Speaker 1: On the Bedel Cast, the questions asked if movies have
Speaker 1: women in them, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands,
Speaker 1: or do they have individualism the patriarchy? Zef and best
Speaker 1: start changing it with the Bechdel Cast. Hello Beckdel Cast listeners. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's us and we are bringing you a live show
Speaker 1: that we recorded. Wow. I think those are very pragmatic.
Speaker 1: Intro to the episode. Here's our dot MP three that
Speaker 1: we recorded in front of a bunch of people. Now
Speaker 1: we're this is the very very beginning of our most
Speaker 1: recent tour. Started it at home base in Los Angeles
Speaker 1: at the Allegian Theater. Ever heard of it? Ever heard
Speaker 1: of it? Of either? And we wanted to start with
Speaker 1: a fun, popularly requested episode with a fun, popularly requested guest,
Speaker 1: And so that's why we covered a goofy movie with
Speaker 1: fan favorite, our favorite, Danny fernand That's true. So for
Speaker 1: the next hour or so, you'll hear that show that
Speaker 1: we recorded live, and then you'll hear a conversation we
Speaker 1: had with another special guest, laurn Reritis, where we talk
Speaker 1: about more goofy movie things. So that's all in store
Speaker 1: for you. Wow, what a treat. Yeah, yeah. So we
Speaker 1: have a little bit on stage, a little bit of offstage,
Speaker 1: and there's more tour episodes to come. We're gonna be
Speaker 1: kind of sprinkling them in. And so again, if you're
Speaker 1: at this show, or if you are at any of
Speaker 1: our tour shows, thank you for coming. We had such
Speaker 1: a great time doing this, and we're gonna be doing
Speaker 1: more at a date, at on a date, at a time,
Speaker 1: at a place any day now. So it could happen
Speaker 1: at any moment. We could at least expect it. What
Speaker 1: if we started doing living room shows? That is like,
Speaker 1: I like that in theory, but I we'll never do
Speaker 1: I would not do one. No, that does not sound
Speaker 1: like a great idea for us. With all due respect,
Speaker 1: I don't want to come over, but this is here's
Speaker 1: a theater show. Enjoy cast. Welcome to the Bechtel Cast.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming, everybody. And I'd be honest,
Speaker 1: I really thought you were going to start with like
Speaker 1: a really like light sexy a hook. I'm gonna be like, babe, yuck. No,
Speaker 1: you know that that exists in cartoon porn. You know
Speaker 1: it does? Yeah, oh my god, A hook, like I
Speaker 1: promise that's the first time I've ever thought that too
Speaker 1: early in the show. Okay, welcome to the Bechtel Cast.
Speaker 1: We should say her name. Yes, I'm Caitlin Dronte. I'm
Speaker 1: Jamie Loftus and and this is our podcast about your
Speaker 1: favorite movies. Yeah. We just were on a road trip
Speaker 1: for like two weeks to get to LA and now
Speaker 1: we're here. Yeah, I was driving. I kind of Actually
Speaker 1: you were bothered by how Goofy drives. And I don't
Speaker 1: have a driver's license, and I'm like, what's the problem.
Speaker 1: Seems like he gets to where he's going. Doesn't seem
Speaker 1: to be an issue. I've failed the driver's test three times.
Speaker 1: He thank you, Thank you for your support. I'll never learn.
Speaker 1: I think I think he killed at least two construction workers.
Speaker 1: He drove into an active construction site, and the opportunity
Speaker 1: was there for him to kill a cop, and he didn't.
Speaker 1: And that is and that's that's a Disney issue. Is Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're obsessed with cop It's just there were so many
Speaker 1: opportunities to kill a cop, but instead they killed him
Speaker 1: on the purest art form there. Well, this is the
Speaker 1: Bechdel Cast. Thank you for being here. Give it up.
Speaker 1: If you've been to one of our live shows before.
Speaker 1: Oh give it up. This is your first live show. Wow,
Speaker 1: pretty exciting. This is so exciting. Um. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: guess you probably don't know that we either do weird
Speaker 1: causeplay or that. For example, I gave Jamie a lap
Speaker 1: dance on this very stage for the Magic Mic live
Speaker 1: show we do. I was hoping you wouldn't say the
Speaker 1: movie and then I would get to be like, and
Speaker 1: it's weird because we were covering Cinderella. They just kind
Speaker 1: of started doing it and we rolled with it. No,
Speaker 1: So anyway, I am. I do feel the need to
Speaker 1: call attention to the fact that I am causplaying as
Speaker 1: Max goof Yes Time, Yes Yes, And Jamie don't wear
Speaker 1: a T shirt with the movie poster, which is not
Speaker 1: no effort, thank you very much. I went out of
Speaker 1: my way to order this one day ago. So no,
Speaker 1: we're doing great. Oh my god, Okay, look we're fighting.
Speaker 1: Um No, it seems like you wanted me to compliment
Speaker 1: your outfits. I was going to it looks really good.
Speaker 1: And also you pointed this out before we drove here,
Speaker 1: before you I don't have a driver's loss, Caitlin drove here,
Speaker 1: and that you bought a sweatshirt and defaced it to
Speaker 1: I think you should keep wearing it like that. It
Speaker 1: worked for him, that's true. He got the girl of
Speaker 1: his dreams, you know, the girl with no personality. We'll
Speaker 1: get there, we'll get there, and I know that. That's
Speaker 1: I know. Sean's fired already and people are upset with
Speaker 1: me and the right to be Um, real quick, who
Speaker 1: has seen a Goofy movie? Is there anyone who hasn't
Speaker 1: seen it? One for hers, the few, the prad you what,
Speaker 1: how did you? It's like seventy minutes long, it's on
Speaker 1: Disney Plus. What are you talking about? Look, it's it's fine.
Speaker 1: We it's um. It's a beautiful and uncomplicated text. My recap, yes,
Speaker 1: the famous recap, which we're about to do. But first
Speaker 1: we have to bring out our guests. Yes, Oh, we're
Speaker 1: so excited to bring this guest back. We have had
Speaker 1: her on many times, um, and I believe this is
Speaker 1: like the fourth time, fourth time, approaching the five appearance
Speaker 1: Letterman jacket, Yes, exactly. She's a writer and actress. She
Speaker 1: was a writer for Girls on the Bus for HBO,
Speaker 1: Max and Harley Quinn and Poison Ivy for DC. Comics.
Speaker 1: It's Danny Fernandez. What hello, Hi, hi friends. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: this is awkward. I'm way too short. Holy shit, I
Speaker 1: do not touch the ground. Wow, it must be this
Speaker 1: tall to ride. Okay, okay, So for the one person
Speaker 1: in the audience who has not seen a Goofy movie,
Speaker 1: could you take out of it? Oh? Um? Oh no,
Speaker 1: this is just nineties. This is literally not in the film.
Speaker 1: It feels power line adjacent could have worn it. Yes,
Speaker 1: and I have my dare for all us millennials don't
Speaker 1: do drugs. Kids, it worked out. Welcome back, Thank you? Yeah,
Speaker 1: number four, number four. I'm so connected to this movie.
Speaker 1: It like really brings a tear to my eye that
Speaker 1: y'all thought of me. Oh my gosh, we're so happy
Speaker 1: to have you. Yeah, tell your history, your relationship with it.
Speaker 1: I watched it like every single day the VHS when
Speaker 1: I was little. Someone said, ah, um, watched it like
Speaker 1: every single day. I dressed up as rock sand like twice.
Speaker 1: And then for a Goofy movie the twenty fifth anniversary,
Speaker 1: which was at El Kappy Tan did anyone go to that?
Speaker 1: By the way, Okay, no one? Wow, our audience just
Speaker 1: told me hardcore. Um, I knew that everyone was going
Speaker 1: to be dressing up as Rock Sande, so I actually
Speaker 1: went as Lisa. So she's the one that's like, who's
Speaker 1: that guy the hot blonde? And I won the costume
Speaker 1: contest for her because nobody else was her, so very
Speaker 1: well did fans of the movie? No, exactly, Oh hell
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. Pick. That's my thing is pick the obscure.
Speaker 1: If you're going to the twenty fifth anniversary of a
Speaker 1: movie like Drassic Park or something like Titanic is about
Speaker 1: to come out for if you have to be the
Speaker 1: couple that's holding each other, can we would be so good?
Speaker 1: You and me. We're just gonna be booning hopping around
Speaker 1: and your clothes are just damp, like we would have
Speaker 1: to bring a third person to keep spraying us like
Speaker 1: a bad cat. Yeah, let's do it. You know everyone's
Speaker 1: gonna be Jack and Rose, so you have to do exactly.
Speaker 1: You'll win the costume contest, I promise. Or I could
Speaker 1: be the propeller and you could be the guy that
Speaker 1: hits us. I could just keep sneaking up on you,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah no, and then I'll spin around and
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, yeah. That would be really respectful to the
Speaker 1: victims of that T So this was a big movie
Speaker 1: of your childhood. Yes, yes, I was obsessed. Nice Jamie,
Speaker 1: what about you? I worked backwards. I saw an extremely
Speaker 1: goofy movie. Give it up for extremely I don't I
Speaker 1: missed a goofy movie. I started on turbo mode. I
Speaker 1: started with an extremely goofy movie. I really liked an
Speaker 1: extremely goofy movie, but I was like extremely in comparison
Speaker 1: to what you know. Sure, and I also rewatched an
Speaker 1: extremely goofy movie because that I had a stronger nostalgic
Speaker 1: attachment too, where I always think I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's the one where Goofy follows Max to college. Because
Speaker 1: of a lot of complicated societal reasons, but also because
Speaker 1: of Goofy's boundary issues. So I was deep into the
Speaker 1: extremely expanded universe hilarious, and so I had to work
Speaker 1: my way backwards. And so that's why I think I
Speaker 1: have like less of an attachment to rock Sand because
Speaker 1: they act as if she has died. It's not cannon
Speaker 1: to me, really, I mean I wouldn't. I'm not surprised
Speaker 1: everyone is. I mean, like, there are several key characters
Speaker 1: who disappear. But yeah, I saw extremely as we in
Speaker 1: the community call it, and just like and and we've
Speaker 1: been talking about I feel like Kaitlin and I joke
Speaker 1: about that all the time, where it's like the sequel
Speaker 1: to Doubt would be an extremely doubtful movie. Yeah. Yes,
Speaker 1: it works for almost any really sad movie, and it's
Speaker 1: almost always funny. Um, an extremely crashed movie like it
Speaker 1: did keeps it keeps working. But I so I saw
Speaker 1: a goofy movie second, and it is by far the
Speaker 1: stronger movie. It is like, really really good. Someone just
Speaker 1: choked on their own saliva. Wait, I'm sorry, is better? No? No, no, no,
Speaker 1: the Originals Okay, Okay, she's right people. Yeah, no, a
Speaker 1: goofy movie like from a story perspective, and what it
Speaker 1: has to say is way better. I'm still more attached
Speaker 1: to an extremely goofy movie, especially rewatching it, because on
Speaker 1: the rewatch, for people who go back and watch an
Speaker 1: extremely goofy movie, which you should if you had, it's
Speaker 1: like three minutes long, you can watch it. But I
Speaker 1: think it was fun because it's mainly it's it is
Speaker 1: father Son's stuff in the way that this first movie is.
Speaker 1: But it's also clear that Disney has just purchased ESPN
Speaker 1: and they really want to advertise the X Games. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, and that's most of them. That's why it's
Speaker 1: extremely goofy. It's because they're skateboarding. Oh, extremely extreme games. Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: just PN extremely Disney merger is do you know that
Speaker 1: Goofy is the only one canonically who's had sex? Like,
Speaker 1: that's kind of Mickey can't prove it. He doesn't have
Speaker 1: offspring Donald those are his nephews. Oh wait, it's not
Speaker 1: a short where like Mickey gets a vasectomy or something.
Speaker 1: He's Goofy is the only one. I mean, it's very upsetting.
