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Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everybody, Welcome to another

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Speaker 1: episode of The Buck Sexton Show. Very pleased to have

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Speaker 1: joining us for this deep dive into all things that

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Speaker 1: matter our friend Carol Markowitz of The New York Post,

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Speaker 1: also co author of a fantastic book that all of

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Speaker 1: you should be checking out, Stolen Youth, and a refugee

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Speaker 1: from New York City to Florida, she helped lead the charge. Carol,

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Speaker 1: great to have you on the program. Hi, Block, thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for having me. I feel like we could

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Speaker 1: start with your book, if that's all right, just because

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Speaker 1: right now there are some areas where I want to

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Speaker 1: get conservatives to be paying a lot more attention and

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Speaker 1: the indoctrination. I'm doing research right now that's going to

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Speaker 1: be comparing the brainwashing of totalitarian regimes to what democrats

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Speaker 1: looking very closely at parallels and things. But that's the

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Speaker 1: first chapter of the book. Tell me about Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: it compares totalitarian regimes to what the left is doing

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Speaker 1: in America. Right now, and it particularly compares where the

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Speaker 1: totalitarian regimes of the past have always tried to sever

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Speaker 1: the connection between parent and child in order to get

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Speaker 1: of removed from the whole process. As you know, I

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Speaker 1: was born in the Soviet Union. This is really personal

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Speaker 1: family that I've heard about my whole life that that

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Speaker 1: York Times. It was a New York Times sort of

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Speaker 1: throwback to their assessments back in the early eighties of

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Speaker 1: universal childcare in the Soviet Union. And then there were

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Speaker 1: So they just plopped all the kids in to train

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Speaker 1: them that this horrific system that they were all in

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Speaker 1: really poorly functioning widgets all day at the factory. So

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Speaker 1: My parents are always like, I'd love to see any

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Speaker 1: It's also the this isn't happening, it's good that this

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Speaker 1: And Kamala Harris was a part of it. I mean,

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Speaker 1: What they did was horrific beyond words. I also think

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Speaker 1: a COVID chapter in the book, and you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 1: And there were moments like, if Donald Trump wants schools

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Speaker 1: Randy Winegarden perfect example, Does she actually believe it when

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Speaker 1: all just a con a lie, an abuse, propaganda meant

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Speaker 1: She's sort of George Costanza. A lie is not a

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Speaker 1: They would have just not had an example to look

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Speaker 1: why she said, because it looks like Zelenski is walking

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Speaker 1: a Zelenski thing going. But oh, come on, that's pretty close.

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Speaker 1: the the intricacies of the accent. Um. I guess my

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Speaker 1: But yeah, now if you wear an olive like drab

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Speaker 1: T shirt anywhere, um, you you're apparently channeling channeling Zelenski. Okay,

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Speaker 1: so the CNN the CNN effect. Um. Also, wait before

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Speaker 1: It's I do think it's like a mental illness aunt

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Speaker 1: of mental illness, parton can't speak. There's some problem. Yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: I think they were deeply damaged by Donald Trump winning.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you were in New York the day after

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Speaker 1: he won the election in twenty sixteen, right. Do you

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Speaker 1: remember anything about that day? Oh? Yeah, the day it

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Speaker 1: was there. There were two days I was in New

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Speaker 1: York City that reminded me of the day after Hurricane

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Speaker 1: Sandy hit and Donald Trump's election. Felt. I wasn't there

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Speaker 1: for nine to eleven. I was in college. But the

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Speaker 1: day after Hurricane Sandy and the day after Trump won,

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Speaker 1: the field, the energy on the streets exactly the same.

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Speaker 1: Just shock shock. It was a rainy day. People were

436
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Speaker 1: walking around as if like a meteor had hit and

437
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Speaker 1: it was Donald Trump's fault. It was really just amazing

438
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Speaker 1: to watch it. It was like their lives had ended.

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Speaker 1: And at the time, I really not that I didn't

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Speaker 1: want Trump to win. I preferred him over Hillary Clinton,

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Speaker 1: but I really didn't like him, and I thought that

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Speaker 1: he was going to be a terrible president. And I

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Speaker 1: just you know, but I was like, all right, well,

444
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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, on, what are you gonna do? That's you know,

445
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Speaker 1: that's good whatever. And people were just stunned, and I

446
00:23:18,977 --> 00:23:21,017
Speaker 1: don't think that they ever got over it. I think

447
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Speaker 1: that they just were traumatized by it. They expected to

448
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Speaker 1: win in such a way that that shock when you

449
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Speaker 1: don't win something that you thought you were going to win.

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Speaker 1: It didn't go away. They it lasted years for them.

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Speaker 1: It's interesting that you call it the CNN effect because

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Speaker 1: I feel like CNN has you mentioned that you can't

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Speaker 1: talk to liberals anymore, and then it's like, you know,

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Speaker 1: but CNN used to have shows where liberals and conservatives

455
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Speaker 1: talk to each other, right, and they can't do that. Yeah, yeah,

456
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Speaker 1: but they can't do that anymore, partially because of wokeness.

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Speaker 1: Wokeness says you cannot engage conservatives in honest conversation, and

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Speaker 1: that's also what they're doing. They're shutting down the honest

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Speaker 1: conversation that you're saying, but Trump, but Trump, And that

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Speaker 1: makes us finding common grounds so much harder because they

461
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Speaker 1: only have this one thing that they go to and

462
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Speaker 1: you end up having to defend Trump and everything he's

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Speaker 1: ever done. Yeah. I think that it has become a

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Speaker 1: it is a form of a psychosis. Uh, it's some

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Speaker 1: there's something about the circuitry of liberal brains now where

466
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Speaker 1: it look. It's obviously in the case with everybody, but

467
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Speaker 1: it's enough of a situation, or it's common enough that

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Speaker 1: I think it is a dominant I think it is

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Speaker 1: the majority of the Democrats that I try to engage

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Speaker 1: within any capacity. Now, if I say, hey, you know,

471
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Speaker 1: maybe maybe we shouldn't be teaching queer theory in an

472
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Speaker 1: African American studies program in Florida, which you know, that

473
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Speaker 1: just came up and they ended up reverting and not

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Speaker 1: having that in the curriculum, people will say to me, oh,

475
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Speaker 1: so you know, you just think that like what Trump

476
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Speaker 1: says about CRT and like where are we doing? Like, well,

477
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Speaker 1: how do we? And And that's why I get worried, Carol,

478
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Speaker 1: because when you see, you know, mass movements like bankruptcy,

479
00:25:05,377 --> 00:25:08,017
Speaker 1: like so many things, it happened suddenly, it happened slowly,

480
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Speaker 1: then suddenly right it's it's grows over time. And I've

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Speaker 1: seen a mass movement inside of America where people who

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Speaker 1: think of themselves as very discerning, very intelligent, and very

483
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Speaker 1: good people actually who are who are leftists, who are democrats, liberals, progressives,

484
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Speaker 1: whatever they want to call themselves. I call them commies.

