1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Disgraceland as a production of Double Elvis. 2 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: The story about Happy Mondays might be one of the 3 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: most transgressive rock and roll stories that I've ever told. 4 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,880 Speaker 2: The group was started by a teenage thief who, if 5 00:00:22,880 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 2: you can believe this, once bit a dog while completely 6 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 2: high on acid. The bandmates were nearly killed trying to 7 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 2: score crack in Harlem in New York. They introduced ecstasy 8 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 2: to Manchester, England, and ran the small army of dealers 9 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: who sold it at the legendary Hacienda nightclub. These guys 10 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: stole their own records from their record label so that 11 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 2: they could sell them and support their drug habit, and 12 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: of course they tried to kidnap both Donovan and Johnny Marr. 13 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 2: Happy Mondays did all of this while making great music, 14 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 2: music that would come to define an era known as Madchester. Now, 15 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 2: unlike that music I played for you at the top 16 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:08,400 Speaker 2: of the show. That was not great music. That was 17 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 2: a preset loop from my mellotron called Salford's Slow Dance MK. 18 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:13,680 Speaker 3: Two. 19 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 2: I played you that loop because I can't afford the 20 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 2: rights to it. Must have been love by Roxette, And 21 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 2: why would I play you that specific slice of pretty 22 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,679 Speaker 2: woman's soundtracking cheese Could I afford it? Because that was 23 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 2: the number one song in America on June twenty second, 24 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 2: nineteen ninety and that was the day that Happy Mondays 25 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 2: arrived at Glastonbury for the biggest show of their career, 26 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 2: bringing with them a level of criminality in chaos so. 27 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 3: Problematic that it would literally shut down the esteemed festival 28 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:46,960 Speaker 3: for a year. 29 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 2: On this episode, thieves, dealers, kidnappings, crack, ecstasy, transgression galore 30 00:01:54,560 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 2: and Happy Mondays. I'm Jake Brennan and this is discrete Land. 31 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: There wasn't an art to the thieving. It was never 32 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,399 Speaker 2: meant to be this graceful, poetic thing. It was all 33 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 2: action and adrenaline. It was smash grab, take whatever you 34 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,360 Speaker 2: could sell. Here in the dirty old town of nineteen 35 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 2: seventy Salford, that's the city directly. 36 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 3: Next to Manchester, England. 37 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 2: Easy targets for thieving were easy to find. One of 38 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: the pubs kept its overstock of booze unguarded in a 39 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 2: garage next door, so when no one was looking, you 40 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: went ahead and got access to the garage by hook 41 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: or by crooker, whatever was needed, and you took as 42 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 2: many bottles as you could fit into your sticky fingers, 43 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 2: and then you hauled ass down the cobbled street. Not 44 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: just booze though, clo bikes, whatever you could get your 45 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 2: hands on, you would steal and you would sell. He 46 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: didn't do it just for the money. You did it 47 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 2: because you might get caught. And that means your heart 48 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 2: pound in your blood pump, and that gave the whole enterprise, 49 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 2: meaning thinking that you could get caught, that gave you life. 50 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: Sean Ryder had been a thieving little Salford punk ever 51 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 2: since he was a kid, and as anyone worth their 52 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,919 Speaker 2: salt from Salford will tell you, that's an even tougher 53 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 2: breed of thieving little punk than they were raised across 54 00:03:31,639 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: the river in Manchester. Sean's delinquent interest went beyond stealing, 55 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: though He started fire as he set off smoke bombs, 56 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 2: He dropped bricks from highway overpasses, and he imagined that 57 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 2: he looked cool doing it, as well as cool perhaps 58 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: as Steve Marriott of the Small Faces or David Bowie 59 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: on Top of the Pops. 60 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: Even cooler was David Essex. 61 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 3: David Essex oohs. 62 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: That blue Jean baby clean rock and roll rebellion in 63 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: the film That'll Be The Day and equal stardust David 64 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 2: Xcess rocked on. But Sean Ryder was no matinee idol 65 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: like David Essex, and he wasn't a rock star with 66 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 2: a stylish mod haircut like Steve Mario. He couldn't even 67 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 2: play an instrument at fifteen years old. He was just 68 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 2: a high school dropout who barely knew the alphabet. He 69 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: was a dropout who needed a job, a real job, 70 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: because Petty Thievery wasn't going to cut it anymore. So 71 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: Sean Ryder found work at the postal service. Like his 72 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 2: father before him. It was all so predictable, so boring, 73 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: and job this boring required a little outside influence to 74 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 2: make it more tolerable, which is how Sean Ryder wound 75 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 2: up delivering the Royal mail as a teenager while tripping 76 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 2: his brains out on LSD. 77 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 3: The acid kicked in a little earlier than usual. Not 78 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 3: that he was complaining. 79 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 2: LSD made his sole sucking postal wrote that much more 80 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: or bearable. Some people got paranoid on acid, not Sean, 81 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: and he had plenty to be paranoid about the scam 82 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 2: he'd been running with those yellow pages, the ones he 83 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 2: got paid extra to deliver the thousands that he said 84 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 2: he delivered, even though he never delivered a single one. 85 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,480 Speaker 2: It put him under the microscope. And now some Internal 86 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: Affairs Division or whatever the Royal Mail called it was 87 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 2: watching him every step of the way. He was walking 88 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: his route and doing his best to remain upright while 89 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 2: a row of houses began to droop to the ground 90 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 2: like he was in a Salvador Dolly painting. Can you 91 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 2: imagine delivering the mail on acid, turning of stuff letters 92 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: through a slot in the door while the door is 93 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 2: talking to you. Even worse delivering the mail high on 94 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 2: lsc was when that dog started barking at you. It 95 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 2: was the same thing every day, that dog yapping and 96 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,919 Speaker 2: snarling at Sean like it wanted to kill him. He 97 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 2: could picture the headline dog bites mail man. 98 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 3: What a cliche. 