Speaker 1: Still the Place with Laura Layton, Courtney thorn Smith.
Speaker 2: And daphnews Aniga and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 3: Hey everyone, Hello, back at thend Melrose minute.
Speaker 2: It should be called well, well it doesn't have the
Speaker 2: same ring, but Melrose more than a minute.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the Melrose chunk.
Speaker 1: Of let's not make the quick thing longer in the title,
Speaker 1: do you guys, this is total non separatter, But do
Speaker 1: you notice how long our opening credits are, Like there
Speaker 1: was so much more time. Like now advertising anything takes
Speaker 1: up like twenty minutes of the hour. But we had
Speaker 1: so much money, our credits were like two minutes longer.
Speaker 5: So long, yeah, like watching what it was in the nineties.
Speaker 1: Opening credit Yeah, like people were willing to sit through
Speaker 1: long credits.
Speaker 2: Now you think that they were like very iconic those credits,
Speaker 2: all those shots on Melrose.
Speaker 3: And well it's been fun also to see like reminded,
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, soon so was guest starring.
Speaker 5: Oh look there's Mitchell Anderson.
Speaker 3: Oh look there's you know, Wulkins, And that has been
Speaker 3: really fun to like see him pop up that way.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and special guest star Heather Lockler. She kept that
Speaker 1: credit when she was a regular yep.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's a smart one that Heather.
Speaker 3: Well, that was a super fun episode seeing her her
Speaker 3: first appearance, and it also brought up some subjects with
Speaker 3: us that we thought of along the way. We were
Speaker 3: we were talking about blind dates, and like, it sounds
Speaker 3: like Daphne has some blind dates of her own.
Speaker 5: I can't wait to hear Daphne's story.
Speaker 4: Had a good blind date, which is rare. I had a.
Speaker 2: Very excellent blind date.
Speaker 5: You want to hear about that?
Speaker 2: Well, I'm well, we were. I met him in New York.
Speaker 2: I was set up with a guy, a man who
Speaker 2: lived in New York while outside of New York, and
Speaker 2: I thought, I have nothing in common with him? What
Speaker 2: am What am I going to do with a devorcee
Speaker 2: in Connecticut?
Speaker 5: What part of your life? How old are you?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 5: Where are you in your life eighteen years ago?
Speaker 4: However old I was then? Okay, twenty's with twenty.
Speaker 2: You know you're old when, like the joke is thirty
Speaker 2: or forty.
Speaker 5: I like that kind of math though it's like eighteen
Speaker 5: years ago.
Speaker 3: But I'm not telling you how whatever it wasn't in
Speaker 3: my you know, youth and childhood.
Speaker 2: But I'm going to keep this short, because I want
Speaker 2: to hear about your dates.
Speaker 4: I need you guys to divulge.
Speaker 2: But at any rate, the date started in New York
Speaker 2: City one weekend and ended a week later in Miami
Speaker 2: South Beach, and I am now married to him.
Speaker 5: So good.
Speaker 1: You know, so they do buy the cow when they
Speaker 1: get the milk for Hey.
Speaker 2: What's the cow with the sausage for free?
Speaker 5: Such a feminist, I am. Yeah, what a beautiful, like
Speaker 5: blind date story. I love that?
Speaker 4: And set you up? Did you tell us?
Speaker 2: I didn't tell you, just a friend, irrelevant, but someone
Speaker 2: who knew him for a long time. And I was
Speaker 2: it's funny because I said, what does he do? And
Speaker 2: he said he works at the Bronx Zoo. And instantly
Speaker 2: like a like an elephant someone shoveling elephant pool.
