WEBVTT - Episode 03: Exam Conditions 0:00:01.360 --> 0:00:04.680 High Strange is released every Friday and brought to you 0:00:04.840 --> 0:00:09.560 absolutely free, but for ad free listening, exclusive bonuses, and 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:14.080 early access to episodes, subscribe to tenderfoot Plus at tenderfootplus 0:00:14.120 --> 0:00:23.280 dot com or on Apple Podcasts. The views and opinions 0:00:23.680 --> 0:00:27.320 expressed in this podcast are solely those of the podcast 0:00:27.400 --> 0:00:31.280 author or individuals participating in the podcast, and do not 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:36.720 represent those of iHeartRadio, tenderfoot TV, or their employees. This 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:40.760 podcast also contains subject matter which may not be suitable 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:41.559 for everyone. 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:43.960 Listener discretion is advised. 0:00:51.920 --> 0:00:56.880 Welcome to High Strange. 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:03.240 At the time I was coming up to eleven, the 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:05.800 school was very much like a small family. It was 0:01:05.840 --> 0:01:09.080 only one hundred and twenty five people's We were all close. 0:01:10.040 --> 0:01:13.560 It was a nice atmosphere to grow up in. Lunchtime 0:01:13.600 --> 0:01:16.440 came around, I thought I'd rather stay in and read 0:01:16.440 --> 0:01:19.920 a booklin go out in that way there, but some 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:24.200 of the kids went out. I was a very voracious 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:28.560 reader at that time. The end of lunchtime, they came in. 0:01:29.800 --> 0:01:32.240 Groups of them were saying that they'd seen something out 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:36.200 in the playground. A number of them were saying that 0:01:36.240 --> 0:01:40.360 they'd seen an object. They were describing it as a 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:46.759 flying saucer. It didn't seem like they were having a joke. 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:52.120 It really didn't. They actually sounded like they meant it. 0:01:54.760 --> 0:01:59.880 But I am a total skeptic. I have no belief. 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:05.080 I don't believe in UFOs as simple as that. The 0:02:05.160 --> 0:02:08.440 teacher at the time was the headmaster, ralphel Ellen. He 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:13.360 dismissed it as a joke. The headmaster was dismissing it 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:16.600 as some wind up that was going on, some joke 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:20.800 that they were trying to play. We finally broke up 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:25.560 at the end of school. I'm still not believing it. 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:30.080 There's no way the flying Source is going to be 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:36.200 happening around Pembrokeshire. Twinal Bell went at the end of school. 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:40.720 I went up to the top of the school to 0:02:40.760 --> 0:02:45.520 see if I could actually see anything. Investigated a bit closer, 0:02:48.760 --> 0:02:52.760 I stepped over the primitive fence and as I got 0:02:52.760 --> 0:02:57.760 one foot over, it literally rose up from behind trees 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:06.000 FROs this thing. It was about forty five feet long, silver. 0:03:07.320 --> 0:03:12.440 It was just rising from behind the trees vertically, no 0:03:12.520 --> 0:03:16.480 sense of propulsion at all. What I'm seeing in front 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:20.120 of me is real. I've got something in front of 0:03:20.120 --> 0:03:26.240 me that shouldn't exist. But does Yeah, I had no 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:29.120 problem with accepting that somewhere right in the cosmost they 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:32.760 might be other life. I didn't think it was a visiting. 0:03:36.680 --> 0:03:39.840 I was looking at this thing. It was going to 0:03:39.840 --> 0:03:42.440 stand here and watch it for as long as I could. 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:49.480 And that's where the weirdness sort of starts. There was 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:55.080 a thought in my brain, I should leave. What do 0:03:55.120 --> 0:04:00.560 you mean, a thought something that wasn't mine. There was 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:04.960 a suggestion there that I should leave the area. So 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:07.440 it wasn't like instinctual response no, no, no, no no. I 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:11.320 had absolutely no fear at all. The moment that I 0:04:11.400 --> 0:04:14.720 appreciated what I had in front of me, had that 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:19.360 thought I should leave. It wasn't to run away out 0:04:19.360 --> 0:04:22.120 of fear. It was more like a caution, please leave 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:26.640 the area. I've been told to get away. I did run. 0:04:28.040 --> 0:04:31.679 Dave says the thought appeared in his mind. It wasn't fear, 0:04:32.160 --> 0:04:35.400 it wasn't instinct. It was like a third party suggestion 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:40.960 not to scream or panic, just leave the area. 