Speaker 1: But Goofy is the only one that has had sex,
Speaker 1: So you know that's that we can prove. And and
Speaker 1: but could Max have been adopted? Wow? Wow? You know
Speaker 1: there's a whole I'm on Reddit way too much. There's
Speaker 1: a whole thing about Goofy and Clara Belle the Cow,
Speaker 1: which is inners special. See you know I saw you
Speaker 1: shaking your head. You also were on that thread. Um. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so there was a whole thing about is Clara Belle
Speaker 1: a dog or a cow? What is her history? Could
Speaker 1: she be Max's mom? What? Who's Clara Belle? Sorry? Okay,
Speaker 1: I know a cow who's like you imagine a cow, okay,
Speaker 1: but like goofified, and she's like in the original the
Speaker 1: old like nineteen fifties Disney stuff. I think she might
Speaker 1: have had something around her neck. I don't know what,
Speaker 1: like feed is that what she would have had a
Speaker 1: cow bell? Anyways, in my universe that is Max's mom,
Speaker 1: but she gave him up because she just wanted a
Speaker 1: different life. I see. I will say there has been
Speaker 1: a I mean, I guess this is true of all
Speaker 1: cartoons that people have since you know, fans have since
Speaker 1: gone through puberty. But when I was looking for shirts
Speaker 1: to wear, I wish I had thought to get a
Speaker 1: shirt sooner, because had I had six more days, I
Speaker 1: could have had a T shirt with Max spanking rock
Speaker 1: sand Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, totty clear, she's loving it.
Speaker 1: It's very consensual, it's very they're very I don't assuming
Speaker 1: they're very in love. I don't. You can always find
Speaker 1: someone you're in loving. Did you find this shirt and
Speaker 1: it just wouldn't have arrived in time or was this
Speaker 1: something you would design? Okay, yeah, I had I contacted
Speaker 1: all these like screen printers, and they were just like
Speaker 1: they called the police. There is that famous meme the
Speaker 1: bitch you live like this? Yeah, yeah, yes, that's our
Speaker 1: favorite couple. Okay, they're kind of like they're They're very
Speaker 1: iconic for a character that is all but killed off
Speaker 1: for the sequel. It's really wild, Caitlin, was your history
Speaker 1: with a Goofy movie? I had not seen it before.
Speaker 1: I really feel like I only knew about a Goofy
Speaker 1: movie and from from your tweets, tweets and from the
Speaker 1: bit that we have done on the show where we say, oh,
Speaker 1: the sequel to Spotlight Spotlight an extremely spotlighty movie. But
Speaker 1: then I was like, we make this joke so often
Speaker 1: and we're probably going to cover one, if not both,
Speaker 1: of the movies. So I will. I'll take it upon
Speaker 1: myself to watch a Goofy movie, which I did like
Speaker 1: maybe six months ago for the first time. And then
Speaker 1: that's really it and extremely women talking. Yeah, it keeps
Speaker 1: it just keeps delivering. I don't love it. It makes
Speaker 1: me laugh every time, especially if it's not funny. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I had I have no real attachment to a Goofy.
Speaker 1: Did you like it like the first time you watched it? Um, Look,
Speaker 1: I don't like how this is starting. I find Goofy,
Speaker 1: the character and his antics irritating. Oh okay, literally, Caitlin
Speaker 1: and I rewatch this together right before we came here,
Speaker 1: and every time Caitlyn was like, why is he doing that?
Speaker 1: I'm like, look at his ID. His name is Goofy Goose.
Speaker 1: He's doing Goofy goof things because his name is Goofy Goose.
Speaker 1: I spark at the guy. Be that doesn't mean I
Speaker 1: need to like it, Oh my gosh. Never in my life.
Speaker 1: I honestly, as I got older, Like being a teenager, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like Goofy's obnoxious as hell. But as I
Speaker 1: got older, I'm like, this is just a dad who
Speaker 1: wants to hang out with his side. That is true.
Speaker 1: I appreciate that just wants to be a part of it.
Speaker 1: But then when Goofy starts driving, Caitlyn goes nucle is
Speaker 1: endangerous everyone on the road. So it's it's a nice movie, gosh,
Speaker 1: I will say. Okay, so there are a few. This
Speaker 1: movie is a spinoff of did you ever watch goof Troop?
Speaker 1: I did? Did? Yeah, okay I did. I wasn't aware
Speaker 1: I have watched the entire universe. It's like it's very
Speaker 1: important to me. You won the costume contest at El Capitana.
Speaker 1: That's huge. So this is a spinoff. For those who
Speaker 1: don't know, this movie is technically a spinoff of an
Speaker 1: afternoon cartoon with some of the same characters UM called
Speaker 1: goof Troop and I was not aware of that, but
Speaker 1: there's like some precedent for what's going on. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: I just thought of this, but I have to point
Speaker 1: out Pete is also a cat that bothers me because
Speaker 1: the cat. No, they're friend like they're alliant. No, actually
Speaker 1: there they hate each other, so that makes sense. Never mind, Well,
Speaker 1: I was more thinking the fact that they have like
Speaker 1: the suggestion of the animal on top and then just
Speaker 1: like a human face was more that. What bothered me
Speaker 1: about them was that I was like, how would I
Speaker 1: know this is anything at all? Like, as I was watching,
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I understand, like, you know, Goofy's
Speaker 1: a dog, but then as time goes on, you kind
Speaker 1: of forget that he's a dog. He's just kind of
Speaker 1: like You're like, oh, what a weird looking guy, you know,
Speaker 1: But then when you're putting a world full of goofies,
Speaker 1: they look less and less like dogs all the time,
Speaker 1: like the poly Short character. What is that? What am
Speaker 1: I looking at? Is that a naked mulerat like? And
Speaker 1: then also listening to the poly Shore character after having
Speaker 1: seen poly Short's Pinocchio. Yes, father, father, I just want
Speaker 1: to be on my own. Did anyone else see Pinocchio story?
Speaker 1: Or is it just us? Okay? Not right exactly. He's
Speaker 1: a great advertisement for our Patreon where we watched. And
Speaker 1: I actually would call the poly shot Pinocchio an extremely
Speaker 1: Pinocchio movie because it's really not about Pinocchio. Poly Short
Speaker 1: is a bad job and Napoleon Dynamite plays the horse
Speaker 1: and you say, oh, the horse in Pinocchio not a
Speaker 1: character that exists in the world. Well, anyway, should I
Speaker 1: recap the movie? Yes's famous recap here we go Max
Speaker 1: Goof has a dream about his crush Rock Sanne. Wet
Speaker 1: or dry? It's a wet dream. It is is wild
Speaker 1: that this children's movie opens on the main character having
Speaker 1: a wet dream that ends on like a Kafka as nightmare. Great. Yes,
Speaker 1: so he's having a dream at where he's about to
Speaker 1: kiss his crush, Rock Sanne, but then it turns into
Speaker 1: this nightmare because his teeth in his hands and his
Speaker 1: feet become humorngous, and he turns into his dad Goofy.
Speaker 1: Max wakes up and his dad Goofy comes in and
Speaker 1: he's being so goofy. And then with you, it's like
Speaker 1: parentheses pejoritis look a little too. It's not I don't
Speaker 1: mind goofy behavior. I myself identify as a goof Then
Speaker 1: why are you so upset? I don't like how little
Speaker 1: self awareness he has. I respect it, okay. So he's
Speaker 1: being very goofy and Max is like, Dad, you ruin
Speaker 1: my cardboard cut out of power Line? There, father, I
Speaker 1: just want to be on my own. So Max loves
Speaker 1: power Line, the coolest rock star of all time according
Speaker 1: to him, and Goofy ruins his like cardboard cutout of him.
Speaker 1: Then Max heads to his last day of school before
Speaker 1: summer vacation, and there's a song about how he's not
Speaker 1: going to be a dork or a goof anymore. He's
Speaker 1: cool actually, and he's going to talk to Roxanne. But
Speaker 1: real in cell vibes, I gotta say, y'all were thinking it.
Speaker 1: They've been laughing since I can remember. They're not going
Speaker 1: to laugh anymore. Yeah, sir, that is the manifesto of
Speaker 1: someone scary. Yeah. So he's like, I'm going to talk
Speaker 1: to Roxanne. But then when the opportunity presents itself for
Speaker 1: him to do that, he blows it and he goes
Speaker 1: and then he runs away humiliated. There is a version
Speaker 1: of this movie where rock Sand's like, yeah, that laugh
Speaker 1: is really annoying. Sorry, I would have liked you but
Speaker 1: for the yuck. But in this version of the story
Speaker 1: it makes her excited. She goes o yuk, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to do that at least three more times. Okay.
Speaker 1: Max gets to school and he has something planned to
Speaker 1: get rock Sand to notice him, which again in salvibs
Speaker 1: yeah yeah. So with the help of his best friend
Speaker 1: p J and Bobby this kid who loves cheese Whiz
Speaker 1: Polly Shore voiced by Polly Shore of Pinocchio, a true
Speaker 1: story fame. So at the pepp assembly, Max performs a
Speaker 1: song dressed as power line to get Roxann's attention. It
Speaker 1: goes well at first, and everyone thinks he's so cool
Speaker 1: and Roxanne is digging it, but then Wallace Shawn Principle
Speaker 1: puts an end to it. I think you mean Principle,
Speaker 1: Wallace Seawan, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sorry. He puts an end
Speaker 1: to it and reveals that this person is Max goof
Speaker 1: and everyone's like, oh, it's that goof kid. I love
Speaker 1: shorthand for bullying, Like, oh yeah, that goof kid. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: he looks like all of you guys a game, not
Speaker 1: really like a dog. Very chill out. Okay. So meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Goofy is at work his boss Pete. He's he's a
Speaker 1: like he works at Jac Penny exactly, Yes, Sears photo
Speaker 1: department exactly. Can I just okay? In an extremely Goofy movie,
Speaker 1: they don't address why his job has changed. But suddenly
Speaker 1: he works in a dystopian factory where they it's like
Speaker 1: two years later and he's working in this factory and
Speaker 1: they're watching him on webcams and then he gets fired.
Speaker 1: It's a nightmare for him. I don't know what happened
Speaker 1: to the photo studio because Pete's still his friend. It's
Speaker 1: unclear what happened. I don't know, maybe he got fired.
Speaker 1: I feel like, are they Are they friends? In the
Speaker 1: sequel they remain friends. Oh yeah, I guess. It's like
Speaker 1: I don't even know, like why. Maybe it's just like
Speaker 1: the sort of like small town vibe where it's like, well,
Speaker 1: you live nearby, so I have to make this Workum,
Speaker 1: but Pete, I guess like historically, Pete is a Disney
Speaker 1: character that's existed longer than Goofy. He's a villain. Yeah,
Speaker 1: since like the nineteen twenties. He was like in the
Speaker 1: old like Walt Disney Alice in Wonderland cartoons too. He's
Speaker 1: been around forever. He was in a Christmas Carol, Mickey's
Speaker 1: Christmas Carol. He was um Ghost of the Future. M Yeah,
Speaker 1: y'all are not real Disney fans. I mean I'm not
Speaker 1: even a Disney adult well show on you all. No,
Speaker 1: because I'm Wikipedia, I say this with authority. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I learned this on Wikipedia two hours ago. But it
Speaker 1: is true. It is true. Pete's been around, Yeah, has
Speaker 1: been around. And in this version he's an antagonist neighbor
Speaker 1: that might be an emotionally abusive father. Question. Also, Moms
Speaker 1: are gone again. Disney hates moms. We'll unpack that because
Speaker 1: I because I thought the way this movie like, it
Speaker 1: wasn't even dealt with moms. It just like the moms
Speaker 1: didn't come up. I thought it was interesting. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: was just as if they produced as if Max just
Speaker 1: showed up one day. Okay, So, so Pete is Goofy's
Speaker 1: boss and he's also Pj's dad, and he's like, I'm
Speaker 1: taking PJ camping for the summer because it's a great
Speaker 1: activity for fathers and sons, and I've heard of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this movie's about those guys, like most movies. And then Pete,
Speaker 1: it's also like, and if Max doesn't want to spend
Speaker 1: time with you, Goofy, that probably means he's in a
Speaker 1: gang and doing crime. So back at school, Max and
Speaker 1: Roxanne finally chat and he works up the nerve to
Speaker 1: ask her to go with him to this girl's party
Speaker 1: where sorry, Stacy, thank you, I'm so sorry. Who's dressed
Speaker 1: as bloshing. Yeah, so she's having a party where she's
Speaker 1: screening the power Line concert that's happening in LA in
Speaker 1: a week Los Angeles, ever heard of it? But Max
Speaker 1: is in big trouble with a principle for this little
Speaker 1: stunt that he pulled at the PEP assembly. Also, as
Speaker 1: you pointed out, Gamelin principal Wallace Shawan has like weapons
Speaker 1: on his like on the wall of his office. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's got like like a cricket paddle with like spikes
Speaker 1: to Principal Walashaan is killing these kids, these dogs or
Speaker 1: cats whatever, And he calls Goofy and he's like, you
Speaker 1: better get your son under control before he turns to
Speaker 1: a life of crime and ends up in the electric chair.
