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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Doug Peterson Show, brought you by Fresh

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Speaker 1: from Florida. JP Shadwick and former Jaguar Jeff Logoman discuss

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Speaker 1: the latest Jaguars news with the head coach. That Doug

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Speaker 1: Peterson Show starts right now.

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Speaker 2: And welcome in.

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Speaker 3: It is the Doug Peterson Show for a sentate by

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Speaker 3: Fresh from Florida from the Hyundai Studios at the Miller

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Speaker 3: Electric Center. JP Shadrick with Jeff Logoman and head coach

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Speaker 3: Doug Peterson. Fresh off the mini bye week eight coming

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Speaker 3: up in Pittsburgh, then the full bye week after that,

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Speaker 3: and we'll coach. There's a balance, right of getting guys

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Speaker 3: ready off the mini by to play this week against Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 3: but there's a lot of football ahead and important stretch

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Speaker 3: run games after the bye week as well, So the

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Speaker 3: balance of getting guys back and then resting guys for

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Speaker 3: the stretch run here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and on top of that, the importance of playing

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Speaker 4: AFC opponents, and Pittsburgh is one of those teams and

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Speaker 4: they're four and two, you know, we're five and two.

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Speaker 4: So you know, when you look at the end of

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Speaker 4: the year seedings and things like that, these become these

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Speaker 4: become important games, and but you know, yeah, it was

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Speaker 4: good to get to buy we you know, mini by

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Speaker 4: to get some guys healthy. You know, going into this week,

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Speaker 4: may not have everybody back, but but uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: we'll get some bodies and and then get the full

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Speaker 4: buy and hopefully after after that we we we should

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Speaker 4: be back to full strength, you know, heading into the

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Speaker 4: last eight games or something.

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Speaker 2: I was looking at the records. You know, you guys

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Speaker 2: have obviously won four games in a row. Pittsburgh has

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Speaker 2: won four out of the last five. The last time

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Speaker 2: these two teams met with winning records was back in

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Speaker 2: two thousand and seven, which was Tomlin's first year. And

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Speaker 2: you were a high school coach at Calvary Baptist High

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Speaker 2: School in West by God, Virginia.

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Speaker 4: UH, Louisiana, Louisiana, Louisiana, Shreveport, Louisiana. Yeah, two thousand and seven,

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Speaker 4: I had just retired.

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Speaker 4: Four took the job and five eight was my last

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Speaker 4: year there. So that's a long long time ago, long

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Speaker 4: time ago. You know, were you guys any good? By

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Speaker 4: the way, we were actually pretty good my last two years.

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Speaker 4: We made it to the state semifinals. My last two

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Speaker 4: years just couldn't get over the hump. So the one

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Speaker 4: thing that eluded me even when I played high school

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Speaker 4: ball was a state championship. So I got a I

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Speaker 4: got a one double, a national championship in college, and

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Speaker 4: I got obviously a Super Bowl trophy. The high school

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Speaker 4: back to high school.

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Speaker 3: So all right, one constant in Pittsburgh obviously has been

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Speaker 3: over the years head coaching, and it's three head coaches

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Speaker 3: in with the last fifty years. Mike Tomlin has been

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Speaker 3: there now seemingly forever. What are some some constants of

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Speaker 3: Mike Tomlin football teams?

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Speaker 4: You know, I think that's the reason why this this

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Speaker 4: organization and franchises had the stability and sustainability and the

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Speaker 4: success that they've had over the the history of the

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Speaker 4: Pittsburgh Steelers, you know. And they've they've obviously selected great

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Speaker 4: head coaches, you know, and Mike is one of those guys.

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Speaker 4: He you know, he's he's a players type coach, but

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Speaker 4: he's firm with them. He demands excellence and greatness from

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Speaker 4: him and the guys respond and and that's and he's

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Speaker 4: had a quarterback usually, you know, on this football team.

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Speaker 4: So you know, there's a lot of things that they

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Speaker 4: for me as as a head coach to really watch

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Speaker 4: a guy like coach Tomlin and how he operates in

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Speaker 4: the success he's had there in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: Now you say they they had a quarterback, Okay, Ben

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Speaker 2: Roethlisberger forever. Okay, Kenny Pickett's quarterback. Now, he's a young player,

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Speaker 2: and young players typically have growing pains. He's in year two.

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Speaker 2: What does he look like?

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Speaker 4: You know, he he's doing some really good things. You know,

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Speaker 4: the run game a little bit. But but you're seeing maturity.

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Speaker 4: You're seeing you know, some things. He is still going

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Speaker 4: He sees the field. That's the one thing too, is

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Speaker 4: he's he's seeing the field a little bit better this year.

