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Speaker 2: It's game time. It is Manzi Milanios. Not the game

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Speaker 3: You confuse me for a hot second because I really

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Speaker 2: and Falcons felt like a throwaway game. Entering it, it

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Speaker 2: was anything but at the end playoff implications as the

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Speaker 2: Rams now in that sixth spot in the NFC, the

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Speaker 2: Falcons could have an effect on what happens with the

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Speaker 2: NFC South. Now if they keep on winning and they

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Speaker 2: win in the final week, could have an effect on

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Speaker 2: the Panthers and Buccaneers because they would be a part

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Speaker 2: of a tiebreaker if there was a three way tie.

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Speaker 2: But we're talking about the game within the game, Manci

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Speaker 2: and that are and that is a play that was

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Speaker 2: called incompletes on a punkin Nakua pass and another play

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Speaker 2: that was called incomplete on a pass to two at

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Speaker 2: Well that was considered possibly interference. And that's where I

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Speaker 2: want to start because last night Joe buck Troy, the

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Speaker 2: ESPN crew, many on social media felt that in one

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Speaker 2: of the final passes of the game, throwing deep to

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Speaker 2: two two at Well, that pass interference should have been called.

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Speaker 2: John Perry, the ESPN referee that is in the booth

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Speaker 2: with them said as much that that is that is

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Speaker 2: past interference. That is past interference last night in Atlanta.

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Speaker 2: And I know, Maazi, that Troy Aikman and John Perry

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Speaker 2: and all these people have more qualifications when it comes

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Speaker 2: gave it to the wrong guy. I know they have

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Speaker 2: more qualifications than what I do. But that wasn't pass

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Speaker 2: interference last night in Atlanta. It was not. So whether

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Speaker 2: it is Russell York or John Perry or Troy Aikman

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Speaker 2: It was not pass interference.

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Speaker 4: Listen, I.

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Speaker 3: I get sit here and say I agree with you,

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Speaker 3: but I don't. I thought it was past interference. I

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Speaker 3: thought he prevented him from catching the ball holding his

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Speaker 4: Now do I care?

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Speaker 2: Not?

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Speaker 3: Really, I'm not a RAMS fan, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 3: I've seen the NFL miss more egregious calls. I've also

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Speaker 3: seen the NFL call pass interference on less than what

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Speaker 3: happened with two Tuo out. Well, I've seen both sides

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Speaker 3: of the coin. But at the same time, even though

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Speaker 3: I was like, that's past interference. In the middle of

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Speaker 3: the game, the boyfriend says, yeah, but you don't call

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Speaker 3: you don't call that right now, because I would complain

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Speaker 3: if somebody made a you know, a game changing call

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Speaker 3: I would be upset. So I was like, you're right,

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Speaker 3: You're right, I would be upset. But that was past interference.

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Speaker 2: This is how it sounded last night in Atlanta, late

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Speaker 5: Watch the left arm of that well and the grab

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Speaker 5: the catch. That's a miss call. And that's a good point, Joe.

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Speaker 5: I mean that first arm, it's hand fighting. But the

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Speaker 5: second time he holds them the left arm down right

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Speaker 5: when he's trying to make the catch, that's a pass interference.

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Speaker 2: And I think that your boyfriend is one hundred percent

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Speaker 2: correct in this scenario. Here's what the Rams were doing.

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Speaker 2: So last night, whether people realize it or not, the

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Speaker 3: Nothing they could have also, sorry, I forgot to say

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Speaker 3: when you were saying the things that they were playing for.

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Speaker 3: They do have an NFL pick that could have been

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Speaker 2: Sure that that would have helped their cause with a win,

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Speaker 2: But to think that they had a chance at the

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Speaker 2: number one overall seed, they didn't. You don't know who

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Speaker 2: you're gonna play. You can't sit there and say five

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Speaker 2: would hurt them for sure, But in the grand scheme

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Speaker 2: forty nine ers one on Sunday, there wasn't as much

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Speaker 2: urgency for the Rams in that game. And you know

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Speaker 2: how come I know this is because they were just

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Speaker 2: chucking the ball down the field. If they won it, great,

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Speaker 2: If they didn't win it, great in that specific pass

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Speaker 2: in that specific instance too. To two at well, if

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Speaker 2: mancy with sixteen seconds left and you're at the thirty

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Speaker 2: five yard line. What are you normally trying to do

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Speaker 2: in a three point game? Tyet, Yes, kick a field goal.

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Speaker 2: By the way, great job, because I hate pop quizzes

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Speaker 2: and Moncy just passed with flying colors. You're trying to

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Speaker 2: kick a field goal. So what do the Rams do?

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Speaker 2: They chuck one down the field, which you know what

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Speaker 2: else it does takes up a lot of time. It does.

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Speaker 2: So if you complete the pass and let's say two

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Speaker 4: Line, time is left at that point.

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Speaker 2: Nine seconds was when the play ends up ending. So

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Speaker 2: now you have nine seconds to run down the field

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Speaker 2: if he catches it, and go and spike the ball

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Speaker 2: for a game winning kick to get everybody. And I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about all the linemen. I'm not talking about one.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about getting five NFL linemen to sprint entirely

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Speaker 2: able to spike the football. It's not gonna happen. What

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Speaker 2: kick the field goal and call it good. That's what

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Speaker 2: it is. That's how you would to tie the game. Now,

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Speaker 2: when they only had nine seconds left, they had to

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Speaker 2: throw an out route to pukin Nakula. The Rams had

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Speaker 2: no interest in all of this. And to your boyfriend

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Speaker 2: Shawn's point, you don't make that call at that point

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Speaker 2: You're not going to just throw it up and hope

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Speaker 2: to get a pass interference call. And that's why it

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Speaker 2: shouldn't be past interference. So when we hear something of like, oh,

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Speaker 2: that's pass interference, it's the same stupid thing as there's

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Speaker 2: holding on every play of an NFL game. Every single

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Speaker 2: play you could call holding, every single play you could

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Speaker 2: call pass interference. We don't need to ruin We don't

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Speaker 2: need to review pass interference. That ruined the game for

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Speaker 2: the three weeks that it was in place. It truly did.

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Speaker 2: It was three weeks, and then heck it was week

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Speaker 2: two because it happened in the Seahawks Steelers game. The

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Speaker 2: everybody's like, you know what, this kind of whack. We

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Speaker 2: shouldn't be calling past interference anymore. It lasted two weeks

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Speaker 2: in the National Football League. We don't need to make changes.

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Speaker 2: It was not past interference last night, not only because

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Speaker 4: Contact, the fact all of that.

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Speaker 2: It's the situation. It's the situation that was going on.

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Speaker 2: The refs knew what the Rams are trying to do.

