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Speaker 1: With the Hall of Famer Tim Kirkchen. I'm his son,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Kirkschen, and welcome to Is this a great game

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Speaker 1: or what?

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Speaker 2: Dad?

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Speaker 3: You're back in the basement studio right, And Jeff, when

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Speaker 3: I walked in the house this time, there was a

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Speaker 3: big box next to the front door, and it is

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Speaker 2: And you asked.

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Speaker 3: Me if I would be willing to install the ceiling

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Speaker 3: fan in your house.

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Speaker 2: Now, I know you were being sarcastic, facetious.

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Speaker 3: I know you were joking, but so there's absolutely zero

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Speaker 3: chance I know how to install a ceiling fan. In fact,

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Speaker 3: later the same night I had to ask you. What

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Speaker 3: did I ask you when I went up to my

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Speaker 3: bedroom here in your house?

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Speaker 2: Oh, how to turn the fan on? This was pretty embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm here to help you, of course, but

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Speaker 1: not being able to turn the fan on is definitely

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Speaker 1: what It was.

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Speaker 2: A little bit complicated.

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Speaker 3: There's a there's a button, there's a remote control for

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Speaker 3: the fan.

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Speaker 2: Necessary. I fouled that up so well. Dad.

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Speaker 1: You know, today before we jump into all of the

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Speaker 1: exciting stuff, and yet we have not yet to hang

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Speaker 1: the ceiling van, which we're going to do after this episode, Dad, I.

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Speaker 2: Have a surprise for you. Oh great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we have decided today to announce our baby's

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Speaker 1: name on the podcast.

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Speaker 2: Great.

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Speaker 1: However, I have some unfortunate news for you. It is

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Speaker 1: not what you think it is. Really we have changed

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Speaker 1: the name again again. So we went from Teddy to say, now,

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Speaker 1: don't say that one because it's we're going to hold

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Speaker 1: that one for a potential third child.

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Speaker 2: But we have come up with a new one.

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Speaker 3: All right, So my grandson will have a different name

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Speaker 3: than the one that I've told.

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Speaker 1: Every Yeah, and born in June. Got a little excited there, so, uh,

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Speaker 1: it's a it's a family name for Emily's side of

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Speaker 1: the family. Actually, so it's Dimitri Young is the middle name,

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Speaker 1: So Dimitri Young.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is Dimitri Young Kirchen is Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Is this a joke or something? Yeah, it is. It's

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Speaker 2: April fool, So we're recording on April first.

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Speaker 1: So I thought I would pull a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a prank on you.

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Speaker 3: Geez, I'm sorry, Jeff, I actually bought that for a moment. Uh,

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Speaker 3: the Dimitri Young story, Jeff, if you have forgotten already

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Speaker 3: the Red One game, at least probably more played Dimitri

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Speaker 3: Chris Stein's played right.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so we had the outfield of Young Frankenstein, which

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Speaker 3: is just only in basis incredible, only in baseball can

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Speaker 3: that happen? Well, thanks, you fooled me, Jeff, I forgot.

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Speaker 3: I forgot it was April Fool's Day.

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Speaker 2: You got me good to meet.

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Speaker 3: I was trying to think how what you were going

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Speaker 3: to call him, you know, Dmitri Kirchen.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that would sound very good. Now, No,

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Speaker 2: it doesn't. It doesn't.

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Speaker 1: We're not announcing the name yet, but the name, you

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Speaker 2: Well that that is really good.

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Speaker 3: All right, So, Jeff, we got some great uh, we

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Speaker 3: got some great feedback.

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Speaker 2: This week from our listeners.

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Speaker 3: So I just want to give a shout out to

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Speaker 3: Kyle Presley who emailed us about He said, what what

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Speaker 3: little tricks do you use when you keep score? Okay,

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Speaker 3: and Kyle, it would take me hours to explain that

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Speaker 3: And the only thing that I do for sure is

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Speaker 3: just to avoid any confusion with anybody, right, But again, Kyle,

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Speaker 3: thank you. There are a million waves to keep score.

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Speaker 3: And I've told this story before, but Bob di Biascio

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Speaker 3: that's not how I would score that play. Let me

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Speaker 3: show you how I would score that play. And she

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Speaker 2: I mean, is that beautiful or not.

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Speaker 1: That's the most beautiful thing ever. I mean, anybody baseball

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Speaker 1: And I remember, Dad, I don't know if you remember this,

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Speaker 1: and we got tickets, and I brought my score book

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Speaker 1: Bringing my getting ready to leave, because what is that,

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Speaker 1: I said, my scorebook? And Dad, listen, I mean this respectfully.

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Speaker 1: You didn't give me a lot of advice when it

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Speaker 2: Okay, we didn't have any advice.

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Speaker 1: But you did tell me in that moment, Jeff, you

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Speaker 2: You can't be keeping score the whole time. And you

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Speaker 2: were right, and I appreciate that advice. Jeff.

