WEBVTT - Let's Get Bibi 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.960 Hell I Suck At Dating with Dengler Jared Haven and 0:00:05.080 --> 0:00:12.719 I heart radio podcast. Jared. You want to bring soon? Okay? 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:17.560 Got you? Hey? Welcome back What is up? Skaters? Welcome 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:20.520 to the all new episode of Help I Suck At 0:00:20.600 --> 0:00:23.400 Dating The Way It is over. We are finally back 0:00:23.560 --> 0:00:27.840 Jared and I both recording from our respective locations. Obviously, 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:29.640 if you listen to last week's episode, it was Kaylin 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:31.720 and I were co hosting. The week before that, Jared 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:34.120 and actually we're co hosting this week. We are back 0:00:34.159 --> 0:00:36.320 to our standard format. We've got a great episode for 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:38.720 you guys. Not only are Jared and I back together, 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:43.320 but we also have Bibiana Julian from Bachelor Colton season, 0:00:43.360 --> 0:00:47.400 Bachelor Paradise, Bachelor Winter Games is gonna be joining us. 0:00:47.920 --> 0:00:50.279 She actually is hosting What a Girl Wants this week 0:00:50.320 --> 0:00:53.600 as well. More on that later, Jared, I haven't talked 0:00:53.600 --> 0:00:55.440 to you, actually, I don't think in a couple of weeks, 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:57.959 aside from a couple of texts. So fill me in, man, 0:00:57.960 --> 0:01:01.080 what's going on? How are you just living to? Holidays 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:03.480 are amongst us, but you know, COVID still around, so 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:07.000 that's just ruining everything I'm doing. Well though. Ashley and 0:01:07.000 --> 0:01:10.119 I are are doing well. Families healthy, everybody's doing well. 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:12.800 It's all you can ask for right now. Also, just 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:14.600 to mention, we do have coming up on the podcast, 0:01:14.680 --> 0:01:16.280 just to tease, you know a little bit more. We 0:01:16.319 --> 0:01:21.240 have Justine and Caleb from Love Island us A season two, uh, 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:24.360 and they left the show together and very happily in love. 0:01:24.400 --> 0:01:26.000 So we're gonna catch up with them and see what's 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:28.200 going on in their world and in my world. Bro, 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:30.800 I don't know, it's pretty boring. Like we're putting up 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:33.640 a Christmas tree. That's always fun, so like celebrating the 0:01:33.640 --> 0:01:36.800 holidays very early because there's nothing else to do, Like 0:01:37.280 --> 0:01:41.240 it's you know what else are you gonna do? Let 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:42.920 me ask you this. So you put the Christmas tree up, 0:01:42.959 --> 0:01:45.720 and this is in Rhode Island or this is in Virginia. 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:48.960 So we're on the we're staying on the East coast 0:01:49.000 --> 0:01:51.000 for the holidays. Just we're gonna there's there's not much 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:52.320 for us to be doing in l A. So we're 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:57.640 gonna be here for the The tree is erect, but 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:01.400 is it decorated at the moment currently being decorated We 0:02:01.480 --> 0:02:05.160 started last night, so yeah, Ashley's parents has a big 0:02:05.200 --> 0:02:08.440 four A and uh, the trees like twenty ft tall. 0:02:08.880 --> 0:02:10.959 It's like the New Year's Rocket, what is it the 0:02:11.040 --> 0:02:13.840 Rockefeller Center tree? Except better because if you saw pictures 0:02:13.880 --> 0:02:17.080 of that one, it's disgusting right now. Yeah, this one's great, 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:19.800 and there's a lot of fun ornaments on there. There's 0:02:20.080 --> 0:02:23.880 child pictures of both Lauren and Ashley, which are both 0:02:24.080 --> 0:02:27.360 and equally embarrassing. So that's fun putting those right front 0:02:27.360 --> 0:02:30.320 and center in front of the front door. Um, and 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:33.600 then yeah, I'm trying to think what else have I 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:36.880 been doing? Man? Living a very board life. Oh, we 0:02:36.880 --> 0:02:39.200 were on Bachelorette. That was cool. I forgot about that. 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:43.120 You guys were in the on the classroom date. Yeah, 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:46.040 so that was a lot of fun to film. Let's 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:47.880 talk about that a little bit. So you actually had 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:50.320 a chance to kind of meet some of Tastia's guys 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:52.720 obviously before we were introduced to them on the TV show. 