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Speaker 1: Hey, there, folks. It was one year ago this week.

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Speaker 1: Robot and I were on our way to iHeart Studios

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Speaker 1: in Manhattan to meet and interview a reality TV star,

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Speaker 1: And honestly, we were excited and a little nervous to

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Speaker 1: meet her because all we knew of her was what

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Speaker 1: we'd seen on the show. And on the show, let's

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Speaker 1: just say she's a handful. But she not just won

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Speaker 1: us over, she wowed us and even warmed our hearts.

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Speaker 1: Her name Taylor Frankie Paul. So imagine our delight in

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Speaker 1: finding out this week she's the new bachelorette. Fellas, God

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Speaker 1: bless you, and with that, welcome to this episode of

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Speaker 1: Amy and TJ. What the actual hell Taylor Frankie Paul

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Speaker 1: is the new bachelorette? The show is going a different direction.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that was jaw dropping, to be honest, Yes, we

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Speaker 2: loved her, and mostly because she's just her authentic, messy

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Speaker 2: self and I think we all have versions of that.

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Speaker 2: Hers might be a little extreme and on display for

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Speaker 2: the world to see. But you are talking about a

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Speaker 2: young woman, she's thirty one, who is a single mom

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Speaker 2: of three kids. She has very much said, I have

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Speaker 2: two baby daddies, she has one divorce, and she was

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Speaker 2: made famous and kind of thrust into this reality world

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Speaker 2: and offered a show because of a soft swinging situation

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Speaker 2: she had with her first husband where she would have

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Speaker 2: sex with friends with him having sex with their wives

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Speaker 2: in beds right next to each other. So yes, this

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Speaker 2: is a departure from other choices for a bachelorette.

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Speaker 1: Okay, and look, The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives a

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Speaker 1: breakaway hit on Hulu and that is how when they

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Speaker 1: approached us and wanted us to possibly interview her and

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Speaker 1: another cast member. We had to get caught up and

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Speaker 1: we watch the show. I think yes, we had several episodes.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure if we binged it or they send

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Speaker 1: us the episodes to what.

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Speaker 3: We've sent us about.

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Speaker 2: I think three episodes in advance of the release of

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Speaker 2: the series.

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Speaker 1: Okay, do you remember your impressions of her initially in

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Speaker 1: watching the show.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I thought she was wild. I thought she was

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Speaker 3: just she was I thought she was one of those.

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Speaker 2: Women who I probably would have veered away from because

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Speaker 2: of the drama.

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Speaker 3: She is a she.

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Speaker 2: Attracts a lot of drama, but she's a lot of

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Speaker 2: fun to be around, and she's sweet, and she's wild

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Speaker 3: Fun to watch. I don't know how much fun I

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Speaker 3: would have thought she would have been to be friends with.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that was impression in watching the show, and I'm

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Speaker 1: with you. She was just a little Tasmanian devil to

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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of ways. And yes, there

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Speaker 1: was so much drama surrounding her, whether she brought her

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Speaker 1: telling you, it was a whole new world and a

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Speaker 1: whole new her. I'm not saying she's putting on on

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Speaker 1: an authenticity with her that actually I think is coming

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Speaker 1: and yeah, she's still a young woman. She could admit

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Speaker 1: But I think the thing about her that you and

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Speaker 1: I certainly appreciated and respect it was just her being

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Speaker 2: The time we have with and I do think she

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Speaker 2: I believe at that point was a year sober, because

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Speaker 2: she had come off facing charges and she pleaded out

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Speaker 2: in some way to aggravated assault, and that all stemmed

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Speaker 2: But she had hit rock bottom, so to speak, on

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Speaker 2: her worst behavior, I guess, and was all being held

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Speaker 2: for some people, I'm sure. But when you go through

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Speaker 3: But she also still had that spark, that energy.

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Speaker 2: That fun, cute, sweet hopeful energy of doing better and

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Speaker 3: It led her to.