Speaker 1: That's a quote the quote from the Flimm. So Goofy
Speaker 1: is now so scared about what might happen to Max
Speaker 1: that he's like, Okay, I have to take him on
Speaker 1: this fishing camping trip for the summer to Lake Destiny, Idaho.
Speaker 1: Ever heard of that? I haven't. And so he's like, okay, Max,
Speaker 1: We're going today. And Max doesn't want to go. It's
Speaker 1: going to take weeks and he's gonna miss the party
Speaker 1: with Roxanne. So they set off, but he stops at
Speaker 1: Roxanne's house to tell her and she feels very rejected
Speaker 1: that he can't go to the party with her anymore,
Speaker 1: and she's like, I guess we'll just go with someone else.
Speaker 1: So then Max no manipulative love. It see also to
Speaker 1: be like no one in this movie can communicate the
Speaker 1: one of the tropes that is in this movie that
Speaker 1: like it's just like, yeah, it's nineteen ninety five is
Speaker 1: going to be there where it's like she's like a
Speaker 1: preteen girl. And so when her dad comes to the door,
Speaker 1: he's like like, but he's like a real dog. He's
Speaker 1: the only the only doge. He's a real dog. Really,
Speaker 1: he's literally like he only barks and growls. Who's the
Speaker 1: guy from a Mystic River? Is it Sean Penn? Who's
Speaker 1: who's a horrible person? But like, but the guy's like
Speaker 1: my daughter, you know, like that's Rock Sands. He's like
Speaker 1: hulking over. Poor's a bulldog. She's a bulldog. I just
Speaker 1: play that together. Oh yeah, okay, yeah, okay, hang on this. Okay,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna get to a part where they're on
Speaker 1: the road on the open road, and there they pass
Speaker 1: a car where a woman is driving and she has
Speaker 1: several pet cats in how are do those cats exist
Speaker 1: in this universe? And then also Pete and Pja are cats. Well,
Speaker 1: there's there are no rules when it comes to shaming
Speaker 1: women for owning cats. It doesn't matter what species they are.
Speaker 1: If a woman owns a cat, she's pathetic. Yeah yea. Anyways, okay,
Speaker 1: so my cat starving to death at home while I
Speaker 1: say this, Okay, so Roxanne is like, I'm going to
Speaker 1: go to the party with someone else. So Max makes
Speaker 1: up a lie that his dad is taking him to
Speaker 1: the power Line concert in la and that Max will
Speaker 1: be joining power Line on stage for the final number.
Speaker 1: This is nineties teen cannon, where if there's a teenage
Speaker 1: boy character in the nineties, he's going to lie for
Speaker 1: unprompted to start the plot, like it's just what he's
Speaker 1: gonna do. M So he has told this lie to Roxanne,
Speaker 1: and then Max and Goofy set off with a map
Speaker 1: of the route that all the places Goofy went with
Speaker 1: his dad, because there needs to be another father son
Speaker 1: dynamic layered into the movie. Is it weird that I
Speaker 1: wanted to know? How and when Goofy's father died. They
Speaker 1: referenced him many times, and then like Max was like, oh,
Speaker 1: I guess you were close with him. Huh. I'm like,
Speaker 1: did he die before you were born? Like? When did
Speaker 1: Goofy's father die? You know that's wild. He probably died
Speaker 1: when he was like fifteen, like dog ears, yes, dad
Speaker 1: was his dad was like fifteen years old. That's the problem. Okay,
Speaker 1: that was that was wigging me out for an extremely
Speaker 1: Goofy movie, which came out in two thousand, takes place
Speaker 1: in two thousand and then Goofy's like when I was
Speaker 1: in college in the seventies and You're like, are you
Speaker 1: a dog or not? What species are you? That you're
Speaker 1: alive and in your forties? Like, it doesn't make sense.
Speaker 1: I just thought, I like, was Goofy's down? Did he
Speaker 1: die in a dog way? Did he or did he
Speaker 1: die in a person What is that? Like? Hit by
Speaker 1: a car? Goofy probably killing him? No, Goofy killed his
Speaker 1: dad with his driving, his bad, bad driving. What if
Speaker 1: Goofy's dead eight too many eminem's that's a dog way
Speaker 1: to die. I would do that, chocolate. I couldn't do that.
Speaker 1: There he got into someone's advent calendar. Yeah, yuck, mournful
Speaker 1: of yuck, yuck. You know he you know, he says
Speaker 1: that when he's coming again, canonically the only Disney character
Speaker 1: that's had sex, he of our main five Goofy Fox.
Speaker 1: It's true. I mean, well asked the internet. We can't know.
Speaker 1: We can't know. Okay. So they set up on this
Speaker 1: trip and Max is very resentful about being there. They
Speaker 1: fight over what to play on the radio. They sing
Speaker 1: a song about being on the open road. They go
Speaker 1: to this roadside attraction, Lester's Possum Park, where Goofy embarrasses Max.
Speaker 1: Then PJ and his dad Pete, because we figured out
Speaker 1: so like Goofy's name prior to this franchise was like
Speaker 1: goof is pe dog, which I think we can all
Speaker 1: agree as innovative and fat, but in the context of
Speaker 1: this franchise appears to be Goofy goof Yes, and then Pete,
Speaker 1: according to the Wikipedia page we learned is named Pete
Speaker 1: Pete yes, because PJ is called PJ Pete, which will
Speaker 1: make him Pete Junior Pete. Yes. Okay, but this is
Speaker 1: not that different for Latino families. I'm sorry, Maya, Bilo's
Speaker 1: name is Fernando Fernandez, so okay, okay, conceited, So wow,
Speaker 1: like Pete is Latino, I mean representation matters, it really does.
Speaker 1: Pete also has Maybe that explains Pete's tail because I
Speaker 1: was also like losing my mind over Pete's tail. Pete's
Speaker 1: tail shows up at this sequence of the movie. We're
Speaker 1: Pete now the dogtail. That's what a cat's tail. It's
Speaker 1: like a little it could be a little catstail. Oh
Speaker 1: you're right now, Yeah, what species are they? He's a
Speaker 1: bob maybe a bob cat. Okay, in this world, can
Speaker 1: you be half cat and half dog? Like I don't
Speaker 1: apparely you could be half dog half cow. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It's the world keeps it ambiguous, and I think for
Speaker 1: the sake of pornographers everywhere, it should say that way.
Speaker 1: It's perfect. I think that that's good. Okay, So PJ
Speaker 1: and Pete Pete show up. They're also camping, but sorry,
Speaker 1: they're glamping because they show up in like this huge
Speaker 1: obvious way. He makes that much money working at sears
Speaker 1: right right, he has murdered some people. He's in the mafia.
Speaker 1: We're like, what did Pete's dad do for a living
Speaker 1: that they have that kind of money? Nepo, baby, nepo.
Speaker 1: Oh okay. So Goofy is like, oh, Pete, I feel
Speaker 1: like I'm driving Max further away. Maybe I should back off,
Speaker 1: And Pete is like, no, you have to be a
Speaker 1: mean daddy. So I'm sorry. I was very sensual. I
Speaker 1: think Goofy goes yeah, you know the fan art is
Speaker 1: out there. Okay, Goofy and Pete forgetting in the Camper,
Speaker 1: I'm sure. Okay. So Goofy is trying to be a
Speaker 1: mean bad daddy now and and he's like Max, we
Speaker 1: have to go fishing right now. And he shows Max
Speaker 1: how to fish, and he keeps talking about the perfect cast,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, the perfect cast? Is he talking about
Speaker 1: the Bechtel cast? Okay? Literally fishing? Goofy taught me. Well,
Speaker 1: my thought was, we're saying a dog knows how to fish,
Speaker 1: but I don't know, you know, like Goofy, he's not
Speaker 1: competent at many things. And so the fact that he
Speaker 1: knows how to fish, I saluted him from on that
Speaker 1: he well, he isn't very good because he accidentally catches Bigfoot.
Speaker 1: Or he's great because no one catches Bigfoot. That's the
Speaker 1: whole thing true. I see your point. Okay, So this
Speaker 1: does happen in the movie. He catches big Foot. Big
Speaker 1: Foot attacks and traps Goofy and Max in their car.
Speaker 1: A what if Bigfoot is how dogs view humans? Like
Speaker 1: what if that's the one human in this movie? It's
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Katzberg. They caught him. He actually a human, doesn't
Speaker 1: He have fingers? And they all have those like little
Speaker 1: gloves They reference that in an extremely Goofy movie, when
Speaker 1: PJ becomes a slam poet, he's like, are we always
Speaker 1: wearing gloves? And you're like, wow, PJ really found himself.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I just wanted to take it off
Speaker 1: and it's just bones. Okay, So there's humans canonically, that's us, okay,
Speaker 1: yeah like that. Yeah, And this human slash Bigfoot, is
Speaker 1: terrorizing Goofy and Max, and Max starts to realize that
Speaker 1: Goofy is just trying his best and Max should go
Speaker 1: easier on his dad because they love each other. And
Speaker 1: then also Max can sitters writing to Roxanne to tell
Speaker 1: her that he lied, but then he's like no, He's like, wait,
Speaker 1: I'm a boy in the nineties. I would never tell
Speaker 1: the truth. And then he does find the map, and
Speaker 1: so while Goofy is sleeping, Max reroutes their trip to
Speaker 1: la instead of them going to Idaho, and they had
Speaker 1: the most heartbreaking moment the high Dad Sup hid. Somebody
Speaker 1: in Rotten Tomatoes said this movie has no heart, and
Speaker 1: I don't know I could tell they were like gen
Speaker 1: X or something. That's so was like, that is like,
Speaker 1: this movie's all hard, that's so wild. I feel like
Speaker 1: their X has to be in it or something. Polly
Speaker 1: Shore's X gave a scathing review to Courtney Love. Really,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Dad. I'm sure he's did everybody who
Speaker 1: is the nineties. It's true, everyone did everybody? Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: that high dad soup? Was that? Like? I mean that
Speaker 1: makes me cry every time I see it for those
Speaker 1: soup for you? Yeah, you're googling, Oh my god, that's
Speaker 1: really nice. There we'll tell you, um or who did Danny?
Speaker 1: Do you want to explain? Yeah, I'll cry. Okay. So
Speaker 1: he has alphabet soup and Goofy says, oh, you used
Speaker 1: to write like cute little things to me, like hi Dad.
Speaker 1: And then when he and you know this is after
Speaker 1: they have a big blow up, and so he taps
Speaker 1: Goofy on the shoulder and he hands him a cup
Speaker 1: and inside of it it says, hi Dad. Out of
Speaker 1: the soup. I think about it when I need to
Speaker 1: cry before an audition. Oh and Goofy does this thing
Speaker 1: in the car because this is a big thing with
Speaker 1: her communication, which feels almost like a little out of
Speaker 1: character for Goofy. But whatever, But he's sort of like
Speaker 1: he's like, oh yeah, and then you would say I
Speaker 1: love oh, and like he like didn't want to prompt
Speaker 1: his son to say I love you. And then you're
Speaker 1: just like, men are so broken even when they're Goofy,
Speaker 1: that's so upseting. Okay, so then Goofy, after this nice
Speaker 1: high dad soup moment, Goofy's like, you know what, son,
Speaker 1: you can choose the rest of the stops on the
Speaker 1: way to Lake Destiny. And then there's this montage where
Speaker 1: they go to an amusement park, they go to a
Speaker 1: monster truck rally, there's a baseball game, they go to
Speaker 1: a cave, they murder a mime, and Max and Goofy
Speaker 1: are getting along way better then, and I like that
Speaker 1: in that sequence there is like a split. It's like
Speaker 1: they are coming together in that sequence because they dart
Speaker 1: by just doing things that Max wants to do. But
Speaker 1: then Max realizes that Goofy is not having as much
Speaker 1: fun going to monster truck rallies because he's a fucking
Speaker 1: square and and so then Max is like, let's kill
Speaker 1: him im, which is one of the things Goofy wants
Speaker 1: to do, is see He just wants to see am im.
