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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 2: Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, they flowing down the sidelines.

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Speaker 1: This He's Hanging with the Boys, presented by Wingstuck Where

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Speaker 1: Flavor Gets its Wings.

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Speaker 3: Now your hosts.

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Speaker 1: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross.

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Speaker 4: Hubday looking live at Tostitos Championship Plaza outside Fort Center

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Speaker 4: at the Star of Frisco, Texas, where there's some pitching

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Speaker 4: tints today. I don't know what's going on, but the

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Speaker 4: tents are pitched. It is eighty five degrees, the high

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Speaker 4: is eighty eight and continuing with the theme of the week,

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Speaker 4: the low sixty nine.

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Speaker 5: He is Nate, he is Shinnon. Chris is in the

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Speaker 5: back along with Josh and Pasica. We are missing the

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Speaker 5: voice of reason today, Salt and Pepper Poppy, but be

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Speaker 5: back tomorrow.

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Speaker 6: I am Kurt.

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Speaker 5: Together we are the sports talk equivalent of Brown Sir,

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Speaker 5: and we.

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Speaker 7: Brought to you GENF show about Wingstop where Flavor Gets

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Speaker 7: its wee.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Yeah, how.

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Speaker 7: Y'all doing today? And dentals were good?

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Speaker 2: Were good?

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Speaker 7: Hurt, You're good?

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Speaker 8: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I think so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm great man, and Jesse is Okay, we'll explain

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Speaker 2: tomorrow a little bit more man about this cat. Yes,

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Speaker 2: you know. Have we talked a lot of that yesterday

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Speaker 2: about thickness and Trayler can Trayler parks and all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden he disappears.

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Speaker 7: We didn't hurt his feelings. Find out when he comes back.

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Speaker 7: We'll do a song for Jesse.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, bringing back the show tomorrow with the song we

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Speaker 4: have a little ditty.

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Speaker 2: Have we told the people that we have an artist.

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Speaker 7: Wrote a song about want to hear here you go?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Chris Beam is an artist and he has several

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Speaker 2: songs that he's put I think he's gonna put together album.

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Speaker 2: He'll soon. When is he gonna When is it gonna break?

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Speaker 8: Man?

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Speaker 2: When you app'm gonna break.

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Speaker 7: We just break it on the show, Break on the show.

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Speaker 7: One single at a time. Yeah, yeah, one single at

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Speaker 7: a time.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna do something different today. Okay, yess he's not here.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna save all the the uh, the offense defense

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Speaker 4: stuff for tomorrow. And we have never I don't think

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Speaker 4: one show in the history of this show, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 4: have ever given Kurt his due.

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Speaker 6: May mean that's a good thing, and followed.

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Speaker 4: His talking points line from the Yes Nat say, we're

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Speaker 4: gonna ask him about all fourteen of his kids.

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Speaker 7: No, Nate came in. He was like, let's do this.

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Speaker 7: Let's do something different, Like, okay, Wen.

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Speaker 5: There's a reason you know, you're the police, you're the

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Speaker 5: gatekeeper on this.

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Speaker 6: Just go down's just.

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Speaker 7: Go down the line. No, it always it all sounds good.

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Speaker 2: It's just it's a Kurt possible ideas. Welcome any ideas.

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Speaker 2: And then he give us ten to what one to

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Speaker 2: how many?

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Speaker 4: Usually between eight and twelve fifteen sometimes, and we we

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Speaker 4: what makes our show different is we don't have a

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Speaker 4: run a show. Kurt gives us ideas and then we

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Speaker 4: just go all over the place. Sometimes we don't hit

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Speaker 4: one item. Sometimes we get to most of them. But

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Speaker 4: I don't think we've ever gone to where we're like, okay,

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Speaker 4: item number one, two, three, I.

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Speaker 2: Want to do that. What tippens before five of them?

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Speaker 2: I want to use up to you both.

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Speaker 7: You know what, Kurt, do you have the you have

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Speaker 7: your list? Why don't you run the show today? You host?

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Speaker 2: Start? Let's do that. Just start number one, start.

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Speaker 7: With number one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll bring us in and out of breaks and

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Speaker 4: do all that. But you fring up the points and

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Speaker 4: I'll be Jesse Vanilla.

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Speaker 2: Jize double meaning.

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Speaker 6: All right, we'll try this.

