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Speaker 1: it's us and we are bringing you a live show

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Speaker 1: that we recorded. Wow. I think those are very pragmatic.

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Speaker 1: And so that's why we covered a goofy movie with

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Speaker 1: a theater show. Enjoy cast. Welcome to the Bechtel Cast.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for coming, everybody. And I'd be honest,

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Speaker 1: We should say her name. Yes, I'm Caitlin Dronte. I'm

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Speaker 1: Jamie Loftus and and this is our podcast about your

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Speaker 1: If you've been to one of our live shows before.

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Speaker 1: one of the tropes that is in this movie that

417
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 1: like it's just like, yeah, it's nineteen ninety five is

418
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,240
Speaker 1: going to be there where it's like she's like a

419
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: preteen girl. And so when her dad comes to the door,

420
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: he's like like, but he's like a real dog. He's

421
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:38,960
Speaker 1: the only the only doge. He's a real dog. Really,

422
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: he's literally like he only barks and growls. Who's the

423
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: guy from a Mystic River? Is it Sean Penn? Who's

424
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,479
Speaker 1: who's a horrible person? But like, but the guy's like

425
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: my daughter, you know, like that's Rock Sands. He's like

426
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: hulking over. Poor's a bulldog. She's a bulldog. I just

427
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: play that together. Oh yeah, okay, yeah, okay, hang on this. Okay,

428
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: so we're gonna get to a part where they're on

429
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: the road on the open road, and there they pass

430
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: a car where a woman is driving and she has

431
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: several pet cats in how are do those cats exist

432
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:22,960
Speaker 1: in this universe? And then also Pete and Pja are cats. Well,

433
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: there's there are no rules when it comes to shaming

434
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: women for owning cats. It doesn't matter what species they are.

435
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: If a woman owns a cat, she's pathetic. Yeah yea. Anyways, okay,

436
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: so my cat starving to death at home while I

437
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: say this, Okay, so Roxanne is like, I'm going to

438
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: go to the party with someone else. So Max makes

439
00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: up a lie that his dad is taking him to

440
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: the power Line concert in la and that Max will

441
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: be joining power Line on stage for the final number.

442
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: This is nineties teen cannon, where if there's a teenage

443
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: boy character in the nineties, he's going to lie for

444
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: unprompted to start the plot, like it's just what he's

445
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 1: gonna do. M So he has told this lie to Roxanne,

446
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: and then Max and Goofy set off with a map

447
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: of the route that all the places Goofy went with

448
00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,320
Speaker 1: his dad, because there needs to be another father son

449
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,239
Speaker 1: dynamic layered into the movie. Is it weird that I

450
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: wanted to know? How and when Goofy's father died. They

451
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: referenced him many times, and then like Max was like, oh,

452
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: I guess you were close with him. Huh. I'm like,

453
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: did he die before you were born? Like? When did

454
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 1: Goofy's father die? You know that's wild. He probably died

455
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: when he was like fifteen, like dog ears, yes, dad

456
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,160
Speaker 1: was his dad was like fifteen years old. That's the problem. Okay,

457
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: that was that was wigging me out for an extremely

458
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: Goofy movie, which came out in two thousand, takes place

459
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: in two thousand and then Goofy's like when I was

460
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 1: in college in the seventies and You're like, are you

461
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: a dog or not? What species are you? That you're

462
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:25,720
Speaker 1: alive and in your forties? Like, it doesn't make sense.

463
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:29,440
Speaker 1: I just thought, I like, was Goofy's down? Did he

464
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: die in a dog way? Did he or did he

465
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: die in a person What is that? Like? Hit by

466
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: a car? Goofy probably killing him? No, Goofy killed his

467
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: dad with his driving, his bad, bad driving. What if

468
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: Goofy's dead eight too many eminem's that's a dog way

469
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,120
Speaker 1: to die. I would do that, chocolate. I couldn't do that.

470
00:32:56,120 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 1: There he got into someone's advent calendar. Yeah, yuck, mournful

471
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 1: of yuck, yuck. You know he you know, he says

472
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: that when he's coming again, canonically the only Disney character

473
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: that's had sex, he of our main five Goofy Fox.

474
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: It's true. I mean, well asked the internet. We can't know.

475
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,719
Speaker 1: We can't know. Okay. So they set up on this

476
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: trip and Max is very resentful about being there. They

477
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: fight over what to play on the radio. They sing

478
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: a song about being on the open road. They go

479
00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: to this roadside attraction, Lester's Possum Park, where Goofy embarrasses Max.

480
00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: Then PJ and his dad Pete, because we figured out

481
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: so like Goofy's name prior to this franchise was like

482
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:08,920
Speaker 1: goof is pe dog, which I think we can all

483
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:14,360
Speaker 1: agree as innovative and fat, but in the context of

484
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: this franchise appears to be Goofy goof Yes, and then Pete,

485
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: according to the Wikipedia page we learned is named Pete

486
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 1: Pete yes, because PJ is called PJ Pete, which will

487
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: make him Pete Junior Pete. Yes. Okay, but this is

488
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 1: not that different for Latino families. I'm sorry, Maya, Bilo's

489
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: name is Fernando Fernandez, so okay, okay, conceited, So wow,

490
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 1: like Pete is Latino, I mean representation matters, it really does.

491
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: Pete also has Maybe that explains Pete's tail because I

492
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: was also like losing my mind over Pete's tail. Pete's

493
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 1: tail shows up at this sequence of the movie. We're

494
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: Pete now the dogtail. That's what a cat's tail. It's

495
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,359
Speaker 1: like a little it could be a little catstail. Oh

496
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: you're right now, Yeah, what species are they? He's a

497
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: bob maybe a bob cat. Okay, in this world, can

498
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: you be half cat and half dog? Like I don't

499
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: apparely you could be half dog half cow. I don't know.

500
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,799
Speaker 1: It's the world keeps it ambiguous, and I think for

501
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: the sake of pornographers everywhere, it should say that way.

502
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: It's perfect. I think that that's good. Okay, So PJ

503
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: and Pete Pete show up. They're also camping, but sorry,

504
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: they're glamping because they show up in like this huge

505
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: obvious way. He makes that much money working at sears

506
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: right right, he has murdered some people. He's in the mafia.

507
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 1: We're like, what did Pete's dad do for a living

508
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 1: that they have that kind of money? Nepo, baby, nepo.

509
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: Oh okay. So Goofy is like, oh, Pete, I feel

510
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,160
Speaker 1: like I'm driving Max further away. Maybe I should back off,

511
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 1: And Pete is like, no, you have to be a

512
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:32,320
Speaker 1: mean daddy. So I'm sorry. I was very sensual. I

513
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: think Goofy goes yeah, you know the fan art is

514
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: out there. Okay, Goofy and Pete forgetting in the Camper,

515
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 1: I'm sure. Okay. So Goofy is trying to be a

516
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 1: mean bad daddy now and and he's like Max, we

517
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 1: have to go fishing right now. And he shows Max

518
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: how to fish, and he keeps talking about the perfect cast,

519
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 1: and I'm like, the perfect cast? Is he talking about

520
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 1: the Bechtel cast? Okay? Literally fishing? Goofy taught me. Well,

521
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 1: my thought was, we're saying a dog knows how to fish,

522
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: but I don't know, you know, like Goofy, he's not

523
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,640
Speaker 1: competent at many things. And so the fact that he

524
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,840
Speaker 1: knows how to fish, I saluted him from on that

525
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: he well, he isn't very good because he accidentally catches Bigfoot.

526
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: Or he's great because no one catches Bigfoot. That's the

527
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 1: whole thing true. I see your point. Okay, So this

528
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: does happen in the movie. He catches big Foot. Big

529
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,120
Speaker 1: Foot attacks and traps Goofy and Max in their car.

530
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 1: A what if Bigfoot is how dogs view humans? Like

531
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: what if that's the one human in this movie? It's

532
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Katzberg. They caught him. He actually a human, doesn't

533
00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: He have fingers? And they all have those like little

534
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: gloves They reference that in an extremely Goofy movie, when

535
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 1: PJ becomes a slam poet, he's like, are we always

536
00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 1: wearing gloves? And you're like, wow, PJ really found himself.

537
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I just wanted to take it off

538
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:42,439
Speaker 1: and it's just bones. Okay, So there's humans canonically, that's us, okay,

539
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,480
Speaker 1: yeah like that. Yeah, And this human slash Bigfoot, is

540
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:51,439
Speaker 1: terrorizing Goofy and Max, and Max starts to realize that

541
00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,759
Speaker 1: Goofy is just trying his best and Max should go

542
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 1: easier on his dad because they love each other. And

543
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: then also Max can sitters writing to Roxanne to tell

544
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 1: her that he lied, but then he's like no, He's like, wait,

545
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: I'm a boy in the nineties. I would never tell

546
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: the truth. And then he does find the map, and

547
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: so while Goofy is sleeping, Max reroutes their trip to

548
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: la instead of them going to Idaho, and they had

549
00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: the most heartbreaking moment the high Dad Sup hid. Somebody

550
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 1: in Rotten Tomatoes said this movie has no heart, and

551
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: I don't know I could tell they were like gen

552
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: X or something. That's so was like, that is like,

553
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: this movie's all hard, that's so wild. I feel like

554
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,480
Speaker 1: their X has to be in it or something. Polly

555
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: Shore's X gave a scathing review to Courtney Love. Really,

556
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, Dad. I'm sure he's did everybody who

557
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 1: is the nineties. It's true, everyone did everybody? Yes, yeah,

558
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: that high dad soup? Was that? Like? I mean that

559
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: makes me cry every time I see it for those

560
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 1: soup for you? Yeah, you're googling, Oh my god, that's

561
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: really nice. There we'll tell you, um or who did Danny?

562
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: Do you want to explain? Yeah, I'll cry. Okay. So

563
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: he has alphabet soup and Goofy says, oh, you used

564
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 1: to write like cute little things to me, like hi Dad.

565
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 1: And then when he and you know this is after

566
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: they have a big blow up, and so he taps

567
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: Goofy on the shoulder and he hands him a cup

568
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 1: and inside of it it says, hi Dad. Out of

569
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 1: the soup. I think about it when I need to

570
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:51,640
Speaker 1: cry before an audition. Oh and Goofy does this thing

571
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: in the car because this is a big thing with

572
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,960
Speaker 1: her communication, which feels almost like a little out of

573
00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 1: character for Goofy. But whatever, But he's sort of like

574
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,879
Speaker 1: he's like, oh yeah, and then you would say I

575
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 1: love oh, and like he like didn't want to prompt

576
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: his son to say I love you. And then you're

577
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 1: just like, men are so broken even when they're Goofy,

578
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: that's so upseting. Okay, so then Goofy, after this nice

579
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 1: high dad soup moment, Goofy's like, you know what, son,

580
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: you can choose the rest of the stops on the

581
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,600
Speaker 1: way to Lake Destiny. And then there's this montage where

582
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 1: they go to an amusement park, they go to a

583
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: monster truck rally, there's a baseball game, they go to

584
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: a cave, they murder a mime, and Max and Goofy

585
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,719
Speaker 1: are getting along way better then, and I like that

586
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: in that sequence there is like a split. It's like

587
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: they are coming together in that sequence because they dart

588
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 1: by just doing things that Max wants to do. But

589
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,879
Speaker 1: then Max realizes that Goofy is not having as much

590
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 1: fun going to monster truck rallies because he's a fucking

591
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: square and and so then Max is like, let's kill

592
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 1: him im, which is one of the things Goofy wants

593
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: to do, is see He just wants to see am im.

