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This 8 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: podcast also contains subject matter which may not be suitable 9 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: for everyone. 10 00:00:42,000 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 2: Listener discretion is advised. 11 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: Welcome to High Strange. 12 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 3: At the time I was coming up to eleven, the 13 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,800 Speaker 3: school was very much like a small family. It was 14 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 3: only one hundred and twenty five people's We were all close. 15 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 3: It was a nice atmosphere to grow up in. Lunchtime 16 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 3: came around, I thought I'd rather stay in and read 17 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 3: a booklin go out in that way there, but some 18 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 3: of the kids went out. I was a very voracious 19 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: reader at that time. The end of lunchtime, they came in. 20 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 3: Groups of them were saying that they'd seen something out 21 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 3: in the playground. A number of them were saying that 22 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 3: they'd seen an object. They were describing it as a 23 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 3: flying saucer. It didn't seem like they were having a joke. 24 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 3: It really didn't. They actually sounded like they meant it. 25 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 3: But I am a total skeptic. I have no belief. 26 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 3: I don't believe in UFOs as simple as that. The 27 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 3: teacher at the time was the headmaster, ralphel Ellen. He 28 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 3: dismissed it as a joke. The headmaster was dismissing it 29 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 3: as some wind up that was going on, some joke 30 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 3: that they were trying to play. We finally broke up 31 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 3: at the end of school. I'm still not believing it. 32 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 3: There's no way the flying Source is going to be 33 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 3: happening around Pembrokeshire. Twinal Bell went at the end of school. 34 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 3: I went up to the top of the school to 35 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 3: see if I could actually see anything. Investigated a bit closer, 36 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 3: I stepped over the primitive fence and as I got 37 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 3: one foot over, it literally rose up from behind trees 38 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 3: FROs this thing. It was about forty five feet long, silver. 39 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 3: It was just rising from behind the trees vertically, no 40 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: sense of propulsion at all. What I'm seeing in front 41 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 3: of me is real. I've got something in front of 42 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 3: me that shouldn't exist. But does Yeah, I had no 43 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 3: problem with accepting that somewhere right in the cosmost they 44 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 3: might be other life. I didn't think it was a visiting. 45 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 3: I was looking at this thing. It was going to 46 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,440 Speaker 3: stand here and watch it for as long as I could. 47 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 3: And that's where the weirdness sort of starts. There was 48 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:55,080 Speaker 3: a thought in my brain, I should leave. What do 49 00:03:55,120 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 3: you mean, a thought something that wasn't mine. There was 50 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 3: a suggestion there that I should leave the area. So 51 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 3: it wasn't like instinctual response no, no, no, no no. I 52 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 3: had absolutely no fear at all. The moment that I 53 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 3: appreciated what I had in front of me, had that 54 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 3: thought I should leave. It wasn't to run away out 55 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 3: of fear. It was more like a caution, please leave 56 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 3: the area. I've been told to get away. I did run. 57 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,679 Speaker 1: Dave says the thought appeared in his mind. It wasn't fear, 58 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: it wasn't instinct. It was like a third party suggestion 59 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: not to scream or panic, just leave the area. 60 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 3: Something that didn't come to me until a few years later. 61 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 3: I can remember getting in the taxi and the journey home. 62 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 3: The journey home was done in complete silence. All of us, 63 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 3: including the taxi driver, didn't say a word. 64 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: Wouldn't you guys be talking about this crazy thing you 65 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: just saw. 66 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 3: That's the weird thing. I was in a car with 67 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,119 Speaker 3: another two witnesses. A group of us had just seen 68 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: a flying saucer a UFO. We said nothing at all. Boy, 69 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 3: I don't know. 70 00:05:17,560 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: I'm not asking you to decide what that means. I'm 71 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: asking you to notice how specific it is. 72 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 3: The taxi dropped me off. About ten minutes later. I 73 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 3: got out of the taxi, and the moment I saw 74 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:36,040 Speaker 3: my mother, it was like, Mom just saw a UFO. 75 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,679 Speaker 3: It was like suddenly I'd switched back on again. 76 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:41,679 Speaker 2: What did you tell your mom? 77 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,560 Speaker 3: I just said, I've just seen a flying saucet. 78 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: Fear is chaotic, This isn't It's procedural, A simple thought. 