1 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: This is a Jesse Kelly Show, The. 2 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 2: Jesse Kelly Show. Let's have some fun on a Thursday. 3 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 2: We are almost there. The end of the week is 4 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,920 Speaker 2: in sight, and oh my goodness, it's so beautiful. It's 5 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 2: like an oasis in the desert, only only it's not 6 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 2: a mirage. It's a real oasis. What Chris, And of 7 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,840 Speaker 2: course that oasis is asked Doctor Jesse Friday. That's tomorrow. 8 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 2: We'll get to that in a little bit. Yes, we're 9 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 2: gonna talk tariffs. I know you have questions. I have 10 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: Carol Roth actually joining us to clarify some of her 11 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: thoughts on it. People are pro tariffs, they're against tariffs, 12 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 2: all these other things. Can companies actually move away from 13 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 2: making communists filth from doing common things? We'll discuss that 14 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 2: fifty percent of the job cuts are federal worker jobs. 15 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:10,480 Speaker 2: That's awesome. Democrats continue to commit party suicide. All that 16 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 2: and so much more coming up on the world famous 17 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 2: Jesse Kelly Show, and yes, of course I already mentioned it. 18 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 2: Tomorrow is ask doctor Jesse Friday, ask me anything. Get 19 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 2: your questions emailed in right now to Jesse at Jesse 20 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: kellyshow dot com. Now let's let's talk. I know every 21 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 2: single headline has been about tariffs today. I know, even 22 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 2: though I haven't watched anything or listen anything, I'd be 23 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 2: willing to bet everything you've heard is, oh, my gosh, 24 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: these tariffs. This is the greatest thing ever. We've got 25 00:01:48,920 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 2: to do this, We've got to save America. Or oh, 26 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: these tariffs are the worst thing ever. We're all gonna die. 27 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 2: I know what you've seen all day long. Trump's out 28 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: there saying that from. 29 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 3: This day on, We're not going to let anyone tell 30 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 3: us that American workers and families cannot have the future 31 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 3: that they deserve. We're going to produce the cars and ships, chips, airplanes, minerals, 32 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 3: and medicines that we need right here in America. The 33 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 3: pharmaceutical companies are going to become roaring back. They're coming 34 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: roaring back. They're all coming back to our country because 35 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 3: if they don't, they got a big tax to pay. 36 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 3: And if they do, I'll be very happy, and you're 37 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:29,920 Speaker 3: going to be very happy, and you're going to be 38 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 3: very safe. We're going to build our future with American hands, 39 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 3: with American heart, American steel, and we're going to build 40 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 3: it with American. 41 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 2: Pride, like we used to, but he said this. 42 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: In the coming days, there will be complaints from the 43 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 3: globalists and the outsources and special interests and the fake news, 44 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 3: always fake news, will always complain, But never forget. Every 45 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 3: prediction our opponent's made about trade for the last thirty 46 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 3: years has been proven totally wrong. Wrong about NAFTA, they 47 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 3: were wrong about China. 48 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: They were wrong. 49 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,960 Speaker 3: About the Transpecific partnership, which would have been a disaster 50 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 3: if I didn't terminate it. If I didn't turn that 51 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 3: terminate that United Auto Workers, you would have had no 52 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 3: jobs in this country. You would have had no jobs. 53 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 3: I was all going to other countries. 54 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: Okay, So I'm going to say maybe the most controversial 55 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 2: thing I've ever said on the radio. And I know 56 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 2: that's saying something because it's me, and apparently I offend 57 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: people all the time on a daily basis. So here 58 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 2: it is, you know what I think about these tariffs 59 00:03:39,520 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 2: that Trump just put down. I don't know. I don't 60 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 2: have a strong opinion. And allow me to elaborate a 61 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: little bit more. Here is the situation. Let's say we 62 00:03:56,120 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 2: have a small village, our one hundred person village. We 63 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: have a small village, and over the last fifty years, 64 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:09,320 Speaker 2: we've watched our small one hundred person village in the 65 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: middle of Africa. We've watched it really fall into a 66 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 2: state of disrepair. My dad, his dad and his dad 67 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:24,039 Speaker 2: before him, they raised cattle. Now all the cattle are gone, 68 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: the fences are broken down. In fact, the family business 69 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: had to shudder. Now we've moved on to do other things. 70 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 2: The buildings aren't as shiny and nice in our little village. 71 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 2: The sheds are following down. It's noticeably worse in our 72 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 2: village than it was fifty years ago. So somebody, somebody 73 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: comes up with this proposal. Hey, I have an idea. 74 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 2: Let's only elect left handed people to run the village 75 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 2: and see if they can turn things around. Now paus moment, 76 00:05:01,640 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: it's perfectly legitimate if you're part of that village to 77 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 2: question the sanity of electing only left handed people people. 