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Speaker 3: Speaking of score books, nineteen eighty seven in Milwaukee, I'm

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Speaker 3: and I think I lost my score book in Milwaukee

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Speaker 2: Game and I can't find it. And now I'm in.

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Speaker 3: Full fledged panic because one hundred games into the season,

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Speaker 3: it's it's got every game in it, every game in

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Speaker 2: Your score or your girlfriend, right.

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Speaker 3: So I literally went into a dumpster the next day

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Speaker 3: Well, if it's anywhere, it'll be in this trash bin here,

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Speaker 3: The point is, that's how important a score book is.

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Speaker 3: To a baseball writer, and I'm happy you didn't bring

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Speaker 3: No, I want to give you one more story that

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Speaker 3: John Connolly wrote in with a trivia question. And he's

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Speaker 2: This was torture.

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Speaker 3: But I ended up with Rob nn right, Yeah, who's

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Speaker 3: ninety seven pitching staff, and I actually, after an hour,

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Speaker 3: got it right. Antonio Alfonseika is four syllables in the first.

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Speaker 3: So I sent it back to him and he said,

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Speaker 3: you got it right. That was pretty impressive. Now the

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Speaker 3: only thing that really makes this worthwhile is said, and

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Speaker 3: I hope I don't offend anyone here, including him. Antonio

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Speaker 3: Alfonseka had six fingers on his left hand, six fingers

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Speaker 3: on his right hand, and six toes on both his feet.

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Speaker 3: And it was I met him a bunch of times

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Speaker 3: And he was a major league pitcher and a great guy.

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Speaker 3: That has nothing to do with it, but this is terrible.

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Speaker 3: When he played for the Expos Richard Griffin, the funniest

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Speaker 3: listed six Toe Lescano, who is the real player who

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Speaker 1: Six toes on each foot, so he felt a kindred

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Speaker 1: I like that you made it the Game Changer of

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Speaker 1: Again, thank you to our friends at Game Changer for

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Speaker 2: grilled cheese cook.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you made some really great grilled cheeses

443
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Speaker 1: when I was a kid, but we didn't. You didn't

444
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Speaker 1: need that trick, clearly because she never burned a grilled cheese.

445
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Speaker 1: But wow, Well, we're having hamburgers tonight. Yes, I got

446
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Speaker 1: a case right, So I.

447
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Speaker 3: Am going to put I am a perfect hamburger for me,

448
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,440
Speaker 3: is burger medium well or well done?

449
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Speaker 2: Sorry?

450
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Speaker 3: A slice of raw onion, Swiss cheese and mayonnaise. That's

451
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,760
Speaker 3: the perfect hamburger for me. Now, you don't get no

452
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Speaker 3: other condiment. I look, I can eat anything on a hamburger,

453
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Speaker 3: anything on a hamber asking me for the perfect hamburger

454
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Speaker 3: for me? Swiss cheese, raw onion and manna. So at

455
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Speaker 3: burger mayo.

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Speaker 2: I love that. That's a great matchup right there, all right, dad?

457
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Speaker 3: On the state in baseball history, what do you have?

458
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Speaker 3: Don Sutton was born on this state in nineteen forty five.

459
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Speaker 3: Hall of famer won three hundred and twenty five twenty

460
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Speaker 3: four games in his career and one of the most

461
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 3: durable pitchers ever jeff fourteen of his first fifteen seasons

462
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 3: he made at least thirty one starts in a year.

463
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,800
Speaker 3: And he did that essentially for his entire career. And

464
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 3: people call him a compiler. He was way more than that.

465
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Speaker 3: He died several years ago. Don Sutton was a great pitcher,

466
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Speaker 3: underrated pitcher, three hundred and twenty four wins. Also born

467
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Speaker 3: on the same day, nineteen forty five, Reggie Smith, one

468
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Speaker 3: of the great defensive outfielders, one of the better switch

469
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Speaker 3: hitters ever, tremendously strong, hit some mammoth home runs, and

470
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Speaker 3: in nineteen sixty seven he made one of the I

471
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Speaker 3: think it was SIXTI seven made one of the greatest

472
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Speaker 3: catches ever in Washington while I'm a ten year old

473
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Speaker 3: Washington Senators fan. He went over the left right center

474
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Speaker 3: field fence, caught it and like fell over the fence,

475
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,520
Speaker 3: and it was a really high fence. I'll never forget

476
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,760
Speaker 3: that from Reggie Smith when I was growing up. That

477
00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 3: is epic, and isn't it crazy? I mean that was

478
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Speaker 3: you were ten, So that was eighty nine years ago.

479
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,840
Speaker 3: That's unbelievable that you're able to remember that long ago.

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Speaker 3: All right, thank you for that, Jeff nineteen sixty four.

481
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Speaker 3: Pete Incavillia was born Pekin. Incavillia was a good hitter

482
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Speaker 3: at two hundred and six homers thirty as a rookie, thinking.