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Speaker 2: The only way if two two at Well would have

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Speaker 2: a stoppage of the clock would be if there was

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Speaker 2: a penalty. And so they were trying to game the system,

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Speaker 4: So I, you know, again, agree with that you don't

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Speaker 3: I still think it was past interference, But you know

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Speaker 3: why they made that play kind of you hit on

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Speaker 3: it that that's like it didn't seem like they really cared.

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Speaker 4: It seemed like they came out a little bit like relaxed.

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Speaker 3: And then Atlanta came on to put on a show

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Speaker 3: at home understandably so, and they try to catch up.

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Speaker 4: But the other.

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Speaker 3: Storyline surrounding Matthew Stafford is the MVP. So he needed

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Speaker 4: Because he affected my championship team. Thank you so much,

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Speaker 4: Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 6: And so he was in that moment, was trying to

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Speaker 6: Matthew Stafford can do without Pukinakua, because that was the

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Speaker 7: Oh if doesn't have a good game, Matthew Stafford doesn't either,

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Speaker 7: and so at that moment he's like, I'll watch me

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Speaker 7: throw this down to somebody else and we're gonna catch

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Speaker 7: it and it's gonna go right back up to Oh okay,

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Speaker 7: now Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 2: Is not is Do you think the Rams sabotaged it

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Speaker 2: passed the puka to strengthen his MVP case by throwing

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Speaker 2: it the two two out, Well.

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Speaker 3: I'm trying that's reason as to why you made such

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Speaker 4: I'm trying to give reason here.

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Speaker 2: And that's enhancing his MVP odds, which.

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Speaker 4: Take the game in the middle. That would have been

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Speaker 3: He would have been like, oh, there's Matthew Stafford getting

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Speaker 3: them back in the conversation would have shifted again.

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Speaker 4: But as I told you, honestly, like I don't even

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Speaker 8: I care about the Pukakua catch, Dan, that was a catch,

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Speaker 8: for the sake of football.

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Speaker 4: That was a catch.

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Speaker 2: Moncey for some reason thinks it's a catch when the

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Speaker 2: defender jostles the ball from the receiver so they don't

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Speaker 2: get it, so they don't have possession for hot second.

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Speaker 2: He did it and not even But then your other

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Speaker 2: point was, but that's because the defender was fighting him, Yes,

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Speaker 2: was fighting him es so it should be a catch

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Speaker 2: because he.

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Speaker 4: Got it after for a hot second he didn't have.

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Speaker 8: It, but to like keep his legs in bound to

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Speaker 8: that's a catch.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't even close. There's there was a there was

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Speaker 4: It looked like it hit his form, which is even

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Speaker 4: And I don't even care.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Jason Stewart understands what you're saying. Jason, when you

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Speaker 9: It was an amazing catch that should have been featured

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Speaker 2: Now, it was called to catch on the field, so

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Speaker 2: it was replay that overturned it. Yes, so the issue

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Speaker 4: Yeah like slowing down anything.

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Speaker 3: You can make an argument for whatever side you want

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Speaker 10: Look we hear no possession next Ramna, I think you

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Speaker 9: I'm actually with you on the first one, Dan, and

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Speaker 3: I'm just gonna see this one more time because you're

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Speaker 3: you're making it seem like that. It was so clearly

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Speaker 2: There is a camera view where the football isn't touching

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Speaker 4: And how long in real time do you think that is?

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Speaker 4: Like if we're slowing it down, it seems like a lot.

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Speaker 2: But that that's how you right, that's a catch. He

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Speaker 2: has the ball, yes, but he doesn't complete the catch.

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Speaker 4: How he's bringing the ball in with his arm, that

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Speaker 4: is that is finishing the move.

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Speaker 2: Keep watching, keep watching.

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Speaker 9: I am.

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Speaker 4: He's trying to he has his arm on his hand

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Speaker 2: Act he still him from the football, so him. But

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Speaker 2: he didn't complete the catch because the catch wasn't completed.

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Speaker 2: Isac lohingcron watch that? Wait, Manzi's about to see the

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Speaker 2: ball come loose on this replay and there is there,

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Speaker 2: it goes, there, it goes. He pulled his arm away.

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Speaker 2: That's a good second.

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Speaker 4: But then it was still with him and when he fell,

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Speaker 4: he had the catch.

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Speaker 2: He had the ball, Isaac.

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Speaker 11: For first of all, Mancy, you need to start a

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Speaker 11: side hustle and work your way towards becoming an NFL referee,

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Speaker 11: because I want these Mancey explanations on the field as

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Speaker 11: an NFL referee. So I want you to repeat for me.

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Speaker 11: The play has been ruled a catch, even though he

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Speaker 11: bobbled it for a hot second first down. That would

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Speaker 11: add so much more enjoyment. Now here he ended up

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Speaker 11: with the ball. Here's the problem. By the letter of

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Speaker 11: the law in the rule book, a catch is defined,

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Speaker 11: among other things, as firm grasp and control.

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Speaker 4: He had it.

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Speaker 11: Now, there was a split second as he's coming down

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Speaker 11: a catch. Even though it walks like a catch, it

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Speaker 11: other thing to consider here is the ruling on the

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Speaker 11: field of that play initially after discussion was incomplete pass.

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Speaker 11: If the initial ruling on the field was completed catch,

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Speaker 11: is that enough to get an overturned because it has

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Speaker 11: to be clear and.

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Speaker 2: Ob I thought it was. I thought it was ruled complete.

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Speaker 2: I was.

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Speaker 4: I was thrown off when you said that.

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Speaker 3: But I also wasn't paying attention to that closely because

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Speaker 3: I was like, that's a catch. I thought it was

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Speaker 3: ruled incomplete.

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Speaker 9: In the moment one of the lines crew said it

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Speaker 9: and then they confer.

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Speaker 2: Yeah they did, So you are right, and looking at

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Speaker 2: the play by play, you're right it was ruled on

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Speaker 11: So if the initial ruling a catch, would it have

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Speaker 11: been enough to be overturned? Being clear and obvious.

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Speaker 2: This is this is why the NFL uses the terms

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Speaker 2: upheld so because it doesn't give you a way like

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Speaker 2: they'll overturn a call, or a call will be upheld.

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Speaker 2: They don't say that there was inconclusive evidence of a

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Speaker 2: certain way. They'll just say it was upheld. There may

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Speaker 2: they but they won't tell you if it's confirmation or

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Speaker 2: if it's inconclusive. They will tell you if the call

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Speaker 2: is overturned, but the upheld portion of it, they won't

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Speaker 2: tell you on why the call didn't change. That's their

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Speaker 2: kind of sneaky way of keeping things under wraps.

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Speaker 11: Sure.

