you know, 99 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: insurrections at the capitol and um, you know, riots and 100 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: in these huge protests, but not nearly the same as 101 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,239 Speaker 1: the kind of peril that regular folks over in Iraq 102 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: would face every single day. UM, and and and this, 103 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: this show is kind of capitalizing on that fear in 104 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: a really weird and divisive way. UM. So again the ideas, 105 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: these celebrities are supposed to visit displaced the rocky families 106 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: UM who have fled extremist groups, and they are taken. 107 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: They arrive at these supposed homes where where they are 108 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: then ambushed by actors portraying UM jihadi fighters and their 109 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 1: fake explosions and you know, dummy rounds and muzzle flares 110 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: and all the things. They're blindfolded the celebrities by these Uh, 111 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: these actors and UM had fake suicide vests strapped to 112 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: their chests. Uh. And as far as they're concerned, this 113 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,159 Speaker 1: is all very real, and it's absolutely the kind of 114 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,719 Speaker 1: thing that there would be a threat of happening during 115 00:06:55,720 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 1: a visit like this, you know, especially these are own 116 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: thing that's exactly right. Ye. So imagine you're a celebrity 117 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: and you're going to visit a family that has supposedly 118 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: fled uh diesh uh, And you know, I would think 119 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 1: there would be some trepidation that goes along with that. 120 00:07:14,320 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: Maybe these families are targeted, so all this stuff would 121 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: would track, you know, as as being very very real. Uh. 122 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: One participant was a guy with a name of Allah 123 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: Mahui who was a soccer player, a well known soccer 124 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: player in the rock and he in the segment was 125 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: you know, in tears, was begging for his life. Um. 126 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: A a fifty eight year old actor by the name 127 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: of Nesma, famous enough to just have like one name. 128 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: I imagined. Um, she actually passed out after they strapped 129 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: her with this supposed explosive vest. So this isn't the 130 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: only example of this type of thing. This was just 131 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: probably one of the more extreme ones. Um. And it 132 00:07:56,600 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: was so controversial. Uh, you know, folks, viewers were just 133 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: absolutely outraged and anywhere. UM. A Twitter user by the 134 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: name of Blah al Masouli road this is not entertainment, um. 135 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: And you know there was a huge outcry, uh that 136 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: this was crossing a line, and ethically speaking, crossing line. 137 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: Not only is it offensive and impoor taste ethically, you know, 138 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: to these participants, it's it's essentially a form of abuse. 139 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: You know, it really is, well, what happens if someone 140 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: is armed, right, And I know they carefully prune security 141 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: for these celebrities. I always thought frank shows are mean spirited, 142 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: like the hidden camera stuff. There's some distinction here that well, 143 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 1: there are two for distinctions. First, the situation in Rock 144 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: is incredibly unstable in comparison to the US, so it's 145 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: the epitome of too suit right, the detractors would say, 146 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: for these sorts of pranks. But secondly, the way a 147 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 1: lot of prank shows in the US work is that 148 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: the people who are on them kind of get over 149 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 1: their embarrassment when they realize they're going to be on TV, 150 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,360 Speaker 1: which we so often conflate with being famous, right, And 151 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: so these folks, these victims are already celebrities. They don't 152 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 1: need that media push. I do want to shout out, though, 153 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: so it doesn't sound like I'm just dumping on all 154 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: prank shows. I like a lot of Japanese prank shows. 155 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: I've gone into the rabbit hole there and I never 156 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: really made it out. And they do things like, um, 157 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: they do things that probably also wouldn't fly in the West, 158 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: like an elevator floor drops off, or there's you know, 159 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: a screamy ghost thing, or a flash mob of people 160 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: is running at you. But this is a level of 161 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: magnitude more extreme because we've got fake suicide bombs, we've 162 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: got we've got procedures that terrorist groups really would do 163 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: if they were kidnapping someone. And I just keep thinking, 164 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 1: like what if what if one of these celebrities has 165 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: a firearm? Right, or they someone in their escort has 166 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: a firearm, or what if they themselves have a knife. 167 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: This could get ugly very quickly, even just with hand 168 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: to hand, right, Like if they really, you know, decided 169 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,640 Speaker 1: to take matters into their own hands and you know, 170 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: just try to disarm say one of the assailants and 171 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: maybe like pistol whipped them or something, you know, or 172 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: God knows, But like I'm looking at these images and 173 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: it's just absolute pandemonium. You know. This uh, this this 174 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 1: soccer player, I mean he has the look of abject 175 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: horror on his face. He's he's blindfolded. Um, a man 176 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: is leading him by the arm, he's had his hands bound. 177 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,199 Speaker 1: You know, I don't understan. Maybe there couts a cultural thing, 178 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. I just would be so angry 179 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 1: if has happened to me. Um, unless there was you know, 180 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: short of some massive payout, can you imagine being willing 181 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: to sign that release? Yeah, that's that's the question. It's 182 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: it's weird because I'm I'm looking at an update from 183 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: about six days ago from the BBC. You know, you 184 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 1: have to wonder how somebody would sign that release. They 185 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 1: probably have their age enterpr person telling them to be cool, 186 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: but they're making references to things like Saddam Hussein's war 187 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: crimes in a prank show, and apparently, just a few 188 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: days ago, as we record today, regulators in a rock 189 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:31,320 Speaker 1: have banned two different shows that we're doing this, one 190 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: called Rosalind's Shooting and one called Tony's Bullet Right. I 191 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,720 Speaker 1: think the breaking point, the part that went A bridge 192 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: too far is when, as you mentioned, that actor passed 193 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:45,200 Speaker 1: out after having fake explosives strapped to her. But I 194 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: also want to point out have you noticed, you know, 195 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 1: I studied language all the time, have you noticed everybody 196 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: saying a bridge too far? Now? I'm a fan, I 197 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: like it. I like it. I'm just wondering where it 198 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: came from. A bridge too far doesn't quite make sense. 