Speaker 1: But then he doesn't seem upset the lifetime, But like
Speaker 1: I thought, it was that that was like a really
Speaker 1: because this movie is like truly two minutes long, and
Speaker 1: the ways that they save time but still like effectively
Speaker 1: build the relationship was like, oh, they start by just
Speaker 1: doing things that Max wants to do, but by the
Speaker 1: end they are, you know, kill building Goofy's enemies. I
Speaker 1: love that this movie keeps getting progressively shorter and you
Speaker 1: keep looking at like, literally this movie's thirty seconds. I
Speaker 1: blinked it was over, but I was crying. Um, okay,
Speaker 1: so what happened? Sex they link up with Peach and
Speaker 1: Pete again. Pete overhears Max tell PJ that he changed
Speaker 1: the map to take them to LA, and so Pete,
Speaker 1: because he's a narc, tells tells Goofy about this. Goofy
Speaker 1: sees the map and he is so sad that Max
Speaker 1: would deceive Goofy like that. But Max keeps navigating them
Speaker 1: to LA and Goofy is still really upset. They have
Speaker 1: this big fight as their car is careening down a hill.
Speaker 1: They end up in the river. They're like saving time
Speaker 1: like wild in this movie because the climactic action scene
Speaker 1: is also the climactic resolution between father and son where
Speaker 1: they're screaming over this like VW that's crashing, and they're like,
Speaker 1: but June didn't listen to me effectively at school. It's awesome.
Speaker 1: It's awesome, And so they make up finally, and Goofy
Speaker 1: is like, oh, I understand and that you're growing up,
Speaker 1: but I just want to be a part of your life.
Speaker 1: And Max is like, oh, Dad, maybe I take your
Speaker 1: love and affection for granted. And then he tells Goofy
Speaker 1: about Roxanne off screen, which sucks. Well. Then Goofy's like, well, shit,
Speaker 1: let's get to the power Line concert because we have
Speaker 1: to maintain this lie that you told God good dad, which,
Speaker 1: to be fair, yeah, that is the greatest gift a
Speaker 1: parent can give their lying child. Has I have either
Speaker 1: of your like, have your parents ever helped you maintain
Speaker 1: a lie before? Like that? Um? Okay no, I feel
Speaker 1: like my mom kept it a lie that I wasn't
Speaker 1: a virgin. Probably okay, Okay, there we go. They also
Speaker 1: found this, Oh my gosh, this is so two thousands.
Speaker 1: They found my mom I think found a smear and
Speaker 1: off ice we had probably just one. Isn't that sad
Speaker 1: that we probably like cycled between the four of us
Speaker 1: in their glove compartment. And she also kept that from
Speaker 1: my father, so that's powerful. But he kept that he
Speaker 1: had multiple other kids, So you know who was really
Speaker 1: good at secrets learned from the best. Yeah, okay, okay,
Speaker 1: Caitlin's overriding the question. All right, we cut to a
Speaker 1: oh okay, So Goofy's like, oh funk. We got to
Speaker 1: get to this concert. And but first they have to
Speaker 1: escape from a waterfall and they save each other with
Speaker 1: fishing lines via the Perfect Cast, the Bechtel Cast once again,
Speaker 1: they start streaming our Armageddon ephisode and all of a
Speaker 1: sudden they yeah, and it's a very tender moment. Cut too.
Speaker 1: They have snuck backstage at the power Line concert in
Speaker 1: La Roxanne is watching the concert on TV. Everyone's like,
Speaker 1: where is Max? And then he shows up on stage. Max,
Speaker 1: Goofy and power Line. Wait they also killed another person? Wait? Yes,
Speaker 1: the crew guy that was just trying to do his job,
Speaker 1: which he probably got paid like minimum wage and has
Speaker 1: a family. He flew into the television. He at least
Speaker 1: was hospitalized, well I will say at least. Teamsters are
Speaker 1: usually unionized, but he did die. And then when that
Speaker 1: happened in Phantom of the opera, it was a really
Speaker 1: big deal. Yeah, it doesn't really matter how much health
Speaker 1: insurance you have when you're dead, um, when you get
Speaker 1: killed by Goofy. But also everyone cheered he had coming. Okay,
Speaker 1: so Powerline is totally fine that these two strangers are
Speaker 1: on stage with him now and they're all doing a
Speaker 1: dance and it's awesome and the people watching on TV
Speaker 1: are loving it and everyone's friends back at home. So
Speaker 1: like Roxanne does that thing, the one face that she
Speaker 1: makes where she's like, oh, yhuck, you know, like she's
Speaker 1: doing that little face she does, and then and then
Speaker 1: Polly Short goes, that's my friend or like whatever he says.
Speaker 1: But I love that's like one of my favorite moments
Speaker 1: in the movie, when like, because that's like your dream
Speaker 1: when you're a kid, to like do something and then
Speaker 1: have your friends be like they were cool actually and
Speaker 1: have someone make the little face at you, Like that's
Speaker 1: the best. I love that part. Yeah, it's very nice. Okay.
Speaker 1: I have to say at this point my theory that
Speaker 1: I think that power Line and Goofy are related because
Speaker 1: when Goofy gets on there, Max says, do the perfect cast.
Speaker 1: His dad starts to do the perfect cast, and then
Speaker 1: power Line, seeing it, jumps in and finishes it with him.
Speaker 1: How does he know the super secret Goofy family recipe? Whoa, whoa?
Speaker 1: All these dogs are related? If that's true, power Line
Speaker 1: is a terrible relative for letting Goofy work at that
Speaker 1: factory in an extremely movie and also just not hooking
Speaker 1: them up with concertating. I don't think they're related. It's
Speaker 1: like my dad's kids and ah Okay. People have literally
Speaker 1: argued with me about this, like, no, he's just a
Speaker 1: quick learner. He just saw what Goofy was doing and
Speaker 1: then he I was like no, he literally finishes the
Speaker 1: cast with him. It's true unless he like uploaded it
Speaker 1: to YouTube or something. But alternate theory. Um, you know
Speaker 1: how some animals just have instincts. You know, geese just
Speaker 1: know to fly south for the winter. What if all
Speaker 1: dogs know how to do the perfect cast instinctively? Okay? Whoa?
Speaker 1: Like all dogs that are whatever the breed that is
Speaker 1: like a dog top of head, but a human bottom
Speaker 1: of head, like Goofy and power Lines and also the cats.
Speaker 1: For some reason, I don't nobody asked for this, but
Speaker 1: I really want a live action version of this movie.
Speaker 1: Let's stay with me. And it's Jim Carrey's grinch, like
Speaker 1: that make up that would actually be great and shave
Speaker 1: that's brilliant. So the only thing just like, don't give
Speaker 1: it to Robert Zemeckis. Yeah, you just cannot give it
Speaker 1: to him. But yeah, you could give that to Ron Howard.
Speaker 1: He's done it before. He did Jim Carrey grant not
Speaker 1: to bring up Shrek, but bring up Shrek. Thank you.
Speaker 1: I will um has differing Katzenberg factors into this movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: a live action Shrek. Well did you did anyone see
Speaker 1: the like AI rendering of like what Shrek would look
Speaker 1: like if it was like a nineteen eighties fantasy live
Speaker 1: action movie. Yes, this is some good we're getting. I
Speaker 1: was expecting that's we've really cultivated a toxic fan base. Anyway, Okay,
Speaker 1: we need to move on. All right, they're dancing at
Speaker 1: the concert. Everything's great. Then we cut two Max and Goofy.
Speaker 1: Arriving back home, Max goes to Roxanne. He confesses that
Speaker 1: he lied that he didn't ever actually know power Line,
Speaker 1: and she's like, why did you lie to me? I
Speaker 1: would have liked do no matter what, And he's like, okay,
Speaker 1: do you want to hang out Google and she's like yeah,
Speaker 1: and then and then I forgot to keep writing the recap,
Speaker 1: so I forget. But that is kind of abruptly there, right, Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Goofy blows up. Yes, this car explodes, and that's kind
Speaker 1: of the end of everyone makes up and everyone has
Speaker 1: a great relationship. The end they don't even do that,
Speaker 1: like Goofy blows up lands in Roxanne's house. Then her
Speaker 1: Max goes, Babe, this is my poppy and like that's it,
Speaker 1: and then it's like dinner or whatever. However, that movie
Speaker 1: is um all right, So that's that's the movie. Cover
Speaker 1: it up for a Goofy. Well, where do we want
Speaker 1: to start talking about this? I mean, Danny, what stands
Speaker 1: out to you right away? Who do you want to
Speaker 1: talk about? What do you want to talk about? I
Speaker 1: love Max's style. I was so That's how I knew
Speaker 1: I was by though I was like, I the biggest car.
Speaker 1: They purposely made them hot. That Lisa girl has tits.
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of the dog girls have tits.
Speaker 1: And in an extremely Goofy movie, Max goes to college
Speaker 1: and then every dog girl has like tits. It's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, who else you could be? The goth girls
Speaker 1: on the bus, Yeah, I really loved them. They're not
Speaker 1: like the other girls. They're no, they're listening to the
Speaker 1: the Goofy Cure. They like they pierced each other's ears.
Speaker 1: They're listening to bright goofy eyes. They're having a lot
Speaker 1: of fun. No, but his style clearly he was like
Speaker 1: mold after JTT, like that was the nineteen ninety five
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean that totally. Like I think it's
Speaker 1: so bizarre that, like when a character exists for this long,
Speaker 1: eventually they become relatable in a very like generational sense.
Speaker 1: It's so bizarre that Goofy was able to become yeah,
Speaker 1: a boomer dad like so, but there is I feel
Speaker 1: like it was like best illustrated in the like a
Speaker 1: very like I don't know, like maybe like an obvious way,
Speaker 1: but like when they're switching the radio back and forth
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, it's like Bill Clinton Kid and
Speaker 1: JFK guy like are all he's literally turning on high
Speaker 1: hopes that like JFK ran with that song and he's
Speaker 1: like what about this look? And then he's like no,
Speaker 1: I like, you know, a good economy and a bunch
Speaker 1: of fucked up stuff. You know, Max is gen X
Speaker 1: and we have to sort of grapple with that, you know,
Speaker 1: are you sure? Yeah? He was listening like van Halen
Speaker 1: in there. He's fifteen in nineteen ninety five. You know,
Speaker 1: it's like he's he's like kind of you know, he
Speaker 1: was like seven dog years. Oh well, yeah, canonically Max
Speaker 1: is dead. Max is like on the cusp of jen
Speaker 1: X and Max was born last year. Yeah, Max, I
Speaker 1: mean either way, it's a non issue. He died opening
Speaker 1: his eyes. Max died, So if he was fifteen and
Speaker 1: dog years, he was alive for less than for like
Speaker 1: a little over two years, which means he would have
Speaker 1: been born in nineteen ninety three. So we're like Max
Speaker 1: and I are actually around the same age. He died
Speaker 1: a long time ago, because then he would have died
Speaker 1: latest two thousand and eight. We can't do math. Well,
Speaker 1: when was long? They made a goofy movie? Not past
Speaker 1: two thousand mates, because Max died of all dame. What
Speaker 1: should we talk about? How this is a story about
Speaker 1: fathers and sons. Yeah, that's a good story about fathers
Speaker 1: and sons. I don't mind it. It's a nice one.
Speaker 1: I wrote that, and I said, but a nice one
Speaker 1: in my notes where because I mean the characters have
Speaker 1: to learn and grow in order to be able to
Speaker 1: understand each other and like maintain and strengthen their relationship,
Speaker 1: which is usually not what father's son narratives are about.
Speaker 1: So that was nice. You have like goofy he needs
Speaker 1: to learn to except that his son is growing up.
