1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from coast to coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: Richard, you were getting into why Viper was canceled, and 3 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 2: there's some big reasons. Why aren't there. 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 3: There's no Artemis without Artemis, there's no moon base without 5 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 3: no moon base, there's no lunar space based economy, and 6 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 3: the radical uplift of the wealth of everybody on planet Earth, 7 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 3: I mean everybody. The future is so astonishing if we 8 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 3: can get these sensors out of the way, so we 9 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 3: find out what we've got to deal with. And the 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 3: problem is that beginning in January of this year, the 11 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 3: ninth of January, not only did NASA delay the Artemis 12 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 3: program to land remember the first new four human beings Americans, 13 00:00:52,520 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 3: including a woman on the Moon, they delayed two years. Now, 14 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 3: you know the old cliche in politics for the week 15 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 3: is a lifetime. What's going to happen in two years? 16 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: We'll get beaten, that's for sure. 17 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 3: By the Chinese. How do we know? We don't have 18 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 3: to speculate. We know I prepare a little timeline here. 19 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 3: NASA delayed Artemis, remember Viper is critical for Artemis, by 20 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 3: two years in January of this year, and then on 21 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 3: the nineteenth, the Japanese landed their spacecraft at the south 22 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 3: pole and it tipped over, but it was still transmitting images. 23 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 3: They transmitted beautiful color images at the south pole of 24 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: the Moon. Of the damn glass dome. I've been insisting 25 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: for decades covers the entire Moon in various states of disrepair. 26 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: Then this was followed by the Chinese mission, which was 27 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 3: June first. Do you know what else also happened on 28 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 3: June first. 29 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: Well, three days later it was my birthday. 30 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 3: Bow well, happy birthday, Chang. Of course, the Chinese mission 31 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:23,399 Speaker 3: to the Fire side was called Chang six. Right. They 32 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 3: landed on June first. Within hours, the Japanese billionaire Yasuku Mizawa, 33 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 3: remember the guy who bought a whole starship mission around 34 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 3: the Moon for nine artists from Elon Musk. Remember that guy. 35 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 3: He canceled his mission the same day as the Chinese 36 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: landed their unmanned spacecraft of the South on the far 37 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 3: side of the Moon. And when we get into the 38 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 3: photographs you will see why. Then NASA decided to uh 39 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 3: after in February, the Intuitive Machines, the private company down 40 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: in Houston that sent the first private enterprise I like 41 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 3: the ring of that name. First private enterprise mission to 42 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 3: the Moon. Remember that it barely landed, but it took 43 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 3: a whole bunch of amazing pictures. And then within months 44 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: of the pat suddenly NASA has announced its canceling the 45 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 3: viper mission, which Intuitive Machines was going to follow up 46 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,520 Speaker 3: with their odysseous mission in February with a landing on 47 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 3: the moon of South Pole to look for water et cetera, 48 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 3: et cetera in the Lake Paul of this year. 49 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: Are they blaming the money on this cancelation, I mean 50 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: it's budget. 51 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: This is not so. 52 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: No, this is a cover up, you know why, George. 53 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 3: Back during Apollo, there was a limited number umber of 54 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 3: people that realized on the Apollo imagery and the astronauts' 55 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 3: first person descriptions before their minds were altered by mind 56 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 3: control technology, that there was something astonishing about the Moon. 57 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: Then decades go by and we don't go near it. 58 00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:21,920 Speaker 3: Then we and a whole bunch of other nations start 59 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 3: going near it, and a whole new generation, maybe two 60 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 3: generations in NASA and in other space programs suddenly encountered 61 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 3: the reality of what their great great Apollo ancestors had 62 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 3: covered up. And the final straw was the Intuitive Machines 63 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 3: of Decius mission, which showed stunning glistening glass geometry, structures, houses, cities, factories, 64 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 3: whatever you want, hanging in the skies over the moon, 65 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 3: and they freaked out, George. They have no eye idea 66 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 3: how to tell the current population because it's too damn big. 67 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: So the best thing they can do is put it 68 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: on hold. Delay, delay, delay, delay, And that's why it 69 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 3: has to be part of the current election conversation. 70 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 2: And by delaying it they can skate off because they 71 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 2: don't have to explain it exactly. 72 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 3: I mean, you can't exactly book a flight to the moon, George. 