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.440 So what were I think you can speak freely on 0:02:55.480 --> 0:02:57.600 this because it's already aired and we already obviously know 0:02:57.680 --> 0:02:59.480 you're there. What were your first impressions of the guys 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:00.920 that you were able to me? Which ones did you 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:04.280 like which ones didn't you like? So have you been watching? Um, 0:03:04.480 --> 0:03:07.800 I watched the last episode and then the other couple episodes, 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.160 like sporadically but not too deep. But you have like 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:13.399 a general idea of who the guys are. Yeah, dude, 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:15.639 she's got a good group. I'm not gonna lie when 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:17.800 I at least on the group date. The guys that 0:03:17.919 --> 0:03:21.239 I met and interacted with all very down earth, all 0:03:21.280 --> 0:03:26.360 super cool. I really enjoyed just hanging around with them. Uh, 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:29.040 and they were so fun and upbeat about the entire 0:03:29.040 --> 0:03:32.000 group date there, there didn't seem to be one person 0:03:32.280 --> 0:03:36.320 who was a Debbie downer. Bennett's the man Love Bennett, 0:03:36.360 --> 0:03:39.840 big fan of him. Um. He also knows the Winkl bosses, 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:41.960 which is another reason why I'm a big fan of him. 0:03:42.000 --> 0:03:44.480 And uh, dude, it was fun. Like So we we 0:03:44.520 --> 0:03:46.960 went down to La Quinta a few months ago. We 0:03:47.000 --> 0:03:49.240 had to quarantine there, so they put us in a 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:52.000 hotel room. But it was a nice little area that 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.800 Ashley myself and of course Lois had to come she 0:03:54.960 --> 0:03:58.200 was there too, and we had a little backyard area. Um, 0:03:58.480 --> 0:04:01.800 so we had to stay inside, had our designated room 0:04:02.000 --> 0:04:05.240 for I think three full days before we could see anybody, 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:08.000 and then on the fourth day we got tested, and 0:04:08.000 --> 0:04:09.880 then on the fifth day we got tested and as 0:04:09.880 --> 0:04:12.160 long as we had two negatives. On the sixth day 0:04:12.320 --> 0:04:17.040 was when we entered the bubble and filmed. It was cool. 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:21.440 It was dude, you know, like, I don't know, have 0:04:21.480 --> 0:04:23.640 you done like any cameos in the show since being 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:27.080 a cast member? I don't think so. Um, it's a 0:04:27.120 --> 0:04:29.080 lot better. You know how you're a cast member and 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:33.159 you just you have no rights. You are you You're 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:35.080 just not a human being at the time, Like you 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:39.160 can't have your phone, you can't know anything, You're locked down. 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:41.920 You just go wherever producers tell you, like here, man. 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:43.520 It was just like as soon as we got our 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:45.960 two negatives the morning before we filmed, like I walked 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:47.520 down to the coffee shop, I talked to some of 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:50.080 the producers, I saw Harrison like, it was just like 0:04:50.560 --> 0:04:52.960 you're a part of the crew. It was it's fun 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:55.120 Do they have your phone or did you have your 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:56.760 phone on yet? No, we had our phone the entire time. 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:58.680 It was funny because when we originally went down to 0:04:58.760 --> 0:05:00.880 La Quinta, we thought we were going for Claire. I 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:04.040 swear to God. So they called us about a week 0:05:04.080 --> 0:05:06.000 before we left and said, hey, could you guys come 0:05:06.040 --> 0:05:08.320 down for about a week because you have to quarantine 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:11.440 stuff and be a part of Claire's group date. We 0:05:11.520 --> 0:05:14.880 said sure, yeah, of course, And when we went down 0:05:14.880 --> 0:05:17.159 there still assumed that we were going to be on 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.400 a date with Claire. And then on the second or 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:22.159 third day we were quarantined to the hotel room. I 0:05:22.200 --> 0:05:23.720 was looking at my phone and all of a sudden, 0:05:23.760 --> 0:05:26.719 all these rumors that started blowing up that Claire was 0:05:26.880 --> 0:05:30.320 leaving the Bachelor, and I thought that Ashley about it, 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:32.719 and it was like, there's no way this is happening. Well, 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:35.680 it's obviously a farce and it's it's a whole bunch 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:38.760 of