1 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 1: Fresh episode of Fish Bites. It's Eli Sussman, Fish Stripes 2 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: managing editor, addressing you as the Miami Marlins are flying 3 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 1: into Philadelphia to get their twenty twenty MLB regular season underway. 4 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: I wasn't sure whether baseball would get here in the 5 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: first place. Who knows if we'll be able to get 6 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,919 Speaker 1: to the finish line. But every day recently it has 7 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: been that little step forward that brings a sense of relief. 8 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: A lots of analyze and lots of debate with regards 9 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: to the Marlins, and that's kept our days busy. It's 10 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:57,639 Speaker 1: kept our minds racing, and there's a lots of breakdown. 11 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: To help me do that properly. We have former Fish 12 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: Stripe staffer, a good friend, most popular fish by toast 13 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: we've ever had, and definitely one of the world's leading 14 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: experts on all things Marlins. It's Danny Martinez. Are you 15 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:12,800 Speaker 1: ready to play ball? 16 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: I am ready to play ball. That's one heck of 17 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: an introduction that I have to live up to. But 18 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: it's definitely definitely nice to be back here with you, Eli, 19 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,960 Speaker 2: And just like I said, have a conversation with you 20 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 2: and then also play ball and let's talk from Fish Baseball. 21 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: We still get people on the main website who aren't 22 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: on Twitter that are constantly asking about you and when 23 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: you get your takes on things, and I tell them, 24 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: you know, just find you on Twitter. You're still there 25 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 1: and you're still like staying on top of absolutely everything, 26 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 1: and you're a great person to bounce ideas off of. 27 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: And we're I guess for transparency, we're checking in right now, 28 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 1: right before the second exhibition game in Atlanta. By the 29 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: time people will listen to this, the game will be 30 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: over and the team will be in Philly, and I guess, 31 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: just off the top, just a general feeling that you 32 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: yet actually watching this team on TV for the first 33 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: time in what four and a half months. I think 34 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 1: I speak for both of us that from being like 35 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: on Twitter during the game yesterday, the kind of conversations 36 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: and the kind of engagement on there, in the intensity 37 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:17,320 Speaker 1: of emotions, the swing of emotions during that game for 38 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: a game that's in couent, that was that kind of 39 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 1: exceeded my expectations. 40 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 2: Agreed, there was a lot of passion on the timeline 41 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 2: yesterday for an exhibition game, and I think part of 42 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: that right elized that people are just starving for sports 43 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 2: and starving for baseball in general. But it's still the 44 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 2: Marlins and it's still an exhibition game. For people to 45 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 2: be as excited as they were, you know, inning one 46 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 2: through seven, and then as angry as they were in 47 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 2: that one inning with Conley, it shows you again that 48 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 2: there is some foundation of a fan base here that's 49 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 2: interested in baseball and that the organization just has to 50 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 2: give them something to be passionate about. So it was great. 51 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 2: It was great to have live baseball, and it was 52 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 2: great to see the fan base excited. 53 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 1: And I mean there's only so much we could take 54 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: away from these exhibition games themselves, of course, because they 55 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 1: don't count. You know, it's the same approach you would 56 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: take for a spring training game, although it feels a 57 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: little bit more relevant because we're so close to the 58 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: regular season. It has been a pretty good preview of 59 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 1: the players that will actually be on the opening day 60 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: roster and have certain roles. And what we've seen with 61 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: these two games is what seemed to be a pretty 62 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: top to bottom good preview of what the opening day 63 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: lineup is going to look like. And they were slightly 64 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 1: different lineups for the first game versus the second game. 65 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: Before we get into that, it was only a couple 66 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: of days prior to that that you mentioned an ideal 67 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: opening day lineup from your perspective, what you think would 68 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: have been the best way for the team to approach 69 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: the season, And that's what I wanted to go through 70 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: with you an opportunity to weigh in on a lot 71 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: of different