1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Ron Ananian, everyone's in the while eating a second opinion, 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: even me, right, and you've just got in a weird look. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 1: I always say, I'm not the smartest mechanic in the world. 4 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 1: I just know who to talk to them have the 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 1: Car Doctor? You have which so much fun on this 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: radio show. We really do you know? Somebody said to 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: me last week. You know, I like to listen to 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,280 Speaker 1: you guys, because especially when you guys talk together, because 9 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 1: you sound like they're having fun and if you joke around, 10 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: and boy, if they can only see what happens behind 11 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: the scene. Welcome to the radio home of Ron and 12 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: Nannian the Car Doctor, since this is where car owners 13 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 14 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 15 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: the phone and call in. The garage doors are open, 16 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: but I am here to take your call at eight 17 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: five five five six, And now he running. Hey, welcome 18 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 1: boy running and at your service. And uh, another busy 19 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: hour of calls lined up, I see, So let's uh, 20 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,960 Speaker 1: let's um, let's go over and talk to Rick in 21 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: Kentucky two thousand, Han to c r V and see 22 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:13,960 Speaker 1: what's going on here, Rick, Welcome to the car Doctor, Sir. 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: How can I help? Uh? H Iran, how are you 24 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: doing on big fund of your show. I've got a 25 00:01:20,280 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: two thousand hand to c r V that chokes out 26 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: when you turn the air conditioning on. Uh. The tachometer 27 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,320 Speaker 1: gage reads about four dred and fifty on the RPM. 28 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: I puked the scanner to it and it's showing the 29 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: RPMs at about seven thirty three, so there's a split there. 30 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: I changed out the idle air control valve and it 31 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: didn't fix it, but it made a little bit better, 32 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:50,000 Speaker 1: and the scanner doesn't show any fault codes and the 33 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: real time data looks like it's about normal as far 34 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 1: as I can tell. But I'm not an expert on it. 35 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: I took it to two Honda dealerships in the local 36 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: area to have them troubleshooting it, and both of them 37 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: um said that it's it's normal for those to do 38 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 1: that and it's a common problem, and they couldn't fix it. 39 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: One of them adjusted the idle the throttle body idle 40 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:18,920 Speaker 1: adjustment up to keep it from dying. Installing, but now 41 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: choosing a lot more fuel, Yeah, no, you don't want 42 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: to do that, you know, So here I'm gonna tell 43 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 1: you how to reset that. Okay, so you don't have 44 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: to go back to them. I think they're wrong for 45 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: doing that. Um, you know, basically, And and let's let's 46 00:02:30,720 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 1: start from the beginning. How about we take the throttle 47 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: body off? Can you? Can you take the throttle body off? 48 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: You've got mechanical ability, Rick, I just I don't say 49 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: that as a dig I'm just curious to know what 50 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 1: I'm working with, who I'm working with. Can you can 51 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: you take the throttle body off and clean it? If 52 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: I tell you too? Okay, So let's let's take the 53 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: throttle body off. Let's just make sure both sides of 54 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 1: the plate are clean, all right, and then you want 55 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: to set that minimum screw so that you know right now, um, 56 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: they've got a crank too far? Open all right? Back 57 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: the back that minimum stop off until the plate just 58 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: touches the housing and then open it just a crack 59 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: all right? You don't you don't want the plate to 60 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: touch the housing. The idea is that there's a minimum 61 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: idel stop, a hard stop, and then the idle air 62 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: control motor should be able to handle the load and 63 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,519 Speaker 1: deal with it all right, So let's let's get that 64 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 1: back to work in normal. Now, when you say you 65 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: turn on the air conditioning and the engine almost stalls, 66 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: is it that the you'll do this at idle, just 67 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: sitting there. No, So when does this happens? It seems 68 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: to be idling load. But and then when you turn 69 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: the A C on it wants to kind of choke 70 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: out a little bit and almost die. Okay, but but 71 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: it's it's doing this while you're sitting at idole. If 72 00:03:56,280 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: you're sitting at a traffic lighter in the driveway and 73 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 1: you turn the A C on, it will start to 74 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: choke out and die, right, But it won't do it 75 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: driving down the road. You're doing forty and you don't 76 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: notice it until now when you if you turn it on. 77 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: If you're doing forty miles an hour driving down the 78 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 1: road and you turn the A C on the next 79 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: stop sign you get to, will the engine struggle there 80 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: as well? No, So it's only when you turn the 81 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 1: A C on sitting at a traffic lighter stop sign, 82 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: or and let me finish the question, or if you 83 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: pull up to a traffic light, it's okay, the A 84 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: C cycles off because it's cold and offer pressure drops 85 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: and then when the a C comes back on sitting 86 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: at that stop sign, it will start to chug and 87 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: load up again. Exactly right. Okay do you have do 88 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: you have coolant hoses going to the idle air control valve? 