Speaker 5: Picture, like a maintenance man who set me up with?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he's like, no, he does PR press and
Speaker 2: PR for publicity and branding for the zoo.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And then I didn't meet him for three weeks before
Speaker 2: we had the date. We were on the phone and
Speaker 2: email a lot, and what was so refreshing and so
Speaker 2: wonderful was just how honest you don't play games at
Speaker 2: that age? I was in my mid forties, and I
Speaker 2: didn't think it was going to work because he lived
Speaker 2: way over in Connecticut, and you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: he had a kid at home, and I just didn't
Speaker 2: think it was going to work. So I had nothing
Speaker 2: to lose. I wasn't trying to be anything, and he
Speaker 2: wasn't trying to do either. So we were just very
Speaker 2: honest with each other, and it really really created a
Speaker 2: trust and a circle of you know, just friendship and
Speaker 2: trust and it was and other stuff. It was just
Speaker 2: really great. So I love We were long distance for
Speaker 2: the first three years until moved out here once his
Speaker 2: son was Wow left.
Speaker 3: You did not have like the Claire problem and the
Speaker 3: like the opposite taste problem that Billy had with his
Speaker 3: Blain date.
Speaker 2: I did not have that problem at all. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: mean we were We're very different. This guy is East Coast,
Speaker 2: grew up in private schools, you know, very proper mannered. I,
Speaker 2: as I told you before, was very scrappy kid in Berkeley, California,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like my public schools the
Speaker 2: whole way. So we were very opposite. But again it
Speaker 2: was something about he wasn't playing games. He called me
Speaker 2: right away and his voice and was like, A man,
Speaker 2: I don't know, there was just something I could tell
Speaker 2: in his voice. And then we just really trust each
Speaker 2: other because we opened up to each other before we
Speaker 2: even met, and we were very honest about being nervous
Speaker 2: about meeting. I was like, and then I just go,
Speaker 2: can we just make a deal that if it just
Speaker 2: doesn't work for whatever reason for either one of us,
Speaker 2: we can just call it a day and call it
Speaker 2: quits and no hard feelings. And he's like, yes, please, okay, okay, good.
Speaker 2: So it was we had that kind of understanding, so
Speaker 2: a fun as opposed to like pressure. And he didn't
Speaker 2: live here, so I think, like Billy and Ol, when
Speaker 2: you do a blind date, you usually live in the
Speaker 2: same town and you just kind of feel like, oh,
Speaker 2: if you don't like it, how am I going to
Speaker 2: extract myself from it? But he lives so far away.
Speaker 2: I was like, it doesn't work, I'll never see him again,
Speaker 2: you know, so, but it did.
Speaker 4: That was eighteen years.
Speaker 5: Ago, very happy ending to that story.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a great guy. I'm very very smart. So, uh,
Speaker 2: what about you guys? Any blind dates that were great
Speaker 2: or horrible?
Speaker 4: Horrible? I never married a blind date. No, wait did I?
Speaker 4: How did you meet your husband?
Speaker 5: I love that you genuinely had to double think that. Wait, wait,
Speaker 5: let me double check my memory.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my son's dad and I met on an airplane plane.
Speaker 4: But I I don't like blind dates.
Speaker 1: Because I think they're so much pressure before you meet,
Speaker 1: and there is so much about It's not about like
Speaker 1: someone looking a specific way, but but chemistry and attraction,
Speaker 1: that something that you can't really put a name on.
Speaker 4: It's important. So I'm not a fan.
Speaker 1: I just find that I find there's so much anxiety
Speaker 1: around a blind date and it rarely works out.
Speaker 4: What do you think, Laura, Well.
Speaker 5: I've never been on one.
Speaker 3: I've never really been on a blind date, so I'm fascinated.
Speaker 3: I want to hear all about your back.
Speaker 1: We, Doug, understand if we set you up on a
Speaker 1: blind date, so you its timing.
Speaker 5: I think it's maybe not a good idea right now.
Speaker 5: This is just not a good time for Listen.
Speaker 1: She's happily married, but she's gorgeous and she's funny.
Speaker 3: So it's a blind and really bad idea date. Yeah, no,
Speaker 3: let's not do it. But daph I'd like to hear
Speaker 3: about some that were really bad. Let's I want to
Speaker 3: hear some like really well, I mean, I'm prepare to tell.