78 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: You have every single right to say, well, wait a minute, 79 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 2: how does that solve anything. I know things are bad, 80 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: but that doesn't seem like it's an actual solution to 81 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 2: the problem. I don't know. That is perfectly within your rights. 82 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 2: If you're sitting there today saying I'm uncomfortable with the tariffs. 83 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 2: I don't know where we're gonna go here. I don't 84 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 2: want my life to be more expected expensive. I don't 85 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 2: like this. That is a perfectly reasonable argument to have 86 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:41,720 Speaker 2: good for you have your opinion. Also, it is a 87 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 2: perfectly reasonable argument to make that, well, whatever we've been 88 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: doing in the village wasn't working before. The village used 89 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 2: to be this. We used to have a cattle industry. 90 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 2: Now we don't have that anymore. Now the buildings are 91 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: falling down. Something has to change. That is a perfectly 92 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 2: reasonable argument in favor of tariffs. If you are one 93 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 2: of these people who says, I grew up in West Virginia, 94 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 2: I grew up in Weirton. I grew up and the 95 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: steel mill that used to be there, that kept the 96 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,719 Speaker 2: town alive. You either worked directly for the steel mill 97 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 2: or you worked for one of the companies that was 98 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: adjacent to the steel mill. The little diner right by 99 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 2: the steel mill, that's where everyone ate. The steel mill closed. 100 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 2: The diner's gone. The local school we used to have 101 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 2: a good school. Now that the steel mill is gone, 102 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 2: the tax dollars aren't coming into the community. The school sucks. 103 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 2: It's a disaster. It's perfectly reasonable if you've watched that 104 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: happen to weird in West Virginia, to step up and 105 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 2: say this isn't good and what happened here is bad, 106 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 2: and we need to go back to a time where 107 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 2: we have had a plant in this town where you 108 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:06,039 Speaker 2: could get a good job with a high school diploma, 109 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 2: a job that would provide for you and your family 110 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: and your children after you. That is perfectly reasonable to 111 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: want something like that. It is reasonable. Whatever your argument is, 112 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 2: it is reasonable. Here are two arguments that don't wash 113 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: at all. The first argument is this, well, it's not 114 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 2: a problem. That's something the laptop class says. That's something 115 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: people who do finance for a living say, Well, I 116 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: don't care about the steel mill whatever, what's the big deal. 117 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:45,120 Speaker 2: I grew up in the rust belt. We are rust 118 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 2: belt construction people. It may not be a big deal 119 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 2: in Manhattan. It's a big deal there and it affects lives, 120 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 2: It destroys lives. And look, even if you don't have 121 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 2: an ounce of empathy for the communities that have turned 122 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 2: into russ Belt drugged out communities. And yes, the drugs 123 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 2: are so pervasive now because poverty and it's just a disaster. 124 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 2: Even if you don't have any sympathy for them, well, 125 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 2: they need to get better jobs. Even if that's the 126 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 2: way you're putting it for purely national security reasons, it's 127 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 2: a big deal that we don't make things here anymore. 128 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: It's a big deal that our mortal enemy China, remember China, 129 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 2: They're not shy about the competitive nature of our relationship. 130 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 2: China publishes papers publicly that say, hey, we intend to 131 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: supplant America as number one in the world. We intend 132 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 2: to be the number one global power. China has published this. 133 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 2: They are honest about this. And we've looked across the 134 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 2: Pacific Ocean at that country that feels that way about us, 135 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:59,679 Speaker 2: and we sent them all of our manufacturing jobs. They 136 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: make all of our pharmaceutical stuff. That's not good. That's 137 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 2: it's not good. So you what you cannot do. You 138 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 2: cannot look at these rusted out towns where we used 139 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: to make things and provide great jobs and say, no, 140 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 2: big deal. That doesn't wash with me. And on the 141 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 2: flip side of that, what you can't do, what a 142 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 2: ridiculous argument is is well, this is just because we 143 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 2: don't have tariffs enough. That's not true. At all. You 144 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 2: can argue tariffs will help. That's again very reasonable argument 145 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 2: to make tariffs will help bring them back. But the 146 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 2: lack of tariffs is far from being the only reason 147 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 2: weird in West Virginia. Isn't what we're in West Virginia 148 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:54,439 Speaker 2: used to be. See, there are a lot of good 149 00:09:54,559 --> 00:09:58,680 Speaker 2: arguments to make on both sides of this, And the 150 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: truth is we won't know. You won't know, and I 151 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 2: won't know for quite some time. One day, one dip 152 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: in the stock market, that doesn't mean anything in the 153 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 2: long term. And I'm not saying it's meeting this, but 154 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 2: one day we don't know. The global markets are going 155 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 2: to react negatively to change. Will this work? I don't know. 156 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: Trump's presidency probably rests on it as far as how 157 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: he's thought of. If this drives the economy into the 158 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 2: side of a mountain, it's not gonna be good. If 159 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:34,719 Speaker 2: it does revitalize our manufacturing sector, it will, and nobody knows. 