199 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: I'm a littoking like, does it mean the bridge is 200 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 1: too long? Is it's dangerous? You wouldn't want to walk 201 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:07,599 Speaker 1: on a bridge for an extended period? I mean, I 202 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: don't know. Bridge is kind of freaked me out when 203 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: you're driving, especially if the sides are really short. It's 204 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: the nine film based on a book. Is it? Is 205 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: it like a bridge over troubled water? I don't know. 206 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: Let's see it is. Uh. It looks like a war 207 00:12:23,520 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 1: film or a war a book about war. It looks 208 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: like it's about Operation Market Garden, which was Oh, I 209 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:33,679 Speaker 1: can't tell you more, folks. In case you want to 210 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: see where a Bridge Too Far comes from, don't don't 211 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 1: let us spoil it for you. You'll have to check 212 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,839 Speaker 1: it out. All we can say is Operation Market Garden. 213 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 1: But that was a real thing and not a prank. 214 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: And going back to what we're talking about, Um, it 215 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: looks like Iraq is not unique in the Arab world 216 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: where controversial frank shows. There's another one in Egypt, Rama's 217 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,839 Speaker 1: sub Zero. I haven't heard about this one, Ben, give 218 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: me the scoop. So rama is sub Zero is presented 219 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 1: by I named Rama's Galal and apparently it's been coming 220 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 1: under a lot of fire. Uh or it was a 221 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: few years back. People were getting injured on this show. 222 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: But then also there were backstage complaints alleging that he 223 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: was sexually harassing certain actors. Yeah, that's the thing about 224 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 1: shows like this, I mean, it really does call into question, 225 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: you know, ethics. If you're willing to do stuff that's 226 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: this ethically questionable, where else are you cutting corners? You know, 227 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: in terms of safety? Um? I still could I continue 228 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 1: to press and then if any listeners out there have 229 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 1: any thoughts, I'd love to hear it. You know, how 230 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 1: they convinced these folks, these are these well to do folks, 231 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 1: you know, who are known in like national treasures for 232 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 1: all intents and purposes. How they convinced them to not 233 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: be absolutely enraged? Also, like who thought this was a 234 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: good idea? You know, Like I get it's all about ratings, 235 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: but this just seems like sci fi type stuff, you 236 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like the kind of stuff you 237 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: would see in some weird ystopian future world that's just 238 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 1: taking some reality television to the most intense extreme. Well, 239 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 1: you know, like as I said earlier, I've often considered 240 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: a lot of pranks in general kind of mean spirited. 241 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: There's something bullish about it where you're doing something that 242 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: would obviously make you upset if it happened to you, 243 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: But then you're going, oh, well, you can't take a joke, bro, 244 00:14:24,280 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: you know you're a candy camera. Sorry we killed your 245 00:14:27,200 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: dog or whatever. You can pay off almost ab normals. 246 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 1: You can pay off non celebrities, right, but it is 247 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: it is a difficult proposition when you think about how 248 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: you pay off people who don't probably don't need the money. 249 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: I didn't. I did not particularly care for because back 250 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 1: that BBC article I was mentioned, I did not particularly 251 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,119 Speaker 1: care for the rationalization that one of the show's writers 252 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: made one of the writers for Rosalind shooting uh he 253 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: this guy darg um abou Regive said, yeah, okay, the 254 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: scenes are harsh, but if the Islamic State had won, 255 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: artist would have a far harder life, and all the 256 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: rockies too. I don't think pointing out that the Islamic 257 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: State is bad automatically makes your cruel sketch show good. 258 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: And for anybody is saying, hey, wait, guys, how is 259 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: this stuff they want you to know? I would argue 260 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:26,080 Speaker 1: that all pranks are by nature conspiratorial on some level. 261 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: And like I said, I mean, you know, we've talked 262 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: about in the past those extreme haunted house situations where 263 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 1: you essentially pay someone to kidnap you and abuse you. 264 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:38,720 Speaker 1: You know, and that's something you have to sign a 265 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,040 Speaker 1: release for yourself in advance, in a waiver because I 266 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: think the point you may have been and that that 267 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 1: piece made about the actor kind of passing out, it 268 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: could have been a heart attack, could have been at 269 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: you know, it's like something like like intense events like 270 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: this can trigger like serious health, UM, you know, conditions 271 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,120 Speaker 1: if if you've got something like that. Um been is 272 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: another article in the BBC, maybe the one you're referring to, 273 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: but it's from way back in tween. Apparently a lot 274 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: of this whole culture of prank TV in Islamic countries 275 00:16:09,560 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 1: in particular UH is tied to Ramadan and like the 276 00:16:14,240 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: fasting month. UM. And there's in particular in in North Africa. UM. 277 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: There are a few of these shows, one of which 278 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: was called Ramz The Fox of the Desert UM, where 279 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: again guests, celebrity guests are the board yeah, Ramez right 280 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:38,160 Speaker 1: exactly board a bus that is then mock taken over 281 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:43,200 Speaker 1: by militants and they like execute the driver, take over 282 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:47,880 Speaker 1: the bus and then UH blindfold all of the participants. Again. 