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Speaker 4: And and you know, the guys around him are playing extremely,

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Speaker 2: And the one part about his game that's been really

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Speaker 4: It really has. And in this team, I think the

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Speaker 4: last five consecutive when they've been in one score games,

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Speaker 4: you know, they've they've either come back and won those

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Speaker 4: you know, and he's led those those comebacks or at

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Speaker 4: you know, that's impressive. His his QB rating in the

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Speaker 4: seventy percent of his throws in the fourth quarter. And again,

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Speaker 4: that's to me, that's a that's a sign of a

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Speaker 4: they can put the offense on his shoulders and and

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Speaker 4: and say, hey, go win the football game. And and

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Speaker 4: he's done that.

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Speaker 3: Head coach Doug Peterson with us on the Doug Peterson Show.

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Speaker 3: Let's flip it around now. Coach to the Jaguars offense

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Speaker 3: and quarterback Trevor Lawrence, of course, Thursday night in the Superdome,

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Speaker 3: battled through the left knee injury, wore the brace, was

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Speaker 3: done again though when it mattered on offense and just

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Speaker 3: the mindset of the quarterback to play through an injury

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Speaker 3: like that. And then what is the latest with Trevor

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, the mindset is how how how well

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Speaker 4: can he block out the subtle pain, you know, And

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Speaker 4: and he did that extremely well and it didn't bother him,

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Speaker 4: he's getting stronger and healthier every every day. And and

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Speaker 4: you know, I'll say this, I credit the offense the

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Speaker 4: They got two of the top edge pressures probably that

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Speaker 4: quite frankly, the strength of this defense is the is

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Speaker 4: out for him. But Trevor's in a good place, and

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Speaker 4: you know we've got to make sure we do do

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Speaker 4: the right thing, get the ball out of his hand

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Speaker 4: and lean on the run game if the weather's going

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Speaker 2: Now you talk about those edge guys, Watt and high Smith,

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Speaker 2: and I would put her big into that category of

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Speaker 2: rookie that they've got that's been giving them some pretty

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Speaker 2: good quality snaps. And that defense that Pittsburgh has, much

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Speaker 2: like yours, opportunistic, doing a good job taking that ball

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Speaker 4: You know, Wat, I think he's at eight sacks, and

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Speaker 4: a there's a nice little little battle going on right there.

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Speaker 2: But you're absolutely right.

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Speaker 4: Both defenses are opportunistic. You know, they they've done. You know,

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Speaker 4: Watt had the interception to start the third quarter last

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Speaker 4: they had the tip pass for a pick six. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it's just a defense that's creating takeaways and and creating

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Speaker 4: So I think whoever hangs on to the football and

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Speaker 2: Watching TJ. Watt in that game against the Rams that

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Speaker 2: you're referring to where he had the interceptions, the amount

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Speaker 2: of attention that Sean McVay paid TJ. Watt was like wow,

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Speaker 2: I mean you got to pay that respect, right. I mean,

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Speaker 4: You have to and flip it the other way. Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 4: you know, gave Aaron Donald a lot of respect on

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Speaker 4: the other side of the ball. Two great defensive players.

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Speaker 4: So you know, you have to. You have to, you know,

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Speaker 4: maybe spend some resources knowing where number ninety is going

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Speaker 3: Coach, you talked about the weather in Pittsburgh. It's getting

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Speaker 3: that time of year. It's Halloween weekend coming up, and

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Speaker 3: we know how it can get later in the year

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Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh, that playing surface there, they have college games

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Speaker 2: There's a lot that can happen.

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Speaker 3: What do you expect with the weather this week and

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Speaker 3: how can that change really both teams plans.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, I mean we're expecting rain. Obviously, it's

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Speaker 4: in the eighty percentile right now as far as rain goes.

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Speaker 4: the probably mid mid sixties and and you know, listen,

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Speaker 4: we can't worry about that. We got to kind of

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Speaker 4: block that out. We had a rain game last year

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Speaker 4: and we didn't do so well. We didn't take care

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Speaker 4: obviously this year and and you know, do a better

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Speaker 4: job of securing the football. But hopefully we can create

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Speaker 4: some takeaways, you know, defensively and create some short fields

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Speaker 2: Yeah, earlier in the week you talked about improving taking

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Speaker 2: care of the football is an offense. As a head coach,

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Speaker 2: you know, you're always looking for improvement in all facets

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Speaker 2: of the game. What are some of the things besides

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Speaker 2: protecting the football that you want to see your team

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Speaker 2: improve on? Because right now they're doing a really good

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Speaker 2: job with the takeaways, the penalties are low, But what

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Speaker 2: do you want to see better?

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Speaker 4: You know, I think we're still having those lulls in

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Speaker 4: the football game, right and and maybe it's middle of

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Speaker 4: the second quarter or second half where offensively or and defensively,

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Speaker 4: you know, we're just not getting off the field or

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Speaker 4: sustaining drives offensively, and there's those lulls in there, and

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Speaker 4: and so we've got to execute a little bit better there.

