WEBVTT - We'll Go Swinging!

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George

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<v Speaker 1>Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty.

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<v Speaker 2>Arm Strong and Getty and He Armstrong and Getty.

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<v Speaker 3>He was a two time Oscar winner, nominated five times

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<v Speaker 3>over a career spanning forty years. Hollywood This Morning remembering

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<v Speaker 3>Gene Hackman, found dead alongside his wife Betsy Arakawa, and

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<v Speaker 3>their dog at their New Mexico home yesterday, the sheriff

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<v Speaker 3>saying overnight, I want to assure the community and the

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<v Speaker 3>neighborhood that there's no immediate danger to anyone, the sheriff,

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<v Speaker 3>not providing details on cause of death.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, unless you don't have your radar detector up to

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<v Speaker 1>speed or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there have been a couple of cases lately were

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<v Speaker 4>the cop shops.

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<v Speaker 1>There's no TURL threat too, yeah, right, And it was

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<v Speaker 1>a murderer. You're right, that had just a targeted murderer.

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't think that happened here, No, I suspect not.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it's interesting. So Gene Hackman my favorite actor

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<v Speaker 1>of all time, and in his early nineties, his wife

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<v Speaker 1>in her early sixties.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was just reading because he.

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<v Speaker 1>Retired from acting a long time ago. I'll bet not

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<v Speaker 1>realized he was. He was past ninety her I bet

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<v Speaker 1>her life had early on when they got together. He

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<v Speaker 1>was like early sixties and she was thirty. At that

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<v Speaker 1>point she was marrying one of the biggest movie stars

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. But I gotta believe for the last

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<v Speaker 1>quite a few years, decades, maybe it was just like

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<v Speaker 1>it had. His acting life had nothing to do with

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<v Speaker 1>their life at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, everybody's talking about him is acting in his

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<v Speaker 1>acting roles, but I bet it played no, no, had

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<v Speaker 1>no purchase in their lives on a daily basis, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>walk by an arm past. Yeah he's got on the

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<v Speaker 1>fireplace maybe somewhere, but they probably didn't even talk about

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<v Speaker 1>it or anything like that. He's been his sculpting and

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<v Speaker 1>painting mostly good for him, Yeah, good for the soul.

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<v Speaker 4>The only other thing I had to say about Gene Hackman,

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<v Speaker 4>who is a genius actor, but we don't you know,

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<v Speaker 4>we don't lionize actors really much around here, but that

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<v Speaker 4>he told the story that was incredibly touching on the

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<v Speaker 4>what the inside the actor's studio or whatever it is called.

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<v Speaker 4>The show I used to watch fair amount. He explained

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<v Speaker 4>that when he was a very young boy. I think

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<v Speaker 4>he might have been five. His father drove away and

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<v Speaker 4>never came back. Yeah yeah, And his father gave him

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<v Speaker 4>a casual wave outside the window, and he said he

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<v Speaker 4>knew at that moment his father was never coming back somehow,

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<v Speaker 4>And as he told the story, sixty years later he

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<v Speaker 4>had to choke back tears, or sixty five years later,

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<v Speaker 4>something like that got But he said he he realized

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<v Speaker 4>as he thought about it, the power of one small gesture,

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<v Speaker 4>and he thought that may be one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 4>he was a very good actor, because that made a

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<v Speaker 4>real impression on him that small things can yeah, sick

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<v Speaker 4>meaning interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I was reading about that last night.

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<v Speaker 1>He was thirteen years old and he's playing in the

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<v Speaker 1>street with his friends and his dad pulls out of

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<v Speaker 1>the driveway. He's getting a wave and drives away and

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<v Speaker 1>never comes back. Can you imagine anything horrible?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that?

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<v Speaker 1>Three years later he joins the Marines, lies about his age.

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<v Speaker 1>Joins the Marines as a sixteen year old and is

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<v Speaker 1>in the Marine Corps for four years. He didn't try

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<v Speaker 1>his hand at acting until he was dang near thirty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, you know. Just for the record, my son

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<v Speaker 2>is a trained and gifted actor, and the.

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<v Speaker 4>Art of it is really interesting to me, like a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of arts are. It's the self aggrandizement and self

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<v Speaker 4>congratulations and lecturing people on moral questions that Hollywood does

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<v Speaker 4>that's repugnant. I have nothing against acting anymore than I

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<v Speaker 4>have against playing the obow. Just don't do it around me,

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<v Speaker 4>okay the oboe.

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<v Speaker 1>Specifically this in the New York Times about Gene Hackman,

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<v Speaker 1>which I thought was good. He seemed to have been

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<v Speaker 1>born middle aged, slightly balding, with strong but unremarkable features,

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<v Speaker 1>neither plane nor handsome, more likely to melt into a

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<v Speaker 1>crowd than to stand out in one. That is not

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<v Speaker 1>usually what makes you, you know, at the very highest

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<v Speaker 1>level of being a movie star, the kind of person

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<v Speaker 1>that would blend into a crowd rather than stand out

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<v Speaker 1>in one. And he did seem to be born middle aged.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't find any even really early roles of him

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<v Speaker 1>where he doesn't seem like he's fifty.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I had that I'm a real human being

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<v Speaker 4>quality about him that sometimes the pretty boys don't.

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<v Speaker 1>My first introduction to Gene Hackman was The Poseidon Adventure. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're old enough to remember, that movie from the seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a period in the seventies where disaster movies

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<v Speaker 1>were just so big. Airplane disasters, boat disasters, trained disasters, earthquakes,

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<v Speaker 1>all that sort of thing, and all your biggest stars

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<v Speaker 1>would be in these films. Anyway, Beside Adventure was a

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a Titanic like movie, and he was a

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<v Speaker 1>He played.