283 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: I think you see the word participants is is not 284 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: is not right? Um? These are these these folks have 285 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: been manipulated and then hijacked, you know, and essentially handcuffing 286 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 1: them and making them believe that they are about to 287 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: be mass executed. Um. And yeah, it's it's it's just 288 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: it's pretty wild. There's another one again with the sinking ship. 289 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: Um there's another one evolving. Uh. This one's a little 290 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: more kind of lighthearted and like horror and you kind 291 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,119 Speaker 1: of know this wasn't real. But they like they like 292 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: seal some celebrities and sort of like a mock Egyptian tomb. Uh. 293 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: And then there's like a mummy that comes to life 294 00:17:24,359 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: and like you know, spooks them or whatever. But again 295 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 1: that's one you could probably justify as like, Okay, well 296 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: that's way better than convincing them in a situation where 297 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: they absolutely could be at risk. Then they're being hijacked 298 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: by militants to be executed. But you're right, then all 299 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: this stuff is absolutely conspiratorial. I mean, you know, it 300 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: reminds me of that movie The Game, um with Michael Douglas. 301 00:17:48,160 --> 00:17:51,239 Speaker 1: You know, um, spoiler alert, I guess for a you know, 302 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: twenty year old movie. Um. But it's like this elaborate 303 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: series of events that the main character believes to be real, 304 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: only at the end to realize that it's all this 305 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,679 Speaker 1: elaborate kind of stunt that's being perpetrated by his brother 306 00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: as a birthday gift. Um. But it all goes, you know, 307 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: horribly awry. Of course, have you seen that movie been 308 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: I have? Yeah, yeah, and uh, you know, prank shows 309 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: like this are going to continue. There will always be 310 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 1: an audience for something like this because it's cathartic. It's 311 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: the same reason that there will always be people who 312 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: slow down dystereic car accidents. Totally. No, you you nailed it, man. 313 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:33,159 Speaker 1: So um, I'm surprised that that this hadn't crossed my 314 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: radar before. But it's it's definitely I guess. I guess 315 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: it's something they're having to reassess. I don't know if again, 316 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 1: like you said, then if there's an audience, they're only 317 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: gonna find a way to do it, whether they soften 318 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 1: it a little bit or what. Um. But yeah, I 319 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 1: can't stop, you know, thinking about this in terms of 320 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: some sort of like you know, Bread and Circus is 321 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: gone awry in some sort of dystopian future world where 322 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: you know, they literally just kidnap people and torture them 323 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 1: on television for you know, people's amusement. Oh and before 324 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: we go to a break. Uh, that horror house we're 325 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: mentioning often called the most extreme horrorhouse, haunted house. Rather, 326 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 1: it's not really haunted. It's a torture room. It's called 327 00:19:09,359 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 1: McCamy manner. Uh. And my conspiracy theory about McCamy manner 328 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: is that the guy is actually the guy's doing it 329 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:23,600 Speaker 1: is actually making money by running some sort of betting ring, 330 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: possibly based out of Vegas or somewhere online, where people 331 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: are betting on how long these people can endure this torture. Well, 332 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,119 Speaker 1: there's a there's a documentary about that, and he definitely 333 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,879 Speaker 1: does have subscribers that pay to watch it, like a 334 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 1: lot of them, and that's a big part of his 335 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: his business model, the betting part. Certainly I could see 336 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: how that would be something like they might not have 337 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: put him a documentary, but there's definitely cam kind of 338 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: situations where people a big part of his business model 339 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: is you know, getting paid subscriber fees for streaming. Uh, 340 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,640 Speaker 1: these scenes of people very consensually being tord because again 341 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: they are literally sign a waiver saying you know, you 342 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: can do whatever you want to me. I don't know 343 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: exactly what the language of the waiver is, but it's 344 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: not gonna hold up in court, not if they like 345 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: die right, Well, they're signing under durest to its steering. 346 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: It's no, it's it's gross. Oh, I think they have 347 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: to sign it before they go, and there's a big 348 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,240 Speaker 1: long waiting lists. So I don't think I'm signing now. 349 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,720 Speaker 1: But I know back in the day change it was 350 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: a lot more physical too. It's weird, but uh but yeah, hopefully, 351 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: hopefully we'll one day see it into mean spirited prank shows. 352 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,120 Speaker 1: I personally don't think it will happen, but it would 353 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: be for the benefit of humanity if it did. Agreed. Um, well, 354 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 1: let's take a quick break and hear a word from 355 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: our sponsor, and then we'll be back with some more 356 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 1: strange news. And we have returned. Special notice, folks, the 357 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 1: following story may not be appropriate for all audience members. 358 00:20:56,280 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 1: It will contain descriptions of use so long time listeners. 359 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: You may recall that we extensively covered the story of 360 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: Joseph James DeAngelo, who was also known as the Vezalea 361 00:21:13,080 --> 00:21:18,679 Speaker 1: Ransacker or the East Area rapists. We had covered his 362 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: story in a I believe a previous episode on Uncaught 363 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 1: serial Killers, which was you know, the terrifying thing about 364 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: that is it ended up being a multi part episode 365 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 1: and then we were able to uh cover this man's arrest, 366 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: his discovery, his incarceration, which entirely hinge on the growing 367 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: d n A info networks and he was caught through 368 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 1: a relative's d n A in that episode or in 369 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: that in that story, one thing that we mentioned was 370 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: that we predicted, it was very easy prediction that this 371 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: was going to only be the furs of more high 372 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: profile cases like this in the future, and pretty recently 373 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 1: that assumption of ours was proven correct. You may not 374 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: have heard of John Daily the third it was currently 375 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: fifty seven years old, unless you lived around the US 376 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: Mexico border or you you were involved with US Border patrol. 