79 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: Leave the area, and then Dave runs. 80 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 3: I mean, my mother knows me. There's no disbelief. The 81 00:05:56,920 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: moment I said it, she instantly saw that I was 82 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:05,359 Speaker 3: being truthful. We went back down to the school that 83 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 3: night to have a look. Obviously by them who got 84 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 3: dark it was February, saw nothing at all. Following day, 85 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: we went back with a local reporter called Hugh Turnbull, 86 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 3: who worked for the Western Telegraph. We went back down 87 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:28,279 Speaker 3: the school again, investigated the area in which I'd seen 88 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 3: the object. What'd you say? There was a broken branch 89 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 3: telephone pole had been dislodged, which had just been recently repaired. 90 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:46,239 Speaker 3: The cross piece on the actual pole had been knocked 91 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: at about forty five degrees. They couldn't really put it 92 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: down to anything other than something knocking into it. There 93 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 3: was no reasonable explanation for anything that we'd seen. 94 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: The ride home, you have three kids who allegedly just 95 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 1: saw a flying saucer. No adrenaline, no replay, no disbelief, 96 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: just silence. The second Dave got home, everything switches back on. 97 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:22,640 Speaker 1: He tells his mother and she immediately believes him. She 98 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: can tell by his face. That's the first adult truth 99 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: test in the story. 100 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 3: By Monday morning, the national press were already phone in 101 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 3: the school. Monday morning, we got into school. Instantly, the 102 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 3: headmaster pulled all of the ones who had claimed to 103 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 3: have seen the UFO to one side and isolated us. 104 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 3: It's about fourteen of us. He then put us in 105 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 3: examined conditions, sitting apart from each other, with him observing. 106 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: Gave us all a piece of paper. I said, I 107 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 3: want you to describe and draw what you saw. 108 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: This is when the head master does something really smart. 109 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: Fourteen kids separated, no collaboration, no discussion, exam conditions, draw 110 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: what you saw. 111 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:19,119 Speaker 3: We all drew the UFO that we'd seen, a brief 112 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 3: description of it. Then once we'd finished, the headmaster went round, 113 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 3: gathered up the pieces of papers, started looking at the 114 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 3: pieces of paper and went white. All of those illustrations 115 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:45,559 Speaker 3: depicted the same object. His kids had seen something. It 116 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 3: totally blew his mind and I didn't know what to think. 117 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 3: They all depicted a silver scar shaped object, a dome 118 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 3: that covered the middle third of the craft with a 119 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 3: red light on top. We all drew the same object, 120 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 3: no collaboration whatsoever, and no social media, no Internet, nothing. 121 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 2: So where does that tell you? 122 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 3: It very much confirms that we all saw the same thing. 123 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 4: Something strange came out of the skies and landed in 124 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:27,840 Speaker 4: the Welsh village of broad Haven, was spotted three times 125 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 4: by children from the local school. I've just been on 126 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 4: the phone to their headmaster. 127 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 5: I know that the sixteen children saw it. 128 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 6: And did they all see the same thing? 129 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:41,200 Speaker 4: Do you think I got them to draw and to 130 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 4: write what they saw with similarity between all of the scripts. 131 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 5: Fors and do you believe it? I believe they saw 132 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 5: something which is not common in the environment. 133 00:09:56,080 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 3: Media all around the world, TV crews arriving from every where. 134 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 4: The children say the object had a large dome, It 135 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 4: was cigar shaped and was silver in color. 136 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 3: It sort of dawned on us at that time that 137 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 3: this was something a little bit more serious. Senior offices 138 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 3: from raf Raud and the US Naval Facility wanted to 139 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:31,319 Speaker 3: talk to us and find out what we'd seen. They 140 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 3: looked at the illustrations we'd done, chatted with us as 141 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:40,080 Speaker 3: a group. They basically said, we have no idea what 142 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:44,319 Speaker 3: you've seen. What we can categorically state it has nothing 143 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 3: to do with us, but we honestly believe you've seen something. 144 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 3: The phones were being left off the hook at the school. 145 00:10:55,520 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 3: The headmaster was completely losing his will to live. We 146 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 3: weren't trying to sense thatationalia. We were just saying what 147 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 3: had happened. If you can find the old clip. I 148 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 3: think the old clips are still on YouTube or. 149 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 7: My friend Palatier was trying to find a way over 150 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 7: the stream and I was looking at the bushes up 151 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 7: the top of the trees. 152 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 3: I remember that bloody top and that acre that was 153 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 3: in the school playground. 154 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 7: The spaceship. It looks as a cigar shaped with a 155 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:42,680 Speaker 7: dome on it. 156 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,359 Speaker 6: It had a yellowy orange to red. 157 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 7: Light on the top. 158 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:55,359 Speaker 8: Clip in board Haven in Wales, some extremely interesting pictures 159 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 8: in some of the things that told me they couldn't 160 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 8: have known about impossible. 