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:44.320 Something that didn't come to me until a few years later. 0:04:45.400 --> 0:04:47.800 I can remember getting in the taxi and the journey home. 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:53.159 The journey home was done in complete silence. All of us, 0:04:54.279 --> 0:04:58.360 including the taxi driver, didn't say a word. 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:00.880 Wouldn't you guys be talking about this crazy thing you 0:05:00.920 --> 0:05:01.240 just saw. 0:05:01.680 --> 0:05:03.960 That's the weird thing. I was in a car with 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:08.119 another two witnesses. A group of us had just seen 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:15.320 a flying saucer a UFO. We said nothing at all. Boy, 0:05:15.640 --> 0:05:16.200 I don't know. 0:05:17.560 --> 0:05:21.240 I'm not asking you to decide what that means. I'm 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:24.280 asking you to notice how specific it is. 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:29.160 The taxi dropped me off. About ten minutes later. I 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.120 got out of the taxi, and the moment I saw 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:36.040 my mother, it was like, Mom just saw a UFO. 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.679 It was like suddenly I'd switched back on again. 0:05:40.600 --> 0:05:41.679 What did you tell your mom? 0:05:41.960 --> 0:05:44.560 I just said, I've just seen a flying saucet. 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:50.400 Fear is chaotic, This isn't It's procedural, A simple thought. 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:52.880 Leave the area, and then Dave runs. 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:56.880 I mean, my mother knows me. There's no disbelief. The 0:05:56.920 --> 0:06:00.760 moment I said it, she instantly saw that I was 0:06:00.800 --> 0:06:05.359 being truthful. We went back down to the school that 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:09.320 night to have a look. Obviously by them who got 0:06:09.360 --> 0:06:16.080 dark it was February, saw nothing at all. Following day, 0:06:16.600 --> 0:06:19.640 we went back with a local reporter called Hugh Turnbull, 0:06:19.680 --> 0:06:24.120 who worked for the Western Telegraph. We went back down 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:28.279 the school again, investigated the area in which I'd seen 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:34.560 the object. What'd you say? There was a broken branch 0:06:36.080 --> 0:06:42.120 telephone pole had been dislodged, which had just been recently repaired. 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.239 The cross piece on the actual pole had been knocked 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:50.000 at about forty five degrees. They couldn't really put it 0:06:50.040 --> 0:06:55.640 down to anything other than something knocking into it. There 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:59.360 was no reasonable explanation for anything that we'd seen. 0:07:01.240 --> 0:07:04.800 The ride home, you have three kids who allegedly just 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:10.760 saw a flying saucer. No adrenaline, no replay, no disbelief, 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:18.520 just silence. The second Dave got home, everything switches back on. 0:07:19.320 --> 0:07:22.640 He tells his mother and she immediately believes him. She 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:25.440 can tell by his face. That's the first adult truth 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:26.840 test in the story. 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:33.080 By Monday morning, the national press were already phone in 0:07:33.120 --> 0:07:37.520 the school. Monday morning, we got into school. Instantly, the 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.840 headmaster pulled all of the ones who had claimed to 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:45.200 have seen the UFO to one side and isolated us. 0:07:46.520 --> 0:07:49.480 It's about fourteen of us. He then put us in 0:07:49.560 --> 0:07:54.920 examined conditions, sitting apart from each other, with him observing. 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.520 Gave us all a piece of paper. I said, I 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:02.080 want you to describe and draw what you saw. 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.760 This is when the head master does something really smart. 