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Speaker 5: Okay, okay, So four games in month of September, we're

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Speaker 5: a quarter the way through. Cowboys offenses first in yards

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Speaker 4: Well, Kurt, I'm glad you asked, because that's been on

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Speaker 4: my mind all week since the day.

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Speaker 7: Look, here's what I think.

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Speaker 4: I think the way Dak's playing playing out of his mind.

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Speaker 4: He's playing like a top three quarterback. Maybe, hell, he

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Speaker 4: the way he played that game and the decisions he's

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Speaker 4: But when he can't do it every single game, So

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Speaker 4: the games that he slips up, that's where you're gonna

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Speaker 4: have the problem. Like, you can't it's not possible to

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Speaker 4: be perfect. Eighteen weeks of football. He's gonna slip up

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Speaker 4: and you're gonna have to score thirty thirty five forty

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Speaker 4: you're fixing the defense. I don't care what you do,

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Speaker 4: so I don't think you can bring people in. I

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Speaker 4: just I think maybe they'll get better and they'll grow

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Speaker 4: a little bit and they'll hold people to twenty seven.

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Speaker 7: But I don't see them becoming a good defense.

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Speaker 4: I see them staying in the bottom quarter of the league.

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Speaker 5: Instead of being thirty second. Even if they were like twentieth.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it would help, Oh yeah, oh yes, sir. Well,

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Speaker 2: because when you're giving up almost sixty yards more as

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Speaker 2: say a lot. And I'm agreeing with you, Vanilla Jesse.

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Speaker 2: This thing is not go change VJJ, but I mean it.

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Speaker 7: I'll tell you this.

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Speaker 4: I after after the Bears game, I didn't think this

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Speaker 7: This week, I think it's gonna.

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Speaker 4: Be competitive because they're not gonna I think the next

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Speaker 4: be a fun season if you like offense. But if

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Speaker 2: You're gonna be insane, you know. I listened to Braddis

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Speaker 2: on the show a couple of shows before us, and

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Speaker 2: they asked about draft picks and this year here, no,

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Speaker 2: just let it ride this season. If we can't find

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Speaker 4: Hold on to your draft and just go, yes, enjoy

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Speaker 4: the season.

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Speaker 2: Number two, brother, Kurt, let me pull them back up here.

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Speaker 2: Keep it up, keep it up.

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Speaker 7: You ain't got no problem.

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Speaker 5: Well, you just mentioned that they could be in it

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Speaker 5: coming week, So is this okay? The next two games?

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Speaker 5: Is this the turning point of the season. If you

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Speaker 5: lose these two, even if you maybe lose one, Are

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Speaker 5: they cooked? Are they done? Or any chances of having

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Speaker 2: Wins, throwaway wins.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but now this could be it.

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Speaker 2: So you, Jesse, I'll follow up. I agree.

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Speaker 4: If you don't win these two games, I still think

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Speaker 4: they're gonna be competitive. I think it's they're gonna be

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Speaker 4: It's going to be you know, now, can the Jets

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Speaker 4: is what's eating you alive?

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Speaker 2: In two games?

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Speaker 4: A mobile quarterback and your linebackers can't they running quick?

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Speaker 4: I think these are Look, you could you could lose

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Speaker 4: You know what's coming after this, the meat grinder. So

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Speaker 4: I think you gotta win these two.

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Speaker 9: The thing.

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Speaker 2: Like when Jesse and a couple other guys say I'd

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Speaker 2: have went for it. I'd have went for it, And

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Speaker 2: I tried to comeback that my thing is this here,

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Speaker 2: we would have been taking into the Jets right now?

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Speaker 2: And I'm not I don't Gopher ties either win or lose.

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Speaker 2: But over there, what are they thinking?

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Speaker 5: So I would think Schottenheimer he wants any grasp of positivity.

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Speaker 6: Yes, sir, So tie for him is better than the loss.

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Speaker 2: Yes, So these next two games, they are winnable if

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Speaker 2: we can just get two stops in the second half.

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Speaker 2: That's serious. That sounds so pathetic. No, no, no, listen, stops.

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you why. Because when they wasn't in

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Speaker 2: a touchdown that may give our defense, you know what,

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Speaker 5: Of course, we haven't scored in the second half on

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Speaker 6: So changed that.