483
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Speaker 2: Don't quiz me.

484
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Speaker 1: I know there's a fun fact about it, and I

485
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Speaker 1: can't remember it all right.

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Speaker 3: He broke how many bats in one year? He told

487
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Speaker 3: me this, oh like two hundred or something. Pete Incavillia

488
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Speaker 3: told me he got twelve dozen bats to start the season.

489
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Speaker 2: With the one hundred and forty four and he broke.

490
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Speaker 3: Them all because he used a bat with a barrel

491
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Speaker 3: of the size of a canned hand right, and he

492
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Speaker 3: had the thin handled to the bats because he wanted

493
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Speaker 3: to get as much whip action as much bats speed,

494
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Speaker 3: so he essentially overpowered his own bats. And he told

495
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Speaker 3: me he broke twelve dozen in one year, one hundred

496
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Speaker 3: and forty four bats he went through.

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Speaker 1: And how many bats in his career do you think

498
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Speaker 1: Tony Gwynn broke?

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Speaker 3: Well, I would say there must be a dozen in

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Speaker 3: the twenty years he played, but I bet it's not

501
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Speaker 3: much more than a dozen.

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Speaker 2: Think about that. Yeah, that's how in these twenty years.

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Speaker 2: That's right, right.

504
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Speaker 3: And also on this date, Denny Hawking was born nineteen

505
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Speaker 3: seventy and Denny Hawking is kind of an obscure infielder.

506
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Speaker 3: But in probably my favorite story that I've ever written,

507
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Speaker 3: The Fear of the Ball, Denny Hawking explained the day

508
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,840
Speaker 3: in spring training when Jose kn'tseko on AstroTurf hit a

509
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Speaker 3: one hopper that hit Denny Hawking right in the mouth

510
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Speaker 3: and absolutely blew up his mouth. He said he was

511
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 3: flopping around second base like a fish out of water.

512
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,359
Speaker 3: He was in the dentist chair for two and a

513
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Speaker 3: half hours. And three days later, Jeff, three days later,

514
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 3: with all sorts of work done to his teeth, he

515
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Speaker 3: was out taking ground balls again three days bats And

516
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Speaker 3: I said, Denny, why would you do that? And he said, well,

517
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Speaker 3: you have to get back on the horse after you

518
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Speaker 3: fall off. And the further the longer time you take

519
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Speaker 3: to get in front of a ground ball, the more

520
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Speaker 3: chance to be.

521
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Speaker 2: That you're going to be really uncomfortable.

522
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Speaker 3: So he said, my first game back in spring wasn't

523
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Speaker 3: even a game taking ground balls. Three like three ground

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Speaker 3: balls in in this infield. He took a ball, took

525
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Speaker 3: a bad hop and came right up at his face

526
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Speaker 3: and he caught it, but it was heading right at

527
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Speaker 3: his mouth again. And he said, it took me two

528
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Speaker 3: years to be able to chew gum again. That's how

529
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Speaker 3: bad the damage was to his mouth. And Jeff, I

530
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Speaker 3: tell you this story because I tell you all the

531
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Speaker 3: time baseball is a really dangerous game to play. It

532
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Speaker 3: takes a lot of courage to go out there. And

533
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Speaker 3: I you know, I say all the time, you get

534
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Speaker 3: hit in the head with a pitch, you're never getting

535
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Speaker 3: back in the box. You get hit like he did

536
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Speaker 3: in the mouth with a groundball, You're never looking down

537
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Speaker 3: at a groundball ever again.

538
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Speaker 2: Now you're not.

539
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Speaker 3: And he did, and he was out there three days later.

540
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Speaker 3: And he even wore in his two week rehab assignment,

541
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Speaker 3: he wore a little bar across his face like a

542
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Speaker 3: football player with more and would wear. And he said,

543
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Speaker 3: I forget it. I'm not doing this, and he threw

544
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Speaker 3: it away and returned and played several more years. Gosh,

545
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 3: the courage it takes to play baseball is a.

546
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Speaker 2: Very underrated part. And the last thing Jeff.

547
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Speaker 3: On this date, in two thousand and one, Ichiro Suzuki

548
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 3: got his first major league hit. He came in his

549
00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,479
Speaker 3: first major league game. He was zero for three, then

550
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Speaker 3: he got a hit, and then he got another hit,

551
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Speaker 3: so he's two for five after the first game. The

552
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Speaker 3: next game he goes oh for four, so now he's

553
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Speaker 3: hitting two twenty two. The game after that, he gets

554
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 3: two to four again, and that put his career average

555
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Speaker 3: only three games in over three hundred, and at no

556
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Speaker 3: point the rest of that season or the rest of

557
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Speaker 3: his career did his career batting average sink below three hundred.

558
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Speaker 3: Does that interesting to you? Yeah, surprising to you.