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Speaker 1: And I don't mean that, you know, in a nice way,

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Speaker 1: but they will go along with things now that it's

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Speaker 1: not possible for a human being who is capable of

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Speaker 1: independent thought to go along with And this this has

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Speaker 1: become commonplace. Yeah, you're absolutely right. And are you talking

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Speaker 1: about people like in on Twitter or are these people

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Speaker 1: in your everyday life? Both? Both? Yeah, because I find

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Speaker 1: that the people in my everyday life, even the people

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Speaker 1: on the left, are way more troubled by where the

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Speaker 1: left is going, even if they are themselves pretty far left,

495
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Speaker 1: even if really they are, there are so many ways

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Speaker 1: that they are on the left. And then suddenly there

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Speaker 1: are a woman's study degree. What does it really mean

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Speaker 1: when we don't know what a woman is right and

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Speaker 1: and they're challenged by it. They don't know how to

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Speaker 1: handle it, they don't know what to say, and they

501
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Speaker 1: don't have the easy line that the somebody online you know,

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Speaker 1: on the internet has, where like everyone who doesn't agree

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Speaker 1: with them as a turf, you know, right, you know, intellectually,

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Speaker 1: I do think it's interesting that it's not a problem

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Speaker 1: for a person who is of the right probably speaking

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Speaker 1: to break with the right on some ague. Yeah whatever,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know, score room, I don't I don't care. Oh,

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Speaker 1: the Republican Party says, you know, I don't care. I

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Speaker 1: think this. I think they're wrong. On the following. Every

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Speaker 1: single conservative I know has a number of issues where

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Speaker 1: you know, they break with the base or they don't

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Speaker 1: like you know, whether it's they don't like the you know,

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Speaker 1: globalist Paul Ryan Republicans, or they do and you know whatever,

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Speaker 1: there are these areas where they'll just have this, have

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Speaker 1: this separation. And I do think though that the left

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Speaker 1: very much like a cult or a totalitary in a

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Speaker 1: totalitarian state. There's constant fear of saying the imperfect thing

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Speaker 1: that will get them in trouble with their own side.

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Speaker 1: Right and on generations, by the way, that's more prominent,

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Speaker 1: I think than anywhere else. Well, the whole thing is

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Speaker 1: with cancel culture is that a lot of it was

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Speaker 1: left on left. It wasn't necessarily the left coming for conservatives.

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Speaker 1: I mean it is in some ways like you have

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Speaker 1: to bake the cake stories, you know, out of Colorado.

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Speaker 1: So they do target sort of you know, non leftists,

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Speaker 1: but for the most part it was like you wrote

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Speaker 1: something that I don't like, and if you're on the left,

528
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Speaker 1: you end up apologizing. And then it's like when you

529
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Speaker 1: get into that spiral where it's never going to be enough.

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Speaker 1: Remember that book Dirt. This This woman wrote this book

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Speaker 1: that was a really celebrated American Dirt, very celebrated book,

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Speaker 1: but then it turned out that she wrote about Mexican

533
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Speaker 1: drug smugglers and she herself was not a Mexican, so

534
00:27:58,897 --> 00:28:01,097
Speaker 1: she had to apologize, and I think they ended up

535
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Speaker 1: actually not having any public relations for the book at all,

536
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Speaker 1: because you know, she had obviously committed the worst sin

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Speaker 1: in history writing about a culture that it was not

538
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Speaker 1: her own. But how a conservative writer handled that, They'd

539
00:28:12,777 --> 00:28:15,497
Speaker 1: be like, okay, and I so what, Yeah, I did

540
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Speaker 1: that and I'll do it again. And we don't really

541
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Speaker 1: care as much about their targeting. But once you bend

542
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Speaker 1: to them at all, you're going to keep bending all

543
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Speaker 1: the time. That's what we've seen up to this point.

544
00:28:28,057 --> 00:28:34,217
Speaker 1: And obviously the progression is always request for tolerance and

545
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Speaker 1: then push for uh, you know, a push for acceptance

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Speaker 1: and then demands for celebration. Right, That's it just it

547
00:28:43,497 --> 00:28:47,897
Speaker 1: always is on the same progression progressives, where at first

548
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Speaker 1: it's just let's just all be cool to each other,

549
00:28:49,617 --> 00:28:51,057
Speaker 1: right and that. And that's one of the things that

550
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Speaker 1: frustrates me so much about the approach of the left

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Speaker 1: is that I think on pronouns, for example, and people

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Speaker 1: say this is small. It is not small. The same way,

553
00:29:01,017 --> 00:29:04,777
Speaker 1: it's not small to switch from illegal alien to illegal

554
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Speaker 1: immigrant to undocumented because you know, now at this point

555
00:29:08,337 --> 00:29:09,817
Speaker 1: it's like, well, let's just give them documents, like what

556
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Speaker 1: do we need immigration for? Right? I mean, the whole

557
00:29:12,217 --> 00:29:17,097
Speaker 1: process is undermined by the language itself, the concession of

558
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Speaker 1: I'm going to use someone's preferred pronouns. They have used

559
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Speaker 1: the desire of people on the right to be polite

560
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Speaker 1: and to be conned in order to get compliance on

561
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Speaker 1: that issue, for example, and then people get very confused

562
00:29:30,817 --> 00:29:32,697
Speaker 1: because they go, hold on a second, why does it

563
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Speaker 1: feel like we're losing this argument? On the other side

564
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Speaker 1: is crazy because you're conceding the argument. I mean, every

565
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Speaker 1: time I see a story about a transgender individual in

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Speaker 1: the Daily Mail and even sometimes on Foxnews dot Com,

567
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Speaker 1: it referred to what he is a she. So it's

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Speaker 1: interesting because I think my feeling would have been, in general,

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Speaker 1: use somebody's preferred pronoun But obviously I'm not using they,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not using anything invented, and I'm not using

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Speaker 1: any of the new ones. But You're absolutely right where

572
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Speaker 1: it's never enough. It's never like okay, I'll use your

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Speaker 1: preferred pronoun Well, now I need you to use the

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Speaker 1: one that I just came up with today. And I'm

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Speaker 1: no longer the pronoun that you thought I was yesterday,

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Speaker 1: and now I'm something new and now I'm plural and

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00:30:10,697 --> 00:30:14,377
Speaker 1: and yeah, it's never it never ends. And the thing

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00:30:14,537 --> 00:30:16,657
Speaker 1: is that it's not just people on the right that

579
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Speaker 1: know this. It's just the people on the left are

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Speaker 1: terrified to be canceled and speak, you know, speak out

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Speaker 1: and have their jobs targeted. And in some ways they

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Speaker 1: deserve it, right like they let this happen to their side,

583
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Speaker 1: but it is still sort of hard to watch people

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Speaker 1: not be able to speak. I want to ask you

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Speaker 1: about some lessons from the uh, the married world, Carol,

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Speaker 1: now that I have entered these ranks. And also I

587
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Speaker 1: want to tell I want to get us into some

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Speaker 1: uh maybe some hot water by talking about what the kids,

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Speaker 1: and I mean the youth, you know, the young people

590
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Speaker 1: today need to know about relationships and truth and society

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Speaker 1: and all the right because now that I'm married guy,

592
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Speaker 1: now I feel like I can lecture everybody and everything