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Speaker 2: Exactly where she was right then a year ago, sitting

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Speaker 1: A joy, optimism and in someone you have to appreciate

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Speaker 1: and then you throw into it. Yes, she is. She

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Speaker 1: has the personality to boot. She's a hoot. So that

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Speaker 1: show is a hit, hit show for Hulu, which is

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Speaker 1: owned by Disney. Bachelorette is a sinking, sinking, nearly dying show.

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Speaker 1: Somewhat argue on ABC, which is owned by Disney. So

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Speaker 1: what should we do here, robes If we as a

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Speaker 1: company have reality show gold over here and a waning

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Speaker 1: reality show over here, how could we possibly make this work?

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Speaker 3: And this is absolutely a ratings grab.

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Speaker 2: And a lot of folks point to the fact that

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Speaker 2: this is a ratings stunt because the Bachelorette and Disney,

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Speaker 2: we know it well. They are a conservative brand, so

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Speaker 2: to speak. And this has been a show about marriage.

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Speaker 2: This has been a show that hasn't just been about

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Speaker 1: And I think I want to make sure. I think

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Speaker 1: you were saying conservative terms, not politics, polactics, not pushing

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Speaker 3: Correct.

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Speaker 2: This is broadcast television. This isn't cable. There aren't f

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Speaker 2: bombs flying. There aren't sexual scandals.

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Speaker 3: That are being lauded.

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Speaker 2: This isn't that's not what this show has been about

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Speaker 2: that you know, we think about reality show on Bravo

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Speaker 2: or on Yes Hulu, on all of these streaming networks,

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Speaker 1: So this is controversies they have been at. Any time

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Speaker 1: they freak out exactly.

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Speaker 2: So they are inviting a walking controversy and certainly goes

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Speaker 2: against When I say conservative, I also mean values.

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Speaker 3: So you know, you've got somebody who was a.

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Speaker 2: Swinger who actually told everyone else about her swinging. It

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Speaker 2: wasn't as if she found out she decided to tell

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Speaker 2: everyone about it. She's been divorced, she's been in a

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Speaker 2: a massive departure and they will get a lot of

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Speaker 2: eyeballs because there are huge fans of Mormon Wives, and

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Speaker 2: they'll be watching just to watch Taylor Frankie Paul do

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Speaker 2: her thing because she is going to be entertaining.

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Speaker 1: And this is not a criticism of what they're doing. Now,

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Speaker 1: I knock yourselves out. Do whatever you want to do

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Speaker 1: when it comes to ratings, and a lot of people

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Speaker 1: will say this is a brilliant idea. It does tell

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Speaker 1: you we're changing the Bachelorette franchise. That's okay. They are

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Speaker 1: trying to keep up the Bachelorette with streaming dating shows

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Speaker 1: that have taken off and raise the bar when it

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Speaker 1: comes to how RAUNCHI you can get. The Bachelorette is

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Speaker 1: rated G compared to triple X of some of the

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Speaker 1: stuff we're watching on streaming. Who wants to watch the

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Speaker 1: Bachelorette and everybody be all sweet and get out of

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Speaker 1: their limos and do all this When I can go

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Speaker 1: watch these hot bodied people make out and then go

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Speaker 1: fight about it. She is that and so I have

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Speaker 1: no problem if they want to make the ratings grab.

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Speaker 1: I am I guess disappointed because we have had a

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Speaker 1: including a lot of people who have been on those

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Speaker 1: shows in one way or anothering that we consider friends.

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Speaker 1: We have actually spent a lot of time with Trista

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Speaker 1: struggles and their real love and how they have been

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Speaker 1: fighting and to stay together in twenty years? How many

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Speaker 1: three kids? Teenagers? All, I'm like, wow, I love that

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Speaker 1: this is not a show about finding love and engagement

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Speaker 1: at the end anymore. And that's okay too.

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Speaker 2: But they're not saying that publicly. Bachelorette is not, and

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Speaker 2: certainly this is a show about marriage.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they do tout.