377 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: John Daily the third had recently retired and he was 378 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 1: all set to live a quiet life in his in 379 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: his elder years, his golden years, I guess they might 380 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 1: call it. But he has been arrested because he is 381 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:49,399 Speaker 1: suspected of being a serial sexual assaulter who terrorized Arizona 382 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: for at least between and two thousand and one, so 383 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,959 Speaker 1: more like two decades ago he was doing this and 384 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: he got away. Functionally, the crimes he's accused of were 385 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: attributed to a figure called the East Valley Rapists who 386 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: sexually assaulted eight women in four different cities in Arizona. 387 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 1: And the police talk about how they went through this 388 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 1: process of uncovering this very cold case. And folks, while 389 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: we were talking about this, please be aware that this 390 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:27,159 Speaker 1: is breaking, so there may be more information that comes. Uh. 391 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: And often these cases, it is not uncommon for more victims, 392 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: more crimes to be discovered, So we're not by any 393 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:41,040 Speaker 1: means Satan's limited to these eight victims. Here's here's what 394 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: they did. They used something called SAKI Sexual Assault kid 395 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: Initiative Funding and they went back through and started trying 396 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: to chase down leads. History check showed that John Daily 397 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,679 Speaker 1: the third had residency near each of these assaults at 398 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:03,479 Speaker 1: the time they occurred. And then just last month DNA 399 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: linked him too two and then d n A linked 400 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: him to a third. And they know about his m O. 401 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: They know about they know a lot about him, and 402 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:21,200 Speaker 1: you can read the official Mason Police Department statement here, uh, 403 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: and and it tells US. You know, it tells us 404 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:28,080 Speaker 1: some terrifying things they alleged that they know as m 405 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: O as well. They say that his pattern was to 406 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: enter a victim's home through an unlocked door or a 407 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,200 Speaker 1: window if it was open, and if the window wasn't open, 408 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: then he would break it. And in all three cases, 409 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:47,640 Speaker 1: whereas DNA is tied, he blindfolded the victims. As we 410 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: record now, it's very important to note he is being 411 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: held without bail, and because of his employment with US 412 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: Customs and Border Protection, people are wondering how many victims 413 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: he may have had that were perhaps undocumented, that might 414 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: have slipped through the cracks, and maybe the course of 415 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: his abominable career he was evolving. He was learning to 416 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: target people who, in a very real way, had no 417 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 1: had no way to fight back. Had you heard about 418 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: this case at all? No? No, I'm definitely familiar with 419 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 1: how important the DNA tech was and cracking that East 420 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: Area rapist case, but this one is news to me. 421 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: And uh, looking at an image of this guy, he 422 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: definitely has a vibe. He gives off kind of a 423 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: real sense of dread and just looking into space, m 424 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't you know, it's very difficult to ascribe motivation 425 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: from a still photograph, but it does not appear to 426 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,840 Speaker 1: be a facial expression in someone experiencing remorse. It makes 427 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: you sound very unhuman to say that old but I 428 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: think you'll you'll agree here. Also, they only they were 429 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: they have the DNA evidence. But the way they caught 430 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 1: him was they got one of his long time work 431 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: buddies from law enforcement to set up a ruse, almost 432 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: like a prank, to take him into custody. He was 433 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:20,159 Speaker 1: armed at the time. He resisted arrest. They didn't shoot him. 434 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 1: So when they take him in, they searched his home 435 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: and they find a cache of weapons as well as 436 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: some newspaper clippings about the assaults. This does not look 437 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: like a frame up job, is what I'm saying here. Uh, they, 438 00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 1: you know, Border patrol officials co operated in the case. 439 00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: But now there are so many questions about there's so 440 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,680 Speaker 1: many questions about the timeline. Right, so he is arrested. 441 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 1: Why did he stop twenty years ago or did he 442 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: just you know, evolved to find or did he just 443 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: start targeting one commented victims? Or did he you know, 444 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: did he like d'An angelo Jr. Eventually get to the 445 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: point where sexual violence wasn't enough and he had to 446 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: murder them as well. Right, I mean, we certainly see 447 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: Again my experience with a lot of stuff other than 448 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: you know, true crime reporting and things like that, is 449 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: you know, profiler type shows and then films, uh, and 450 00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:29,320 Speaker 1: often you do see escalation if people aren't caught, especially 451 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,240 Speaker 1: if it's something that's very fetishistic um, and then it 452 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 1: can kind of you know, the urge to rape can 453 00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: be supplanted by or you know, it's like you keep 454 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 1: pushing yourself to further and further extremes. You always want 455 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 1: the next most extreme thing, and then that could potentially 456 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: be murdered. Right, Yeah, that's a that's a good point. 457 00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: You have to wonder what he thought when D'Angelo was captured. 