99 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 2: But that wasn't gonna happ today, because as Shawn got 100 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 2: closer and the dog got louder, Sean, in his highly 101 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:09,480 Speaker 2: altered state, he got himself a better idea. He reached 102 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,600 Speaker 2: down and took the dog in his hands, and as 103 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 2: he did so, the dog didn't bite him as he 104 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,039 Speaker 2: would think, given how this is all played out, Instead, 105 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 2: Sean Rider bit the dog. Yes, a teenage mail man 106 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 2: high on acid, bit the dog that had been harassing 107 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:29,359 Speaker 2: him every day on his mail route. And so Seawan 108 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 2: Ryder's career in the Royal Mail ended. So now, at 109 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: age eighteen, Sean Rider was on the dole unemployment, sitting 110 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: around board and pretending to be depressed so that his 111 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 2: doctor would prescribe him meds. 112 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 3: That he could use to get high. 113 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 2: Even at this young age, Sean knew he was not 114 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: cut out for a regular day job. On the other hand, 115 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 2: he couldn't sink into a life of total criminality, because 116 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: that was just another kind of dead end, or required 117 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: an outlet where he could exercise his long held criminal 118 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 2: impulses but do so in a socially acceptable way. You 119 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: can't do that if you're working for the postal service, 120 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 2: but you can do that if you're in a rock band. 121 00:07:14,680 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: And I'm not talking about David Essex or David Bowie. 122 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 2: I'm talking about something more attainable, like the local bands 123 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: who had begun to make a go of it in 124 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: South or to Manchester, like Joy Division, who had recently 125 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 2: made themselves into New Order following the sudden death of 126 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 2: the lead singer Ian Curtis. Didn't matter that Sean and 127 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: his friends didn't own any instruments. They could steal those. 128 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: And it didn't matter that Sean could even play an instrument. 129 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:41,520 Speaker 2: His friend Bez Mark Berry he couldn't play for shit. 130 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 2: Bez couldn't write his way out of a paper bag either, 131 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 2: But Bez, like Sean, was rock and roll. 132 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 3: To his core. 133 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 2: In his autobiography Twisting My Melon, Sean Ryan wrote, Bez 134 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 2: was actually a pretty talentless set anything apart from being Bez, 135 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 2: but he was really fucking good at that. 136 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 3: Me and Bez were always rock and roll. We were 137 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 3: rock and roll long before we were in a band. 138 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:04,480 Speaker 3: It just came naturally. 139 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 2: So the musically challenged Bez would become a member of 140 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 2: the new band that Sean Ryder was creating, playing a 141 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 2: role that only Bez could play, the guy who dances 142 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,640 Speaker 2: wildly and erratically on stage while shaking the moraccas. And 143 00:08:17,680 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 2: that band, Happy Mondays, came together as naturally as rock 144 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 2: and roll came to Sean Ryder, with Shawn's brother Paul 145 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: on bass, gas, Whelan on drums, Mark Day on guitar, 146 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 2: and Paul Davis on keyboards. Happy Mondays, with Sean Ryder 147 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 2: as their unlikely lead singer, began rehearsing in an old 148 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 2: mill that doubled as the site of illegal bare knuckle 149 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 2: fighting competitions. Much later, in hindsight, Happy Mondays would be 150 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 2: praised for how they've been ahead of the curve, for 151 00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 2: how they took the acid house music soundtracking the underground 152 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 2: in Detroit and Chicago and applied it. 153 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 3: To the British post punk at the time. 154 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 2: But honestly, I don't think it was that calculated at all. 155 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 2: He had a group of guys who were unemployed and 156 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: some of whom had zero musical. 157 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: Skill, but all of whom had the attitude, with. 158 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 2: No other prospects and no goals beyond their stated goals 159 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 2: of one getting high, two getting laid, three partying all night, 160 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: and four making music inspired by a lifetime spent listening 161 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,280 Speaker 2: to everything from reggae and Northern soul to led Zeppelin 162 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 2: and James Brown. The whole affair was kind of halfway 163 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,280 Speaker 2: between survival instinct and doing something quote unquote on a lark. 164 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 2: But I don't think innovation was ever part of the 165 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 2: equation or Happy Mondays even the name Happy Mondays was, 166 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: in Sean's words, kind of a shit name, and that 167 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 2: was intentional. 168 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 3: I don't agree. I think it's an awesome mame. 169 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 2: But anyways, all of this is not to say that 170 00:09:47,559 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 2: Happy Mondays didn't have ambition, because they did, and that 171 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,959 Speaker 2: ambition soon had them pursuing the hottest spot in town. 172 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 3: This is the. 173 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 1: Legendary Hacienda nightclub in Manchester, and yes it's always this 174 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: Latin here. It was opened to nineteen eighty two by 175 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: New Order and their manager along with Tony Wilson, the 176 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: British empresario and co founder of. 177 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 3: New Orders label Factory Records. 