594
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,879
Speaker 1: But then he doesn't seem upset the lifetime, But like

595
00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: I thought, it was that that was like a really

596
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: because this movie is like truly two minutes long, and

597
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: the ways that they save time but still like effectively

598
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: build the relationship was like, oh, they start by just

599
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: doing things that Max wants to do, but by the

600
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: end they are, you know, kill building Goofy's enemies. I

601
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 1: love that this movie keeps getting progressively shorter and you

602
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 1: keep looking at like, literally this movie's thirty seconds. I

603
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: blinked it was over, but I was crying. Um, okay,

604
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: so what happened? Sex they link up with Peach and

605
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:05,480
Speaker 1: Pete again. Pete overhears Max tell PJ that he changed

606
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 1: the map to take them to LA, and so Pete,

607
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: because he's a narc, tells tells Goofy about this. Goofy

608
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: sees the map and he is so sad that Max

609
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: would deceive Goofy like that. But Max keeps navigating them

610
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: to LA and Goofy is still really upset. They have

611
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: this big fight as their car is careening down a hill.

612
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,280
Speaker 1: They end up in the river. They're like saving time

613
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:36,520
Speaker 1: like wild in this movie because the climactic action scene

614
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: is also the climactic resolution between father and son where

615
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: they're screaming over this like VW that's crashing, and they're like,

616
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:52,880
Speaker 1: but June didn't listen to me effectively at school. It's awesome.

617
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 1: It's awesome, And so they make up finally, and Goofy

618
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,439
Speaker 1: is like, oh, I understand and that you're growing up,

619
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 1: but I just want to be a part of your life.

620
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: And Max is like, oh, Dad, maybe I take your

621
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: love and affection for granted. And then he tells Goofy

622
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: about Roxanne off screen, which sucks. Well. Then Goofy's like, well, shit,

623
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: let's get to the power Line concert because we have

624
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: to maintain this lie that you told God good dad, which,

625
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: to be fair, yeah, that is the greatest gift a

626
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:36,000
Speaker 1: parent can give their lying child. Has I have either

627
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: of your like, have your parents ever helped you maintain

628
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:44,479
Speaker 1: a lie before? Like that? Um? Okay no, I feel

629
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:47,839
Speaker 1: like my mom kept it a lie that I wasn't

630
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:53,280
Speaker 1: a virgin. Probably okay, Okay, there we go. They also

631
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 1: found this, Oh my gosh, this is so two thousands.

632
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: They found my mom I think found a smear and

633
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: off ice we had probably just one. Isn't that sad

634
00:45:04,080 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: that we probably like cycled between the four of us

635
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: in their glove compartment. And she also kept that from

636
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,840
Speaker 1: my father, so that's powerful. But he kept that he

637
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: had multiple other kids, So you know who was really

638
00:45:22,040 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: good at secrets learned from the best. Yeah, okay, okay,

639
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: Caitlin's overriding the question. All right, we cut to a

640
00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: oh okay, So Goofy's like, oh funk. We got to

641
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: get to this concert. And but first they have to

642
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,959
Speaker 1: escape from a waterfall and they save each other with

643
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: fishing lines via the Perfect Cast, the Bechtel Cast once again,

644
00:45:55,719 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 1: they start streaming our Armageddon ephisode and all of a

645
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 1: sudden they yeah, and it's a very tender moment. Cut too.

646
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: They have snuck backstage at the power Line concert in

647
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: La Roxanne is watching the concert on TV. Everyone's like,

648
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: where is Max? And then he shows up on stage. Max,

649
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 1: Goofy and power Line. Wait they also killed another person? Wait? Yes,

650
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: the crew guy that was just trying to do his job,

651
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: which he probably got paid like minimum wage and has

652
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: a family. He flew into the television. He at least

653
00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:39,799
Speaker 1: was hospitalized, well I will say at least. Teamsters are

654
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: usually unionized, but he did die. And then when that

655
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,720
Speaker 1: happened in Phantom of the opera, it was a really

656
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:52,479
Speaker 1: big deal. Yeah, it doesn't really matter how much health

657
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:57,480
Speaker 1: insurance you have when you're dead, um, when you get

658
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: killed by Goofy. But also everyone cheered he had coming. Okay,

659
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 1: so Powerline is totally fine that these two strangers are

660
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: on stage with him now and they're all doing a

661
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: dance and it's awesome and the people watching on TV

662
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: are loving it and everyone's friends back at home. So

663
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,400
Speaker 1: like Roxanne does that thing, the one face that she

664
00:47:27,480 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: makes where she's like, oh, yhuck, you know, like she's

665
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 1: doing that little face she does, and then and then

666
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: Polly Short goes, that's my friend or like whatever he says.

667
00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 1: But I love that's like one of my favorite moments

668
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 1: in the movie, when like, because that's like your dream

669
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: when you're a kid, to like do something and then

670
00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: have your friends be like they were cool actually and

671
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 1: have someone make the little face at you, Like that's

672
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: the best. I love that part. Yeah, it's very nice. Okay.

673
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: I have to say at this point my theory that

674
00:48:01,400 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: I think that power Line and Goofy are related because

675
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: when Goofy gets on there, Max says, do the perfect cast.

676
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 1: His dad starts to do the perfect cast, and then

677
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: power Line, seeing it, jumps in and finishes it with him.

678
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: How does he know the super secret Goofy family recipe? Whoa, whoa?

679
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:32,800
Speaker 1: All these dogs are related? If that's true, power Line

680
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 1: is a terrible relative for letting Goofy work at that

681
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: factory in an extremely movie and also just not hooking

682
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: them up with concertating. I don't think they're related. It's

683
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 1: like my dad's kids and ah Okay. People have literally

684
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 1: argued with me about this, like, no, he's just a

685
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 1: quick learner. He just saw what Goofy was doing and

686
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:06,320
Speaker 1: then he I was like no, he literally finishes the

687
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: cast with him. It's true unless he like uploaded it

688
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: to YouTube or something. But alternate theory. Um, you know

689
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 1: how some animals just have instincts. You know, geese just

690
00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: know to fly south for the winter. What if all

691
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: dogs know how to do the perfect cast instinctively? Okay? Whoa?

692
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: Like all dogs that are whatever the breed that is

693
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,240
Speaker 1: like a dog top of head, but a human bottom

694
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 1: of head, like Goofy and power Lines and also the cats.

695
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:44,160
Speaker 1: For some reason, I don't nobody asked for this, but

696
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: I really want a live action version of this movie.

697
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 1: Let's stay with me. And it's Jim Carrey's grinch, like

698
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:56,920
Speaker 1: that make up that would actually be great and shave

699
00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 1: that's brilliant. So the only thing just like, don't give

700
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:05,279
Speaker 1: it to Robert Zemeckis. Yeah, you just cannot give it

701
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,520
Speaker 1: to him. But yeah, you could give that to Ron Howard.

702
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 1: He's done it before. He did Jim Carrey grant not

703
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 1: to bring up Shrek, but bring up Shrek. Thank you.

704
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 1: I will um has differing Katzenberg factors into this movie. Yeah,

705
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,280
Speaker 1: a live action Shrek. Well did you did anyone see

706
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: the like AI rendering of like what Shrek would look

707
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 1: like if it was like a nineteen eighties fantasy live

708
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 1: action movie. Yes, this is some good we're getting. I

709
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:45,759
Speaker 1: was expecting that's we've really cultivated a toxic fan base. Anyway, Okay,

710
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: we need to move on. All right, they're dancing at

711
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,720
Speaker 1: the concert. Everything's great. Then we cut two Max and Goofy.

712
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: Arriving back home, Max goes to Roxanne. He confesses that

713
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 1: he lied that he didn't ever actually know power Line,

714
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 1: and she's like, why did you lie to me? I

715
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: would have liked do no matter what, And he's like, okay,

716
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 1: do you want to hang out Google and she's like yeah,

717
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:10,280
Speaker 1: and then and then I forgot to keep writing the recap,

718
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: so I forget. But that is kind of abruptly there, right, Okay, Yeah,

719
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 1: Goofy blows up. Yes, this car explodes, and that's kind

720
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 1: of the end of everyone makes up and everyone has

721
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: a great relationship. The end they don't even do that,

722
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: like Goofy blows up lands in Roxanne's house. Then her

723
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,160
Speaker 1: Max goes, Babe, this is my poppy and like that's it,

724
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: and then it's like dinner or whatever. However, that movie

725
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: is um all right, So that's that's the movie. Cover

726
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 1: it up for a Goofy. Well, where do we want

727
00:51:58,480 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: to start talking about this? I mean, Danny, what stands

728
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: out to you right away? Who do you want to

729
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: talk about? What do you want to talk about? I

730
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: love Max's style. I was so That's how I knew

731
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: I was by though I was like, I the biggest car.

732
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:20,759
Speaker 1: They purposely made them hot. That Lisa girl has tits.

733
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of the dog girls have tits.

734
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: And in an extremely Goofy movie, Max goes to college

735
00:52:30,680 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: and then every dog girl has like tits. It's like, oh,

736
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:37,600
Speaker 1: you know, who else you could be? The goth girls

737
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: on the bus, Yeah, I really loved them. They're not

738
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 1: like the other girls. They're no, they're listening to the

739
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 1: the Goofy Cure. They like they pierced each other's ears.

740
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: They're listening to bright goofy eyes. They're having a lot

741
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: of fun. No, but his style clearly he was like

742
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: mold after JTT, like that was the nineteen ninety five

743
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 1: Like yeah, I mean that totally. Like I think it's

744
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 1: so bizarre that, like when a character exists for this long,

745
00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:16,240
Speaker 1: eventually they become relatable in a very like generational sense.

746
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 1: It's so bizarre that Goofy was able to become yeah,

747
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:24,919
Speaker 1: a boomer dad like so, but there is I feel

748
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: like it was like best illustrated in the like a

749
00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: very like I don't know, like maybe like an obvious way,

750
00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: but like when they're switching the radio back and forth

751
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, it's like Bill Clinton Kid and

752
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:41,560
Speaker 1: JFK guy like are all he's literally turning on high

753
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 1: hopes that like JFK ran with that song and he's

754
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: like what about this look? And then he's like no,

755
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,919
Speaker 1: I like, you know, a good economy and a bunch

756
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: of fucked up stuff. You know, Max is gen X

757
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 1: and we have to sort of grapple with that, you know,

758
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: are you sure? Yeah? He was listening like van Halen

759
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: in there. He's fifteen in nineteen ninety five. You know,

760
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 1: it's like he's he's like kind of you know, he

761
00:54:07,480 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: was like seven dog years. Oh well, yeah, canonically Max

762
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 1: is dead. Max is like on the cusp of jen

763
00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 1: X and Max was born last year. Yeah, Max, I

764
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 1: mean either way, it's a non issue. He died opening

765
00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:35,480
Speaker 1: his eyes. Max died, So if he was fifteen and

766
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: dog years, he was alive for less than for like

767
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 1: a little over two years, which means he would have

768
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 1: been born in nineteen ninety three. So we're like Max

769
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,319
Speaker 1: and I are actually around the same age. He died

770
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 1: a long time ago, because then he would have died

771
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:54,359
Speaker 1: latest two thousand and eight. We can't do math. Well,

772
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 1: when was long? They made a goofy movie? Not past

773
00:54:56,800 --> 00:55:05,000
Speaker 1: two thousand mates, because Max died of all dame. What

774
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,880
Speaker 1: should we talk about? How this is a story about

775
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 1: fathers and sons. Yeah, that's a good story about fathers

776
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 1: and sons. I don't mind it. It's a nice one.

777
00:55:15,640 --> 00:55:17,439
Speaker 1: I wrote that, and I said, but a nice one

778
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: in my notes where because I mean the characters have

779
00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 1: to learn and grow in order to be able to

780
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: understand each other and like maintain and strengthen their relationship,

781
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,080
Speaker 1: which is usually not what father's son narratives are about.