160 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: Now we have a huge show. I'm gonna do a 161 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 2: bunch of emails. I wanna, I'm wanna stop talking about this, 162 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 2: but we will. Look, let's just address France real quick. 163 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: Next, it's the Jesse Kelly show. 164 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 2: It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a spectacular Thursday. 165 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 2: Just talking a little bit of tariffs here, and I'm 166 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,200 Speaker 2: gonna talk about is it to Europe and the rest 167 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 2: of the world here In just a moment, I did 168 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,360 Speaker 2: get this email. So I'm about to ease your mind 169 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,839 Speaker 2: on something. This guy says, Jesse, I'm interested in what 170 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 2: Carol Roth was saying in your second segment on April seconds. 171 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: I'm right. It confused me more. I'll listen again. But 172 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: our country's not ripping us off. Okay. I had you 173 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 2: know Carol Roth that she always comes on the show. 174 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 2: Whatever she does, come on, come on the show. She 175 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 2: talks to economics with us. I had Carol on my 176 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 2: TV show yesterday. I got a bunch of emails about 177 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: the things Carol was saying, and I sat down and 178 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 2: thought to myself before the show, I thought, well, I 179 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 2: need to elaborate on what Carol was saying. And then 180 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 2: I thought, well, that's stupid. Why don't know, why don't 181 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 2: just get Carol to elaborate on what Carol was saying. 182 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 2: So Carol Roth is going to join us in ten 183 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 2: minutes from now. She has many, many, many thoughts on 184 00:11:55,600 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: these tariffs. She obviously is quite educated on the economy 185 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 2: and how things work. Well, here what Carol has to say. 186 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 2: I don't need to interpret it for you. Carol is 187 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 2: going to come interpret it for herself, although I guess 188 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 2: that wouldn't be interpreting it. I went to community college 189 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 2: either way. Uh McCrone. French President Emmanuel Macrone, he's upset 190 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 2: about the tariffs coming down. In fact, virtually the entire 191 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 2: European Union is Macrone called the tariffs and I quote 192 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 2: brutal and unfounded. He called for a suspension of investment 193 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: in the United States of America. Quote what would what 194 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: would be the message of big European actors invest billions 195 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,559 Speaker 2: of euros in the US economy and at the very 196 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 2: or at the very moment, they're hitting us. So here's 197 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 2: what I find funny about this. This is actually not gonna 198 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: be about tariffs. Here's what I find funny. It seems like, well, 199 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 2: you know what, pass I'll go. I'm gonna I'm gonna 200 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,360 Speaker 2: switch stories here. It's a story. I'll come back to it. 201 00:13:01,840 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 2: I had a buddy, I say I had because I 202 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: haven't talked to him in ten years. He was more 203 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 2: of a childhood friend. But I had a buddy and 204 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 2: he was half Mexican. Dad was white, mom was Mexican. 205 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 2: And he loved, absolutely adored jokes about Mexicans and you know, 206 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: funny racist jokes about Mexicans. He loved them. It was 207 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: his favorite thing in the world. And he was a 208 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 2: cowboys family. There were cowboys. They were all cowboys. He 209 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 2: also loved, absolutely loved going to Mexican cookouts, hanging out 210 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 2: with his mom's family, gigantic Mexican events. And we used 211 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: to joke with him. I remember we were joking with 212 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 2: him hard one time because he said some racist joke 213 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: about Mexicans, and we said to him, you know, it 214 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 2: really seems like you're only Mexican when it's convenient when 215 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 2: you want to tell a good Mexican joke. You're white 216 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 2: when it's convenient, and you're Mexican when it's convenient. And 217 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 2: he got the biggest smile on his face, and he's like, Yeah, 218 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 2: that's pretty much true. You swoop in and out of 219 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,959 Speaker 2: being a Mexican, right, Sometimes you're Mexican and sometimes you're white. 