89 00:04:54,560 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: Are they flowing coolant? Well? I don have any way 90 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: to check that started up? Disconnect this disconnect, disconnect the 91 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: hoses and disconnect the hoses and see if cooling comes 92 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: out of one of them. Make sure those hoses aren't 93 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: clogged if it doesn't circulate coolant. All right, This problem 94 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:27,360 Speaker 1: happens when it's warm, right, not when it's cold. Right, yes, right, 95 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: if this problem only happens when it's warm, because when 96 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: it's cold, it's got a faster idle correct, right, So 97 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:40,600 Speaker 1: if those hoses don't flow coolant, it can compromise how 98 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: that idle valve reacts and works and can cause this condition. Okay, Now, 99 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 1: next thing, do you have a scan tool? Did you 100 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 1: look at fuel trim? Yes? Sir, good boy? Do you 101 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: remember what it was? I've got the sects for waying 102 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: here in the book, wrote them down if I can. 103 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: If you're interested in what do you have? Okay, let 104 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: me find it here, um long f T I is 105 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: that one of them long term fuel trim? Yeah? Point 106 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: eight nine zero? All right? Zo are they giving it 107 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: to us in percentage? Are they giving it to us? 108 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 1: This is O B D two all right, So they're 109 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: splitting the hair. So it's about it. It's about one 110 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: percent long term fuel trim. What's short term? Six? Yeah? 111 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 1: So fuel trim is good, all right. I don't I 112 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,120 Speaker 1: don't have a fuel trim issue here. All right. So 113 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 1: and you're taking those readings where and idle cruising down 114 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: the road or what? And I don't once it swarmed up, 115 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:51,919 Speaker 1: all right, take a look at take a look at 116 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: fuel trim going down the road, just for giggles, you know, 117 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: well you'll typically see an older car like this. Long 118 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 1: term fuel trim. Oh you'll see he'll see a creep up, 119 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: you know, doesn't scare me. Short term might hit if 120 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: I start running more than that, I'm gonna start to 121 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: think about carbon deposit issues possibly up upper end carbonization 122 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: needed that kind of thing, all right? Now, where would 123 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: that be? Would that be like cleaning the intake manifold? Um, 124 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: that would be cleaning the intake cleaning and the throttle 125 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: plates clean. Right, you said you cleaned it. Well, I 126 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: cleaned what I could access without disassembling it. Okay, so 127 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: you know, now we're going to clean the backside of 128 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: it and see how dirty it is. But it would 129 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: also be um, you know, it wouldn't hurt. How many 130 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: miles were on this car two years old, hudious And 131 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: it's my wife's car and she drives slow and she 132 00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 1: drives short distances. Right, and we gotta fix this because 133 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: if Mama ain't happy, then Rick's not going to be happy. Well, 134 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: the gas mileage is it used to get a gas 135 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: mileage and now we're using we're losing about a week 136 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: per tank. So you have a you have a local 137 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 1: Orillyoto parts by you. Yeah, you know if you've got 138 00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:16,360 Speaker 1: an O'reillyoto parts by you, or go out online to 139 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: rallyota dot com see if you can get yourself one 140 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: of the Barriman fuel system cleaning kits. Barriman makes a 141 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: fuel injector cleaner kit. It's don't don't don't take offense 142 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: at the way I'm gonna say this, but it's kind 143 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: of idiot proof. It's real simple to use, and you 144 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: know it's it's something you can do in the driveway. 145 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: Just follow the directions and you're gonna a fuel system 146 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,520 Speaker 1: cleaner through the air intake duct and it will help 147 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: decarbonize the valves and clean the intake passage all the 148 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: way down. I mean, it's just good normal maintenance, especially 149 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 1: on something this age and this mileage. And you know Mama, 150 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,640 Speaker 1: Mama takes short trips all the place, all right, And 151 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 1: while it may not solve all of this problem or 152 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: any of this problem, it will likely deliver better fuel economy. 153 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,199 Speaker 1: And it's just a good maintenance thing to do. So 154 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: second point of contention, take your scan tool. Take a 155 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: look at cooling temperature. Is cooling temperature, it's cool in temperature, 156 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,719 Speaker 1: coming up to spec what's cooling temperature? When you think 157 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: this car is fully warmed up better than I'm looking 158 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: for it right now? Down to my list of notes. 159 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 1: You know, I write my own notes and I can't 160 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: read them. Um, the second you could be a doctor, 161 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 1: temperature was about Yeah, you're in the game. Okay. I 162 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: think the thermostatics a D seventy nine degrees on that car, 163 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: all right, so you're in the game. Um, you know 164 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 1: number one, number two, I think the Honda dealer is crazy. 