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Speaker 2: The relationships and the babies that have been made in

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Speaker 2: to acknowledge here that this is about entertainment, this is

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Speaker 2: less about I mean, I'm going to be the cynic

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Speaker 2: here and nothing against Taylor Frankie Paul because we absolutely

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Speaker 2: enjoy her, love her and wish for the best. But

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Speaker 2: do you genuinely think she's on this show to find

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Speaker 1: No, because even in the Disney press release it said

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Speaker 1: she is ready to trade headline making heartbreak for hometown

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Speaker 2: Nation, making her mark. So they're acknowledging it in that

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Speaker 2: press conference that this isn't about her trying to find love,

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Speaker 2: trying to find mister Wright, We're.

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Speaker 1: About to put on a show with somebody that you

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Speaker 3: That's okay, that's okay, that's okay.

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Speaker 2: But I and you're right if the Bachelorette fan base

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Speaker 2: for love, a woman actually looking to settle down and

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Speaker 2: find a man. And to your point that we were

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Speaker 2: talking about before we jumped onto the microphones, these men,

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Speaker 2: how many men are actually looking for a woman where

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Speaker 2: they have to move to the state of Utah because

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Speaker 2: she's made that very very clear that she will not.

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Speaker 2: And I get that with her kids, and she said,

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Speaker 2: because I don't have just one baby daddy, I have

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Speaker 2: you're saying you're gonna get an eligible group of men

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Speaker 2: are very very young. One I believe her kids are one, five,

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Speaker 3: Willingly?

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Speaker 1: You on paper would never say that's what you are

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Speaker 1: looking for? Obviously, But this rose you bring up is

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Speaker 1: going to be a very important point in conversation and

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Speaker 1: a sensitive one around this dating show. What's wrong with

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Speaker 1: dating a woman who is once divorced, has three kids,

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Speaker 1: has this stuff going on to where we are, we

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Speaker 1: might get some insight into saying that's okay. It's like

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Speaker 1: it's okay to date someone who's been divorced, and generally

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Speaker 1: we know that. But normally, and you're looking at your

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Speaker 1: you know what, it would be a turnoff if you

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Speaker 2: So from a marketing standpoint, this is full excitement. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Of and this is not an insult in any way,

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Speaker 3: So for that, I do love that Taylor Frankie Paul.

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Speaker 2: Yes, would he be would he be given the opportunity

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Speaker 2: an agreement she has with her ex husband. I'm guessing

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Speaker 2: where she has chosen not to or is required not

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Speaker 2: to have them on Mormon Wives. So I'm sure we

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Speaker 2: won't see them on the Bachelor. But it's a reality

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Speaker 2: of her life that whoever this guy is would have

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Speaker 2: to accept, and she said that is the number one

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Speaker 2: thing she says she's looking for in a man is

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Speaker 2: how he treats other people. But right there is how

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Speaker 2: he's going to treat her children. Obviously.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. It's just and a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: are signing up. And I wanted to mention that the

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Speaker 1: they're casting right now, but the casting call they've now

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Speaker 1: put it in the hands of the same folks who

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Speaker 1: do the Bravo shows. They've changed. They have brought in

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Speaker 1: the people who cast. Yes, the real house who cast

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Speaker 1: those shows are now casting.

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Speaker 2: So it's casting instead of contestants. I mean that really

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Speaker 2: is now probably a better way to put it. I'm

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Speaker 2: just saying, because you're not asking for contestants who want

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Speaker 2: to be her fiance or even her husband.

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Speaker 3: They're looking for casting tomato tomata.

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Speaker 1: Isn't that just something they say? But to your point there,

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Speaker 1: I'm now looking down at the exact text of what

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Speaker 1: they sent out as a casting call, and it does

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Speaker 1: say now casting single men for the Bachelorette Season twenty

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Speaker 1: two with Taylor Frankie Paul. If you or a friend

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Speaker 1: are interested, email Wildside that blah blah blah, blah blah

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Speaker 1: blah blah blah, and be sure to mention wildside media

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Speaker 1: preferred you. Yeah, so it's they're casting.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess do they? Oh I don't know this.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember because, honestly, to the credit of ABC,

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Speaker 2: Disney all of that in their marketing team, I don't

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Speaker 2: remember actually knowing whether or not. And we were at

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Speaker 2: ABC's we were in Bachelor Nation and promoting this through

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Speaker 2: Good Morning America for years and years and years. But

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Speaker 2: I guess do they always put out who the bachelorette

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Speaker 2: is and like dangle her and say hey, if you

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Speaker 2: want to be cast on the.