161 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 7: My friend Philippio was trying to find a way over 162 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 7: the steam and I was looking at the bushes up 163 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,040 Speaker 7: the top of the trees, and then suddenly the silver 164 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 7: cigar shaped objects seemed to pop up from behind the bushes, 165 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 7: trying to take off. Then it disappeared again. 166 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 4: Were you frightened at the time, yes, Now we got 167 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 4: some younger people in the studio who claimed to have 168 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 4: had encounters of their very own. 169 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 9: We just rung off. 170 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 7: We were so scared. 171 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 3: Wasn't just the broad Haven Coast. Other incidents in the 172 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:46,959 Speaker 3: area started happening. 173 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 10: They call it the broad Haven Triangle, an area here 174 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 10: in Pembrokeshire where sensible, down to earth people I constantly saying, 175 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 10: strange objects in the sky, sterious lights. It's an area 176 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 10: where an entire classroom of school children saw from their 177 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 10: playground a UFO. 178 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: Are you all honestly going to say that you think 179 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: that the things you saw were short of saying most 180 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: of this world? 181 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 3: Do you think those were related? Yeah? Basically the same objects. 182 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 3: Silver sco shaped objects sighted off the Gower Swansea coast, 183 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,239 Speaker 3: another one in Larn. 184 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 11: Yet another flying software to add to the lengthening list 185 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 11: of tame sightings over Pembrokeshire Compryside. 186 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 3: From the south of Wales right round to the southwest 187 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 3: the Wels Triangle. 188 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 11: Is it all really a case of mass hysteria or 189 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 11: is there some reality in the unreal The people who 190 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 11: live around Broadhaven will tell you that what they've experienced 191 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 11: has reeled up. 192 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 3: There was another case, the Ripperston Farming case. Things were 193 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 3: happening there that were almost like politiceist activity. 194 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: This story doesn't stay contained, it only starts spreading. 195 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: I could see this here the glight. 196 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 12: This find so fair. 197 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:31,480 Speaker 3: I knew the people involved. I had no reason to 198 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:32,720 Speaker 3: doubt what they were saying. 199 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: After the Broadhaven school incident, reports were coming in from 200 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: all across the region, different objects in the sky, the 201 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: same shapes and colors. There were other tales in that 202 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: region that play out like a nightmare. 203 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 5: When you're an ordinary farming family and you're convinced you've 204 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 5: seen spaceships and creatures from another planet, how do you 205 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 5: persuade friends, neighbors, and the world in general that you've 206 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 5: not taken leave of your senses. That's the constant problem 207 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 5: with Face Billy and Pauline and Coombs. 208 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 7: When it happened to me the first term, I thought, 209 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 7: you know, I'm imagining things. 210 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 3: Over the years, I've sort of tried not to dwell 211 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 3: on certain parts of the story. 212 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 2: What kind of details. 213 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 3: Occupants this silver suited figure was wandering around Pembrokeshire. 214 00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: Local residents claim to have seen an enormous, metallic like man, 215 00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: jumping fences, standing in the window, other strange lights in 216 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: the sky, and encounters that feel way more personal a. 217 00:15:58,640 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 6: Silver suited man. 218 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 7: It was the most terrifying experience of it. 219 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 2: Always something was happening, but what. 220 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 7: Their arms were exceptionally long, their legs were exceptionally long, 221 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 7: and they definitely didn't have face, and they were faceless people, 222 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 7: no eyes, no mouth. This thing throughout the hage, it 223 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 7: jumped over this gate. 224 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 6: There's something droll about it. No mind that jumped. 225 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 12: Back gate. 226 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 1: Ripperston form. This isn't a side quest, this is escalation. 227 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: The phenomenon leaves the schoolyard and enters private homes. 228 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 10: Police were called out the night of the incident at 229 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 10: the Combses Farm. 230 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 11: It's probably of all the incidents in my twenty sixts service, 231 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 11: that's the most friends of family I had helped us. 232 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 6: Do you see arguments? 233 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:15,719 Speaker 13: No, A lot has to be who your witnesses, the 234 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 13: age of the witness, perhaps, the social status of the witness, certainly, 235 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 13: the educational background, the integrity. 236 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 2: And then the contamination arrives. 237 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 3: The mold asked the local MP what's happening down in Pembrokeshire. 