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:13.200 Fourteen kids separated, no collaboration, no discussion, exam conditions, draw 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:13.840 what you saw. 0:08:15.640 --> 0:08:19.119 We all drew the UFO that we'd seen, a brief 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:23.640 description of it. Then once we'd finished, the headmaster went round, 0:08:23.840 --> 0:08:26.280 gathered up the pieces of papers, started looking at the 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:32.439 pieces of paper and went white. All of those illustrations 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:45.559 depicted the same object. His kids had seen something. It 0:08:45.600 --> 0:08:47.840 totally blew his mind and I didn't know what to think. 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:54.559 They all depicted a silver scar shaped object, a dome 0:08:54.720 --> 0:08:58.360 that covered the middle third of the craft with a 0:08:58.400 --> 0:09:02.360 red light on top. We all drew the same object, 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:10.640 no collaboration whatsoever, and no social media, no Internet, nothing. 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:12.959 So where does that tell you? 0:09:14.040 --> 0:09:16.640 It very much confirms that we all saw the same thing. 0:09:19.559 --> 0:09:22.520 Something strange came out of the skies and landed in 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:27.840 the Welsh village of broad Haven, was spotted three times 0:09:27.880 --> 0:09:30.640 by children from the local school. I've just been on 0:09:30.640 --> 0:09:31.920 the phone to their headmaster. 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:36.800 I know that the sixteen children saw it. 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:38.560 And did they all see the same thing? 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:41.200 Do you think I got them to draw and to 0:09:41.240 --> 0:09:45.120 write what they saw with similarity between all of the scripts. 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:51.160 Fors and do you believe it? I believe they saw 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:54.280 something which is not common in the environment. 0:09:56.080 --> 0:10:00.400 Media all around the world, TV crews arriving from every where. 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:04.560 The children say the object had a large dome, It 0:10:04.679 --> 0:10:07.520 was cigar shaped and was silver in color. 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:14.760 It sort of dawned on us at that time that 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:22.840 this was something a little bit more serious. Senior offices 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:27.439 from raf Raud and the US Naval Facility wanted to 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:31.319 talk to us and find out what we'd seen. They 0:10:31.400 --> 0:10:35.040 looked at the illustrations we'd done, chatted with us as 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:40.080 a group. They basically said, we have no idea what 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:44.319 you've seen. What we can categorically state it has nothing 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:48.040 to do with us, but we honestly believe you've seen something. 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:54.640 The phones were being left off the hook at the school. 0:10:55.520 --> 0:10:59.040 The headmaster was completely losing his will to live. We 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:01.920 weren't trying to sense thatationalia. We were just saying what 0:11:02.040 --> 0:11:08.720 had happened. If you can find the old clip. I 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:10.760 think the old clips are still on YouTube or. 0:11:15.679 --> 0:11:17.920 My friend Palatier was trying to find a way over 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:20.040 the stream and I was looking at the bushes up 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:21.000 the top of the trees. 0:11:25.120 --> 0:11:30.360 I remember that bloody top and that acre that was 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:31.280 in the school playground. 0:11:38.840 --> 0:11:41.880 The spaceship. It looks as a cigar shaped with a 0:11:42.000 --> 0:11:42.680 dome on it. 0:11:44.280 --> 0:11:47.359 It had a yellowy orange to red. 0:11:47.200 --> 0:11:47.960 Light on the top. 0:11:47.960 --> 0:11:55.359 Clip in board Haven in Wales, some extremely interesting pictures 0:11:55.760 --> 0:11:57.480 in some of the things that told me they couldn't 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:58.880 have known about impossible. 0:12:02.760 --> 0:12:05.000 My friend Philippio was trying to find a way over 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.120 the steam and I was looking at the bushes up 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:11.040 the top of the trees, and then suddenly the silver 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:14.400 cigar shaped objects seemed to pop up from behind the bushes, 0:12:15.280 --> 0:12:17.280 trying to take off. Then it disappeared again. 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:22.640 Were you frightened at the time, yes, Now we got 0:12:22.640 --> 0:12:24.880 some younger people in the studio who claimed to have 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:26.800 had encounters of their very own. 