165 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 1: I don't believe Honda would manufacture a vehicle and leave 166 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 1: it out there, and you know this is normal for them, 167 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: that the vehicle doesn't work right. How much bad press 168 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,760 Speaker 1: do you think they would get? Right? So I would 169 00:09:59,800 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: take to look at those, you know, I would take 170 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: a look at the cooling hoses. Listen, I'll never forget 171 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: about two years ago. Yet we have a customer with 172 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 1: an older Buick that she was taking to the old 173 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: car guru in the area and she she ended up 174 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: on my doorstep because the guy told her that, you know, 175 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 1: the car was hesitating. And the guy told her that, well, 176 00:10:20,600 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: General Motors made bad fuel injection this year. And I said, 177 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 1: so you're telling me General Motors, a major corporation in 178 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: this country, in the world, made all bad fuel injections 179 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: for model year and everybody had to live with hesitation installing. 180 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: And she said, well that's what he told me. Okay, 181 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:43,839 Speaker 1: bring it in. I remember this problem. It was a 182 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: ds V one. Wasn't with the delay valve you put 183 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: at the lay valve in the e g R host 184 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: at the lay the e g R valve opening up 185 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: by a second and a half solve the problem. She 186 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 1: looked at me like I was crazy. You know, you 187 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: gotta think in terms of the manufacturer when somebody says, hey, 188 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: they're all like that, they're not all like that. There's 189 00:11:00,280 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 1: a solution to this. We just haven't found it yet. 190 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:07,599 Speaker 1: Go do those things. Go ahead. They just don't know 191 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: how to fix it, and so they just they tell 192 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: you it's normal, and then you know, they get out 193 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: of it. They just don't want to eat eat either that. Listen, Rick, 194 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: did you go in there and say, hey, guys, I 195 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: don't want to spend any money fix my car? You 196 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: tell them to fix it and drop it off? Right? 197 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,559 Speaker 1: Is your Is your dollar bill as green as the 198 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: next guys? I hope? So? Okay, then they should fix 199 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: the car. And that's the bottom one, all right. And 200 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: if they don't want the job, then they're just looking 201 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: for the gravy or the easy stuff, all right, sir? 202 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: So go do those things? Follow up questions? Yeah, go ahead. 203 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: Do you have time for to follow up real quick questions? 204 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I do, But let me pull 205 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: over and take a pause and then we'll come back 206 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: to that. You stay put, Rick, I'm running any of 207 00:11:50,920 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 1: the car. Doctor will be back right after this need 208 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,439 Speaker 1: advice on how to maintain that classic gt O ron 209 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 1: is the guy five five zero zero zero. Here's Ron. 210 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: Let's go back to Rick and Kentucky. Rick, you're still there, 211 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,199 Speaker 1: sir um. And by the way, let's let's just talk 212 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: about the idol again real quick. We should mention I 213 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: should mention that it was important on these older hondas 214 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: that the ignition system is in tip top shape, good 215 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: spark plugs, Um, it would not be uncommon spark scatter. 216 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: Make sure base timing is set correctly, and make sure 217 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: you may want to take the distributor cap off and 218 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: just look, does it look like there's any kind of 219 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 1: arc marks or punched through going on around the ignition rotor, 220 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: because if this isn't if this is an older rotor 221 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: that hasn't been serviced, you may, you know, take it off, 222 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 1: flip it over to do you see any black carbon 223 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: tracking like arc scatters coming through and grounding on the 224 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: distributor shift? All right? And you know, yeah, it was 225 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: or is the weak link and when the ignition system 226 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: starts to die out, it will punch through and create 227 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: all kinds of issues. And let's face it, at idle 228 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 1: under a c you know, that's a that's a tough condition. 229 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: I'd be curious. And my guess is that it would stabilize. 230 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: Is if you're sitting in the in gear and the 231 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:30,719 Speaker 1: vehicle starts to chug and and and and shake. If 232 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,080 Speaker 1: you pop it in neutral, I bet the RPM comes 233 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 1: back up because now it's not under load. Yeah, so 234 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: you know, just make sure the ignition is as good 235 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,440 Speaker 1: as it should be. You have another question, Yes, sir, 236 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: the the technometer on the dashboard is reading about four fifty, 237 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,280 Speaker 1: but the reading off the scanner is telling me about 238 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: seven thirty three RPMs. Well I would I would say 239 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 1: that the that the technometer on the dashboards probably wrong. 