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<v Speaker 2>A major role in that.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, yes, anyway, he will be missed. And I had

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<v Speaker 4>no idea he was in his nineties, soone time marching on.

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<v Speaker 4>Speaking of celebrities, Pam Bondi, the Attorney General, teased yesterday

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<v Speaker 4>on Jesse Waters Show that the Justice Department will likely

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<v Speaker 4>release the documents relating to Jeffrey Epstein today as we

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<v Speaker 4>speak on Thursday, the twenty seventh of February, the year

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<v Speaker 4>of our Lord twenty twenty five, including the plane logs

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<v Speaker 4>of who was on his planes to his pleasure Island

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<v Speaker 4>as pervert Island.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So, well, first of all, I'll ask you, do

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<v Speaker 1>you think that much of any interest is going to

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<v Speaker 1>come out of that gossip?

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<v Speaker 2>Lots of really great gossip.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I know people, and because I float around in

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<v Speaker 1>social media, I've read some of the stuff. But I

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<v Speaker 1>personally know people who are just convinced that Hillary Clinton's

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<v Speaker 1>about to go to jail, the whole movie star pedophile

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<v Speaker 1>thing is about to be blown up, or about to

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<v Speaker 1>find out all the details on this, Yeah, the Democratic

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<v Speaker 1>Party pedophile ring thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You're being manipulated, and it makes me sad.

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<v Speaker 4>There may be some significant revelations because they're absolutely rich

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<v Speaker 4>and powerful people that go along with perverse stuff. But

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<v Speaker 4>the only note of caution I would strike is that

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<v Speaker 4>we have all or most of us been involved in

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<v Speaker 4>say an organization or even like a golf club or

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<v Speaker 4>a friend group or whatever, and we you know, play

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<v Speaker 4>golf and have a few drinks or whatever, and turns

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<v Speaker 4>out that some of the guys you know on that

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<v Speaker 4>level are off doing something else.

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<v Speaker 2>You're not included in it.

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<v Speaker 4>You're not part of that subgroup that's doing you know,

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<v Speaker 4>crazy stuff with drug sex, white swapping, whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And wife some of these people might have what do

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<v Speaker 2>you call it these days? Swinging?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because the wife has agency too. I mean, my god,

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<v Speaker 4>what an antiquated term. Swinging is the term?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? It makes it seem like.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, hey, sorry, dear, I just I've swapped you with

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<v Speaker 4>Bill over there.

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<v Speaker 1>I deal I just made a deal with Bill. You

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<v Speaker 1>need to go to his house tonight. What exactly, so

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<v Speaker 1>we'll go swinging.

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<v Speaker 4>But anyway, because it's conceivable, because this was a rich

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<v Speaker 4>guy who lived a super rich guy life which included

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<v Speaker 4>underage girl porno, sick sexual exploitation. But not everybody who

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<v Speaker 4>had lunch with him was part of the super pervos stuff,

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm saying. But because he was a super

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<v Speaker 4>rich financier and a mover and a shaker.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I think he killed himself in jail because he

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<v Speaker 1>lived the life of luxury and wealth and nothing good

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<v Speaker 1>was going to happen at his life at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he killed himself. I don't think somebody slipped

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<v Speaker 1>in and stuffed him or something like that. That personally,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's kind of weird how those cameras didn't work,

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<v Speaker 1>that is. But the weirdest thing of the whole Epstein's

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<v Speaker 1>story has always been, what in the hell was that

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<v Speaker 1>giant painting of Bill Clinton in a dress right in

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<v Speaker 1>the doorway when you walk into Epstein's house, pointing.

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<v Speaker 2>At you, What the hell is that?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm worried about the victims Jack, not the painting, But

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<v Speaker 4>that was an odd piece of heart.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it means something. It gets to the victims, it

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<v Speaker 1>means something. What the hell is that? Help me understand?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I don't know, but I've always I've always thought

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<v Speaker 2>it was.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're a mover and a shaker in Manhattan,

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<v Speaker 1>where the Clintons are idolized and Bill Clinton was their god,

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<v Speaker 1>and you have in your home. What how would you

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<v Speaker 1>describe it as anything other than mocking of Bill Clinton?

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<v Speaker 1>You got him in a dress? Right, I remember your

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<v Speaker 1>old theory? Do you remember your old theory?

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<v Speaker 2>And he's pointing at you.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a I've got something on this guy

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<v Speaker 1>and he knows it, and he better remember I got

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<v Speaker 1>something on this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's what it is. And many many other

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<v Speaker 2>guys too, right, Yeah, yeah, I would agree. I would agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if we're going to find anything out

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<v Speaker 1>about that from the paperwork that Pam Bondi releases today.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, So so many directions we could go. I've been

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<v Speaker 4>wanting to get to the story of this awful broad

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<v Speaker 4>daylight assault in La on the street. This gang of

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<v Speaker 4>twenty to thirty bicyclists, late teens men. They're young men.

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<v Speaker 4>They rove around like a gang. They intimidate drivers, they

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<v Speaker 4>kick their cars, whatever, and terrorize pedestrians.

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<v Speaker 2>The rest of it almost got yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Almost certainly riding s E bikes because that said, like

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<v Speaker 1>the bike my son rides.

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<v Speaker 2>The bike crowds do this sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll ride that brand for some reason, and they wheeling

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<v Speaker 1>around and intimidate you.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been in the midst.