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Speaker 2: Break, that break that just when we thought we had

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Speaker 7: Trying to talk us out of it. The voice that's

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Speaker 7: that chair, that's the chair.

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Speaker 5: Yeah wow, okay, number three. So we're looking at this

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Speaker 5: zero to four Jets team. Three of those losses have

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Speaker 2: Well, the film that I've seen offense defensive I've seen

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Speaker 5: Not a consistent pass rushing backers are struggling. Yes, it

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Speaker 7: A few coaches in the league I would not want

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Speaker 2: He would be a Dan Cama Beasy with his voice

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Speaker 7: All right, Kurt, go ahead, give us one more number four.

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Speaker 5: Last year, the Dallas defense is one of the worst

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Speaker 2: I always build from the middle, Always build from the middle. Uh.

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Speaker 2: Now uh now, now you're you know you're in a buying,

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Speaker 2: And did you think that our secondary would be in shambles? No,

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Speaker 5: It just seems like now last year they were giving

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Speaker 7: Would you I would?

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Speaker 4: I think I would rather have a although it's not

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess it's to me because it's football, and

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Speaker 7: Wear them out in third quarter, just run, run, run,

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Speaker 4: And it's it's just like watching this past defense is tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: I don't know of course, this is such a pass

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Speaker 7: Got for is Kurt? What's number five?

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Speaker 5: Number five on the list? And I'm interested in all

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Speaker 5: But UH, Pro Football Focus, you guys know, I visit

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Speaker 5: all the time. They have Dallas ranked third and run

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Speaker 2: That is the new NFL make everything look the same? Uh?

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Speaker 2: That's the you know, pay action pass. That word has

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Speaker 2: in some more positional leverage. Are you trying to stay

444
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 2: between your quarterback more athletic a guy that is more athletic. Movie,

445
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Speaker 2: you gotta kind of wait on a guy to see

446
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Speaker 2: where he going, Whereas it's run blocking a lot of times,

447
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Speaker 2: unless they slanting certain ways, you can dictate what happens

448
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Speaker 2: to him. He's reading you, whereas with the past, I'm

449
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Speaker 2: reading you. Now you coming off the end, I'm reading you.

450
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Speaker 2: Especially if I jump way out, I'm giving you two

451
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Speaker 2: ways to go, you know, That's why I love the

452
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Speaker 2: concluon effect up there with the guards, the centers. He

453
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Speaker 2: ain't got much room to jump around up and now

454
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Speaker 2: so but on them tackles.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, And I would think most linemen would prefer run blocking.

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, because if I can lay my hands on

457
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Speaker 2: you and you and uh, you can be physical and

458
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 2: past blocking too, But in run blocking, uh, you get

459
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Speaker 2: a chance to just let him feel your strength and

460
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Speaker 2: your power over and over a game. Like they wore

461
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Speaker 2: Parsons down by just continuing to hitting him, hitting him,

462
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Speaker 2: hitting him at the end of the game, even though

463
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Speaker 2: he got that sack at the end. Uh, that kid

464
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Speaker 2: was worn down. I promise he went to sleep that

465
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Speaker 2: night back on the plane. He probably ate him some

466
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Speaker 2: cottage cheese and went to.

467
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Speaker 5: Street well having they got a defense decent run game

468
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Speaker 5: going down this year with Williams. I mean, how much

469
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Speaker 5: is he helping just that run game with the I've

470
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Speaker 5: been impressed with how he seems patient with setting up

471
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Speaker 5: blocks and on that.

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Speaker 2: And you know the thing that he he don't run

473
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Speaker 2: you over fully. He always half he's half man. He's

474
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Speaker 2: he's not taking the pounding people are thinking, you know,

475
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Speaker 2: like Earl Campbell, Earl Campb. He used to be all

476
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Speaker 2: or nothing with Earl. But this guy, he always sliding

477
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Speaker 2: off of you, always spinning off of you. When he's

478
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Speaker 2: when he see he has that advantage, he'll lay that

479
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Speaker 2: big oldhead on you. But now he just he understands

480
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Speaker 2: his blocking scheme and he's doing a great job. But

481
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Speaker 2: like I said, I think he's being under used, and

482
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Speaker 2: maybe coach saying, hey, this is a long season. I

483
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Speaker 2: gotta protect Dak. So there's maybe some games, but I

484
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Speaker 2: don't have to give it to him twenty five, twenty

485
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Speaker 2: six times. Right now you're averaging around by nineteen twenty carries.