238 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 3: By the time the local MP had been asked that 239 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:47,960 Speaker 3: a hoax had been perpetrated, the guy walking around Pembrokeshire 240 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 3: dressed in a firefighter's suit, this silver suited figure that 241 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 3: was wandering around Pembrokeshire. Everybody knew the incidents that he 242 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 3: was responded sable for. You know, did they sort of 243 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 3: conflate these two things? Yes. When the MP was asked 244 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 3: what's going on in Pembirakeship regarding the UFO's fighting sources. 245 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 3: He got told about this person walking around Pembikship in 246 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 3: a silver suit pretending to be an alien, and everything 247 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 3: was closed down after that. That was the level of 248 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:31,960 Speaker 3: the inquiry. 249 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 2: Why do you think that happened? 250 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 3: The hoax thing? Because Pembrokeshire is full of idiots. We 251 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 3: arrived in school one morning to find the headmaster going 252 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:54,399 Speaker 3: absolutely nuts. There was what looked like a bomb in 253 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 3: the front playground of the school. We identified it as 254 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 3: the long range fuel tank of for Bomber. It was 255 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:11,840 Speaker 3: the fuel tankle for Bomber, this rocket shaped projectile planted 256 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: in the playground as a joke. My headmaster had got 257 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,680 Speaker 3: in touch with the media, said about it. They came 258 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 3: down and photographed it. Obviously, this is the UFO that 259 00:19:24,400 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 3: you saw. 260 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: Let's zoom out for a second. 261 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: Do you have all these kids who claim to have 262 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: seen the same UFO in their schoolyard, then subsequent sightings 263 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: of a similar object all around the region for months. 264 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 2: Then it gets weirder and darker. 265 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:47,800 Speaker 1: People claim to see this large metallic man stalking them. 266 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: Then there's reports of an actual man dressed up in 267 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:52,879 Speaker 1: a silver suit. 268 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, there were hoaxes at the time. I know of 269 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 3: one personally. He gave his story for the price of 270 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 3: a half answer tobacco, with no truth in it whatsoever. 271 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 3: We met one day and he actually thought I was 272 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 3: lying and confirmed it to me that he was lying, 273 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 3: and said, what about you, now, mate, who is this? 274 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 12: Oh? 275 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 3: Now that I don't want to confirm. If you get 276 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 3: in contact with any of the kids that saw this object, 277 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 3: they all except for two, maintain that they saw that object. 278 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 3: Now the two that's plained they didn't and that they 279 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 3: may did our Oh god, how can I've got this? 280 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 3: When something's happening like that, you always get a couple 281 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 3: of kids who will jump on a bandwagon. The majority 282 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 3: of us kids will tell you flat out straight, but 283 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 3: we saw what we saw. However, throughout all this time, 284 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 3: I've known that these particularly ones were possibly not being 285 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 3: completely honest. 286 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: This is how real events get buried, not by disproving them, 287 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:23,919 Speaker 1: by surrounding them with stupidity until nobody wants to touch them. 288 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: Poses don't erase the signal, They just drown it. 289 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 3: Over the years, I've sort of protected those two because 290 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 3: I don't want two people who just joined in at 291 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 3: the time because something that was happening who now say, oh, no, 292 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 3: we didn't see anything at all. I don't want those 293 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 3: two having a negative impact on what the rest of 294 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 3: us really did see. It's almost slipped into folklore. 295 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:10,679 Speaker 12: Just press the green says there, she knows they're here, 296 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 12: by the way, because I said to earlier. 297 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 14: On Oh yeah, I don't swear as you've been recorded. 298 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 12: Um, oh dear, it's a shame, ma'am. 299 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 3: Have you got have you got too minutes? Do you 300 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 3: remember the day I came home from school after seeing 301 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:35,919 Speaker 3: the UFO? 302 00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 12: Oh yeah, definitely. 303 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,920 Speaker 1: When he came home, what did he say? 304 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,440 Speaker 12: He said he had seen a UFO. I thought, oh, 305 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 12: you're joking you no boy. Anyway, I could tell by 306 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 12: his face that he was telling me the truth, because 307 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 12: I could always tell if he was telling me a 308 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 12: football or not. But I knew this was genuine. I 309 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:07,120 Speaker 12: knew it's something at that end. Yes, I believed them. 310 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 2: All these years later. What do you think happened that day? 311 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 2: What do you think these kids experienced. 312 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 12: After all these years? I strongly believe that they saw 313 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 12: something in the UFO which can't be explained, because I mean, 314 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 12: if they had lied, somebody would have spilled the beans. 