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<v Speaker 4>Of oh yeah, interesting so But anyway, this guy got

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<v Speaker 4>out of his car to confront some of them after

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<v Speaker 4>they struck and kicked his vehicle. Yea, and the startling

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<v Speaker 4>video preps you've seen it showed the teens ganging up

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<v Speaker 4>on the man, relentlessly punching, kicking, and stomping him as

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<v Speaker 4>he laid defenseless on the ground. Other suspects rode up,

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<v Speaker 4>leafed off, leaped off their bikes, threw them off in

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<v Speaker 4>the excitement to join in the attack. The hoodie wearing

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<v Speaker 4>teens rode off after beating the man to a pulp

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<v Speaker 4>scene lying motionless on the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>That's horrible.

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<v Speaker 1>So one time I'm in Old Sacramento and a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of bikes come at me as I'm driving down the street,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like they're coming straight at me, so I

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<v Speaker 1>hit the brakes and they ride. They continue to ride

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<v Speaker 1>toward me until they're like on top of me. They're

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<v Speaker 1>doing wheelies the whole time on their se bikes, and

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<v Speaker 1>they have the ability to swerve. Like the last second

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<v Speaker 1>before they hit your car, I thought they were gonna

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<v Speaker 1>run right into me. I didn't think they were even

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<v Speaker 1>seeing me, And they swerve, and then they go on

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<v Speaker 1>around me and they just they all go around really

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<v Speaker 1>close your car. Nobody was kicking the car or anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that, but I didn't know what to do. It was.

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<v Speaker 2>It was intimidating in a way, like what is this?

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<v Speaker 4>And of course, because the victim was white and many

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<v Speaker 4>of the attackers young men of color, we will not

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<v Speaker 4>be describing the race of anyone involved. Of course, according

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<v Speaker 4>to our policy, if the roles had been reversed, we

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<v Speaker 4>would make it all about.

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<v Speaker 2>That for weeks at a time back town.

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<v Speaker 1>And the only reason I bring up the brand of

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<v Speaker 1>bikes is I know a store, a very popular bike store,

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<v Speaker 1>that won't sell that brand because it's associated with this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of bad activity, even though it's a great bicycle.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow.

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<v Speaker 4>I had no idea of that crazy coming up later

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<v Speaker 4>in the hour, the most obvious, egregious, instructive example of

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<v Speaker 4>the homeless industrial complex and how it squanders money you've

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<v Speaker 4>ever heard stay with us on the.

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<v Speaker 5>Way, Michael Moore warns that America could be deporting illegals

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<v Speaker 5>that might one day cure cancer or stop an incoming asteroid,

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<v Speaker 5>or even more troubling, they may fail to deliver his

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<v Speaker 5>meat lover's pizza.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a big man, Michael Moore.

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<v Speaker 1>Got you see the whole deal of us getting some

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<v Speaker 1>of the money and rights to rare earth metals in

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<v Speaker 1>Ukraine and whether or not that's come to come together.

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Street Journal with some interesting reporting on that. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get to later this hour. I know, Joe, you've

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<v Speaker 1>got some homeless updates for.

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<v Speaker 4>US homeless industrial complex. Yes, the profit that is there

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<v Speaker 4>for pretending to deal with transient drug addicts.

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<v Speaker 1>So my son's got a big science project. This is

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<v Speaker 1>like one of the big parts of your grade for

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<v Speaker 1>the whole semester, my seventh grader, And it's one of

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<v Speaker 1>those they give you like a six weeks to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>And he, unlike his old man, has started the project

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<v Speaker 1>weeks before it's due, whereas I would have turned my

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<v Speaker 1>attention to what the project was going to be in

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<v Speaker 1>roughly five and a half weeks. But so we went

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<v Speaker 1>to the hardware story yesterday and here's what he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to do. Is hypothesis is that plants grow better being

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<v Speaker 1>nurtured by water than they will with coca cola. And

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<v Speaker 1>so we bought eight different little tiny pots. It's going

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<v Speaker 1>to plant strawberry seeds in each one, but four of

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<v Speaker 1>them will only get coca cola and four of them

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<v Speaker 1>will get water. They all get the same amount of sun,

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<v Speaker 1>have the same amount of soil, all that sort of

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<v Speaker 1>stuff a single variable. The only variable is water versus

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<v Speaker 1>coca cola. The problem, of course, is what if the

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<v Speaker 1>strawberries grow better on coca cola? Then what do we

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<v Speaker 1>do do I have I discovered something important and I

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<v Speaker 1>need to figure out a way.

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<v Speaker 2>To become rich.

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<v Speaker 4>Try Brono. Next, they got that gatorade like a drink.

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<v Speaker 4>In the thought it was a comedy.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a documentary idiocracy exactly like what if the strawberries

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<v Speaker 1>are like deliciously sweet and just a bit fizzy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the whole science experiment thing, it's fantastic. What a great

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<v Speaker 1>idea to teach people the scientific method, which is amazing

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<v Speaker 1>that it was such a breakthrough for humanity to come

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<v Speaker 1>up with. You know, you try something, Yeah, you have

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<v Speaker 1>a you know, non variables, and you have as few

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<v Speaker 1>variables as you can one variable as best and compare

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<v Speaker 1>it and then you can move on forward. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it got us out of, you know, quite the jam

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<v Speaker 1>human beings were in, what laying around in their own filth?

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<v Speaker 2>Sure of the dark ages.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, although the woke crowd want to take us back

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<v Speaker 4>to pre enlightenment, two plus two does not necessarily equal four.

