WEBVTT - OTAs takeaways & mailbag 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:07.200 Be Around the NFL podcast s brates good times. Come on, 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:11.039 Welcome back to another edition of the Around the NFL podcast. 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:13.000 My name is Dan Hansas and I am joined by 0:00:13.119 --> 0:00:18.200 room Feld with heroes Mark Sessler, Chris Westling, and Greg Rostal. 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:22.160 What is up? Boys? That might have been my favorite 0:00:22.200 --> 0:00:25.079 money tag ever. That was awesome. Let's give Dan a 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:29.720 little credit. He is on vacation from NFL media and 0:00:29.800 --> 0:00:31.560 you are here with us. Are you do you even 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:34.880 want to be around us on your vacation? Short answer, 0:00:35.479 --> 0:00:38.919 and especially not when I got here and you got 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:42.559 these you know three DRABRONI show up in suit jackets. 0:00:42.600 --> 0:00:44.440 All of a sudden, it's a suit jacket jacket in 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:47.960 the studio move. Nobody tells the old juser, what are 0:00:48.000 --> 0:00:50.040 you wearing? Why don't you describe it from I'm wearing 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:52.360 a lumber back jack shirt. You're lucky. I'm even wearing 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:54.800 a button up. When I came in from home, I 0:00:54.800 --> 0:00:56.640 was gonna wear a T shirt. Then I get in 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:58.080 here and you pull the rug out from under me 0:00:58.160 --> 0:01:00.360 in an effort to out handsome me. I know you 0:01:00.400 --> 0:01:01.920 guys got a lot of work to do, but this 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:03.360 is I don't like this at all Chris and I 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:05.720 were taping NFL Now earlier today, and you know Mark, 0:01:05.800 --> 0:01:08.520 he's just kind of a clothes horse. Mark looks like 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.120 he looks like the r A from Saved by the 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:13.959 Belvit College line is a joke, I mean basically, And 0:01:14.000 --> 0:01:16.160 if they want to watch the NFL Now video, like, yeah, 0:01:16.200 --> 0:01:18.720 we're gonna be taping a video, that's why I to 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:22.280 show me. But it's a gray ensemble, ridiculous, low level. 0:01:22.480 --> 0:01:24.920 What what even call this? Like a dad's golf shirt 0:01:25.000 --> 0:01:27.600 or something. You're very upset with Zach right now and 0:01:27.680 --> 0:01:30.760 you're going to write him up. I call it a 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:34.160 free are you know, you know apparel that you got 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:36.800 at an NFL event that pretty much describes with a 0:01:36.840 --> 0:01:38.759 sports code on top of it. It's a nice look. 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:40.720 So anyway, it was a double cross. I have some 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:44.320 information I can trade you, uh in exchange for your 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:48.320 forgiveness on this issue. Okay, I'm open. Greg told me 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:50.320 on the way to NFL Now this morning, did he 0:01:50.400 --> 0:01:57.559 texted his personal hair guy to see if he wasn't 0:01:57.600 --> 0:02:02.320 in there? He got shut down? Oh, it's grown embarrassing. Greg. 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:05.840 That was that's both unbecoming of you and embarrassing that. 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:09.320 The guy was like, well, he's not. He's like, aren't 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:14.400 you a blow the liner number he gave it, he 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:17.760 was like, if you know, to see if it could 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.720 work out or whoever, if he was at work that day. 0:02:20.720 --> 0:02:22.440 It's not a sneak attack. I told Greg when he 0:02:22.440 --> 0:02:25.160 gave me the information that I appreciate West. You're off 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:27.320 the hook, thank you. I could care less. This is 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:29.600 one of those things. It's like making fun of the 0:02:29.600 --> 0:02:32.400 Patriots for winning too many super Bowl It's like thoroughly murky. 0:02:32.520 --> 0:02:36.320 It's a great analogy. It's up there with Reavus as analogy. 0:02:36.800 --> 0:02:39.840 All right. So, yes, this is our Thursday show, the 0:02:39.880 --> 0:02:43.440 Around the NFL Podcast, the award winning Around the NFL Podcast. 0:02:44.040 --> 0:02:46.640 We got a big show today. I'm looking forward to it. 