nothing. And then it started really picking up steam, 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:43.599 uh with social media. So then Ashley and I, because 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:45.360 we have a little back door area with a fence, 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:48.479 so we were standing on chairs just looking out to 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:50.880 see if we could see anything, whether we could see 0:05:50.920 --> 0:05:53.440 Tashia walked by, or if we could see Claire, or 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:55.839 just get any information because here we are in the 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:58.880 Bachelor at Bubble where they're filming, and we have no 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:00.919 idea what the hell is going on. So it was 0:06:00.960 --> 0:06:03.919 actually quite a fun few days trying to just gather 0:06:04.080 --> 0:06:09.039 information and then finally h the after we tested negative 0:06:09.080 --> 0:06:10.719 once the producer was allowed to come in with a 0:06:10.800 --> 0:06:14.880 mask on and uh, and he was like, so Tacious 0:06:14.880 --> 0:06:17.600 a bachelor, right, and uh, you will not be going 0:06:17.640 --> 0:06:19.000 on a group date with Claire, You'll be doing a 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:21.800 group day with Taia. Um. So it was. It was. 0:06:21.880 --> 0:06:23.440 It was kind of wild there for a little while, 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:25.760 but it was fun. Man. It's always fun going back. 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:28.440 And it's weird to say because as you know, like 0:06:30.000 --> 0:06:32.640 it's amazing how they can kind of not I don't 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:35.240 want to say screw you over, but you know, they're 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:40.520 out to make a television show. And I still love 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:47.360 the production. I still love the show. I it feels 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:51.239 it's gonna sound really corny, but it feels like my family. 0:06:51.880 --> 0:06:54.279 And it felt like that when we went down to film, 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.480 because we saw all the producers and hung out with them, 0:06:57.480 --> 0:06:59.039 and like I said, we got to, you know, hang 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:00.640 out with Chris Harrison, which out him on the phone 0:07:00.640 --> 0:07:05.600 for a little while afterwards, and um, and in seeing Tasia, 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:08.400 who we've been befriended over the past couple of years. Well, 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:10.080 you know she came to so many I heart and 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:14.880 festivals in Tahoe, and um, it was it was cool. 0:07:14.960 --> 0:07:18.360 It just felt it feels really nice to have a 0:07:18.440 --> 0:07:20.160 sense and you get this too, like a sense of 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:22.960 belonging nous to something, and that's what we get with 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:26.160 the show. Yeah, I would know what that feels like 0:07:26.160 --> 0:07:28.040 because they've never asked me and kill him to do anything. 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:31.120 So the belonging this that you feel is lost on 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:34.120 me since I have never been I've never feeling. But 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:36.400 this isn't This isn't about you guys invited back to 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:39.240 do the What was it you guys did the interview 0:07:39.320 --> 0:07:42.360 for the and you know they're inviting Ashley and I'm 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:45.520 just an extension of that. Irrelevant, irrelevant anyways, what were 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:47.120 your first impressions of the guys? Was there? I know 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:48.400 you said you liked a lot of them. A lot 0:07:48.400 --> 0:07:50.200 of them are down to earth and humble. Was there 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:52.840 anyone that kind of rubbed you the wrong way? Seriously? No, 0:07:53.400 --> 0:07:55.680 that was the crazy part. We're expecting some sort of 0:07:56.200 --> 0:08:00.640 villain or somebody who's gonna stir up some drama, and 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.480 nobody did. No. Granted, the nature of the group date 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:07.240 was very lighthearted. You know, we twizzed the guys on 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:10.520 math and geography and then we did like this, you know, 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:15.000 uh pull what is it? Pull tug whatever the hell 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:17.760 it is. He didn't sound right, but you know, pull tuggy. 