73 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 3: The only people who can verify this are a few, 74 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 3: you know, giga billionaires governments, and if governments fall in 75 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: line and simply pretend, you know, in the consortium, oh 76 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: there's nothing there, nothing to see here, Move along, move along. 77 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 3: These are not the droids you're looking for. What can 78 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 3: we do? We have a window of opportunity to make 79 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 3: this an issue in this campaign which this presidential candidate 80 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 3: on the Democratic side says she wants to be about 81 00:06:03,080 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 3: the future. Well, let's test her. Let's see how much 82 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 3: future she really understands that she can have simply by 83 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 3: talking to NASA. 84 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 2: Do you believe is NASA running school now? 85 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 3: She's head of a space council. 86 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 2: As vice president, she's supposed to be. 87 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,159 Speaker 3: She's been at all kinds of meetings. I've been following 88 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: her career over the internet for years. She's gotten better 89 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 3: and better, She's asked better and better questions. She's in 90 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 3: the perfect position to turn to those NASA contacts under 91 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 3: law and simply say, show us what you really got. 92 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 2: Do you really expect her to do anything right now? 93 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 3: If your audience makes noise, there's no limit to what 94 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 3: can happen. I mean, don't you kind of notice we're 95 00:06:55,560 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 3: in a different environmental, social, cultural regime. Huge, something radical 96 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 3: has changed. Well remember my old grandmother, you know, who 97 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 3: had never touched the surfboarder in her life, but she 98 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 3: watched TV and she said one day, well, you can't 99 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 3: surf if surf isn't up. Surf is up, George. This 100 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 3: audience can be the perfect foil to bring this to 101 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:29,240 Speaker 3: public attention through a politically responsive system and moment in time. 102 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: Why are they running scared? 103 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 3: Because it's so damn huge? What is the first instinct 104 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 3: of normal, rational human beings when they confront an unknown 105 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 3: of this staggering proportion, to be afraid, to be very afraid. 106 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: You know how I know that, you well, whether they 107 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 2: afraid of us or something else. 108 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 3: These aliens. The look, this is a technology frozen in time, 109 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 3: which is the equivalent of god like powers. 110 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 2: How old are we talking about it? 111 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 3: Millions of years for the oldest stuff, millions of years 112 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 3: for the newer stuff, and maybe tens of thousands of 113 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 3: years when we get into the images for the most 114 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:21,679 Speaker 3: recent stuff, and it's right there, and a law Musk 115 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:25,920 Speaker 3: is developing the perfect way to really go. And isn't 116 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 3: it interesting because not only does he have his own 117 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 3: private space program, he's the prime contractor for the Lunar 118 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: lander for the Artemis mission. 119 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: Are you saying that NASA has confirmed what you've talked 120 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:40,840 Speaker 2: about for these last year years where. 121 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:45,839 Speaker 3: They're running at warp nine? Why else would you spend 122 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 3: half a billion dollars and then basically throw it in 123 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 3: the trash because it's not about money, not their money anyway, 124 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 3: it's our money. It's about remaining in charge officially, keeping 125 00:08:58,160 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 3: public order and preventing what all governments sphere which is uncertainty. 126 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 3: This is why Truman blink back in nineteen forty seven. 127 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 3: This is totally separate from UFOs, you understand, because, as 128 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 3: I've said for decades, the difference is UFOs will lie 129 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 3: to you ruins stand still. 130 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: That's true, and it is absolutely true. 131 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 3: And we have it within our grasp to go and 132 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 3: find out. 133 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 2: Has anybody else jumped on your bandwagon here? 134 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 3: Well, I'm premiering this on Coast to coast tonight, my 135 00:09:35,320 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 3: dear friend George. Now, what I want everybody to do 136 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 3: who has time to spare over the weekend. Saturday night, 137 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 3: we're going to go through with three hours much more evidence, 138 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: and Sunday night we're going to talk about very curious 139 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 3: things that have happened in the campaign on. 140 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 2: The other side of midnight. 