593
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Speaker 1: just be like, hey, hold on, this is you know

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Speaker 1: when it comes to the young ones, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean, the young bloods out there that think that

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00:31:04,537 --> 00:31:07,017
Speaker 1: you know, just all a big party. Oh no, I'm

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00:31:07,057 --> 00:31:09,897
Speaker 1: here to tell them about other things. But I also

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Speaker 1: That's t the number two T dot org. All right, Carol, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know. Now there's a great it's unit. Nate Bargatzy,

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Speaker 1: the comedian, God, my favorite. I like to brave about

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Speaker 1: him all the time. He's such a fan. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: a fan too. It's so nice to it's funny because

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Speaker 1: I just it's amazing to see that a brand. The

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Speaker 1: same way today, there are people whose brands in journalism

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Speaker 1: is that they actually do journalism, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Like they're not actually a propagandist or a partisan activist

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Speaker 1: for one side of the other. They just they'll they'll

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Speaker 1: tell the stories that need to be told, and they

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Speaker 1: don't really care. And look, they're not perfect, but they're

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Speaker 1: that's that's a fair assessment of what their approach to

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Speaker 1: their work is. Nate Bargatzi is just a comedian. He's

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Speaker 1: actually just trying to tell jokes that make people laugh

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Speaker 1: that anyone can laugh at that are funny. I think

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Speaker 1: he does a great job. But he does this thing

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Speaker 1: that you might not have noticed yet about him, but

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Speaker 1: you hopefully will down the road. All of his specials

636
00:33:00,337 --> 00:33:04,497
Speaker 1: are super kid friendly, no cursing, no like actually anything. Yeah,

637
00:33:05,337 --> 00:33:08,297
Speaker 1: really like My twelve year old daughter loves him. We

638
00:33:08,377 --> 00:33:11,057
Speaker 1: watch like his clips all the time. Watched all three specials.

639
00:33:11,137 --> 00:33:14,217
Speaker 1: He's just family friendly. It's so weird to be hilarious

640
00:33:14,297 --> 00:33:16,897
Speaker 1: and family friendly. Yeah, he does such a such a

641
00:33:17,017 --> 00:33:19,737
Speaker 1: good job. But he has a thing where when you're

642
00:33:19,777 --> 00:33:22,977
Speaker 1: forty one or four, forty three, you're like, do you

643
00:33:23,017 --> 00:33:24,937
Speaker 1: see the re member? You're forty three and you're like, yeah,

644
00:33:25,017 --> 00:33:27,217
Speaker 1: like I can hang out with the twenty somethings, you know,

645
00:33:27,377 --> 00:33:29,697
Speaker 1: But like when you're see some guys forty five, you're like,

646
00:33:29,737 --> 00:33:31,577
Speaker 1: whoa old man? Like get out of here, you know,

647
00:33:31,617 --> 00:33:35,337
Speaker 1: because your your whole perception changes. Now now that I'm married,

648
00:33:35,377 --> 00:33:39,657
Speaker 1: I turn around and everybody out there under forty in single,

649
00:33:40,497 --> 00:33:43,177
Speaker 1: single world, I just I just want to, you know,

650
00:33:43,777 --> 00:33:46,897
Speaker 1: shake my walker or my my walking stick, my cane

651
00:33:46,937 --> 00:33:48,897
Speaker 1: in their face. You know, y'all get off my lawn

652
00:33:48,977 --> 00:33:51,137
Speaker 1: and say, you know, what, what are all you kids

653
00:33:51,177 --> 00:33:55,977
Speaker 1: doing out there with the crazy h the messaging and

654
00:33:56,537 --> 00:34:00,857
Speaker 1: and the look. I'll say, what they're teaching women? In

655
00:34:01,017 --> 00:34:04,777
Speaker 1: society today about how to conduct their private lives is

656
00:34:05,097 --> 00:34:09,097
Speaker 1: I think is super destructive. It's super destructive at a

657
00:34:09,137 --> 00:34:14,497
Speaker 1: civilizational I think that it's something that needs to really

658
00:34:14,617 --> 00:34:16,857
Speaker 1: be dealt with in a serious way as part of

659
00:34:16,937 --> 00:34:21,417
Speaker 1: an urgent conversation. I think that basically to be a

660
00:34:22,617 --> 00:34:27,097
Speaker 1: Democrat or a leftist feminist woman in America today is

661
00:34:27,137 --> 00:34:30,097
Speaker 1: to put yourself on an almost certain path to misery.

662
00:34:30,177 --> 00:34:33,857
Speaker 1: That is my basic contention. Yeah, I have to agree

663
00:34:33,857 --> 00:34:36,737
Speaker 1: with you. I think that women are allied to more

664
00:34:36,817 --> 00:34:39,977
Speaker 1: than anyone else in terms of relationships, and I think

665
00:34:40,017 --> 00:34:42,897
Speaker 1: that they're taught to not ask for what they want,

666
00:34:43,057 --> 00:34:46,537
Speaker 1: the idea that they can just date around and not

667
00:34:46,737 --> 00:34:49,617
Speaker 1: care about it. Women are different than men. And what's

668
00:34:49,857 --> 00:34:53,457
Speaker 1: interesting to me is that you know it comes from

669
00:34:53,497 --> 00:34:55,297
Speaker 1: the left, this whole idea of like, why would you

670
00:34:55,297 --> 00:34:57,057
Speaker 1: want to get married, You want to pursue your career.

671
00:34:57,537 --> 00:34:59,617
Speaker 1: I've never met a woman, and I think you and

672
00:34:59,657 --> 00:35:01,777
Speaker 1: I maybe even disagreed on this one, but I've never

673
00:35:01,857 --> 00:35:04,337
Speaker 1: met a woman who actually pursued a career over a man.

674
00:35:04,697 --> 00:35:07,417
Speaker 1: I know that there are women who pursued a career

675
00:35:07,457 --> 00:35:09,377
Speaker 1: and didn't get married. That happens, but there's plenty of

676
00:35:09,417 --> 00:35:11,897
Speaker 1: women who didn't or a career and didn't get married.

677
00:35:13,097 --> 00:35:15,257
Speaker 1: I've never met a woman who was on a good

678
00:35:15,297 --> 00:35:17,897
Speaker 1: career path who didn't also want to get married. But

679
00:35:18,337 --> 00:35:21,177
Speaker 1: it just they tell them that it doesn't matter that

680
00:35:21,417 --> 00:35:24,537
Speaker 1: you can be strong and amazing alone and you don't

681
00:35:24,537 --> 00:35:25,777
Speaker 1: need a man. What do you need a man for?

682
00:35:25,857 --> 00:35:29,217
Speaker 1: You could open your own jars. And it's just the

683
00:35:29,337 --> 00:35:33,177
Speaker 1: wrong message. And they teach that relationships are lame and

684
00:35:33,337 --> 00:35:37,417
Speaker 1: boring and only you know, the worst people want to

685
00:35:37,457 --> 00:35:39,057
Speaker 1: be in them. You want to be single and free.

686
00:35:39,137 --> 00:35:41,137
Speaker 1: And then when a woman realizes that that's all a lie,

687
00:35:41,417 --> 00:35:43,737
Speaker 1: a lot of times it's too late. Here's my contention.