220 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 2: Does it occur to you that europe seems to do 221 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 2: this with their nationality and patriotism all the time. They're 222 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:27,120 Speaker 2: always well, no, this is for France, this is for Germany, 223 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 2: this is what's best for Germans. But when it comes 224 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 2: to the United States of America, we get quotes like 225 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 2: this from Macrone quote, well, what would be the message 226 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:42,320 Speaker 2: if European actors? You're French, do you speak for all 227 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: of Europe? Now? I feel like the Europeans they tend 228 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 2: to act like Europe is one country when it's convenient, 229 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 2: and when it's not, they dump that whole thing. Well, 230 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: this is all about us here in Belgium. That's one too. 231 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 2: My actual point on all this is it does feel 232 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 2: like we are changing our relationships with the entire planet, 233 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: and a lot of people, really, myself included, would say 234 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 2: it's time. It's time. For a long time, really, since 235 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: World War Two, our relationship with Europe has been we 236 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: protect you. That's been our relationship. And I'm not actually 237 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 2: dismissive of the European economic situation. I realized we are 238 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 2: trading partners with them, and there's all kinds of collaboration. 239 00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 2: I'm not naive. I understand we collaborate on this, and 240 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 2: we have this military base here, and I get that 241 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 2: there's some collaboration, but the basic understanding has been since 242 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 2: World War Two. Remember, we helped rebuild Europe hugely. We 243 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 2: helped rebuild Europe. The United States of America, our military, 244 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 2: our might, we will guard Europe. And it's not that 245 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: we get nothing in return, but we don't get that much. 246 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 2: And all of Europe, because this has been what eighty years, 247 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: all of Europe has been understandably conditioned to this. No 248 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 2: different than people on welfare. How hard it is to 249 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 2: get people off of welfare. Once you get used to 250 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: getting paid for not working on that, Once that gets 251 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 2: into your bones, it's hard to make adjustments. You know, 252 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 2: we have families out of Talk to a buddy one 253 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: time about a bad neighborhood here in Houston. He said, 254 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: you realize there are families here. They're on their fourth 255 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 2: generation of never having a job. Mom never had one, 256 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 2: Dad never had one, Grandpa never had one. Great just 257 00:16:49,080 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: fourth generation. You don't get a job, you go get welfare. 258 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 2: Europe has been on America's welfare for a long time. 259 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 2: They've understandably gotten very, very used to it. They want 260 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: that to continue, and so when anybody threatens to take 261 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 2: them off, it sounds what did he say? Brutal and unfounded? Anyway, 262 00:17:11,960 --> 00:17:14,400 Speaker 2: I just found that entertaining. Let's talk to Carol Roth, 263 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 2: see what she thinks about all these things. She has 264 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 2: many thoughts Before we get to Carol, and then we'll 265 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 2: move on. We'll do emails and other stuff. I'm gonna 266 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 2: talk to you about hiring. I know how hard it 267 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 2: is to find a good employee. I have two people, 268 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: two people who I work with here in the studio, 269 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:38,560 Speaker 2: both of them totally mediocre. That's why zip recruiter exists. 270 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:44,399 Speaker 2: So you don't need a Chris, you don't need a Corey. 271 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 2: You need somebody decent. Zip recruiter has something called zip Intro. 272 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:55,240 Speaker 2: You'll get a quick video conference, back to back video calls, 273 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 2: I should say, with potential candidates. So honestly, if you 274 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 2: ever met Chris, even by video, and it would take 275 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 2: you thirty seconds to completely dismiss him as a prospective employee, 276 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 2: saving yourself the headache that I go through every day. 277 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:14,439 Speaker 2: And did you know you try zip intro for free 278 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 2: at ZipRecruiter dot com slash Jesse, ZipRecruiter dot com slash Jesse. 279 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 2: Zip intro that essentially lets you speed date employees. Don't 280 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 2: make the mistake I made, all right, Carol Roth. 281 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: Next, get the cure for rhinos week days with the 282 00:18:34,720 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly Show. 283 00:18:35,920 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 2: It is the Jesse Kelly Show, gosh that makes me 284 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 2: go back to my childhood. Joining me now as promised 285 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 2: is the great Carol Roth. Obviously I don't even really 286 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,360 Speaker 2: have to introduce her on this show anymore. She knows 287 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:53,239 Speaker 2: about the economy. She writes amazing books. Also, she I'm 288 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 2: about to yell at her about this is giving out 289 00:18:55,000 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 2: a free economic newsletter at Carolroth dot com slash news. Carol, 290 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 2: what kind of a what kind of a person gives 291 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: out a free newsletter? Charge people for that? 292 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,680 Speaker 4: Oh, they'll pay for it eventually, Jesse. It's some way, 293 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 4: in some way, shape or form, they'll pay for it. 294 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 4: It doesn't always have to be upfront. 