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Speaker 2: I just think the Rams in that scenario, if they

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Speaker 2: really then with with nine seconds left, you know, throw

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Speaker 3: Doesn't right at that point, it's like making Allowing that

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Speaker 4: They still had to do something else. I just again again,

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Speaker 4: it was a cat.

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Speaker 2: rock and claiming that it's a rock from anthropology that

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Speaker 2: was six hundred dollars, and then you watch all the

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Speaker 2: old guys freak out that someone paid six hundred dollars

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Speaker 2: for a rock. That is what's in my algorithm right now.

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Speaker 4: I may have to go look at that. That sounds funny.

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Speaker 2: What's not in my algorithm is Tuesday morning quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Tuesday to kid, this is Tuesday morning quarterback in the afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Monday's can be overwhelming Tuesdays they're getting to whatever we

447
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Speaker 1: didn't get.

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Speaker 2: To on Monday.

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Speaker 1: This is Tuesday morning Quarterback in the afternoon.

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Speaker 2: All right, Jason Stewart's here as his Isaac Low and Crown,

451
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Speaker 2: Chris Perfett. She is Monte Bolanya. So I'm Dan Byer.

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Speaker 2: We hit on the things that maybe we missed or

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Speaker 2: maybe we left out and talking about the NFL in

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Speaker 2: Week seventeen on Monday, Jason, let's start with you. Week seventeen,

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Speaker 2: Tuesday morning, QB in the EM. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: anybody noticed this, but the Saints are on a heater.

457
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Speaker 2: They won four in a row, the New Orleans Saints.

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Speaker 9: Now this is a team and I'm gonna again, I

459
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Speaker 9: guess I'm throwing Dan under the bus, but I just

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Speaker 9: want to.

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Speaker 2: I want to.

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Speaker 9: I want to give it context by saying that Dan

463
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Speaker 9: Byer had said at one point in this Calenter year

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Speaker 9: that the Saints would probably be tanking for Arch Manning,

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Speaker 9: and we all know how that kind of went from there.

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Speaker 9: But anyways, the Saints are trying. Maybe they shouldn't be,

467
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Speaker 9: but they're trying, and they are at the helm of

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Speaker 9: that team is Kellen Moore. Could I give you a

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Speaker 9: brief history of Kellen Moore. Kellen Moore was like the hot,

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Speaker 9: sexy offensive coordinator of the Cowboys that was always looking

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Speaker 9: over the shoulder of Mike McCarthy. You remember in our

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Speaker 9: talk space, we'd be like, you got to hire Kellen Moore.

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Speaker 9: Macarthy's done, let's do that. And then he fell out

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Speaker 9: of favor with the Cowboys, and then the Chargers hired

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Speaker 9: him in that stupid year where they had Justin Herbert

476
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Speaker 9: in the final year of their rookie the deal and

477
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Speaker 9: Brandon Staley was given another chance and it was just

478
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Speaker 9: a wasted year. Kellen Moore submerging into irrelevance than the

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Speaker 9: Eagles ghetto. He wins a Super Bowl at the Eagles.

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Speaker 9: He's back and he's relevant.

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Speaker 2: Clean right through the car wash.

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Speaker 9: That's his first job with the Saints, and now he's

483
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Speaker 9: on a four game winning streak with a guy named

484
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Speaker 9: what Tyler Shuck? Yeah, who won my Buddies fantasy team.

485
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Speaker 9: He was on his Super Bowl fantasy team winning team yesterday.

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Speaker 9: Tyler Shuck was his quarterback. Believe it or not, Kellen Moore.

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Speaker 9: What a story in a story and a year of

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Speaker 9: head coaching successes, Kellen Moore is fine under the Raider.

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Speaker 9: I just wanted to bring spotlight to that.

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Speaker 2: It's a team that I thought, to Jason's point, was

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Speaker 2: gonna have the first overall pick, so much so I

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Speaker 2: put worst team. I put Saints on rist and they

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Speaker 2: have turned it around, and it has been with their

494
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Speaker 2: core and it hasn't been with someone like Alvin Kamara.

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Speaker 2: They're actually really depleted in the backfield, so there's Noel

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Speaker 2: Alvin Kamara. They lost Kendrew Miller. Devin Neil was a

497
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Speaker 2: guy that filled in for a little bit. Audre Estima

498
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Speaker 2: has been in for them lately. But that just tells

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Speaker 2: you on how it's been slim pickens for the Saints.

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Speaker 2: Yet Chris Olave has ended up being a star, and

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Speaker 2: I think that there is something to be said for

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Speaker 2: Kellen Moore. I can't remember Kellen Moore got a five

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Speaker 2: year contract or he got a six year contract for

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Speaker 2: the Saints, but I felt that his contract allowed him

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Speaker 2: to stink this year, you know where, like it's kind

506
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Speaker 2: of a yeah, an extra year. Yeah, and now they're

507
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Speaker 2: ahead of schedule and maybe, just maybe they found their

508
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Speaker 2: quarterback of the future.

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Speaker 3: And it's nice to see a team that is playing

510
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Speaker 3: for nothing still go out there and try to win.

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Speaker 3: And that's what the Saints have been doing for the

512
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Speaker 3: last several weeks. And Teyler Shook has how many games

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Speaker 3: over three hundred yards now in a short he's got

514
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Speaker 3: at least three.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, ask Jason, this was his this is his time

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Speaker 9: A number research that that that much I got as

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Speaker 9: far as Wikipedia, guys, I'm sorry, I'm out out of research.

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Speaker 2: This is a team that went on the road and

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Speaker 2: meet the Buccaneers now wins over the Jets and Titans.

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Speaker 2: May not be ones who want to write home about, however,

521
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Speaker 2: they're on your schedule right That's who's on your schedule,

522
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Speaker 2: and the Saints right now. I brought it up just

523
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Speaker 2: in passing yesterday, but depending on the Falcons situation of

524
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Speaker 2: the Falcons ended up winning last night, so they are

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Speaker 2: seven and nine. But there was a point in time

526
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Speaker 2: where the Saints, if certain things felled their way, actually

527
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Speaker 2: would have finished in second place in the NFC South

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Speaker 2: with tie breakers considering what would happen, which would mean

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Speaker 2: they then would have a second place schedule next year,

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Speaker 2: which they probably don't want. So they're probably glad that

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Speaker 2: Atlanta ended up winning. But yes, the Saints seemed to

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Speaker 2: be h on the uh one of the up and comers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they're figuring things out ahead of schedule.

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Speaker 2: Yes, can I go next? Just because it ke He

535
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Speaker 2: backs off of something that we talked about yesterday, I

536
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Speaker 2: felt in love and hate. There were about four All

537
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Speaker 2: we did was talk about the Chargers in that scenario.