Speaker 1: He needs to learn to respect his boundaries and learn
Speaker 1: the best approach to parenting Max and then Max, I
Speaker 1: don't know, he just like needs to stopping a little shit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: basically I feel like I do. I do like that.
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of the traits that Goove
Speaker 1: he has in this movie are normally attributed to mothers,
Speaker 1: and like that he's like overbearing, He like is really
Speaker 1: emotional in the way that he deals with his son,
Speaker 1: and it's like not that just is like who he is.
Speaker 1: And I think it's like, I don't know, I thought
Speaker 1: it was like a really like smart decision on the
Speaker 1: part of I guess also the writers of like goof
Speaker 1: Troop who established this. So shout out the writers of
Speaker 1: goof Troop and of this movie. But because it like
Speaker 1: it works really well with a character that is supposed
Speaker 1: to be kind of all over the place to make
Speaker 1: them like a very emotionally driven parent who doesn't quite
Speaker 1: get it, but like really really cares, because I feel
Speaker 1: like fathers are really often characterized because of society reasons
Speaker 1: and as being very like distant and cold and unkind.
Speaker 1: And it's like Goofy is not even a great dad really,
Speaker 1: but he is a bad dad from a way that
Speaker 1: we don't usually see. He's like really emotionally it's like
Speaker 1: the Goku of the Disney Universe. Yes, yeah, there's like
Speaker 1: in the nineties always had the dumb dad trope, you know,
Speaker 1: like Home Improvement and The Simpsons and Family Guy and like,
Speaker 1: but he actually is doing the two parent role. He's
Speaker 1: both Lois and Peter. Yes, that's wild. He's stupid and
Speaker 1: he's overbearing. I love it and it like and he
Speaker 1: is like I mean even at the beginning, he's like
Speaker 1: doing chores, like he does like maintain their house as
Speaker 1: though he has titties covering them up. He has like
Speaker 1: six nipples, well probably eight. That's just dog facts. With Caitlin,
Speaker 1: thank you could be sex could be eight, you know,
Speaker 1: depends on the dog hardness. Say yeah, we don't know
Speaker 1: what species Goofy is because he's just scary looking. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, it's both
Speaker 1: characters needing to learn how to communicate their feelings in
Speaker 1: a productive way, and that's not the story for male
Speaker 1: characters usually. Yeah. And and instead of like this movie
Speaker 1: doesn't really have a clear cut villain, I feel like
Speaker 1: Pete because like you're saying, Danny, like Pete has a
Speaker 1: history of being sort of a villain, but like it's
Speaker 1: more just like there's two sets of fathers and sons
Speaker 1: fucking it up in different ways, and Goofy and Max
Speaker 1: figure it out and Pja is just fucked. I suppose
Speaker 1: it's just gonna have to like go on, you know
Speaker 1: ssrse like the rest of us, do they have like
Speaker 1: I don't know who you would call, like the SPCA
Speaker 1: or something I called the SPCA, oh myself. But I
Speaker 1: mean what we do know from the sequel that he
Speaker 1: gets really into poetry, which actually does make sense for
Speaker 1: him as he get what everyone was like. Well as
Speaker 1: if that made we all have trauma to unpack and
Speaker 1: we've all done it via poetry. Um, yeah, but I
Speaker 1: do like that in the absence of a clear cut villain.
Speaker 1: We have like two very different kinds of like unhealthy
Speaker 1: father son dynamics, and then we see Goofy and Max
Speaker 1: figure it out and like create a healthier dynamic and
Speaker 1: meat in the middle, and Goofy is able like to
Speaker 1: in spite of the fact, according to Caitlyn being too
Speaker 1: damn Goofy, he is able to buy observing how Pete
Speaker 1: treats PJ, which is a very like domineering. Like there's
Speaker 1: a scene where Goofy and Pete are in a hot tub.
Speaker 1: If you were there, you were there. They were in
Speaker 1: certain fan arts. More happens in the movie. It was,
Speaker 1: you know, like Pete is like, you know, you're you
Speaker 1: want your son to like you. I want my son
Speaker 1: to respect me, which are like two you know, different
Speaker 1: toxic approaches to parenting. But but I think like Goofy
Speaker 1: learns sort of in that moment that it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: being a domineering parent isn't going to achieve a healthy
Speaker 1: relationship with my son, which is what I want, so
Speaker 1: I have to try something different. And then also Max
Speaker 1: is a fucking liar, so it's complicated. He can't stop lying. Max. Well, hey,
Speaker 1: you get single dad representation. I'm starting to think they
Speaker 1: must raise their kids like seahorses, because the women even
Speaker 1: rock sand Oh yeah yeah. When you go to her house,
Speaker 1: her dad like, I'm starting to think they have a pouch,
Speaker 1: and so women just leave at eighteen the way those
Speaker 1: dogs come, I'm out looking. I would not disbelieve anything.
Speaker 1: I was like, are they coming out of eggs? Like
Speaker 1: that is happening with these damn animals. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Something happened between the Pluto to Goofy line and they've
Speaker 1: what it was. Something something went very very past birthing them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're doing something else I did. I mean, it's like
Speaker 1: that is like kind of a double edged sword, and
Speaker 1: it again it's like a binary double edged sword too.
Speaker 1: But it's like what because at this same time, because
Speaker 1: this movie comes out ninety five, which is like squarely
Speaker 1: in the middle of the Disney Renaissance, or I guess
Speaker 1: towards the end, and you have this series of mostly
Speaker 1: princess protagonists who rarely have a mother. It's always addressed
Speaker 1: in a vague impactful way, usually like your mother would
Speaker 1: have blah blah blah, and you're like, who where is
Speaker 1: yet we don't know she ate too many M and
Speaker 1: m's and she died. That's what happened to all the
Speaker 1: Disney moms. Um but and but like, even though it
Speaker 1: is such a Disney trope that the mother is presumably dead,
Speaker 1: like it's always this looming bizarre thing over the story.
Speaker 1: But in this movie, you're totally right, Dan, like they
Speaker 1: it's like they never were because Goofy talks about his
Speaker 1: father and that's kind of it. And what happens is
Speaker 1: that means that there's like no women in the story,
Speaker 1: which is like, well that I don't love that. But then,
Speaker 1: but how did rock Sand get there? How did rock
Speaker 1: Sand show up? How did any of them? You say
Speaker 1: that Goofy has had sex, but I still talked about
Speaker 1: the fan art, Okay, I don't know. Now I think
Speaker 1: like I don't know, they like take us out back
Speaker 1: or something and like after you know, we're obsolete. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that was sort of because there were Caitlyn
Speaker 1: and I know we can't go there. Do dogs put
Speaker 1: other dogs down? A lot? A lot of I had
Speaker 1: a lot of like what happens to the women dogs?
Speaker 1: Like what happens because there are a few of them.
Speaker 1: There's like, for instance, the Wallas, Shawn's secretary has lived.
Speaker 1: But it's like, is it like fucking Nuremberg? Like what
Speaker 1: did she have to do to survive? There are so
Speaker 1: few this is women, Dogy darling, there's not a lot
Speaker 1: of women who appear to survive to adulthood. I will say, mysteries.
Speaker 1: Let me need the movie All Dogs Go to Heaven
Speaker 1: is a sequel to a Goofy movie, or or maybe
Speaker 1: we're oversimplifying it by being like, oh, like women are
Speaker 1: inherently good, We're Goofy, you know, like Goofy's wife is
Speaker 1: in hell. She I just realized what it is. One
Speaker 1: one of those women can have like six puppies. So
Speaker 1: it's kind of like y'all know when the lion king,
Speaker 1: I know, mind blowing, you know when the lion King
Speaker 1: how Mufassa is actually Simba and Nala's dad And we
Speaker 1: know that, Yeah, because that's how prides work. There's only
Speaker 1: one male in the pride, so all those little kids
Speaker 1: are actually all of his siblings. Um, so that's the
Speaker 1: same with this, so Roxanne and yeah, so the mom
Speaker 1: actually had six puppies. Yeah, as I would too, So
Speaker 1: that does so that would mean so if goofy is
Speaker 1: everyone's dad what No, way, no, well one makes sense.
Speaker 1: Way wait if goofy if wait are you saying I'm
Speaker 1: getting confused? Is goofy fas? She's it works scoofy. No,
Speaker 1: she's at a puppy mill. Like that's what's happening. When
Speaker 1: they've had several litters, they all owe them. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: and then they killed just one of them. There's just
Speaker 1: one mom for the just don't have a panic attack.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, So but there's no so magasin
Speaker 1: rock sand related water egg Okay, probably, Okay, it makes sense.
Speaker 1: Someone's really upsesed. I'm so goofy is the moo fass.
Speaker 1: I was like the goofy umseex with every other you
Speaker 1: know what told me that? My sixth grade science teacher. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she got up in front of her class and was like, actually,
Speaker 1: simbonala are related? Yeah, it had an ax. Now I'm
Speaker 1: going to learn about periods. Yeah she did. She was divorced.
Speaker 1: I love. I was like, if you're a teacher, and like, okay,
Speaker 1: teachers with my whole family a teachers to teach between
Speaker 1: sixth and tenth grade, you gotta have an axe to
Speaker 1: grind or you're not gonna find like the thrill to continue. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta say something really fucked up every year? How
Speaker 1: can I unnerve these little fuckers? Yeah, something unhinged. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she was like Neil de grass Ties. That's something he
Speaker 1: would say amongst other thieves. Okay, okay, shall we talk
Speaker 1: about rox Hands? Yes? Yeah? Why was she so hot
Speaker 1: in the beginning because he's having a nocturnal emission? Um,
Speaker 1: I was seeing me and Caitlin's her band is goofy neutered.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, we i um, we couldn't so wait that
Speaker 1: whole that totally undermines the move facea thing. No, he
Speaker 1: you know, after he had a few letters, after he
Speaker 1: he looked a time or two. Wow. So anyway, rock
Speaker 1: sand as a really so she's in the story because
Speaker 1: she was the love interest of Max and then there
Speaker 1: are basically no other women in their like female characters
Speaker 1: in the movie. Uh, there's Stacy, sure, but she could
Speaker 1: be kind of taken out of the movie and not
Speaker 1: much would change. But we love that she's there. Of course,
Speaker 1: as far as like the romance goes between, we already
Speaker 1: stated that the whole story is built on a lie
Speaker 1: that Max told, which he maintains and which Goofy helps
Speaker 1: him maintain. But then he does come clean at the
Speaker 1: very end and he says, Roxanne, I lie to you,
Speaker 1: and she gets upset with him, calls him out, says like,
Speaker 1: why did you lie to me? You did not need
Speaker 1: to do that. I would have liked you no matter what.
Speaker 1: But then she says she literally does. She does, and
Speaker 1: he does not apologize. He admits to lying, but not
Speaker 1: he doesn't really apologize for it, and then he does
Speaker 1: surprise kiss her at the end. Yes, he definitely surprised
Speaker 1: kisses her. The way that the apologies you're dealt with
Speaker 1: in the movie at that were bizarre because it was
Speaker 1: like no one explicitly says I'm sorry, but it felt
Speaker 1: it did feel like apologies were given. I don't know,
Speaker 1: like in the scene where there's a long scene where
Speaker 1: Goofy and Max are at sea on their are that's broken,
Speaker 1: they don't seem that worried about where they're going. At
Speaker 1: one point, the car heads into a cave and they're like,
Speaker 1: we should duck. It was like, you don't know what's
Speaker 1: in this cave. That's really scary. But it's a movie,
Speaker 1: so fine. But they like. It's it's bizarre because they
Speaker 1: seem to like emotionally hash things out and be honest
Speaker 1: with each other. The words I'm sorry or I apologize
Speaker 1: aren't spoken. But it felt like that was a chief.
Speaker 1: I don't know, like I guess it like it maybe
Speaker 1: like sort of wonder like well, especially in a movie
Speaker 1: that came out in nineteen ninety five, I felt like
Speaker 1: it was a pretty decent apology for someone who didn't
Speaker 1: say I am sorry, true, you know, I'm sorry. The
Speaker 1: whole time you were talking, I just was thinking of
Speaker 1: Goofy slipping him a rubber. I'm like, I'm you were
Speaker 1: like you were late? What you said? Oh yeah? This
Speaker 1: so like he helped his son like carry out the line.