458 00:27:55,240 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: Did John Daily The third feel the new closing in 459 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: is when you know when he stopped and when he 460 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: was active, At least from what we know now, d 461 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: N A collection was already a thing. So maybe he 462 00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: eventually decided to maybe eventually decided to take steps to 463 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: lessen his d D footprints, or maybe he just started 464 00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: taking people's lives as well. This this is going on 465 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,719 Speaker 1: the heels of other reports you know, it wasn't too 466 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 1: long ago. It was actually a little bit less than 467 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: a year ago, around August when the story broke about 468 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: ice guards that were sexually assaulting detainees in an organized 469 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: manner in an El Paso detention center. Uh so, this 470 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 1: guy at this point appears to be alone actor. But 471 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: what what I'm establishing here, you know, and I'm not 472 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: by any means trying to paint with a broadbrush or 473 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: loop everyone together unfairly, but we already have a very 474 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: recent example of authorities abusing uh these very vulnerable people. 475 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: So one of the questions if you're someone who stands 476 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: against the current border policy, for lack of a better word, 477 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: than you know, what are your next media questions is? Well, 478 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: what else is happening that's not getting reported? I mean, 479 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: do you think this guy could have had committed more crimes? 480 00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: I'm almost certain, absolutely, yeah. I mean, especially with such 481 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,080 Speaker 1: a long history of operating and then sort of like 482 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: a going dark period, right, Like, I just feel like 483 00:29:48,560 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 1: it's a matter of him being under the radar for 484 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: that period of time, not having been completely dormant. That 485 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense. Yeah, yeah, because even people like 486 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: a B. T. K. We're able to they hit pause 487 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: for a while, but eventually, uh, eventually, they were back 488 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 1: to committing these these heinous crimes. As we speak, daily 489 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: is incarcerated. He was given more than a dozen felony 490 00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: charges related to those three that they have him pinned 491 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: with the DNA for. But again they suspect him strongly 492 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: in a total of eight sexual assault cold cases. And 493 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: this takes us to something a little bit different that 494 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,840 Speaker 1: I wanted to I wanted to talk about in the US, 495 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,239 Speaker 1: and I don't know if it's something that everyone's aware of. 496 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: It doesn't get as much pressed as it should in 497 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 1: my opinion. But of all her, if you're familiar with 498 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: true crime, you're familiar shows like Law and Order and 499 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 1: anything else in the Dick wolfe Uveou, then you are 500 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: doubtlessly you've heard of phrase rape kit before. And um, 501 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: you know, as as we're recording, we're very well aware 502 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: that for the statistics, it is likely that someone in 503 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: the audience today has had to experience this process of firsthand, 504 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: and we in no way make light of it. But 505 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: we do need to point out one of the biggest 506 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 1: problems here. There is a rape kit backlog in the US, 507 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: and it goes across states, it goes across county lines. 508 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: It is a huge silence problem. We don't even know 509 00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: how many are sitting just gathering dust, untested in storage 510 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: facilities for police precincts or crime labs across the country. 511 00:31:49,800 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: It's estimated that there are hundreds of thousands of these kits, 512 00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: and each one of them in this nationwide epidemic, each 513 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: one of those represents a lost opportunity to bring justice 514 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 1: to criminals who got away. The Atlantic in t Do 515 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: they estimated that there were as many as two hundred 516 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: thousand of these kits that are just unopened, and and 517 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,640 Speaker 1: it seems like that should be an easy thing to solve, right, 518 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: is it funding? Is it what is motivating this? It's 519 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: unclean man. Yeah, it's it's weird because you think about 520 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 1: how militant so many police forces are when it comes 521 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: to being able to I guess police certain underserved populations, 522 00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: let's just say. But then when people are actually victims 523 00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: of crimes, Uh, sometimes people get left out on the 524 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: cold and there's no follow through. But when it comes 525 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: to like squashing protests or you know, uh pulling over 526 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: and and I'm started to get soap boxy about it. 527 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: But it's just how can you ignore it? Um pulling 528 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: over and ultimately killing so many you know, unarmed UM 529 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 1: people of color. This is extra This makes it extra heartbreaking, 530 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: I guess, is what I'm getting at. Yeah, I think 531 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: that's really good point. Now the Atlantic article I mentioned 532 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 1: before by Carolyn Mims nice n y c E. She 533 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: answers these questions in a pretty interesting way. You know. 534 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,760 Speaker 1: She had the first question that a lot of us 535 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: have heard about this. She said, why has this stuff 536 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: that could break cases and bring justice to victims? Why 537 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 1: is it sat around for so long? According to this journalist, 538 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: a big factor is police culture. She alleges that a 539 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 1: lot of officers might not take allegations of sexual assault 540 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: seriously and they may drag their feet. Uh and and 541 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, women especially are discredited so often in these reports, 542 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,319 Speaker 1: like let's say you have a criminal history, or you 543 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: were not sober during the attack, or you somehow knew 544 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 1: your victim um, or you didn't fight back. You know, 545 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: they're subjected to skepticism at at his honestly probably one 546 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: of the worst moments of their lives. And then we 547 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: know that there are promising results. I wanted to bring 548 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,720 Speaker 1: this all the way back around to the Sexual Assault 549 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 1: Kid Initiative or SAKI. Uh It's had mixed results, some 550 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: very good, like in Detroit and Cleveland they've been pretty successful. Uh. 551 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 1: Psyche allocated, by the way, a hundred and fifty four 552 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: million dollars in funding to these local jurisdictions to start 553 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,400 Speaker 1: going through this backlog. But then other places like Connecticut 554 00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 1: have received three million dollars in funding and they have 555 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: at this point not not resulted in charges or convictions. 