538
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Speaker 2: But there's a bigger thing at stake here because we

539
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Speaker 2: talk a lot about the Bills, and I'm glad that

540
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Speaker 2: Mike Jones said what he said when he joined this

541
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Speaker 2: last hour was that Josh Allen the Bills are so

542
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Speaker 2: Josh Allen dependent that when Josh Allen isn't good, nothing

543
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Speaker 2: is there to save them. And that tells me that's

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Speaker 2: a bad job by the general manager. When you look

545
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Speaker 2: at the Chargers. What do we say about the Chargers?

546
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 2: We say injuries, bad luck, and that is all true

547
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Speaker 2: when it comes to your tackles, the health of Vershn Slater,

548
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Speaker 2: the health of Joe Waltz. Multiple times this season, hack

549
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Speaker 2: Omari and Hampton missed significant time. But the Chargers are

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Speaker 2: on a different clock. And this is what I've realized

551
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Speaker 2: in the last twenty four hours. Jason brought up the

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Speaker 2: point that Jim Harbaugh may be dealing with some of

553
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Speaker 2: the karma from the Michigan situation. Remember that, Jason, but

554
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Speaker 2: there's also something with Jim Harbaugh that Jim Harball only

555
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:10,160
Speaker 2: really has a certain window of thriving and then after

556
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 2: a while it's time to maybe move on. And you

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Speaker 2: may think that Jim Harbaugh new head coach of the Chargers, Well,

558
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 2: we're in year two. This thing is a six or

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00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,120
Speaker 2: seven year deal, so now a third of it is gone.

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Speaker 2: If you're like me and looking at the Bills, and

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of Bills fans are saying, like,

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Speaker 2: time's a waste in here. With Josh Allen, we're starting

563
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Speaker 2: to waste his years. I know what may be circumstance,

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Speaker 2: but it's just the fact I'm not saying that the

565
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Speaker 2: Chargers are wasting justin Herbert's years. What I'm saying is

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Speaker 2: you gotta start making hay now. And I think that

567
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Speaker 2: that's important for the Chargers team because I don't think

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Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh is going to be the head coach for

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Speaker 2: the next ten years. And so the window is now.

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Speaker 2: You're in the playoffs, you're competing, and I know you

571
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: don't have the pieces, but you better make the most

572
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Speaker 2: of it now. You'll hope that health can be on

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Speaker 2: your side next year because at some point history shows

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Speaker 2: us there's going to be a term.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean at least luckily for the Bills and

576
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Speaker 3: the Chargers, despite the holes, there is no dominant team, right,

577
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Speaker 3: So it's like you can still do this, you can

578
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Speaker 3: still find a way.

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Speaker 4: Even though you don't look as good as maybe you should.

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Speaker 2: Yes, what's your takeaway from week seventeen, But to your point,

581
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Speaker 2: real fast, at Jim Harbaugh, the way things end, it's

582
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Speaker 2: always messy.

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Speaker 9: He always there's always this massive ordeal that leaves a

584
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Speaker 9: lot of like casualties in their wake, like Sharon Moore

585
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Speaker 9: type casualties and programs and football teams. How it ended

586
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 9: with was that Trent Balki with the Niners was so ugly.

587
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 9: How it ended with Michigan was like grandiose ugly. So

588
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Speaker 9: it's like, you're right, you have this amazing time of

589
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Speaker 9: him thriving and then things are going to go south

590
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Speaker 9: for whatever reason. I don't know what that'll be, but

591
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Speaker 9: it's never it's always like awful at the end.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And I think that that unfortunate only charge your

593
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 2: fans have to brace for it, and it make them

594
00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 2: sooner rather than later, all right, Maazi.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yesterday, you know, we did a lot of talking

596
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Speaker 3: about the forty nine Ers and brock Purty in that

597
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Speaker 3: game and all that, and I just feel like because

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Speaker 3: they lost and because Brock Purty was so awesome, Caleb

599
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Speaker 3: Williams kind of went.

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Speaker 4: Under the radar.

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Speaker 3: And he also had he did his part against you know,

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Speaker 3: the forty nine ers and what he had to do,

603
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Speaker 3: and not just that, Like, I feel like Caleb Williams

604
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Speaker 3: had so much attention on him his rookie year, and

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Speaker 3: not good attention.

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Speaker 4: He had a lot of negative attention.

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Speaker 3: And for the Bears to come into a division where

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Speaker 3: I don't think anyone expected the Bears to win the

609
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Speaker 3: division the way that they have.

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Speaker 4: I know they they didn't play the best teams. I

611
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Speaker 4: don't care about that.

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Speaker 3: You have to play who you have to play, right,

613
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Speaker 3: but to come out and be on top of the

614
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Speaker 3: NFC North in their very first year with a new coach,

615
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Speaker 3: with Caleb Williams who has so much negative attention surrounding

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Speaker 3: him for stupid reason.

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Speaker 4: I like Caleb Williams. I am just like.

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Speaker 3: They also are on a trajectory ahead of schedule, figuring

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Speaker 3: things out.

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Speaker 4: Again, no dominant team Chicago can win this.

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Speaker 2: That's scary.

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Speaker 4: It's scary they can win this.

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Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, I think, And you're right, about that,

624
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Speaker 2: like they had a signature win, and their signature win

625
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Speaker 2: was a standalone game. Then nobody remembers because it was

626
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Speaker 2: Black Friday. They kicked the crap out of the Eagles,

627
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Speaker 2: like they did. They they ran over them at two

628
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Speaker 2: one underd yard rushers of leave that game. So when

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Speaker 2: you had DeAndre Swift and kalaman Ungai giving you a

630
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Speaker 2: run game, giving Caleb Williams a run game, yeah, it

631
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Speaker 2: proves the difference. And you know what, Monzi to your point,

632
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Speaker 2: Romo Dunze hasn't been healthy the last couple of weeks,

633
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Speaker 2: so they've been doing it even without a full compliment

634
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Speaker 2: of Kaileb, Williams's favorite receiver.

635
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a rotating cast for him because of injuries,

636
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Speaker 3: and they're figuring it out and winning convincingly in the

637
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Speaker 3: later half of the season. Didn't start that way, but

638
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Speaker 3: that's not how you you don't want to start and

639
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 3: look at the Bucks starting hot, falling off. It started

640
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 3: slow for the Bears and now they're hot, just the.

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00:31:04,040 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 4: Way you'd want it.

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Speaker 2: Do you think people will warm to the Bears because

643
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: they are a new kid on the block. If you will,

644
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 2: If you look at the NFC playoff picture. I have

645
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 2: a tough time thinking that people will just because of

646
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Speaker 2: the Bears. I think, I know Chris Profest's answer.