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Speaker 3: Show with her?

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Speaker 2: Or do they do it all at the same time.

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Speaker 2: Do they cast men who want to find love and

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Speaker 2: cast the bacherette all the same time or is this

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Speaker 2: different where they're now dangling literally the bachelorette.

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Speaker 1: We should know this. I should know this because usually

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Speaker 1: you know what's what? Aren't Usually we find out about

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Speaker 1: the new bachelor or bachelorette right after the other show.

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Speaker 1: It's the one who ends up in sealing.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you're right.

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Speaker 2: So the contestants or now cast members know who the

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Speaker 2: bachelorette is ahead of time, so they can decide, Hm,

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Speaker 2: that's somebody who I might want to date.

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Speaker 1: So it's rare that they have a contestant that comes

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Speaker 1: from outside Bachelor.

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Speaker 3: That makes sense.

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Speaker 1: I think Matt was from outside. He hadn't been on

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Speaker 1: a preview.

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Speaker 3: He's best friends with Tyler. Is it Tyler? What's his name? Matheson?

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Speaker 1: Tyler?

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Speaker 2: No, I'm getting messed up now, Cameron Tyler, Cameron Cameron

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Speaker 2: Matheson and Tyler Cameron Cameron, matthes he's from the soaps.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love him, He's great, love, we love him.

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Speaker 3: Sorry I got those names confused, But.

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Speaker 2: That's how Matt came in because he was on the

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Speaker 2: show because he was best friends with the Bachelor.

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Speaker 1: But it's rare to get someone from out. Yes, technically

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Speaker 1: he was from but yet she is from completely outside.

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Speaker 3: Wait, well but she's in. She's in the ABC family,

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Speaker 3: the Hulu family.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a great opportunity here. I do think

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Speaker 1: it's great. I think she is great, a woman who's

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Speaker 1: made some mistakes. You can have all kinds of feelings

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Speaker 1: about her. She is a polarizing figure, but she is

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Speaker 1: authentic and I think just from our impressions of her,

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Speaker 1: which are just a couple of hours we got this

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Speaker 1: being with her was a delight and authentic person who's

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Speaker 1: is in the right place, who's made some mistakes, who

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Speaker 1: can admit that, and I just I'm absolutely rooting for

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Speaker 1: but I'm also rooting for what a lot of she represents.

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Speaker 1: This is before me getting cynical, but what it represents

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Speaker 1: to show that, yes, most people are out there trying

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Speaker 1: to date with a divorce on the resume, with the

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Speaker 1: kids at the house, juggling a career or whatever else.

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Speaker 1: I am excited about what that can say.

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Speaker 3: I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I am excited about it. And they're going for the

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Speaker 1: ratings way up. Fine. I just hope it doesn't turn

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Speaker 1: into a circus.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what, that's a really good point.

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Speaker 2: I hope it really does show that so many of

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Speaker 2: us are not we didn't get it right, we aren't perfect,

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Speaker 2: and we're still looking for love and we're still worthy

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Speaker 2: of love. And so I think that could be a

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Speaker 2: cool I hope part of this season. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: just in case, I want to let you guys know,

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Speaker 2: if you just look back, I believe it'll be the

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Speaker 2: previous episode from this one. We actually reposted our interview

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Speaker 2: from exactly one year ago this week with Taylor Frankie Paul,

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Speaker 2: before all the Bachelor announcement, before actually she even became

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Speaker 2: the star that she is now. So if you want

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Speaker 2: to hear for herself for yourself who she is and

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Speaker 2: who she was a year ago before all of the

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Speaker 2: fame really followed, encourage you to check that out so

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Speaker 2: you kind of really get to see her and meet

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Speaker 2: her the way we did. So thank you for listening

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Speaker 2: to us.

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Speaker 3: Everyone. I made me Roebuck alongside TJ. Holmes. Have a

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Speaker 3: great day, everybody,