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:28.320 We just rung off. 0:12:28.440 --> 0:12:29.320 We were so scared. 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:45.680 Wasn't just the broad Haven Coast. Other incidents in the 0:12:45.720 --> 0:12:46.959 area started happening. 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:52.840 They call it the broad Haven Triangle, an area here 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:57.720 in Pembrokeshire where sensible, down to earth people I constantly saying, 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:02.480 strange objects in the sky, sterious lights. It's an area 0:13:02.520 --> 0:13:05.480 where an entire classroom of school children saw from their 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:07.120 playground a UFO. 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:11.160 Are you all honestly going to say that you think 0:13:11.160 --> 0:13:13.840 that the things you saw were short of saying most 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:14.400 of this world? 0:13:18.760 --> 0:13:23.439 Do you think those were related? Yeah? Basically the same objects. 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:29.440 Silver sco shaped objects sighted off the Gower Swansea coast, 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:31.239 another one in Larn. 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:36.720 Yet another flying software to add to the lengthening list 0:13:36.760 --> 0:13:40.360 of tame sightings over Pembrokeshire Compryside. 0:13:40.360 --> 0:13:43.160 From the south of Wales right round to the southwest 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:44.800 the Wels Triangle. 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.560 Is it all really a case of mass hysteria or 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:52.480 is there some reality in the unreal The people who 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:55.439 live around Broadhaven will tell you that what they've experienced 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:56.199 has reeled up. 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:08.760 There was another case, the Ripperston Farming case. Things were 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:13.200 happening there that were almost like politiceist activity. 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:18.280 This story doesn't stay contained, it only starts spreading. 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:21.440 I could see this here the glight. 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:25.160 This find so fair. 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:31.480 I knew the people involved. I had no reason to 0:14:31.520 --> 0:14:32.720 doubt what they were saying. 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:40.640 After the Broadhaven school incident, reports were coming in from 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:46.800 all across the region, different objects in the sky, the 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:53.200 same shapes and colors. There were other tales in that 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:55.320 region that play out like a nightmare. 0:14:58.040 --> 0:15:00.960 When you're an ordinary farming family and you're convinced you've 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:04.320 seen spaceships and creatures from another planet, how do you 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:07.520 persuade friends, neighbors, and the world in general that you've 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:11.320 not taken leave of your senses. That's the constant problem 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:13.520 with Face Billy and Pauline and Coombs. 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:15.920 When it happened to me the first term, I thought, 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:18.200 you know, I'm imagining things. 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:23.360 Over the years, I've sort of tried not to dwell 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:26.680 on certain parts of the story. 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:30.080 What kind of details. 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:39.440 Occupants this silver suited figure was wandering around Pembrokeshire. 0:15:44.400 --> 0:15:49.080 Local residents claim to have seen an enormous, metallic like man, 0:15:50.400 --> 0:15:54.760 jumping fences, standing in the window, other strange lights in 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:58.560 the sky, and encounters that feel way more personal a. 0:15:58.640 --> 0:15:59.680 Silver suited man. 0:16:00.960 --> 0:16:02.920 It was the most terrifying experience of it. 0:16:03.000 --> 0:16:08.440 Always something was happening, but what. 0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:14.920 Their arms were exceptionally long, their legs were exceptionally long, 0:16:15.000 --> 0:16:18.040 and they definitely didn't have face, and they were faceless people, 0:16:18.360 --> 0:16:22.160 no eyes, no mouth. This thing throughout the hage, it 0:16:22.640 --> 0:16:23.640 jumped over this gate. 