559
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Speaker 1: I've seen that fact across the baseball interwebs, and I

560
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Speaker 1: gotta say it blows my mind to a point where

561
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Speaker 1: I looked it up. I needed to confirm it because

562
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: you know, you get memes and you get stuff on

563
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: Twitter or Facebook that you you don't know whether you

564
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: can believe it or not, and that sounded so unbelievable.

565
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: I had to fact check it before I talked about

566
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Speaker 1: it on the podcast and embarrass myself.

567
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's true, true, and I triple checked it.

568
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Speaker 1: Yes, I heard you're going to do a team Tim

569
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Speaker 1: that has something to do with Eachiro Suzuki.

570
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Speaker 2: What do you got right?

571
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Speaker 3: Well, since he made history on this date in two

572
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 3: thousand and one, I thought I would come up with

573
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Speaker 3: the all Japanese team. These are guys who born in Japan,

574
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Speaker 3: played in Japan, came over here. So Kenji Jojima is

575
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:09,560
Speaker 3: our catcher. I really could not find a first baseman,

576
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 3: which I was surprised, so I'm using Munataka or Kami,

577
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 3: who just signed with the White Sox for this year

578
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,199
Speaker 3: and hit three homers in his first three games. He

579
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:21,240
Speaker 3: was signed basically to play third base, but he's already

580
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 3: played first base, so I'm going to use him. Kas

581
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Speaker 3: Matsui is our second baseman. Kazuma Okamoto, who now is

582
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Speaker 3: a rookie for the Blue Jays, he's our third baseman.

583
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Speaker 3: Toyoshi Nishioka is our shortstop. I'm going to tell you

584
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Speaker 3: a story about him in a minute. Each year, Roll,

585
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 3: of course is one outfielder, Hideki Matsui, great New York Yankee,

586
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 3: amazing right. And Saya Suzuki is still with the Cubs

587
00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 3: and a really good hitter.

588
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 2: He's our third outfielder. You Darvish.

589
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 3: Of course, Hideo Nomo are my two starting pitchers. There

590
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 3: are many more, and Casazaki is our closer. He was

591
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 3: a really good closer in his day and of course

592
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 3: soon to be well the best of them all. Show

593
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 3: hey O Tani who we could use as a DH

594
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: or a pitcher or.

595
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: Any way that we want.

596
00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 3: But so Nishioka joins the Twins years ago, and boy,

597
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 3: I hope no one gets offended by this. But he's

598
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 3: in spring training and the Twins have a very, very

599
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 3: playful team and they're they're a really fun group. So

600
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 3: he's a newcomer to the team. So the teammates go

601
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 3: to Dinard's fan, who might be the most popular guy

602
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 3: on the team, one of the best guys I've ever met,

603
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 3: And they told Dinard's fan it's like the first day

604
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 3: of spring training. You have to go meet your new teammate. Okay,

605
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 3: you got to go up and be respectful and welcome

606
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 3: him to the team. So they point him over to

607
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 3: Ishioka's locker. But it's really not Nishioka that he's going

608
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:55,160
Speaker 3: up to now, Okay, it's another guy who looks Asian,

609
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 3: And again, I hope I don't offend anybody else.

610
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 2: He doesn't know who it doesn't know who it is.

611
00:29:59,800 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: If if he knows the guy's last name is of

612
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: Japanese descent, he's gonna assume a guy who looks Japanese

613
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Speaker 1: might be him.

614
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 3: Right, So the guy he went to talk to was

615
00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 3: named Ray Chang, So Denard Span ghost Ray Chang puts

616
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 3: out his hands and goes, it is very nice to

617
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Speaker 3: meet you. My name is Denard Span. Welcome to our team.

618
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Speaker 3: Do you speak any English?

619
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Speaker 2: And Ray Chang.

620
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Speaker 3: Goes, of course I knew I was born in Kansas City.

621
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Speaker 3: So Nishioka and Span and Ray Chang and the entire

622
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Speaker 3: clubhouse just absolutely erupted in laughter.

623
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Speaker 2: And I hope no one is offended by this. This

624
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: was a team thing.

625
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 3: Nobody took it the wrong way, and it was a

626
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 3: great way for everyone to get to know each other.

627
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 3: Dinard Span of course thought it was the funniest thing

628
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 3: ever because he screwed it up. Nishioka was howling, of course,

629
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Speaker 3: you know exactly, because everyone was in on it except

630
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Speaker 3: for Denard Span.

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Speaker 2: So that's my all Japanese team, Jeff, that's absolutely incredible.

632
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Speaker 1: All right, dad, So we've been counting down the best

633
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: players at every single letter in the alphabet. I say

634
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 1: that like we've been doing it a long time. Right,

635
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: We're only one week, kid. We did our a's batter

636
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: and pitcher, right, and last last week was Hank Aaron

637
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: and Grover Cleveland Alexander clearly last name, right.

638
00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: So now we go.