240 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:02,599 Speaker 1: I wouldn't let that bother me. Do you have a 241 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: do you have a timing light with a tachometer built in? Sir? Um, 242 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: Can you get a you know, an old school tact 243 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: well set up? Just put an external meter, Just put 244 00:14:14,040 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: an external meter on it, all right, If you're gonna, 245 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 1: if you're if you're gonna go out and get creative 246 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 1: and buy an advanced timing light. Most of the advanced 247 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 1: timing lights in the day had tachometers built into them. 248 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 1: And you know, listen if you're gonna work on your 249 00:14:30,200 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: own car, it doesn't hurt to have the tools. And 250 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 1: what I would tell you is, if you hook it 251 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: up to your car and it says for fifty or 252 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 1: if it says something totally different nine hundred, go hook 253 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 1: it up to another car. Right, you know, it doesn't hurt. 254 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: Go hook it up. Go hook it up to another car. 255 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: So second question, uh, would it be worth it to 256 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: clean the intake manifold and change the field filter? If 257 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: the fuel filters restrict did that could cause this problem 258 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: as well. All right, Well, the Honda says that you 259 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 1: never Honda Manuel says you never changed that fuel filter. 260 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 1: So so Honda thinks Honda things that we're using magic gasoline. 261 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 1: I thought, right, right, because in the world of Honda, 262 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,520 Speaker 1: so Honda is one of those companies that thinks that, 263 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: you know what, their cars never break and they have 264 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: magic gas because every other vehicle manufacturer says change the 265 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: fuel filter on a regular basis. You come up to 266 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: a car company that says, never what you're so in 267 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: other words, you go to a gas station that says, 268 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: Honda's only is that what you're telling me is that 269 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: what you haven't but you know. I don't know, but 270 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: that was that's gotta be what you have in Kentucky. 271 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: You gotta have Honda only gas stations, so that doesn't 272 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: make any sense. Uh listen, if it's longer than thirty 273 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: thousand miles, since you put a fuel filter in that car, 274 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: change it. It's good maintenance, all right, kiddo, do what 275 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: you gotta do. I gotta move along. All right, sir, 276 00:15:57,160 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 1: you'll be well. Good luck to you. Posted very well, Yes, sir, 277 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: be well. Let's get on over and talk to you all. 278 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: Let's go to Vinny in Florida thirteen thirteen Kiliak and Vinny. 279 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: Why do you need air conditioning in Florida? It's got 280 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: to be like thirty or forty degrees there. We only 281 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,360 Speaker 1: need it when it gets over ninety. Other than that, 282 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 1: nowhere condition is needy. I thought it was like I 283 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: thought it was like thirty or forty degrees. They're cooler 284 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: than the temperature of the sun, that is, but usually 285 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: usually only on January one, it's that cold, right, Yeah, yeah, 286 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,640 Speaker 1: I brother, you got guts living there. Let me tell 287 00:16:30,640 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: you it's hot. So what's on your mind? What's going on? 288 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: All right? So I replaced the had a compressive failure 289 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: in February two. I replaced the compressive expansion valve, the condensed, 290 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: flushed it out, charged it, and it was working pretty good. 291 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: It was blowing that out of the event at about 292 00:16:50,440 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: thirty eight degrees forty degrees and recently UH looks the 293 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,400 Speaker 1: temperature is not going below UH sixty degree at an 294 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: event and and the low side is forty five and 295 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:09,440 Speaker 1: the high side is nine. I didn't see anything on 296 00:17:09,480 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: any parts where the low side was normal and the 297 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,280 Speaker 1: high side was low to diagnosis. So I thought I'd 298 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,680 Speaker 1: give you a call and see what your opinion is 299 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 1: on that. What's what's residual pressure? If you if you 300 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: check it system pressure at you know, vehicle OFF just 301 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: took up a set of gages. Did you happen to 302 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: look at that? Does it equalize out? Um? I did 303 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: not look at that today. No, okay, UM, I'd be 304 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:37,000 Speaker 1: curious what that is? Does it equalize out? Now? This 305 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 1: should be a variable displacement compressor if I'm not mistaken. 306 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: And sometimes the diagnostic methods are a little different than conventional. 307 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: So we we want to look at pressures at idle key, 308 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: you know, engine off. We want to look at pressures 309 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: at idle engine running if you take it down the road, 310 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:02,719 Speaker 1: or if you sit there and increase the idle speed. Uh, 311 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: you know in the bay, I'll use that term. Do 312 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: you happen to know where does high side pressure go up? 313 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: Can it build high side pressure? Um let's started started 314 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: a little bit low. Uh, and it looks like it 315 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: started to build it as it was idle after the 316 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: after the repad. Yeah, in February when it was working, 317 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: the low side the fifty and the high side was 318 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: one fifty, which is a little I'll tell you what. 319 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 1: Vinnie stayed put sit right there, let me pull over. 320 00:18:31,000 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: Take this. Plus, we'll be back to you in a minute. 321 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 1: I'm run any in the car, doctor, don't anybody go anywhere. 322 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 1: I'll be right back. Welcome back. We're on the end 323 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,399 Speaker 1: of the car. Doctor. Let's get back to Vinnie in Florida. 