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:50.120 We're going to uh look at look at the O 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:52.400 T A s, look back at the second wave of 0:02:52.440 --> 0:02:54.840 O T s that went down this week, and each 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:57.800 give one takeaway that we have. And I believe that 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:01.440 is what um where we're going to get into with 0:03:01.960 --> 0:03:03.560 is this why the Jackets are on? Is it because 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:05.720 of this? Is this going on NFL? Now? I think 0:03:05.720 --> 0:03:07.400 we're going to tape actually one of our part of 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:12.799 oh Okay, I don't know what's happening. I just got here. Um. 0:03:12.919 --> 0:03:14.560 We're also going to hit up the mail bag, which 0:03:14.600 --> 0:03:17.440 we haven't done in a while. So we're gonna see 0:03:17.520 --> 0:03:19.800 what you the listeners have to say to us and 0:03:19.840 --> 0:03:23.959 we will reply, so that will be cool. But before 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:25.920 any of that, we gotta check in behind the glass 0:03:26.840 --> 0:03:28.799 and t D is not alone, by the way, he's 0:03:28.840 --> 0:03:32.760 also behind the glass. Sully of course, the Great Sean Sullivan, 0:03:33.360 --> 0:03:37.920 and behind t D my brother Kevin danger hands this, 0:03:38.840 --> 0:03:42.760 Let's be honest, Kevin's the only reason you're in. If 0:03:42.760 --> 0:03:46.120 you're on a normal you would not be coming in 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:48.560 for the show. But you wanted to show your brother. Hey, 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:52.440 look it's it's the fancy hands is it's it's the 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:56.560 star hands. Look at what big brothers got going. It's important. 0:03:56.680 --> 0:04:00.240 It was absurd, Uh, it's important, Yeah, to you know. 0:04:00.280 --> 0:04:01.720 I figured Kevin might want to see it, and it 0:04:01.840 --> 0:04:03.960 actually this is all about Kevin. I said, Kevin, do 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:05.560 you want to see the The podcast is like if 0:04:05.600 --> 0:04:06.920 you would have said no, if he would have said, 0:04:06.960 --> 0:04:09.680 let's go get drunk somewhere, play frisbee or something like that, 0:04:09.840 --> 0:04:11.720 I would have said, all right, let those are your 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:16.120 two options fee with Yeah, we're gonna play. We're gonna 0:04:16.120 --> 0:04:18.400 throw some frisbee after the show, so forty with you 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:20.920 to uh, you know, not yet, so maybe maybe we'll 0:04:20.960 --> 0:04:22.320 talk to Kevin at the end of the show. So 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:24.760 we got Kevin there, t d uh, you know how 0:04:24.800 --> 0:04:26.960 you doing, buddy doing good man? Kevin is having a 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.160 good time. I don't think he's a huge fan of you. 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:33.800 You know, nicknamed me your own self, though really I 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:36.320 didn't as I took it out of my hands. And 0:04:36.320 --> 0:04:40.599 and let Lindsay Rhodes decide between Daddy Rich and old Zeuster. 0:04:40.640 --> 0:04:43.120 I think she went with Daddy Rich, but old Zeuser 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:45.120 is the one that feels right. So yeah, this will 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:48.760 be the one nickname ever that no one ever calls you. 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.480 I get it a time on social media. Daddy Rich 0:04:51.520 --> 0:04:54.040 couldn't be farther off base, So we have to go 0:04:54.080 --> 0:05:00.120 with you. Guys all look ridiculous. Are the options really? Uh? 0:05:00.160 --> 0:05:02.279 What's your nickname? By the way, today you keep saying 0:05:02.320 --> 0:05:07.279 young Kobe, which is absolutely deplorable, giving myself that, Yeah, 0:05:07.320 --> 0:05:09.520 I'm sure you didn't. And then and then you're trying 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:11.360 to push something on us earlier this week. It was 0:05:11.400 --> 0:05:15.800 like sporty cheap. That's a real life nickname. That's what 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:18.520 my family whom I'll be going home to see in 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:21.440 a couple of days. That's good. I'm happy to hear that. 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:23.960 But old Zeuser is just as real as young Chief 0:05:24.240 --> 0:05:31.679 or whatever, even more real. I love you, buddy, Listen. 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:33.080 I don't want to fight with you like you and 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:36.680 West did the other guy. Is everything cool there? We're good? Yeah, 0:05:36.720 --> 0:05:39.880 we we continued that debate, you know, Vogue d Money 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:42.360 a social media guy and Dave damage check yesterday and uh, 0:05:42.560 --> 0:05:46.200 just kept it's ongoing, all right, that's good. Yeah, dialogues 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:53.480 good made you award. Just to reminder you, we got 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:56.520 nominated for the Academy of Podcasts Awards, and uh, please 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:58.840 send in your suggestions because we need to send him 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:01.760 a five minute clip of our show. So far, have 0:06:01.880 --> 0:06:05.960 been ginning a lot of Mark Sessler's fifty words description 0:06:06.000 --> 