556 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: But that I think I would argue that alone is 557 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: not an excuse not to be vigilant and test every 558 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: one of these because I am not being hyperbolic and 559 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,840 Speaker 1: I am not being alarmist when I say that those 560 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,919 Speaker 1: those kids will lead to convictions all of them, probably not, 561 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:33,200 Speaker 1: some of them, yes, and there are repeat offenders out there. 562 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:38,440 Speaker 1: It is a statistical certitude. It's it's impossible that there 563 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,000 Speaker 1: would not be at this point given this problem. So 564 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:47,240 Speaker 1: with that, we will give pertinent updates on the story 565 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,200 Speaker 1: of John Daily the third as as they come up. 566 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 1: Would love to hear your opinion on the backlog of 567 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,080 Speaker 1: these kits, why it happened, how to fix it? On 568 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: three st d w y t K. You can also 569 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,959 Speaker 1: be most directly where we're conspiracy at iHeart radio dot 570 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: com NOL. This was a heavy one. I say we 571 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: take a break and then come back with something a 572 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: little bit less dire. What do you think I think? 573 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,319 Speaker 1: I'm with you, Ben, I think I'm with you. It's 574 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,359 Speaker 1: something that you know, hopefully will give people something they 575 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: can actually do. We're back. I know in the past 576 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: it made a lot of car references. Uh this We're 577 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 1: not turning this show in the car stuff, we promised, 578 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: but we do want to see how this story plays out. 579 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 1: You may have heard this in the news, folks, the 580 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 1: Colonial pipeline has been hacked. No do you remember? It 581 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 1: wasn't too long ago. Times funny during the pandemic. But 582 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: we did a we did a story on Strange News. 583 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: I think it was about a hacker in Florida who, 584 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: just like for the Lulls, hacked into a water treatment plant, yeah, 585 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,640 Speaker 1: and injected it with Was it like mercury, No, it 586 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 1: wasn't mercury. It was some chemical that in small amounts 587 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 1: was used in the water treatment but basically up the uh, 588 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: the release of this this chemical to what would have 589 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:26,680 Speaker 1: been toxic levels ammonia. I think it was ammonia. I 590 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,279 Speaker 1: it was lie. That's the one, thank you man, which also, 591 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:32,800 Speaker 1: as it turns out, as a great way to dissolve 592 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 1: a body. Right. And this, uh, this hacker who was 593 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,880 Speaker 1: unidentified at the time into the story, increased that supply 594 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 1: by a hundred times uh the allowable level. And when 595 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,200 Speaker 1: we talked about this story, we're kind of into this 596 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: real life supervillain thing, mainly because the guy got caught 597 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: and no one died of ingesting massive amounts of lie. 598 00:37:56,680 --> 00:38:00,359 Speaker 1: But we made a prediction and we said, you know, 599 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: this is the boring part of infrastructure, right, this is 600 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: the stuff that doesn't make the news because it doesn't 601 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: have a cute, fuzzy animal or it doesn't have a 602 00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:12,680 Speaker 1: single human face you can put on the screen to 603 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: be representative of a larger problem. It's not a lot 604 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: of people get elected by saying the first thing I'm 605 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: gonna do is raised taxes so we can rebuild all 606 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 1: these crumbling bridges. And if you don't do that boring stuff, 607 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,359 Speaker 1: if you don't focus on that infrastructure, then you end 608 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: up with further disasters. That's right, folks, we're talking about 609 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 1: the Colonial Pipeline, which is a Georgia based company. Right, 610 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: that's right. It is a pipeline that transports fuel from 611 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 1: east to west coast, isn't that right? Been or up 612 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 1: along the east coast. It's of quite a long stretch 613 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:56,759 Speaker 1: of pipeline, part of the supply chain. Yeah, it's pretty bad. Here. 614 00:38:56,920 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: Here's what happened. These hackers broke into the Colonial Pipeline 615 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: and this prompted the company to shut down one of 616 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 1: what's been described as one of the U s IS 617 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: major arteries for fuel. And as of today we're recording 618 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,960 Speaker 1: this May tenth, it's been shut down for four days. 619 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:22,520 Speaker 1: A shadowy criminal network, which I never thought we'd say 620 00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: on ironically one more time, a shadowy criminal network called 621 00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: dark side, all one word for anybody checking on your browser. 622 00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 1: Yet they have issued a statement and they were holding 623 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:41,680 Speaker 1: they were holding the company for ransom. Essentially, the FBI 624 00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: has attributed this attack to dark Side. They haven't um, 625 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:51,239 Speaker 1: they haven't explicitly identified themselves people in the know in 626 00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:55,960 Speaker 1: the world of hacking. At least the government experts believe 627 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:59,760 Speaker 1: that this group may be based in Russia or Eastern Europe, 628 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: and that's because it's ransomware targets computers that do not 629 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: use keyboards in the language of former Soviet republics. So 630 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: there's already one workarounds, right, Just make everybody in the 631 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: US oil industry learn Russian? Why not? Why not? Why not? 632 00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:22,000 Speaker 1: Dual lingo? It's easy. Yeah, just thirty minutes a day. 633 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 1: Can be fluent in no time. So, uh, this and 634 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: just to be clear, ransomware, I feel like we all 635 00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:31,960 Speaker 1: know this now, but ransomware is a kind of malware 636 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 1: that will encrypt files on a device, rendering files and 637 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: systems unusable, and then the people who are responsible for 638 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:43,479 Speaker 1: the attack will come back in and say, you gotta 639 00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:47,000 Speaker 1: pay us, probably a bitcoin or some other you know, blockchain, 640 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,320 Speaker 1: you gotta pay us, and then we'll decrypt your stuff. 