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Speaker 4: Done, it still tells me that we haven't done anything,

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Speaker 4: You know, But like I said, there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: Coach, great stuff, Good luck to you. We'll talk to

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Speaker 3: Doug Peterson with us in twenty minutes, Charles Davis of

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Speaker 3: CBS Sports with us. This is the Doug Peterson Show

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now.

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Speaker 3: The Doug Peterson Show presented by Fresh from Florida from

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Speaker 3: the Hundai Studios at the Miller Electric Center downtown Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: The Jaguars and the Steelers coming up. JP Shadwick, Jeff Logoman,

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Speaker 2: Oh thanks to head coach Doug Peterson joining us in

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Speaker 2: the opening segment. Each and every week it is his show,

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Speaker 2: The Doug Peterson Show. Week eight.

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Speaker 3: The Jaguars at five and two, they've won four consecutive

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Speaker 3: you know, there's a lot of things that stand out

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Speaker 2: No, They've got twelve and I think that's like fourth

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Speaker 2: those those games, they lost the turnover battle minus one,

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Speaker 2: and that's one of the things that Doug had talked

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Speaker 3: You know what that's for both teams though, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I believe the Jaguars have an advantage in bad weather

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Speaker 2: that's they're ranked very low in that category. They're throwing

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Speaker 2: What they have to offer for the Steelers. A lot

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now.

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Speaker 3: The Doug Peterson Show presented by Fresh from Florida, J P. Shadrick,

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Speaker 3: Jeff Lagman, Jaguars Steelers coming up Sunday at the Confluence.

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Speaker 2: And Pittsburgh Akroscher Stadium. It's not called Heinz Field anymore.

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Speaker 3: twenty one NFL draft of the Steamers twenty fifth overall

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Speaker 3: pick to the Jaguars, Travis Etnjr.

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Speaker 2: You think that Travis etn might might have made a

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Speaker 2: note of that Steelers passed me up for nauj Harris

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Speaker 2: note to self, win plane, Steelers show them what they

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Speaker 2: are missing.

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Speaker 3: Exclamation point back in a moment, we'll flip it around. Jaguars' offense.

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Speaker 3: What can they get done against the Steelers group? Especially TJ.

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Speaker 3: Watt at outside linebacker. And a little bit later, about

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Speaker 3: ten minutes away from Charles Davis of CBS Sports, This

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Speaker 3: is Doug Peterson Show on the Jaguars Radio Network.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now.

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Speaker 3: The Doug Peterson Show presented by Fresh from Florida, thanks

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Speaker 3: to the Jaguars head coach in studio with us in

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Speaker 3: the opening segment.

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Speaker 2: Tonight.

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Speaker 3: We're on at five o'clock on the Jaguars Radio Network.

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Speaker 3: Each and every Thursday, at least when there's a game.

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Speaker 3: We will not have one next week. It's the bye

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Speaker 3: week next week. Fantastic about that. I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 3: I have a feeling you'll be in a deer stand.

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Speaker 2: I might be. I might be I will be enjoying

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Speaker 2: the great outdoors somewhere.

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Speaker 3: I think so. Hey, the Jaguar is offense. Trevor Lawrence

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Speaker 3: playing through the knee issue. He still has the brace

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Speaker 3: on the left knee. He said he's gonna wear it

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Speaker 3: for a little while, which I think is smart.

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Speaker 2: By the way, just a quick comment on that a quarterback,

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Speaker 2: a right handed quarterback's left knee is typically the one

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Speaker 2: that's exposed the most, so and I don't think it's

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Speaker 2: necessarily a bad idea for him to always wear a

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Speaker 2: knee brace on that left knee going forward, just to

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Speaker 2: help add protection to that leg that when you are

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Speaker 2: transferring your weight, okay, in a throwing motion, that front leg,

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Speaker 2: that's the one that's susceptible to getting hit a lot

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Speaker 2: of times. And so if you go back and you

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Speaker 2: look at some of the quarterbacks in the past, a

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Speaker 2: lot of them have worn any brace to help protect

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Speaker 2: that forward leg.

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Speaker 3: That's one item to keep an eye on. Of course,

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Speaker 3: Travis Etn has three straight games with two rushing touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: First Jaguar to ever do that, and if he does

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Speaker 3: it again, I think the last player to do it

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Speaker 3: in four straight games was Ladani and Tomlinson.

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Speaker 2: Number of years ago. That was pretty good, by the way. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so Etn is reaching some milestones and playing really well overall.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that Pittsburgh Steels would like to redraft file?

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Speaker 2: That's we've We've gone through that. I just wanted to

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Speaker 2: bring it up again because you're mentioning numbers Jay just

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Speaker 2: saying Jay Jones is not practiced this week. That's not

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Speaker 2: a good trend.

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Speaker 3: So the story kind of last week was where's Calvin Ridley?

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Speaker 3: What's up with Calvin Ridley? How did they cover ridley

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Speaker 3: last catch?