639
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Speaker 1: Into the bes and I'm gonna I'm gonna do be

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Speaker 1: pitcher first. Can you give us your be pitcher? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm going with Burt bly eleven over double B.

642
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: Right, it doesn't matter, but double.

643
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Speaker 3: B Mordecai, three finger Brown, Jim Jim Bunning also in

644
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 3: the running, But I'm going with Burt Bly eleven. He

645
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 3: went Hall of Famer. Of course, two hundred and eighty

646
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 3: seven wins, has the fifth most strikeouts of all time.

647
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 3: He's got the ninth most shutouts. He had sixty shutouts,

648
00:31:56,920 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 3: one fewer than Nolan Ryan, one fewer than Tom Seaver,

649
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:06,520
Speaker 3: more than Bob Gibson, and exactly as many as Greg

650
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 3: Mannox and Tom Glavin had combined sixty shutouts. So I

651
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 3: picked Bert Blyi Levin as the greatest pitcher whose last

652
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 3: name starts with Bee of all time.

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Speaker 2: Am I okay with that? I think it's great. I

654
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 2: think it's a great choice.

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Speaker 3: Now we go to batter b Okay, Now this wasn't

656
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Speaker 3: so easy for some people.

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00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: It's simple.

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Speaker 3: I don't find it simple at all, because we've we've

659
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Speaker 3: got Jeff Bagwell, we've got Jogi Barrow, we've got Johnny Bench,

660
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Speaker 3: the greatest catcher ever.

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Speaker 2: But I took Barry Bonds.

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Speaker 3: And people are gonna say, how can you take somebody

663
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: who clearly did something that he probably shouldn't.

664
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Speaker 2: Have done and all that stuff.

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Speaker 3: But I'm gonna just for a moment forget that, because

666
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Speaker 3: Barry Bonds is the greatest hitter I've ever seen. And

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00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 3: after Babe Ruth and Ted Williams. I think he's the

668
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Speaker 3: greatest hitter ever. Now you can disagree on all of this,

669
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Speaker 3: given you know, given what we all know.

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Speaker 1: Circumstances, right, move past it for a minute and tell

671
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Speaker 1: us more.

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Speaker 3: Well, I just think Barry Bonce was like no hitter

673
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 3: I've ever seen, and he was a great, great, great

674
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Speaker 3: player before whatever he did. And we're not gonna disguise

675
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 3: whatever he did. We'll just leave it at that. So

676
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 3: this is one of those subjective things that it's up

677
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Speaker 3: to you at home.

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00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,440
Speaker 2: This is my list. These are the two greatest bees

679
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 2: for me. If you have.

680
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Speaker 3: Somebody else, if you pick Johnny Bench, you think I'm

681
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 3: gonna argue with you on that, of course not.

682
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 2: But I had to pick someone.

683
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 3: So I'm taking Barry Bonds because I repeat, he's the

684
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 3: greatest hitter I've ever seen. And I could give you

685
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Speaker 3: a hundred examples of things that I saw, statistical lines

686
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Speaker 3: that make him one of the three greatest hitters of

687
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Speaker 3: all time. Now, Jeff, you're a young guy. You didn't

688
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 3: You didn't cover this like I did. You didn't really

689
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 3: live through this like I did.

690
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: I grew up.

691
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: Are you okay with this, everybody remembers what the game

692
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: of baseball was like when they were ten years old,

693
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Speaker 1: right when they were seven to ten. I feel like

694
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: is some real impactful up through like fourteen, and that

695
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,440
Speaker 1: was the steroid era for me. I remember Barry Bonds

696
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 1: being the biggest thing in the world. I remember his

697
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: chase to beat Babe Ruth and then to beat Hank Aaron.

698
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,160
Speaker 1: I remember all of these days, and to me, Dad

699
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,799
Speaker 1: and I've talked about this in the Hall of Fame. Eventually,

700
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 1: when the writers turn over a little bit and my

701
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: generation starts being a majority of the writers. By the way,

702
00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 1: our friend Paul Mancano, you know, my good friend of mine,

703
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 1: works for the Baltimore Banner.

704
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 2: He's a great guy. He's now part of the Writers' Association.

705
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,800
Speaker 2: So naturally I asked him, what's your number? Yours is, Dad,

706
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:41,879
Speaker 2: twenty two. Yours is twenty two.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get it wrong, but it's like five hundred

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00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: and thirty eight or.

709
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 3: Something, you know, Jeff, I started out at number eight

710
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 3: hundred and eighty nine and now I'm down to twenty

711
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 3: two on the Baseball Writer's List, which I'm frankly very

712
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 3: proud of. It just means I've had the greatest job

713
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 3: ever for the last forty five years.

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Speaker 2: I love your picks for the bees.

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Speaker 1: I love that it's and if anybody has a problem

716
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 1: with it, they can call the BBB, the Better Business

717
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: Bureau and complain about is this a great game or

718
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:07,399
Speaker 1: what if?