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<v Speaker 2>If they can get you to repeat that, they can

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<v Speaker 2>get you to repeat anything.

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<v Speaker 1>So Zelensky might become into Washington, d C. To sign

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<v Speaker 1>the rare Earth's Metal deal that Donald Trump is writing up.

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<v Speaker 1>Wallstre Journal reported yesterday that Zelensky said he wasn't sure

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<v Speaker 1>if he would go or not. The financial benefits of

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<v Speaker 1>the deal remain up in the air, right to the

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<v Speaker 1>Wall Street Journal. The text of the deal, which has

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<v Speaker 1>been viewed by the Wall Street Journal, includes the creation

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<v Speaker 1>of a fund co owned by the two countries, with

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<v Speaker 1>the details of the financial arrangement to be determined down

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<v Speaker 1>the line. That's interesting those details seem to be the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing to me, the details of the financial It's

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<v Speaker 1>like taking a job. The details of the financial arrangement

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<v Speaker 1>will be determined down the line, like what you get

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<v Speaker 1>paid and how often you have to work.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's the whole enchilada right there. That's the way

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<v Speaker 4>the whole thing has struck me all along. There are

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<v Speaker 4>so many gigantic question marks. I don't what in what

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<v Speaker 4>sense is there an agreement? How are you going to

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<v Speaker 4>sign it?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Is it one of those frameworks to proceed on the

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<v Speaker 4>framework of an agreement?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I wouldn't fly to DC for something that skimpy. Yet,

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<v Speaker 1>the agreement lacks explicit security guarantees for Ukraine, which Zelensky

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<v Speaker 1>had previously said would be necessary for any mineral right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and nods toward Kiev's need for such assurances. One clause

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<v Speaker 1>of the agreement says the US supports Ukraine's efforts to

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<v Speaker 1>obtain security guarantees needed to establish lasting piece, which of

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<v Speaker 1>course is meaningless language. But Mark Alpern writes of this

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<v Speaker 1>today in his newsletter. If Trump hass to negotiate the

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<v Speaker 1>final details with Zelenski in the room right before the

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<v Speaker 1>pack is signed, he's fine with that, But as important

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<v Speaker 1>as the US Ukraine agreement is, keep your eyes on

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<v Speaker 1>the real prize, which is the US Russia deal. Trump

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<v Speaker 1>is sequencing all this to position himself to drive a

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<v Speaker 1>harder bargain with Putin, much harder than many people seem

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<v Speaker 1>to realize.

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<v Speaker 2>Rights Mark Alprin m.

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<v Speaker 4>We will see, Yeah, the whole Uh, what can we

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<v Speaker 4>offer Putin? To what extent can we pry him from China?

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<v Speaker 4>Is there anything we can offer? How is an agreement

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<v Speaker 4>going to be enforced? That is such a kettle of fish?

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<v Speaker 4>These are question marks piled on question marks.

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<v Speaker 1>Although yesterday in that press conference Cabinet meeting thingy, Trump

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<v Speaker 1>made some noises out, well, if we're invested in the

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<v Speaker 1>minerals and we got people and trucks in there, then

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's some.

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<v Speaker 2>Security right there.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't because nobody's going to mess with our stuff, Trump said,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think might be true explicitly or not. Armstrong

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<v Speaker 1>and Getty, we need to.

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<v Speaker 2>Change the conversation.

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<v Speaker 6>And that's why I'm launching a new podcast, and this

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<v Speaker 6>is going to be anything but the ordinary politician podcast.

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<v Speaker 6>I'm going to be talking to people directly that I

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<v Speaker 6>disagree with as well as people I look up to. Look,

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<v Speaker 6>there's an onslaught of information that we take in, So

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<v Speaker 6>let's take it to the sources without the typical political

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<v Speaker 6>mumbo jumble. In the first few weeks, we're going to

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<v Speaker 6>be sitting down with some of the biggest leaders and

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<v Speaker 6>architects in the Mega movement.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a Gavin Newsom, maybe you don't recognize voice governor California.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got a site set on being the nominee for

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party in someday president of the United States.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a great idea his new podcast. As

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<v Speaker 1>we know, as we are in the business, it's all

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<v Speaker 1>in the execution, and we'll see how that goes.

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<v Speaker 4>Right. Indeed, he got credit for sparring with Ron DeSantis

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<v Speaker 4>on Hannity's show, and he obviously fancies that if he's

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<v Speaker 4>seen as the brave defender of progressive values against the

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<v Speaker 4>mean old mega people, it will vault him into, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>the presidential race. As I've said many times, I hope

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<v Speaker 4>he runs because his humiliation will be delicious to observe.

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<v Speaker 4>If indeed there is a God for a number of reasons,

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<v Speaker 4>including as any cal Unicornian knows, pouring billions and billions

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<v Speaker 4>of dollars into so called homeless programs, and not only

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<v Speaker 4>without any accountability, without even a mechanism for accountability, there

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<v Speaker 4>was no mechanism for even asking is any of this

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<v Speaker 4>stuff doing any good?

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<v Speaker 2>But it is enormous scandal and the bullet train.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, first of all, Hanson, I don't know if

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<v Speaker 1>anybody knows that is he is this going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a like every weekday or once a month, or do

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<v Speaker 1>we have any idea on how often he's doing his podcast?

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<v Speaker 2>Unknown?