295 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,239 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, fine, all right, fine, Carol, Okay. So 296 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 2: every single Tom, Dick and Harry has a lot of 297 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 2: very very strong opinions about tariffs today because people they 298 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 2: have they have a version in their mind of how 299 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:33,159 Speaker 2: an economy should run. Walk us through the dangers the 300 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 2: benefits if you know them. What what's the Carrol Roth 301 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 2: theory on what's happening right now. The floor is yours. 302 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, so instead of a new global economic order, we 303 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 4: got new global economic chaos. Welcome to twenty twenty five. 304 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 4: I think the challenge with talking about tariffs is talking 305 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 4: about them visa vi the background that we have, right, 306 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:01,320 Speaker 4: because nothing happens in a vacuum. All happens in context. 307 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 4: And if you think about coming out of the Biden administration, 308 00:20:05,960 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 4: where people were truly decimated, their personal balance sheets were decimated. 309 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 4: We went through this crazy inflation amongst other issues with 310 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 4: the border and whatnot, that people were looking to Trump 311 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 4: to stabilize things. They were looking for him to stabilized prices, 312 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:28,919 Speaker 4: to provide certainty, to create that optimism, to create deregulation, 313 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 4: to create incentives, to create uh you know, make the 314 00:20:33,280 --> 00:20:37,200 Speaker 4: tax cuts permanent, all of those things, to spur growth 315 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 4: in a very clear, dynamic way. And so I think 316 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 4: that part of the reason why people are so upset 317 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 4: is that, you know, they were hoping that maybe that 318 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 4: would happen first and we would be able to see 319 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 4: some of that growth before we start, you know, putting 320 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 4: things on that are frankly disincentives. You know, a tariff 321 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 4: is attack it's a disincentive, so they were hoping things 322 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 4: would go in a different direction. I think the other 323 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:09,720 Speaker 4: issue is that many people were hoping his approach would 324 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,440 Speaker 4: be more surgical, because I think most of us could 325 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,639 Speaker 4: agree that there are certain areas that we have to 326 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 4: have locked and loaded in the United States, areas that 327 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 4: pertain to defense manufacturing and critical components of supply chain 328 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:29,359 Speaker 4: of pharmaceuticals that it makes sense to have in the 329 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 4: United States now, to the extent we don't have them already, 330 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,239 Speaker 4: that is not going to spring up overnight, and so 331 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,640 Speaker 4: we need some sort of a transition plan. And when 332 00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:43,040 Speaker 4: we have a situation where we just have broad based 333 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 4: tariffs that are introduced yesterday is reciprocal, even though that's 334 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 4: not what the math actually worked out to be. That 335 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 4: is done without thought to what that means for small 336 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 4: business owners and others that you don't have the runway 337 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 4: to look out five or ten years on the manufacturing plan. 338 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 4: I think that's the frustration. It's feeling very chaotic, and 339 00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 4: it could have been done in a better way, with 340 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 4: better choreography and better communication to achieve the objective. So 341 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 4: it's not so much that anybody's rooting against what President 342 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:23,719 Speaker 4: Trump is doing. It's how this has come into effect. 343 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 2: So space Oh okay, So if you understand it, because 344 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:33,040 Speaker 2: I do not, could you explain why the lack of 345 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 2: reciprocal tariffs, because obviously that's something Trump is hot on. 346 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 2: He's been hot on this since long before he was 347 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 2: a politician. He's been talking about that for thirty years 348 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 2: and he's been talking about it since he got elected president. 349 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 2: We're going to mirror your your tariff. We're going to 350 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 2: mirror your tariff. And then we got that form yesterday 351 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: and we're not mirroring. Mirroring that's a hard word. Actually, 352 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 2: we're not doing the same tariffs they're doing for the 353 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:54,680 Speaker 2: most part. 354 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 4: Why Yeah, I mean that is the multi billion, maybe 355 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 4: trillion dollar question. I think if it had come out 356 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 4: and kind of I think my expectation was that Howard Lutnik, 357 00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 4: in having you a month or however long time, was 358 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 4: going to come back and go, okay, for Japan, they 359 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 4: charged a seven hundred percent on rights, So we're going 360 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,199 Speaker 4: to charge the seven hundred percent on rights. You know, 361 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 4: a real eye for eye situation. That didn't happen. It 362 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,840 Speaker 4: wasn't that, you know, Japan overall charges US x percent 363 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 4: and so we're going to charge them x percent. That 364 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 4: didn't happen. They came up with some crazy calculation that 365 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 4: was the trade and balance divided by imports, and then 366 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 4: they took fifty percent of that as a reciprocal tariff, 367 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 4: which in no way, shape or form in any economic 368 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,320 Speaker 4: sphere does that even make any sense, let alone meet 369 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 4: the definition of reciprocal. And it also had a ten 370 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 4: percent floor, so even if you weren't charging US tariffs, 371 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 4: you were getting ten percent, or if we had a 372 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,719 Speaker 4: trade surplus with you then and even if you were 373 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,719 Speaker 4: charging us a lot more, you got charge to ten percent. 