0:06:09.359 of the Cowboys defense, a lot of Mark Sceslor Spies segments. Actually, 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:14.320 I'm not sure that list would do well to introduced 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:17.200 with the show. We weren't correct though either, as funny 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:19.280 as it was, we want to probably submit something where 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:22.120 we look like we're you know, knowing what we're talking 0:06:22.120 --> 0:06:24.200 about right now, we couldn't really have been farther off 0:06:24.200 --> 0:06:26.800 base when I say we also liked the idea of 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.040 just let's send in a segment where it's all Mark 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:32.960 to Mark Sessler show, and now lets suggestion we keep 0:06:32.960 --> 0:06:36.080 getting as Chris Wesley's tribute to Reggie Wayne that which 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:38.520 is very heart woman and uh, it was very inspiring 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:40.359 at the time. Well, you'd have to put like the 0:06:40.400 --> 0:06:44.480 Academy Award music when someone dies behind it. All right, 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:48.960 let's go. We'll start with Adrian Peterson, who big news 0:06:49.200 --> 0:06:53.440 on Wednesday. Mike Zimmer, the Vikings coach, made it very 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:56.960 clear where he stood, uh, in terms of Peterson's situation 0:06:57.000 --> 0:07:00.240 where he hasn't appeared at any offseason workouts so far. 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:02.839 He said, and he said to the media, listen, Adrian 0:07:02.839 --> 0:07:06.640 Peterson can either play for us or not play at all. So, uh, 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:09.000 that was really cutting through some of the rhetoric that 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:11.840 was coming through the Peterson camp through back channels in 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:15.800 the media. And Peterson then responds on Thursday, Um, the 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.000 reason I'm not attending O t S has nothing to 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.520 do with wanting to be traded. It's about securing my 0:07:20.600 --> 0:07:23.920 future with the Vikings. It's business, not personal, and I 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:27.920 understand that firsthand. Go Vikings, Greg, You've always said this 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.440 is about the money. Is it about the money? I 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:33.600 loved Well, he just said it's about that. I love 0:07:33.640 --> 0:07:36.680 the fact that Adrian Peterson released the statement that basically 0:07:36.720 --> 0:07:40.520 said West has been wrong for the last four shows. 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:43.600 It was almost a direct attack on Charles Robinson of 0:07:43.680 --> 0:07:46.640 Yahoo and West. Well, I think that that I don't 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:48.360 want to be traded. It's about the money. It's a 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:51.600 slight oversimplification. It's more about the fact that he has 0:07:51.640 --> 0:07:54.880 no leverage. Um. But I I would like to point 0:07:54.920 --> 0:07:58.600 out that you and uh NFL media insider Ian Rappaport 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:02.560 have read this situation Asian correctly all along and Yahoo 0:08:02.600 --> 0:08:05.720 and Bleacher Report basically got used by Peterson's camp. Well 0:08:05.760 --> 0:08:08.040 hold on, but West. I don't think Wes is wrong 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:12.679 to point out that Peterson is unhappy with the Vikings 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:14.520 and if he could be somewhere else, he would be 0:08:14.600 --> 0:08:17.160 somewhere else, but he has he's out of moves. And 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:19.480 then he went on this Twitter rant today well where 0:08:19.520 --> 0:08:22.720 he unleashed on the on his contract situation. So he 0:08:22.800 --> 0:08:25.160 went on an epic Twitter rant. Mark wrote up the 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:28.240 piece for Around the NFL just before we came up here, 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:30.120 and it said I love people who think they know 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:33.400 it all shaking my head smh as the kids say, 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:36.960 research how many nfls teams hasn't honored a player's contract 0:08:37.000 --> 0:08:39.560 and learned something question for the people as a contract 0:08:39.559 --> 0:08:42.480 two sided or one okay, great two side? It basically 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:45.240 goes on and on, and he says, you know, teams 0:08:45.360 --> 0:08:47.480 don't honor their contracts. They cut you if they're not 0:08:47.520 --> 0:08:49.920 any good. And he made it clear he just wants 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:54.080 a little more. Nothing Adrian Peterson tweeted today was untrue, 0:08:54.160 --> 0:08:58.520 yet it at somehow ended up especially controversial to Mama Boy, 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:02.600 Suburbia beat writers whoa well, and our Twitter followers because 0:09:02.600 --> 0:09:06.600 we retweeted Peterson and I got the scent. We got 0:09:06.600 --> 0:09:09.319 to see what Peterson is getting in his mentions from 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:13.240 people responding, and it was some pretty dark stuff. Yeah. 