315 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,360 Speaker 12: By now, and this has never ever happened. They still 316 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:34,320 Speaker 12: they still tell you exactly what happened, the same thing now, 317 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 12: all these years later. 318 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 3: Was he a good kid? 319 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 12: Uh? 320 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, Yeah, I think right. 321 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 12: Yes, you were on time. 322 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think it was after all these years? 323 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 12: Well? I keep an open mind, but I believe that 324 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 12: there is something of the I don't know. It's my 325 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 12: feeling that there is something. I haven't seen anything myself, 326 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,880 Speaker 12: but yeah, I do believe there's something there. 327 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 3: Okay, mam, talk to you. So in anyway, ma'am, all. 328 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 12: Right, golam giving paid. 329 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:30,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, by the words. In the early days, I had 330 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 3: probably thought that by now we'd have had confirmation with 331 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 3: being visited. The one thing that we have had in 332 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 3: confirmation of in recent years is that these damn things exist, 333 00:24:47,400 --> 00:24:49,360 Speaker 3: whether we know what they are, or where they're coming 334 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:55,119 Speaker 3: from or whatever. I confirming that these things exist major 335 00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 3: piece of vindication for me. Whilst I can't go out 336 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,640 Speaker 3: and say, okay, the alien's visiting, I can go out 337 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 3: and tell you the people, look, US government has confirmed 338 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 3: these dumb things exist. Now, please will you stop saying 339 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 3: they don't exist? I mean ghosts, the believing ghosts, you don't. 340 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:21,719 Speaker 3: You can't prove that ghosts exist. We improved that UFOs exist. 341 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: All these years later, you've had almost fifty years to 342 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: think about this. What do you think it was that 343 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:42,680 Speaker 1: you saw that day? 344 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:51,400 Speaker 3: I think I've probably entertained all hypotheses extraterrestrial, that it's 345 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:58,600 Speaker 3: one of ours, extra dimensional, even the possibility that these 346 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 3: things are not going from anywhere else, that they're a 347 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 3: lot more local than we think possibly coming from here. 348 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 3: And by here, I do not mean human intelligences here, 349 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 3: I mean another intelligence here. I mean I supposed to 350 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 3: cop out is to say aliens. A lot of it 351 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 3: makes no sense an intergalactic visitor would be coming here 352 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 3: to look at primary school for kids, and more Inklin 353 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 3: that a lot of it could possibly be more in 354 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 3: our neighborhood dimensionally, or another inhabitant of this planet that 355 00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 3: we just pretty much I'm sure about. If there was 356 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,960 Speaker 3: a whole logic, in the whole phenomena, it'd be a 357 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 3: lot easier to pin down where you think this is 358 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 3: coming from. I've been led down certain paths where I'm thinking, yeah, 359 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,879 Speaker 3: it's definitely aliens, it's it, yeah, yeah, And then all 360 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 3: of a sudden there's Oh no, it's not. It's not aliens. 361 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,640 Speaker 3: Some of these objects seem to be showing the ability 362 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 3: to dimensionally changed in some ways, disappearing in a puffet logic. 363 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 3: They don't seem to operate on the same physical plane 364 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 3: as conventionally air craft. Unfortunately, my knowledge of quantum mechanics 365 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,360 Speaker 3: isn't good to have to actually sort of get down 366 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 3: on this. But I mean, don't think I haven't tried. 367 00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 3: Perhaps there is a desire in me that I would 368 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 3: like it to be aliens or an interdimensional species or 369 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 3: something like that. Why because it confirms that there's a 370 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 3: greater universe out there. However, if suddenly declassified documents were 371 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 3: made available from the day or something that says, okay, 372 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:05,679 Speaker 3: sorry it was one of that ways, I would be 373 00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 3: happy with that. 374 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: But it's been fifty years, yeah, and. 375 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 3: Nothing, absolutely nothing. 376 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: We're moving into a world where fewer things will stop 377 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: and ask us what do you want. Most systems are 378 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: just going to guess, optimize and decide what makes sense 379 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: based on data and probability. And the annoying thing is, 380 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: most of the time they'll be right enough that it 381 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 1: feels stupid to argue that's the shift that's easy for 382 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: all of us to miss. 383 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 2: The future doesn't take. 384 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 1: Your choices away, It just makes it easier to stop 385 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: making them. 386 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 2: You don't lose control in one big moment. 387 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: You lose it in small handoffs, one click, one default, 388 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 1: one sure. That's fine, until suddenly you look up and 389 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: realize a lot of your life is running on autopilot. 