178 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: The Hacienda was modeled after dance Atteryria in New York City. 179 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 1: In addition to featuring seminal performances from Manchester bands like 180 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: The Smiths, The Stone Roses and Oasis, the Hacienda was 181 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: also ground zero for house music in the UK, with 182 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 1: DJs spinning wax from Chicago, Miami and Detroit. The Hacienda 183 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: was totally home grown, just like Factory Records. In fact, 184 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: when he started Factory, Tony Wilson established the record label 185 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: as the antithesis of your standard label. The artists owned 186 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: the music. The label owned nothing, they say. Tony Wilson 187 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: wrote that down in his own blood on a napkin 188 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 1: or some rather than drop evil corporate contracts with his band. 189 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 3: Fucking crazy, I know. 190 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: Anyway, Happy Mondays knew they wanted to leverage their own 191 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: homegrown appeal to be a factory band, and they also 192 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: knew that their way to factory was through the hacienda. 193 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: So they slipped their demo to someone who is friends 194 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: with one. 195 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:25,480 Speaker 3: Of the club's DJ's up there in the booth. 196 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: And that guy, the one with the headphone, that guy 197 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: you see it right it that's Mike Pickery. 198 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,599 Speaker 3: He DJ nude naked. 199 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: Totally buck ass naked on Friday nights, get your head 200 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: out of the gun, or not nude in that way, 201 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: it was just a night, a. 202 00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 3: Dance night called nude. Anyway, the DJ Pickering He. 203 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 4: Passed the tape along to Tony Wilson, and faster than 204 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 4: the bpm of some acid house single on Hauss he 205 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 4: had a turntable. Happy Mondays were soon on their way 206 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 4: to making their first Hobum. 207 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: Squirrel in g Man twenty four hour party. People, plastic face, 208 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 2: can't smile, white out. That was what Happy Monday's called 209 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 2: their nineteen eighty seven debut album on Factory Records. It 210 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: was a title as cryptic and inside jokey as many 211 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:15,960 Speaker 2: of Sean's lyrics that were on That album was produced 212 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 2: by John Klee of Velvet Underground, and the record was 213 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 2: a more jangly danceable take on joy division post punk 214 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 2: meets post funk. It also established Sewan's inclination to steal 215 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 2: not only physical things, but melodies as well. 216 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 3: Future pressings of the album would. 217 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: Not include the song Desmond, which sounded way too familiar 218 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 2: to the Beatles' Obla Dee Obla Da. It would earn 219 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 2: them a cease and desist letter from an attorney representing 220 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: Michael Jackson. 221 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 3: Who owned the Beatles catalog at the time. 222 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: But if this album riffed on the recent and distant 223 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 2: past alike, nothing about it could have predicted the future. 224 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 2: Happy Mondays were about to become not only the soundtrack 225 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: to the scene that was emerging at the Hacienda, they 226 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 2: would become that scene's in house drug dealers and its 227 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: resident crooks as well. Because Sean Ryder may have now 228 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 2: become the lead singer of a band, but that did not. 229 00:13:11,800 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 3: Mean that he was no longer a thief. 230 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 2: The druggiest bands in music history seemed to defy the odds. 231 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 2: Take the Rolling Stones, for example, Brian Jones was an 232 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 2: early casualty, but his notorious band mate Keith Richards was 233 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 2: a longtime user and amuser turned survivor. What's the Dennis 234 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 2: Leary line about Keith Richards. He's done all the drugs 235 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 2: in the world, so now the rest of us have 236 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 2: to wait and smoke his ashes when he dies. 237 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:01,200 Speaker 3: Something like that. 238 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,679 Speaker 2: In the nineteen eighties, Happy Mondays were barely known outside 239 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: of Manchester and they were. 240 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: Already defining the odds. 241 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 2: According to Sean Ryder, by the time they visited New 242 00:14:12,000 --> 00:14:14,199 Speaker 2: York City for the first time in nineteen eighty seven, 243 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: they were dropping acid on a daily basis. 244 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 3: But acid wasn't. 245 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 2: The only drug that interested them. They were self proclaimed 246 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 2: garbage heads, and a garbage head did any and all 247 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 2: illicit substances that were put in front of them. So 248 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: when they landed at JFK Airport in nineteen eighty seven, 249 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: shortly after the release of their debut album, what they 250 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 2: wanted in front of them wasn't the Statue of Liberty 251 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 2: or Central Park or CBGB or any other tourist trap 252 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 2: destination of note. 253 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 5: They wanted to go immediately to Harlem, where they could 254 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 5: procure the drug that was currently all the rage in America, 255 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 5: crack cocaine. 256 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,320 Speaker 1: The driver would only take them so far. The car 257 00:14:58,400 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: came to. 258 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 3: A stop and Bez got out. 259 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 2: They traveled the remaining distance on foot. The dealer was 260 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 2: waiting as advertised, and the crack was cheap thirty forty 261 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 2: American dollars for a fistful. They returned to their hotel 262 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 2: room at the Hotel Chelsea, where nine years prior, the 263 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 2: blade of Sid Vicius's knife or someone's knife found its 264 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 2: way into the abdomen of Sid's girlfriend, Nancy Sponging. Now 265 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 2: being garbage heads and being defiers of the odds, I'm 266 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 2: like Nancy and I'm like Sid. 267 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 3: God rest their souls. 