Speaker 1: I could just see him like, here you go, kid,
Speaker 1: you know, like be safe. Goofy does love safety except
Speaker 1: for when he's driving. Um, oh my god. My dog
Speaker 1: has never apologized to me, So I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's in their vocabulary, that's right, Like maybe they have.
Speaker 1: We also never saw them sniff a single butt, so
Speaker 1: it's what are they Goofy's been alive for a hundred years.
Speaker 1: It's because I think every time Goofy kills he gets
Speaker 1: the remain time. That's why he can't That's why he's like,
Speaker 1: oh I can't drive. You know, he's killing people all
Speaker 1: the time. He's killing different dogs all the time, so
Speaker 1: he can tuck everlasting them, you know, absorb their shit. Damn. Yeah, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's that's why they pay me the big pups um.
Speaker 1: But but yeah, I don't know, Like Roxton, the thing
Speaker 1: is the scenes where we get like a little glimpse
Speaker 1: into who Roxanne is. I really like her, Like she's
Speaker 1: a really really sweet and likable character. The scene with
Speaker 1: her and Max when they're like awkwardly kind of tripping
Speaker 1: over each other in this very like teenage way. I
Speaker 1: thought that scene was really sweet. I just like wish
Speaker 1: you got more of it. I guess it's like you
Speaker 1: get to know that, like she does clearly have a
Speaker 1: crush on Max and has for a while. She's really
Speaker 1: excited to go to this party with him. We see
Speaker 1: her talk to Stacy a little bit, and like, you
Speaker 1: get these glimpses into like a fun teen character. But
Speaker 1: then she just disappeared for an hour. Because the movie
Speaker 1: is about fathers and sons and that's what happens all
Speaker 1: the time. Like, I feel like there was room in
Speaker 1: the movie because it's only one second low like blinking
Speaker 1: you miss it, but like there was room in this
Speaker 1: very short movie to like cut back to what was
Speaker 1: happening and she's just like hooking up with that hot
Speaker 1: Varsity Yeah. Like I I like the glimpses we get
Speaker 1: of rock Sand, but I feel like we more often
Speaker 1: see her in Max's fantasies than we actually see her
Speaker 1: in real life, which is a bummer because like when
Speaker 1: you see her being a like, I don't know what
Speaker 1: to call her, a dog, question mark, I don't know
Speaker 1: what is she? She's a dog, right, I can't. I
Speaker 1: need to see the inside of her house. I just
Speaker 1: like we never get to see it. We always just
Speaker 1: see like a peak with her dad, Yeah, what's framed
Speaker 1: in there? And also have she and her family had
Speaker 1: their picture taken by Goofy at J C. Penney. It's interesting.
Speaker 1: I don't know, like with roxand I really like her,
Speaker 1: but I feel like there's just like I just wish
Speaker 1: there was more of her, and it makes it and
Speaker 1: it's like a bummer because it makes it really easy
Speaker 1: to extremely Goofy kill her off in the second movie.
Speaker 1: Um because I feel like you didn't get enough of her,
Speaker 1: because all like, Polly Shore and PJ come back in
Speaker 1: the second movie, and they're big players. PJ gets into
Speaker 1: slam poetry, Polly short he kind of stays the same,
Speaker 1: but they're they're both there. But rock Sand is gone.
Speaker 1: It's a bummer. Um, okay, since we're wine, we're running
Speaker 1: out of time. Yeah yeah, yeah, let's, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: figure out does this movie pass the Bactel test. I
Speaker 1: don't think so. It's actually a hard no, it definitely doesn't. Um,
Speaker 1: but but but but um, I would be curious, and
Speaker 1: then we'll give our ratings. Dan, I know you have
Speaker 1: to get going, Danny. So, um, you are familiar with
Speaker 1: our nipple scale. Um, you know, one to five nipples
Speaker 1: based on how well it sort of fairs in terms
Speaker 1: of intersectional feminism. So you don't want to skill and
Speaker 1: one to five nipples? What would you be giving a
Speaker 1: goofy movie? Do you think I have to give it
Speaker 1: like eight nipples? Is that how many of you said
Speaker 1: they have eight nipples? Yeah? Often? Yeah, okay, often. I
Speaker 1: don't know how how do you know that? I haven't
Speaker 1: looked at my dogs nipples? But I'm going around second.
Speaker 1: The second I get home, I'm going to count them.
Speaker 1: Get it and please actually let us know so you'll
Speaker 1: give it eight nipples the movie, you know what the
Speaker 1: I like the diversity, which yeah we did. We didn't.
Speaker 1: We ran out of time to talk about it. We'll
Speaker 1: record a pickup or we will. Yeah. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: like this movie has been like lauded for its diversity,
Speaker 1: which is complicated, but it truly like a very true thing. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we should we give our nipple skills or do we? Right?
Speaker 1: You gotta go all right to the show. So okay,
Speaker 1: thank you for having me. Yeah, give it up for
Speaker 1: our She's amazing. Okay, So that's where we are going
Speaker 1: to transition out of the live show because so after
Speaker 1: this we pretended that Danny had to leave for another show,
Speaker 1: but then she came back out and we all did karaoke.
Speaker 1: We sang stand out. Danny really like pulled some moves out.
Speaker 1: We have we'll close pictures of it. While we released
Speaker 1: the episode, Yeah had, but but it doesn't really unfortunately,
Speaker 1: translate to the audio medium. It would just be us
Speaker 1: using audio that's illegal to use the show. But shouts
Speaker 1: out to Juliet and Gianna who came on stage with
Speaker 1: us and saying champion. I believe it was them who
Speaker 1: won Danny's prize when she did a trivia question also
Speaker 1: something that didn't translate well to the audio medium, so
Speaker 1: you won't hear that in the show. But but we
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean it was It's I love when
Speaker 1: audience members come in to dage. It's so excited. But
Speaker 1: because it's a live show and it's a limited amount
Speaker 1: of time and kind of a looser atmosphere, we didn't
Speaker 1: have time to touch on everything that we wanted to,
Speaker 1: and so that is where this next segment comes in.
Speaker 1: That's right, and so we want to introduce he is
Speaker 1: the creator and host of the YouTube channel rid Us
Speaker 1: one oh one. It's Lauren rid Us. Thank you so
Speaker 1: much for joining us. Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1: Oh it's our pleasure. We're soaked to have you. We're
Speaker 1: a huge fans of your work, and specifically your work
Speaker 1: on this exact subject. It was truly fortuitous. Oh man,
Speaker 1: I really you think that be doing this for so
Speaker 1: long that I'd get used to people saying that I'm
Speaker 1: a big fan of your work. I'm never used to
Speaker 1: hearing that it's simply the truth. Yeah, and we I
Speaker 1: mean like in particular for this episode, we're huge fans
Speaker 1: of your It's from last year, I believe right your
Speaker 1: video essay about how a Goofy movie connected with Black
Speaker 1: millennials specifically. Yes, yes, I released the February of last year,
Speaker 1: specifically for a Black History Month. The video was I
Speaker 1: was planning on releasing it like years ago and started
Speaker 1: working on it, work on it years ago, but I
Speaker 1: never mental things in my own head. But then last
Speaker 1: year I was like, you know what, I'm releasing this video.
Speaker 1: The time has come. The people needed pretty much, we
Speaker 1: specifically needed. You explained this beautifully in the video as well,
Speaker 1: But for our listeners, could you give us a little
Speaker 1: insight into your connection to a Goofy movie? When did
Speaker 1: you foresee it and how did your connection to it
Speaker 1: kind of change over the years. Oh? Sure, I saw
Speaker 1: a Goofy movie years ago during during my childhood early
Speaker 1: elementary school. I think Leaving Fifth great because, as everybody else,
Speaker 1: I assume, even though I didn't necessarily have the Disney channel,
Speaker 1: I was aware of goof Troop and I knew I
Speaker 1: knew the correlation between a Goofy movie and Troop because
Speaker 1: Max was in it and it was a bit older,
Speaker 1: he had a deeper voice, so I immediately was able
Speaker 1: to tell that, oh, this takes place in the future,
Speaker 1: so I wonder if Pete and PJ are in it.
Speaker 1: Things like that and watched in theaters when I was young.
Speaker 1: Of course, it wasn't necessarily one of the biggest things
Speaker 1: that Disney promoted. I can't remember what other the animated
Speaker 1: feature came out around that time, but it was definitely
Speaker 1: a Pocahonnas versus Lion King type thing that came to
Speaker 1: a Goofy movie. It was like, yes, it was. It
Speaker 1: was one of the Disney films that was released this year,
Speaker 1: but they were probably busy promoting something else because it
Speaker 1: was like, we put all our money in this one,
Speaker 1: and it was just like you released that, but yeah,
Speaker 1: but it clearly it became a classic among not just
Speaker 1: not just like black millennials, but just like millennials in
Speaker 1: general from different walks of life. Like once I released
Speaker 1: a video, of course, I received multitudes of individuals who
Speaker 1: had the same background as I did comment and let
Speaker 1: me and let me know that they also felt the
Speaker 1: same way. But also like white millennials, Hispanic Latino millennials
Speaker 1: from the backgrounds and everything like that, just letting me
Speaker 1: know that a lot of the things that I related
Speaker 1: to it as I got older, so did they nice.
Speaker 1: So I want to go through the reasons that And
Speaker 1: I watched a few video essays on this exact topic,
Speaker 1: and a number of people cited certain specific reasons why
Speaker 1: it why this movie resonated with them in particular as
Speaker 1: far as like how this movie connected with their experience,
Speaker 1: the reasons that you cite in your video essay, perhaps
Speaker 1: the most obvious and superficial reason being that powerline who
Speaker 1: is a dark skinned goof character being inspired by real
Speaker 1: life black pop stars, namely Prince, Michael Jackson, and Bobby Brown. Yes,
Speaker 1: but then there's also a number of other kind of
Speaker 1: like socioeconomic cultural reasons, such as the way that Max
Speaker 1: tries to impress Roxanne at the beginning, that being kind
Speaker 1: of like a power fantasy for a lot of black
Speaker 1: kids attending underfunded schools because of redlining, and you know,
Speaker 1: those kids not having access to the elaborate way that
Speaker 1: Max puts on this big show to impress Roxanne. It
Speaker 1: becomes this like escapist fantasy exactly. I didn't know schools
Speaker 1: in general had AV clubs until oh god, damn. I
Speaker 1: think I only learned that a V clubs existed when
Speaker 1: I got older and watch stranger things for the first time.
Speaker 1: I had a similar I thought that AV clubs only
Speaker 1: existed on TV and yeah, which sucks because I was like,
Speaker 1: I think I would get along with these these kids,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh yeah, which was because we definitely I
Speaker 1: definitely had like clubs in like high school and college.
Speaker 1: A lot of my very good friends I met my
Speaker 1: freshman year of high school and my anime club. Um,
Speaker 1: but every experience an AV club or the closest thing
Speaker 1: we got to was like qualifying to like, say the
Speaker 1: morning announcements if that was a if, if if they
Speaker 1: didn't like have somebody already doing that, but uh, and
Speaker 1: then whatever performing arts we would have to either audition
Speaker 1: within or go elsewhere. If there wasn't any in the
Speaker 1: school or the school wasn't providing enough, I would have
Speaker 1: to seek it out. Like there were a lot of
Speaker 1: other extra activities I would have to define that have
Speaker 1: been funded outside of like this public school system and
Speaker 1: everything like that. So it's just like seeing how easily
Speaker 1: accessible Max PJ. And I can never remember his name.
Speaker 1: Cheez whiz Kid. Yeah, yeah, it's the character's name. Yeah.
Speaker 1: It was like, well he was only introduced in the movie.
Speaker 1: It's like I don't know him from truth. It was
Speaker 1: like I kind of have more familiarity with the once
Speaker 1: an extremely cool movie came out, but that's about it.