688
00:35:43,817 --> 00:35:46,617
Speaker 1: I don't know if we've talked about this. I think

689
00:35:47,857 --> 00:35:50,737
Speaker 1: the show Sex in the City, as clever and entertaining

690
00:35:50,817 --> 00:35:55,657
Speaker 1: as it was, is it's almost as though the Commies

691
00:35:55,697 --> 00:35:57,377
Speaker 1: were trying to come up with a way to infiltrate

692
00:35:57,777 --> 00:36:02,617
Speaker 1: American culture and society, to destroy, to destroy male female

693
00:36:02,697 --> 00:36:05,897
Speaker 1: relationships from within, you know, to just have the whole

694
00:36:05,937 --> 00:36:09,337
Speaker 1: thing implode on itself. To me, that show is a

695
00:36:09,857 --> 00:36:14,777
Speaker 1: very entertaining, fifthy roadmap to misery for you know, as

696
00:36:14,817 --> 00:36:16,937
Speaker 1: somebody who lived in New York basically his whole life

697
00:36:16,977 --> 00:36:19,257
Speaker 1: till I moved to Florida. I just saw it. I

698
00:36:19,337 --> 00:36:21,577
Speaker 1: saw it all over the place, and I would see

699
00:36:21,617 --> 00:36:24,657
Speaker 1: these women money go ahead. Yeah. My counter to that

700
00:36:24,777 --> 00:36:28,337
Speaker 1: would be that eventually all of them got married and

701
00:36:28,377 --> 00:36:31,577
Speaker 1: settled down. The lie in that show is that it's

702
00:36:31,657 --> 00:36:34,257
Speaker 1: so easy to find a right the right person as

703
00:36:34,297 --> 00:36:37,537
Speaker 1: a woman when you're in your late thirties late forties

704
00:36:37,577 --> 00:36:40,817
Speaker 1: in that show, and that it's just you know, your Samantha,

705
00:36:40,857 --> 00:36:43,497
Speaker 1: and you're a high powered PR executive and you marry

706
00:36:43,577 --> 00:36:47,617
Speaker 1: like the hottest man anybody's ever seen, and that he's

707
00:36:47,617 --> 00:36:50,017
Speaker 1: gonna just be super all about you even though you're

708
00:36:50,057 --> 00:36:52,057
Speaker 1: in your fifties and he's in his twenties, and that's

709
00:36:52,057 --> 00:36:55,297
Speaker 1: going to make sense that generally does not happen. So

710
00:36:55,457 --> 00:36:57,857
Speaker 1: that's the kind of lies that that show told. I

711
00:36:58,017 --> 00:37:00,697
Speaker 1: think that. But the thing is that they all did

712
00:37:00,777 --> 00:37:05,057
Speaker 1: eventually kind of settle down into relationships, and that's ultimately

713
00:37:05,137 --> 00:37:07,217
Speaker 1: what they wanted. Well, you know, I guess not to

714
00:37:07,257 --> 00:37:08,617
Speaker 1: get too into this because it's like, why do I

715
00:37:08,657 --> 00:37:10,657
Speaker 1: know so much about this show? I mean, main character

716
00:37:10,817 --> 00:37:12,857
Speaker 1: never really does right as we know. Then, then the

717
00:37:12,937 --> 00:37:14,777
Speaker 1: movies were made and not that I saw the movies,

718
00:37:14,857 --> 00:37:17,137
Speaker 1: but you know, she ends up. She kind of does

719
00:37:17,177 --> 00:37:19,817
Speaker 1: and she kind of doesn't. But just the the chasing

720
00:37:20,017 --> 00:37:23,657
Speaker 1: of these career first lives that they have and and

721
00:37:23,737 --> 00:37:26,257
Speaker 1: the one character who doesn't really uh you know, the

722
00:37:26,457 --> 00:37:30,177
Speaker 1: burnette I can't really remember um Amery can't remember her name,

723
00:37:30,177 --> 00:37:33,937
Speaker 1: but anyway, her whole thing, and not like why does

724
00:37:33,977 --> 00:37:36,297
Speaker 1: Buck still think about Sex in the City. It was

725
00:37:36,417 --> 00:37:39,017
Speaker 1: very popular in HBO when I was, you know, high

726
00:37:39,057 --> 00:37:41,057
Speaker 1: school age. Everybody was watching it. I mean it was

727
00:37:41,097 --> 00:37:43,857
Speaker 1: a show that Beverly Hills nine two and HBO, I mean,

728
00:37:44,057 --> 00:37:46,137
Speaker 1: or Sex and the City and HBO. I mean, these

729
00:37:46,177 --> 00:37:48,417
Speaker 1: were the shows that everybody was watching. And I see

730
00:37:48,457 --> 00:37:49,977
Speaker 1: all these women. I mean, I remember when I graduated

731
00:37:50,057 --> 00:37:52,537
Speaker 1: from Amherst and there were all these women who were

732
00:37:52,577 --> 00:37:55,857
Speaker 1: rushing off to go work at Goldman Sachs and you know,

733
00:37:55,937 --> 00:37:58,817
Speaker 1: from my class. I remember thinking to myself, like, you know,

734
00:37:59,097 --> 00:38:01,657
Speaker 1: I'm a guy. If I want to spend my twenties,

735
00:38:01,737 --> 00:38:03,457
Speaker 1: and I went to the CIA and you know, then

736
00:38:03,537 --> 00:38:05,177
Speaker 1: did some other kind of crazy stuff, but that was

737
00:38:05,257 --> 00:38:07,457
Speaker 1: my choice. But if I if I was going to

738
00:38:07,537 --> 00:38:11,457
Speaker 1: spend my twenties, um making a lot of money, which

739
00:38:11,537 --> 00:38:13,257
Speaker 1: is what people going to invest in banking for. This

740
00:38:13,377 --> 00:38:15,257
Speaker 1: may be a shock and not so much anymore, but this,

741
00:38:15,457 --> 00:38:17,297
Speaker 1: you know, twenty years ago, is what people were doing.