268 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: Sean and Bez wanted more crack as soon as they 269 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,080 Speaker 2: smoked it, so it was back out onto the mean 270 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 2: streets of Fierce City. 271 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:42,760 Speaker 1: This time, however, they were on their own. 272 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 3: There was no one to drive them. 273 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 2: High on crack and taking swigs from forty ounce bottles 274 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: of malt liquor, they stumbled around from corner to corner 275 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: and they came to a spot that looked familiar. In fact, 276 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,000 Speaker 2: they were in a completely different neighborhood than before. Standing 277 00:15:58,040 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 2: before them was a different dealer, but that didn't matter. 278 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 2: This guy had the crack and they had the cash, 279 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,240 Speaker 2: and so the deal went down. And that's when they 280 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 2: heard a voice from behind them. 281 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 3: Hey you hey. 282 00:16:12,440 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 2: Six teenage boys emerged confidently from the shadows. Sean and 283 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:18,359 Speaker 2: Bez were surrounded. 284 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 3: The lead kid doing the talking. 285 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 2: Was bug eyed, as bug eyed as Bez was when 286 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 2: he was on stage, dancing like a lunatic with his moroccas. 287 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 2: But this kid wasn't holding maraccas. He was holding a pistol, 288 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: and Bez frantically said. 289 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 3: Something to try to break the ice. He was fucked 290 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 3: up and drunk. 291 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: He basically spat his words at the kid with a gun, 292 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:41,480 Speaker 1: and this pissed the kid off. 293 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 3: No one likes to be spit on, even. 294 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: By accident, so the kid raised his gun and Sean 295 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: and Bez were both panicking. 296 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 3: Now. 297 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: Sean gripped the forty outs tightly and did the math 298 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: and his crack app of brain to figure out where 299 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: and how hard to swing the bottle. 300 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 3: At this kid's head. Thankfully he didn't have to. 301 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: The dealer was suddenly back making the piece, telling everyone 302 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 2: to chill out. The standoff was bad for business. Soon 303 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:08,479 Speaker 2: Sean and Bez were back to the safety of their 304 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 2: room at the Chelsea, and shortly thereafter back on a 305 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: plane home to Manchester where they sought out another drug 306 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 2: baby yet to try, but this one wouldn't nearly end 307 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 2: their lives. This one they changed their lives. In nineteen 308 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 2: eighty eight, Happy Mondays recorded new songs with Factory Records 309 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 2: of Steam producer Martin Hannett. In the album that came 310 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 2: out of those sessions, Bombed, was released on Factory in 311 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 2: November of that year. It was a major step forward 312 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 2: for the band. The Happy Mondays were no longer replicating 313 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 2: their influences. They were now using those influences to create 314 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 2: a new sound. Bombed was an early example of what 315 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,959 Speaker 2: would become known as the baggy sound, which is to 316 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:56,359 Speaker 2: say indie dance music characterized by an intoxicating mixture of 317 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: psychedelia and acid house. And if their label mates knew 318 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 2: Order were tight as a metronome, Happy Mondays were the opposite. 319 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 2: They were as loose as those clothes that people were 320 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,000 Speaker 2: now wearing while dancing to this so called baggy sound. 321 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 2: Bummed in particular, was heavily influenced by the American house 322 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: music being spawn regularly at the Hacienda nightclub, as well 323 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 2: as the music of talking heads, pornographic magazines, porno music 324 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,640 Speaker 2: from Amsterdam, and crime films, and specifically the nineteen seventy 325 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 2: film Performance starring Mick Jagger. But most of all, the 326 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 2: new album was influenced by the drug ecstasy. Ecstasy, or 327 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,920 Speaker 2: E as it was known, found its way into Manchester 328 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 2: via Amsterdam. Happy Mondays were not only the first ones 329 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 2: in town to do this drug, they were also the. 330 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 3: Ones dealing it at the Hacienda. 331 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 2: And if you partied at the Hacienda club back around 332 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 2: nineteen eighty seven or eighty eight and someone slipped you 333 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: some ecstasy, that someone was most likely Sean Ryder or 334 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 2: Bez or another member of the Happy Monday's small army 335 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:03,400 Speaker 2: of dealers, and the Happy Mondays were fiends per E. 336 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: They ate it around the clock, and they sold it 337 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 2: for twenty five pounds of pop. And when money got tight, 338 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: Sean stole copies of his own band's records from the 339 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 2: Factory Record label offices and sold them to local stores 340 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 2: and used the money to buy more ecstasy. I don't 341 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:23,200 Speaker 2: think it's hyperbolic to say this, but without Happy Mondays 342 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 2: acting as Manchester's unofficial ecstasy supply, the sweaty, baggy era 343 00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:30,639 Speaker 2: defining scene at the heart of the Hacienda would not 344 00:19:30,680 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 2: have been the same, plain and simple, even if some 345 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 2: of their contemporaries, like New Orders Peter Hook regarded them 346 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: as shifty eyed street punks who would just as soon 347 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 2: steal from your wallet as it would get you high. 348 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 2: And Peter Hook wasn't wrong, That's exactly what they were. 349 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 2: The confluence of psychedelic rave music with the Happy Monday's 350 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 2: NonStop supply of ecstasy was clutch, and the Happy Mondays 351 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 2: were so crucial to this whole thing that when the 352 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: Hacienda shut down at two in the morning every night, 353 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 2: Sean Ryd would return home to his flat only to 354 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,879 Speaker 2: find a line of people at his door stretching around 355 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 2: the block waiting to buy more ecstasy. Eventually, Sewn Ryder 356 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 2: had assembled a crew of twelve people to move the 357 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 2: drug in the club and keep Manchester rolling. And when 358 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,439 Speaker 2: the cops got wind of what he was doing and 359 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 2: tried to crack down because club owners had complained about 360 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 2: the drop in alcohol sales, because people who were high 361 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 2: on ecstasy only drank water nut booz. Seawan Ryder kept rolling, 362 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: kept dealing, kept slinging that ecstasy. Even when a sixteen 363 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 2: year old girl named Claire Layton collapsed on the floor 364 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 2: at the Hacienda and died because of a rare reaction 365 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 2: to the drug. None of this dampened attendance at the Hacienda, 366 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:46,719 Speaker 2: nor did news of Seawan riders bus on the Island 367 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: of Jersey. 