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<v Speaker 4>Perhaps weekly huh, yeah, yeah, it's got to be a

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<v Speaker 4>periodic thing. But I just wanted to mention Gavy and

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<v Speaker 4>the homeless thing to get us into the next discussion,

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<v Speaker 4>and I mentioned I think it was yesterday the Biden

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<v Speaker 4>EPA on the way out the door announced that it

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<v Speaker 4>had selected an organization named Young Gifted and Green that

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<v Speaker 4>was run by Latricia Adams, who was simultaneously serving as

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<v Speaker 4>a member of the top White House Advisory Council. But

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<v Speaker 4>twenty million dollars to Young Gifted and Green. How sweet

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<v Speaker 4>a name is that under it so called Environmental and

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<v Speaker 4>Climate Justice community change program.

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<v Speaker 1>God, some people get thrilled when they hear names like

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<v Speaker 1>that I hold onto my wallet and think what a

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<v Speaker 1>wasted time and money as soon as I.

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<v Speaker 2>Hear anything with those words.

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<v Speaker 4>If we had more time, we could play a game

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<v Speaker 4>where Jack would name like, I don't know, spending uh

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<v Speaker 4>fifty thousand dollars on sail boats sail repairs, and then

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<v Speaker 4>I would have to justify that within environmental and climate

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<v Speaker 4>justice community change programs, which could mean anything.

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<v Speaker 2>The point is to dole out as.

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<v Speaker 4>Horrific amounts of money to your cronies always, which brings

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<v Speaker 4>us to this city journal doing a really good story.

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<v Speaker 4>Interesting is Longish but Son John Friedman. Urban Anarchy, a

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<v Speaker 4>San Francisco's nonprofits rise, illustrates the unaccountable growth of homeless services.

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<v Speaker 4>And this is about the so called homeless industrial complex,

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<v Speaker 4>which is not probably a big deal in some places.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a ginormous deal in Blue states and ambition in California.

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<v Speaker 4>And they focus on this group Urban Alchemy, a San

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<v Speaker 4>Francisco based homeless services non profit. They mentioned once you

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<v Speaker 4>notice Urban Alchemy employees on the street corners, clad in

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<v Speaker 4>their signature camouflage pans and high visibility vests, you'll start

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<v Speaker 4>seeing them everywhere. They patrol subway stations, downtown staff, public

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<v Speaker 4>toilets and libraries, sweep streets, mill round homeless shelters.

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<v Speaker 2>In the morning, they watch silently.

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<v Speaker 4>Is the local night market, an informal gathering of junkies,

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<v Speaker 4>drug dealers, and stolen goods vendors disperses for the day.

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<v Speaker 4>They're not security guards or police officers. They're actually, interestingly,

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<v Speaker 4>almost all ex convicts who allegedly that gives them well.

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<v Speaker 4>On its website, Urban Alchemy believes that quote the trauma

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<v Speaker 4>of long term incarceration compels individuals to undergo inner work

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<v Speaker 4>that transforms the self, equipping them with extraordinary emotional intelligence

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<v Speaker 4>and leadership skills, and uniquely qualifying them to connect with

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<v Speaker 4>the most marginalized in our society. That last part I'm

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<v Speaker 4>willing to buy, at least partially. But the idea that

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<v Speaker 4>you've got to be incarcerated for a long time to

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<v Speaker 4>really get the wisdom you need to deal with lise

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<v Speaker 4>so bizarre an ocean. But here's the point of all this.

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<v Speaker 4>I just want to explain who these people are. At

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<v Speaker 4>his founding in twenty eighteen, Urban Alchemy's annual revenue was

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<v Speaker 4>thirty five thousand dollars. To do what they wanted to do.

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<v Speaker 4>Gleaned mainly from contracts to operate public toilets. Today that

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<v Speaker 4>figure exceeds Brace yourselves, seventy million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Seventy million.

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<v Speaker 4>I was expecting a big number, but wow, stemming largely

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<v Speaker 4>from government contracts to perform a range of additional public services,

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<v Speaker 4>including running homeless shelters, cleaning streets, de escalating non urgent

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<v Speaker 4>street conflicts across seven cities nationwide. And you just know,

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<v Speaker 4>whenever they're throwing money around with these things, you could

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<v Speaker 4>show up and say, hey, I've got a plan me

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<v Speaker 4>and my buddies for de escalating street conflicts.

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<v Speaker 2>We both I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>He has a master's in philosophy, whatever you coint.

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<v Speaker 4>He's marginalized in a person of color, which makes him

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<v Speaker 4>obviously an expert. Yes, writer, he lived on the street

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<v Speaker 4>for a while, So give us five hundred thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 4>and we will dedicate our time.

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<v Speaker 2>It'd be so easy to grab onto chunks of this money.

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<v Speaker 2>You just know it would be. There are a number

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<v Speaker 2>of aspects of this that are super interesting.

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<v Speaker 4>Here's one of them. How did they go to a

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<v Speaker 4>seventy million dollar organization? Most immediate explanation is Progressive America's

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<v Speaker 4>fatish interest in alternatives to policing after George Floyd. Though

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<v Speaker 4>Urban Alchemy's employees are neither licensed to security guards and

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<v Speaker 4>are properly accredited in crisis management, They've been contracted to

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<v Speaker 4>respond to non emergency nine one one and three one

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<v Speaker 4>one homeless related calls in certain neighborhoods San Francisco and LA,

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<v Speaker 4>and run sanctioned homeless encoumpments in Portland the Broader Bay

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<v Speaker 4>area San Francisco. Unsurprisingly, things often go awry. UA employees

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<v Speaker 4>have shot and been shot, dealt drugs, sexually assaulted clients

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<v Speaker 4>on the job, and there is scant hard evidence that

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<v Speaker 4>their street psychology based interventions have improved public safety at all. Shocking, and,

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<v Speaker 4>as they write in City Journal, Urban Alchemy is a

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<v Speaker 4>case study in the expansion of the multi billion dollar

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<v Speaker 4>homeless services industry. Most of us are now familiar with

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<v Speaker 4>the phrase homeless industrial complex and the fact that increased

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<v Speaker 4>investment in our unhoused neighbors seems to only beget worse outcomes.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, I've been saying this for years.