374 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 4: So that's another thing. It doesn't instill a lot of 375 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 4: confidence in this particular tactic when you go back to 376 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,640 Speaker 4: what's being said and you try to do the maths, 377 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,159 Speaker 4: and I think it goes back to some of the 378 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 4: issues with the communication and the conflicts. You know, you 379 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,200 Speaker 4: hear people saying, well, the tariffs are going to make 380 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 4: us wealthy, but we're just looking for parity. Well, you 381 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,720 Speaker 4: can't have both of those. Oh, they're going to make 382 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 4: us wealthy, but we're bringing manufacturing back from the United 383 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 4: States so that we're not buying things abroad. Well, those 384 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,760 Speaker 4: two things are in conflict. We need a weaker dollar, 385 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 4: but tariffs over time typically will strengthen those dollars. Like 386 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 4: that doesn't make any sense. So unfortunately, the things that 387 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 4: are being said, whether their art of the deal or not, 388 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 4: are in conflict. And people are really focused on this 389 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 4: because they don't understand it and they want to understand it, 390 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 4: and it's just not adding up. The math is not mathing. 391 00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,959 Speaker 2: Okay, So let's talk about the market. Because, as you 392 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 2: have educated us before, as I've said many times on 393 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 2: the radio show, I'm sure I stole it from you, 394 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 2: the economy is not the stock market, right. I mean, 395 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 2: the stock market's part of it, but it's not the 396 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 2: only thing that matters. The stock market wasn't thrilled today, 397 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 2: but stock markets go up, stock markets go down. What 398 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: has them so upset specifically about it? 399 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 4: So I think there are a couple things. The stock 400 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 4: market was definitely overvalued, and when we got the first 401 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 4: round of tariffs, it was really looking for any excuse 402 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:37,120 Speaker 4: to kind of come into some sort of a correction. 403 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 4: So we had that, and then the market was sort 404 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,719 Speaker 4: of optimistic that Trump would come up with something that 405 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 4: was more measured and more surgical like we spoke of, 406 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 4: and that where the math made sense and the rationale 407 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 4: made sense. And yesterday what happens to companies all across 408 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 4: the board is that companies who have been trying to 409 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 4: decouple China because we've said we have to stop with 410 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 4: our dependence on China and have moved their supply chains 411 00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 4: to Vietnam and sit India and wherever else, have now 412 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 4: been told, by the way, you're going to pay a 413 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 4: forty three percent tariff on whatever it is you're making, 414 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 4: So whether it's Nike or restoration hardware. It was actually 415 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 4: having an earnings call in the middle of this announcement 416 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 4: and the CEO absolutely lost his mind because only fourteen 417 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 4: percent of what they made make is made in America. 418 00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 4: These companies are realizing that it's just not tenable. And 419 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 4: I know there are probably people listening to this and saying, well, 420 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 4: we want manufacturing made in America, and I agree with you, 421 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 4: but factories don't happen overnight. There's a lot of regulation. 422 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 4: There are certain things because of our regulatory environment and 423 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 4: our cost of labor and our cost of energy, that 424 00:26:55,720 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 4: we never can make in America. So instead of going 425 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 4: out and you know, making these decisions in a measured 426 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 4: manner and allowing these these companies to come up with 427 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 4: strategy a plan. They've just been hit over the head 428 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 4: and nobody can react to that in a positive way. 429 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,360 Speaker 4: So the market is really reflecting that. It's also reflecting 430 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 4: just they broad a concern that this is going to 431 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 4: create a recessionary environment for the same reasons we're talking about. Uh, 432 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,040 Speaker 4: and that's why you're seeing the flights of safety. You're 433 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 4: seeing some of the investors go into treasury bonds, longer 434 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,000 Speaker 4: term treasury bonds, go into things like gold and the like. 435 00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 4: So it's you know, it's creating a lot of concerns. 436 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 4: And it's not just Wall Street, it's also Main Street. 437 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 4: It's also the amount of taxes that we collect. So again, 438 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 4: I know that there's not a lot of sympathy. Okay, 439 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 4: well the market went down, boohoo, you're four O one K. 440 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 4: But it flows through everything and this is not good 441 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 4: for the Country Tree to have this level of uncertainty 442 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 4: and pessimism because that becomes very self fulfilling. 