324 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: You're still there, sir, I am here. Let's let's let's 325 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: back up a second. I just want to be sure, 326 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: you know, I thought about it. Depending upon which engine 327 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: is this, this may or may not be a variable 328 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 1: displacement compressor, but I still want to see equal refrigerant 329 00:19:10,840 --> 00:19:13,760 Speaker 1: balanced at idle. You know engine off it should be 330 00:19:13,840 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: even on both sides of the gage is showing me 331 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: there's no obstructions in the system, all right, that being said, 332 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 1: um always for giggles, even though I know there's no 333 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:24,240 Speaker 1: check engine online and we don't think this way. Even 334 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,720 Speaker 1: though we're looking at system pressure. Did you happen to 335 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 1: scan it for codes in the A C module? Uh? 336 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: Not recently? Okay, you might as well, you know what, 337 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,239 Speaker 1: just takes one more thing off the list, and then 338 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: while you're in there you should be able to find 339 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:41,240 Speaker 1: if you're looking at your make model by manufacturer, there 340 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 1: will be a pit for a C command how much 341 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: pulse with they want to give the compressor? In other words, 342 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: how hard are they making the compressor work. If you 343 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: don't have that pit, then it's not a variable displacement 344 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,479 Speaker 1: compressor and it will change our flow of diagnosis. All right. Now, 345 00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 1: while you're in there, look to see do they list 346 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 1: and evaporate rador fin temperature pit? All right, evaporator it's 347 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: event as an evaporator Finn temped or evaporator temp. They 348 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: might just list it like that. If they do and 349 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: you're seeing forty five on low side and it doesn't 350 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 1: match within five degrees on that pit. That's gonna tell 351 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: us something in and of itself, all right. In other words, 352 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: if we see forty five low side, we should see 353 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 1: roughly forty five to fifty degrees at the duct I'm sorry, 354 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: at the evaporator, and then you'll lose ten degrees getting 355 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: to the duct and that makes sixty. That just tells 356 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: us the systems working like it should, that it's doing 357 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: what it's supposed to do. I'm not a big fan 358 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: of chasing symptom. I want to know what's broken and 359 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: what's working, all right, So I just want to see 360 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: that the two matching, they're doing what they're supposed to do. 361 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: Number one, number two, number three. Forget high side pressure 362 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: for a minute. How do we know blend doors are 363 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: working that we don't have a blend or issue. Uh, well, 364 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: it's it's blowing pretty strong out of the event. But 365 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: now that you bring it up, occasionally the uh whatever reason, 366 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, the doesn't blow out of the top 367 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,920 Speaker 1: vents and I have to pull the fuse and reset 368 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: it and then it then it works fine. Happened on 369 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:25,640 Speaker 1: two occasions, but it seems to be uh, blowing out 370 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 1: of the top fence like it normally does. Put a 371 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: put a temperature gauge in the events to get the 372 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 1: temp out of it. But but what I'm and that's fine, 373 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: But what I'm also thinking about or talking about, is 374 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: how do I know the blend or when you said 375 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: it to you? You set the temperature at the blend 376 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,119 Speaker 1: at that at the control head to max cold, right, correct? 377 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: How do you know the blend or moved there? Um? Well, 378 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,919 Speaker 1: I never I never moved the blend door. So I'm 379 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 1: assuming I'm making assumption and it's there. I mean, I 380 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: guess I can move it to another well and then 381 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: move it back. Well, yeah, but I mean when you 382 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: when you move the control and when you set the 383 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,360 Speaker 1: control head. In a car, let's talk a generic automobile. 384 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: And you know we've got a low setting of a 385 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 1: C two maximum heat. Right, let's say the low setting 386 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: like in my suburban, my old four suburban, I set 387 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:18,479 Speaker 1: the temperature to sixty degrees, that's max cold. I've had 388 00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 1: it where it's as I've commanded sixty degrees, and I've 389 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:25,239 Speaker 1: had bad actuators were all commands sixty degrees. But I'm 390 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: only getting I'm all of a sudden I'm getting seventy 391 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 1: two degrees, all right, And I'll go I'll go in 392 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: and i'll pull codes, and I'll check the blend door 393 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: actuators because there's two, there's one per side, and I'll 394 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: find the one on the driver's side isn't moving past 395 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: it's a certain step, and it's blending more heater core 396 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: air or more heat off the heater core than evaporator, 397 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 1: and it's changing output temperature at the duct. Got you. 398 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: So the way to test that would be via the 399 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: scan tool and actuated or well you might do at 400 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: the head. You might see that the head, you might 401 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: see it. That's why I say pull codes. Because the 402 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: computer runs a self test. It will sweep the door 403 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: actuators at some point and it will look to see 404 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,159 Speaker 1: if it's if it's a zero step, zero to a 405 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five steps, and it sweeps it up, 406 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: and it sweeps it down, and it goes zero to two, 407 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: back to ten. It's gonna go, wait a minute, I 408 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 1: didn't get full sweep and it'll set a fault for that. 409 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: So alright, So so it doesn't so it doesn't equalize. 