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Speaker 4: Is it the history of the Bears.

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Speaker 12: Yeah?

649
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's some Chicago gruff to it as well, like

650
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 2: they're not the Bears.

651
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Speaker 9: And I don't think Caleb Williams is easy to like.

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Speaker 9: I don't think Ben Johnson is easy to Yeah, if

653
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Speaker 9: they're your guys, maybe, but yeah, it's not an easy

654
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Speaker 9: team to wrap your hands around.

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Speaker 4: I just think there are worse ones.

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Speaker 3: I get what you're saying, and I think part of

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Speaker 3: the reason I'm so shocked about this is because I

658
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Speaker 3: think at the start of the season, I said, I

659
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Speaker 3: don't know how those two are going to get along.

660
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Speaker 3: They both seem like they would not get along.

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Speaker 2: Who's more likable? The eighty five Bears are the twenty

662
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Speaker 2: twenty five Bears. The eighty five Bears were way more

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Speaker 2: dominant than I think that they're way more likable. I

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Speaker 2: think they had a song, Yeah, I literally had a

665
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Speaker 2: song broke it down. Yeah, Yessa wats he didn't know

666
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Speaker 2: any of the verses? No, still don't what he didn't

667
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Speaker 2: learn anything from that segment.

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Speaker 4: No, the fact that I got most of them wrong,

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Speaker 4: just shows how I was.

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Speaker 3: I was not on the on the right train of

671
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Speaker 3: thought as that song, Oh is it Glowing Crown?

672
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Speaker 2: What stood out for you from week seventeen?

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Speaker 11: We interrupt for a brief pop quiz. I want you

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Speaker 11: to identify this person.

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Speaker 2: However, I did invent almost like a mindset or a

676
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Speaker 2: strategy for thinking, and it has helped me so much.

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Speaker 4: Who was that Peltrow?

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 11: I'll give you a hint. You talked about that person

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Speaker 11: this segment.

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Speaker 12: Is it?

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Speaker 2: Is it a Sloan Alex Yes, by the way, shout

683
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Speaker 2: out to Meet Canyon. It's his birthday. He's thirty two,

684
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Speaker 2: a YouTube star, Meet Canyon, Meet can't it's all one word,

685
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Speaker 2: but he shares the birthday with Sloan Alex, Meet Kenyon,

686
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Speaker 2: fifteen ahead of R and B Singer.

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Speaker 11: So is that these are people that our society values

688
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Speaker 11: more than Sandy Kofax. I'd like to go on the

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Speaker 11: record as saying I wish when I turned fifty I

690
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Speaker 11: look a third as good as Sandy Kofax still does

691
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Speaker 11: at the age of ninety. Unreal, that's one of the

692
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Speaker 11: most underreported stories in overall sports it's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Is Sandy Kofax hot?

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Speaker 9: Yes? Yes, yes, hot? I mean you see the guy

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Speaker 9: at Dodger Stadium.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and just always a pleasure. You would not know

697
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Speaker 4: he's ninety even having just a conversation with him.

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Speaker 11: He looks so young does and.

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Speaker 4: He's still there mentally like that's what's the best part

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Speaker 4: about him.

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Speaker 11: Yes, I wish I would also be there mentally as

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Speaker 11: much when I'm fifty as he ninety. All right, So

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Speaker 11: my take on the underreported deal and the context is

704
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Speaker 11: the potential future. What happened with Max Crosby and the Raiders.

705
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Speaker 11: So Jay Glazer reports they're going to shut him down

706
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Speaker 11: for the rest of the season, and he disagrees, he

707
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Speaker 11: leaves the facility. Pete Carroll says all the right things,

708
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Speaker 11: which I think were the right things. I think they

709
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Speaker 11: were genuine with his statements. But then he posts a

710
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Speaker 11: video of himself playing basketball on social media, something that

711
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Speaker 11: he's not really known for doing, sending those Lebron like messages.

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Speaker 11: I think a sneaky big story right now is next season,

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Speaker 11: where's Max Crosby going to be? Because some contending team

714
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Speaker 11: out there could wind up with a hell of an

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Speaker 11: acquisition could we see. I mean, what would happen if

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Speaker 11: Max Crosby wound up next season with the Cowboys or

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Speaker 11: with the Bears, etc.

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Speaker 2: Etc.

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Speaker 11: So I think that's a sneaky under the radar thing

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Speaker 11: going on right now.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you one of those etcs is also the Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: The Seahawks the thought to be attacked. Absolutely, John Schouder

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be shy to be to bring in Max Crosby.

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Speaker 9: Yes, my take away on this whole story was the

725
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Speaker 9: perception of Pete Carroll. You're seeing more more stories week

726
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Speaker 9: out about how he's probably not going to be brought back.

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Speaker 9: That would make like what the six head coach and

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Speaker 9: five years for the Raiders. But I think that if

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Speaker 9: Pete Carroll gives in the Max this week and plays

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Speaker 9: them on Sunday, I think that'll be proof that Pete

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Speaker 9: Carroll officially is done. I would lose respect for him.

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Speaker 2: If he didn't. You should play him at quarterback. That's

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Speaker 2: what we really need. Max Crosby under center against the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: That's what I need to see on Sunday. I would

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Speaker 2: watch that more than half the other crap games they're

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Speaker 2: putting up at one o'clock. Eastern Time. Chris Purphett, what

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Speaker 2: stood up for you from week seventeen.

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Speaker 13: I'm just gonna throw out real quick though, Max Crosby,

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Speaker 13: Michigan native, just to put that in everyone's mind a

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Speaker 13: little bit to Michigan.

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Speaker 2: The one.

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Speaker 13: I'm just about to talk about the Detroit Lions. Let's

743
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Speaker 13: talk about the Lions. I know they played on Thursday

744
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Speaker 13: and it was a game that probably sealed a lot

745
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Speaker 13: of bad stuff. Five turnovers for Jared Goff I believe,

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Speaker 13: two interceptions, three fumbles. Coming out today Tuesday, Dan Campbell

747
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Speaker 13: says that Jared Goff is quote going nowhere as the

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Speaker 13: Lions quarterback. Not in that yes, there's multiple ways double

749
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Speaker 13: on Tandra that we could take there, but more on

750
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Speaker 13: the positive side of that, that he intends for him

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Speaker 13: to be the quarterback, you know, continuing into the future.

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Speaker 13: And I've I've got a question that, like Goff, it

753
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Speaker 13: gets to be a really He's so frustrating to talk

754
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Speaker 13: about because on one hand, we can talk about the efficiency,

755
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 13: we can talk about sixty eight percent completing passes, the

756
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Speaker 13: four two hundred yards. Everything's like set up for him

757
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Speaker 13: to do well in Detroit, and yet when the wheels

758
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 13: fall off. They really fall off for Jared Goff and

759
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Speaker 13: he took a career high thirty six sacks this season.