0:08:18.080 --> 0:08:20.200 Uh what was I saying? Oh? And then there's actually 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:22.240 one part of the date that got edited out, but 0:08:22.320 --> 0:08:24.920 it was it was fun. So there was this bag 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:30.240 of all feminine products and the guy, so one guy 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:33.520 was sitting in a chair facing away from the other 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.200 guy who his his teammate, who had to pick a 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:39.319 product out of the bag and try to explain what 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:41.360 it was to the guy who couldn't see, and then 0:08:41.360 --> 0:08:43.000 the guy who couldn't see had to guess what the 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:45.480 product was. So that was a lot of fun. You know. 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:48.080 They would pull out like obviously one that was used 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:50.840 was a tampon or a maxi pad, and they were like, oh, 0:08:50.920 --> 0:08:54.240 it goes, it's it stops. You know, this happens once 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:57.480 a month and this thing like goes and stops, you know, 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:00.400 and so it was. It was It was quite hmicle 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:03.599 um h, dude, nobody run me the wrong way like 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:06.240 I'm trying to, you know, I know, Chason and Ed 0:09:06.320 --> 0:09:09.800 had their big drama throughout the episode, but that really 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.640 didn't show its colors on our group date. That must 0:09:12.640 --> 0:09:15.840 have happened much later. Um, yeah, what was it awkward 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:18.240 and Bennett leaning in for that kiss? Oh yeah, it 0:09:18.280 --> 0:09:21.199 was super awkward. It was great though, because it's so 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:24.200 it's such a Bennett move, you know. So we awarded 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:28.320 Bennett with the the Grown ass Man plaque and of 0:09:28.360 --> 0:09:30.920 course he stood up there with his bathrobe as if 0:09:30.960 --> 0:09:34.679 he was in front of the paparazzi, like posing with Tasha. 0:09:35.040 --> 0:09:36.600 It's like, oh god, and then he went in for 0:09:36.600 --> 0:09:38.720 a kiss in front of all the other dudes. And 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:40.960 I don't think it wasn't that Tasha didn't want to 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:43.680 kiss Bennett. I actually think she's she's kind of intrigued 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:47.160 by him, but you just don't do it in front 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:49.200 of other guys. And I could all of us knew, 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:52.080 Like Tasha just felt so awkward because she's like, I 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:57.640 everybody's watching and okay, we're kissing. Um, so it was. 0:09:57.679 --> 0:10:01.200 It was. It was pretty cringe worthy, but it's you know, 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:04.480 it almost didn't matter because it's better and he's such 0:10:04.480 --> 0:10:07.640 a caricature of himself that it's you know, you kind 0:10:07.640 --> 0:10:11.240 of just laugh at it. Does it make you didn't 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:13.800 make you miss being on the show at all? No, 0:10:14.200 --> 0:10:16.320 Oh my god, it made me so happy that we 0:10:16.320 --> 0:10:18.200 weren't a part of the show. Not to say, like 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:20.240 I said, I love the show. I love everything about it. 0:10:20.280 --> 0:10:25.000 But as you can attest, being on the show itself, uh, 0:10:25.160 --> 0:10:27.839 is not as glorious as it appears. You know, you're 0:10:27.960 --> 0:10:30.360 very restricted on where you can go, what you can do. 0:10:30.800 --> 0:10:32.719 You're cut off from the outside world. You can't talk 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:36.640 to family or friends. Um. You know, especially for these guys, 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:38.800 there's no traveling involved, so they don't really have quote 0:10:38.840 --> 0:10:41.240 unquote days off because when you travel on the show, 0:10:41.400 --> 0:10:43.640 you get to at least not be on camera and 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:46.600 miked up. You can kind of just not feel like 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:49.640 you're walking on eggshells constantly. And these guys don't get 0:10:49.679 --> 0:10:53.480 it because they're just they're stuck at this resort. Uh. 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:55.640 And then we'll see that again obviously Matt James season, 0:10:55.640 --> 0:10:58.360 because they're filming right now, and uh, I think Pittsburgh. 