443 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,600 Speaker 2: She is Carol Roth. She is as sharp as they come. 444 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 2: Carolroth dot com, slash News. She's got a free newsletter. 445 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk to her about that off the air. Carol, 446 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:27,800 Speaker 2: I appreciate you as always. All right, guess what held 447 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 2: strong today? Precious metals? 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We'll 462 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 2: be back. 463 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: Jesse Kelly. 464 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 5: It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Thursday, 465 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 5: reminding you that tomorrow is an ask doctor Jesse Friday, 466 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 5: and you need to get your questions. 467 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 2: Ask me anything doesn't even have to be political. Get 468 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 2: your questions emailed in now to Jesse at jesse kellyshow 469 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 2: dot com. They're already rolling in and stacking up. Let's 470 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 2: let's clear some out here, shall we. Jesse. I just 471 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 2: started out to listening to you. I heard one of 472 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 2: your listeners was a January sixth guy. I was a 473 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 2: January sixth guy. It's great to be out. I've lost everything, 474 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 2: my dog, my belongings, Jesse. I did not step one 475 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,840 Speaker 2: foot in the Capitol. The FBI came to my door, Jesse. 476 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 2: As a former marine, I'm very disappointed in my country. 477 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 2: I just wish I had my dog back. I screamed 478 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 2: about the January sixth political protesters for a long time. 479 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 2: Not Johnny come lately to this. They have always been 480 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 2: on my heart for a few different reasons. Probably the 481 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:57,320 Speaker 2: main reason is I really I just have something against 482 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 2: powerless people being smashed in lead. I despise it. I 483 00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 2: despise evil governments, evil secret police agencies. I despise them. 484 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 2: And it's obvious to anybody paying attention whether you think 485 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 2: the government did January sixth, as in they organized it 486 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 2: or just simply took advantage of January sixth. It's obvious 487 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: to communists inside of our government, inside of our Justice Department, 488 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 2: used it as an excuse to hurt their political opponents. 489 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,280 Speaker 2: It's obviously what they did. And then they bragged about 490 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 2: it while they did it, and they promised to do 491 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 2: more of it. But all that everything I just said, 492 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 2: it misses the human element of it, doesn't it. I mean, 493 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 2: it's it's statistics, it's a story, it's a headline. It's 494 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 2: but here's a guy didn't even step foot in the building. 495 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 2: All he wants is his dog back. Has life wrecked? 496 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 2: FB came to his house, wrecked his life. Man, think 497 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,760 Speaker 2: if that's fred One, that big fluffy moron would be. 498 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 2: It hurts the think about that, doesn't it. And look, 499 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 2: this guy lost his dog and I'm not dismissive of that. 500 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 2: But people lost loved ones, spouse's, girlfriend's, boyfriends, kids, families, 501 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 2: shattered careers. You know, if you work for a big 502 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 2: corporation or even a small one, really they don't want 503 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 2: to be associated with the political, a felon something like that, 504 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 2: so they dump you. Remember the guy yesterday worked his 505 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 2: butt off, wanted to be an EMT can't get that 506 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 2: job now. And these lives that are ruined are ruined, 507 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 2: meaning it's not that they were ruined. And now that 508 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:58,080 Speaker 2: Trump got in there and pardoned everybody, everything's hunky dory. 509 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 2: Everything is not hunky dory. What the Communists did in 510 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 2: a million different ways, not just the January sixth people, 511 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 2: is really really sick and evil. It's really evil. And 512 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 2: these are real people, real men and women, who had 513 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 2: their lives wrecked. And what drove me crazy, what drove 514 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 2: me nuts. If you've listened to the show for a 515 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 2: long time, you know I'm telling the truth about this 516 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 2: is for the longest time, nobody cared in American politics. 517 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:32,040 Speaker 2: There were very very few people who spoke out and 518 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 2: spoke up on behalf of the little people who were 519 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 2: being smashed by the government, including on the right, most 520 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 2: of the right, ninety nine percent of the right, wouldn't 521 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 2: say anything. Now, once Trump started running for office again, 522 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 2: the January sixth People got real convenient to politic on. 523 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 2: But it was real lonely and the January sixth wilderness 524 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 2: there for about two years, and I just can't stand it, man, 525 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 2: I can't stand it. Injustice like that gets to me 526 00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 2: to no end, which actually to this story. Jesse, could 527 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 2: you please bring up the awful story of Austin Metcalf 528 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:09,439 Speaker 2: had happened right in Texas this week. I am a 529 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,839 Speaker 2: current public school employee. Please don't say my name. In 530 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 2: case you haven't seen this story, I would recommend not 531 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 2: looking it up. This took place in Frisco, Texas, and 532 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 2: when I first moved to Texas, that's where I moved. 