Speaker 1: They did. They did plunge the depths of the poly
Speaker 1: Shore character for something. But yeah, it was just like
Speaker 1: it's like you only ever saw like seeing that having
Speaker 1: an access and how they planned everything. The only piece
Speaker 1: of equipment I was able to relate to was the
Speaker 1: television on the cart because that was how you knew
Speaker 1: that we weren't doing anything but watching a movie in
Speaker 1: school in class that day. And I was like, and
Speaker 1: the way they elaborately set up the situation at the
Speaker 1: at the PA meeting, it was just like, man, you
Speaker 1: can do this. And then as I as just like
Speaker 1: doing research and everything, And what really started me down
Speaker 1: that road was being introduced to how redlining was handlishly.
Speaker 1: And I was initially introduced when I first watched the
Speaker 1: original Candyman movie because they explained the Cabrini Green situation
Speaker 1: between Helen Lyles condos versus the Cabrini Green apartment and
Speaker 1: how they were both created and they were able to
Speaker 1: pass her building office condos because it was on the
Speaker 1: other side of the bridge. And that's how I learned
Speaker 1: about redlining and researching that then also seeing how it
Speaker 1: affected the public school system, especially here in Detroit. One
Speaker 1: of the examples that I made, it's like and depending
Speaker 1: on some suburban schools, they don't necessarily have to raise
Speaker 1: funds in order to have their scholastic book fair, but
Speaker 1: we had to sell a little Caesar's cookie dough in
Speaker 1: order to do that, and it was like definitely meant
Speaker 1: to the majority of my elementary schools were pretty much
Speaker 1: down the street and around the corner. The prestigious schools
Speaker 1: in the Detroit which are cast Technical High School where
Speaker 1: I graduated from, Martin Luther King Junior High School, and
Speaker 1: Renaissance High School, the big three you had to test
Speaker 1: in or audition in. Through the arts, and of course
Speaker 1: there is Detroit School of Final Performing Arts, which is
Speaker 1: when in midtown, where you also clearly had to audition
Speaker 1: there because it's a performing school. Everything else was like
Speaker 1: you would have to be considered, you know, not as
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say they weren't also like pretty
Speaker 1: pretty much in the same boat despite despite me looking
Speaker 1: out and being in one of the Big three, um
Speaker 1: and just just experiencing that. So I know, I know
Speaker 1: individuals who didn't go to those high schools and went
Speaker 1: to other ones around like I think Coolly. I think
Speaker 1: we had our we have our own, had our own
Speaker 1: Cooley High as well. Experiencing that and then and seeing
Speaker 1: how it related to a Goofy movie and seeing how
Speaker 1: people saw what Max was willing to do and everything
Speaker 1: like that. To mention the fact that it's one of
Speaker 1: the only pieces of media, which is something I also
Speaker 1: say in my video say that has been successfully written
Speaker 1: by a gen xer that has allowed millennials to relate
Speaker 1: to it. One of the writers for Bill, the Bill
Speaker 1: and te Trilogy helped write a Goofy movie, and I
Speaker 1: thought it was very well done. I thought, I thought
Speaker 1: he really did his homework as far as like taking
Speaker 1: what he experienced as a gen xer, seeing how it
Speaker 1: applies to millennials and making it more and making it
Speaker 1: relatable to that target demographic as opposed to just recycling
Speaker 1: his own experiences and hoping that there's something to latch onto. Yeah,
Speaker 1: of the many great segments, that was one that honestly,
Speaker 1: I had not really considered because I knew his history,
Speaker 1: but I wasn't super familiar with Bill and Ted or.
Speaker 1: I just think it's fascinating when and like encouraging when
Speaker 1: a writer is willing to grow, because most don't seem
Speaker 1: interested and like that is why euphori. Yeah, Yeah, that's exactly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think one of the ways that this is
Speaker 1: most obvious as far as the writer being willing to
Speaker 1: understand the millennial experience is in another observation you made
Speaker 1: about a Goofy movie, which is the differences in the
Speaker 1: way that Pete raises PJ versus how Goofy raises Max,
Speaker 1: and how the kind of like quote unquote under the
Speaker 1: thumb approach to parenting that Pete takes feels very familiar
Speaker 1: to many black millennial kids whose parents learned this kind
Speaker 1: of parenting style from a religious Christian context. Plus generational trauma. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's very much a passing down of let's just be honest,
Speaker 1: everything resorts back to white supremacy in one way or another.
Speaker 1: It's generational trauma that started with the slave trade. And
Speaker 1: depending on how one has interpreted religion since then, has
Speaker 1: allowed it to take heed of how they identify to
Speaker 1: raise their children. And that's partially the reason why there's
Speaker 1: kind of like a disconnect between how some black individuals
Speaker 1: view white individuals raising their children and how the difference
Speaker 1: is between as of course, we've all heard that. We've
Speaker 1: all heard the jokes about how, like, you know, black
Speaker 1: family will watch a white family and a target let
Speaker 1: their kid run rampant and not do any disciplinary things
Speaker 1: and be like, that wouldn't be my child. We've all
Speaker 1: heard those jokes and sometimes and of course we've all
Speaker 1: have we've all experienced their very white privileged kid being
Speaker 1: able to like freely curse of their parents call them
Speaker 1: by their first names, and have black individuals and individuals
Speaker 1: of color look at that situation and see the blatant
Speaker 1: disrespect and be like that ship wouldn't happen to me, though,
Speaker 1: it's just like at the same time, we also tend
Speaker 1: to look at individuals in slightly healthier relationships with their
Speaker 1: parents and their child had that type of like respect
Speaker 1: that also promotes like mutual friendship with between the parents
Speaker 1: and the child, and also see that as just as foreign.
Speaker 1: And it's mostly because we've never experienced that, and because
Speaker 1: we've seen how they are willing, like because of how
Speaker 1: they were raised, they aren't willing to give that same
Speaker 1: amount of respect because they don't they've never known how
Speaker 1: to do that. Like one of the biggest, one of
Speaker 1: the biggest jokes within black community, within Black starting Black
Speaker 1: millennials and you know gen Z and everything and everyone
Speaker 1: else younger than boomers lately have then the main way
Speaker 1: a black parent apologizes to their black child is to
Speaker 1: ask them what they want to eat. It's never the
Speaker 1: best way a Black pararenologizes to their black child is
Speaker 1: to say I'm sorry. It's doing everything else. The fact
Speaker 1: that we have at least two to three generations of
Speaker 1: parents never acknowledging that they were wrong about something, or
Speaker 1: that they were sorry about something, or that they should
Speaker 1: have done things better, and that us now that we
Speaker 1: are at the being parents are just now making the
Speaker 1: active decision to actually like break that like line of
Speaker 1: generational trauma. And I mean gen xers have done it before. Also,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know my parents. My parents are boomers, So
Speaker 1: I have to look at my sisters and see and
Speaker 1: see how they have decided, and even they mess up
Speaker 1: as well, and they take things out of situation because
Speaker 1: you have some of those gen xers that they understand
Speaker 1: the rebellion of dealing with their boomer parents. They still
Speaker 1: have some aspects about their parents that you know, they
Speaker 1: still hold on to because there's most beaus of the
Speaker 1: set in their ways. So it's just like exploring aspect
Speaker 1: and seeing how that projected with Pete and PJ and
Speaker 1: Goofy and Max, and just seeing how weird it was
Speaker 1: to see that relationship play out with Goofy and Max.
Speaker 1: It reminded me of a lot of the FOREI reality
Speaker 1: of how some black parents look at not just not
Speaker 1: just white parents, but just parents that have a mutual
Speaker 1: respect with their children to the point where it's just
Speaker 1: like they were able to have this relationship. And of
Speaker 1: course it doesn't really help that you have like the
Speaker 1: party moms like Amy Poehler and fucking mean girls to
Speaker 1: have that type of physical representation depending on what you're watching,
Speaker 1: but at the same time, it does exist, and it
Speaker 1: all goes back to the intersectionality aspect that I explained
Speaker 1: to the video. I think that was one of the
Speaker 1: reasons why black millennials seeing the world trip that Goofy
Speaker 1: and Max went on was so inspirational because it allowed
Speaker 1: them to see that it was possible for both parents
Speaker 1: and children to trust each other and see us in
Speaker 1: the road. That would happen because of how things have
Speaker 1: played out between the two, because of because just like
Speaker 1: I said in the video, none of this would have
Speaker 1: happened if Goofy just sat down with Max after school
Speaker 1: asked what the fun happen? Just believing the principle and
Speaker 1: just thinking that he's as a fucking gangbanger. It's just
Speaker 1: like the principal, Wallace Sean really fucked up their family
Speaker 1: like it was. It was bad. Yeah. And that's the
Speaker 1: third main observation you make in your video essay is
Speaker 1: the lack of communication between Max and Goofy feeling very
Speaker 1: close to home for many black nineties kids because of
Speaker 1: this generational gap between kids and their parents. And as
Speaker 1: you point out in your essay, and not to quote
Speaker 1: your own words back at you, but I loved the
Speaker 1: way you put this, so I'm gonna quote you. You say,
Speaker 1: despite multiple people being able to relate to this experience,
Speaker 1: this is something that can be one hundred percent understood
Speaker 1: and relatable to black millennials who felt the pressure of
Speaker 1: growing up being pleasant, hardworking, and unthreatening in order to
Speaker 1: thrive in a world that, while still mirrors the one
Speaker 1: your parents did grow up in, is making strides and
Speaker 1: getting better in ways to allow yourself your freedom of
Speaker 1: expression as much as it allows your white counterparts. So
Speaker 1: sound familiar. Yeah, did you say that already? Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's It's definitely along the lines of the code, the
Speaker 1: code for that as far as the black lexicon is. Hey,
Speaker 1: sometimes black kids want to do white people should too,
Speaker 1: and sometimes and I've seen this, I've seen this play out.
Speaker 1: A proper example was being raised to believe that not
Speaker 1: necessarily believe, but race is see because of who your
Speaker 1: parents are, that there are just some things that we
Speaker 1: as African Americans shouldn't really do because of the fact
Speaker 1: of we see everything going on in the world. We
Speaker 1: see what our parents dealt with, and we see what
Speaker 1: we have to deal with now. But at the same time,
Speaker 1: we also grew up with Power Rangers, and we saw
Speaker 1: the Power Rangers movie, and some of us want to
Speaker 1: fucking skydive, and and some of our black parents it's like,
Speaker 1: why the fuck would you want to skydive, that's some
Speaker 1: white people's shit, and it's just like, but they made
Speaker 1: it look so cool and I hate was doing it.
Speaker 1: So there are black people's skydiving and it's just like
Speaker 1: And it's very much along the lines of like. The
Speaker 1: lack of communication definitely drolls back with like black parenthood
Speaker 1: and black children, with the children feeling like because the
Speaker 1: parents are so set in their ways, they can't rely
Speaker 1: on them to talk about anything. The closest thing I
Speaker 1: can come to compare it with is like a queer
Speaker 1: child who wants to let their parents know that they
Speaker 1: are queer, but doesn't know how they would react if
Speaker 1: they tell them. And I definitely experienced that. I didn't
Speaker 1: come out to my mom until I was like like
Speaker 1: thirty one. But the lack of not necessarily communication, the
Speaker 1: lass of trust, and that lack of trust is present
Speaker 1: because the children have seen how the parents react to
Speaker 1: everything else in the world. See how they react to
Speaker 1: something that they have done when they were younger, See
Speaker 1: how they react to their older or younger siblings, See
Speaker 1: how they react to news outlets like one of the
Speaker 1: reasons why it took me so long to come out
Speaker 1: to my mom was because the year that I planned
Speaker 1: to come out to my mom, my sister came out
Speaker 1: to my mom as bi curious not to say that
Speaker 1: Will and Grace is right about certain stereotypes, but ohn Christmas,
Speaker 1: and it was just like, oh, if she's doing that,
Speaker 1: then I'm just going to I'm just going to back
Speaker 1: up here and wait until that colds down, and um
Speaker 1: maybe and maybe maybe just wait a bit. But yeah.