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Speaker 7: That isn't it crazy?

487
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Speaker 4: How that that was the main focal point of in

488
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Speaker 4: training camp, Like we don't have a run game, we

489
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Speaker 4: don't have a running back. This is the biggest deal.

490
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Speaker 4: That's been the brightest spot on the team. Is like

491
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Speaker 4: Dak's playing the running game. And then everything you thought

492
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Speaker 4: was good the secondary, Oh, we gonna be dron Bland

493
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Speaker 4: his back.

494
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Speaker 7: And Trayvonsy will be bad.

495
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Speaker 4: We're good linebackers, we got Liu foul, we got some newcomers.

496
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Speaker 7: We're gonna be good. And then man, what a difference

497
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Speaker 7: four games can make hu.

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Speaker 5: That's for sure, all right, Number six. We'll stay with

499
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Speaker 5: the offensive line here. So Guiden might not play this weekend.

500
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Speaker 5: He's had a concussion late in the gainings in the

501
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Speaker 5: protocol that shot numbers said it's possible. Still, he's struggling

502
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Speaker 5: this year again. Pro football Vocus has him marked sixty

503
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Speaker 5: to seven out of seventy three tackles. So one, what

504
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Speaker 5: did you think of Nate Thomas when he got in there?

505
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Speaker 5: And is it time to give him a chance at more?

506
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Speaker 2: You have another choice? Guiden has been better? Is he

507
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Speaker 2: played up to the level where we think most of

508
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Speaker 2: our past first rounders that played, No, he hasn't. But

509
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Speaker 2: he's gotten better. He seemed to be a lot more

510
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:06,440
Speaker 2: confident and he's much more physical than he was last year.

511
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Speaker 2: He still has a wage to go and I just

512
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Speaker 2: hate when he missed games because that's a rep taken

513
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Speaker 2: away from him. But Nate Thomas, he played okay last week.

514
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Speaker 2: He played left and right tackle. So you imagine if

515
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 2: he can get sixty snaps at one one deal and

516
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: they see, okay, is this really a competition? Is can

517
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Speaker 2: we really put a little bit more pressure on our

518
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Speaker 2: offensive tackles fellas. I'm gonna say this right here. I

519
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 2: haven't seen guys have snaps taken away from them since Jimmy.

520
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Speaker 2: I mean, we saw where Diggs had a few snaps

521
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 2: taken away, and maybe it was playing that way. I

522
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 2: don't know what the trainers or something, but you see

523
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 2: our linebackers, you know we're seeing them. Yeah, Sam Williams

524
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: taking right out of the game immediately.

525
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Speaker 7: You like that.

526
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Speaker 2: I like yeah, because it's mister Jones for the first

527
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Speaker 2: time in a very long time, and Steven and all

528
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Speaker 2: of those guys and will they letting this guy coach.

529
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Speaker 2: You know, don't make him a liar. Hey, man, I

530
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: got your back, I got you covered. Do what I

531
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Speaker 2: asked you to do. You gonna play? Then all of

532
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Speaker 2: a sudden, Yeah, I got you back. I got you covered.

533
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Speaker 2: But you don't have to do what I say. Yeah,

534
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Speaker 2: now you got to do what the coach say. You know,

535
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Speaker 2: you got you gotta. I don't care if you're the

536
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Speaker 2: best one on one man in the world, and I'm

537
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Speaker 2: being honest, if that man, leave you over there by

538
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Speaker 2: yourself and tell you by yourself. You got this deep

539
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Speaker 2: third by yourself, and you up there pressing and miss

540
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Speaker 2: and fall on the ground and we give up a

541
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Speaker 2: touchdown when all you had to do was turn and

542
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Speaker 2: run and make sure this man catched this ball underneath

543
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Speaker 2: you left. We'll at least have a second chance that

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Speaker 2: Who do you care about?

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Speaker 5: You?

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Speaker 2: What you want to do, what's best for the team.

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Speaker 5: I'm surprised that Thomas winning at right tackle, like you

548
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Speaker 5: said for Steel, I think I was just kind of

549
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Speaker 5: giving Steal a break or something going on.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. Like I said, that play action pass,

551
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Speaker 2: which you've always heard me say, Stell is a play

552
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Speaker 2: as I just wish that we had a steady enough

553
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Speaker 2: defense that we could run the ball thirty five times.