Speaker 3: I mean, I just remember once in I think maybe
Speaker 3: it was college or shortly after. There's just no no chemistry,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, Like I remember that. But
Speaker 3: I've met most of my people not through blind dates.
Speaker 3: This was rare because I never, you know, met a
Speaker 3: blind date. I never tried online or anything. I was
Speaker 3: always through a friend or work or something.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: So but my friend said, actually I had two blind
Speaker 2: dates in New York. That's so funny. And I, you know,
Speaker 2: I started talking to David right away on emails, and
Speaker 2: then you know, I emailed the other guy who waited
Speaker 2: a long time to get to me, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest with you. There's another guy that
Speaker 2: I was set up on it. I was totally honest
Speaker 2: with him. So if I don't meet you, that's because
Speaker 2: I had a really great time Saturday night. I don't
Speaker 2: meet you. And he's like, oh, man, I waited too long,
Speaker 2: and I've looked him up since he's married, has kids,
Speaker 2: he's very happily married. But I didn't meet with the guy.
Speaker 2: I told him I'm not gonna meet him because time
Speaker 2: with David.
Speaker 4: Oh you already liked him and that's very sweet.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So I was wondering while we were thinking
Speaker 2: about this question, like, isn't so many people meet online?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: Isn't that kind of a blond?
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a whole thing that we kind of in
Speaker 3: our youth we never had to contend with, right we
Speaker 3: But now that's I guess.
Speaker 2: I mean it's kind of blind whether the thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but none of it is because you have social
Speaker 3: media and you can actually look them up. It's not
Speaker 3: blind as in like a visual you can look and
Speaker 3: see what this person presents themselves to look like.
Speaker 1: But it's also curated, right, so it's not like you're
Speaker 1: actually knowing them. But I think what I know from
Speaker 1: the kids, the kids, I know they want to get
Speaker 1: back to a more organic way of meeting because all
Speaker 1: of this online stuff, like I said, it's curated. They're
Speaker 1: putting forth their best, this image, this idea they have
Speaker 1: of themselves. But people are wanting to meet in person again,
Speaker 1: They're wanting to go out, they're doing meetups. They're all
Speaker 1: these apps that are about like meeting in groups. I
Speaker 1: just saw something about there's like it was a it
Speaker 1: was a like a walking club.
Speaker 4: For people to meet, and it's got hundreds of people.
Speaker 1: Now I go and they meet each other because they're
Speaker 1: ready for something more.
Speaker 3: Or mm hmmm. Yeah, I think that sounds like a
Speaker 3: better way to do it, right, I mean back to
Speaker 3: kind of like what it's supposed to be.
Speaker 5: You meet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's what we did. Apparently you have to leave
Speaker 4: the house though, that's the hard part.
Speaker 5: Oh there's.
Speaker 4: Always something you should be able to, like delivery. I
Speaker 4: guess you can, but that would be an escort.
Speaker 3: So you Okay, we've just gone a firefield.
Speaker 5: We have some fan questions. I think we've been Oh good,
Speaker 5: let's trying to get back to right.
Speaker 3: Sometimes we forget and we get off on a tangent.
Speaker 3: But there were some fan questions about well, right on
Speaker 3: the heels of our episode about a photo shoot. We
Speaker 3: had some fan questions about photoshoots.
Speaker 2: We've done a lot of them for the show.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like if we if we remembered any in particular,
Speaker 3: and what are our memories about our photoshoots that we did.
Speaker 1: We've talked about the one for I think it was
Speaker 1: was it interview magazine where we were all out in
Speaker 1: the desert somewhere and it was an entire weekend from
Speaker 1: like six am to eight pm both days.
Speaker 4: Do you remember that? And you and Grant were on
Speaker 4: a motorcycle?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, do.
Speaker 4: You remember that one?
Speaker 2: I don't think I do.
Speaker 4: I bet I have that somewhere in mine. I should
Speaker 4: go look for some.