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Speaker 2: And is that something they can grow out of continue

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Speaker 2: to build upon. Well, he had one catch, okay, And

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Speaker 2: if you look at the numbers Kirk had, you know,

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Speaker 2: the six touches for ninety Evan Ingram, five for forty five.

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Speaker 2: Tim Jones even had more than Calvin Ridley. He had

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Speaker 2: two catches for seventeen yards. But I will say that

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Speaker 2: the Saints were given plenty of attention to Calvin Ridley,

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Speaker 2: and so some of the other guys were able to

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Speaker 2: benefit from that attention. They were doubling them a little bit.

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Speaker 2: And that's gonna happen. I mean, when you've got a

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Speaker 2: top receiver, teams were gonna look at trying to find

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Speaker 2: a way to limit his effectiveness. And that's what teams

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Speaker 2: are doing. Are they looking at doubling Zay Jones when

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Speaker 2: he's out there, not necessarily. Are they looking at doubling

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Speaker 2: Evan Ingram not necessarily, But they're playing some bracket stuff

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Speaker 2: on Calvin. They're playing some occasional bracket stuff on Christian

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Speaker 2: Kirk as well, and that's just part of it. I

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Speaker 2: think part of it also is that when the more

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Speaker 2: that Calvin is in this offense and the more opportunities

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Speaker 2: he gets to continue to build the relationship with Trevor,

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Speaker 2: the better that's gonna get, you know. And this week,

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Speaker 2: who knows. I mean, just like last year, Calvin would

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Speaker 2: have Calvin Kirk would have a big game, and then

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Speaker 2: Zay would have a big game, and then Evan would

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Speaker 2: have a big game. You know what, maybe this week

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be Calvin's turn, you know. So I mean,

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Speaker 2: you just don't know. And that's the beauty I think

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Speaker 2: of a Press Taylor Doug Peterson offense is that they

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Speaker 2: don't have to necessarily depend on one guy to get

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Speaker 2: the production. They depend on the system to dictate which

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Speaker 2: guy is gonna get the production. And that's sometimes the

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Speaker 2: best system to have is one that allows the quarterback

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Speaker 2: to throw the ball to the open guy instead of going, Okay,

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Speaker 2: there's my guy, and I got to force it to him.

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Speaker 2: So Doug Peterson, show j P.

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Speaker 3: Shadwick, Jeff Logoman, and Jeff we're gonna have you design

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Speaker 3: the offensive plan for TJ. On the other side, how

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Speaker 3: do you handle one of the best defenders in the

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Speaker 3: National Football League this week?

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Speaker 2: You want to know? I do want them. That's why. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 2: Number one, okay, etn Okay, Number four Tank Biggs be okay,

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Speaker 2: and number twenty five Darros Johnson. Okay. Those have been

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Speaker 2: three running backs that have been active lately. Okay to

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Speaker 2: Michael Hasty has been a hot minute. Okay, when when

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Speaker 2: they are in the backfield on their way out, Okay,

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Speaker 2: because Anton Harrison is going to get the primary assignment

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Speaker 2: of blocking ninety, they've got to put a helmet right

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Speaker 2: in a ribcage of ninety Okay, the tight end's got

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Speaker 2: to chip him on the way out. You've got to

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Speaker 2: put some attention on him, okay. And I mean when

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Speaker 2: you put attention on him, make him feel it so

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Speaker 2: that the next time when he sees a flash of

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Speaker 2: white or teal, whichever jersey we're wearing. I haven't seen

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Speaker 2: that yet, Okay, whatever color that is going to be,

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Speaker 2: that the first thing that he's thinking about is is

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Speaker 2: that I'm going to get a helmet in my ribs

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Speaker 2: again white jersey'steal pants? Cool? But I want him to

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Speaker 2: think that, and so you try to establish that early

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Speaker 2: by cutting him by putting a running back into his

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Speaker 2: rib cages, which is called a chip, and in some

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Speaker 2: cases it's called a chunk, which means that you're not

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Speaker 2: just trying to get a chip, you're trying to get

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Speaker 2: a chunk of him on the way out. Okay, I

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Speaker 2: think you've got to do that. Be something to watch

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Speaker 2: for sure, because he can run a game for you.

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Speaker 2: The other guy's pretty good too, now, high Smith. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So which side do you you focus on? Water? You

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Speaker 2: focus on the other side. Well, if you're if you're

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Speaker 2: chunking on one side, you're sliding to the other side. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so that helps Cam a little bit. But high Smith

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Speaker 2: is a good football player too. I mean, the guy

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Speaker 2: had fourteen and a half sacks last year. He's good.

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Speaker 2: And it's interesting too. Like I said earlier, they take

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Speaker 2: they've been flopping the lane imbackers actually while the offense

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Speaker 2: is getting lined up, so that it's hard for the

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Speaker 2: offense to get a bead on on where ninety is

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Speaker 2: gonna be at. And they did that against the Rams.