782
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 1: So that was nice. You have like goofy he needs

783
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 1: to learn to except that his son is growing up.

784
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:44,279
Speaker 1: He needs to learn to respect his boundaries and learn

785
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: the best approach to parenting Max and then Max, I

786
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:52,880
Speaker 1: don't know, he just like needs to stopping a little shit. Yeah,

787
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: basically I feel like I do. I do like that.

788
00:55:57,640 --> 00:55:59,919
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of the traits that Goove

789
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:02,800
Speaker 1: he has in this movie are normally attributed to mothers,

790
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: and like that he's like overbearing, He like is really

791
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:10,719
Speaker 1: emotional in the way that he deals with his son,

792
00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 1: and it's like not that just is like who he is.

793
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,439
Speaker 1: And I think it's like, I don't know, I thought

794
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:19,000
Speaker 1: it was like a really like smart decision on the

795
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 1: part of I guess also the writers of like goof

796
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: Troop who established this. So shout out the writers of

797
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 1: goof Troop and of this movie. But because it like

798
00:56:30,239 --> 00:56:33,320
Speaker 1: it works really well with a character that is supposed

799
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,279
Speaker 1: to be kind of all over the place to make

800
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:40,280
Speaker 1: them like a very emotionally driven parent who doesn't quite

801
00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: get it, but like really really cares, because I feel

802
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: like fathers are really often characterized because of society reasons

803
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 1: and as being very like distant and cold and unkind.

804
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:59,480
Speaker 1: And it's like Goofy is not even a great dad really,

805
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 1: but he is a bad dad from a way that

806
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: we don't usually see. He's like really emotionally it's like

807
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:14,960
Speaker 1: the Goku of the Disney Universe. Yes, yeah, there's like

808
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,080
Speaker 1: in the nineties always had the dumb dad trope, you know,

809
00:57:18,120 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: like Home Improvement and The Simpsons and Family Guy and like,

810
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: but he actually is doing the two parent role. He's

811
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: both Lois and Peter. Yes, that's wild. He's stupid and

812
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: he's overbearing. I love it and it like and he

813
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: is like I mean even at the beginning, he's like

814
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: doing chores, like he does like maintain their house as

815
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: though he has titties covering them up. He has like

816
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: six nipples, well probably eight. That's just dog facts. With Caitlin,

817
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: thank you could be sex could be eight, you know,

818
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 1: depends on the dog hardness. Say yeah, we don't know

819
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 1: what species Goofy is because he's just scary looking. But yeah,

820
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 1: I mean, at the end of the day, it's both

821
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 1: characters needing to learn how to communicate their feelings in

822
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: a productive way, and that's not the story for male

823
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: characters usually. Yeah. And and instead of like this movie

824
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: doesn't really have a clear cut villain, I feel like

825
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: Pete because like you're saying, Danny, like Pete has a

826
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 1: history of being sort of a villain, but like it's

827
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: more just like there's two sets of fathers and sons

828
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: fucking it up in different ways, and Goofy and Max

829
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:40,680
Speaker 1: figure it out and Pja is just fucked. I suppose

830
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: it's just gonna have to like go on, you know

831
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: ssrse like the rest of us, do they have like

832
00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: I don't know who you would call, like the SPCA

833
00:58:52,320 --> 00:58:58,800
Speaker 1: or something I called the SPCA, oh myself. But I

834
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: mean what we do know from the sequel that he

835
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: gets really into poetry, which actually does make sense for

836
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: him as he get what everyone was like. Well as

837
00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: if that made we all have trauma to unpack and

838
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:15,440
Speaker 1: we've all done it via poetry. Um, yeah, but I

839
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: do like that in the absence of a clear cut villain.

840
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 1: We have like two very different kinds of like unhealthy

841
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: father son dynamics, and then we see Goofy and Max

842
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,720
Speaker 1: figure it out and like create a healthier dynamic and

843
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 1: meat in the middle, and Goofy is able like to

844
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:35,919
Speaker 1: in spite of the fact, according to Caitlyn being too

845
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: damn Goofy, he is able to buy observing how Pete

846
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 1: treats PJ, which is a very like domineering. Like there's

847
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: a scene where Goofy and Pete are in a hot tub.

848
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:56,440
Speaker 1: If you were there, you were there. They were in

849
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: certain fan arts. More happens in the movie. It was,

850
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: you know, like Pete is like, you know, you're you

851
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 1: want your son to like you. I want my son

852
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 1: to respect me, which are like two you know, different

853
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 1: toxic approaches to parenting. But but I think like Goofy

854
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,720
Speaker 1: learns sort of in that moment that it's like, oh,

855
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: being a domineering parent isn't going to achieve a healthy

856
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: relationship with my son, which is what I want, so

857
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 1: I have to try something different. And then also Max

858
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 1: is a fucking liar, so it's complicated. He can't stop lying. Max. Well, hey,

859
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: you get single dad representation. I'm starting to think they

860
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: must raise their kids like seahorses, because the women even

861
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: rock sand Oh yeah yeah. When you go to her house,

862
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: her dad like, I'm starting to think they have a pouch,

863
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 1: and so women just leave at eighteen the way those

864
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:02,880
Speaker 1: dogs come, I'm out looking. I would not disbelieve anything.

865
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 1: I was like, are they coming out of eggs? Like

866
01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 1: that is happening with these damn animals. I don't know.

867
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:16,120
Speaker 1: Something happened between the Pluto to Goofy line and they've

868
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:22,919
Speaker 1: what it was. Something something went very very past birthing them. Yeah,

869
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,800
Speaker 1: they're doing something else I did. I mean, it's like

870
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: that is like kind of a double edged sword, and

871
01:01:28,840 --> 01:01:31,600
Speaker 1: it again it's like a binary double edged sword too.

872
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: But it's like what because at this same time, because

873
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: this movie comes out ninety five, which is like squarely

874
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: in the middle of the Disney Renaissance, or I guess

875
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:45,000
Speaker 1: towards the end, and you have this series of mostly

876
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: princess protagonists who rarely have a mother. It's always addressed

877
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: in a vague impactful way, usually like your mother would

878
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: have blah blah blah, and you're like, who where is

879
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,800
Speaker 1: yet we don't know she ate too many M and

880
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: m's and she died. That's what happened to all the

881
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: Disney moms. Um but and but like, even though it

882
01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 1: is such a Disney trope that the mother is presumably dead,

883
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:22,280
Speaker 1: like it's always this looming bizarre thing over the story.

884
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: But in this movie, you're totally right, Dan, like they

885
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 1: it's like they never were because Goofy talks about his

886
01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:34,480
Speaker 1: father and that's kind of it. And what happens is

887
01:02:34,520 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 1: that means that there's like no women in the story,

888
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 1: which is like, well that I don't love that. But then,

889
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:44,920
Speaker 1: but how did rock Sand get there? How did rock

890
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:49,360
Speaker 1: Sand show up? How did any of them? You say

891
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 1: that Goofy has had sex, but I still talked about

892
01:02:55,720 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 1: the fan art, Okay, I don't know. Now I think

893
01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 1: like I don't know, they like take us out back

894
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 1: or something and like after you know, we're obsolete. Yeah,

895
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 1: I mean that was sort of because there were Caitlyn

896
01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:15,439
Speaker 1: and I know we can't go there. Do dogs put

897
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: other dogs down? A lot? A lot of I had

898
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: a lot of like what happens to the women dogs?

899
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 1: Like what happens because there are a few of them.

900
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:30,920
Speaker 1: There's like, for instance, the Wallas, Shawn's secretary has lived.

901
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:34,560
Speaker 1: But it's like, is it like fucking Nuremberg? Like what

902
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: did she have to do to survive? There are so

903
01:03:38,920 --> 01:03:44,760
Speaker 1: few this is women, Dogy darling, there's not a lot

904
01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:49,920
Speaker 1: of women who appear to survive to adulthood. I will say, mysteries.

905
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 1: Let me need the movie All Dogs Go to Heaven

906
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 1: is a sequel to a Goofy movie, or or maybe

907
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:02,240
Speaker 1: we're oversimplifying it by being like, oh, like women are

908
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,360
Speaker 1: inherently good, We're Goofy, you know, like Goofy's wife is

909
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: in hell. She I just realized what it is. One

910
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 1: one of those women can have like six puppies. So

911
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: it's kind of like y'all know when the lion king,

912
01:04:18,600 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: I know, mind blowing, you know when the lion King

913
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:25,080
Speaker 1: how Mufassa is actually Simba and Nala's dad And we

914
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:27,959
Speaker 1: know that, Yeah, because that's how prides work. There's only

915
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:30,560
Speaker 1: one male in the pride, so all those little kids

916
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: are actually all of his siblings. Um, so that's the

917
01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 1: same with this, so Roxanne and yeah, so the mom

918
01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 1: actually had six puppies. Yeah, as I would too, So

919
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:47,680
Speaker 1: that does so that would mean so if goofy is

920
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 1: everyone's dad what No, way, no, well one makes sense.

921
01:04:55,640 --> 01:05:00,160
Speaker 1: Way wait if goofy if wait are you saying I'm

922
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 1: getting confused? Is goofy fas? She's it works scoofy. No,

923
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 1: she's at a puppy mill. Like that's what's happening. When

924
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,800
Speaker 1: they've had several litters, they all owe them. Oh okay,

925
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,400
Speaker 1: and then they killed just one of them. There's just

926
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,400
Speaker 1: one mom for the just don't have a panic attack.

927
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, So but there's no so magasin

928
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: rock sand related water egg Okay, probably, Okay, it makes sense.

929
01:05:42,600 --> 01:05:46,480
Speaker 1: Someone's really upsesed. I'm so goofy is the moo fass.

930
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 1: I was like the goofy umseex with every other you

931
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:54,320
Speaker 1: know what told me that? My sixth grade science teacher. Yeah,

932
01:05:54,360 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 1: she got up in front of her class and was like, actually,

933
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:01,800
Speaker 1: simbonala are related? Yeah, it had an ax. Now I'm

934
01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 1: going to learn about periods. Yeah she did. She was divorced.

935
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 1: I love. I was like, if you're a teacher, and like, okay,

936
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:16,760
Speaker 1: teachers with my whole family a teachers to teach between

937
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:20,360
Speaker 1: sixth and tenth grade, you gotta have an axe to

938
01:06:20,440 --> 01:06:24,600
Speaker 1: grind or you're not gonna find like the thrill to continue. Yeah,

939
01:06:25,960 --> 01:06:29,360
Speaker 1: you gotta say something really fucked up every year? How

940
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: can I unnerve these little fuckers? Yeah, something unhinged. Yeah,

941
01:06:35,280 --> 01:06:37,280
Speaker 1: she was like Neil de grass Ties. That's something he

942
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:42,600
Speaker 1: would say amongst other thieves. Okay, okay, shall we talk

943
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 1: about rox Hands? Yes? Yeah? Why was she so hot

944
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:54,080
Speaker 1: in the beginning because he's having a nocturnal emission? Um,

945
01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:03,440
Speaker 1: I was seeing me and Caitlin's her band is goofy neutered.