742
00:38:19,177 --> 00:38:23,017
Speaker 1: I would assume that I'm mortgaging my twenties at some level,

743
00:38:23,097 --> 00:38:26,057
Speaker 1: like I'm just gonna burn out as much as i can,

744
00:38:26,417 --> 00:38:28,417
Speaker 1: get as much worked on, get as far as I can,

745
00:38:28,497 --> 00:38:30,217
Speaker 1: and make as much money as I can, and develop

746
00:38:30,257 --> 00:38:33,377
Speaker 1: as much prestige from the competency that I have as

747
00:38:33,457 --> 00:38:36,617
Speaker 1: I can. So then at thirty or thirty five, or

748
00:38:36,657 --> 00:38:39,577
Speaker 1: even forty or even forty five, I can turn around

749
00:38:39,617 --> 00:38:41,857
Speaker 1: and have my choice of mates. And I just feel

750
00:38:41,897 --> 00:38:44,257
Speaker 1: like no one ever stopped to tell the women who

751
00:38:44,297 --> 00:38:46,697
Speaker 1: showed up at Golden Sacks or and not just any

752
00:38:46,857 --> 00:38:50,217
Speaker 1: big firm or corporate law whatever, at any of these places. Hey,

753
00:38:50,737 --> 00:38:53,457
Speaker 1: you're twenty three or twenty four. If you do this

754
00:38:53,657 --> 00:38:56,457
Speaker 1: for the next ten years and this is really your focus,

755
00:38:56,977 --> 00:39:03,457
Speaker 1: your life choices are changed forever. Just understand that. Yeah,

756
00:39:03,777 --> 00:39:06,657
Speaker 1: So here's another way that the left destroys the path

757
00:39:06,737 --> 00:39:09,337
Speaker 1: to women. If you are one of these women and

758
00:39:09,417 --> 00:39:13,777
Speaker 1: you go into this high powered, high energy and high

759
00:39:13,857 --> 00:39:17,617
Speaker 1: earning environment, it would be great to meet a man there,

760
00:39:17,977 --> 00:39:20,417
Speaker 1: except men now can't hit on you in the workplace

761
00:39:20,537 --> 00:39:23,457
Speaker 1: because there they'd be sexual predators, and you're not allowed

762
00:39:23,457 --> 00:39:26,337
Speaker 1: to date at work, and there's all these issues around that.

763
00:39:26,497 --> 00:39:28,617
Speaker 1: But meeting somebody at work used to make a lot

764
00:39:28,697 --> 00:39:31,337
Speaker 1: of sense. And if you wanted to meet somebody who

765
00:39:31,777 --> 00:39:33,897
Speaker 1: was a go get or a Goldman Sax, there's really

766
00:39:33,937 --> 00:39:36,617
Speaker 1: not a better place to meet them than at Goldman Sax.

767
00:39:37,057 --> 00:39:41,017
Speaker 1: So it's again, the left is destroying the idea of

768
00:39:41,097 --> 00:39:44,337
Speaker 1: relationships for these women when that's ultimately what they're going

769
00:39:44,417 --> 00:39:47,457
Speaker 1: to want. And I do see a rise in a

770
00:39:47,537 --> 00:39:53,297
Speaker 1: willingness among conservatives in general now to speak with much

771
00:39:53,337 --> 00:39:56,937
Speaker 1: more forcefulness about about gender roles and about what's going

772
00:39:57,017 --> 00:40:00,457
Speaker 1: to make for a long term, happy plan. And you

773
00:40:00,497 --> 00:40:03,097
Speaker 1: know what society, right, there's everyone. Look, there's always going

774
00:40:03,137 --> 00:40:04,937
Speaker 1: to be somebody who just wants to travel the world

775
00:40:04,937 --> 00:40:07,257
Speaker 1: and write books. And that's fine. It's not that people

776
00:40:07,257 --> 00:40:09,617
Speaker 1: shouldn't have freedom and choice male, female or whatever, but

777
00:40:09,697 --> 00:40:14,617
Speaker 1: it's what does society offer as a path that should

778
00:40:14,657 --> 00:40:18,417
Speaker 1: be replicated in as great as great a frequency as

779
00:40:18,457 --> 00:40:24,337
Speaker 1: possible to create the most happy, productive and stable society possible. Right,

780
00:40:24,377 --> 00:40:26,817
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, every policy is going to have exceptions.

781
00:40:26,857 --> 00:40:29,017
Speaker 1: Everything in the macro, when you break it down to

782
00:40:29,137 --> 00:40:32,457
Speaker 1: an individual level, is going to have musications that are different.

783
00:40:32,537 --> 00:40:34,577
Speaker 1: That's fine. Where people say, well, do you think priests

784
00:40:34,617 --> 00:40:36,577
Speaker 1: are throwing their lives away or you know whatever, because

785
00:40:36,617 --> 00:40:39,577
Speaker 1: obviously they don't marry, it's no. Obviously there are people

786
00:40:39,657 --> 00:40:42,577
Speaker 1: that don't need to go down this pathway. But the

787
00:40:42,697 --> 00:40:45,417
Speaker 1: other pathway that they're told about, which is just and

788
00:40:45,737 --> 00:40:47,457
Speaker 1: it's for women, I'll tell you it's for guys too.

789
00:40:48,057 --> 00:40:52,377
Speaker 1: It's not good. You know. I think that telling people

790
00:40:52,777 --> 00:40:56,137
Speaker 1: to spend their twenties partying, drinking, and having sex with

791
00:40:56,217 --> 00:40:58,217
Speaker 1: as many women as they possibly can, which is what

792
00:40:58,977 --> 00:41:03,217
Speaker 1: socially successful males are basically told to do, not necessarily

793
00:41:03,297 --> 00:41:05,097
Speaker 1: as many as possible. But you know, there's a lot

794
00:41:05,177 --> 00:41:09,537
Speaker 1: of that that goes on that's not actually helpful for

795
00:41:10,297 --> 00:41:12,857
Speaker 1: and for those individuals. I think later on and people say, oh,

796
00:41:13,417 --> 00:41:14,857
Speaker 1: you know again, I've been married for two days and

797
00:41:14,937 --> 00:41:16,377
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I'm an expert and everything. But

798
00:41:16,457 --> 00:41:18,417
Speaker 1: I've known this stuff. I've known this stuff for a

799
00:41:18,497 --> 00:41:22,657
Speaker 1: long time. I'm coming up on fourteen years, so I

800
00:41:22,777 --> 00:41:26,257
Speaker 1: can definitely play the expert here. Yeah, men, are lied

801
00:41:26,297 --> 00:41:29,977
Speaker 1: to also, But again, like you said, the man's window

802
00:41:30,217 --> 00:41:32,577
Speaker 1: is just wider, and that's the only reason that the

803
00:41:32,657 --> 00:41:34,537
Speaker 1: men get away with it more than the women do.

804
00:41:35,417 --> 00:41:37,617
Speaker 1: There's plenty of men who have been destroyed by that

805
00:41:37,777 --> 00:41:40,337
Speaker 1: culture and who find themselves alone and maybe want to

806
00:41:40,377 --> 00:41:42,137
Speaker 1: get married but don't know how to connect, and they

807
00:41:42,177 --> 00:41:44,737
Speaker 1: spent their twenties just messing around with random girls, and

808
00:41:44,857 --> 00:41:46,777
Speaker 1: it is harder for them to find the right person

809
00:41:46,897 --> 00:41:49,137
Speaker 1: for themselves. So one of the other ways that the

810
00:41:49,297 --> 00:41:52,297
Speaker 1: left tells women that they have to like certain things

811
00:41:52,377 --> 00:41:54,417
Speaker 1: and they can't like other things, and they just don't

812
00:41:54,457 --> 00:41:57,097
Speaker 1: think that men get the same message That show madmen.