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Speaker 2: Just a steady enough defense. Because we could run the

555
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Speaker 2: ball thirty five times, that's gonna save Dak and that's

556
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: definitely gonna save our tackles. But you have to play

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Speaker 2: the game. I has played shoot out.

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Speaker 6: Three more?

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Speaker 4: rules Kurt, we have eight Well, we have thirteen minutes

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Speaker 4: to get three questions.

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Speaker 7: I think we can do it.

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Speaker 6: Oh, I think I think we pull it off.

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Speaker 5: Fine, we'll be funn These are all sort of related.

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Speaker 7: So actually four questions?

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Speaker 6: Oh, that's right.

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Speaker 2: Four.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, it's okay. I forgot about seven over looked, Okay,

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Speaker 5: number seven. Then I mentioned to see, how do you think?

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Speaker 6: Right now?

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Speaker 5: Jake Ferguson has the most catches by any tight end

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Speaker 5: in NFL history after four games, crazy thirty four. But

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Speaker 5: he also has the lowest yards per catch average in

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Speaker 5: the league among tight ends right now, six point six yards.

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Speaker 5: Do you like the way they're using him? Is there

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Speaker 5: a way to maybe get him more yarded? Just all

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Speaker 5: these little dump offs.

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Speaker 2: It's part of the run game. He is actively a

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Speaker 2: part of the run game. You know. Get the ball

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Speaker 2: out of that hand, try to find some rhythm. Make

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Speaker 2: these guys rush. It's kind of like they rushing for nothing.

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Speaker 2: When you get the ball out of your hand that quick.

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Speaker 2: Devins Lineman hate that they get five steps in all

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Speaker 2: of a sudden the ball gone. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of disheartening. Uh So I see what coach's

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Speaker 2: trying to do. Now I'm thinking that what he's trying

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Speaker 2: to do. Uh Like I said, you know, he broke

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Speaker 2: the average and called a ten yard touchdown fast. But

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Speaker 2: you know, but I think it's part of his run game.

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Speaker 2: I think it's to him throwing to the backside of

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Speaker 2: the backfield. I think they's just part of the run game.

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Speaker 2: And keep it going, keep some type of rhythm going,

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Speaker 2: eat up some clock.

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Speaker 6: You know you guys like that.

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Speaker 2: Me personally, I would like to see eight or nine

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Speaker 2: yards because that that you know, that that that always

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Speaker 2: keeps you in manageable down in distance. But sometimes you

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Speaker 2: catch it two or three yards. That's that's scary because

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Speaker 2: you know, it puts a lot of pressure on your

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Speaker 2: quarterback to make a bigger play next time.

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Speaker 4: Not like you, Kurt, you want to know why tell

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Speaker 4: us because it's working. Whatever you're doing right now. Don't

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Speaker 4: change anything on offense. But it's worked even without CD, Like,

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Speaker 4: you got guys stepping up, you got a run game. Finally, Hey,

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Speaker 4: guess what they can score in the red zone this year.

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Speaker 7: You know how long it's been since we've been able

663
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 7: to score in the red zone.

664
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,200
Speaker 4: Now, if they can just score on the first possession

665
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 4: of the game and get some momentum going, like like,

666
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 4: don't fall behind, and then get it to where you

667
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,240
Speaker 4: can use that run game and run down the clock

668
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 4: and wear those guys out that way when Dak really needs.

669
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:19,960
Speaker 7: To air it out.

670
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 4: You know, the defense on the other side is exhausted,

671
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 4: like whatever they're doing. Yeah, would it be great if

672
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,759
Speaker 4: they stretch the field a little bit with ferguson. But

673
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 4: you got CD, you got pickings, you got turping, you

674
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 4: got those guys that can do that. Keep doing what

675
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 4: you're doing, man, keep this rhythm going. It's fun to watch.

676
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 4: Dak's getting the ball, like you said, getting the ball out.

677
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,919
Speaker 4: Keep him healthy. I mean he's an old man now.

678
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 4: You know, he got a family to look after. Now,

679
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 4: he got to make some business decisions, So keep keep

680
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 4: it going.

681
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 7: I like it.