0:10:58.400 --> 0:11:01.319 I think that's where the resort is. But no, man, 0:11:01.520 --> 0:11:03.960 it didn't make me miss being on the show. Is 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:07.240 his season and filming entirely in Pennsylvania, Yeah, they're doing 0:11:07.240 --> 0:11:09.040 the same thing. They rented at a resort once again, 0:11:09.040 --> 0:11:11.880 and they're going to film all in one location. Oh, 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:13.760 I just figured that they were going from resort to 0:11:13.800 --> 0:11:16.120 resort within the US, but that guess that makes more 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:17.560 sense for them to be over there. But you didn't 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:19.960 make a good point, because the fondest days that I 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:23.000 have to remember our time on Bachelorrette war the days 0:11:23.400 --> 0:11:25.319 of traveling, like when we were in Norway and we've 0:11:25.320 --> 0:11:26.800 got to like just walk around with no Mike's, no 0:11:26.920 --> 0:11:28.360 cameras or anything like that and just like kind of 0:11:28.440 --> 0:11:30.800 like like cooper around for the entire time. Do you 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:37.080 have camera that's like your favorite of from filming? Um, 0:11:37.200 --> 0:11:40.120 I don't know about that. I just remember specifically when 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:43.160 we were in Denmark. Uh. It was like me, Peter 0:11:43.240 --> 0:11:45.560 and Alex and Adam all went into like this big 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:47.400 fish market together and like spent the day explaining the 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:49.200 fish market and we were like, you know, like drinking 0:11:49.200 --> 0:11:50.679 beer and like getting good food and like all this 0:11:50.720 --> 0:11:52.199 stuff that you would just do on a normal day, 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.320 like if you were a tourist in Denmark. Uh, And 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:56.040 those were the days that were like those were the 0:11:56.200 --> 0:11:58.640 actually like you, like you said, you're not walking on eggshells. 0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:01.000 You can actually like kind of like relax a little bit, 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:03.920 uh and like let like let loose and like laugh 0:12:03.960 --> 0:12:05.640 and crack jokes at each other. Like obviously you're doing 0:12:05.640 --> 0:12:07.920 all those things otherwise, but it just like was a 0:12:08.000 --> 0:12:10.960 less pressure. I guess you could say that day. Um, 0:12:11.000 --> 0:12:13.040 and you're right, these guys not having that, like that's 0:12:13.080 --> 0:12:15.160 gotta be brutal because those are the only days that 0:12:15.200 --> 0:12:17.160 you could use to like decompress. And if you can't 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:20.360 decompress and you're so yeah, you need that. You need 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:24.400 like I've realized that I need guy time. You know, 0:12:24.520 --> 0:12:27.120 I need to just be able to say things that 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:30.079 I don't have to be concerned about saying in front 0:12:30.120 --> 0:12:32.880 of my friends and not be judged for you know, 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:36.240 that's why golf is so great. You know, it's like Vegas. 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:39.400 What happens on the golf course stays on the golf course. Well, 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:41.120 let me ask you this, of all the guys and 0:12:41.200 --> 0:12:43.240 having met a few of them and now seeing them 0:12:43.240 --> 0:12:48.280 on television, which ones are your front runners? Uh? So 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:51.960 Ben is definitely a front runner. They definitely had some 0:12:52.040 --> 0:12:53.559 chemistry between the two of them. He was on the 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:59.120 group date I'd say this guy, no uh, the mustache guy, 0:12:59.320 --> 0:13:01.400 the guy that you know, it's just like the poor 0:13:01.400 --> 0:13:05.080 man's version of you no offense to Noah. Uh knows. 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:07.439 You know, very good looking man, but you know, there 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:10.679 are very few Deans in the world. And so he 0:13:10.720 --> 0:13:13.120 had the mustache and then obviously shaved it off. And 0:13:13.120 --> 0:13:16.559 there's only one man. Ashley and I said this, uh um, 0:13:16.800 --> 0:13:18.560 we did like this recap forty News and we said 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:20.959 this that there's only one guy in the franchise that 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.280 can have a mustache, and that man is Dean, and 0:13:23.360 --> 0:13:26.400 Dean is allowed to have that mustache whenever he wants. Um. Thanks, 0:13:26.400 --> 0:13:29.280 I appreciate that. I'd say no, uh, I'd say Ben, 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.560 And then I guess those are like my two very 0:13:33.000 --> 0:13:35.400 front runners as of right now. But it's also I'm 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:37.360 just basing this off the last episode, so who the 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:39.760 hell knows what's gonna happen. You know, it's funny because 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:41.560 I've got it. I had a man crush on Ben too. 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:43.160 Watching the season. I was like, oh my god, he's 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:46.680 so cute. He seems smart while spoken, he's like super invitation. 