368 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 3: When customs found cocaine in his luggage. 369 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: It was all part of an outlaw culture that was 370 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:57,639 Speaker 1: growing in and around Manchester, an outlaw culture than in 371 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 1: the fall of. 372 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 2: Nineteen eighty nine was fine given a name with the 373 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 2: release of their Madchester ravon EP. Happy Mondays unwittingly coined 374 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,639 Speaker 2: the Madchester term, though no one in that scene at 375 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 2: that time ever called it that. The Madchester EP contained 376 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 2: the excellent track Hallelujah, which became the Monday's biggest hit 377 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 2: to date, cracking the top twenty in the UK and 378 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 2: landing them in appearance on Top of the Pops where 379 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:27,480 Speaker 2: Sean Ryder had watched David Bowie perform all those years ago. 380 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 2: Soon the group was no longer playing smaller venues like 381 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 2: the Hacienda. By nineteen ninety, Happy Mondays were performing to 382 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 2: sold out crowds at Wembley Arena and even headlining the 383 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 2: Glastonbury Festival, all of which coincided was Sean Ryder's first 384 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:50,080 Speaker 2: foray into Herod. Sean Ryder, Bez and the entire Manchester 385 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 2: movement was high as fuck and about to get even higher. 386 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 3: We'll be right back after this. 387 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 2: We're, we're, we're. 388 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,479 Speaker 3: There was always a scheme. 389 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 2: There was the pub hoping scheme that was a pre 390 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: fame scheme, one that took place during the eight mile 391 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 2: walk Sean. 392 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: And Bez made from their place to the Hacienda. 393 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 2: Every day, they would stop at pubs along the route, 394 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 2: and inside each pub they'd locate a single woman nursing 395 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 2: or drink. 396 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 3: Bez would then talk. 397 00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 2: Her ear off while Sean rooted around in her purse 398 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: and took whatever cash he could find. And there was 399 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,919 Speaker 2: the Kidnapped Donovan's scheme that was a post fame scheme 400 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 2: that was done because well, I don't know what to 401 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 2: tell you. Sean Ryder and the guy's in Happy Mondays 402 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 2: just really loved Donovan and wanted to, in their words, 403 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:53,119 Speaker 2: capture him and take him to the Hacienda party. This 404 00:22:53,160 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 2: is how it went down. The tour manager pokes his 405 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 2: head into Donovan's dressing room and the tour manager says, 406 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,520 Speaker 2: excuse me, Donovan, there's some guys from Manchester who just 407 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 2: watched your show and they wanted me to tell you. 408 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 2: They're waiting for you out back with a van. 409 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 3: A van. 410 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 1: Donovan asked, what is it that they want. The tour 411 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:16,800 Speaker 1: manager explains that. 412 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 2: They'd like to capture you and take you to the 413 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:25,080 Speaker 2: Hacienda nightclub in Manchester. Capture the tour manager says, well, 414 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 2: that was the word they used. Yes, Donovan wants to 415 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: know why, so the tour manager explains they didn't give 416 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,880 Speaker 2: a reason. Good lord, Donovan says, is there another way 417 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 2: out of this place? 418 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 3: Okay? 419 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 2: So that scheme didn't go quite as planned. The Happy 420 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 2: Mondays were not able to successfully kidnap Donovan. They did 421 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 2: name a song after him, though, and obviously their failure 422 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 2: to learn aging folk star and to their van did 423 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 2: not dampen their spirits, because they soon rebounded with their 424 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: epic Glastonbury scheme. 425 00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:58,360 Speaker 3: And this is. 426 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 2: Actually a multi layered scheme which handsomely demonstrates just how dangerous, reckless, 427 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 2: and transgressive Happy Mondays had become by nineteen ninety. Now, 428 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 2: first you got to remember, for a van like Happy Mondays, 429 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 2: Glastonbury was a huge deal. 430 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 3: Seventy thousand people. 431 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,400 Speaker 1: It was the biggest show of their career to date. 432 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 2: So naturally, Happy Mondays wanted their friends there with them 433 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 2: to celebrate, so they requested over two hundred complimentary passes 434 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 2: for friends from Manchester. But even that wasn't enough, so 435 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 2: they packed a computer printer along with all of their 436 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 2: instruments and all their drug paraphernalia, and then they used 437 00:24:34,440 --> 00:24:39,280 Speaker 2: that printer to print out extra complimentary passes on site. 438 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 2: We're talking like another thousand passes. Many of the holders 439 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 2: of these passes were like Happy Mondays themselves, living completely 440 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 2: outside the law. So when they got to Glastonbury, they 441 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 2: did what criminals do. They robbed tents on site, they 442 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 2: sold drugs, They shook down vendors to collect some bogus 443 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 2: tax as though they were mafia members, which I guess 444 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 2: in a way they kind of were. But this whole thing, 445 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 2: all this activity it would directly result in a record 446 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: two hundred and thirty five arrests at Glastonbury, fifty thousand 447 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 2: pounds in damages, and to Glastonbury getting canceled the following year. 448 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: Let me say that again, Happy Mondays were the reason 449 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 2: that there was no Glastonbury Festival in nineteen ninety one, 450 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 2: and when it did return in nineteen ninety two, a 451 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: ten foot fence had been built around the entire festival site. 452 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 3: Thank you, Happy Mondays. 