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:16.520 People have not forgiven Adrian Peterson for uh what he 0:09:16.559 --> 0:09:19.400 did to his son which got him UH in the 0:09:19.440 --> 0:09:22.199 news and taking off the field last year. It feels 0:09:22.240 --> 0:09:24.520 to me like a bit of a weird time for 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:27.240 him to having to have this. I don't understand he's 0:09:27.280 --> 0:09:29.680 aged thirty, so that he could see this timing wise, 0:09:29.800 --> 0:09:31.320 is his last chance to get a big deal with 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:33.679 The timing to me is a little weird for this 0:09:33.760 --> 0:09:36.040 to be the time where he's gonna say I'm holding 0:09:36.040 --> 0:09:39.480 out again. He has not played football in a year, 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:42.679 essentially a year and a half besides one game. I mean, 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:44.680 why don't you think he would take his thirteen million 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:47.400 he's making this year or whatever, have a lights out 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:49.480 year and then use that for leverage. It just seems 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:52.120 weird that he now he's gonna getting this big contract showdown. 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:54.240 The timing is off to me, Well, I mean, I 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:56.680 think I think the point is that that Ian made 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.360 especially was that it's this year's one thing. It's about 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:02.680 wanting gear inteed money after this year, and he's fighting 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:05.120 for it. And I think he feels disrespected from the 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:08.840 Vikings all along, and and now they're actually having practices. 0:10:08.880 --> 0:10:10.480 I think that's why he's speaking, because he's not at 0:10:10.559 --> 0:10:12.600 something he could be at. This is what I thought 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.120 of when I saw the Mike Zimmer quote. It felt 0:10:15.200 --> 0:10:26.040 very Marcel's Wallace to me. In another help That's how 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:28.240 I felt. That's how I took it. It was basically saying, 0:10:28.440 --> 0:10:30.800 I know, you know what's happening sucks for you right now, 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:33.559 but come play. It's time to play. But Peterson is 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:35.520 not gonna go down without a fight. It seems like 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:39.400 at what West said about the message making sense, and 0:10:39.440 --> 0:10:42.600 he's right. He's complaining that it's crazy how one side 0:10:42.679 --> 0:10:44.440 of the power is in terms of these contracts. I 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:47.560 never mind a player like going after teams. These teams 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:50.719 would sell their soul to get one percent better. These 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:52.839 are the same teams that are hiring you know, Greg 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:55.560 Hardy right after everything. So if the player wants to 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:57.640 do the same thing and go after the team, that's fine. 0:10:57.840 --> 0:11:01.280 Just the timing of it is is tough for Peterson. 0:11:01.360 --> 0:11:03.160 But his leverage is that he's the best player on 0:11:03.200 --> 0:11:04.960 the team by far, and he knows it, and the 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:07.520 Vikings know it, and they desperately want to win and 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:09.839 go into the new stadium winning. It still wouldn't totally 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:12.040 stunned me if you got a little extra money next year. 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:15.959 I realize he's not a very sympathetic figure to most people. 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:18.680 He is to me. I never liked the way the 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:22.080 situation was handled last year. He was he was punished, 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:25.080 he sat, he was punished by the law too, and 0:11:25.200 --> 0:11:28.000 he served that he sat and then they sat again 0:11:28.120 --> 0:11:31.640 because of public pressure and sponsorships. And to me that 0:11:31.920 --> 0:11:34.160 I get why he's upset about that. I don't like 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:36.920 when people make decisions not based on what they believe 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:39.000 is right, but based on which which way is the 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:42.000 winds blowing, And that's what has Peterson miffed, and I 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:45.200 get that. I think that that's a fair point on 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:48.080 his end. Moving on to Denver, were some very bad 0:11:48.120 --> 0:11:51.720 news out of o t As for the Broncos. Ryan Claydy, 0:11:51.840 --> 0:11:54.760 their Pro Bowl left tackle and danger of missing the 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:58.520 entire season after suffering a torn a c L in 0:11:58.600 --> 0:12:03.800 Wednesday's practice. Uh the team website later confirmed uh Ian 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:07.120 Rap Reports reports, so he's likely out the entire season. 