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Speaker 13: And I know, and I was talking with Ricky before

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Speaker 13: the show about this, and yeah, I'm gonna just get.

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Speaker 2: Ricky on Joe Martin.

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Speaker 13: Ricky Martin, Ricky Herrera, Ricky herrere the sound guy around

764
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Speaker 13: here that makes all the lovely, makes everyone sound lovely.

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Speaker 13: Ricky brought up this and I agree with him, Like,

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Speaker 13: I think we dismissed a little bit too much of

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Speaker 13: what the Lions looked like, how Goff looked liked in

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Speaker 13: that first game against the Packers, because then they went

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Speaker 13: out the next week and hung fifty on the Bears,

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Speaker 13: and it all came crashing back for the Lions, and

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Speaker 13: like as we talk about, the Bears are now ascendant,

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Speaker 13: the Packers now have Micah Parsons. This division's going to

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Speaker 13: be incredibly tough for a long time to come. I

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Speaker 13: don't think the Lions lost everything when Ben Johnson went away,

775
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Speaker 13: but they have, even under Ben Johnson, tailored everything to

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Speaker 13: have Jared Goff be as comfortable as possible. And yet

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Speaker 13: the Jared Goff meltdown games seem to be getting more

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Speaker 13: and more common, and I do wonder moving into the

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Speaker 13: future for the Lions. I know they're committed to him

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Speaker 13: right now, but you've got an out I think after

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Speaker 13: in two years or so.

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Speaker 9: I don't know when the.

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Speaker 13: Future quarterback that you developed behind Goff is, but I

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Speaker 13: would stop thinking about Jared Goff as a long term

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Speaker 13: quarterback because of these kind of games, because if he's

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Speaker 13: not if he's off his game, nothing works for Detroit's offense,

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Speaker 13: for that high flying, prolific offense with all their talent.

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Speaker 13: I know they have a lot of injuries this year,

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Speaker 13: but it stops working when Goss stops working.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's probably gonna be sooner rather than later.

791
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Speaker 2: And it didn't work behind a beat up offensive line

792
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Speaker 2: this year. A lot to fix in Detroit, both on

793
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Speaker 2: the defensive side of the ball on the offensive side

794
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Speaker 2: of the ball. You're gonna need someone at that quarterback

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Speaker 2: position to cover up some of the warts that you

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Speaker 2: have because you can't fix everything in one offseason. There

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Speaker 2: it is your Tuesday morning quarterback in the afternoon.

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Speaker 13: Tuesday Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Here you have it, your Tuesday morning quarterback in the afternoon.

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Speaker 1: On the Doug Gottlin Show.

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Speaker 2: I thought Ricky Herrera just changed his name to a

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Speaker 2: one name, like he just like Madonna share CEO. That

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Speaker 2: would now it's like big mic He's just only Ricky.

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Speaker 2: But that's two words. This is just Ricky Ricky. Everyone

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Speaker 2: knows who Ricky Schroeder Silverspoon. Don't see a lot of

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Speaker 2: rickeys these days.

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Speaker 2: Mike Jones, covering the NFL for the Athletic, joins us

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Speaker 2: on New Year's Eve Eve, talking all things NFL. Mike,

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Speaker 2: First of all, Happy New Year, Thanks for the tome.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you coming on. How are you doing today?

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Speaker 12: I'm doing well. How are you guys doing?

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Speaker 2: We are doing great, but we are debating the happenings

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Speaker 2: last night in Atlanta, pass interference or not? Do you

822
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Speaker 2: think that occurred on the two to two at well

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Speaker 2: long incompletion at the end of last night's game between

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Speaker 2: the Falcons and Rams. Manzi's on one side, I'm on

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Speaker 2: the other. Settle the debate, Mic, Oh.

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Speaker 12: That was one hundred percent past in appearance? Well, they you,

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Speaker 12: I mean he freaking grabbed his arm. He couldn't bring

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Speaker 12: his arm up there to make the catch. He was

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Speaker 12: having to do it one handed. There was initially some

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Speaker 12: mutual hand fighting, but then the second dab of the

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Speaker 12: arm by the defensive back, he really did grab his

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Speaker 12: arm and if he had not, he would have made

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Speaker 12: that catch. They would have been lined up for a

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Speaker 12: field goal or even maybe a touchdown. So yeah, I

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Speaker 12: agree with you. It was definitely past an appearance.

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Speaker 8: And what about that puukin Akua catch? Wasn't that a

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Speaker 8: catch for the sake of the NFL?

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Speaker 4: In football? Wasn't that a catch?

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Speaker 10: Well?

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Speaker 12: Okay, that one there, it looked like it. Then the

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Speaker 12: last camera angle they showed, they did show the ball

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Speaker 12: move around. Now, it didn't touch the ground, but it

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Speaker 12: can't be moving. It had to have been secured since

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Speaker 12: he landed at a bound it could not have moved.

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Speaker 12: If it had have moved, not moved at all, and

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Speaker 12: he landed on the ground, it would have been, you know,

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Speaker 12: a catch. But because as he kind of twisted the

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Speaker 12: ball did move around a little bit that it got

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Speaker 12: it wrong. But it was beautiful. It should have counted,

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Speaker 12: but it definitely was seemed. It was accurately deemed incomplete.

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Speaker 3: Well, on a serious note, what do you make of

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Speaker 3: the MVP uh for the NFL and the shift in

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Speaker 3: the middle of the game where Drake May now is

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Speaker 3: favored to win the MVP over Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, you know, I mean I guess that if the

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Speaker 12: Rams had won that and maybe Stafford directed the game

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Speaker 12: winning drive, maybe he wouldn't have had that shift. I myself,

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Speaker 12: I get it. Drake May has been, you know, fantastic.

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Speaker 12: I think a lot of their improvement has to do

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Speaker 12: more with Mike Grabel, even though you know, Drake May

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Speaker 12: has been fantastic. I think Christian McCaffrey is being overlooked

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Speaker 12: and it's just the nature of the business for you know,

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Speaker 12: whatever reason. We only talk about quarterbacks with the MVP,

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Speaker 12: and I know it's the most important position, but Christian

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Speaker 12: McCaffrey has been such a weapon running the ball, catching

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Speaker 12: the ball, keeping that offensive float even when they didn't

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Speaker 12: have their starting quarterback. They don't have their starting wide

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Speaker 12: receiver lots of times and he's been amazing. But he's

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Speaker 12: gonna get overlooked, and it's gonna wind up being Drake

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Speaker 12: may or Matthew Stafford, but probably may.