719
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 3: That's what you're at TVWAAF But Jeff, I say this

720
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 3: almost every episode.

721
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 2: Okay, this is my list. This is not the correct rice,

722
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 2: this is not the right list. This is my list.

723
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: We're interested in your list, and if you have a

724
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:23,080
Speaker 3: problem with or if you have a debate, if you

725
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 3: have a difference, that's great. That's the beauty of baseball.

726
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 3: We can debate these all day long. And this is

727
00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,839
Speaker 3: a debatable point, there's no doubt about that.

728
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 1: Well, Dad, we went on Instagram at great game or

729
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 1: what You can go on there right now, give us

730
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: a follow. Trying to grow the social media. You actually

731
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 1: see constant videos of great stuff we're doing here and

732
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 1: we're in person today, which is awesome. And I asked

733
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 1: for some suggestions for a new segment called the Wheel

734
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: Wheel Oh kerkche.

735
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: Why produce an intro when I can do it myself?

736
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 3: This is so bad, Jeff I can't believe I Yes,

737
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 3: we do this, and I can't believe you bought this thing?

738
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Amazon, twelve bucks, and it looks like it looks

739
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:09,360
Speaker 1: like I'm running a side show at a circus.

740
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 2: Come buy some crap, right right, right, all right? So

741
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: here there's an eraser. Everything on the side, from the

742
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 2: eraser to the okay, bimble. Right. So what we're gonna

743
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 2: do is we're gonna say more. People got that joke,

744
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 2: but nobody got it the jerk, all right.

745
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: So what we did is we asked for suggestions for

746
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 1: the wheel of Kirkshon things to go on.

747
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 3: Wish be clear, Jeff. These came directly from our listeners.

748
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,879
Speaker 3: Tell us something about this. These are there. We did

749
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 3: not pick these. They picked it for us.

750
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 2: All right.

751
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:38,719
Speaker 1: So Dad, I'm gonna have you read it. I wrote

752
00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: these down and you're gonna read which one comes up?

753
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,840
Speaker 2: Here? We go, okay, all right, we're spinning the wheel.

754
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 2: What do you got? Okay? Broadcasters? All right, all right?

755
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 2: Play by play.

756
00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 3: Broadcasters are some of my favorite people in the world.

757
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:53,959
Speaker 2: I think it's fair.

758
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: They come into your house every night, they become a

759
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 3: member of the family. And I'm not exaggerating this. I

760
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 3: remember when I was a kid. Dan Daniels and John

761
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 3: McClain would come into my Transister radio when I was.

762
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 2: A little kid.

763
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: They were the greatest people in the world because they

764
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 3: were telling me about the game. I think it's fairly

765
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 3: fair to say that Vince Gully's the greatest one of

766
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 3: all time.

767
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:20,040
Speaker 2: Jack Buck right there, Ernie Harwell right there, and Ernie.

768
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 3: Ernie just personified what baseball broadcasters are all about. So

769
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 3: he did the Tigers games among other teams.

770
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 2: For years and years.

771
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 3: So I asked, Ernie, the most gentleman of all time,

772
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 3: what are you going to take from Tiger Stadium? You

773
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:39,319
Speaker 3: know is closing, as like memorabilia from the stadium. So

774
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 3: he looks at me without hesitation, and he said, I'm

775
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 3: going to take the urinoal from the visiting clubhouse. And

776
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 3: I went what he goes?

777
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 2: I said, Ernie, why why would you pick that?

778
00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 3: And he said, well, it's very personal and every great

779
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 3: player in the history of the American League has used it.

780
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,719
Speaker 3: So he said, I'm gonna get it all cleaned up

781
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 3: and make it a planter for my wife. And that's

782
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 3: exactly what he did. And out on his backboard he

783
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 3: had the urinal from Tiger Stadium with plants planted in

784
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 3: it is that the greatest baseball story you can possibly hear.

785
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 3: This is what baseball players do and announcers do to

786
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 3: remember something as important as the great Tiger Stadium.

787
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,239
Speaker 2: I have no comment, truly, it is.

788
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 1: It is rare that I'm at a loss for words,

789
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,200
Speaker 1: but I'm just gonna leave it there. All I know

790
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,479
Speaker 1: is if I gifted my wife a urinal, I would

791
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:39,320
Speaker 1: no longer have a wife or a urinal.

792
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:41,279
Speaker 2: All right, here we go.

793
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 3: All right, We're gonna try one, maybe two more, and

794
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 3: here you go.

795
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 2: You gotta tell me what it lands on.

796
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 3: All right, this comes up to double play combinations.

797
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, one of our listeners wants to know some

798
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 1: of your favorite double play second basement joy.

799
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,879
Speaker 3: All right, look it's again. This is way too subjective,

800
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 3: but the greatest one I think I've ever seen that

801
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 3: I've ever seen.