682
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, Well that's interest. I hadn't thought of it in

683
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 5: that way. It's just part of the run game whatever,

684
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 5: and it's successful. Like you said, cool, all right, number

685
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 5: eight here our owner mister Jones said, uh, I remember

686
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 5: yesterday or to day on.

687
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 4: What was that like ship Little River Band song hang,

688
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 4: help is own the way?

689
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 6: Nice? Yeah, he did say that.

690
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 5: They're asked him about the defense and he kind of said,

691
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 5: helps on the way. But it makes you wonder what

692
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 5: help it is.

693
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:26,840
Speaker 2: I mean, at the end of this year, man, with

694
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: the draft, help is on. The free agent money is

695
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 2: larger than it's been in a long time.

696
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 4: And look, let's don't forget this is one of the

697
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 4: best personnel groups that can go find guys that have

698
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 4: been sitting on the couch for six eight months a year.

699
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 7: Remember that one year when George.

700
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 4: Selvy was here and all those guys and they just

701
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 4: around what was it around Christmas time?

702
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 7: They just went and hey, what you doing? You want

703
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 7: to come play some football?

704
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 4: Like, if they're out there, Will McLay and those guys,

705
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 4: we'll be able to find them.

706
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 7: So I don't think there's.

707
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,879
Speaker 4: Gonna be I hope, I'm like you, I hope they

708
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 4: do what spend this draft capital on something. Do they

709
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 4: find somebody something that's low value, trade a trade a seventh.

710
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: Rounder and you're seventh and beyond if we got it

711
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 2: seventh and beyond, or.

712
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,120
Speaker 7: Go find somebody.

713
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 4: Go go call Brady James and say, hey, what you

714
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 4: doing Brady.

715
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 5: Well, I've heard like fans keep asking like, why don't

716
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 5: they sign Stefan Gilmour, Why don't they sign Eric Kendricks

717
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 5: or guys like this, you know, obviously past their prime,

718
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,919
Speaker 5: but maybe a little knowledge, And I don't know, it's

719
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 5: something like that interest you at all?

720
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 2: Me, fellas, I'm sticking to my guns. This is gonna

721
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:47,280
Speaker 2: this season's gonna be what it's gonna be. I'm enjoying it. Uh,

722
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 2: not to losing and not even a tie, but just

723
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 2: to see where this team is guided out and the

724
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 2: thing that makes me happy. Like you said, whether we

725
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 2: play the worst team in the league is gonna be

726
00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 2: a shoe out. Whether we played the best team in

727
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 2: the league, we got a chance to have a shootout.

728
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 2: So hey, it's.

729
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 4: Like when you I don't know, I used to shoot

730
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 4: pool a lot, because obviously that's been half my life

731
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 4: in a bar. But that's why I failed out of

732
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 4: my first two years of college because I played pool in.

733
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 7: The student union building. But when you shoot pool, you play.

734
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 7: If somebody's worse.

735
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 4: Than you, you usually play down to their level. When

736
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 4: they're better than you, you raise your game and you're

737
00:38:30,800 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 4: always pooled you no matter how, unless you just are

738
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 4: a shark, there's always gonna you're gonna be within one

739
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 4: or two balls on the table both ways, right, you

740
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 4: play up and down.

741
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:41,480
Speaker 7: I think that's what this team's gonna do.

742
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 4: I think when you have equal or greater talent, yes

743
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 4: you're probably gonna lose, but you're gonna be in the game.

744
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,759
Speaker 4: When you were playing somebody with equal or lesser talent,

745
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 4: you probably gonna let them play up to your potential.

746
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 7: So I I just I'm not gonna get upset. I'm

747
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 7: not gonna gripe every week. I'm good like they just

748
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 7: go enjoy the ride, and I hope they hope they

749
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 7: because a little bit. You gotta everybody each.

750
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 2: Week we thought we were winning, how people swayed back

751
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 2: and forth? Now, I mean, uh, we saw what James

752
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 2: Houston did or was it James Houston got? Now it's

753
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,239
Speaker 2: all hey, man, bench everybody, I mean not everybody's you know,

754
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 2: he's the next coming, and just thinking over shown this

755
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 2: man hadn't played, but people like cowboys, hope is eternal,

756
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,279
Speaker 2: you know, man, We just hold on. We got this

757
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 2: guy here going James. Now we get over shown back,

758
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: so we ain't got to do much all We got

759
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,839
Speaker 2: to just shove them in the street a litt bit.