946
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: Oh okay, we i um, we couldn't so wait that

947
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:14,760
Speaker 1: whole that totally undermines the move facea thing. No, he

948
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:20,000
Speaker 1: you know, after he had a few letters, after he

949
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: he looked a time or two. Wow. So anyway, rock

950
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 1: sand as a really so she's in the story because

951
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 1: she was the love interest of Max and then there

952
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 1: are basically no other women in their like female characters

953
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:46,680
Speaker 1: in the movie. Uh, there's Stacy, sure, but she could

954
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 1: be kind of taken out of the movie and not

955
01:07:48,680 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: much would change. But we love that she's there. Of course,

956
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:56,280
Speaker 1: as far as like the romance goes between, we already

957
01:07:56,280 --> 01:07:59,439
Speaker 1: stated that the whole story is built on a lie

958
01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 1: that Max told, which he maintains and which Goofy helps

959
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:09,400
Speaker 1: him maintain. But then he does come clean at the

960
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 1: very end and he says, Roxanne, I lie to you,

961
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 1: and she gets upset with him, calls him out, says like,

962
01:08:16,360 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 1: why did you lie to me? You did not need

963
01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 1: to do that. I would have liked you no matter what.

964
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 1: But then she says she literally does. She does, and

965
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: he does not apologize. He admits to lying, but not

966
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:36,000
Speaker 1: he doesn't really apologize for it, and then he does

967
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 1: surprise kiss her at the end. Yes, he definitely surprised

968
01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 1: kisses her. The way that the apologies you're dealt with

969
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: in the movie at that were bizarre because it was

970
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:49,400
Speaker 1: like no one explicitly says I'm sorry, but it felt

971
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:53,040
Speaker 1: it did feel like apologies were given. I don't know,

972
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: like in the scene where there's a long scene where

973
01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:00,879
Speaker 1: Goofy and Max are at sea on their are that's broken,

974
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,240
Speaker 1: they don't seem that worried about where they're going. At

975
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 1: one point, the car heads into a cave and they're like,

976
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 1: we should duck. It was like, you don't know what's

977
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:13,839
Speaker 1: in this cave. That's really scary. But it's a movie,

978
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 1: so fine. But they like. It's it's bizarre because they

979
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 1: seem to like emotionally hash things out and be honest

980
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:26,480
Speaker 1: with each other. The words I'm sorry or I apologize

981
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 1: aren't spoken. But it felt like that was a chief.

982
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, like I guess it like it maybe

983
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 1: like sort of wonder like well, especially in a movie

984
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 1: that came out in nineteen ninety five, I felt like

985
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 1: it was a pretty decent apology for someone who didn't

986
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 1: say I am sorry, true, you know, I'm sorry. The

987
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:46,960
Speaker 1: whole time you were talking, I just was thinking of

988
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 1: Goofy slipping him a rubber. I'm like, I'm you were

989
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:55,479
Speaker 1: like you were late? What you said? Oh yeah? This

990
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 1: so like he helped his son like carry out the line.

991
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: I could just see him like, here you go, kid,

992
01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:06,120
Speaker 1: you know, like be safe. Goofy does love safety except

993
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 1: for when he's driving. Um, oh my god. My dog

994
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: has never apologized to me, So I don't know if

995
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: it's in their vocabulary, that's right, Like maybe they have.

996
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: We also never saw them sniff a single butt, so

997
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 1: it's what are they Goofy's been alive for a hundred years.

998
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,880
Speaker 1: It's because I think every time Goofy kills he gets

999
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:37,280
Speaker 1: the remain time. That's why he can't That's why he's like,

1000
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:41,800
Speaker 1: oh I can't drive. You know, he's killing people all

1001
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:43,600
Speaker 1: the time. He's killing different dogs all the time, so

1002
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:49,559
Speaker 1: he can tuck everlasting them, you know, absorb their shit. Damn. Yeah, yeah, no,

1003
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 1: that's that's why they pay me the big pups um.

1004
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 1: But but yeah, I don't know, Like Roxton, the thing

1005
01:10:57,240 --> 01:11:00,519
Speaker 1: is the scenes where we get like a little glimpse

1006
01:11:00,520 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 1: into who Roxanne is. I really like her, Like she's

1007
01:11:03,240 --> 01:11:06,439
Speaker 1: a really really sweet and likable character. The scene with

1008
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 1: her and Max when they're like awkwardly kind of tripping

1009
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:14,240
Speaker 1: over each other in this very like teenage way. I

1010
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 1: thought that scene was really sweet. I just like wish

1011
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 1: you got more of it. I guess it's like you

1012
01:11:18,600 --> 01:11:20,800
Speaker 1: get to know that, like she does clearly have a

1013
01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 1: crush on Max and has for a while. She's really

1014
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:26,760
Speaker 1: excited to go to this party with him. We see

1015
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 1: her talk to Stacy a little bit, and like, you

1016
01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:34,040
Speaker 1: get these glimpses into like a fun teen character. But

1017
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 1: then she just disappeared for an hour. Because the movie

1018
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 1: is about fathers and sons and that's what happens all

1019
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: the time. Like, I feel like there was room in

1020
01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:50,040
Speaker 1: the movie because it's only one second low like blinking

1021
01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 1: you miss it, but like there was room in this

1022
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,800
Speaker 1: very short movie to like cut back to what was

1023
01:11:56,840 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 1: happening and she's just like hooking up with that hot

1024
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:03,920
Speaker 1: Varsity Yeah. Like I I like the glimpses we get

1025
01:12:03,960 --> 01:12:06,879
Speaker 1: of rock Sand, but I feel like we more often

1026
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:11,599
Speaker 1: see her in Max's fantasies than we actually see her

1027
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,880
Speaker 1: in real life, which is a bummer because like when

1028
01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:18,080
Speaker 1: you see her being a like, I don't know what

1029
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:21,720
Speaker 1: to call her, a dog, question mark, I don't know

1030
01:12:21,840 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 1: what is she? She's a dog, right, I can't. I

1031
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:28,479
Speaker 1: need to see the inside of her house. I just

1032
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 1: like we never get to see it. We always just

1033
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: see like a peak with her dad, Yeah, what's framed

1034
01:12:34,200 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 1: in there? And also have she and her family had

1035
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 1: their picture taken by Goofy at J C. Penney. It's interesting.

1036
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:49,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, like with roxand I really like her,

1037
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Speaker 1: but I feel like there's just like I just wish

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Speaker 1: there was more of her, and it makes it and

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Speaker 1: it's like a bummer because it makes it really easy

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Speaker 1: to extremely Goofy kill her off in the second movie.

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Speaker 1: Um because I feel like you didn't get enough of her,

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01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 1: because all like, Polly Shore and PJ come back in

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01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:09,679
Speaker 1: the second movie, and they're big players. PJ gets into

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01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:13,719
Speaker 1: slam poetry, Polly short he kind of stays the same,

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01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,759
Speaker 1: but they're they're both there. But rock Sand is gone.

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Speaker 1: It's a bummer. Um, okay, since we're wine, we're running

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Speaker 1: out of time. Yeah yeah, yeah, let's, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: figure out does this movie pass the Bactel test. I

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01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:40,480
Speaker 1: don't think so. It's actually a hard no, it definitely doesn't. Um,

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01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:44,080
Speaker 1: but but but but um, I would be curious, and

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Speaker 1: then we'll give our ratings. Dan, I know you have

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01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,680
Speaker 1: to get going, Danny. So, um, you are familiar with

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01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,639
Speaker 1: our nipple scale. Um, you know, one to five nipples

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01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:55,160
Speaker 1: based on how well it sort of fairs in terms

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Speaker 1: of intersectional feminism. So you don't want to skill and

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01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: one to five nipples? What would you be giving a

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01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 1: goofy movie? Do you think I have to give it

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01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 1: like eight nipples? Is that how many of you said

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01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 1: they have eight nipples? Yeah? Often? Yeah, okay, often. I

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01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:14,400
Speaker 1: don't know how how do you know that? I haven't

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01:14:14,439 --> 01:14:17,320
Speaker 1: looked at my dogs nipples? But I'm going around second.

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01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:20,599
Speaker 1: The second I get home, I'm going to count them.

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Speaker 1: Get it and please actually let us know so you'll

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01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 1: give it eight nipples the movie, you know what the

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01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 1: I like the diversity, which yeah we did. We didn't.

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Speaker 1: We ran out of time to talk about it. We'll

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Speaker 1: record a pickup or we will. Yeah. Yeah, it was

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01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 1: like this movie has been like lauded for its diversity,

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01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:48,040
Speaker 1: which is complicated, but it truly like a very true thing. Yeah, yeah,

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01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 1: we should we give our nipple skills or do we? Right?

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01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:55,400
Speaker 1: You gotta go all right to the show. So okay,

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01:14:55,640 --> 01:14:57,680
Speaker 1: thank you for having me. Yeah, give it up for

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01:14:57,720 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 1: our She's amazing. Okay, So that's where we are going

1074
01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 1: to transition out of the live show because so after

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01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 1: this we pretended that Danny had to leave for another show,

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01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 1: but then she came back out and we all did karaoke.

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01:15:19,720 --> 01:15:25,040
Speaker 1: We sang stand out. Danny really like pulled some moves out.

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01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 1: We have we'll close pictures of it. While we released

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01:15:27,280 --> 01:15:30,600
Speaker 1: the episode, Yeah had, but but it doesn't really unfortunately,

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01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:33,479
Speaker 1: translate to the audio medium. It would just be us

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01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 1: using audio that's illegal to use the show. But shouts

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01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:42,000
Speaker 1: out to Juliet and Gianna who came on stage with

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01:15:42,120 --> 01:15:45,920
Speaker 1: us and saying champion. I believe it was them who

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01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 1: won Danny's prize when she did a trivia question also

1085
01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:54,160
Speaker 1: something that didn't translate well to the audio medium, so

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01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 1: you won't hear that in the show. But but we

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01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean it was It's I love when

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01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:04,760
Speaker 1: audience members come in to dage. It's so excited. But

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01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 1: because it's a live show and it's a limited amount

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01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 1: of time and kind of a looser atmosphere, we didn't

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01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:12,400
Speaker 1: have time to touch on everything that we wanted to,

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01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 1: and so that is where this next segment comes in.

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Speaker 1: That's right, and so we want to introduce he is

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Speaker 1: the creator and host of the YouTube channel rid Us

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Speaker 1: one oh one. It's Lauren rid Us. Thank you so

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01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 1: much for joining us. Thank you so much for having me.

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01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,759
Speaker 1: Oh it's our pleasure. We're soaked to have you. We're

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01:16:33,960 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 1: a huge fans of your work, and specifically your work

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01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:42,679
Speaker 1: on this exact subject. It was truly fortuitous. Oh man,

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Speaker 1: I really you think that be doing this for so

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01:16:45,920 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 1: long that I'd get used to people saying that I'm

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01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 1: a big fan of your work. I'm never used to

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01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:56,760
Speaker 1: hearing that it's simply the truth. Yeah, and we I

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01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:00,519
Speaker 1: mean like in particular for this episode, we're huge fans

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01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,880
Speaker 1: of your It's from last year, I believe right your

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01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:08,639
Speaker 1: video essay about how a Goofy movie connected with Black

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01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 1: millennials specifically. Yes, yes, I released the February of last year,

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01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,960
Speaker 1: specifically for a Black History Month. The video was I

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01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:20,679
Speaker 1: was planning on releasing it like years ago and started

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01:17:20,720 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 1: working on it, work on it years ago, but I

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01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:30,160
Speaker 1: never mental things in my own head. But then last

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01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:32,320
Speaker 1: year I was like, you know what, I'm releasing this video.

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01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 1: The time has come. The people needed pretty much, we

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Speaker 1: specifically needed. You explained this beautifully in the video as well,

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Speaker 1: But for our listeners, could you give us a little

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01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 1: insight into your connection to a Goofy movie? When did

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01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,120
Speaker 1: you foresee it and how did your connection to it

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01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:51,639
Speaker 1: kind of change over the years. Oh? Sure, I saw

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01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:57,040
Speaker 1: a Goofy movie years ago during during my childhood early

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Speaker 1: elementary school. I think Leaving Fifth great because, as everybody else,

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01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:07,040
Speaker 1: I assume, even though I didn't necessarily have the Disney channel,

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01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 1: I was aware of goof Troop and I knew I

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01:18:11,000 --> 01:18:15,719
Speaker 1: knew the correlation between a Goofy movie and Troop because

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01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:17,839
Speaker 1: Max was in it and it was a bit older,

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01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,800
Speaker 1: he had a deeper voice, so I immediately was able

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01:18:21,240 --> 01:18:23,559
Speaker 1: to tell that, oh, this takes place in the future,

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01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 1: so I wonder if Pete and PJ are in it.