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:27.000 There's something droll about it. No mind that jumped. 0:16:26.800 --> 0:16:27.360 Back gate. 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:43.800 Ripperston form. This isn't a side quest, this is escalation. 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:48.680 The phenomenon leaves the schoolyard and enters private homes. 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.520 Police were called out the night of the incident at 0:16:52.520 --> 0:16:55.440 the Combses Farm. 0:16:55.560 --> 0:16:59.440 It's probably of all the incidents in my twenty sixts service, 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:03.560 that's the most friends of family I had helped us. 0:17:05.400 --> 0:17:07.200 Do you see arguments? 0:17:08.440 --> 0:17:15.719 No, A lot has to be who your witnesses, the 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:20.640 age of the witness, perhaps, the social status of the witness, certainly, 0:17:20.720 --> 0:17:25.920 the educational background, the integrity. 0:17:26.080 --> 0:17:28.240 And then the contamination arrives. 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:36.040 The mold asked the local MP what's happening down in Pembrokeshire. 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:40.280 By the time the local MP had been asked that 0:17:41.920 --> 0:17:47.960 a hoax had been perpetrated, the guy walking around Pembrokeshire 0:17:48.040 --> 0:17:54.480 dressed in a firefighter's suit, this silver suited figure that 0:17:54.560 --> 0:17:59.359 was wandering around Pembrokeshire. Everybody knew the incidents that he 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:03.280 was responded sable for. You know, did they sort of 0:18:03.280 --> 0:18:08.800 conflate these two things? Yes. When the MP was asked 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:12.280 what's going on in Pembirakeship regarding the UFO's fighting sources. 0:18:12.520 --> 0:18:16.639 He got told about this person walking around Pembikship in 0:18:16.680 --> 0:18:21.040 a silver suit pretending to be an alien, and everything 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:30.000 was closed down after that. That was the level of 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:31.960 the inquiry. 0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:34.520 Why do you think that happened? 0:18:34.880 --> 0:18:44.199 The hoax thing? Because Pembrokeshire is full of idiots. We 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:48.480 arrived in school one morning to find the headmaster going 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:54.399 absolutely nuts. There was what looked like a bomb in 0:18:54.600 --> 0:18:59.960 the front playground of the school. We identified it as 0:19:00.040 --> 0:19:04.000 the long range fuel tank of for Bomber. It was 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:11.840 the fuel tankle for Bomber, this rocket shaped projectile planted 0:19:12.000 --> 0:19:17.520 in the playground as a joke. My headmaster had got 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:20.680 in touch with the media, said about it. They came 0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:24.320 down and photographed it. Obviously, this is the UFO that 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:24.800 you saw. 0:19:27.440 --> 0:19:28.720 Let's zoom out for a second. 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:31.119 Do you have all these kids who claim to have 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:35.680 seen the same UFO in their schoolyard, then subsequent sightings 0:19:35.680 --> 0:19:39.240 of a similar object all around the region for months. 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:42.080 Then it gets weirder and darker. 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:47.800 People claim to see this large metallic man stalking them. 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:52.040 Then there's reports of an actual man dressed up in 0:19:52.080 --> 0:19:52.879 a silver suit. 0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:58.080 Yeah, there were hoaxes at the time. I know of 0:19:58.160 --> 0:20:03.440 one personally. He gave his story for the price of 0:20:03.480 --> 0:20:07.040 a half answer tobacco, with no truth in it whatsoever. 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:11.960 We met one day and he actually thought I was 0:20:12.040 --> 0:20:15.679 lying and confirmed it to me that he was lying, 0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:18.560 and said, what about you, now, mate, who is this? 0:20:19.680 --> 0:20:19.920 Oh? 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:23.520 Now that I don't want to confirm. If you get 0:20:23.520 --> 0:20:27.520 in contact with any of the kids that saw this object, 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:33.040 they all except for two, maintain that they saw that object. 