813
00:41:57,337 --> 00:42:01,537
Speaker 1: You know about the ad executives on Madison Avenue in

814
00:42:01,537 --> 00:42:04,257
Speaker 1: the sixties, there was the character played by John Hamm

815
00:42:04,297 --> 00:42:08,177
Speaker 1: and he was like this hard drinking, chain smoking, you know, womanizing,

816
00:42:08,657 --> 00:42:11,577
Speaker 1: just jerk, And all these liberal magazines would write these

817
00:42:11,657 --> 00:42:14,257
Speaker 1: like tehehe pieces about how attracted they were to the

818
00:42:14,377 --> 00:42:17,017
Speaker 1: character Don Draper and how they knew that they weren't

819
00:42:17,017 --> 00:42:19,417
Speaker 1: supposed to be. But men don't really have that, you

820
00:42:19,697 --> 00:42:21,417
Speaker 1: you know, you don't really have the like I'm attracted

821
00:42:21,457 --> 00:42:23,657
Speaker 1: to the cocktail Wagers, but I feel so bad about it.

822
00:42:24,017 --> 00:42:26,937
Speaker 1: But the left makes women feel bad about what they're

823
00:42:26,937 --> 00:42:29,657
Speaker 1: attracted to, and that's crazy. What you're attracted to is

824
00:42:29,657 --> 00:42:31,977
Speaker 1: what you're attracted to. And the fact that you know

825
00:42:32,137 --> 00:42:34,857
Speaker 1: Don Draper did it for so many women is a

826
00:42:35,017 --> 00:42:37,937
Speaker 1: sign that they liked a more powerful guy and that

827
00:42:38,057 --> 00:42:39,897
Speaker 1: you weren't supposed to like him, and you knew you

828
00:42:39,977 --> 00:42:42,257
Speaker 1: weren't supposed to like him. Is what the left and

829
00:42:42,377 --> 00:42:44,417
Speaker 1: force is here. So you used to live in Brooklyn,

830
00:42:44,657 --> 00:42:47,417
Speaker 1: so you know plenty of people on the left, and

831
00:42:48,737 --> 00:42:52,097
Speaker 1: you're cool, so you have cool left wing friends. Did

832
00:42:52,177 --> 00:42:55,897
Speaker 1: any of your cool left wing female friends, to your knowledge,

833
00:42:56,657 --> 00:42:59,577
Speaker 1: actually think that a guy that was interested in them

834
00:42:59,657 --> 00:43:04,497
Speaker 1: romantically who described himself as a male feminist was doing

835
00:43:04,617 --> 00:43:08,577
Speaker 1: himself any favors. I think the ones that I knew

836
00:43:09,537 --> 00:43:12,897
Speaker 1: knew that any male feminist was likely just China get

837
00:43:12,977 --> 00:43:16,337
Speaker 1: in their pants. But you know, I know that there's

838
00:43:16,377 --> 00:43:21,337
Speaker 1: a wider world where the male feminist does enjoy some

839
00:43:22,377 --> 00:43:25,577
Speaker 1: you know, perks of being a male feminist. I also

840
00:43:25,617 --> 00:43:28,137
Speaker 1: I lived on a commune in Scotland where everybody was

841
00:43:28,177 --> 00:43:31,297
Speaker 1: a male feminist. And yeah, the ones who could successfully

842
00:43:31,857 --> 00:43:34,497
Speaker 1: argue their case and make it seem like they weren't

843
00:43:34,537 --> 00:43:37,057
Speaker 1: just after one thing did quite well with the ladies.

844
00:43:37,857 --> 00:43:41,017
Speaker 1: It's just stunning, stunning the scams that people could pull off.

845
00:43:42,137 --> 00:43:45,897
Speaker 1: Do you think that there's a room or a necessity

846
00:43:45,977 --> 00:43:50,097
Speaker 1: even for the right and for the Republican Party to

847
00:43:51,057 --> 00:43:58,417
Speaker 1: really start to articulate a family and you know, traditional

848
00:43:58,577 --> 00:44:01,697
Speaker 1: family values agenda again, I feel like it fell off.

849
00:44:01,817 --> 00:44:02,937
Speaker 1: I used to hear about this all the time in

850
00:44:02,937 --> 00:44:05,417
Speaker 1: the nineties. Oh you know that, you know, traditional family.

851
00:44:05,497 --> 00:44:08,057
Speaker 1: Various people talk about Philish Laughley and how she defeated

852
00:44:08,057 --> 00:44:10,577
Speaker 1: the Eagle Rights amament, and there was all this discussion

853
00:44:10,617 --> 00:44:13,217
Speaker 1: of you know, you know, focus on the family, support

854
00:44:13,257 --> 00:44:15,977
Speaker 1: the family. It fell off, and it does feel like

855
00:44:16,137 --> 00:44:20,177
Speaker 1: now the left and the Democrat Party is just at

856
00:44:20,217 --> 00:44:23,297
Speaker 1: its core run by a lot of unhappy you know,

857
00:44:23,457 --> 00:44:27,657
Speaker 1: cat ladies with blue hair and nose rings, right, And

858
00:44:28,097 --> 00:44:29,937
Speaker 1: I think there should be but it has to be

859
00:44:30,057 --> 00:44:32,377
Speaker 1: done in a cooler way. I mean, social media just

860
00:44:32,537 --> 00:44:35,617
Speaker 1: changed everything. So now the left has on social media,

861
00:44:35,777 --> 00:44:40,057
Speaker 1: like you know, polyamory is very popular on social media,

862
00:44:40,457 --> 00:44:43,017
Speaker 1: and you have these couples like arguing on social media.

863
00:44:43,097 --> 00:44:45,617
Speaker 1: How you know, monogamy is so out and it's so

864
00:44:45,777 --> 00:44:48,257
Speaker 1: outdated and it's like, do you think you're the first

865
00:44:48,337 --> 00:44:50,697
Speaker 1: people to try this? Like, do you think that throughout

866
00:44:50,817 --> 00:44:55,497
Speaker 1: civilizations they haven't considered the idea of being with multiple partners?

867
00:44:55,577 --> 00:44:58,057
Speaker 1: You're not that unique, and yet you think that you

868
00:44:58,177 --> 00:45:00,217
Speaker 1: come up with this new idea that's going to work

869
00:45:00,417 --> 00:45:04,737
Speaker 1: for only you and nobody else, you know, throughout history,

870
00:45:05,057 --> 00:45:07,177
Speaker 1: And the fact is it never works. And that's why

871
00:45:07,257 --> 00:45:10,217
Speaker 1: people settle onto monogamy. It's not because we don't have

872
00:45:10,297 --> 00:45:13,417
Speaker 1: the imagination to consider having multiple partners, is because it's

873
00:45:13,457 --> 00:45:16,897
Speaker 1: always a fail. And so I think the right should

874
00:45:17,017 --> 00:45:21,577
Speaker 1: target this kind of messaging and show relationships as being

875
00:45:21,657 --> 00:45:25,297
Speaker 1: a positive thing. If relationships are always a downer, I

876
00:45:25,377 --> 00:45:28,057
Speaker 1: can see why the marriage rate is decreasing, but you know,

877
00:45:28,257 --> 00:45:30,897
Speaker 1: even beyond just the marriage rate, which is a problem,

878
00:45:30,977 --> 00:45:33,017
Speaker 1: and then the birth rate, you know, declining is a

879
00:45:33,097 --> 00:45:37,777
Speaker 1: giant problem. People are having fewer relationships, they're having fewer friendships.