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Speaker 2: Will will that continue this week against the Jaguars? I

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Speaker 2: don't know, but I will say that the Pittsburgh Steelers,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure went and watched the film of the Kansas

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Speaker 2: City Chiefs game and saw that they didn't provide any

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Speaker 2: help to Anton Harrison when Chris Jones was lined up

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Speaker 2: out there. And I'm sure that they're going to sit

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Speaker 2: there and go, oh, we hope we get that.

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Speaker 3: You know what helps running the football too, Let those

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Speaker 3: guys get always always. I mean, it's you know, it's

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Speaker 3: a lot better and a lot easier to protect the

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Speaker 3: passer when it's third and two or three as opposed

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Speaker 3: to third and eight, third and seven, third and eleven

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Speaker 3: and that obviously plays a big part in it, and

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Speaker 3: consistency on offense, you know, not having negative plays, not

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Speaker 3: having mistakes, penalties or whatever. Which, by the way, the

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Speaker 3: Jaguars have been doing a great job with the penalty situation.

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Speaker 3: I think they're the number one team in the league

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Speaker 3: at penalties per game.

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Speaker 2: With the fewest, which is awesome. They're like third in

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Speaker 2: the league and total penalties, fewest penalties, like they're they're

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Speaker 2: really really strong. Yeah, but perals are too. By the way,

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Speaker 2: Steelers that have a penalized much. Yeah, I wrote it

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Speaker 2: down because the fewest penalties in the National Football League

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Speaker 2: per game, Yeah, the Jaguars number one because some teams

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Speaker 2: have had some bye weeks, et cetera. So that's a

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Speaker 2: that's a great number. And the fewest yards per game

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Speaker 2: the average per game is four point seven. The yards

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Speaker 2: on the penalties thirty six yards per game. That I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's how you play winning football.

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Speaker 3: We'll turning a moment and Charles Davis, analysts for CBS Sports,

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Speaker 3: as the call this week and the Jaguars Steelers matchup.

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Speaker 3: We'll hear from him next to the Doug Peterson Show

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Speaker 3: on Jaguars Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. The dub Peterson Show continues right now.

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Speaker 3: Doug Peterson Show presented by Fresh from Florida, J P. Shadwick,

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Speaker 3: with you more Jeff Logman coming up shortly. Charles Davis

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Speaker 3: is the analyst for CBS Sports this week, working with

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Speaker 3: Iron Eagle caught up with Davis earlier in the week

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Speaker 3: and plenty to discuss about the Jaguars in twenty twenty three,

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Speaker 3: including quarterback Trevor Lawrence's performance on one good knee last

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Speaker 3: Thursday night.

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Speaker 5: Quarterbacks, just by being quarterbacks sometimes get that, oh, how

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Speaker 5: tough are they type of a deal. I'm old enough

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Speaker 5: to remember when quarterbacks were a lot tougher than people

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Speaker 5: ever gave them credit for. Because you and I both know.

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Speaker 5: If we punch up the NFL films on YouTube or

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Speaker 5: whatever right now, and watch what a quarterback at quarterback

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Speaker 5: went through getting hit in the pocket in the nineteen

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Speaker 5: eighties and the nineties versus now, and there are no flags.

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Speaker 5: A referee would come by and go, okay, you getting up,

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Speaker 5: that was it? I mean, and you, darnie took a

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Speaker 5: two by four and hit those guys. And back then,

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Speaker 5: those quarterbacks were of a certain size right of a

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Speaker 5: certain dimension. Think about those quarterbacks of those days, Marina,

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Speaker 5: Jim Kelly, Boomer, Siasin, Phil Simms, Jim McMahon now McMahon.

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Speaker 5: He took a lot of hits, but he always he

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Speaker 5: would play through when he could, but he ended up

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Speaker 5: missing it. A lot of those guys didn't miss games.

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Speaker 5: They dragged themselves back out. Steve McNair's toughness is legendary.

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Speaker 5: Now what those hits are now flags, suspensions, findes, all

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Speaker 5: those things.

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Speaker 4: So it's a little bit different.

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Speaker 2: As we're going.

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Speaker 5: Trevor Lawrence looks like an old school quarterback in dimensions,

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Speaker 5: he looks like a new school quarterback when the hair

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Speaker 5: flows out of the helmet and he takes his helmet

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Speaker 5: off and everybody goes, my god, look at him. You know,

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Speaker 5: he looks he looks like your next door pretty guy.

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Speaker 5: But his ability to play through things and toughness, what

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Speaker 5: he did Thursday night in New Orleans, that's where all

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Speaker 5: the memes of that's my quarterback actually apply in a

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Speaker 5: positive manner because now you can rally around that quarterback,

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Speaker 5: Your team will rally around you, your defense will go,

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Speaker 5: look at our quarterback. We can play for him, not

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Speaker 5: just your offense. The rest of the team just goes,

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Speaker 5: my goodness, we got a tough guy quarterback and JP,

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Speaker 5: you know you've been around this league. Any team that

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Speaker 5: has a tough guy quarterback is well ahead of the

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Speaker 5: game because the rest of the team will buy in

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Speaker 5: on you.