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Speaker 2: Mike Jones joining us here on Fox Sports Radio covering

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Speaker 2: the NFL for the Athletic. Find him on ex at

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Speaker 2: by Mike Jones. She's Monty Belaanios. I'm Dan Byer. Before

874
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: we look ahead to week eighteen, just something else from

875
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 2: week seventeen. You know, the Bills don't get the two

876
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 2: point conversion against Philadelphia, end up dropping that game in

877
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 2: what was a funky game all around for so many reasons.

878
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 2: But why is Buffalo so inconsistent? Why have they not just?

879
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 2: I mean they're streaky is a nice way of putting it.

880
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 2: I guess inconsistent is the glass half empty way of

881
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 2: putting it. But what is going down? With going on

882
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: with these up and down Bills?

883
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 12: Well, I think the biggest problem is they are so

884
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 12: Josh Allen depended. You know, everybody's gonna have an off

885
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 12: game here and there. They don't have anybody capable of

886
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 12: kind of taking up the slack for him. Yes, they

887
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 12: have James Cook and you know, and he you know,

888
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 12: is a dynamic running back, but none of his wide

889
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 12: receivers can win one on one matchup. There's nobody that. Okay,

890
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 12: Josh Allen just needs to be able to throw up

891
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,960
Speaker 12: a jump ball and know that his guy's gonna snatch

892
00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 12: it out of the air like Matthew Stafford does with

893
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,719
Speaker 12: Puka or with DeVante Adams. They don't have anybody like

894
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:30,680
Speaker 12: that in Buffalo. And so when Josh Allen's just a

895
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 12: little bit off, then the whole team is off. Then

896
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 12: the whole offense, you know, is sputtering. And you know,

897
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 12: we saw him sometimes when he gets in that mode,

898
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 12: he tries to do too much and then he gets

899
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 12: himself into trouble and had that fumble that really led

900
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 12: to that one, uh, you know, the the touchdowns for Philly.

901
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 12: So that's the biggest problem with them, And I you know,

902
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,959
Speaker 12: I feel like one hand that the path has opened

903
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 12: up for him to maybe get that Super Bowl with

904
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 12: Patrick Mahomes out of the way and maybe Lamar Jackson

905
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 12: out of the way, But the same time, they're so

906
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,799
Speaker 12: inconsistent everything around him that I just don't know they

907
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 12: have enough to win a super Bowl.

908
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 3: Let's move on to that game in Baltimore between the

909
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:10,800
Speaker 3: Ravens and the Steelers fighting for the division.

910
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 4: Is there a coach really on the hot seat? And

911
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 4: who do you think as the edge?

912
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 12: You know, it's really hard to say whether or not

913
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 12: Mike Tomlin or John Harball is on the hot seat.

914
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 12: Both of them really well respected. They've had a lot

915
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 12: of success, but then when they get to the postseason

916
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 12: that success has been It's been a long time, I think,

917
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:39,320
Speaker 12: you know, it's been something like eighteen years for Tomlin

918
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,719
Speaker 12: and maybe thirteen years for Harball. Would I be surprised

919
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 12: if one of those teams decided to mutually part ways

920
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 12: and the coach, you know, wanted to change the scenery. Know,

921
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 12: are either one of them deserving of being fired? I

922
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:57,840
Speaker 12: don't think so when you look at their problems compared

923
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 12: to a lot of the other teams. I mean, take

924
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 12: Washington just right down the road from Baltimore. They would

925
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 12: love it if they could get to the playoffs and

926
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 12: win a game and then be done or even make

927
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:12,880
Speaker 12: the playoffs consistently, you know, you know, and have the

928
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 12: type of problems that Baltimore has. There's a lot of

929
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 12: teams in worst shape. The stability is something that you know,

930
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 12: once he's gone, you know, can you duplicate it? Is

931
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 12: it something like you're going to bring in somebody? And

932
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 12: we saw when Bill Belichick left with Garrod Mayo it

933
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 12: was disastrous, But maybe quickly you can have somebody turning

934
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 12: around like we saw with Mike brabil But that's a

935
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 12: big gamble. So I don't know, they better be very

936
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 12: sure that they have a sound candidate to take the

937
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 12: place of one of those two coaches that are gonna

938
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 12: wind up being Hall of Fame coaches.

939
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 2: One day, Mike Jones covers the NFL for the Athletic

940
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. The crazy thing

941
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 2: about the Ravens thing to me, Mike, and I don't

942
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 2: know if this is what you've heard in your circles

943
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 2: through all time, but there seemed to be an attack

944
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: on Harbaugh and maybe John Harbaugh is not long for

945
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 2: the job. And then there seemed to be this counter

946
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 2: attack in saying Lamar Jackson isn't is falling asleep in meetings.

947
00:46:12,280 --> 00:46:15,480
Speaker 2: He's wants practice in the afternoon, so he gets his

948
00:46:15,560 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 2: way that way. It felt like these stories were being

949
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:23,080
Speaker 2: put out there in a very convenient manner. Were there rumblings,

950
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,200
Speaker 2: Are there rumblings that there's a disconnect between John Harbaugh

951
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:27,719
Speaker 2: and Lamar Jackson and Baltimore.

952
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 12: I hadn't heard that, none of the stuff that came

953
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 12: out until they are on the ropes and their season

954
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 12: is you know, Lamar is injured and they don't know,

955
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 12: you know, if they're going to be able to make

956
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 12: the playoffs. And it's amazing because really, when you think

957
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:47,279
Speaker 12: about Lamar Jackson's one of the most talented quarterbacks of

958
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 12: his generations. He's just not healthy. And it's just quite

959
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:55,359
Speaker 12: interesting that now that he's having a down year can't

960
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,040
Speaker 12: stay healthy, that all of a sudden there are these

961
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 12: problems that are coming out that had ever been the

962
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:03,920
Speaker 12: case with them. I'm not saying that's not true, but

963
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 12: it's funny when you're winning, then maybe he kind of

964
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 12: looked the other way when there's some transgressions and now

965
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 12: that he's not on the field, they're frustrations. And it

966
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 12: did seem like there was kind of like this volley

967
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 12: back and forth between camps, and so it's going to

968
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,240
Speaker 12: be interesting to see where.

969
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:20,680
Speaker 13: It goes with that.

970
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:25,320
Speaker 12: Obviously, there are two very huge instrumental figures in that

971
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:31,160
Speaker 12: organization to their success. You know, is it something where

972
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 12: Baltimore feels like they can have not as dramatic a

973
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 12: drop off and may be able to, you know, have

974
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 12: other areas elevate to make up for what you lose

975
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,640
Speaker 12: with Lamar Jackson. I don't know, but again, he means

976
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 12: a lot to that city. There are many many teams

977
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 12: that would line up and fork over a lot of

978
00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 12: draft sticks that they heard that he was on the market.