Speaker 5: If it was first season, then I don't remember it.
Speaker 5: I didn't. I wasn't in any in the first season.
Speaker 4: You know. It came to my mind.
Speaker 1: Remember the one we did for Entertainment Weekly, the reunion one.
Speaker 5: The reunion shoot is fresher in our memory.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then we all had cell phones and that's
Speaker 1: where we all exchange numbers.
Speaker 5: It was so nice to reach out.
Speaker 4: I were connected today, isn't that sweet?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 2: That was a great one. That's when we were all
Speaker 2: in black and we had a right and we have
Speaker 2: a fig picture of the three of.
Speaker 3: Us kind of like it was such a it was
Speaker 3: such a nice experience, sort of like older grown ups, like, yes,
Speaker 3: you know, being that like because our photo shoots when
Speaker 3: we were on this show, and it was crazy and
Speaker 3: we were already exhausted and we were shooting these things
Speaker 3: on our weekends. You know, and there's just kind of
Speaker 3: like a lot of stress and pressure around it trying
Speaker 3: to have eight nine, you know, ten people in a
Speaker 3: photo shoot, or sometimes when it was just the women,
Speaker 3: even like it's just a lot of women and five
Speaker 3: women or whatever.
Speaker 5: But there it's just a little bit stressful.
Speaker 3: There's a high pressure and getting everybody you know, into
Speaker 3: the right wardrobe, and there's a time crunch and everything.
Speaker 5: They're a little bit stressful. And for some reason, the.
Speaker 3: One that was a reunion shoot in two thousand and whatever,
Speaker 3: that was twelve two thousand and nine something like that, whatever,
Speaker 3: the twenty fifth reunion issue was, it was we were
Speaker 3: just not as pressured.
Speaker 5: It just felt a lot more relaxed.
Speaker 2: Were grown up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that that iconic the Rolling Stone cover the.
Speaker 4: And that was like time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the five women on that And that's
Speaker 3: a photograph that kind of reappears a lot. Is like
Speaker 3: it was a really cool thing to be on the
Speaker 3: cover of Rolling Stone magazine And the headline or that
Speaker 3: or that caption for the photo was Melrose Place bod Squad.
Speaker 4: Remember that, the bod Squad?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember I said this last time, and you said,
Speaker 2: let's wait with Courtney here. It was so stressful. Do
Speaker 2: you remember that, court I do. It was very horrible,
Speaker 2: and it was horrible. It was so stressful. There's a
Speaker 2: true story behind it. I don't know if I'm going
Speaker 2: to out it here or not, but at any rate,
Speaker 2: we got to do a lot of different shots and
Speaker 2: I thought it was fun and creative, but there was.
Speaker 3: And there were shots on the insight some inside photos too, right, Yeah, it.
Speaker 1: Just felt I think as we were so young, it
Speaker 1: just felt so intense. And when we met again as adults, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's all in perspective, like there was so much attention
Speaker 1: on us.
Speaker 4: There was so much pressure on us.
Speaker 1: Now it's like, oh, you know, you wish you could
Speaker 1: go back and just do it with the lightness we
Speaker 1: have now right that we know we have a better
Speaker 1: sense of what's important.
Speaker 4: Then there was so much intensity.
Speaker 1: Yeah, honest, at that time, I have it in a
Speaker 1: much better place, you know.
Speaker 2: I think also, you guys, that intensity didn't come from
Speaker 2: us necessarily. It came from the people behind us. It
Speaker 2: came from like our representatives and like you know, your
Speaker 2: publicists were there and your managers are there, and everyone
Speaker 2: has like an agenda that you are just doing a
Speaker 2: shoot and working with like, you know, your friends that
Speaker 2: you like, all of us got along, all of us
Speaker 2: really liked each other. And then I just felt like
Speaker 2: the soup got so mixed with the photographer and they
Speaker 2: have an ego and the magazine wants a certain thing,
Speaker 2: and the costumer and this and that and.