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Speaker 3: Now, Charles Davis with the CBS Sports, you know, this

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Speaker 3: offense really hasn't had its full arsenal a lot this season.

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Speaker 3: Ay Jones has missed four games and he's had to

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Speaker 3: come out of two others with his knee issues, so

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Speaker 3: he's really only finished one game this year. When he's

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Speaker 3: out there, that kind of changes the whole coverage idea

649
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Speaker 3: for defenses, and then the running game can get involved.

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00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 3: Travis Etn stepped in and scored two touchdowns and now

651
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Speaker 3: three straight games, the first Jaguar.

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Speaker 2: To ever do that. But when they're at full strength

653
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Speaker 2: and you've seen them this year, what can they be?

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Speaker 3: And they I don't think they've touched that ultimate Jaguar

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Speaker 3: of defense production that they're hoping for this year.

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Speaker 5: No, I think that they can be the type of

657
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Speaker 5: team that has answers for whatever you throw at them. Okay,

658
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Speaker 5: you want a pressure Trevor Lawrence, I think he handles

659
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Speaker 5: blitz as well and will step up in the pressure

660
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Speaker 5: and can get rid of it quickly to people. Right,

661
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Speaker 5: he has people to do that. You want to give

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Speaker 5: him time and drop back. He'll survey the field and

663
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Speaker 5: have the patience and take the checkdowns when necessary to

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Speaker 5: keep it going. What's the expression all the quarterbacks do use?

665
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Speaker 5: You never go broke taking a profit?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 5: Okay, so I can speak a little quarterback myself.

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Speaker 4: All right?

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Speaker 5: The running game with ETN. I think the offensive line

670
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Speaker 5: is starting to really develop their own identity because last

671
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Speaker 5: time we saw you, JP, you're getting ready for a

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Speaker 5: game with Kansas City and you had offensive linemen who

673
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 5: were really dinged up and we weren't sure they could go.

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Speaker 5: Every one of them went in that game. So that

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Speaker 5: tells me something about that offensive line. Now you got

676
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Speaker 5: Cam Robinson back, didn't have him last time we saw you.

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure about Walker Little and his ability to

678
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Speaker 5: play left guard yet we shall see. But Tyler athlete.

679
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Speaker 5: He's like, Hey, anytime you want me to play, I'm

680
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 5: here for it. Fortner Sheriff, and I really think Antwine

681
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Speaker 5: Harrison's coming along nicely as a rookie at right tackle.

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Speaker 5: I think they're starting to take on some tough guy,

683
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Speaker 5: you know, vibes of their own. But I do think

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Speaker 5: that they have the mobility to move into run game

685
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Speaker 5: when you want them to. They will take care of

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Speaker 5: their quarterback. As I said before, whatever you want to

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Speaker 5: throw out them. I feel like this offense is starting

688
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Speaker 5: to develop the idea that we've got answers for it.

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Speaker 5: You want to let us run it, we'll run it.

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00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 5: You want to let us throw it, We'll throw it,

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Speaker 5: whatever fashion that that may be.

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Speaker 3: The Pitsburg Steelers have won two in a row. Now

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Speaker 3: are they back? Are they on track? Are they they

694
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 3: were a little underachieving early in the season.

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Speaker 2: What are they now?

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00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 5: I think back is too strong? Are they on better course? Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: Their issue to.

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Speaker 5: Me is nothing that's new, Nothing that I'm going to identify.

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00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 4: That you have neither read scene heard.

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Speaker 5: Their ability, their inability to start faster on offense is

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Speaker 5: the puzzle for them. Canny Pickett does a wonderful job

702
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Speaker 5: as their quarterback down the stretch, and he's won some

703
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Speaker 5: big games in.

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Speaker 2: The fourth quarter.

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Speaker 5: Going back to Baltimore on a Sunday night as a rookie,

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Speaker 5: going back to Baltimore this year earlier this season, going

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Speaker 5: back last week to Los Angeles and taking on the

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Speaker 5: Rams on the road. I think it the first time

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Speaker 5: they went out on the West Coast in ten to

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Speaker 5: ten tries or something like that. But you can't live

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00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 5: like that. That is not a seventeen game winning formula.

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00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 5: Tim Tebow did that well for the Broncos and went

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Speaker 5: to the playoffs, even throw a touchdown pass to Baybay

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Speaker 5: right to Damarius Thomas on a beautiful throw against Pittsburgh

715
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Speaker 5: in the playoffs. But is that sustainable where your defense

716
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Speaker 5: has to hang in there every week you can be

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Speaker 5: five of seventeen going into the fourth quarter and snap

718
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Speaker 5: it together and win. It is not sustainable. Can he

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Speaker 5: Pickett knows it? Pittsburgh knows it. I think they asked

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Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin about, Hey, do you ever dream about him

721
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 5: in consistency? Said every day? But he loves Kenny Pickett.