141 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 3: On the other side of midnight, it's on the net, 142 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 3: it's on terrestrial radio. You can find it the other 143 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 3: side of Midnight dot com. So Saturday night, at ten 144 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 3: o'clock of Mountain nine o'clock Pacific, we do what they're 145 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 3: hiding on the moon, and we've made another astonishing physics 146 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,839 Speaker 3: discovery about the moon, which may be another reason why 147 00:10:19,920 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 3: they're apprehensive to let everybody know now, look, we know 148 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 3: now that it's not going to be you know, Joe 149 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 3: Biden that makes this announcement. But the Kamala Harris presidential 150 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 3: administration will have four years to grapple with not only 151 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 3: the UFO thing, but also this thing which is within 152 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 3: our grasp. We don't have wait for anybody to show up. 153 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 3: All we have to do is send a close up 154 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: mission to the moon and bingo, there it is. 155 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: Why aren't you approaching Trump's campaign? 156 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 3: Sagan? 157 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:57,439 Speaker 2: Why aren't you approaching Trump's campaign? 158 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 3: We have We gave him the whole damn bit. 159 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 2: And what was the response? 160 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 3: Nothing? Zero? He sat on it. Now, I have a feeling. 161 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 3: I can't prove this, George, but I have a feeling 162 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 3: that this may this video we prepared for him, may 163 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 3: it be the reason why he took all those top 164 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 3: top secret documents to mar A Lago, because he wanted 165 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 3: a bargaining chip. In those documents. There probably were top 166 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 3: top secret classified files on UFOs and maybe even alien 167 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 3: structures in the Solar system from NASA. And do you 168 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 3: notice how the entire federal case just suddenly went away 169 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 3: and just vanished because he was sitting on that was 170 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 3: his Trump guard un intended. 171 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: Well, said Richard c Oglin with us. His website is 172 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 2: called now the Other side of Midnight? Did you get 173 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:56,320 Speaker 2: rid of enterprise ession? 174 00:11:56,440 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 3: No, no enterprises of the archive of our papers, it's 175 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:05,560 Speaker 3: documented with you know, thousands of things we've written. But 176 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 3: the other side of Midnight is my active microphone to 177 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 3: the world. 178 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: Are other countries involved in what you have been just claiming? 179 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:20,839 Speaker 3: Well, the Indians and this is where things get really 180 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 3: involved in terms of what's going on with Modi, the 181 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 3: Indian Prime Minister, and their mission to the Moon. Did 182 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 3: you notice, George that suddenly in this election cycle, how 183 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:40,680 Speaker 3: many Americans of Indian heritage suddenly have run for president? 184 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: Good point? 185 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 3: Do you know why? 186 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 2: Why? 187 00:12:45,320 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 3: Because the Moon connection traces back to India to the 188 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 3: Veda connection, and that's one of the things we're going 189 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:55,800 Speaker 3: to talk about on Saturday night and then more again 190 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 3: next weekend. 191 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 2: Are you going to get into those flying vimanas? That 192 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 2: fascinates me? 193 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 3: But remember we found a structure on the moon. The 194 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,959 Speaker 3: so calls, well, well, we don't have a lot of time. 195 00:13:08,000 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 3: We should probably start with imagery because without the imagery, 196 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 3: this is just me, you know, kind of mouthing off 197 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 3: on the radio. 198 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 2: We'll do the images right at the top of the 199 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 2: excellent excellent, and folks just go to Coast tocosdam dot com. 200 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:26,319 Speaker 2: They're in the carousel reel. There's I think, what five images. 201 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 3: I'm being very very restrained. How'd you get them from 202 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 3: Natha and the Japanese and the Chinese? 203 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 2: Do they release them accident way? 204 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 3: All this stuff they're just not saying, Well, the art 205 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 3: form today to put yourself on the record, so when 206 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: the food fight comes as to who discovered what first, 207 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 3: they will have published data. There's nothing in the scientific 208 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 3: protocols to say that you have to, you know, scream 209 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 3: like a rooster when you publish something. The art form 210 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,959 Speaker 3: is to publish by day eight, so when the historical 211 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 3: folks take a look, you can establish by date you 212 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 3: were first. Well, the Chinese have been publishing data on 213 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 3: the ancient glass dome around the moon ever since they're 214 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 3: changed three lander back in twenty thirteen. 215 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 216 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: oneam Eastern and go to Coast to coastam dot com 217 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: for more