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:48.920 I like Ben, and then like the more I watched him, 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:51.400 and then I think I like creeped his Instagram and uh, 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:52.920 Cayl and I were sitting right next to each other 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:54.120 as we were doing all this, and I was like, 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:57.480 I started getting major f boy vibes from him, and uh, 0:13:57.760 --> 0:13:59.480 obviously it takes one to know one, you know, So 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:02.920 I think that speaking from experience here, Uh, but I 0:14:03.280 --> 0:14:05.559 do agree. I still think he's probably my front runner 0:14:05.600 --> 0:14:09.439 as well, but I would try proceed with caution were 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:11.880 in the atatious shoes. I agree with you. I like Ben, 0:14:12.000 --> 0:14:16.000 but he does seem to just say the right things 0:14:16.200 --> 0:14:19.240 way too much. It doesn't seem authentic. It seems like 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:23.160 he's not playing a playbook, but like, you know, saying 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:25.760 what he thinks he should say, which I guess is okay, 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:28.440 because you know, when you first start dating someone, you 0:14:28.520 --> 0:14:31.000 just want to, you know, make the best first impression 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:35.160 you can. But unfortunately, within the bachelor world, because everything 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:38.680 is so sped up, you need to kind of just 0:14:38.800 --> 0:14:41.440 let that part go and just dive right into a 0:14:41.520 --> 0:14:44.080 relationship and not worry about any type of first impressions. 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:46.240 You know, you want to know what I really like 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:49.480 to that I think is maybe an unpopular opinion. Is 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:53.160 I like Ed oh, I like it. Well, I like that. 0:14:53.360 --> 0:14:55.920 I just wish you would let go of whatever the 0:14:56.120 --> 0:15:00.360 Chasing feud he has. Yeah, well, that's thing. I think. 0:15:00.360 --> 0:15:03.080 I dislike Chasing so much that I like, I like, 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:06.520 I'm empathizing with Ed's wolverine, Baby Wolverine. You don't want 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:08.400 to see Wolverine. I can't believe you did the clause 0:15:08.560 --> 0:15:11.440 I met Chasing. Very nice guy, but dude, I cannot 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:14.320 believe you did the clause. He legitimately you don't want 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:16.400 to see the wolverine, and I was like, oh, Jesus Christ, 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:18.360 I'm surprised he didn't like that. I figured love Man 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:21.240 would like that more than anything. Dude, I love Logan, 0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:24.400 Hugh Jackman, big fan. But my god, could you imagine 0:15:24.440 --> 0:15:29.840 if I I love Man? That was so cringe worthy. 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:32.640 That was so bad. I'll never forget that. That was 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:40.080 obviously a a a partnership decision. Let me just say 0:15:40.120 --> 0:15:45.040 that wasn't me alone, Love Man. Jesus Christ. Oh god, hey, 0:15:45.120 --> 0:15:47.479 I think it was a great I think it exemplified 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:52.480 you in and well perfectly, and unfortunately it did. Unfortunately, 0:15:53.080 --> 0:15:54.800 once people met me, they were like, oh, yeah, this 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:57.320 totally makes sense now that dude is that dude is 0:15:57.400 --> 0:16:01.120 love man? But but yeah, I agree o Ben, Uh, 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:03.560 it is my sleeper. I think Bennett obviously has to 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:05.360 be in there because he I think he went to 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:09.360 Harvard or something, right, Yeah, he's too much of a 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:11.400 big character to be let go. Now he has to 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:15.160 like at least make it top six. Yeah, but it'll 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:18.680 be interesting to see what happens. I think, Uh, because 0:16:18.680 --> 0:16:20.720 this is your first season that you've actually like cameoed 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.600 on the main season, right, because you've been on Bachelor 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:25.280 Paradise a couple of times since then. I know that, 0:16:25.360 --> 0:16:28.600 but yeah, Paradise, but yeah, this is uh the first 0:16:28.600 --> 0:16:32.160 time yeah, we ever did a bachelorette Uh cameo. It 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:34.640 felt cool. It was just you know, I'm assuming that 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:38.920 they can't get the actual celebritisy, like so they have 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:42.359 to go with previous cast members because of COVID and quarantining. 