410 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: What does that mean? It sounds like I've got I'm sorry, 411 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, it sounds like I've got a 412 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 1: restriction in the system. Okay, so it doesn't equalize, it 413 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: sounds like but if it equalizes, there's no restriction, right, 414 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: there's no restriction. Then we've got to decide why aren't 415 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: we getting adequate performance? Do we have a bad new compressor? 416 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 1: Can't build you know, can't make a can't can't create 417 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 1: enough suction, and can't create enough of a pressure differential 418 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:59,080 Speaker 1: on highside? Do we have a blend or issue? Do 419 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: we have do we have an electronic problem? So what 420 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: kind of compressor did you use? I'm sure you're gonna 421 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: tell me new GM. Um, I don't know. I think 422 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 1: I think it is a new GM. Okay, all right, 423 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: So I mean that's what I'm kind of I'm kind 424 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: of thinking of the compressor because when I put it in, 425 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: you know, as long as as long as the RPMs, 426 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: we're up and blow at thirty eight to forty degrees. 427 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: But if I was you know, if I'm sitting at 428 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: a lie temperature, it or automatically moved to you know, 429 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: like fifty And that was from the first day after 430 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: the recharge of that way. But as soon as if 431 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: I put it in neutral and I stepped on the 432 00:24:37,560 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: gas and put the r p ms up, it would 433 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: go right back down to forty you know about forty 434 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: degrees of thirty eight degrees. So I'm I'm kind of 435 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: thinking a week compressor. Don't well, it could be a compressor. 436 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 1: Do you have have you looked at the cooling fans. 437 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: There's got to be a cooling fan for the condenser. 438 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: Cooling fan runs high speed when it has to. And 439 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 1: again I'm back to are there any fault codes? Did 440 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: the did the computer command high speed fan on? And 441 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: it didn't see it come on? And it's just not 442 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 1: telling you because there's no warning line on the dashboard 443 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: right the fan the fans on. I don't know that 444 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: it's on high speed all the time. It would, but 445 00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: you know, like I was driving driving down the interstate 446 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: yesterday at seventy and it was blowing. You know, sixty 447 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: sixties not caled enough. It should be sixty is not 448 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,920 Speaker 1: called enough, should be in the forty five range, all right, 449 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: And that would let me put the gages on this 450 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: small so Lea's last thought before I go all right, um, 451 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: this car is now nine years old ten years old. 452 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: I've never seen it, so I'm just gonna throw this 453 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: out there. Make sure all the ducting in the front 454 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: of the radiator, in the front of the bumper, all 455 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: the cowling, everything is where it's supposed to be, and 456 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 1: that it's flowing air across the condenser as as required 457 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: by GM. A lot of the newer vehicles have a 458 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 1: smaller cowl area, that area in front of the grill. 459 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,160 Speaker 1: And you know, I've had where one shield is out 460 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: of place. I've seen cars overheat missing cowling shielding and 461 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,400 Speaker 1: and valance shielding and so forth. So just be sure 462 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: everything is as designed. So do that, do this, you know, 463 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: do the things we talked about, go through it, and um, 464 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:16,479 Speaker 1: you know, if you need more, just call me back 465 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: next week let me know what you find. We can 466 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: kind of take it from there. Vinny, I appreciate the call. 467 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 1: I gotta run eight zero. We'll be back right after this. 468 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 1: Welcome back Ron, the end of the car doctor, five 469 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: zero zero. Let's go over and talk to Lewis and Iowa. 470 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 1: Welcome to the car doctor, sir, How can I help 471 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to you, Ron Louis ducom On two thousand and 472 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:49,040 Speaker 1: eight Nissan rogue. The catalytic converter failed, and I wonder 473 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: if I could change it. I'd since it was bolt 474 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: and bolt on each end, I'd change it myself. But 475 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 1: I've got a few comments or questions on the procedure. 476 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,359 Speaker 1: I've got a haynes man. You know, they said, removed 477 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: the alternator or no, they said, do not remove it, 478 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: remove the manifold. The alternator had to come off before 479 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:11,360 Speaker 1: you took the manifold off. So so you're talking, you're 480 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: talking about the cat in the manifold. That's correct, one piece. 481 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: I wish it was two pieces, but at least it 482 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: was bolted. The bolts and nuts weren't too hard to 483 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: get off, which helped. But getting the tension off the 484 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:29,879 Speaker 1: serpentine belt was a pain. You're supposed to take the 485 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: right front wheel off and take off the fender laner. 