0:20:43.320 --> 0:20:47.320 Now the two that's plained they didn't and that they 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:51.199 may did our Oh god, how can I've got this? 0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:55.320 When something's happening like that, you always get a couple 0:20:55.359 --> 0:20:58.480 of kids who will jump on a bandwagon. The majority 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:01.000 of us kids will tell you flat out straight, but 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:06.399 we saw what we saw. However, throughout all this time, 0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:11.440 I've known that these particularly ones were possibly not being 0:21:11.480 --> 0:21:12.360 completely honest. 0:21:13.880 --> 0:21:18.640 This is how real events get buried, not by disproving them, 0:21:18.840 --> 0:21:23.919 by surrounding them with stupidity until nobody wants to touch them. 0:21:24.080 --> 0:21:27.119 Poses don't erase the signal, They just drown it. 0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:32.760 Over the years, I've sort of protected those two because 0:21:33.040 --> 0:21:36.000 I don't want two people who just joined in at 0:21:36.000 --> 0:21:39.480 the time because something that was happening who now say, oh, no, 0:21:39.560 --> 0:21:42.639 we didn't see anything at all. I don't want those 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:46.520 two having a negative impact on what the rest of 0:21:46.600 --> 0:21:52.800 us really did see. It's almost slipped into folklore. 0:22:04.359 --> 0:22:10.679 Just press the green says there, she knows they're here, 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:12.360 by the way, because I said to earlier. 0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:23.040 On Oh yeah, I don't swear as you've been recorded. 0:22:23.640 --> 0:22:29.840 Um, oh dear, it's a shame, ma'am. 0:22:30.359 --> 0:22:32.679 Have you got have you got too minutes? Do you 0:22:32.800 --> 0:22:35.400 remember the day I came home from school after seeing 0:22:35.440 --> 0:22:35.919 the UFO? 0:22:36.680 --> 0:22:39.439 Oh yeah, definitely. 0:22:40.400 --> 0:22:43.920 When he came home, what did he say? 0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:48.440 He said he had seen a UFO. I thought, oh, 0:22:48.520 --> 0:22:52.600 you're joking you no boy. Anyway, I could tell by 0:22:52.640 --> 0:22:55.560 his face that he was telling me the truth, because 0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:57.960 I could always tell if he was telling me a 0:22:58.040 --> 0:23:01.960 football or not. But I knew this was genuine. I 0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:07.120 knew it's something at that end. Yes, I believed them. 0:23:06.119 --> 0:23:08.760 All these years later. What do you think happened that day? 0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:10.840 What do you think these kids experienced. 0:23:11.920 --> 0:23:16.240 After all these years? I strongly believe that they saw 0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:22.320 something in the UFO which can't be explained, because I mean, 0:23:23.000 --> 0:23:27.160 if they had lied, somebody would have spilled the beans. 0:23:27.200 --> 0:23:30.360 By now, and this has never ever happened. They still 0:23:30.760 --> 0:23:34.320 they still tell you exactly what happened, the same thing now, 0:23:34.359 --> 0:23:35.480 all these years later. 0:23:37.640 --> 0:23:38.360 Was he a good kid? 0:23:40.960 --> 0:23:41.120 Uh? 0:23:42.160 --> 0:23:45.280 Yeah, that's right, Yeah, I think right. 0:23:45.240 --> 0:23:46.480 Yes, you were on time. 0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:51.520 Yeah, what do you think it was after all these years? 0:23:52.680 --> 0:23:57.040 Well? I keep an open mind, but I believe that 0:23:57.200 --> 0:24:00.840 there is something of the I don't know. It's my 0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:06.000 feeling that there is something. I haven't seen anything myself, 0:24:06.280 --> 0:24:08.880 but yeah, I do believe there's something there. 0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:12.320 Okay, mam, talk to you. So in anyway, ma'am, all. 0:24:12.280 --> 0:24:14.280 Right, golam giving paid. 0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:30.479 Yeah, by the words. In the early days, I had 0:24:30.560 --> 0:24:34.879 probably thought that by now we'd have had confirmation with 0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:39.080 being visited. The one thing that we have had in 0:24:39.200 --> 0:24:42.760 confirmation of in recent years is that these damn things exist, 0:24:47.400 --> 0:24:49.360 whether we know what they are, or where they're coming 0:24:49.359 --> 0:24:55.119 from or whatever. I confirming that these things exist major 0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:58.200 piece of vindication for me. Whilst I can't go out 0:24:58.240 --> 0:25:00.640 and say, okay, the alien's visiting, I can go out 0:25:00.640 --> 0:25:04.800 and tell you the people, look, US government has confirmed 0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:08.080 these dumb things exist. Now, please will you stop saying 0:25:08.119 --> 0:25:15.560 they don't exist? I mean ghosts, the believing ghosts, you don't. 0:25:17.040 --> 0:25:21.719 You can't prove that ghosts exist. We improved that UFOs exist. 