390 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 1: The skill that matters now isn't resisting technology or just 391 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,360 Speaker 1: opting out of the world. It's noticing when you're drifting, 392 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: pausing long enough to ask a simple question, did I 393 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: actually choose this? Or am I just going along with 394 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: it because it's easier. That question shows up everywhere what 395 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: you tolerate but you let slide because you're tired or busy. 396 00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: We don't need to fight the future, We just need 397 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 1: to stay awake inside it, because once you stop choosing, 398 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: something else always chooses for you. As strange as broad 399 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: Haven is, it still sits in the realm of witness experience, sight, sound, memory, 400 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: and human perception. Humans sometimes aren't the most reliable witnesses. 401 00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean it didn't happen, but maybe the details 402 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: aren't always perfect. And when it comes to high strange stories, 403 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: there are some that leave physical traces, physical evidence, and 404 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: some of them don't make any sense at all. We're 405 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: talking about cases where animals are found dead in wide 406 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:47,280 Speaker 1: open country with entire sections of their bodies removed with 407 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: a level of precision that defies any easy explanation. No blood, 408 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 1: no tire tracks, no signs of other animals, no signs 409 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:02,000 Speaker 1: of a struggle period. One of the most unsettling stories 410 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: I found happened not long ago in eastern Oregon. 411 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 9: It was a very hot verse August. The livestock crew 412 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 9: was managing livestock out on the range, had cowboys out. 413 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 9: Later on that morning. I received a call from my 414 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 9: cowboss on the radio. We had these handheld radios that 415 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,480 Speaker 9: could reach across the ranch so we could stay in communication. 416 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:32,800 Speaker 6: He calls me on the radio and he. 417 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 9: Says, one of our range bulls is dead. It looks 418 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 9: like there's some odd, weird things about this animal. It 419 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 9: was kind of describing for me what he was seeing, 420 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:57,320 Speaker 9: and so I started asking questions. It was probably about 421 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 9: forty minutes later he calls me on the video again 422 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 9: and he says, you will not believe this. We found 423 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 9: another range bowl that is dead and it is nearly 424 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 9: in the exact same condition as the one that he 425 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 9: had found earlier. And I said, Okay, I'm going to 426 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 9: jump in my pickup and I'm gonna come up there 427 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 9: and take a look at it. 428 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 6: Now, I got two range bowls. 429 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 9: Both have the same mutilations on their body, and that is. 430 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 6: Just absolutely unheard of. 431 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 9: I walked up to the very first bull, and as 432 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 9: I'm walking up to him, I can just see his 433 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 9: back and he's laying on the ground. If you didn't know, 434 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 9: you'd say he was just laying there asleep. Walk around 435 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 9: on the other side so that I could see his belly. 436 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 15: And his legs, and that's when I saw that he 437 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 15: had had his testicles completely removed. 438 00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 6: The penis was completely removed. 439 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 9: After a little bit further investigation, we saw that his 440 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:25,840 Speaker 9: tongue had been removed as well. You're you're looking at 441 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 9: this and you're trying to process it in your brain 442 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 9: because nothing makes sense about it. There's no struggle marks 443 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 9: on the ground, there's. 444 00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 6: No indications that they'd put up a fight. There was 445 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 6: no bite marks, there was no bullet wounds. It was 446 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,440 Speaker 6: so odd. 447 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 9: I went back to the ranch, called the sheriff's office 448 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 9: and we got in touch with the State Police. 449 00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 6: Notified the Force Service what we had found. 450 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 9: Whoever's doing this understands anatomy, I mean surgical precision. 451 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 6: I've spent my whole entire life around livestock. 452 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 9: At no point in my life have I ever experienced 453 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 9: anything like that. It makes the hair on the back 454 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,879 Speaker 9: of your neck stand up. You start thinking, Okay, how 455 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,759 Speaker 9: could this happen? Who would want to do this? What's 456 00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:40,440 Speaker 9: the reason behind it? What's the purpose? I'm not naive 457 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 9: to think there is an other life in the universe. 458 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 6: Why is it being done? 459 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 2: Hi strange? 460 00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: It is a production by Tenderfoot TV in association with 461 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: iHeart Podcasts, created, hosted and edited by myself, Payne Lindsay. 462 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: Executive producers are myself and Donald Albright. Editing by Mike Rooney, 463 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:14,759 Speaker 1: Cooper Skinner and myself. Original scorer by Makeup and Vanity Set, 464 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: Sound design, mixing and mastering by Cooper Skinner. 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