486 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: I did not want to do that. There was hardly 487 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 1: any clearance to get on a fourteen millimeter head on 488 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,399 Speaker 1: that tension or pulley. Do you have a special wrench 489 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 1: to take the tension off that belt. There's terribly close 490 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,679 Speaker 1: quarters or room for a wrench, And that's about ice. 491 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: I've got a I've got a bunch of different manufacturers 492 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: make it as a special tool you'll buy. But I've 493 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 1: got something. It's a serrupbelt tool. That's it's a long, 494 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: flat piece of steel with a shore recessed socket. Variable 495 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: sockets fit in it that will go down in between 496 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 1: the you know, and it allows you to pull back 497 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: on the tension or to take the belt off. So 498 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: but you know, that's that's that's not uncommon. That's something 499 00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: we've had for years. You know, you may find one 500 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: at your local lotoparts store. You know, if you have 501 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 1: an O'Reilly Orto Parts by you, you may be able 502 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: to go and you may be able to go and 503 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: rent the tool. Tell them what you're trying to do. 504 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 1: And O'Reilly orto Parts does rent tools, so you don't 505 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 1: have to buy them, right, and you can go and 506 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 1: rent the tool from them if they have it, and 507 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,719 Speaker 1: they very well might. So um sounds. One more thing. 508 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: When I put the manifold back on your special sequence 509 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: on an exhaust manifold, you had to go over it 510 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 1: twice one ft pounds. I did that in the afternoon, 511 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: and I thought it would just I did not finish 512 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: the car, so I re checked the torque the next morning, 513 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 1: it was not thirty one foot pounds. Um, I've got 514 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: be honest with you, Lewis, and it's just me. I've 515 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 1: never talked an exhaust manifold back on anything in my life. 516 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: But maybe it's just feel. Do you oil your Are 517 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:12,240 Speaker 1: you oiling the threads of your bolts? I did not 518 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: put any anti sees on the bolt, not not any 519 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: seas I always put it. I always put a drop 520 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: of threads on the oil. I always put a drop 521 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:23,960 Speaker 1: of oil on the threads of anything i'm tightening. I 522 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: got in that habit I got. I got in that 523 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 1: habit years ago, and I'll put a little bit. If 524 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: it's a rusty exhaust manifold, I'll put a drop of 525 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: oil under the head of the bolt or the washer. Um. 526 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: And then it's just a matter of feel, you know. 527 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:40,840 Speaker 1: Remember when we're twerking something, we're accounting for and counting 528 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: on the bolt to stretch. We're counting on the twist 529 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: ability of that bolt. Think of Plato or Clay right, 530 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna twist it and expected to hold that tension 531 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: under load. Um, it's it's great that your hand tworking it. 532 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: I won't say you're doing it wrong. But a lot 533 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: of times something like that is a feel, you know, 534 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 1: it's it's just a and I guess if you do 535 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: it enough times, maybe that's not what I'm what I'm 536 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: not considering. So um, when you went to second day 537 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: to check it and check the torque, what did you 538 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 1: think it was? It had gone down? What was I 539 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: think it was even less than that. Some of them 540 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: are all right, and and maybe two or three were 541 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 1: a little bit. They weren't They weren't tight. So I 542 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: retort them back to foot pounds and I and put 543 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: the thing back together. The heat shroud. You know, it 544 00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,240 Speaker 1: has to be over the over the man, it's really 545 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: really a pain in that car. But also after I've 546 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: got her back running ahead of a random misfire, did 547 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: you doetitor nap or a nap and mechanics had replaced 548 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: the boots in the head for the spark plug wires 549 00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 1: off the coil and that took care of it, right, Yeah, 550 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: And that's very possible. The plug wires tend to dry 551 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: out and the boots, the boots tend to get brittle. 552 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,959 Speaker 1: Did you use any dielectric grease when you put them back? 553 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: Gone over the spark plugs. Yes I did, he Redden 554 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: Did I use that. I've never done it before. But 555 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: it was a terrible pain getting the plugs out. There's 556 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: seventy thousand miles on the plugs. And but I used 557 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: the anti sees on the plugs. When I put it 558 00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: in there, there bosh plugs and I did think they'd 559 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: be such a pain to get out. The boy they 560 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: were tight, Yeah, they were tight, and listen, there's nothing 561 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: wrong with that. Again. I stopped using the anti cs 562 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: truth be told a couple of years back because I 563 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: believe they've changed the formulation. Um. It used to be 564 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: that anti C has had a little bit more lubricity 565 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: to it. Now it seems like they're putting more glass 566 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: in it. And it's got it's got a sharpness and 567 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,560 Speaker 1: a coarseness to it that I haven't. I haven't used 568 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: it but a few exceptional exceptional uh you know applications. 