802
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 2: Is Omar vs.

803
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: SkELL and Roberto Alomar for the Cleveland Indians at the time.

804
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 3: The scale for me is the second greatest defensive shortstop

805
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 3: I've ever seen, after Ozzie Smith and Roberto Alomar is

806
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 3: a top five defensive second basement of all time, and

807
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 3: maybe the best one that I've ever really seen. I

808
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 3: didn't see Bill Mazerowski, so I think I'm gonna go

809
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:28,720
Speaker 3: with those two.

810
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 2: But I think statistically you could.

811
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 3: Go to Gene Alley and Bill Mazeroski in the sixties

812
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 3: with the Pirates, and you won't be wrong, because nobody

813
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 3: set the records at second base on double plays more

814
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: than Bill Mazerowski holds all the records.

815
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 2: And Gene Alley was a brilliant shortstop.

816
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 3: I mean, there have been a bunch of others, you know,

817
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 3: Billy Ripkin and Cal Ripkin were really good.

818
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 2: And of course I've told you two other of my favorites.

819
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 3: They're certainly not in the con and one of them

820
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 3: isn't in the conversation. But Dvance Law used to play

821
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: shortstop for the White Sox, and the second basement was who, Jeff,

822
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 3: do you remember Order?

823
00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 2: Or George Orda.

824
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 3: So the double play combination with Law and Order wid

825
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 3: you gotta love. And I've also told you this Bobby

826
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 3: Wine great defensive shortstop, and his second basement for the

827
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 3: Phillies in the sixties for at least a while was

828
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 3: Cookie Rojas.

829
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: So those were known as the days of Wine. And

830
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 2: Rojas so so good.

831
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 3: Those are honorable mention, but I'll go with either Gen Naley,

832
00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:34,840
Speaker 3: Bill Mazerowski or Omarvis Skeal Roberto Alomar.

833
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: Those are ones you can't lose, Jeff.

834
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 3: That is the Wheel of Kirkchen, and we're gonna do

835
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 3: this every week as just another way to just tell

836
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:47,120
Speaker 3: everyone how much we love the game, no matter how

837
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 3: corny or hockey or stupid it might look.

838
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: Let's do the outro.

839
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: Thanks for watching the Wheel, Wheel off of Kirktchen.

840
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 2: All right, there we go.

841
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:04,279
Speaker 1: All right, Dad, let's wrap up today's episode with a

842
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,719
Speaker 1: good old three Cards in the Bathroom. So, Dan, even

843
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 1: though you're with me here in our new studio in

844
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: the basement, still working on improvements here, but you look

845
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: great and all your books here on the set.

846
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 2: Watch us on YouTube.

847
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 1: You can subscribe there to watch every episode you did.

848
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: Bring Cards up from the bathroom in your basement.

849
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we start with Logan Webb of the Giants,

850
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 3: who's one of the best pictures in the game picture

851
00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 3: for the United States and the WBC. Yeah, he's got

852
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 3: a great arm as great stuff, strikeout picture everything else. Now,

853
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 3: one of our listeners, I forget his name. I'm embarrassed

854
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 3: to say, wrote in that he looks exactly like actor

855
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 3: Will Poulter.

856
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 2: Do you know who that is?

857
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: So I know Will Poulter and and and also he

858
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: looks like Jesse Plemmons.

859
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 2: I know. Oh that's who it is, right.

860
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 3: I was trying to do this by memory and I

861
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 3: thought Lemons. Yeah, I thought it was Will Poulter. Was

862
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 3: the kid in were the Millers? Yes, one of them,

863
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,240
Speaker 3: and they do look similar. But it's Jesse Plemmons without

864
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 3: a doubt. All right, you corrected me. Thank you, Jeff,

865
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,600
Speaker 3: because I wasn't sure which one the guy had sent

866
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 3: in and I forgot the guy's name and I went

867
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:13,120
Speaker 3: through all of our emails and I couldn't find it

868
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,200
Speaker 3: because I'm so bad with technology.

869
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: Jesse Plemmon has been in a lot of great stuff,

870
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:20,240
Speaker 1: breaking bad. He was also in Friday Night Lights way

871
00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 1: back when he was He wasn't a kid at the

872
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: time that he's I looked at the two together.

873
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 2: It's true. They look a lot, a lot bad. Every

874
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 2: time I watch him pitch.

875
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: I can't help but thinking, man, you know, Logan Webb

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Speaker 1: has to go through something to get a biography, and

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Speaker 1: Jesse Plemmons is going to star in it, in that

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00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 1: in that BioPen right.

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00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 3: Well, thank you for the correction, Jeff. I was really

880
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 3: questioned myself on this.

881
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 2: This is where I shine, right, there's I.

882
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 3: Got your pop culture music, everything other than baseball, basketball, right,

883
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 3: and sitcoms from the sixties.

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00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 2: You got me all right. Number two is Sean Murphy

885
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 2: of the Braves.