760
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: They'll running out there and get hit.

761
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 5: Well, I'll jump to number ten, man, because like you said, people.

762
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 7: Keeping to go number nine in order. All right, number nine,

763
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 7: we almost made it the finish line, Curt.

764
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 5: Okay, we're getting there. Okay, So again talking about bringing help,

765
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 5: there's the twenty one day practice. Windows opened up for

766
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:00,360
Speaker 5: some of these guys that have been on some of

767
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 5: the reserve lists. Jonathan Domingo, Shavon Revel, Phil MafA, Canaan Carson.

768
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 6: Is this part of the helpers on.

769
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,919
Speaker 5: The way that joes might be talking about And can

770
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 5: any of them you think really make an impact or

771
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 5: a difference?

772
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? By seven games from now, I'm gonna always give

773
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 2: these kids and people coming off injury. I'm gonna give

774
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:31,840
Speaker 2: them time when I think it's so irresponsible for me,

775
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: a guy that's played sports. I'm not talking about the

776
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,240
Speaker 2: typical fan, they pay their money, they should expect the best.

777
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 2: A guy that's been in sports a long time to

778
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 2: look at these guys and know what it takes to

779
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 2: get back and to get going. Some of these guys

780
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 2: are coming off major injuries. Some of these guys have

781
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 2: not played football since last year. So in time, six seven,

782
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,399
Speaker 2: eight games give these guys as an actual chance. And

783
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 2: now who's to say they ain't learning a new offense

784
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 2: or a new defense. So yeah, six days, seven weeks,

785
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:11,720
Speaker 2: it's funny, but I'm not gonna tell a fan, hey man, Revel,

786
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 2: get out there, boy. I'm telling you you this dude

787
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: that's the cornerback right he coming off major surgery and

788
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: then I think they had to do something to his

789
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 2: other knee. So if this kid don't come out the

790
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 2: gate in two or three weeks being what everybody wanting

791
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 2: to be, now, you don't have to backtrack well you

792
00:41:28,440 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 2: know years coming off say this responsibly before you know.

793
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 2: That's what I believe.

794
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 5: I'm hoping that Mingo is in Carson can heal. They've

795
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 5: been around a little bit and so they kind of

796
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 5: know the league.

797
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 2: Mingo ain't got a choice Tobert has made sure that

798
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 2: Floyd nor is made sure that come come half if

799
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 2: you won't. These kids are trying to grow up because

800
00:41:56,360 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 2: Pickens has made sure that that's called competition. You know

801
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:02,319
Speaker 2: what I'm saying right right?

802
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 5: The other two though, I mean myfing like you said.

803
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:08,479
Speaker 6: Their rookies, Yes they are, man, I doubt we're gonna

804
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 6: see a whole lot of them.

805
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, well we'll get we'll slip number ten in.

806
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 5: And you brought him up a little bit before Buteop.

807
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 5: People keep talking about over Shawn, even even mister Jones

808
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 5: said it on his radio show that, I mean, he's

809
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 5: an exciting player, but two pretty major knee surgeries in

810
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 5: two years. Why What's because we expect even if he

811
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 5: comes back this year though.

812
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 2: He jumped on't remember he got hurt his rookie year

813
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,600
Speaker 2: and this dude they had to literally put a bit

814
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: on his dude to hold him back in training camp.

815
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 2: He was trying to run out there in practice because

816
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 2: he never he never had that mindset like like a

817
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: lot of guys trying to come back off of injury,

818
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 2: they think about, you know, they breaking down. This kid

819
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 2: didn't think that way. But now you've had a second surgery.

820
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, even maybe worse than.

821
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, worse than now. Even the trainers are saying, Okay,

822
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 2: we know as soon as we turn this guy loose,

823
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 2: he gonna be one hundred miles an hour. But it's

824
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 2: still the game he hasn't played in a long time.

825
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,400
Speaker 2: We got to give him a chance, you know, because

826
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,399
Speaker 2: remember now, they were trying to corral him to say,

827
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 2: slow down, break down, because he missed a few tackles

828
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: each game. Even though he was making a lot of

829
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 2: tackles behind the line in the open field, he was

830
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 2: an ultimate linebacker, he missed one or two because he's

831
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 2: just so gung hold to take your head off. So

832
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 2: now is he gonna be that same guy? And is

833
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 2: he gonna you know.