453 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 2: But back to nineteen ninety The next part of Happy 454 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 2: Monday's multi layered Glastonbury scheme was selling counterfeit merchandise. 455 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 3: Yes, in addition to selling. 456 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 2: Shirts at official merch stations on the festival grounds, the 457 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: Happy Mondays had their people out there slinging bootleg goods 458 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 2: as well. One of their promoters, this guy they called 459 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 2: John the Phone, was in charge of the bootleg merch money. 460 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 3: He kept it stash safely out of sight. 461 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 2: A biker crew caught wind of this buried treasure and 462 00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 2: they kidnapped John the Phone to find out where the 463 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 2: money was hidden. 464 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 3: They took John to a dilapidated farmhouse. They tied John. 465 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 2: Up and they tried to beat it out of him, 466 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 2: but John the Phone wasn't talking. John the Phone held 467 00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 2: the line all weekend long. Sean Ryder was unaware of 468 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 2: John the Phone's dire situation because Sean Ryder spent the 469 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,880 Speaker 2: majority of the Glastonbury weekend lying in the luggage compartment 470 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 2: of the Happy Monday's tour bus smoking heroin. He had 471 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 2: started using the drug back when he got a brutal 472 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 2: sunburn at a gig in Spain. The pain was unbearable, 473 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 2: so someone suggested he smoke some heroin and now here. 474 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:40,040 Speaker 2: He was a so called garbage head, an indiscriminate drug 475 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 2: user who does everything yet gets addicted to nothing, slowly 476 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 2: but surely getting addicted to heroin. Sean Ryder was using 477 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:52,199 Speaker 2: dope when Happy Monday's made their next record, Pills and 478 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 2: Thrills and Belly Aches, with English DJ Paul Oakenfold producing 479 00:26:56,680 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: with songs like Kinky Afro, Bob's Your Uncle and Step 480 00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 2: Up on. The album was Happy Monday's most assured and 481 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: musically rich to date. It was also their first to 482 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 2: feature backing vocals by new member Rowetta, who brought a 483 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:16,200 Speaker 2: classic soul vibe that perfectly complimented Shawn's untrained Everyman Vocal Cadence. 484 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 2: The album peaked at number four on the UK Album Chart, 485 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: where it was certified platinum. In the United States, it 486 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 2: broke into the top one hundred of the Billboard Album Chart. 487 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 2: The Happy Monday's decision to work with Oakenfold would reportedly 488 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 2: inspire U two to incorporate electronic music into Octang Baby 489 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: the following year, and likewise for Blur to work with 490 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: electronic producer William Orbit for their album. Thirteen Pills and 491 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,679 Speaker 2: Thrills and Belly Aches was released on Factory Records in 492 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 2: November of nineteen ninety, and with it the legend of 493 00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 2: Happy Monday's those chaotic thugs who literally shut down Glastonbury 494 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 2: was exploding. 495 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 3: This meant an appearance. 496 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 2: On MTV in which Sean Ryd joke that he used 497 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 2: to make money working as a male prostitute. It was 498 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 2: typical rock and roll fuckery, but the British tabloid News 499 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,640 Speaker 2: of the World ran with it as if it were 500 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 2: actually true. Sean was so pissed off that he showed 501 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 2: up to a Manchester bar wielding a three fifty seven magnet. 502 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 2: His intention had been to shoot a hole in the 503 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,879 Speaker 2: roof in order to fully demonstrate his anger. Instead, a 504 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,879 Speaker 2: cooler had prevailed and he simply smashed a mirror with 505 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 2: a bottle instead. The violent outburst only made what should 506 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,399 Speaker 2: have been a celebratory time more tense. Sean's brother Paul, 507 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 2: along with the other guys in the band, were finding 508 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 2: it difficult to enjoy their newfound success because the press 509 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 2: only cared about Sean and Bez. In fact, their guitarist, 510 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,600 Speaker 2: Mark Day, was ready to quit altogether. Factory Records, meanwhile, 511 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 2: a label built on idealism rather than capitalism, was hemorrhaging money, 512 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 2: as was the Hacienda, the club that Factory had a 513 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 2: stake in. Too much cash wasted on drugs and frivolous 514 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 2: things like the infamous boardroom table that was suspended from 515 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 2: the ceiling of Factory's offices, and because of this, Factory 516 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 2: desperately needed Happy Mondays to record their next album as 517 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 2: soon as possible in order to leverage the group's current 518 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 2: success and help keep the whole operation aflow. 519 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 3: But there was the little issue of Seawan's heroin habit. 520 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 2: One concern was that the album would never get made 521 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 2: if he wasn't moved far away from where he could 522 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 2: score that particular drug, and this is why a plan 523 00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 2: was put into motion for Happy Mondays to travel to Barbados, 524 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: where they would record their fourth album at Blue Wave, 525 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 2: a studio owned by Eddie Grant from The Equals Eddie Grant, 526 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,000 Speaker 2: the guy with the Electric Avenue Hit, Chris Franz, and 527 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 2: Tina Weymouth from Talking Heads. They were going to produce 528 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 2: the Happy Monday's next record at Eddie Grant's place. In 529 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 2: the group's outgoing guitar player, Mark Day would be replaced 530 00:29:54,440 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 2: by Johnny Marr from The Smiths. The smith This had 531 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 2: been broken up for about four years. When Johnny Marr 532 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 2: walked into Seawan Ryder's flat, he found himself face to 533 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 2: face not just with Sean, but with Happy Monday's manager 534 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 2: and the rest of the group as well, minus the 535 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 2: guitarist Mark Day. Johnny Marr quickly learned he was there 536 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 2: to be coerced into traveling to Barbados, where he would 537 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 2: perform on The Monday's new album in place of Mark Wait, 538 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 2: did I say coerced? 