979
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 2: Mike Jones joining us here on Fox Sports Radio, last

980
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 2: one before we let you go. In less than a week,

981
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 2: Black Monday comes a calling. If you could estimate how

982
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 2: many teams do you think could have vacancies after the

983
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 2: end of the regular season with their head coaching jobs?

984
00:48:10,920 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 12: Okay, well, we already know that the Giants and the

985
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 12: Titans they're gonna have vacancy. The Raiders might as well.

986
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 12: I wouldn't be surprised if Arizona is another one. You know.

987
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 12: I know that they've had some injuries and the Kyler

988
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 12: Murray thing. You know, but you know, so that's four

989
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:33,960
Speaker 12: right there. There's going to be a surprise when somewhere,

990
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 12: So I think five coaching vacancies feels about right.

991
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 2: Would Aaron Glenn be a surprise to you?

992
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:47,200
Speaker 12: Supposedly he has supportive ownership, and I think that for them,

993
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,600
Speaker 12: they think about public perception. If they fired him after

994
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 12: just one year, then there's gonna be all these criticisms.

995
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:57,279
Speaker 12: So I think that they would probably be patient, give

996
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 12: him at least one more year before they pulled the play.

997
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, we shall see this Black Monday now less

998
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 2: than a week away. Mike. We appreciate the time. Happy

999
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 2: New Year, love to talk football with you. You're welcome

1000
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,959
Speaker 2: back anytime. Appreciate it all right.

1001
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 12: Thanks for having me. Happy New Year if you all.

1002
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 2: Thanks Mike, Mike Jones the Athletic find them at buy

1003
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 2: Mike Jones on X. I think MONTI thinks that's good news.

1004
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 3: Yes, it looked bad. It was a scary moment. For

1005
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:24,400
Speaker 3: a second, I thought it was a non contact, but

1006
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 3: then you saw his own team. It kind of did

1007
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 3: get into him, and I think maybe he tried to

1008
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 3: avoid it and then his knee just went away.

1009
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 4: It wasn't supposed to. So I really thought it was

1010
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 4: going to be like done for you know ya, not

1011
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:35,959
Speaker 4: just four weeks.

1012
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:39,239
Speaker 2: So best case scenario, speaking of done, Philip Rivers, done

1013
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 2: with the Colts, Riley Leonard's going to get this start.

1014
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 2: What a run it was, truly was we fan. We

1015
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 2: gave Philip Rivers quite the send off last week, and

1016
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 2: he gave us bonus time. He gave us one more

1017
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:57,160
Speaker 2: go around, and that's all we can ask. Not being greedy, no, right, yeah,

1018
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: we got what we wanted. We got more than two,

1019
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 2: got three. We're just not going to get four. Jason Stewart,

1020
00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah no.

1021
00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 9: And Ryan Berschinger put together a nice send off package,

1022
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 9: put a lot of work into it. It ended up

1023
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:11,400
Speaker 9: being a little premature. But I do also want to

1024
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 9: think that maybe he was listening to that segment and

1025
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 9: he said, I need I'm not done.

1026
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:17,479
Speaker 2: I'm not done.

1027
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,439
Speaker 9: I'm not going to end it with a pick six,

1028
00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:22,360
Speaker 9: I think is what bursch added in the highlight package.

1029
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 2: The Colts had a two to three percent chance of

1030
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 2: making the playoffs entering their game against Jacksonville, and then

1031
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:32,279
Speaker 2: when the Texans won on Saturday, before they even took

1032
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,960
Speaker 2: the field, they were eliminated. So the catch for the

1033
00:50:36,040 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: Colts was, you want to get a look at Riley Leonard,

1034
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 2: but you've now prepped all week with Philip Rivers as

1035
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 2: your starter. I'm happy when we gave Philip his sendoff.

1036
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have wanted to be I'd rather be early

1037
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 2: rather than late on it. But I think we did

1038
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 2: well with the cult signal caller and he added value.

1039
00:50:52,719 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 2: And I know the game meant something to Jacksonville, so

1040
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 2: there was something to it. But he added value into

1041
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 2: what could have been a meaningless game and really made

1042
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks pretty exciting. Like there's this

1043
00:51:04,440 --> 00:51:07,359
Speaker 2: I feel everything in the NFL could be jaded by

1044
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:10,839
Speaker 2: your fantasy team, by your bets, by your rivalries, whatever

1045
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 2: the case is. But he just brought good, wholesome fun

1046
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 2: to the rodeo.

1047
00:51:15,000 --> 00:51:17,400
Speaker 9: Our boss, Scott Shapiro, it seems like he goes to

1048
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 9: a fantasy camp every year, right, is it the Twins?

1049
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:20,080
Speaker 2: Yes?

1050
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 9: And like the Philip Rivers thing was all of us

1051
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 9: being able to see somebody in real time like do

1052
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 9: a fantasy camp, like just on TV, doing fantasy camp

1053
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 9: at the highest level. It was pretty amazing.

1054
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:34,240
Speaker 2: It was a lot of fun in Isaac's case yesterday,

1055
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 2: something I agree with. I think this helps his Hall

1056
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 2: of Fame candidacy. But the Riley Leonard era will at

1057
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 2: least last one week as a starter.

1058
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 4: You know that decision.

1059
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,960
Speaker 3: I know was in the slim hopes of still making

1060
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 3: the playoffs, but I feel like that decision was really

1061
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 3: big for the fans, Like you had such a good

1062
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 3: start to the season and everything just kind of slipped

1063
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 3: away from your fingers.

1064
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 4: At least they that, you know what I'm saying.

1065
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 3: I know you brought him in because you thought was

1066
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,400
Speaker 3: a fighting chance, but I have to believe that you

1067
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 3: also brought him in to give something for the fans

1068
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 3: in the final games of the season, you know what

1069
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like, because then you're gonna show up and

1070
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 3: watch just your team get crushed. Like at least you

1071
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,439
Speaker 3: get to watch Philip Rivers and maybe see some something.

1072
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,759
Speaker 2: The funny thing, I was here on Sunday when the

1073
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 2: Colts were at the end of the game against the

1074
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 2: Jaguars and they needed to throw up a hail Mary.

1075
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 2: People around here were going nuts. They're like, you can't

1076
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 2: even throw a hail Mary. Yeah, New Slash, he couldn't

1077
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 2: five years ago. They took him out of the game

1078
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 2: five years ago when he was in the league and

1079
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 2: had Jacobe Brissett I believe come in and end up

1080
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 2: handling those duties. But Rivers couldn't do it then, couldn't

1081
00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: do it this past weekend. But nobody cares.