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Speaker 5: He knows that he can get there. Getting the Johnson

723
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Speaker 5: back of receiver will help them do that. But they've

724
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Speaker 5: got to find a way to play better earlier and

725
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,320
Speaker 5: take someone the pressure off of their defense, which continues

726
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 5: to be what Pittsburgh always has. An excellent defense.

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Speaker 2: Is Charles Davis of CBS Sports.

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Speaker 3: He'll have the call as the analyst on Sunday in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: The full conversation available coming up this weekend on the

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Speaker 3: Official Jaguars Podcast Network and Jaguars dot Com. Well return

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Speaker 3: with sound from George Pickens to the locker room, throwing

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Speaker 3: shade to the Jags defense. Hot off the presses. It's

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Speaker 3: the Doug Peterson Show on the Jaguars Radio Network.

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Speaker 2: No personal tation, George.

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Speaker 1: Why has Jacksonville been susceptible for the past? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think they have one of the worst pass defense,

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Speaker 1: especially last three games. I think their last Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think their D line.

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Speaker 2: They depend on their with their team, you know, having

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Speaker 2: a lot of first round guys on that D line.

741
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Speaker 4: That's they depend on the lot and they kind of,

742
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Speaker 4: you know, hope, you know what I mean, Hope the

743
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Speaker 4: guys hold out long enough. Hope.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of a hope defense, all right.

745
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Speaker 3: George Pickens jack the Steelers wide receiver in the locker

746
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Speaker 3: room today. That courtesy of Brian Batco of the Pittsburgh

747
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 3: Post Gazette on x earlier.

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00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 2: Welcome back to the Doug.

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Speaker 3: Peterson Show, presented by Fresh from Florida, well, the Jaguars

750
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Speaker 3: do have the thirty first ranked passing defense by yardage

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Speaker 3: per game in the NFL, seventeenth and yards per play,

752
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 3: but that's not quite I don't I don't think what

753
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 3: they need the Jaguars defense to have on their bulletin

754
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,359
Speaker 3: board down series here at the miller of Electric Center

755
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 3: right now, any kind of chip on those guys shoulders

756
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 3: look out.

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Speaker 2: That's a that's that's great. I mean, love it. It's awesome.

758
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: A hope defense. What do you think it means? I

759
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: love it? I mean, that's exactly what you want to

760
00:37:55,160 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 2: have if if you're wearing the teal, give me, give

761
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: me extra motivation. He already motivated. But okay, all right,

762
00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,760
Speaker 2: their best player right now, which is him. He's averaging

763
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 2: over eighteen yards a catch. He's a second year receiver

764
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Speaker 2: out of Georgia. That's gonna be super good when the

765
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 2: quarterback even gets better. But for him to say that

766
00:38:19,640 --> 00:38:25,359
Speaker 2: is extra motivation for every Jaguar defender. Every Jaguar player

767
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 2: is going to be talking smack to him now when

768
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,760
Speaker 2: he starts getting beat up, or when he goes across

769
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 2: the middle in his arms don't quite extend out like

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Speaker 2: they should a hope defense. I've never heard that term before.

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00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 2: It's interesting. I've never heard that term either. But I

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Speaker 2: can guarantee you one thing. There's a lot of creative

773
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 2: minds that play on this Jaguars defense, and they will

774
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 2: find a way to use the word hope and some

775
00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 2: kind of dig at him as they're beating him up.

776
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 2: I like that a little salty here. Heck yeah, bring

777
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,959
Speaker 2: it on, man, you want to talk a little smack

778
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 2: for the game about hope. Okay, come on, I hope

779
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 2: you can make it through the game. Wow, Okay, I

780
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: hope you don't get smashed when you go across the middle.

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00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,919
Speaker 2: You know, I mean, it's beautiful thing.

782
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Speaker 3: If if I seriously that that's that's like awesome. The

783
00:39:22,040 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 3: Jaguars are a hope defense.

784
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: Things happen. They hope they hold up. They hope they

785
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 2: I hope Cisco's got something for him. I hope Ray

786
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 2: Shawn's got something for him. Sure he probably will, knowing Ray.

787
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 2: I hope Darius has got a little something for him.

788
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 2: I think all the above. I hope Montera's got a

789
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 2: little little little buster for him. Buster gonna bust them up.

790
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Speaker 3: I hope to go in the locker room tomorrow and

791
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 3: ask about it about that.

792
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 2: I think that they will give you the the company like, hey,

793
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,920
Speaker 2: look we're just we're just gonna play hard, you know,

794
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,399
Speaker 2: we're not worrying about that. And then after the game,

795
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 2: you'll get the truth. So works always. After the game

796
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: you win, you'll get the truth. I love it though.

797
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 2: It's like the old days, man, the old rivalry stuff.