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<v Speaker 1>Show me an example of a homeless program that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>result in more.

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<v Speaker 4>Homeless people, right, Yeah, yeah, on paper, urban alchemy. It

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<v Speaker 4>does not police the homeless. It goes in and runs

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<v Speaker 4>things in ds blah bamah. We described that this model

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<v Speaker 4>often leads to subpar results, to put it generously on

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<v Speaker 4>the ground, both for UA employees and their clients. In

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<v Speaker 4>sas Alito, a wealthy Marine county town that's brought the

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<v Speaker 4>organization into work in several city sanctioned homeless camps. They're

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<v Speaker 4>not homeless camps. By the way, Transient drug addict is

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<v Speaker 4>a much more accurate right, if.

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<v Speaker 1>You're worried about being homeless, why in the hell would

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<v Speaker 1>you live in Sasilito, California, one of the most expensive

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<v Speaker 1>little tiny plots of land on earth? Right, Good lord,

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<v Speaker 1>I know very few people in my entire life who

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<v Speaker 1>could afford to live in Sacelito, California.

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<v Speaker 4>But Jack, if I were a transient drug addict, why

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<v Speaker 4>would I want to live in Sasolito?

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<v Speaker 1>Because they're going to hand out money to you, and

0:25:18.359 --> 0:25:21.280
<v Speaker 1>the weather's nice and it's incredibly pleasant. Yeah, the views

0:25:21.320 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 1>are magnificent. I can't afford to live there, and I

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<v Speaker 1>got a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 4>Anyway, where were we In sauce Alito, they run several

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<v Speaker 4>city sanctioned drug addict camps for the San Francisco Standard.

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<v Speaker 4>Homeless residents alleged that UA practitioners ran a criminal syndicate

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<v Speaker 4>that involved trafficking crystal meth in the camps and sleeping

0:25:38.359 --> 0:25:43.359
<v Speaker 4>with and is physically assaulting residents. There's an ongoing federal

0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:48.800
<v Speaker 4>rico lawsuit, and you know, we will post the link

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<v Speaker 4>to this if you want to read it. It's great journalism.

0:25:51.920 --> 0:25:53.800
<v Speaker 4>It goes into a great deal of depth. It names

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<v Speaker 4>a bunch of names who set them up with the

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<v Speaker 4>contracts and how it worked. But the tens of millions

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<v Speaker 4>of dollars just to this organization, and the billions and

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<v Speaker 4>billions of dollars that are being squandered in the blue

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<v Speaker 4>left coast of America just breathtaking.

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<v Speaker 2>But and this is.

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<v Speaker 4>Bless one oh one, and you're probably fully up on this.

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<v Speaker 4>I apologize for insulting your intelligence. But if you can

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<v Speaker 4>attach even the thinnest of feel good rationales for it,

0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:34.040
<v Speaker 4>the good decent people of America say, wow, these poor

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<v Speaker 4>people are homeless because housing is high. I heard, and

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:39.600
<v Speaker 4>they just had one medical bill they couldn't pay, and

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<v Speaker 4>now they're homeless, and so this is good that the

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<v Speaker 4>people who actually pay taxes, their dollars are being confiscated

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<v Speaker 4>and given to these poor homeless people. It sounds good.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you can dig like an inch deep and

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<v Speaker 4>you realize what a load of crap it is. And

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<v Speaker 4>to get back to how we introduced it, you go

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<v Speaker 4>to the average soft headed American who doesn't pay attention.

0:26:58.920 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 4>Maybe they're busy, maybe they're dumb, and those are two

0:27:02.320 --> 0:27:07.239
<v Speaker 4>very different things, right, right, right. I know people who

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<v Speaker 4>are brilliant, they make me look like a dog, but

0:27:10.720 --> 0:27:13.360
<v Speaker 4>they're busy with business or whatever, and they don't really

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<v Speaker 4>pay attention to politics.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's fine.

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<v Speaker 4>I get that, although you know, James Madison Thomas Jefferson

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<v Speaker 4>would say it's not fine at all.

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<v Speaker 2>You're a citizen. You need to be responsible anyway.

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<v Speaker 4>Tangent on a tangent, you can easily picture soft heads

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<v Speaker 4>of reasonably good conscience responding to the group young, Gifted

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<v Speaker 4>and Green spending twenty million dollars on environmental and climate

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<v Speaker 4>justice and community change.

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<v Speaker 2>That all sounds so good. But that's the scam, friends,

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<v Speaker 2>that's the scam. God, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always been struck right away by the people who

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<v Speaker 1>are homeless in really nice areas of the country because

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<v Speaker 1>I've lived in lots of crappy places, cheap towns or

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<v Speaker 1>crappy apartments because there's all I can afford. I would

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<v Speaker 1>love to have lived over there, but I couldn't afford it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand why. The first thought when you've got

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<v Speaker 1>someone homeless and sauce Alito is.

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<v Speaker 2>Go somewhere cheaper.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a shopping at saxophonth Avenue and saying I

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<v Speaker 1>can't afford any shoes. Well, then we need to come

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<v Speaker 1>up with the programs you can afford shoes as supposed

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<v Speaker 1>saying go to Target.