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Speaker 1: Things like that and watched in theaters when I was young.

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Speaker 1: Of course, it wasn't necessarily one of the biggest things

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Speaker 1: that Disney promoted. I can't remember what other the animated

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01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,719
Speaker 1: feature came out around that time, but it was definitely

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01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 1: a Pocahonnas versus Lion King type thing that came to

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01:18:47,240 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 1: a Goofy movie. It was like, yes, it was. It

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Speaker 1: was one of the Disney films that was released this year,

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01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 1: but they were probably busy promoting something else because it

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01:18:55,720 --> 01:18:57,639
Speaker 1: was like, we put all our money in this one,

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01:18:57,680 --> 01:19:01,000
Speaker 1: and it was just like you released that, but yeah,

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01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 1: but it clearly it became a classic among not just

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01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 1: not just like black millennials, but just like millennials in

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01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 1: general from different walks of life. Like once I released

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01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 1: a video, of course, I received multitudes of individuals who

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01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:21,599
Speaker 1: had the same background as I did comment and let

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01:19:21,640 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 1: me and let me know that they also felt the

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01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 1: same way. But also like white millennials, Hispanic Latino millennials

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01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:31,800
Speaker 1: from the backgrounds and everything like that, just letting me

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01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,519
Speaker 1: know that a lot of the things that I related

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01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:38,679
Speaker 1: to it as I got older, so did they nice.

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Speaker 1: So I want to go through the reasons that And

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01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 1: I watched a few video essays on this exact topic,

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01:19:47,600 --> 01:19:52,360
Speaker 1: and a number of people cited certain specific reasons why

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01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:56,320
Speaker 1: it why this movie resonated with them in particular as

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01:19:56,320 --> 01:20:00,680
Speaker 1: far as like how this movie connected with their experience,

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01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:05,320
Speaker 1: the reasons that you cite in your video essay, perhaps

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01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:10,040
Speaker 1: the most obvious and superficial reason being that powerline who

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01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 1: is a dark skinned goof character being inspired by real

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01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: life black pop stars, namely Prince, Michael Jackson, and Bobby Brown. Yes,

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01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 1: but then there's also a number of other kind of

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01:20:20,800 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 1: like socioeconomic cultural reasons, such as the way that Max

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01:20:27,439 --> 01:20:30,680
Speaker 1: tries to impress Roxanne at the beginning, that being kind

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01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 1: of like a power fantasy for a lot of black

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01:20:34,040 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 1: kids attending underfunded schools because of redlining, and you know,

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01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 1: those kids not having access to the elaborate way that

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01:20:41,600 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 1: Max puts on this big show to impress Roxanne. It

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01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:48,960
Speaker 1: becomes this like escapist fantasy exactly. I didn't know schools

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01:20:48,960 --> 01:20:53,960
Speaker 1: in general had AV clubs until oh god, damn. I

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01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:58,000
Speaker 1: think I only learned that a V clubs existed when

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01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 1: I got older and watch stranger things for the first time.

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01:21:01,560 --> 01:21:04,720
Speaker 1: I had a similar I thought that AV clubs only

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01:21:04,760 --> 01:21:08,200
Speaker 1: existed on TV and yeah, which sucks because I was like,

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Speaker 1: I think I would get along with these these kids,

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01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,479
Speaker 1: oh yeah, oh yeah, which was because we definitely I

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01:21:13,520 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 1: definitely had like clubs in like high school and college.

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Speaker 1: A lot of my very good friends I met my

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01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 1: freshman year of high school and my anime club. Um,

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01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 1: but every experience an AV club or the closest thing

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01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:31,320
Speaker 1: we got to was like qualifying to like, say the

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Speaker 1: morning announcements if that was a if, if if they

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01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 1: didn't like have somebody already doing that, but uh, and

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01:21:38,200 --> 01:21:42,800
Speaker 1: then whatever performing arts we would have to either audition

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01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:46,880
Speaker 1: within or go elsewhere. If there wasn't any in the

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01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:49,640
Speaker 1: school or the school wasn't providing enough, I would have

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01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 1: to seek it out. Like there were a lot of

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01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:55,160
Speaker 1: other extra activities I would have to define that have

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01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 1: been funded outside of like this public school system and

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01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:02,360
Speaker 1: everything like that. So it's just like seeing how easily

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01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:08,559
Speaker 1: accessible Max PJ. And I can never remember his name.

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01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 1: Cheez whiz Kid. Yeah, yeah, it's the character's name. Yeah.

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01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 1: It was like, well he was only introduced in the movie.

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01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 1: It's like I don't know him from truth. It was

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01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,880
Speaker 1: like I kind of have more familiarity with the once

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01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:25,360
Speaker 1: an extremely cool movie came out, but that's about it.

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01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 1: They did. They did plunge the depths of the poly

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01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 1: Shore character for something. But yeah, it was just like

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01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:37,519
Speaker 1: it's like you only ever saw like seeing that having

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01:22:37,560 --> 01:22:42,200
Speaker 1: an access and how they planned everything. The only piece

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01:22:42,200 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 1: of equipment I was able to relate to was the

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01:22:45,560 --> 01:22:48,759
Speaker 1: television on the cart because that was how you knew

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01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 1: that we weren't doing anything but watching a movie in

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Speaker 1: school in class that day. And I was like, and

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Speaker 1: the way they elaborately set up the situation at the

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01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 1: at the PA meeting, it was just like, man, you

1202
01:23:03,080 --> 01:23:07,000
Speaker 1: can do this. And then as I as just like

1203
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 1: doing research and everything, And what really started me down

1204
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 1: that road was being introduced to how redlining was handlishly.

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01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 1: And I was initially introduced when I first watched the

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01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 1: original Candyman movie because they explained the Cabrini Green situation

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01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:29,200
Speaker 1: between Helen Lyles condos versus the Cabrini Green apartment and

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01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 1: how they were both created and they were able to

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01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 1: pass her building office condos because it was on the

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01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,160
Speaker 1: other side of the bridge. And that's how I learned

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Speaker 1: about redlining and researching that then also seeing how it

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01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 1: affected the public school system, especially here in Detroit. One

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Speaker 1: of the examples that I made, it's like and depending

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01:23:46,479 --> 01:23:51,000
Speaker 1: on some suburban schools, they don't necessarily have to raise

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01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 1: funds in order to have their scholastic book fair, but

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01:23:54,640 --> 01:23:57,640
Speaker 1: we had to sell a little Caesar's cookie dough in

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01:23:57,720 --> 01:24:00,639
Speaker 1: order to do that, and it was like definitely meant

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01:24:00,640 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 1: to the majority of my elementary schools were pretty much

1219
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:07,480
Speaker 1: down the street and around the corner. The prestigious schools

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01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:10,599
Speaker 1: in the Detroit which are cast Technical High School where

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01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:13,600
Speaker 1: I graduated from, Martin Luther King Junior High School, and

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01:24:13,640 --> 01:24:16,960
Speaker 1: Renaissance High School, the big three you had to test

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01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,880
Speaker 1: in or audition in. Through the arts, and of course

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01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:22,680
Speaker 1: there is Detroit School of Final Performing Arts, which is

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01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 1: when in midtown, where you also clearly had to audition

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01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 1: there because it's a performing school. Everything else was like

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01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 1: you would have to be considered, you know, not as

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01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say they weren't also like pretty

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01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:39,639
Speaker 1: pretty much in the same boat despite despite me looking

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01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 1: out and being in one of the Big three, um

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01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,920
Speaker 1: and just just experiencing that. So I know, I know

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Speaker 1: individuals who didn't go to those high schools and went

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Speaker 1: to other ones around like I think Coolly. I think

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01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 1: we had our we have our own, had our own

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01:24:56,280 --> 01:25:00,400
Speaker 1: Cooley High as well. Experiencing that and then and seeing

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Speaker 1: how it related to a Goofy movie and seeing how

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01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:10,080
Speaker 1: people saw what Max was willing to do and everything

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01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:13,720
Speaker 1: like that. To mention the fact that it's one of

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01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:15,719
Speaker 1: the only pieces of media, which is something I also

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01:25:15,760 --> 01:25:19,920
Speaker 1: say in my video say that has been successfully written

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01:25:20,600 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 1: by a gen xer that has allowed millennials to relate

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01:25:24,400 --> 01:25:27,240
Speaker 1: to it. One of the writers for Bill, the Bill

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01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:30,360
Speaker 1: and te Trilogy helped write a Goofy movie, and I

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01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:33,800
Speaker 1: thought it was very well done. I thought, I thought

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Speaker 1: he really did his homework as far as like taking

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01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 1: what he experienced as a gen xer, seeing how it

1247
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:46,360
Speaker 1: applies to millennials and making it more and making it

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01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:50,160
Speaker 1: relatable to that target demographic as opposed to just recycling

1249
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:54,920
Speaker 1: his own experiences and hoping that there's something to latch onto. Yeah,

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01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:58,160
Speaker 1: of the many great segments, that was one that honestly,

1251
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:01,080
Speaker 1: I had not really considered because I knew his history,

1252
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 1: but I wasn't super familiar with Bill and Ted or.

1253
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 1: I just think it's fascinating when and like encouraging when

1254
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 1: a writer is willing to grow, because most don't seem

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01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:18,800
Speaker 1: interested and like that is why euphori. Yeah, Yeah, that's exactly. Yeah.

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01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: And I think one of the ways that this is

1257
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 1: most obvious as far as the writer being willing to

1258
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:32,519
Speaker 1: understand the millennial experience is in another observation you made

1259
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:36,479
Speaker 1: about a Goofy movie, which is the differences in the

1260
01:26:36,520 --> 01:26:42,280
Speaker 1: way that Pete raises PJ versus how Goofy raises Max,

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01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:45,200
Speaker 1: and how the kind of like quote unquote under the

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01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:49,200
Speaker 1: thumb approach to parenting that Pete takes feels very familiar

1263
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:53,000
Speaker 1: to many black millennial kids whose parents learned this kind

1264
01:26:53,000 --> 01:27:01,479
Speaker 1: of parenting style from a religious Christian context. Plus generational trauma. Yeah,

1265
01:27:01,520 --> 01:27:07,400
Speaker 1: it's very much a passing down of let's just be honest,

1266
01:27:07,479 --> 01:27:10,799
Speaker 1: everything resorts back to white supremacy in one way or another.

1267
01:27:11,240 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 1: It's generational trauma that started with the slave trade. And

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01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:20,719
Speaker 1: depending on how one has interpreted religion since then, has

1269
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:25,400
Speaker 1: allowed it to take heed of how they identify to

1270
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:30,000
Speaker 1: raise their children. And that's partially the reason why there's

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01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:35,760
Speaker 1: kind of like a disconnect between how some black individuals

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01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:40,920
Speaker 1: view white individuals raising their children and how the difference

1273
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 1: is between as of course, we've all heard that. We've

1274
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:47,759
Speaker 1: all heard the jokes about how, like, you know, black

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01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 1: family will watch a white family and a target let

1276
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:56,480
Speaker 1: their kid run rampant and not do any disciplinary things

1277
01:27:56,600 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 1: and be like, that wouldn't be my child. We've all

1278
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:04,160
Speaker 1: heard those jokes and sometimes and of course we've all

1279
01:28:04,200 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 1: have we've all experienced their very white privileged kid being

1280
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 1: able to like freely curse of their parents call them

1281
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 1: by their first names, and have black individuals and individuals

1282
01:28:18,320 --> 01:28:21,559
Speaker 1: of color look at that situation and see the blatant

1283
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:25,320
Speaker 1: disrespect and be like that ship wouldn't happen to me, though,

1284
01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 1: it's just like at the same time, we also tend

1285
01:28:29,920 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 1: to look at individuals in slightly healthier relationships with their

1286
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:40,640
Speaker 1: parents and their child had that type of like respect

1287
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 1: that also promotes like mutual friendship with between the parents

1288
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 1: and the child, and also see that as just as foreign.