533 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 2: I lived in Frisco, Texas and it was a wonderful, 534 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 2: very safe town. And seventeen year old kid with a 535 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 2: twin brother, four point zero student athlete, gets in a 536 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,560 Speaker 2: little verbal altercation at a track meet with some other 537 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 2: kid who wasn't from their school. Came and sat in 538 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 2: their tent and he said, hey, man, this isn't your area. 539 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 2: You need to leave. And I don't know for word 540 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:53,400 Speaker 2: what was said, but I know the other kid pulled 541 00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 2: out a knife, stabbed this seventeen year old boy in 542 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,840 Speaker 2: the throat, and his twin brother held him as he 543 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 2: ed to death. I'll be honest. My wife brought up 544 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 2: the story to me first thing this morning when I 545 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 2: was waking up. She was up before me, and she 546 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 2: came in and she was just greeting me, kissing me 547 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 2: in good morning, and we were talking things like that, 548 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:18,800 Speaker 2: and I actually had to apologize to her. I texted 549 00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 2: her not long before the show started. I texted her 550 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 2: in apology because I actually snapped at her. She was 551 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 2: talking to me about the story, and it was so 552 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 2: horrible and all I could picture were my boys. You know, 553 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 2: they go to track meets. My kids are in track. 554 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 2: My kids could have that could happen anything to anyone 555 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 2: of my boys, or your girls or your boys. It 556 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,319 Speaker 2: hit me so hard. And it was first thing in 557 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 2: the morning that I've fled out, told her, I don't 558 00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:43,839 Speaker 2: want to talk about this anymore. And I just got 559 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 2: up and I walked away, just let out snapped at her. 560 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 2: That's how That's how heartbreaking I find this whole thing, 561 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,240 Speaker 2: and I can't make sense of it. For you, It's awful. 562 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,479 Speaker 2: The only thing I'm gonna say about this is say 563 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:02,640 Speaker 2: a prayer for the Metcalf family. They need prayer. Unimaginable 564 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 2: sorrow and grief they're going through now. I lost my 565 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 2: dad almost six months ago. I still grieve hard. Comes 566 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 2: in waves. Some days I'm okay. Some days I just 567 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 2: get I don't even want to get out of bed. 568 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 2: Just this is the way grief works, right. This is 569 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 2: a seventeen year old boy with his whole life ahead 570 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 2: of him, and by the sounds of things, he was 571 00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:26,759 Speaker 2: gonna be one of those people that really made the 572 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 2: world better, not worse, and taken away by some animal prayer. 573 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 2: That's what the family needs. That's all I'm gonna say 574 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 2: about this whole thing. The family needs prayer. It's a 575 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 2: frightening world out there, all right, All right, Well that 576 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 2: was heavy. Gosh, that was a heavy segment. It was 577 00:36:46,880 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 2: too heavy, Chris, You know how heavy it were. It 578 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 2: is as heavy as ten boxes that you might be moving. 579 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:56,680 Speaker 2: But rough greens isn't heavy. Rough greens will ease your 580 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,840 Speaker 2: burden and enlighten your load, you know how. You know 581 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:03,200 Speaker 2: why because vet. Taking your dog to the vet is 582 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 2: freaking expensive, or your cat. You know, they have malgreens too. 583 00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 2: It's freaking expensive. And I don't want to sound like 584 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:13,040 Speaker 2: Chris here, but I like to save money. I know 585 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 2: you like to save money. Rough greens is a nutritional supplement, 586 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:22,480 Speaker 2: a healthy supplement with live vitamins. And minerals, digestive enzymes. 587 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 2: Does your dog have digestive problems ever? Fred used to 588 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,720 Speaker 2: all the time. Now he doesn't anymore. Digestive enzymes, probiotics, 589 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 2: you want to try it, just let your dog try it. 590 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 2: You sprinkle it on your dog's food. You don't have 591 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 2: to get new food or anything like that. Your dog 592 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 2: will come alive and stay alive. Better energy, digestive system 593 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 2: works better, His coat will look better. It's just you 594 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:51,160 Speaker 2: can have a better dog and save money because you're 595 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 2: not at the vet all the time. Or a better cat. 596 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 2: Free jumpstart trio bags at eight three three three three 597 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:04,160 Speaker 2: my dog or go to Roughgreens dot com slash Jesse. 598 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 2: All right, let's talk about the firing of federal workers, 599 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 2: but more importantly, can companies get away from this communist 600 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:14,879 Speaker 2: stuff next