798
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:07,880
Speaker 2: It's what you call keeping receipts.

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Speaker 3: Then Trevor Lawrence talked about that this week with a

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Speaker 3: hashtag analyst thing that he tweeted out or put out

801
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Speaker 3: on X posted the other day.

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Speaker 2: Why not you know what? Yeah, he said, Yeah, I

803
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,359
Speaker 2: do keep receipts, not as many as some others, but

804
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,880
Speaker 2: we remember some of this stuff. We read all this thing.

805
00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 2: You know, we are all on the internet. So yeah,

806
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 2: we're keeping track. All going right, don't come back in

807
00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: December when we're winning games. Now there's there's the old

808
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 2: saying that you just you don't let the week leading

809
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: up to the game give the opponent anything that is

810
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 2: bulletin board worthy material. Okay, and George Pickens just violated that.

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Speaker 2: He violated it. And it's a very parent that he

812
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,879
Speaker 2: doesn't know anything about the Jaguars defense because he's saying

813
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Speaker 2: it's it's it's based on hope, like the front is

814
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Speaker 2: the only thing that's good. Look, I'm here to tell you, okay,

815
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Speaker 2: mister George Pickens. Okay, and this is not my ranking,

816
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 2: but there are quite a few Jaguar defensive backs that

817
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:18,479
Speaker 2: are considered Pro Bowl caliber worthy players right now. That's

818
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: not hope, Okay, that's fact. Okay. Cisco three interceptions, second

819
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Speaker 2: in the National Football League, Darius Williams number three rated

820
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Speaker 2: corner by PFF, number three rated corner by PFF. Tyson

821
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Speaker 2: Campbell when he's healthy, one of the best corners in

822
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Speaker 2: the league. Okay, what do you and one of the

823
00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 2: most physical safeties in Rayshawn Jenkins. Yep, I hope you

824
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 2: don't get into Rayshaw's neighborhood. Number two is gonna light

825
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 2: him up. Bootleggers, get ready.

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Speaker 3: Luke Combs is bringing two nights to the Growing Up

827
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Speaker 3: and Getting Old Tour to EverBank Stadium May third and fourth,

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Speaker 3: with different special guests each night. Tickets on sale now.

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Speaker 3: For more infro, visit EverBank Stadium dot com. Our final

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Speaker 3: thoughts and a preview of Jaguars All Access TV Coming

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Speaker 3: up next this the Doug Peterson Show on Jaguars Radio.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back. The Doug Peterson Show continues right now.

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Speaker 2: The Doug Peterson Show, presented by Fresh from Florida. Final

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Speaker 2: Moments the.

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Speaker 3: Jaguars and the Steelers coming up Sunday, one o'clock kickoff time.

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Speaker 3: We're on the air in Jacksonville on our flagship station

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Speaker 3: Then at twelve units countdown to kickoff here on the

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Speaker 3: Jaguars Radio Network. We'll take you right up to the

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Speaker 3: one oh two toe meeting leather time at the Confluence.

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Speaker 3: And Hey, it's a big ballgame for this Jaguars team

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Speaker 3: coming up tonight, Big TV show here in Jacksonville, Jaguars

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Speaker 2: Who you got, I gottavn Ingram, Martin O and Kai.

847
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Speaker 2: Should be a good showing tonight, Jaguars on a roll

848
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 2: four games in a row, and looking forward to seeing

849
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,399
Speaker 2: seeing all the fans turn out tonight and looking forward

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Speaker 2: to filling that energy.

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Speaker 3: Evan's really good man, really good at that stuff, and

852
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 3: obviously is signed back with the Jags this season and

853
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 3: extended and a great addition to this organization last year,

854
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,719
Speaker 3: played big obviously career year, and he's a big piece

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Speaker 3: of what they're doing right now. Certainly, he is a

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Speaker 3: first of all, a really good football player, which okay,

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Speaker 3: already number one, number one, Okay, good football player, and

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00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 3: he is is a really good fit for this offense.

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00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 3: And from talking to multiple defensive coordinators this year, when

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00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 3: they start talking about the Jaguars offense, he's one of

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00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 3: the first things that comes up, just because he presents

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00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 3: a lot of matchup issues for defensive coordinators. Do you

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Speaker 3: play him with a linebacker? Do you playing with a corner?

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Speaker 2: Are you playing with a fat and teams have tried

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Speaker 2: all of the above, but yet Evan still continues to

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Speaker 2: be a major factor. And what else also impressive is

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Speaker 2: how unselfish he is as a player, total team player.

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Speaker 2: Logs have a string music for me over there at

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Speaker 2: Strengths today. Thank you. That's Jeff Logoman.

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Speaker 3: Thanks to our entire crew, Joe Fortunato, Brent Reever, Andrea Curry,

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Speaker 3: Nick Cortes, William P's Kate Waski.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to you for listening and watching.

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Speaker 3: It's the Doug Peterson Show on the Jaguars Radio Network.