1289
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 1: And it's mostly because we've never experienced that, and because

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01:28:55,560 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 1: we've seen how they are willing, like because of how

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01:29:02,200 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 1: they were raised, they aren't willing to give that same

1292
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:08,880
Speaker 1: amount of respect because they don't they've never known how

1293
01:29:08,920 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 1: to do that. Like one of the biggest, one of

1294
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 1: the biggest jokes within black community, within Black starting Black

1295
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:19,760
Speaker 1: millennials and you know gen Z and everything and everyone

1296
01:29:19,840 --> 01:29:24,800
Speaker 1: else younger than boomers lately have then the main way

1297
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 1: a black parent apologizes to their black child is to

1298
01:29:28,920 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 1: ask them what they want to eat. It's never the

1299
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:36,040
Speaker 1: best way a Black pararenologizes to their black child is

1300
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:40,719
Speaker 1: to say I'm sorry. It's doing everything else. The fact

1301
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:46,599
Speaker 1: that we have at least two to three generations of

1302
01:29:46,800 --> 01:29:51,880
Speaker 1: parents never acknowledging that they were wrong about something, or

1303
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:54,679
Speaker 1: that they were sorry about something, or that they should

1304
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:58,320
Speaker 1: have done things better, and that us now that we

1305
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:01,760
Speaker 1: are at the being parents are just now making the

1306
01:30:01,800 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 1: active decision to actually like break that like line of

1307
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 1: generational trauma. And I mean gen xers have done it before. Also,

1308
01:30:11,640 --> 01:30:14,960
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know my parents. My parents are boomers, So

1309
01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:17,840
Speaker 1: I have to look at my sisters and see and

1310
01:30:17,960 --> 01:30:21,000
Speaker 1: see how they have decided, and even they mess up

1311
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:24,040
Speaker 1: as well, and they take things out of situation because

1312
01:30:24,200 --> 01:30:26,719
Speaker 1: you have some of those gen xers that they understand

1313
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:30,200
Speaker 1: the rebellion of dealing with their boomer parents. They still

1314
01:30:30,280 --> 01:30:33,840
Speaker 1: have some aspects about their parents that you know, they

1315
01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:37,040
Speaker 1: still hold on to because there's most beaus of the

1316
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:40,280
Speaker 1: set in their ways. So it's just like exploring aspect

1317
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 1: and seeing how that projected with Pete and PJ and

1318
01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:49,640
Speaker 1: Goofy and Max, and just seeing how weird it was

1319
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:53,639
Speaker 1: to see that relationship play out with Goofy and Max.

1320
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:56,320
Speaker 1: It reminded me of a lot of the FOREI reality

1321
01:30:56,840 --> 01:31:00,120
Speaker 1: of how some black parents look at not just not

1322
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:03,360
Speaker 1: just white parents, but just parents that have a mutual

1323
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:06,240
Speaker 1: respect with their children to the point where it's just

1324
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 1: like they were able to have this relationship. And of

1325
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:13,120
Speaker 1: course it doesn't really help that you have like the

1326
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:17,680
Speaker 1: party moms like Amy Poehler and fucking mean girls to

1327
01:31:17,800 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 1: have that type of physical representation depending on what you're watching,

1328
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:25,080
Speaker 1: but at the same time, it does exist, and it

1329
01:31:25,520 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 1: all goes back to the intersectionality aspect that I explained

1330
01:31:28,320 --> 01:31:30,320
Speaker 1: to the video. I think that was one of the

1331
01:31:30,360 --> 01:31:34,479
Speaker 1: reasons why black millennials seeing the world trip that Goofy

1332
01:31:34,479 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 1: and Max went on was so inspirational because it allowed

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01:31:38,439 --> 01:31:43,120
Speaker 1: them to see that it was possible for both parents

1334
01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:46,240
Speaker 1: and children to trust each other and see us in

1335
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 1: the road. That would happen because of how things have

1336
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:53,280
Speaker 1: played out between the two, because of because just like

1337
01:31:53,320 --> 01:31:55,240
Speaker 1: I said in the video, none of this would have

1338
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 1: happened if Goofy just sat down with Max after school

1339
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:02,680
Speaker 1: asked what the fun happen? Just believing the principle and

1340
01:32:02,800 --> 01:32:05,280
Speaker 1: just thinking that he's as a fucking gangbanger. It's just

1341
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:10,799
Speaker 1: like the principal, Wallace Sean really fucked up their family

1342
01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:15,760
Speaker 1: like it was. It was bad. Yeah. And that's the

1343
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:20,120
Speaker 1: third main observation you make in your video essay is

1344
01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:24,280
Speaker 1: the lack of communication between Max and Goofy feeling very

1345
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:28,120
Speaker 1: close to home for many black nineties kids because of

1346
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:32,639
Speaker 1: this generational gap between kids and their parents. And as

1347
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:36,200
Speaker 1: you point out in your essay, and not to quote

1348
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:38,720
Speaker 1: your own words back at you, but I loved the

1349
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:43,439
Speaker 1: way you put this, so I'm gonna quote you. You say,

1350
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:47,680
Speaker 1: despite multiple people being able to relate to this experience,

1351
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:50,760
Speaker 1: this is something that can be one hundred percent understood

1352
01:32:50,800 --> 01:32:54,160
Speaker 1: and relatable to black millennials who felt the pressure of

1353
01:32:54,200 --> 01:32:59,240
Speaker 1: growing up being pleasant, hardworking, and unthreatening in order to

1354
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 1: thrive in a world that, while still mirrors the one

1355
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:06,559
Speaker 1: your parents did grow up in, is making strides and

1356
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:09,680
Speaker 1: getting better in ways to allow yourself your freedom of

1357
01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 1: expression as much as it allows your white counterparts. So

1358
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:23,120
Speaker 1: sound familiar. Yeah, did you say that already? Yeah, yeah,

1359
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 1: it's It's definitely along the lines of the code, the

1360
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:32,719
Speaker 1: code for that as far as the black lexicon is. Hey,

1361
01:33:33,160 --> 01:33:35,679
Speaker 1: sometimes black kids want to do white people should too,

1362
01:33:36,640 --> 01:33:39,960
Speaker 1: and sometimes and I've seen this, I've seen this play out.

1363
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:45,080
Speaker 1: A proper example was being raised to believe that not

1364
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:47,920
Speaker 1: necessarily believe, but race is see because of who your

1365
01:33:47,920 --> 01:33:52,360
Speaker 1: parents are, that there are just some things that we

1366
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:57,719
Speaker 1: as African Americans shouldn't really do because of the fact

1367
01:33:58,000 --> 01:34:01,000
Speaker 1: of we see everything going on in the world. We

1368
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:03,640
Speaker 1: see what our parents dealt with, and we see what

1369
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:07,160
Speaker 1: we have to deal with now. But at the same time,

1370
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:10,519
Speaker 1: we also grew up with Power Rangers, and we saw

1371
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:13,439
Speaker 1: the Power Rangers movie, and some of us want to

1372
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 1: fucking skydive, and and some of our black parents it's like,

1373
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:19,920
Speaker 1: why the fuck would you want to skydive, that's some

1374
01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:22,960
Speaker 1: white people's shit, and it's just like, but they made

1375
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:25,720
Speaker 1: it look so cool and I hate was doing it.

1376
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:29,040
Speaker 1: So there are black people's skydiving and it's just like

1377
01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 1: And it's very much along the lines of like. The

1378
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:37,960
Speaker 1: lack of communication definitely drolls back with like black parenthood

1379
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:42,800
Speaker 1: and black children, with the children feeling like because the

1380
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:46,360
Speaker 1: parents are so set in their ways, they can't rely

1381
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:49,760
Speaker 1: on them to talk about anything. The closest thing I

1382
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:53,799
Speaker 1: can come to compare it with is like a queer

1383
01:34:53,920 --> 01:34:57,599
Speaker 1: child who wants to let their parents know that they

1384
01:34:57,640 --> 01:35:01,640
Speaker 1: are queer, but doesn't know how they would react if

1385
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:05,840
Speaker 1: they tell them. And I definitely experienced that. I didn't

1386
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:09,160
Speaker 1: come out to my mom until I was like like

1387
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:13,560
Speaker 1: thirty one. But the lack of not necessarily communication, the

1388
01:35:13,640 --> 01:35:16,719
Speaker 1: lass of trust, and that lack of trust is present

1389
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 1: because the children have seen how the parents react to

1390
01:35:21,439 --> 01:35:25,160
Speaker 1: everything else in the world. See how they react to

1391
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:28,800
Speaker 1: something that they have done when they were younger, See

1392
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:33,360
Speaker 1: how they react to their older or younger siblings, See

1393
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 1: how they react to news outlets like one of the

1394
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:39,599
Speaker 1: reasons why it took me so long to come out

1395
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:43,080
Speaker 1: to my mom was because the year that I planned

1396
01:35:43,080 --> 01:35:46,120
Speaker 1: to come out to my mom, my sister came out

1397
01:35:46,160 --> 01:35:49,360
Speaker 1: to my mom as bi curious not to say that

1398
01:35:49,400 --> 01:35:53,600
Speaker 1: Will and Grace is right about certain stereotypes, but ohn Christmas,

1399
01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:59,680
Speaker 1: and it was just like, oh, if she's doing that,

1400
01:35:59,720 --> 01:36:01,800
Speaker 1: then I'm just going to I'm just going to back

1401
01:36:01,880 --> 01:36:04,800
Speaker 1: up here and wait until that colds down, and um

1402
01:36:05,120 --> 01:36:09,280
Speaker 1: maybe and maybe maybe just wait a bit. But yeah.

1403
01:36:09,320 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 1: So it's like that that lack of trust and while

1404
01:36:12,479 --> 01:36:16,680
Speaker 1: it's definitely relatable regardless of your ethnicity, um, it's me

1405
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:20,280
Speaker 1: as black individual and seeing other black individuals experience that

1406
01:36:20,439 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 1: same aspect and then seeing it play out. That lack

1407
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:27,719
Speaker 1: of communication and that wants to tell your parents about

1408
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 1: something but not being able to because you know, I

1409
01:36:30,600 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 1: don't know how they're going to react was definitely relatable

1410
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:38,639
Speaker 1: and I love that. Like in this movie specifically, it's

1411
01:36:38,920 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, like hopefully parents can get a lot

1412
01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:44,440
Speaker 1: out of it too, of just like watching a communication

1413
01:36:44,479 --> 01:36:47,040
Speaker 1: issue be resolved in like a kind of messy but

1414
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:50,599
Speaker 1: kind of loving way. Yeah yeah, and hopefully not having

1415
01:36:50,680 --> 01:36:53,400
Speaker 1: to ruin the auto insurance of your car by having

1416
01:36:53,439 --> 01:36:58,759
Speaker 1: it go down a fucking waterfall were we were talking.