641 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:55,000 Speaker 1: So they're they're holding it hostage. Current US President Joe 642 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:58,880 Speaker 1: Biden says there's no evidence so far that Russia was 643 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 1: involved with the attack, but a statement in the group's 644 00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:08,399 Speaker 1: name said our goal is to make money and not 645 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:14,680 Speaker 1: creating problems for society. And it's weird because again we 646 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 1: don't know how this is going to how this is 647 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,799 Speaker 1: going to play out, when that line is gonna get 648 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: turned back on whether or not they're going to offer, 649 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: they're actually going to pay the ransom. This network, as 650 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: you mentioned earlier, NOLD is more than five thousand miles long, 651 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:36,000 Speaker 1: and it doesn't just move the gas that goes in 652 00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 1: your car. It moves jet fuel, it moves diesel. This 653 00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,759 Speaker 1: this could be, this could be a very difficult time 654 00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 1: because we're already you know, there's still so many pandemic shortages. 655 00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 1: Like do you hear about catchup packets? I did hear 656 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:54,239 Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, it's an odd one. They're gonna start 657 00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: rationing them out, the sweet sweet catchup packets. I like 658 00:41:57,320 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: to just sweeze them right out of the out of 659 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: the pack. I'm kidding. I'm not a monster. Oh well, 660 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 1: I think I might be a monster because sometimes I've 661 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,920 Speaker 1: been in a hurry and I've been like a little 662 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,160 Speaker 1: little zinga tomatoes sugar. I don't get me going. But 663 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: because it turns out catch up not keto, not part 664 00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,600 Speaker 1: of this balanced keto diet which I am attempting with 665 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,239 Speaker 1: with every inch of my being, it's hard. Oh you 666 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,359 Speaker 1: got it, man, thanks about it. You just gotta make 667 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,000 Speaker 1: it through that keto flu. Isn't that what they call it? 668 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:26,560 Speaker 1: And well, I haven't gotten there yet, so obviously I'm 669 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,040 Speaker 1: not doing it right. Well maybe it's not everybody, but 670 00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 1: I know people who swear by our colleague Auta from 671 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,240 Speaker 1: Ethnically Ambiguous and the Daily zeitgeis is a great person 672 00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,760 Speaker 1: to talk about and and uh, yeah, we didn't predict 673 00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: catchup packet shortages. We we didn't predict a lot of 674 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 1: other shortages that are all domino effects of the pandemic, 675 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: like one of the if you were trying to buy 676 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,800 Speaker 1: a house right now, when you're surprised they were so expensive. 677 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:59,000 Speaker 1: That's partially because the cost of materials skyrocketing because for 678 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 1: a while, people weren't out making timber, right, they weren't 679 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: out uh making dry walls stuff like that. And those 680 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 1: effects are gonna last for a while. But now, at 681 00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:14,400 Speaker 1: a pretty bad time, we are facing a possible I 682 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: don't know. I hope it doesn't go to a full 683 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,160 Speaker 1: gas crisis, but you know knowl you and Doc and 684 00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,360 Speaker 1: I were talking about this right before we rolled, and 685 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,480 Speaker 1: I never like, this is where this is what I'm 686 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,880 Speaker 1: talking about when I wonder what our middle school selves 687 00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,800 Speaker 1: would think of us, because I felt like I sounded 688 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:34,719 Speaker 1: like such an elderly old creature. We were on it. 689 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:37,759 Speaker 1: I was like, everybody, fill up your gas takes now 690 00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,319 Speaker 1: and I I, oh, totally and also sounded similarly so 691 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:44,200 Speaker 1: when I said, back when I was a boy, I 692 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:47,560 Speaker 1: remember gas was nine to nine cents on the gallon 693 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:54,640 Speaker 1: and a Ninja Turtles four dollars to be specific. Because 694 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: it was tricky into thinking it was only three. I 695 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:03,319 Speaker 1: remember telling my parents, but Mom, it's only three us. Yes, yeah, 696 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 1: I was there. I was there too, with with se 697 00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,279 Speaker 1: various toys, and I would always try to I would 698 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,240 Speaker 1: always try to phrase things as an extra added value, 699 00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,000 Speaker 1: like you know why by one comic book? Uh, if 700 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,160 Speaker 1: you really want your kid to read, I think you 701 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: should go for six when you're investing in the future. 702 00:44:21,600 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: So um, So, we wanted to report this because we 703 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: want First we didn't want to end on some of 704 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: our earlier segments. Secondly, we wanted to see how this 705 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: shakes out. So this episode is going to be coming 706 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 1: out about seven days from now. We don't know exactly 707 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,839 Speaker 1: how things will shake out, but we will want to 708 00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:49,000 Speaker 1: hear about whether gas is spiked in your neck of 709 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,400 Speaker 1: the woods. We want to hear if you think that 710 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:56,720 Speaker 1: there will be more problems like this in the future. 711 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:01,960 Speaker 1: We know that just yesterday maynight, as we record, Colonial 712 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: had restarted some smaller lines, but the main lines are shut. 713 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:11,799 Speaker 1: The artery is clogged. This I don't know, man, this 714 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 1: could lead to price spikes. I'm gonna be honest, I'm 715 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,160 Speaker 1: gonna gas up my car after this. Yeah, I Well, 716 00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:20,359 Speaker 1: thankfully we don't have to drive a hell of a lot, 717 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:22,480 Speaker 1: so we're working from home. Not that we you know, 718 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,080 Speaker 1: we definitely are getting are beginning to get back into 719 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,920 Speaker 1: the swing of uh you know, post wellance. Not that's 720 00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,520 Speaker 1: that's the end of it or anything, but relatively speaking 721 00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:35,520 Speaker 1: post COVID life. Um but and also I'm gonna be 722 00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,960 Speaker 1: definitely saving some gas because my car has two flat 723 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,720 Speaker 1: tires and is dead in the water in my driveway 724 00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 1: right now, and I couldn't get an appointment for mobile 725 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:48,000 Speaker 1: tire repair until Friday, so perfect timing for me. I'm 726 00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,600 Speaker 1: just gonna I'm just gonna make this my life now. 727 00:45:49,640 --> 00:45:51,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna get used to not driving because gas is 728 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:55,279 Speaker 1: gonna reach mad max level scarcity before we know it. Well. 729 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 1: And also, if you've ever lived in a place where 730 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,080 Speaker 1: you don't have to drive, it's kind of great, Like 731 00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 1: I think was it were you and I talking about 732 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 1: this about living in New York. You're always on the subway, 733 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,520 Speaker 1: so you're like more likely to be in better shape. Oh, totally. 