539 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 3: Actually the word Johnny used when. 540 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 2: Talking about this was kidnapped, just like Donovan, because in 541 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 2: addition to everyone standing in front of him making demands 542 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 2: behind him, flanking the single exit out of Sean Ryders' 543 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 2: flat were two very capable, very qualified, very large men, 544 00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:49,400 Speaker 2: and no doubt, from Johnny Marr's estimation, their one job 545 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: was to not let him leave until he agreed to 546 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 2: go to Barbados. Johnny had to admit that Barbados sounded 547 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 2: like a good time. But Barbados with Happy Mondays the 548 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:03,959 Speaker 2: most transgressive rock and roll band on the planet at 549 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 2: the moment, would they even get out alive? 550 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 3: It didn't matter. 551 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 2: Because Johnny's wife was about to give birth to their 552 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 2: first child any day now, and he wasn't going anywhere. 553 00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 2: But Sean Ryder dug in in the moment Johnny's wife 554 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 2: went into labor, he said they'd put Johnny on the 555 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 2: first plane back to Manchester. In Sean's eyes, it really 556 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 2: was that simple. Life really was that uncomplicated. You wanted something, 557 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 2: you took it. You wanted money, drugs. 558 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: You wanted Donovan to go party with you at the hacienda, 559 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: you wanted Johnny Mar to become your guitar player. 560 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 3: You just made it happen. 561 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 2: But Johnny Marr wasn't going anywhere besides Mark Day, their 562 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 2: original guitarist would quickly return to the fold, perhaps feeling 563 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 2: threatened by the whole getting replaced by Johnny Marrthing so 564 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 2: Happy Mondays were soon on a plane without Johnny, en 565 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 2: route to Barbados, where they'd find no heroin, but where 566 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:05,080 Speaker 2: they would find plenty of crack cocaine, as well as 567 00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 2: the beginning of the end a truly mad era. From 568 00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 2: the start Happy Mondays Factory Records, the Hacienda Madchester. It 569 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 2: was all supposed to be big fun, even if Tony 570 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 2: Wilson would tell you that there was at one time 571 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 2: a larger goal of musical revolution with an impact that 572 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 2: rivaled punk rock or hip hop for those on the 573 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,920 Speaker 2: front lines. However, like Sean Ryder, fun was the endgame. 574 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 2: The more hedonistic and debauched the better. Just earlier this 575 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 2: year twenty twenty six, in an interview with The Guardian, 576 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 2: Sean Ryder said, quote, my thought process when we started 577 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 2: The Mondays was I want to be in a band, 578 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 2: I want to shag birds, I want to travel around 579 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 2: the world, I want to party all night, and I 580 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,080 Speaker 2: want to take drugs. 581 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 3: Unquote. 582 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 2: It's fair to say that he accomplished what he set 583 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 2: out to do, and he was really good at it, 584 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 2: just like Bez was really good at being Bez. But 585 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 2: on January seventeenth, nineteen ninety two, when a plane carrying 586 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 2: Sean and the rest of Happy Mondays landed in Barbados 587 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 2: to begin sessions for their fourth studio album, Fun, was 588 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 2: at a premium. Everything was work, everything was maximum effort. 589 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 2: The bliss out baggy grooves that were the Monday's bread 590 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 2: and butter refused to flow forth. Sean was too busy 591 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 2: jonesing for a fix to focus on their music, and 592 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 2: Bez's lack of musical talent disinterested the album's producers, Chris 593 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 2: Franz and Tina Weymouth, so. 594 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 3: Sean and Bez struck out on their own. They scoured 595 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,080 Speaker 3: the island for drugs. 596 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 2: First they found weed, Then they found crack, and since 597 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,120 Speaker 2: they required copious quantities of this stuff, the money quickly 598 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,359 Speaker 2: ran out. Buying drugs now became as much work as 599 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 2: coming up with new songs. They traded Armani jeans and 600 00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,160 Speaker 2: Hugo Boss shirts for crack. They rented multiple cars on 601 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 2: factories dime just so they could remove the batteries and 602 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 2: trade those for crack, And while the rest of the 603 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 2: band labored away with Chris and Tina and Eddie Grant's studio. 604 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,280 Speaker 2: Sean and Bez slipped outside to Eddie Grant's pool, stole 605 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 2: a plastic sunludger, carried it down to the street and 606 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 2: traded it for crack. Sean even lied to Tony Wilson 607 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 2: and said he was going to burn the master tapes 608 00:34:38,719 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 2: from the sessions thus far if Tony didn't wire the money. 609 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 2: The money Tony sent was for the band members per deems, 610 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 2: as well as some of Chris and Tina's producing fees. 611 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 2: But according to Sean, it was Chris and Tina's idea 612 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:54,120 Speaker 2: to shake down Tony in the first place. They were 613 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:56,919 Speaker 2: worried about getting paid at all. Knowing what they knew 614 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 2: about Factory's financial troubles. It was of a big secret 615 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 2: that they were all here of Barbados on some doomed 616 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,520 Speaker 2: Hail Mary mission to save the record label and the club. 617 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,319 Speaker 2: The very fate of Factory could well rest on how 618 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 2: good this Happy Monday's album turned out to be and 619 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 2: how it performed commercially. The writing was on the wall, 620 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 2: but someone has impaired, as Sean Ryder at the time 621 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 2: simply couldn't read what the writing said his girlfriend found 622 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 2: him on the floor of his flat and burnage, lying 623 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 2: in a pool of his own blood with an axe 624 00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:37,720 Speaker 2: in his head. The papers called it an axe type hammer, 625 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 2: a plasterer's hammer, which had been forcefully thrust into his 626 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 2: head five times. 