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<v Speaker 4>That's exactly right, great square, but they have much cheaper

0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:24.639
<v Speaker 4>shoes over there. Yeah, yeah, I had another thought. It

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:27.360
<v Speaker 4>flitted right out of my head. That's a good metaphor, though.

0:28:27.560 --> 0:28:29.240
<v Speaker 2>And uh steal man this for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Your Gavin Newsom doing the podcast and I ask why

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<v Speaker 1>why does your state have half the homeless people in

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<v Speaker 1>the entire country?

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<v Speaker 2>And what would his response be.

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<v Speaker 4>Eh, the high housing costs of California restrictive zoning, which

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<v Speaker 4>we're working to overcome high medical costs brought about by Republicans,

0:28:49.600 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 4>and we're taking this challenge head on.

0:28:52.680 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 2>He's really good at that.

0:28:54.240 --> 0:28:58.720
<v Speaker 4>He's really good at pretending that that Democrat progressive policies

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<v Speaker 4>which have brought the night Mayor of crime, junkies, the

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<v Speaker 4>rest of it on the Blue States of the left coast,

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:07.000
<v Speaker 4>that they felt like rain. He woke up one day

0:29:07.040 --> 0:29:10.120
<v Speaker 4>and it was there, and he is bravely confronting.

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:11.720
<v Speaker 2>It like the hero he is. That's his thing, that's

0:29:11.760 --> 0:29:12.360
<v Speaker 2>his trademark.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh and the thought that flitted out of my head,

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:16.280
<v Speaker 4>I remember this, and I just I've got to do

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<v Speaker 4>a touchdown dance. So obviously, as a show that's been

0:29:20.280 --> 0:29:23.840
<v Speaker 4>based in northern California for many, many years, we were

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<v Speaker 4>very early to the junkie camp homeless industrial complex story.

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<v Speaker 4>And I remember distinctly when Jack and I would talk

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<v Speaker 4>to people who were like recovering drug addicts and had

0:29:36.960 --> 0:29:38.720
<v Speaker 4>spent time in the junkie camps and would come to

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<v Speaker 4>us and say, dudes, it's eighty percent of it's just junkies,

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<v Speaker 4>and a lot of them are from other places that

0:29:45.760 --> 0:29:48.440
<v Speaker 4>came because the benefits are so great and it's so easy.

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:50.640
<v Speaker 4>You never get arrested, You get food, you get clothing,

0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 4>you get syringes, you get everything.

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:53.880
<v Speaker 2>These people have come from all over the country.

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<v Speaker 4>The activists and the progressive government people would sternly say

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<v Speaker 4>to us, that's not true. These are poor and unfortunate

0:30:04.680 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 4>people who live here who have been marginalized by the system. Well,

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:12.360
<v Speaker 4>now it's becoming utterly clear, and nobody's even bothering to

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:15.600
<v Speaker 4>deny it anymore. That where you have you know, what

0:30:15.920 --> 0:30:17.760
<v Speaker 4>was the name of the organization. We were just talking

0:30:17.800 --> 0:30:22.400
<v Speaker 4>about this group, Urban Alchemy, And you have tens of

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:25.080
<v Speaker 4>millions of dollars being poured into the junkie camps, and

0:30:25.160 --> 0:30:27.600
<v Speaker 4>more and more junkies every day. There is almost not

0:30:27.680 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 4>an exception of that rule. They always grow, That's all

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:34.720
<v Speaker 4>they do is grow. It is clearly people flocking there

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<v Speaker 4>to enjoy how easy and comfortable it is to be

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<v Speaker 4>a junkie in those places.

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<v Speaker 2>Period.

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<v Speaker 1>So at Columbia, you know university, the whack job pro

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<v Speaker 1>terrorist college students took over a building again yesterday and

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<v Speaker 1>with a bunch of demands and the chants and whatnot.

0:30:51.760 --> 0:30:53.000
<v Speaker 2>We like to hear people's chants.

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<v Speaker 4>The old demand and chant isnt all that's the old playbook, Jack.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe we'll get to that in an hour. Three.

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<v Speaker 1>We've also got a late night joke off at some plate.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you can stick around.

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<v Speaker 7>Shop authorities sounding the alarm after multiple freight train robberies

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:12.960
<v Speaker 7>targeting shipments of Nike sneakers in remote areas of the

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<v Speaker 7>Desert Southwest. The most recent heist January thirteenth and parent

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<v Speaker 7>Arizona thieves allegedly using this box truck, grabbing nearly two

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<v Speaker 7>thousand pairs of brand new, unreleased Nike sneakers worth four

0:31:26.480 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 7>hundred thousand dollars. Thanks to tracking devices inside some of

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<v Speaker 7>the cargo, eleven people were arrested.

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<v Speaker 2>They get on it, they.

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<v Speaker 6>Cut a brake line, stop that train, and it's basically

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<v Speaker 6>a shopper's delight.

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<v Speaker 7>At least ten heists since last March, netting more than

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<v Speaker 7>two million dollars in stolen Nikes. Authorities say criminal gangs

0:31:45.760 --> 0:31:48.520
<v Speaker 7>linked to the Sinaloa cartel are behind the thefts.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, I wasn't ready for that twist. At the end,

0:31:53.520 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 1>it to Mexican drug cartels the key word in that

0:31:56.960 --> 0:32:01.760
<v Speaker 1>whole thing, because my son is A is a sneaker yunkie, unreleased.