Speaker 1: The other thing, and I just thought like, yeah, and
Speaker 1: I can't think about how different it was when we
Speaker 1: did our photo shoot for this podcast, and how late
Speaker 1: it was, and it's just us and we're making our
Speaker 1: own calls, we're driving ourselves, we're exchanging clothes, Like how
Speaker 1: fun that was?
Speaker 3: You guys, We've gone from being the bod Squad to
Speaker 3: now being the pod Squad. I love it, Aura, I
Speaker 3: like the Pod Squad. It's super like happy, relaxing and
Speaker 3: super not streff. But you're right, daffl Like there was
Speaker 3: always kind of an agenda from people in the shoot,
Speaker 3: like people's managers or whatever that we weren't necessarily even
Speaker 3: aware of that. It's just all kind of being orchestrated
Speaker 3: behind us, and we don't even know all this stuff
Speaker 3: that's going on, and so that that sort of stressful
Speaker 3: feeling is just kind of behind you going on in
Speaker 3: the background, and we're just like, I just want to,
Speaker 3: you know, have this look good, and I just want
Speaker 3: to do what I'm told and whatever. But there's kind
Speaker 3: of these agendas that are you're not even always aware
Speaker 3: of what's going on.
Speaker 2: Courtney and I were was a fold over cover, and
Speaker 2: Corty and I were on the back side of the
Speaker 2: fold over when it came out, except I said for years.
Speaker 2: I said, well, my elbow is on the actual cover,
Speaker 2: but I am on the cover almost. And then I
Speaker 2: remember it was because the three of you, you, Josie
Speaker 2: and Laura, You, Josie and Amanda all were like wearing
Speaker 2: very skimpy white things and we will like had more
Speaker 2: a little more fabric or something. So maybe it was that,
Speaker 2: or maybe it was your manager or whatever. And then
Speaker 2: I remember Mark Seliger coming up to me afterwards, are
Speaker 2: calling me we saw each other somewhere, the photographer and
Speaker 2: just saying, you know, we always have this, he said,
Speaker 2: there were there were, you know, agendas, but he's like,
Speaker 2: I had this with you too. I had this with
Speaker 2: like Bruce Fringstein in the East Street band. We do this,
Speaker 2: you know, this is always an.
Speaker 4: Issue, Like he had like a group.
Speaker 2: He sees the photograph as a cover period and he
Speaker 2: shoots these iconic you know, Rolling Stone, these these band
Speaker 2: members all the time, and it always is a little
Speaker 2: funky because you can't fit them all on like this.
Speaker 2: You know, you'd all have to be like this or something.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have all these like all these voices. It's important.
Speaker 4: It's important, it's important.
Speaker 1: And now I get a perspective to go it's not important, right,
Speaker 1: Like it was so long, but we remember most people
Speaker 1: don't remember it, and you look at it now to
Speaker 1: have this perspective of that's not what's important. Like, what's
Speaker 1: important to me about this podcast is it the three
Speaker 1: of us get to get together and hang out all
Speaker 1: the time, Like it's so much fun. I have such
Speaker 1: a better perspective on what's important. And even then it's
Speaker 1: like in a used to joys. It's not brain surgery,
Speaker 1: but it felt like it in that moment it was.
Speaker 1: There was so much intensity put on it.
Speaker 2: And when we were young, all those we think that
Speaker 2: all these are the powers that be, and the stakes
Speaker 2: are so high, and they're really we're ponds. They're kind
Speaker 2: of just telling us where to go and do this,
Speaker 2: and you know, you're just doing it because you're selling
Speaker 2: the show, and you know, and.
Speaker 3: I think we all have a framed copy of the
Speaker 3: entire photo, which to me, like my memory of it
Speaker 3: is the photo which is all five of us just
Speaker 3: in a line.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 3: The problem with the magazine cover is it's not big
Speaker 3: enough to fit all five, so somebody got folded in
Speaker 3: the in the inside. But like I like, I have
Speaker 3: that rolling stone picture which is the five of us.