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:09.560 This is the same Ryan Claydy that missed most of 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:13.880 the season with an injury and their offense did find west. 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:16.480 Is this a type of injury that is really going 0:12:16.520 --> 0:12:18.440 to hurt the Broncos or will they recover like they 0:12:18.480 --> 0:12:20.520 did the last time. That's a very good question. I 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:22.960 think it's fair to point out that they were a 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:25.480 record breaking offense in two thousand thirteen, as long as 0:12:25.559 --> 0:12:28.840 you also point out that this could be a much 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:31.040 different situation because they have they could have four new 0:12:31.080 --> 0:12:35.360 starters this year, and offensive lines is all about continuity 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:38.800 and familiarity with each other and all of in the quarterback, 0:12:38.840 --> 0:12:40.880 in the coaches. So I don't think we can just 0:12:40.920 --> 0:12:44.080 extrapolate the two thousand thirteen success and say they'll be 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.400 fine without Claydy. I think it hurts. But on top 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.360 of it, we're looking at a left tackle spot that 0:12:48.520 --> 0:12:51.400 we we assumed initially that Chris Clark would move into 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:53.559 the left tackle spot. He played there for a bit 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:56.479 in two thousand and thirteen. But the way the Broncos 0:12:56.480 --> 0:12:59.640 spoke today was that that competition might be open with 0:12:59.720 --> 0:13:01.760 a key number one and a bunch of other guys 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:03.839 that wouldn't be starting otherwise that I mean, if you're 0:13:03.840 --> 0:13:10.000 Peyton Manning, you can still retire. Um. They have a 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:12.320 second round pick, tys Embrio, so it's a guy that 0:13:12.360 --> 0:13:15.840 they drafted for this system. It doesn't seem like that 0:13:15.880 --> 0:13:17.800 bad of an option. I mean, second round pick that 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:20.080 shows they think pretty highly. And they also have a 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.760 third round pick from last year, Michael Scofield. We've seen 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:25.400 number one overall picks come in and struggle at left 0:13:25.400 --> 0:13:27.679 tackle in the NFL. That's true too, But what I'm 0:13:27.720 --> 0:13:30.400 saying is they have some players with some pedigree at 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:33.560 that spot and they're changing their systems entirely. So and 0:13:33.679 --> 0:13:37.000 Ryan Claydy, You're not losing the Ryan Claydy from two 0:13:37.040 --> 0:13:39.600 thousand twelve or even earlier in his career when he 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:41.120 was a two time All Pro. By the time he's 0:13:41.160 --> 0:13:43.000 twenty five. You're losing a guy who last year was 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:45.640 probably pretty average and is learning a new system. And 0:13:45.720 --> 0:13:48.280 Kubiak wants different sorts of players, So I guess. I mean, 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:50.800 if there's a silver lining, it's good for them. They 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:52.920 have some players there and it happened in the middle 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:54.240 of the summer, so they can go get ready. It 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:57.520 is funny that the immediate Twitter reaction was like devastating 0:13:57.600 --> 0:14:01.000 loss for the Broncos and pro and like he that 0:14:01.120 --> 0:14:02.960 he has been that guy, But if you look at 0:14:03.000 --> 0:14:06.199 what he did last year, he wasn't last year that guy. 0:14:06.000 --> 0:14:08.320 They paid him. They gave him a fifty million dollar 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:11.760 contract in two thousand thirteen, and so that has not 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:14.280 worked that well. He's also had a torn Patel attendant 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:16.400 back in two thousand and ten. I believe in the 0:14:16.440 --> 0:14:18.720 off season, so he's had a lot of injuries. Probably 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:20.000 not going to be on their team. It's like trying 0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:23.320 to get Dan into the lineup. How about both Manning 0:14:23.720 --> 0:14:28.160 brothers losing their left tackles this month? Yeah? Outchers. How 0:14:28.160 --> 0:14:31.920 about that Mark? Yeah, it's Sue Jacket. That's what they 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:34.320 pay hand likes. This look is starting Kevin Danger. You 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:36.000 want to know why they pay hands is the big box. 