1417
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:01,680
Speaker 1: We didn't mention that live show, but like, yeah, the

1418
01:37:01,720 --> 01:37:04,760
Speaker 1: car falls down a waterfall, and then Goofy's like, well,

1419
01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:06,519
Speaker 1: we got to get to this damn concert, and then

1420
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:09,440
Speaker 1: cut to the car is pulling up to the concert.

1421
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:13,720
Speaker 1: I'm Michael. I guess they figured it out and then

1422
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 1: drove all the way back across the country to exactly

1423
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:20,920
Speaker 1: the east coast somewhere is and then explode. Yeah. I

1424
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:24,520
Speaker 1: think Ohio, the map said they started off. Oh okay,

1425
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:31,720
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell. Something so fascinating about movies and just

1426
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:37,479
Speaker 1: storytelling in general is how, based on an individual viewers

1427
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:44,720
Speaker 1: experience and circumstances that they can watch something and observe

1428
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:49,680
Speaker 1: and interpret things very differently from how someone else of

1429
01:37:49,680 --> 01:37:54,120
Speaker 1: a different background would experience and interpret the events of

1430
01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:57,840
Speaker 1: the story or just the relationship dynamics of the story,

1431
01:37:57,960 --> 01:38:02,000
Speaker 1: which speaks to a bigger problem in media, which is

1432
01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 1: just the lack of representation of visibly seeing black people

1433
01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:11,799
Speaker 1: on screen, or visibly seeing any marginalized group on screen,

1434
01:38:12,200 --> 01:38:17,160
Speaker 1: because so often marginalized people have to take media that

1435
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:20,880
Speaker 1: is sort of just like by default or assumed like

1436
01:38:20,920 --> 01:38:24,519
Speaker 1: the assumed default situation for the characters is that they

1437
01:38:24,560 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 1: are cis head, white, probably middle class, able bodied, neurotypical.

1438
01:38:30,920 --> 01:38:34,479
Speaker 1: The list goes on and assuming that oh yeah, most

1439
01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:36,680
Speaker 1: audiences will be able to relate to that, and it

1440
01:38:36,760 --> 01:38:41,439
Speaker 1: leaves marginalized viewers having to follow the crumbs and be like, Okay,

1441
01:38:41,479 --> 01:38:45,200
Speaker 1: here are the ways that I can see myself represented

1442
01:38:45,560 --> 01:38:49,040
Speaker 1: in this media that is clearly not written with them

1443
01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:54,200
Speaker 1: in mind right, And I feel that with a Goofy

1444
01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:59,120
Speaker 1: movie they were able to successfully they and by they

1445
01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:03,320
Speaker 1: I mean African America, We're able to ide ideally identify

1446
01:39:03,360 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 1: successfully with it all of these aspects about it because

1447
01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 1: well subconsciously of course, and then of course there's visually

1448
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:16,000
Speaker 1: a power line. But one thing I failed to mention

1449
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:19,120
Speaker 1: in my video say that my friend and fellow YouTuber

1450
01:39:19,240 --> 01:39:24,680
Speaker 1: Ed Bowley aka Eddic also noted in his video about

1451
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:28,360
Speaker 1: exploring what is a goof is that in a way,

1452
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:33,360
Speaker 1: Goofy and the goof species is pretty much a reclamation,

1453
01:39:34,439 --> 01:39:38,080
Speaker 1: as an African American reclamation of like a very like

1454
01:39:39,000 --> 01:39:42,840
Speaker 1: slur of a race, because there was a period where

1455
01:39:43,080 --> 01:39:48,479
Speaker 1: individuals looked at goof as like the stereotypical, like post

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01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:53,000
Speaker 1: slavery depiction of a of a free African American, and

1457
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:57,240
Speaker 1: I feel it was a subconscious reclamation, just like we

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01:39:57,600 --> 01:40:01,600
Speaker 1: reclaimed the N word. So that's why you have individuals

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01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:05,120
Speaker 1: who are all like, you know, every goof pretty much

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01:40:05,120 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 1: every goof is black. And at the same time, once

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01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:14,800
Speaker 1: you see that reclamation and then once you apply it

1462
01:40:15,640 --> 01:40:20,599
Speaker 1: to how we as African Americans see ourselves, it's pretty

1463
01:40:20,680 --> 01:40:24,600
Speaker 1: much the snow brainer. And this aspect was also explored,

1464
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:30,639
Speaker 1: surprisingly enough in the Atlanta episode. Yes that that did

1465
01:40:30,680 --> 01:40:35,240
Speaker 1: the mockumentary of the quote unquote first black Ceosney that

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01:40:35,479 --> 01:40:40,439
Speaker 1: made the Goofy movie, and and that everybody immediately just

1467
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:43,840
Speaker 1: saw my video about it and be like, yo, did

1468
01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:46,479
Speaker 1: Donald Glover watch this video? But while he was writing

1469
01:40:46,479 --> 01:40:50,160
Speaker 1: this script, I went back and watched that because I

1470
01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:52,439
Speaker 1: went back and watched that section of the episode to

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01:40:52,479 --> 01:40:55,679
Speaker 1: be like, wow, this is it's it? Does I feel

1472
01:40:55,720 --> 01:41:06,960
Speaker 1: like someone watched it to miss quote Wallace Sean, it's conceivable. Yes, yes, um,

1473
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:10,800
Speaker 1: but yeah, they also they also touched on because that

1474
01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:15,040
Speaker 1: is actually one of the aspects about Goofy as a character,

1475
01:41:15,560 --> 01:41:19,599
Speaker 1: and then that has translated onto the the goof race

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01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:23,280
Speaker 1: in the Disney verse or whatever. As far as the

1477
01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:29,719
Speaker 1: reclamation we've I've whereas I've seen us reclaim the N word,

1478
01:41:29,960 --> 01:41:35,840
Speaker 1: like consciously. It really does feel like claiming Max and

1479
01:41:35,960 --> 01:41:39,960
Speaker 1: the entire world of goof Troop as ours feels like

1480
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:43,800
Speaker 1: a subconscious reclamation of it considering what the original like

1481
01:41:43,920 --> 01:41:47,680
Speaker 1: translation of it was as far as like the menstruls,

1482
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:52,280
Speaker 1: like slacker or like the lazy good for nothing that's

1483
01:41:52,400 --> 01:41:55,880
Speaker 1: usually like picked it with black folk after slavery, and

1484
01:41:56,040 --> 01:42:00,679
Speaker 1: I so attracts it tracks, And I didn't realize until

1485
01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 1: after Ice. Until after both I saw ed Boli's video

1486
01:42:04,720 --> 01:42:08,320
Speaker 1: about exploring that and then seeing how that was used

1487
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:13,200
Speaker 1: to like quote unquote explain the piece of Goofy and

1488
01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:15,800
Speaker 1: a Goofy movie in the inlant episode. So it's just like,

1489
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:21,360
Speaker 1: you know, every everything tracks absolutely. I also saw from

1490
01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:25,960
Speaker 1: the YouTube channel Black Nerd Problems saying that this is

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01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:31,479
Speaker 1: the blackest Disney movie of all time, citing how Max

1492
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:34,520
Speaker 1: is a black nerd, how he was judged and misunderstood

1493
01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:38,080
Speaker 1: by the principle based on his baggy clothes. He cites

1494
01:42:38,160 --> 01:42:41,680
Speaker 1: the casting of Kevin Campbell's powerline and the performance at

1495
01:42:41,720 --> 01:42:45,439
Speaker 1: the end of the movie. Writer Austin Williams, who wrote

1496
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 1: a piece in Vice called the enduring legacy of Disney's

1497
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:53,839
Speaker 1: black Millennial classic, A Goofy movie brings up similar points,

1498
01:42:54,160 --> 01:42:57,000
Speaker 1: such front up the fact that there that Bobby Brown

1499
01:42:57,120 --> 01:42:59,599
Speaker 1: did record music for this and then they just made

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01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:02,240
Speaker 1: it be sides on his next album, And so there

1501
01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:07,800
Speaker 1: is like proof that Tevin Campbell was the correct choice

1502
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:10,439
Speaker 1: because you can hear what Bobby Brown recorded and it

1503
01:43:10,520 --> 01:43:14,599
Speaker 1: just doesn't compare, doesn't quite hit the same way. But yeah,

1504
01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:19,000
Speaker 1: Austin Williams cited the white boy Bobby that's the poly

1505
01:43:19,160 --> 01:43:24,559
Speaker 1: shore cheeways kid getting in just as much trouble as Max,

1506
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 1: but somehow feeling way less worried about his parents finding

1507
01:43:27,320 --> 01:43:32,320
Speaker 1: out the part where the principal calls Goofy and says

1508
01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:36,040
Speaker 1: that you know this teenage boy sent his classmates into

1509
01:43:36,080 --> 01:43:40,360
Speaker 1: a quote riotous frenzy dressed as a gang member and

1510
01:43:40,680 --> 01:43:43,439
Speaker 1: advising Goofy to get a handle on the way he

1511
01:43:43,560 --> 01:43:47,679
Speaker 1: raises his son. And then Austin also says that anyone

1512
01:43:47,720 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 1: who claims Max goof wasn't an early depiction of hashtag

1513
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:56,000
Speaker 1: black boy joy is either a liar or a white person.

1514
01:43:56,400 --> 01:44:04,439
Speaker 1: I thought that was funny. Why not exactly, do you

1515
01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:09,440
Speaker 1: have anything else you would like to add to this discussion.

1516
01:44:09,720 --> 01:44:16,639
Speaker 1: Laurun Goofy movie is a classic, and it definitely holds

1517
01:44:16,720 --> 01:44:20,479
Speaker 1: up even now. It's still one of my favorite go tos.

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01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:24,040
Speaker 1: Whereas I'm happy that we received an extremely Goofy movie

1519
01:44:24,439 --> 01:44:27,200
Speaker 1: and we see a continuation, I'm not going to just

1520
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:31,880
Speaker 1: say that because it's focusing on completely different than it

1521
01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:34,600
Speaker 1: doesn't hit the same because it depends on your background

1522
01:44:34,600 --> 01:44:37,479
Speaker 1: and everything like that. Like, there was definitely an era

1523
01:44:37,720 --> 01:44:40,960
Speaker 1: of my life in which all that was on my

1524
01:44:41,080 --> 01:44:46,400
Speaker 1: television was like like MTVFS Network when I first left

1525
01:44:46,640 --> 01:44:49,439
Speaker 1: home for the first time, because I wanted to explore

1526
01:44:49,439 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 1: a lot of things that you know, I couldn't necessarily

1527
01:44:52,520 --> 01:44:55,439
Speaker 1: explore him under the roof of my parents. But at

1528
01:44:55,479 --> 01:44:57,760
Speaker 1: the same time, I always end up going back to

1529
01:44:57,760 --> 01:45:03,200
Speaker 1: the original movie and just being comforted by slight how

1530
01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:07,080
Speaker 1: many aspects about my life are properly displayed in the film,

1531
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:10,439
Speaker 1: and I know a lot of other people do as well. Amazing,

1532
01:45:10,600 --> 01:45:14,679
Speaker 1: and that's a beautiful thing. And now we all start

1533
01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 1: doing the dance. Yeah, pretty much. Also good on power

1534
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:23,080
Speaker 1: Line for allowing for allowing two random stranges on his

1535
01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:26,760
Speaker 1: stage and not having them having security merely tackle them,

1536
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:31,519
Speaker 1: really dealt with that so smoothly. He was like, all right,

1537
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:34,400
Speaker 1: let's let's see what they have to say. I was like, Wow,

1538
01:45:34,439 --> 01:45:39,680
Speaker 1: what a nice a nice guy truly so accommodating to

1539
01:45:40,800 --> 01:45:43,640
Speaker 1: Max and Goofy. Goofy did kill that mine though. We

1540
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:48,639
Speaker 1: can't forget that. You can get away with the Laddin

1541
01:45:48,640 --> 01:45:54,400
Speaker 1: New Orleans. It's fine, Lauren tell us. Where our listeners

1542
01:45:54,520 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 1: can check out your stuff, follow you online, anything along

1543
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:03,680
Speaker 1: those lines. Well, I mostly ammactive on YouTube. I have

1544
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:07,680
Speaker 1: my YouTube channel YouTube dot com h slash rid Us

1545
01:46:07,720 --> 01:46:10,439
Speaker 1: one on one that's r e A d Us the

1546
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:13,439
Speaker 1: number one, the number zero, the number one, where I

1547
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:19,360
Speaker 1: deal with a film and TV analysis surrounding queerness, blackness,

1548
01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 1: social justice. I also just launched a new YouTube channel

1549
01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:25,679
Speaker 1: called us two oh one where I talk about movie

1550
01:46:25,680 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 1: critiques and everything like that, where I talk about movie

1551
01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:34,080
Speaker 1: trilogy critique on full fledged reviews on movies and television

1552
01:46:34,080 --> 01:46:38,320
Speaker 1: shows and everything like that. I do written editorials through

1553
01:46:38,360 --> 01:46:41,400
Speaker 1: my sub stack, which you can find read one on

1554
01:46:41,479 --> 01:46:44,400
Speaker 1: one but everything pretty much you can find me on

1555
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:47,960
Speaker 1: Twitter mostly that's where all my links, tall everything is.