0:25:23.200 --> 0:25:27.280 All these years later, you've had almost fifty years to 0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:29.960 think about this. What do you think it was that 0:25:30.040 --> 0:25:42.680 you saw that day? 0:25:43.520 --> 0:25:51.400 I think I've probably entertained all hypotheses extraterrestrial, that it's 0:25:51.560 --> 0:25:58.600 one of ours, extra dimensional, even the possibility that these 0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:02.080 things are not going from anywhere else, that they're a 0:26:02.119 --> 0:26:05.320 lot more local than we think possibly coming from here. 0:26:05.920 --> 0:26:09.400 And by here, I do not mean human intelligences here, 0:26:09.440 --> 0:26:14.520 I mean another intelligence here. I mean I supposed to 0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:18.240 cop out is to say aliens. A lot of it 0:26:18.280 --> 0:26:22.879 makes no sense an intergalactic visitor would be coming here 0:26:23.240 --> 0:26:29.000 to look at primary school for kids, and more Inklin 0:26:29.400 --> 0:26:31.480 that a lot of it could possibly be more in 0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:36.600 our neighborhood dimensionally, or another inhabitant of this planet that 0:26:36.640 --> 0:26:42.960 we just pretty much I'm sure about. If there was 0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:46.960 a whole logic, in the whole phenomena, it'd be a 0:26:47.000 --> 0:26:50.000 lot easier to pin down where you think this is 0:26:50.040 --> 0:26:58.119 coming from. I've been led down certain paths where I'm thinking, yeah, 0:26:58.160 --> 0:27:01.879 it's definitely aliens, it's it, yeah, yeah, And then all 0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:07.760 of a sudden there's Oh no, it's not. It's not aliens. 0:27:08.960 --> 0:27:12.640 Some of these objects seem to be showing the ability 0:27:12.680 --> 0:27:18.000 to dimensionally changed in some ways, disappearing in a puffet logic. 0:27:18.960 --> 0:27:21.359 They don't seem to operate on the same physical plane 0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:26.960 as conventionally air craft. Unfortunately, my knowledge of quantum mechanics 0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:29.360 isn't good to have to actually sort of get down 0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:32.080 on this. But I mean, don't think I haven't tried. 0:27:33.119 --> 0:27:35.800 Perhaps there is a desire in me that I would 0:27:35.880 --> 0:27:39.560 like it to be aliens or an interdimensional species or 0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:49.080 something like that. Why because it confirms that there's a 0:27:49.080 --> 0:27:58.960 greater universe out there. However, if suddenly declassified documents were 0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:02.240 made available from the day or something that says, okay, 0:28:02.440 --> 0:28:05.679 sorry it was one of that ways, I would be 0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:06.359 happy with that. 0:28:07.920 --> 0:28:11.440 But it's been fifty years, yeah, and. 0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:16.440 Nothing, absolutely nothing. 0:28:41.600 --> 0:28:44.440 We're moving into a world where fewer things will stop 0:28:44.480 --> 0:28:49.480 and ask us what do you want. Most systems are 0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:53.520 just going to guess, optimize and decide what makes sense 0:28:53.560 --> 0:28:58.360 based on data and probability. And the annoying thing is, 0:28:58.600 --> 0:29:00.760 most of the time they'll be right enough that it 0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:04.160 feels stupid to argue that's the shift that's easy for 0:29:04.200 --> 0:29:05.040 all of us to miss. 0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:08.800 The future doesn't take. 0:29:08.640 --> 0:29:11.760 Your choices away, It just makes it easier to stop 0:29:11.800 --> 0:29:12.560 making them. 0:29:12.880 --> 0:29:15.760 You don't lose control in one big moment. 0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:22.040 You lose it in small handoffs, one click, one default, 0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:25.680 one sure. That's fine, until suddenly you look up and 0:29:25.760 --> 0:29:28.120 realize a lot of your life is running on autopilot. 0:29:29.480 --> 0:29:33.360 The skill that matters now isn't resisting technology or just 0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:37.360 opting out of the world. It's noticing when you're drifting, 0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:41.400 pausing long enough to ask a simple question, did I 0:29:41.480 --> 0:29:44.080 actually choose this? Or am I just going along with 0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:49.200 it because it's easier. That question shows up everywhere what 0:29:49.280 --> 0:29:54.400 you tolerate but you let slide because you're tired or busy. 0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:57.560 We don't need to fight the future, We just need 0:29:57.600 --> 0:30:02.360 to stay awake inside it, because once you stop choosing, 0:30:03.360 --> 0:30:13.960 something else always chooses for you. As strange as broad 0:30:14.000 --> 0:30:20.160 Haven is, it still sits in the realm of witness experience, sight, sound, memory, 0:30:20.360 --> 0:30:25.120 and human perception. Humans sometimes aren't the most reliable witnesses. 0:30:25.400 --> 0:30:28.520