880
00:45:37,857 --> 00:45:40,497
Speaker 1: All of this is very bad for our society and

881
00:45:40,617 --> 00:45:42,577
Speaker 1: it needs to be turned around, and it has to

882
00:45:42,657 --> 00:45:45,577
Speaker 1: be turned around in a smart way, and social media

883
00:45:45,697 --> 00:45:48,497
Speaker 1: really should be utilized in this pursuit. Do you think

884
00:45:48,977 --> 00:45:53,537
Speaker 1: I think it's Professor Scott Galloway at Nyu who you know,

885
00:45:54,217 --> 00:45:56,817
Speaker 1: spits fire about Trump and says a lot of things

886
00:45:56,857 --> 00:45:59,057
Speaker 1: I think about the right in general that are are

887
00:45:59,217 --> 00:46:02,537
Speaker 1: not intelligent and not well thought out. But he does

888
00:46:02,657 --> 00:46:06,777
Speaker 1: say some things on social broader social issues you know,

889
00:46:06,817 --> 00:46:08,417
Speaker 1: think I'm talking about. By the way, he's started to

890
00:46:08,457 --> 00:46:09,697
Speaker 1: pick up a lot of team. He's been on Bill

891
00:46:09,777 --> 00:46:13,577
Speaker 1: Maher recently. He's there tiktoks and things like that with him. Um,

892
00:46:14,257 --> 00:46:18,537
Speaker 1: but he talks about what he calls uh por Porsche polygamy,

893
00:46:19,097 --> 00:46:22,137
Speaker 1: and he says that in the world of dating apps,

894
00:46:22,537 --> 00:46:24,737
Speaker 1: which you know, everyone's always walking around coming up with

895
00:46:24,817 --> 00:46:27,817
Speaker 1: their story for how they met their person that is

896
00:46:28,937 --> 00:46:30,657
Speaker 1: not we met on a dating app. It's kind of

897
00:46:30,657 --> 00:46:33,017
Speaker 1: funny right when you realize right now, I mean, it's

898
00:46:33,097 --> 00:46:36,857
Speaker 1: it's gone to the point where, um, if you're not

899
00:46:36,977 --> 00:46:39,017
Speaker 1: on dating apps, actually you're almost not in the dating

900
00:46:39,057 --> 00:46:42,177
Speaker 1: pool if you're a single person, because it's there's just

901
00:46:42,297 --> 00:46:45,217
Speaker 1: such a there's been such a change, and people don't

902
00:46:45,217 --> 00:46:49,377
Speaker 1: go to nightclubs anymore the same way, you know, because

903
00:46:49,417 --> 00:46:52,937
Speaker 1: it works and because this is but you also work,

904
00:46:53,057 --> 00:46:56,537
Speaker 1: they're not allowed to meet at work anymore, which oh yeah,

905
00:46:56,537 --> 00:46:59,977
Speaker 1: they're not. You're oh no, you're you're definitely it's very suspect.

906
00:47:00,017 --> 00:47:02,097
Speaker 1: I mean I I, for example, I've never dated anybody

907
00:47:02,177 --> 00:47:04,217
Speaker 1: at a company, never mind like a direct report or

908
00:47:04,257 --> 00:47:06,297
Speaker 1: anything like that. I've never dated anybody at a company

909
00:47:06,497 --> 00:47:09,017
Speaker 1: where I have been an employee, with the exception of

910
00:47:09,097 --> 00:47:11,977
Speaker 1: the CIA. But like that's you know, like that's like

911
00:47:12,137 --> 00:47:14,577
Speaker 1: going to a that that's enormous. And you know, there's

912
00:47:14,897 --> 00:47:16,737
Speaker 1: you want to think about the CIA is if you

913
00:47:16,777 --> 00:47:18,177
Speaker 1: don't want to see the person you're dating to the

914
00:47:18,257 --> 00:47:20,817
Speaker 1: CIA again, you never will because you know who knows

915
00:47:20,857 --> 00:47:24,977
Speaker 1: whether to be said next. But in a you know,

916
00:47:25,097 --> 00:47:27,257
Speaker 1: even there there were very kind of strict rules about

917
00:47:27,297 --> 00:47:29,497
Speaker 1: about reporting requirements and things like that if you had

918
00:47:29,537 --> 00:47:32,297
Speaker 1: a relationship internally, you know, in the same office or

919
00:47:32,297 --> 00:47:37,097
Speaker 1: anything like that. I just think that you have this

920
00:47:37,297 --> 00:47:40,897
Speaker 1: situation where women are being and maybe now this is

921
00:47:40,937 --> 00:47:43,617
Speaker 1: getting a more contentious territory. Women are being trained to

922
00:47:43,697 --> 00:47:47,097
Speaker 1: think like men in their dating selection. And you see

923
00:47:47,137 --> 00:47:50,417
Speaker 1: that so Zi Gallery talks about porship, progresivism, sorry portship

924
00:47:50,497 --> 00:47:54,537
Speaker 1: polygamy where he says that eighty percent of the women

925
00:47:55,217 --> 00:47:57,417
Speaker 1: have an interest in only twenty percent of the men.

926
00:47:57,497 --> 00:48:00,937
Speaker 1: Basically that you have this and and that women are

927
00:48:01,177 --> 00:48:06,977
Speaker 1: instead of choosing for things that require more of a relationship.

928
00:48:07,017 --> 00:48:09,337
Speaker 1: Basis to understand, I know the flip side of this

929
00:48:09,417 --> 00:48:13,097
Speaker 1: women's but men are so superficial, which brings us to

930
00:48:13,217 --> 00:48:17,617
Speaker 1: the Yes, men are more superficial about women's appearance than women.

931
00:48:17,657 --> 00:48:18,817
Speaker 1: That this is the way it has been in all

932
00:48:18,857 --> 00:48:21,297
Speaker 1: of human history until now. But you have all these

933
00:48:21,337 --> 00:48:22,937
Speaker 1: women who are saying I won't get a guy who's

934
00:48:23,017 --> 00:48:25,777
Speaker 1: under six foot two, and I you know, and I

935
00:48:25,897 --> 00:48:27,617
Speaker 1: want a guy with a six pack, and I want

936
00:48:27,617 --> 00:48:29,417
Speaker 1: a guy with like lots of tattoos all over his

937
00:48:29,577 --> 00:48:32,777
Speaker 1: arms and these sorts of things, And that this is

938
00:48:32,937 --> 00:48:36,657
Speaker 1: creating a society where thirty percent of men, I think

939
00:48:36,657 --> 00:48:38,817
Speaker 1: he said this is again from Scott Gallery, thirty percent

940
00:48:38,857 --> 00:48:41,377
Speaker 1: of men under thirty haven't had a sexual relationship in

941
00:48:41,377 --> 00:48:45,857
Speaker 1: the last year. That's main blowing, right, And are the women,

942
00:48:46,057 --> 00:48:48,337
Speaker 1: I mean, are the women having sexual relationships because if

943
00:48:48,497 --> 00:48:50,777
Speaker 1: it seems like the eighty percent can't be just sleeping

944
00:48:50,817 --> 00:48:54,057
Speaker 1: with the twenty percent, right, So you know, it's it's funny.