1556
01:46:48,240 --> 01:46:51,000
Speaker 1: And that's R E A d Us underscore at the

1557
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:53,280
Speaker 1: number one, of the number zero, the number one because

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01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:55,600
Speaker 1: somebody took rid us one on one straight up and

1559
01:46:55,720 --> 01:46:58,280
Speaker 1: hasn't done anything with it. And I've been trying to

1560
01:46:58,280 --> 01:47:02,640
Speaker 1: get that handle ever since. Oh my god, they're just

1561
01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:08,360
Speaker 1: like peccable. Yes, absolutely disgusting behavior. Ron, Thank you so

1562
01:47:08,520 --> 01:47:10,960
Speaker 1: much for joining us. We really appreciate it. Thanks so

1563
01:47:11,080 --> 01:47:17,439
Speaker 1: much for having me. This was really fun. Okay, and

1564
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:21,479
Speaker 1: that's uh, that's the episode. Although we have not yet

1565
01:47:22,280 --> 01:47:26,640
Speaker 1: given our Nipple ratings, you and me, we we just

1566
01:47:26,680 --> 01:47:32,040
Speaker 1: got so damn excited and um, Caitlin, now that we've

1567
01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:35,080
Speaker 1: we've had some time to really cook on this. Yeah,

1568
01:47:35,080 --> 01:47:36,559
Speaker 1: what are you? What are you? What are you? Given?

1569
01:47:36,720 --> 01:47:39,559
Speaker 1: A Goofy movie nineteen ninety five, I'm going to give

1570
01:47:39,600 --> 01:47:45,000
Speaker 1: it to Nipples because the movie, while it does have

1571
01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:51,920
Speaker 1: a more positive representation of father son relationships, which famously

1572
01:47:51,960 --> 01:47:56,280
Speaker 1: all movies are about. But this movie, as we've discussed,

1573
01:47:56,880 --> 01:48:00,880
Speaker 1: has I think a more nuanced and compelling version of

1574
01:48:00,920 --> 01:48:06,639
Speaker 1: this relationship dynamic, which I appreciate. It does really fail

1575
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:12,200
Speaker 1: to include women in any meaningful way except for a

1576
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:16,240
Speaker 1: love interest who is mostly off screen and who Max

1577
01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:22,520
Speaker 1: goof lies to the entire store. Okay, yeah for roxand

1578
01:48:22,720 --> 01:48:25,439
Speaker 1: justice for Roxanne. Oh maybe she's in the sequel. Oh

1579
01:48:25,479 --> 01:48:28,840
Speaker 1: wait she's Oh she's not. Oh wait, she's written out

1580
01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:33,160
Speaker 1: of history. But as we discussed with Laurn, this movie

1581
01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:38,760
Speaker 1: having such a huge legacy among black millennials, and like,

1582
01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 1: that's something that I also appreciate. So I don't know,

1583
01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:44,960
Speaker 1: maybe i'll bump it up to a two and a half.

1584
01:48:45,160 --> 01:48:47,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go two and a half. Okay, I'll do

1585
01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:51,240
Speaker 1: two and a half, and i'll give them too. I'll

1586
01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:56,360
Speaker 1: give one to Roxanne. Yeah, I will give one to

1587
01:48:57,760 --> 01:49:01,880
Speaker 1: the woman in the car who is like coded as

1588
01:49:01,960 --> 01:49:06,759
Speaker 1: crazy Cat lady Yes on the open Road montage. She's

1589
01:49:06,840 --> 01:49:10,559
Speaker 1: a legend, she is all she's It's like the Ariana

1590
01:49:10,640 --> 01:49:14,000
Speaker 1: Debaus lady in the car. You are all of us,

1591
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:18,280
Speaker 1: she is, Yes, So I'll give one nipple to her,

1592
01:49:18,800 --> 01:49:23,600
Speaker 1: and I'll give my half nipple to the nice relationship

1593
01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:28,639
Speaker 1: dynamic between Max and Goofy because yes, again it's it's

1594
01:49:28,680 --> 01:49:31,759
Speaker 1: a better version of that than we generally see. Yeah,

1595
01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:35,000
Speaker 1: so there that's who gets my nipples. I'm going two

1596
01:49:35,040 --> 01:49:37,360
Speaker 1: and a half as well. I think this movie, as

1597
01:49:37,360 --> 01:49:39,920
Speaker 1: we've discussed with both guests, have a has a really

1598
01:49:40,360 --> 01:49:44,360
Speaker 1: unique legacy, um and I don't want to you know,

1599
01:49:44,640 --> 01:49:47,240
Speaker 1: discount that or downplay that. And also I am glad

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01:49:47,320 --> 01:49:50,760
Speaker 1: that you know, over time there are now you know

1601
01:49:50,840 --> 01:49:56,000
Speaker 1: there there's uh more, there's just more in general, I

1602
01:49:56,000 --> 01:50:01,000
Speaker 1: think for nineteen five and better exactly, there's better movies

1603
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 1: than a goofy movie series. But yeah, I mean in

1604
01:50:04,040 --> 01:50:06,800
Speaker 1: terms of representation, I think it's like a really fascinating

1605
01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:09,479
Speaker 1: kind of flash point that so many black millennials saw

1606
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:13,880
Speaker 1: themselves in this movie. And I also am glad that,

1607
01:50:14,640 --> 01:50:17,920
Speaker 1: you know, like young black viewers now have a lot more.

1608
01:50:18,439 --> 01:50:21,280
Speaker 1: They they still should have more on top of more,

1609
01:50:21,400 --> 01:50:24,599
Speaker 1: but it's like more and more more. It's a yeah,

1610
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:28,160
Speaker 1: technical term called more and more in terms of we

1611
01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:33,360
Speaker 1: are in terms of how this you know, we've talked

1612
01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:36,720
Speaker 1: about it. There's Roxanne is a likable character, and I

1613
01:50:36,920 --> 01:50:39,800
Speaker 1: still really like that scene where she and Max are

1614
01:50:39,800 --> 01:50:41,880
Speaker 1: trying to flirt and they're just like awkward kids. But

1615
01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:43,439
Speaker 1: that's kind of the most you get out of her.

1616
01:50:43,560 --> 01:50:46,639
Speaker 1: You don't get anything outside of that, and then she's

1617
01:50:46,680 --> 01:50:51,439
Speaker 1: disappeared in future installments, which is a big old bummer. Yeah, Yeah,

1618
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:54,280
Speaker 1: I'm going to give it two and a half interesting legacy,

1619
01:50:54,720 --> 01:50:57,559
Speaker 1: a romp and a half. Sure this is actually a

1620
01:50:57,600 --> 01:50:59,720
Speaker 1: movie about fathers and sons that I'm like, you know what,

1621
01:51:00,600 --> 01:51:04,720
Speaker 1: we can keep fine, we can put it fine, fine, fine,

1622
01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:08,320
Speaker 1: And with that, I think that's our a goofy movie.

1623
01:51:08,320 --> 01:51:12,160
Speaker 1: Saga has this this episode we've been recording in segments

1624
01:51:12,160 --> 01:51:15,240
Speaker 1: over the course of over a month, now months, in

1625
01:51:15,439 --> 01:51:19,080
Speaker 1: multiple states. I think, so here it is a goofy movie.

1626
01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:21,519
Speaker 1: Saga has come to a close, and I feel good

1627
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:26,440
Speaker 1: about it until adel an extremely goofy movie. The episode.

1628
01:51:26,479 --> 01:51:28,800
Speaker 1: Oh my god, that that one is going to be

1629
01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:30,840
Speaker 1: so we should do that on the Matreon or something,

1630
01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:34,360
Speaker 1: because that whole movie is like a weirdly like long

1631
01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:37,120
Speaker 1: promotion for the fact that Disney at the time had

1632
01:51:37,160 --> 01:51:43,400
Speaker 1: just purchased ESPN, Like it's so weird. Anyways till then,

1633
01:51:44,439 --> 01:51:50,880
Speaker 1: uh yu yuck. Well, just once again, thank you to

1634
01:51:51,240 --> 01:51:56,320
Speaker 1: our guests Danny and Laurn. Yes, thank you to the

1635
01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:59,240
Speaker 1: folks who came out to the live show. So much

1636
01:51:59,240 --> 01:52:02,479
Speaker 1: fun And if you were like, wait a minute, you

1637
01:52:02,640 --> 01:52:05,599
Speaker 1: saying karaoke on stage, Wait a minute, you did all

1638
01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:08,240
Speaker 1: this like fun trivia games and stuff. Yeah, that's the

1639
01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:10,320
Speaker 1: kind of stuff you'll see it a live show. So

1640
01:52:10,360 --> 01:52:13,040
Speaker 1: if you're ever thinking, should I go to a beactelcast

1641
01:52:13,120 --> 01:52:16,599
Speaker 1: live show they're coming to my city, the answer is yes,

1642
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:20,439
Speaker 1: because even though you'll hear the episode later, the energy,

1643
01:52:20,720 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 1: the activities, everything that happens on stage, you just for

1644
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:30,400
Speaker 1: God to march. There's what isn't there. This show has everything, truly,

1645
01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:33,559
Speaker 1: I mean like every time. I mean, we love doing

1646
01:52:33,560 --> 01:52:36,840
Speaker 1: this show, and I think especially when we get to

1647
01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:39,240
Speaker 1: go on the road and actually meet people who listen

1648
01:52:39,240 --> 01:52:41,080
Speaker 1: to the show, it's like the best experience in the

1649
01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:43,920
Speaker 1: entire world, so wonderful. We hope that if you've come,

1650
01:52:44,120 --> 01:52:48,080
Speaker 1: you've enjoyed as well, and we hear you that we

1651
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:51,439
Speaker 1: never come to the middle of the country. We are

1652
01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:54,880
Speaker 1: going to. We have plans to just please bear with us.

1653
01:52:54,960 --> 01:52:59,479
Speaker 1: We just get so tired and we'll be there. We'll

1654
01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:02,639
Speaker 1: be there soon. We'll be there when yeah, when we

1655
01:53:03,200 --> 01:53:06,360
Speaker 1: get off our fainting couch or whatever it is we're doing. Um,

1656
01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:11,320
Speaker 1: we love you so much and have a good night

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01:53:11,520 --> 01:53:16,400
Speaker 1: save morning. I don't know why