627 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 3: Details aside, the fact. 628 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 2: Remained thirty four year old Dave Robotham, Manchester musician, Factory 629 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 2: Records artist, member of the Dirty Column and longtime friend 630 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 2: of Happy Mondays, was dead. Like Sean Ryder, Dave Robotham 631 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 2: had been using hair on the Brown, as Sean would say, 632 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,840 Speaker 2: a darker drug originating from some of the darker elements 633 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:10,240 Speaker 2: lurking in and around Manchester. This was becoming increasingly hard 634 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 2: to avoid. The darkness was taking over. Gangsters were now 635 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 2: running the Hacienda, Knives and guns had replaced ecstasy on 636 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 2: the dance floor, and Factory had extended their credits so 637 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 2: far that they couldn't even afford to press any new singles. 638 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 2: Whoever murdered Dave managed to slip back under the cover 639 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,319 Speaker 2: of that darkness. His killer was never found and the 640 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 2: case remains unsolved to this day. But the memory of Dave, 641 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 2: in the memory of that dark time, was quickly immortalized 642 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,920 Speaker 2: in the song Cowboy Dave, the final track on Happy 643 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 2: Monday's fourth studio album. 644 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:45,720 Speaker 3: Yes Please. 645 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 2: This was the album they tried to make in Barbados. 646 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 2: The Mondays had returned from the island after five largely 647 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 2: unproductive weeks with only one finished song. Upon their return, 648 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 2: Sean checked into you Have he stayed clean long enough 649 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,879 Speaker 2: to finish the album at a studio and Sorry. Yes 650 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 2: Please was released in September of nineteen ninety two to 651 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:15,400 Speaker 2: poor reviews. Just two months later, Factory declared bankruptcy. And 652 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 2: the funny thing is that had Tony Wilson not done 653 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 2: things the way he had, had the label own the 654 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,400 Speaker 2: music rather than the artists, Factory could have been saved 655 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 2: at the last minute in an acquisition by another label, 656 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:32,880 Speaker 2: another label like London Records, But that's another story. In 657 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 2: this story, Sean Ryder relapses one night. He drinks a 658 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 2: bottle of vodka and then decides it's time to go 659 00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 2: score some junk again, and he winds up crashing his car, 660 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 2: and since he's not wearing a seat belt, he's sent 661 00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:45,880 Speaker 2: flying through the windshield. 662 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:47,759 Speaker 3: He flees the scene, but. 663 00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: His car's license plate fell off in the crash. So 664 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: the cops are led right. 665 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,960 Speaker 2: Back to his home. In this story Happy Monday's breakup. 666 00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 2: Just weeks after Factory goes under, Sean Ryder forms a 667 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 2: new band, and Black Great, which breaks up at the 668 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,840 Speaker 2: end of the nineties, paving the way for Happy Mondays 669 00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:08,800 Speaker 2: to reform with a slightly altered lineup. In this story, 670 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,400 Speaker 2: the Darkness at the end of the Manchester Era, it 671 00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:16,280 Speaker 2: never really goes away. In twenty ten, Bez is sentenced 672 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,920 Speaker 2: to four weeks in jail for assaulting an ex girlfriend, 673 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,800 Speaker 2: and in twenty twenty five, Rowetta, the Monday's longtime backing vocalists, 674 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,600 Speaker 2: takes to social media to accuse Sean Ryder of punching 675 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 2: her on a ferry back in the year two thousand. 676 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 2: It was in the year two thousand that Sean Ryder 677 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 2: was honored by the new musical express magazine The Enemy 678 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:41,040 Speaker 2: with one of its Godlike Genius Awards. And it was 679 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 2: at this awards ceremony that Sean Ryder ran into one 680 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 2: of the first people he ever stole from musically, that 681 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 2: is Paul McCartney, author of Obla Dee, Obla Da, the 682 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 2: song that Sean and crib from for the Happy Monday 683 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 2: song Desmond, which had to be removed from their debut album. 684 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 2: Cartney stood next to Sean as the cameras flashed a 685 00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 2: picture of the unlikely duo would grace the upcoming issue 686 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:10,680 Speaker 2: of NME. There was irony here, and it wasn't just 687 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,480 Speaker 2: about the stolen song. There was the added irony that Sean, 688 00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:17,239 Speaker 2: who was born the year the Beatles released their first 689 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,560 Speaker 2: single yet who remained at this time a heroin user, 690 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:26,279 Speaker 2: actually looked older and more haggard than Paul McCartney. And 691 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,160 Speaker 2: I think it's fair to say, as Paul McCartney or 692 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,319 Speaker 2: a Sean Ryder or any true rock and roller will 693 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 2: tell you, there's a fine line between godlike genius and disgrace. 694 00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 2: I'm Jaith Brennan and this this disgrace sad. All right, guys, 695 00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,719 Speaker 2: thanks for checking out this episode of Disgrace land on 696 00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 2: how mondays. The rockstar antics herein are just completely over 697 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 2: the line. Total debauchery, total hedonism. With that said, question 698 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:13,560 Speaker 2: of the week this week, what's the most rockstar you've 699 00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 2: ever been? 700 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 3: What's the most rockstar activity you've ever taken part in 701 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:20,919 Speaker 3: that you're that you want to share? 702 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know something, Maybe you got in trouble 703 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 2: with I don't know something. Maybe you got away with 704 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 2: six one seven nine oh six sixty six three eight 705 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 2: When did you act like a rockstar? 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