734 00:46:10,560 --> 00:46:12,440 Speaker 1: It's just we were talking about in terms of my 735 00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,360 Speaker 1: kid and the new school that she's going to go 736 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 1: to next year, because she's going to a school that 737 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,560 Speaker 1: is walking distance from her new house. Um, and nothing 738 00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:27,400 Speaker 1: is better than functional exercise like biking and getting somewhere 739 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 1: and then coming back, you know what I mean, Like 740 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 1: it's great when you have to go somewhere to walk, 741 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,719 Speaker 1: it always feels like a chore. But if you're just 742 00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 1: doing it as a part and you have a reward 743 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,520 Speaker 1: by getting somewhere at the end, and then you just 744 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 1: do it every day, becomes like second nature. I don't 745 00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,200 Speaker 1: even think about. Yeah, that's why, that's why I do 746 00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,400 Speaker 1: a lot of night walks. What I'm doing q as 747 00:46:45,840 --> 00:46:48,080 Speaker 1: uh where. That's the part where we listened to an 748 00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,600 Speaker 1: episode before it comes out to make sure that we 749 00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,880 Speaker 1: didn't curse so much that Doc or Paul forgot to 750 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 1: bleep us saying stuff like mother that's at the very 751 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,040 Speaker 1: end they never miss. There's so much better at this 752 00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 1: than we are, so I think that's our show for 753 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 1: to date. Noel, thank you again for giving me a 754 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 1: tiny excuse. That's all I need to dive back into 755 00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 1: the world of Japanese prank shows. And uh, here's hoping that, 756 00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 1: here's hoping that we'll see some justice and some further 757 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 1: investigation of those um of those sexual assault kits. And 758 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:32,400 Speaker 1: you know, here's here's hoping that our post pandemic world 759 00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:35,439 Speaker 1: still has affordable gas. But what do you think about 760 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,439 Speaker 1: all these things? Folks? We cannot wait to hear from you. 761 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 1: Hit us up. We try to be easy to find online. Oh, 762 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,080 Speaker 1: we don't always do this, not just as a show, 763 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,200 Speaker 1: but as individuals. As individuals, you can find me as 764 00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 1: an individual person. I'm pretty much only on Instagram. I've 765 00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,440 Speaker 1: got accounts elsewhere, but I don't only do anything on them. 766 00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,200 Speaker 1: But you can find me on Instagram at how now 767 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,120 Speaker 1: Noel Brown Ben is much more of the social media renaissance, 768 00:47:57,160 --> 00:48:01,120 Speaker 1: ma'am oh I uh, well, you know it's a pandemic. 769 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,880 Speaker 1: I'm not going places to talk to people, but you 770 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,359 Speaker 1: can find you can find them out more about my 771 00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,880 Speaker 1: misadventures and a little behind the scenes of stuff they 772 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,440 Speaker 1: don't want you to know on Twitter app Ben bullan 773 00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,359 Speaker 1: hs W on Instagram. Uh out at Ben Bull. It's 774 00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,360 Speaker 1: literally my name. I don't know how I forgot that. 775 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 1: Bo w l I N. While you're on the internet, 776 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,080 Speaker 1: if you want to check out the best Facebook page 777 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:27,479 Speaker 1: on the planet or in the galaxy, go to Here's 778 00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,319 Speaker 1: where it gets crazy. You'll even see Noel and uh 779 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:35,399 Speaker 1: Nolan I are popping up there occasionally as ourselves. If 780 00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,719 Speaker 1: you hate social media, we've got another solution for you. 781 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,440 Speaker 1: This is our compatriot, Matt Frederick's favorite form of communication. 782 00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,480 Speaker 1: And if you leave a message after the sound of 783 00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:46,920 Speaker 1: Ben's dulcet tone at one eight three three S T 784 00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,280 Speaker 1: d W I T K, you might just get yourself 785 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,359 Speaker 1: a call back from Mattie two hands himself. That's right. 786 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 1: Oh man, it's never gonna live. I'm so glad he's 787 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,800 Speaker 1: okay with that nickname. It's just epic. Uh. Also, I 788 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,160 Speaker 1: have to ask real quick, no, does does Matt call 789 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:07,480 Speaker 1: you a lot? No? No? Okay, So this is something 790 00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,960 Speaker 1: that might just be for you all. It's very special. 791 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,120 Speaker 1: I mean these days, you know, typically a phone call 792 00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:16,799 Speaker 1: is tantamount like you see someone calling you and your 793 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:21,239 Speaker 1: immediate reaction as distrust and uh annoyance. It's like when 794 00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 1: you can just text me, but a call from Matt 795 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:26,239 Speaker 1: Frederick is something different. Entirely my friends and not to 796 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: be missed. Yeah, I have a very shortlist of people 797 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: I answered the phone for it because the twenty one 798 00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:34,880 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of like somebody showing up at your 799 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,040 Speaker 1: house and just knocking on the door, you know. But yes, 800 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,400 Speaker 1: the rumors are true. You may get a call from 801 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 1: Matt Frederick himself. We've also had great conversations as a 802 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,239 Speaker 1: group with some listeners who chimed in, So please be 803 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 1: part of the show. Just let us know if we 804 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 1: can use your voice name on air. If you're saying 805 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 1: I'm with you, guys, I hate phones. You better not 806 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 1: let Matt call me. We have another solution for you. 807 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,040 Speaker 1: You can reach us anytime seven at our good old 808 00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,760 Speaker 1: fashioned email address where we are conspiracy at iHeart radio 809 00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 1: dot com. Stuff they Don't Want You to Know is 810 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,440 Speaker 1: a production of I Heart Radio. For more podcasts from 811 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:32,560 Speaker 1: my Heart Radio, visit the I heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, 812 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,480 Speaker 1: or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.