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:45.360 You know, Ashton Kutcher is not going to quarantine in 0:16:45.360 --> 0:16:47.360 the Bachelor bubble to make a cameo, you know what 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:50.640 I mean. So, but for all those days you quarantine too. 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.080 It was a flat fee. It wasn't much obviously, but 0:16:54.200 --> 0:16:57.200 that's besides the point. Like just being asked to go back. 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:00.440 Is I've for Ashley and me? What Matt, there's most 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:02.720 it's just cool that, you know, not to rub it in, 0:17:02.800 --> 0:17:05.679 but we felt we felt pretty cool. Dude, you and 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:08.480 Caitlin are definitely gonna get asked back. Okay, that sounds 0:17:08.480 --> 0:17:10.200 really cool. It sounds like you guys had are really 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:15.919 fun time. Um, all right, well, we do have a 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.000 couple of great guests coming up. Like we said, next up, 0:17:18.440 --> 0:17:21.080 you know her you love her from Colton season? Is 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:23.359 that what we said? She's also on Winter Games, she 0:17:23.440 --> 0:17:25.600 was on Paradise, She's been on all the show's big 0:17:25.720 --> 0:17:29.240 hit fan favorite. But I think she was on our season. 0:17:29.240 --> 0:17:31.560 I take it back, Oh, she was on our season. 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:35.040 That's my bad. I misled you. So our season Bachelor, 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:37.760 Winter Games, Bachelor in Paradise. Yeah, I'm just gonna blame 0:17:37.760 --> 0:17:40.359 you for that, absolutely as you should. She's coming up next. 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:42.080 We're gonna talk to her for a little bit. We're 0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:43.800 gonna see what's going on in her life, and then 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:46.440 we're gonna jump to our Love Island interview as well, 0:17:46.800 --> 0:17:59.720 So stick around for that. We will be right back. Hey, 0:17:59.800 --> 0:18:02.120 well come back to help. I suck at dating all 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:05.320 you suck Army. We have a very special, wonderful, beautiful 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:07.560 guest who is on the line right now. I'll tell 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:11.439 you my wife, Ashley speaks of this person so highly. 0:18:11.920 --> 0:18:14.840 I'm not joking. I mean, it's Bibiana, but be Beyona, 0:18:14.840 --> 0:18:17.520 I'm not joking. When Ashley says that you might be 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:20.240 the prettiest girl that's ever been on the Batchelor, I 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:22.520 swear to god she said this before, so it's beyond 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:27.439 a Julian everybody, thank you. That's her reach. Because I 0:18:27.480 --> 0:18:30.880 feel that the ladies that go on this show are 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:34.960 all extremely beautiful. So I love Ashley so much. She's 0:18:35.000 --> 0:18:37.760 like the best hype girl. I know you guys, I 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:39.359 know it sucks. I wish you guys hung out more. 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:42.320 I know you lived down in Florida. Um, because you 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:45.400 were obviously on Winter Games, a season that I don't 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:48.680 speak of. But that's okay, But you guys became really 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:54.440 close throughout that experience. Yeah, Ashley was awesome. Um yeah, 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:57.120 we won't get into Winter Games. Yeah. Oh no, it's 0:18:57.119 --> 0:18:59.919 all right. I'm just teasing. Um. So how are you 0:19:00.000 --> 0:19:02.800 what are you up to? How's life? I'm good? I mean, 0:19:03.280 --> 0:19:07.200 life is life is going it's just funny. I was 0:19:07.240 --> 0:19:09.399 catching up with one of the producers that I'm pretty 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:11.560 close to and she's like, how are you, And I'm like, 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:15.920 I am twenty right now. Um, it's just like lots 0:19:15.920 --> 0:19:18.600 of ups and downs, normal stuff. I have like really 0:19:18.600 --> 0:19:20.520 good weeks and in other weeks it's just like one 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:24.560 does this year end, Oh my gosh, but overall very 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:28.600 good and healthy, so I can't complain good. I see you. 0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:32.520 That's the big takeaway too. As long as we're staying healthy, 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:37.520 that's the most important thing. Right, How are you guys doing? Oh, 0:19:37.600 --> 0:19:40.119 we're doing well. I'm actually so Like I said, I 0:19:40.119 --> 0:19:42.760