886
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 3: Really good hitting catcher and a very good defensive catcher.

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00:42:58,160 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 2: It's been hurting an awful lot in the.

888
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 3: Last years, but I still get a kick out of this, Jeff.

889
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,680
Speaker 3: That he went he had the highest batting average for

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00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 3: a season in the second highest batting average in the

891
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 3: history of his high school.

892
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 2: Wow, Ohio. I'm pretty sure.

893
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 3: And the only one with a higher batting average in

894
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:21,239
Speaker 3: a season from his high school is Kirk Herbstreet, who

895
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,960
Speaker 3: was a football player played baseball.

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00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:24,400
Speaker 2: In Saint Ohio.

897
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 3: Saint Ohio, and I found that really interesting. Just another reminder, Jeff,

898
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 3: that multi sport athletes in high school are everywhere. And

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00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 3: Kirk Herbstreet, our pal from ESPN, one of the great

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00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: college football analysts of all time, had a higher batting

901
00:43:42,160 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 3: average in one season than Sean Murphy.

902
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 2: Wow.

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00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 3: I asked Sean Murphy about that, and he just kind

904
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 3: of shook his head like this, and then he jokingly

905
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 3: said something, but I have a better arm than Kirk

906
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 3: hurk Street, and Kirk Kirkstreet was a quarterback.

907
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 2: He loved it. Okay.

908
00:43:56,440 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 3: So Number three Jeff is Bernie Williams one of my

909
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,680
Speaker 3: favorite players, one of the great Yankees ever.

910
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 2: You know, gets lost in the.

911
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 3: Shovel with Ruth Gerrig and Jeter and everybody else, but

912
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 3: he was a really good Yankee nineties two thousand and

913
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 3: one of his share rings and everything else. Really good

914
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 3: center fielder, but he was. He is also a brilliant musician.

915
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 3: He can really sing, he can really play the guitar.

916
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,479
Speaker 3: So he was on one of our games at spring

917
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 3: training like five years ago. Kevin Brown and I did

918
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 3: the game and Bertie Williams sat in the booth with us,

919
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 3: and I just casually asked him, who's the greatest performer,

920
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 3: greatest singer, most famous person you've ever played with? And

921
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 3: he said, well, I played with Bruce Springsteen, so he

922
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 3: was part sat a night with Bruce Springsteen and he's

923
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 3: playing in the Springstreen band.

924
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,920
Speaker 2: So so I just casually looked at him.

925
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 3: So I said, so you played for the boss and

926
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 3: you played with the boss, right, because George Steinbrenner, I

927
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 3: shouldn't have to explain this. But George Steinbreder was no

928
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 3: as the Boss when Bernie played there, And correct me

929
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 3: if I'm wrong, But Bruce Springsteen is known as the Boss,

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00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,280
Speaker 3: so he played for the Boss.

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Speaker 2: And with the Boss. Correct.

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Speaker 1: Excellent, and Dad, this card is actually pretty incredible because

933
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: this is a Tops card from nineteen ninety so this

934
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: card itself is older than I am. This is not

935
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 1: a reproduction, That's what I was thinking it was. So

936
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: his most recent, like you know, they give all of

937
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 1: his batting records, was Albany in nineteen eighty nine. It

938
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Speaker 1: goes all the way back to nineteen eighty six with

939
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: the Sarasota Yankees. But this is his I mean, his

940
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: rookie card. Yeah, that's so crazy because it has his

941
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: minor league totals and that's really really special.

942
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 2: Wow. Right, check if there's any value here, we might

943
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 2: be able to retire. Right.

944
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 3: So that's Bernie Williams for you, and that's Street Cards

945
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Speaker 3: in the bathroom Jeb.

946
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 2: Well, Dad, you've talked a lot about baseball.

947
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: You've talked about some Hall of famers and Boyle boy

948
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Speaker 1: do we have a treat next week for everybody. So

949
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: we're three days a week once again. So we're going

950
00:46:01,360 --> 00:46:04,920
Speaker 1: to have Jim Palmer Hall of Famer Jim Palmer on

951
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: the podcast on Tuesday, will recap all the weekends games

952
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: on Monday, and then another.

953
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Speaker 2: Episode for you on Thursday.

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Speaker 3: Right, And we had Jim Palmer on the podcast a

955
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Speaker 3: couple of years ago. Jim Palmer is now eighty years

956
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 3: old and he is still broadcasting a bunch of games

957
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 3: per year for the Orioles. He's still one of my

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00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 3: favorite guys to ever be around. I'll call him Cakes

959
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 3: during the interview because that's his nickname and i can't

960
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 3: call him Jim anymore because I've been calling him Cakes

961
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Speaker 3: for forty five years. So he will light it up

962
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 3: because he's Jim Palmer and he's all Famer and I

963
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 3: can't wait for him.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for listening. It's always thanks for

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Speaker 2: being a part of our family.