945
00:48:54,137 --> 00:48:57,337
Speaker 1: You're right, men do go for looks more than you

946
00:48:57,417 --> 00:49:00,937
Speaker 1: know women do or have. Maybe that's changing now, but

947
00:49:01,097 --> 00:49:04,057
Speaker 1: women used to go for security and I don't think

948
00:49:04,097 --> 00:49:06,657
Speaker 1: that was a bad thing. I don't think, you know,

949
00:49:06,817 --> 00:49:09,737
Speaker 1: women choosing partners who are not going to be bad

950
00:49:09,777 --> 00:49:13,417
Speaker 1: toa is a bad thing. I don't know. I really

951
00:49:13,497 --> 00:49:16,457
Speaker 1: don't understand the concept that I see a lot on

952
00:49:16,537 --> 00:49:19,377
Speaker 1: social media now where the woman only wants the guy

953
00:49:19,417 --> 00:49:21,617
Speaker 1: who doesn't want her, And that makes no sense to me.

954
00:49:21,857 --> 00:49:25,017
Speaker 1: That's like, I can't imagine liking somebody who does not

955
00:49:25,097 --> 00:49:27,537
Speaker 1: like me. That just does not compute at all. And

956
00:49:27,657 --> 00:49:30,337
Speaker 1: that's like what's happening now that they're being kind of

957
00:49:30,417 --> 00:49:33,137
Speaker 1: trained to like the ones who will never like them back.

958
00:49:33,577 --> 00:49:37,657
Speaker 1: I also think that there's this again, there's this desire

959
00:49:37,737 --> 00:49:40,017
Speaker 1: to treat men and women as though the same, whether

960
00:49:40,057 --> 00:49:42,697
Speaker 1: it's in sports now and all this stuff, that there's

961
00:49:42,737 --> 00:49:47,377
Speaker 1: this same enforced sameness that does not exist. Men and

962
00:49:47,457 --> 00:49:52,657
Speaker 1: women process sexual relationships differently emotionally. I don't know. People say, oh,

963
00:49:52,697 --> 00:49:54,417
Speaker 1: I know women that could you know they can sleep

964
00:49:54,457 --> 00:49:57,497
Speaker 1: with a hundred guys, and it's a no, Actually, it

965
00:49:57,697 --> 00:49:59,737
Speaker 1: really is just not true. And they can tell themselves

966
00:49:59,777 --> 00:50:02,737
Speaker 1: this as much as they want, But the psychological toll

967
00:50:02,977 --> 00:50:05,777
Speaker 1: on women of conducting themselves this way, and I've seen

968
00:50:05,897 --> 00:50:07,817
Speaker 1: it from plenty of women that I know, and plenty

969
00:50:07,857 --> 00:50:10,137
Speaker 1: women I know who never get in the number. It

970
00:50:10,177 --> 00:50:11,577
Speaker 1: would be stunning, I think, to the people in the

971
00:50:11,617 --> 00:50:14,897
Speaker 1: rest of the country. The number of really good looking,

972
00:50:15,457 --> 00:50:19,297
Speaker 1: really interesting and compelling in a whole range of ways

973
00:50:19,977 --> 00:50:23,057
Speaker 1: women in New York City thirty five to forty five

974
00:50:23,377 --> 00:50:26,457
Speaker 1: that are not married, we'll probably never get married, and

975
00:50:26,497 --> 00:50:28,497
Speaker 1: we'll probably never have children. I think would blow the

976
00:50:28,577 --> 00:50:30,977
Speaker 1: minds of people who don't live in you know, DC

977
00:50:31,257 --> 00:50:35,537
Speaker 1: or LA or you know San Francisco. Yeah, I think

978
00:50:35,577 --> 00:50:40,017
Speaker 1: that big cities have the worst problem of telling women

979
00:50:41,457 --> 00:50:43,577
Speaker 1: what they should be interested in and what they should

980
00:50:43,577 --> 00:50:45,497
Speaker 1: be looking for, and how that really doesn't fit in

981
00:50:45,617 --> 00:50:47,937
Speaker 1: with what women are and what we actually feel and

982
00:50:48,057 --> 00:50:50,017
Speaker 1: all those other things. You're right, we're not the same.

983
00:50:50,097 --> 00:50:51,377
Speaker 1: I don't know why we need to be the same.

984
00:50:51,457 --> 00:50:52,697
Speaker 1: I don't want to be like a man. You guys

985
00:50:52,737 --> 00:50:55,097
Speaker 1: are just not that great. Yeah, I mean, you know

986
00:50:55,977 --> 00:51:00,937
Speaker 1: we kind of smell sometimes. Yeah, we all we got

987
00:51:01,857 --> 00:51:04,137
Speaker 1: we all got manned thighs. You know which we're not.

988
00:51:04,257 --> 00:51:06,697
Speaker 1: You know, women and women were constructed for for beauty

989
00:51:06,777 --> 00:51:10,337
Speaker 1: and aesthetics and and you know the you know, you're

990
00:51:10,377 --> 00:51:13,617
Speaker 1: all aphrodites. You know you're all God's gift and creating

991
00:51:13,697 --> 00:51:18,497
Speaker 1: the next generation. And guys, you know we can dress.

992
00:51:18,617 --> 00:51:20,857
Speaker 1: We can dress like Zelenski when we don't even mean to,

993
00:51:21,057 --> 00:51:24,537
Speaker 1: and things like that can happen. We already married anymore.

994
00:51:24,817 --> 00:51:27,617
Speaker 1: That's right. Um, I didn't say that allowed today. So

995
00:51:28,377 --> 00:51:32,457
Speaker 1: everybody should go get Carol's book, which you should get

996
00:51:32,857 --> 00:51:36,057
Speaker 1: on Amazona where you get fine books, Stolen Youth and

997
00:51:37,777 --> 00:51:41,577
Speaker 1: coming out March seventh. And also New York Post commist

998
00:51:41,617 --> 00:51:43,697
Speaker 1: Carol Markowitz and also one of the people that helped

999
00:51:43,737 --> 00:51:45,697
Speaker 1: convince me to move to Florida. So thank you for that,

1000
00:51:46,817 --> 00:51:48,697
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming. We're really happy to have you.

1001
00:51:49,137 --> 00:51:50,857
Speaker 1: I thank you in the acknowledgements of the book. I

1002
00:51:50,937 --> 00:51:54,097
Speaker 1: thank the Florida Crew. Oh nice, I'm very I'm very

1003
00:51:54,097 --> 00:51:56,457
Speaker 1: honored to get an acknowledgement as part of the Florida Crew.

1004
00:51:56,537 --> 00:51:59,617
Speaker 1: So we're going to save America and Carol is one

1005
00:51:59,657 --> 00:52:01,617
Speaker 1: of the key people in that process. Carol, thank you

1006
00:52:01,657 --> 00:52:03,377
Speaker 1: so much for being with this Sharon's Wisdom. We'll have

1007
00:52:03,417 --> 00:52:04,937
Speaker 1: you back soon. Thanks so much. U