569 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: You know, a drop of oil on the threads, everything 570 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: comes apart. And I haven't had an issue yet, and 571 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: that's just you know, mechanic to mechanics, that all right, 572 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: but things they will. What do you think of a 573 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: Nissan rogue that Andrews got about two hundred fifty three 574 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: thousand miles at two point five. Brother, I think it's 575 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: just broken in. You've got no reason to complain about it, right, 576 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 1: it's it's it's serving. Yeah, it's coming up. I'm fifteen 577 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,960 Speaker 1: years old. So thank you, Lewis. You'd be well, you 578 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 1: have a good rest of the weekend. Yes, sir, you're 579 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: welcome to take good care. So very nice man. Hey 580 00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: like that. So we're helping everybody today. Um let's pull over, 581 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: take a pause, five five zero zero. We'll be back 582 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 1: right after this. What'm back? Where? Name the car? Doctor? 583 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: Kind of winding it down this, Sarah, Let's do some email. 584 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 1: This one from Frank in Pennsylvania. Long time listen to Ron. 585 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: I've got a nine seventy two big block Corvette four speed. Frank, 586 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: I'll give you fifty bucks for it. Do you like 587 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: be of good Rich, Cooper, corbra A t Radios or 588 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: Uni Royal Tiger Is what's the best choice to fifteen 589 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: seventy R fifteen? Um? I gotta tell you, Frank, Um, 590 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 1: I like all three tires, but just in this application 591 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: on an older car like that, I think there's nothing 592 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,160 Speaker 1: greater than a B F. Good Rich. All Right, there 593 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: was something about b F good Rich radial t a 594 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: s back in the day, and you know still have 595 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 1: a soft spot form when the Monte Carlo finally hits 596 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: the road, which I hope to do so this fall 597 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna look for a so of B OF good 598 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 1: Rich radial ts for that. So my choice are the 599 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 1: good Rich. Um. Not that the other two are bad, 600 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:27,000 Speaker 1: but I like those better. I like the good Rich 601 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: better as a choice. UM. This comes to us from 602 00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: research Kathy. She just found this great article. UM. Down 603 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 1: in Texas, they're talking about let's see states hitting hybrid 604 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,479 Speaker 1: and electric car owns with new taxes. Thirty states are 605 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 1: hitting hybrid cardinals with additional taxes to pay for highway maintenance, 606 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: and a dozen more have proposals in their legislation. This 607 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,800 Speaker 1: out of Texas, USA, from a John Matta res author. 608 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: State governments everywhere starting the tax owners of hybrid and 609 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: electric cars because they claim their drivers don't pay enough 610 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,920 Speaker 1: in gas leane tax. Well, if they're driving an electric vehicle, Um, well, 611 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: I guess the hybrids would be paying gas lean tax 612 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: to some degree. But if they're driving an electric vehicle, 613 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: they're not gonna be paying any road maintenance because they're 614 00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: not paying any gas U tax. So yeah, that's something 615 00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: to look forward to. I guess they're starting to do that. 616 00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: This is a little bit older. It's about a month ago. 617 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,120 Speaker 1: We've just got around to it now. My apologies is 618 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: out of the Wall Street Journal. Summers around the corner 619 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: and they're talking about let's see, we suggest you prepared 620 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,640 Speaker 1: by buying an emergency generator if you can find one 621 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: in stock. Last week, the North American Electric Reliability Corporation 622 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: or NERK, I don't know we had one of those 623 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: a NERK. Gee, what do you work? I work at NERK. 624 00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,799 Speaker 1: Is that like chaos and well control gets smart more 625 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: and the two thirds of the U S could experience 626 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: blackouts this summer. Welcome to the green energy transition. We've 627 00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: been wanting for years that climate policies would make the 628 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 1: grid more vulnerable to vacillations and supply and demand than 629 00:34:44,360 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: here we are. Some of the mainstream press are belatedly 630 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 1: catching on that blackouts are coming, but they still don't 631 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: grasp the real problem. The force transition to green energy 632 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: is distorting energy markets and destabilizing the grid. Yeah, I 633 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,520 Speaker 1: gotta say that. The it seems like we're headed towards that. Right, 634 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,120 Speaker 1: that's becoming more and more of an issue. Uh as 635 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 1: as time marches on. Right, we're UM, we've got to 636 00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: watch the electric vehicle translation transformation and be aware that 637 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen overnight, and that UM. A lot 638 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: of the issues we talked about recently in the last 639 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,360 Speaker 1: year or two are starting to come to fruition in 640 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: terms of UH, well the grid infrastructure UM, support for 641 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: the electric vehicle UM. But in any event, hey, listen, 642 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,880 Speaker 1: don't forget. If you want to be part of the 643 00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 1: Car Doctor Vacation Show, help Ron take a couple of 644 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: weeks off, call in during the week or qual eight 645 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: five five five zero zero and the Toma ketch up 646 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: on the air until the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, 647 00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 1: they're priceless. Let see you