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:04.880
<v Speaker 1>So the unreleased Nikes, man, those things go on sale,

0:32:05.000 --> 0:32:08.960
<v Speaker 1>they sell out immediately, and they're on eBay for two, three, five,

0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:14.280
<v Speaker 1>fifteen times what they cost if you can get them

0:32:14.360 --> 0:32:15.920
<v Speaker 1>originally when Nike releases them.

0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:17.880
<v Speaker 2>So those unreleased shows, you can make a lot of

0:32:17.920 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 2>money on those.

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<v Speaker 4>The cartels are absolutely operating in the United States now

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<v Speaker 4>at a high level.

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<v Speaker 1>So next hour Columbia students idiots took over a building yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>had demands and the administration bowed to them as they

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:37.920
<v Speaker 1>usually do.

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<v Speaker 2>It's ridiculous and you've got to hear their chanting. Yeah,

0:32:42.560 --> 0:32:44.040
<v Speaker 2>some of the chanting is extra stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>And oh and if you maybe you I hate to

0:32:48.600 --> 0:32:50.600
<v Speaker 1>say fell for it because it makes it seem like,

0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, if you fall for something, you're a you know,

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:56.280
<v Speaker 1>you're a dupe or dumb or naive or something.

0:32:56.520 --> 0:32:58.320
<v Speaker 2>In the world of AI, we're all going to fall

0:32:58.320 --> 0:32:59.400
<v Speaker 2>for things all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>You need to come up with a different term that

0:33:04.080 --> 0:33:08.920
<v Speaker 1>doesn't have any you know, negative prejudice to it, because

0:33:08.920 --> 0:33:10.800
<v Speaker 1>we're all going to get fooled by AI.

0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:13.320
<v Speaker 2>In all kinds of different ways. Yeah, yep, agreed.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, Don Junior clip that was floating around yesterday and

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<v Speaker 1>we'll play that for you in hour three. Also, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to read it. Dear Abbey and Joe can react

0:33:22.520 --> 0:33:25.280
<v Speaker 1>to a joke Joe's big. I don't know how many

0:33:25.840 --> 0:33:27.480
<v Speaker 1>like Katie. Do you know what Dear Abbey is? I

0:33:27.480 --> 0:33:29.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know how long? When when did Dear Abbey have

0:33:29.760 --> 0:33:31.760
<v Speaker 1>its main traction? I don't know when Dear Abby went

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:34.920
<v Speaker 1>out of style. Used to be you get your daily newspaper,

0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:37.400
<v Speaker 1>made on actual paper, out on the drive. You don't know,

0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:40.960
<v Speaker 1>Dear Abby, you got it was an advice column, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was like you'd call in with your problems of

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<v Speaker 1>my mom meets with her mouth open and it drives

0:33:47.040 --> 0:33:48.720
<v Speaker 1>me crazy and I don't know what to do. Dear

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 1>Abby tell me what to do, And then Dear Abbey

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:52.640
<v Speaker 1>would write, well, try to have a conversation with your

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<v Speaker 1>mother where you both can keep your tempers and come

0:33:56.320 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 1>to a reasonable agreement. Yeah, it was from the fairly

0:34:00.560 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 1>silly and light too sometimes fairly serious problem. I don't

0:34:04.200 --> 0:34:07.480
<v Speaker 1>know who writes to your issued advice Caline. I don't

0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 1>know who writes Dear Abbey anymore. But here's one I

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:12.719
<v Speaker 1>came across in the New York Post. Dear Abby, I've

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:15.319
<v Speaker 1>been in a relationship with someone for eleven months. We

0:34:15.320 --> 0:34:18.440
<v Speaker 1>were both each other's first relationship after being single for

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:20.800
<v Speaker 1>a few years following traumatic breakups.

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:24.440
<v Speaker 2>I was like that he had a traumatic breakup.

0:34:24.520 --> 0:34:28.399
<v Speaker 1>All breakups are traumatic, with very very rare exceptions.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, no kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>During our entire relationship, he has not cut his hair,

0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:37.560
<v Speaker 1>left his house, or socialized with anyone besides me except

0:34:37.680 --> 0:34:38.240
<v Speaker 1>via text.

0:34:38.520 --> 0:34:41.279
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't visit me, but he always leaves his door

0:34:41.320 --> 0:34:41.759
<v Speaker 2>open to me.

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 1>We've discussed going out, but he always finds a reason

0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:47.399
<v Speaker 1>to stay inside. After a while, I realized these were

0:34:47.440 --> 0:34:50.719
<v Speaker 1>just excuses. He says he loves me, but he will

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:52.040
<v Speaker 1>not leave the house.

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<v Speaker 4>What should I do, Dear Abby, find a boyfriend who's

0:34:57.440 --> 0:34:59.280
<v Speaker 4>not an agoraphobic hermit.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel sorry for that.

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Usually that that was always my reaction to any dear

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:07.959
<v Speaker 1>Yavy column was feeling sorry for the person who wrote

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:10.120
<v Speaker 1>the letter. You don't know what to do in this situation.

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 1>You got to find a different boyfriend. He's a crazy person. Well,

0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:15.960
<v Speaker 1>and you got to ask a newspaper columnist. I mean,

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:17.840
<v Speaker 1>they get like thousands of letters, so you get a

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:20.440
<v Speaker 1>one in a thousand chance of any answer whatsoever.

0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:24.480
<v Speaker 2>And this is plan A. You're just gonna date the

0:35:24.480 --> 0:35:29.040
<v Speaker 2>guy who never leaves his house. Armstrong and Getty