Speaker 3: It's a photo just it's the framed thing that they
Speaker 3: gave us, you know, which I think is the way
Speaker 3: I remember it now, is just like it's the photo
Speaker 3: of all five of us, and I love it.
Speaker 2: You would you were in the middle on the cover,
Speaker 2: but I'm seeing the photo on the wall.
Speaker 5: It's like a whole thing.
Speaker 3: I'm totally fair, Like you have a different experience of
Speaker 3: That's totally fair.
Speaker 5: But like I love that.
Speaker 3: Photo itself as like all five, like the photo.
Speaker 4: Is, Daphne says it full. Daphne has it folded the
Speaker 4: other way.
Speaker 2: You guys looking very love lovingly at each other, Do
Speaker 2: you remember that, Like they were just like drape over
Speaker 2: each other.
Speaker 5: It was all about well, that's.
Speaker 4: What I'm saying, Like it was this intensity.
Speaker 1: Now you look at you go, oh that I that
Speaker 1: I gave any of my life force to worrying about
Speaker 1: that seems so insane today, but I remember how intense
Speaker 1: it felt and how competitive it felt. Now it's like,
Speaker 1: I love, but I'm just saying I love the dichotomy
Speaker 1: of that yeah podcast shoot, and how loving and fun
Speaker 1: and light and easy it was.
Speaker 4: How different we are today, how much was grown up.
Speaker 3: We can we can drape ourselves over each other now
Speaker 3: it will just be the and it's just the.
Speaker 2: For next season, We're gonna have a new photo. It's gonna, yeah,
Speaker 2: dripping all over each other. I liked the Vanity Fair
Speaker 2: shoot that we did. We did a two page spread
Speaker 2: with Annie Leebowitz. I really loved that.
Speaker 4: Is that a poker one?
Speaker 3: No poker was poker, Rolling Stone on the poker was
Speaker 3: inside rolling Stone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this was We're all on a bed because that's
Speaker 2: what they did with the Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's for the entire decade.
Speaker 5: And we all squeezed in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we all squeezed in. But I just
Speaker 2: liked her Annie Leebowitz, and was felt so.
Speaker 3: Honored to be Yeah, but a special experience to be
Speaker 3: able to shoot with her and do some of those things.
Speaker 1: Got a lot of cool things, right, Like I remember
Speaker 1: going to the super Bowl super bowls coming up. I
Speaker 1: remember going on a private plane, yeah, the super Bowl.
Speaker 4: Because they just like, do you want to go?
Speaker 1: And I was like all right, like yeah, I didn't
Speaker 1: have the idea how special it was. Like I'm like,
Speaker 1: I wish some would do that now when I have
Speaker 1: a kid, right, Like, it would be so much fun
Speaker 1: to take my kid on that. But he missed that whole. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: he says, I know, I know you're big in the nineties.
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter with the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Doesn't matter how much you tell them, and like haul
Speaker 2: out the photos and the magazines that are all browned
Speaker 2: around the edges. It just doesn't matter.
Speaker 5: They do, I know, like.
Speaker 2: Old timey newsprint, because the nineties were two decades before.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So for those of you just coming to Still the Place,
Speaker 3: the pod squad here, we were a really big deal.
Speaker 5: Just in case, and if you forget, we'll tell you again.
Speaker 1: We never shut up about it, so get so photographs
Speaker 1: out there.
Speaker 3: We're just we're just happy that you're coming and that
Speaker 3: you're listening to Still the Place and We're always going
Speaker 3: to be here to make fun of ourselves, and we're
Speaker 3: so grateful that you're coming and listening to our episodes
Speaker 3: every week, and we'll be back next week with more
Speaker 3: silliness the best.
Speaker 1: All right, guys, love, thank you everybody for listening.
Speaker 4: Okay, I see you guys as always, be soon.
Speaker 1: Bye,