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:38.600 He's not even paying attention. He's looking at his Twitter account. 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.120 That's why, because the hands has brought it all together. 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:44.560 Your brother be happy. He mentioned Eli and paying Danger 0:14:44.640 --> 0:14:48.920 listening to his first Round the NFL podcast. Really, last 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:51.520 time I saw Kevin Danger, he was in a leopard 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:55.080 skin coat at the super Bowl at the bud Light party. 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.560 This guy knows how to get uh. It should be 0:14:57.600 --> 0:14:59.920 noted that he pulled it off to he did. He did. 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:03.840 The man has style. He was accosted by a flamboyant 0:15:03.960 --> 0:15:08.240 um uh boutique shop employee outside a cafe where you're 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:12.320 at yesterday. I'm not surprised now. So that's Kevin Danger 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:15.880 and nutshell follom on Twitter at Kevin Hanss. By the way, 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:20.400 he's paying me ten dollars. Alright, moving on to the 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:23.880 Philadelphia Eagles, Chip Kelly. When he speaks the around the NFL, 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:27.560 who takes note? I know this because in my research 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.680 before today's show, which I did plenty of, believe you, 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:34.840 me three posts on Chip Kelly's press conference at Eagles 0:15:34.840 --> 0:15:37.520 headquarters at O. T. A. S. And he hit several 0:15:37.600 --> 0:15:41.200 topics that are worth addressing. Let's start with Lashawn McCoy, 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:43.960 who created a stir earlier this month when he said 0:15:44.000 --> 0:15:47.640 that Kelly got rid of the Eagles quote unquote good 0:15:47.680 --> 0:15:51.600 black players. When Kelly was asked about this, you can 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:55.640 imagine he would have a response here it was, yeah, 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:59.280 I've got great respect for the sham um. However, in 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:02.080 that situation, I think he's wrong. You know, we put 0:16:02.080 --> 0:16:04.160 a lot of time in looking at the characters and 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.920 factors that go into selection and retention of players, and 0:16:07.040 --> 0:16:08.920 color has never been one of them. So as a 0:16:08.960 --> 0:16:11.400 follow up, someone asked, this is the third time someone 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:14.000 has made this type of common about Kelly. Do you 0:16:14.040 --> 0:16:18.000 worry about the perception? M you start taking perception and 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:20.360 you've got a long life ahead of you, son, That's 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:22.280 what it's all about. If you're worried about some other's 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:24.760 perception of what's going on with you. Then you can 0:16:24.760 --> 0:16:26.360 control one thing. You can troll yourself. And I know 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:28.240 how we run this organization, it's not run that one. 0:16:28.520 --> 0:16:32.320 I'm I'm a little like uh torn right now because 0:16:32.520 --> 0:16:35.120 I actually like Chip Kelly. Well you know, he's the 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:37.160 genius and he's annoying, but I like how he handles 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:40.400 the reporters. It's kind of fun listening to answer questions, 0:16:40.440 --> 0:16:42.400 not a root no, And I like him too. And 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:44.400 actually the other thing that we should point out is 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:45.920 that he went out of his way to say that 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:49.120 he called the Shawn McCoy twice and deal with this 0:16:49.160 --> 0:16:52.360 issue and his agent, and that Shady did not call 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:55.280 him back, and in the in the numbers don't support 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:58.840 what McCoy said to begin with. Sure, well, I will 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:01.920 never take anything less Lashawn McCoy says, seriously, again, it 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:03.520 has not been a good if he had a history 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:06.480 of that long before this this