834
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 5: It, it seems unfair to him because you're saying, oh,

835
00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 5: this guy's gonna were things will be different when he

836
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 5: gets back. It'll be a bigger impact. You're asking him

837
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,880
Speaker 5: to hit that hundred of miles he has.

838
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 2: And he may he may be that guy that can

839
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: go one hundred miles an hour, but he has. It

840
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: is not fair, and that's why that's why you hear

841
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 2: me sometimes just challenge especially I'm talking to Dallas Cowboys

842
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: dot com. You guys in the street. I don't care,

843
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 2: you know, but we have a job. You know, we

844
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:09,279
Speaker 2: we can, we are allowed. We're the only NFL team

845
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:11,399
Speaker 2: to basically be able to say what we want about

846
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 2: over there and ownership and coaching and so. But we

847
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 2: still have a responsibility. Don't oversell something, man. Everybody should

848
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 2: have been around here long enough. When I hit people,

849
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,879
Speaker 2: you know what was shown? Get back? Wow. And then

850
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 2: when you see him in the hall, you say, hey, bro,

851
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 2: this dude coming off injury.

852
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 7: Yeah, I know it.

853
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 2: Well, hold on, bruh, you just told everybody the cavalry

854
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: was coming. What if they run over the cavalry? What

855
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 2: if the Indians have boy Arrows didn't have Winchester. You

856
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:40,280
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.

857
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,600
Speaker 4: And Kurt you have in your uh in your note there.

858
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 4: And people keep talking about overshown, including Jerry Why what?

859
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,359
Speaker 2: What is? What is? Why is he not supposed to? Bro?

860
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 5: No?

861
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 2: No, no?

862
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 7: What is mister Jones at his core?

863
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 6: Thank you?

864
00:44:55,400 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, he's a salesman. You think he you think he

865
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 7: doesn't want to fill that statem him up every week?

866
00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 4: Why you think he said help is on the way

867
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,200
Speaker 4: because he sees what we see and he knows if

868
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 4: that mindset gets in those fans that, oh lord, this

869
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 4: season is over four games in, people gonna start selling

870
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 4: them tickets. The value is gonna go to that. So

871
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 4: guess what what? What does everybody want? Hope helps on

872
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 4: the way. Guess what Overshown? Remember how good he was?

873
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 4: He's selling it. He's selling it so that that's why

874
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 4: And you know what fair?

875
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 7: Unfair?

876
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 4: That's the world we live in with this star right,

877
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 4: three hundred and sixty five days a year. It's a

878
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 4: soap opera, right, yes, sir, you got you got to

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Speaker 4: sell the hope when there's not any hope right now, and.

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Speaker 7: It doesn't look like a whole lot of hope.

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Speaker 2: See. But the two entities I'm talking about should be

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Speaker 2: the way they are. Missus Jones should be one hundred

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Speaker 2: and ten percent in always, the fans should be one

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Speaker 2: hundred and ten percent in because one is making money

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Speaker 2: and the other than is spending money. So you need

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Speaker 2: each other. They need each other, so you have to

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Speaker 2: keep ciphering that thing from them, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: And as maddening as it is, yes, it works. And

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Speaker 4: that's why this building is so nice. Yes, you know

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Speaker 4: that's why this complex. That's why you can look out

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Speaker 4: on that field when we open the show and there's

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Speaker 4: the middle of the day, in the middle of the week,

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Speaker 4: there's people out there. It's why there's tours non stop

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Speaker 4: in this building because yes.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get in on that. Just gonna get a

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Speaker 2: piece of that change, right.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, get some guest appearance money the tours.

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Speaker 4: But it works, man, and that's why it's the most

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Speaker 4: obnoxious fan base in the world and the greatest fan

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Speaker 4: base in the world. Kurt, great job, come back, Jesse, Nate,

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Speaker 4: good stuff.

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Speaker 2: Good stuff for you today, Bro. Good stuff was going.

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Speaker 4: Down to thank Chris, thanks for keeping us on the air.

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Speaker 4: Josh s thanks for keeping him company. Jesse, we will

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Speaker 4: see you tomorrow on the show.

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Speaker 7: Get Report and uh yeah, we'll see you then we are.

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