Speaker 1: So it's like that that lack of trust and while
Speaker 1: it's definitely relatable regardless of your ethnicity, um, it's me
Speaker 1: as black individual and seeing other black individuals experience that
Speaker 1: same aspect and then seeing it play out. That lack
Speaker 1: of communication and that wants to tell your parents about
Speaker 1: something but not being able to because you know, I
Speaker 1: don't know how they're going to react was definitely relatable
Speaker 1: and I love that. Like in this movie specifically, it's
Speaker 1: I don't know, like hopefully parents can get a lot
Speaker 1: out of it too, of just like watching a communication
Speaker 1: issue be resolved in like a kind of messy but
Speaker 1: kind of loving way. Yeah yeah, and hopefully not having
Speaker 1: to ruin the auto insurance of your car by having
Speaker 1: it go down a fucking waterfall were we were talking.
Speaker 1: We didn't mention that live show, but like, yeah, the
Speaker 1: car falls down a waterfall, and then Goofy's like, well,
Speaker 1: we got to get to this damn concert, and then
Speaker 1: cut to the car is pulling up to the concert.
Speaker 1: I'm Michael. I guess they figured it out and then
Speaker 1: drove all the way back across the country to exactly
Speaker 1: the east coast somewhere is and then explode. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: think Ohio, the map said they started off. Oh okay,
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell. Something so fascinating about movies and just
Speaker 1: storytelling in general is how, based on an individual viewers
Speaker 1: experience and circumstances that they can watch something and observe
Speaker 1: and interpret things very differently from how someone else of
Speaker 1: a different background would experience and interpret the events of
Speaker 1: the story or just the relationship dynamics of the story,
Speaker 1: which speaks to a bigger problem in media, which is
Speaker 1: just the lack of representation of visibly seeing black people
Speaker 1: on screen, or visibly seeing any marginalized group on screen,
Speaker 1: because so often marginalized people have to take media that
Speaker 1: is sort of just like by default or assumed like
Speaker 1: the assumed default situation for the characters is that they
Speaker 1: are cis head, white, probably middle class, able bodied, neurotypical.
Speaker 1: The list goes on and assuming that oh yeah, most
Speaker 1: audiences will be able to relate to that, and it
Speaker 1: leaves marginalized viewers having to follow the crumbs and be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: here are the ways that I can see myself represented
Speaker 1: in this media that is clearly not written with them
Speaker 1: in mind right, And I feel that with a Goofy
Speaker 1: movie they were able to successfully they and by they
Speaker 1: I mean African America, We're able to ide ideally identify
Speaker 1: successfully with it all of these aspects about it because
Speaker 1: well subconsciously of course, and then of course there's visually
Speaker 1: a power line. But one thing I failed to mention
Speaker 1: in my video say that my friend and fellow YouTuber
Speaker 1: Ed Bowley aka Eddic also noted in his video about
Speaker 1: exploring what is a goof is that in a way,
Speaker 1: Goofy and the goof species is pretty much a reclamation,
Speaker 1: as an African American reclamation of like a very like
Speaker 1: slur of a race, because there was a period where
Speaker 1: individuals looked at goof as like the stereotypical, like post
Speaker 1: slavery depiction of a of a free African American, and
Speaker 1: I feel it was a subconscious reclamation, just like we
Speaker 1: reclaimed the N word. So that's why you have individuals
Speaker 1: who are all like, you know, every goof pretty much
Speaker 1: every goof is black. And at the same time, once
Speaker 1: you see that reclamation and then once you apply it
Speaker 1: to how we as African Americans see ourselves, it's pretty
Speaker 1: much the snow brainer. And this aspect was also explored,
Speaker 1: surprisingly enough in the Atlanta episode. Yes that that did
Speaker 1: the mockumentary of the quote unquote first black Ceosney that
Speaker 1: made the Goofy movie, and and that everybody immediately just
Speaker 1: saw my video about it and be like, yo, did
Speaker 1: Donald Glover watch this video? But while he was writing
Speaker 1: this script, I went back and watched that because I
Speaker 1: went back and watched that section of the episode to
Speaker 1: be like, wow, this is it's it? Does I feel
Speaker 1: like someone watched it to miss quote Wallace Sean, it's conceivable. Yes, yes, um,
Speaker 1: but yeah, they also they also touched on because that
Speaker 1: is actually one of the aspects about Goofy as a character,
Speaker 1: and then that has translated onto the the goof race
Speaker 1: in the Disney verse or whatever. As far as the
Speaker 1: reclamation we've I've whereas I've seen us reclaim the N word,
Speaker 1: like consciously. It really does feel like claiming Max and
Speaker 1: the entire world of goof Troop as ours feels like
Speaker 1: a subconscious reclamation of it considering what the original like
Speaker 1: translation of it was as far as like the menstruls,
Speaker 1: like slacker or like the lazy good for nothing that's
Speaker 1: usually like picked it with black folk after slavery, and
Speaker 1: I so attracts it tracks, And I didn't realize until
Speaker 1: after Ice. Until after both I saw ed Boli's video
Speaker 1: about exploring that and then seeing how that was used
Speaker 1: to like quote unquote explain the piece of Goofy and
Speaker 1: a Goofy movie in the inlant episode. So it's just like,
Speaker 1: you know, every everything tracks absolutely. I also saw from
Speaker 1: the YouTube channel Black Nerd Problems saying that this is
Speaker 1: the blackest Disney movie of all time, citing how Max
Speaker 1: is a black nerd, how he was judged and misunderstood
Speaker 1: by the principle based on his baggy clothes. He cites
Speaker 1: the casting of Kevin Campbell's powerline and the performance at
Speaker 1: the end of the movie. Writer Austin Williams, who wrote
Speaker 1: a piece in Vice called the enduring legacy of Disney's
Speaker 1: black Millennial classic, A Goofy movie brings up similar points,
Speaker 1: such front up the fact that there that Bobby Brown
Speaker 1: did record music for this and then they just made
Speaker 1: it be sides on his next album, And so there
Speaker 1: is like proof that Tevin Campbell was the correct choice
Speaker 1: because you can hear what Bobby Brown recorded and it
Speaker 1: just doesn't compare, doesn't quite hit the same way. But yeah,
Speaker 1: Austin Williams cited the white boy Bobby that's the poly
Speaker 1: shore cheeways kid getting in just as much trouble as Max,
Speaker 1: but somehow feeling way less worried about his parents finding
Speaker 1: out the part where the principal calls Goofy and says
Speaker 1: that you know this teenage boy sent his classmates into
Speaker 1: a quote riotous frenzy dressed as a gang member and
Speaker 1: advising Goofy to get a handle on the way he
Speaker 1: raises his son. And then Austin also says that anyone
Speaker 1: who claims Max goof wasn't an early depiction of hashtag
Speaker 1: black boy joy is either a liar or a white person.
Speaker 1: I thought that was funny. Why not exactly, do you
Speaker 1: have anything else you would like to add to this discussion.
Speaker 1: Laurun Goofy movie is a classic, and it definitely holds
Speaker 1: up even now. It's still one of my favorite go tos.
Speaker 1: Whereas I'm happy that we received an extremely Goofy movie
Speaker 1: and we see a continuation, I'm not going to just
Speaker 1: say that because it's focusing on completely different than it
Speaker 1: doesn't hit the same because it depends on your background
Speaker 1: and everything like that. Like, there was definitely an era
Speaker 1: of my life in which all that was on my
Speaker 1: television was like like MTVFS Network when I first left
Speaker 1: home for the first time, because I wanted to explore
Speaker 1: a lot of things that you know, I couldn't necessarily
Speaker 1: explore him under the roof of my parents. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, I always end up going back to
Speaker 1: the original movie and just being comforted by slight how
Speaker 1: many aspects about my life are properly displayed in the film,
Speaker 1: and I know a lot of other people do as well. Amazing,
Speaker 1: and that's a beautiful thing. And now we all start
Speaker 1: doing the dance. Yeah, pretty much. Also good on power
Speaker 1: Line for allowing for allowing two random stranges on his
Speaker 1: stage and not having them having security merely tackle them,
Speaker 1: really dealt with that so smoothly. He was like, all right,
Speaker 1: let's let's see what they have to say. I was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: what a nice a nice guy truly so accommodating to
Speaker 1: Max and Goofy. Goofy did kill that mine though. We
Speaker 1: can't forget that. You can get away with the Laddin
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Speaker 1: much for having me. This was really fun. Okay, and
Speaker 1: that's uh, that's the episode. Although we have not yet
Speaker 1: given our Nipple ratings, you and me, we we just
Speaker 1: got so damn excited and um, Caitlin, now that we've
Speaker 1: we've had some time to really cook on this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what are you? What are you? What are you? Given?
Speaker 1: A Goofy movie nineteen ninety five, I'm going to give
Speaker 1: it to Nipples because the movie, while it does have
Speaker 1: a more positive representation of father son relationships, which famously
Speaker 1: all movies are about. But this movie, as we've discussed,
Speaker 1: has I think a more nuanced and compelling version of
Speaker 1: this relationship dynamic, which I appreciate. It does really fail
Speaker 1: to include women in any meaningful way except for a
Speaker 1: love interest who is mostly off screen and who Max
Speaker 1: goof lies to the entire store. Okay, yeah for roxand
Speaker 1: justice for Roxanne. Oh maybe she's in the sequel. Oh
Speaker 1: wait she's Oh she's not. Oh wait, she's written out
Speaker 1: of history. But as we discussed with Laurn, this movie
Speaker 1: having such a huge legacy among black millennials, and like,
Speaker 1: that's something that I also appreciate. So I don't know,
Speaker 1: maybe i'll bump it up to a two and a half.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go two and a half. Okay, I'll do
Speaker 1: two and a half, and i'll give them too. I'll
Speaker 1: give one to Roxanne. Yeah, I will give one to
Speaker 1: the woman in the car who is like coded as
Speaker 1: crazy Cat lady Yes on the open Road montage. She's
Speaker 1: a legend, she is all she's It's like the Ariana
Speaker 1: Debaus lady in the car. You are all of us,
Speaker 1: she is, Yes, So I'll give one nipple to her,
Speaker 1: and I'll give my half nipple to the nice relationship
Speaker 1: dynamic between Max and Goofy because yes, again it's it's
Speaker 1: a better version of that than we generally see. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so there that's who gets my nipples. I'm going two
Speaker 1: and a half as well. I think this movie, as
Speaker 1: we've discussed with both guests, have a has a really
Speaker 1: unique legacy, um and I don't want to you know,
Speaker 1: discount that or downplay that. And also I am glad
Speaker 1: that you know, over time there are now you know
Speaker 1: there there's uh more, there's just more in general, I
Speaker 1: think for nineteen five and better exactly, there's better movies
Speaker 1: than a goofy movie series. But yeah, I mean in
Speaker 1: terms of representation, I think it's like a really fascinating
Speaker 1: kind of flash point that so many black millennials saw
Speaker 1: themselves in this movie. And I also am glad that,
Speaker 1: you know, like young black viewers now have a lot more.
Speaker 1: They they still should have more on top of more,
Speaker 1: but it's like more and more more. It's a yeah,
Speaker 1: technical term called more and more in terms of we
Speaker 1: are in terms of how this you know, we've talked
Speaker 1: about it. There's Roxanne is a likable character, and I
Speaker 1: still really like that scene where she and Max are
Speaker 1: trying to flirt and they're just like awkward kids. But
Speaker 1: that's kind of the most you get out of her.
Speaker 1: You don't get anything outside of that, and then she's
Speaker 1: disappeared in future installments, which is a big old bummer. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm going to give it two and a half interesting legacy,
Speaker 1: a romp and a half. Sure this is actually a
Speaker 1: movie about fathers and sons that I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 1: we can keep fine, we can put it fine, fine, fine,
Speaker 1: And with that, I think that's our a goofy movie.
Speaker 1: Saga has this this episode we've been recording in segments
Speaker 1: over the course of over a month, now months, in
Speaker 1: multiple states. I think, so here it is a goofy movie.
Speaker 1: Saga has come to a close, and I feel good
Speaker 1: about it until adel an extremely goofy movie. The episode.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that that one is going to be
Speaker 1: so we should do that on the Matreon or something,
Speaker 1: because that whole movie is like a weirdly like long
Speaker 1: promotion for the fact that Disney at the time had
Speaker 1: just purchased ESPN, Like it's so weird. Anyways till then,
Speaker 1: uh yu yuck. Well, just once again, thank you to
Speaker 1: our guests Danny and Laurn. Yes, thank you to the
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