moment. But but listen, 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:08.840 just again, if you can, you can attact Helly all 0:17:08.840 --> 0:17:10.200 you want. He went out of his way to solve 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:12.360 the issue and take it on and McCoy doesn't even 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:14.800 call him bat. Yeah, that's a bad job by McCoy 0:17:14.920 --> 0:17:17.480 that if it mattered at all to him, that if 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:19.639 he believed in it at all, he would talk to 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:21.560 you know, he was just something to say. You know, 0:17:21.720 --> 0:17:25.120 it's especially a bad look is that most NFL locker 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:27.399 rooms are predominantly black. So when you throw out a 0:17:27.400 --> 0:17:29.880 comment like that, which is a real heat seeker at 0:17:29.880 --> 0:17:33.120 a coach, and then you don't have like the respect 0:17:33.160 --> 0:17:35.760 to to pick up the phone and answer to that charge. 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:38.359 To me, not a good offseason for Lashaw McCoy. De 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:41.679 Marco Murray, who is a Black Star Offensive Player of 0:17:41.680 --> 0:17:44.600 the Year and got paid by the Eagles, was quick 0:17:44.640 --> 0:17:47.040 to point out today, hey, look around, there's a lot 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:50.560 of us here, McCoy. I would, uh, he did have 0:17:50.600 --> 0:17:53.440 a bad offseason going to Buffalo, but he did get 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:56.240 that monster raised in that apology contract. Well, he is 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:59.679 part of a group of Eagles players. Probably they have 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:02.000 their own a little group where they say, we got 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.080 Kelly came in and rebooted the machine, and we all 0:18:04.119 --> 0:18:06.199 got jumped out of there, you know, de Sean Jackson 0:18:06.200 --> 0:18:07.840 the rest, but has nothing to do with color. In 0:18:08.040 --> 0:18:11.520 other Chip Kelly news, of course, Tim Tebow was the 0:18:11.560 --> 0:18:15.320 topic of of discussion people wondering if maybe Chip will 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:18.439 use his genius tools and change his position somehow, But 0:18:18.680 --> 0:18:22.280 Kelly shot that down. He's a quarterback. That's how we're 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:26.520 looking at Timmy interesting, We're not looking him at him 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.840 at any other position. And then Kelly then kind of 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:31.879 bought in a little bit on that talk. With the 0:18:32.160 --> 0:18:34.760 Tom House working out and Tebow learning how to throw 0:18:34.800 --> 0:18:37.240 a football. You guys will see him today, watch him throw. 0:18:37.280 --> 0:18:39.280 I think he's improved. He spent a lot of time 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:41.520 in the last few years in terms of working on 0:18:41.560 --> 0:18:44.159 his game. So Kelly is putting up the front the 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:46.800 Tebow is an improved passer. I feel like we've heard 0:18:46.800 --> 0:18:50.959 this before, didn't we hear the Tom House refined motion 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:53.600 story the last time his career peter down. It's a 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:58.960 trope approving in Denver after the rookie season when he 0:18:58.960 --> 0:19:00.879 didn't play at all, and then he and after he 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:02.960 played well, they said it was yeah, so we've heard 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:05.639 it before. Now with that said, I do think he 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:07.520 has a better chance to make the team than I 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:10.760 initially did when he signed. Not just because they moved J. J. 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:13.080 Kinney to wide receiver. That doesn't really matter, but it 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:16.600 wouldn't totally shock me. If Kelly just wants to prove 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:19.000 people wrong, put him on the roster as the third 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:21.760 quarterback and legitimately give him a change. Well, and Matt 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:25.320 Barkley hasn't shown enough to make that an impossibility. And 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:28.159 one thing that I think he shot down entirely, which was, 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:31.280 you know, worth listening to what he basically said that 0:19:31.359 --> 0:19:33.320 with the extra point o, we're gonna use Tebow as 0:19:33.320 --> 0:19:37.120 a two point specialist. That whole business. Kelly went out 0:19:37.119 --> 0:19:39.399 of his way to say that the rule change is 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:42.600 utter nonsense, that from where the kicks been moved, that 0:19:42.720 --> 0:19:45.159 over the last two years they made nineties six percent 0:19:45.200 --> 0:19:48.240