players. I'm just gonna read it for the 72 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 1: people that didn't see it when you post it. Originally 73 00:03:57,280 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: your ideal opening day lineup from a few days ago. 74 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: So had Jonathan Vr leading off, is the Dhson Diaz 75 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: batting second and playing second, Brian Anderson at third, playing third, 76 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: Corey Dickerson and left cases, Aggie lar at first base, 77 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: Jorge al Farrow at catcher, Cooper or Harold Ramirez in 78 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: right field, Miguel Rojas at shortstop in Monte Harrison in 79 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: center field that ninth and so we know at this 80 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: point that that's probably not going to happen at the 81 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: very start of the year. But as we go through that, 82 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: i'd like to get your takes on why you feel 83 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: so strongly about that alignment. And I guess the VR 84 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: in the leadoff spot is one that pretty much everybody 85 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: agrees on and understands based on his track record, especially 86 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: what he did last year. But starting I guess with 87 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: someone like Diez, we saw his rookie year before that, 88 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: we saw his amazing year at Triple A, and then 89 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: after getting called up and seeing a lot of regression 90 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 1: from that. But why would you feel it's the most 91 00:04:57,680 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: appropriate to have him like when you're the top of 92 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: the lineup from the very beginning of this year. 93 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 2: So Ison hitting in the second hole is obviously the 94 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 2: most controversial thing about this lineup, right aside from Monte 95 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 2: and you know, we could talk about service time and 96 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: whether this Israelistic in six days or whatever the case is. 97 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: Isan hitting second is the one that would never allow 98 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 2: this lineup to actually happen coming out of Donnie Baseball, 99 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: And my reasoning for it is also controversial. I know, 100 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,720 Speaker 2: I don't have a lot of supporters when it comes 101 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 2: to two elements of lineup construction. One, I guess I'm 102 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: a little traditionalist in the sense that I do believe 103 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 2: it matters who's hitting in front and behind you. I 104 00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: do believe just the psyche of a picture how they're 105 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 2: going to attack you. The risk reward is the better 106 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 2: way of saying it. Of how they're going to attack 107 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 2: you changes depending if you have Brian Anderson behind you 108 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: versus if you have, with no disrespect to anybody else, 109 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: I'm Miguel Rojas behind your Magneren Sierra. I will not 110 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 2: buy regardless of the data that the picture feels the 111 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,599 Speaker 2: same way. So that's the first controversial part and why 112 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: I have he's with a little bit more protection in 113 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: the lineup. And then the second one is where I 114 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 2: guess I'm not a traditionalist. So the traditionalists would say 115 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: the prospect needs to earn their way up the top 116 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: of the order. The prospect needs to be hitting eight 117 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 2: or ninth or seventh and then earn their way. I 118 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:20,359 Speaker 2: also disagree with that. I think you place the prospect 119 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 2: where you're going to ideally place them in their prime 120 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,040 Speaker 2: or right before their primer, where they're going to hold 121 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 2: most value, and then you allow some sink or swim. 122 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: Basically the opposite of what eventually ended up happening with 123 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:36,880 Speaker 2: lollis Bringston. So that's where I placed the san and 124 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: that's why I placed them in the two holes. 125 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: Here's san Diaz and he's done it again. 126 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 3: You're a fly ball well, hit right there, that'll clear 127 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 3: the ball. 128 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 4: Dea says Homer now. 129 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 3: Consecutive games, and as you reference, pretty much all these 130 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 3: other picks are pretty defense, pretty standard, and pretty similar 131 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 3: to what we imagine is going to be at opening day. 132 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: Obviously with Brian Anderson what he showed last year, the 133 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: track record that Dickerson and Aguilar have, and then al 134 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: far of being the primary catcher and Rojas eighth the 135 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: other one that doesn't seem like it's going to go 136 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 1: through with the Marlins insisting that well now stating that 137 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: Monte is not going to be on the opening day 138 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 1: ross here, but I think a lot of us were 139 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: surprised that he wasn't included there, and even if he was, 140 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: it was a little unclear exactly what his playing time 141 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: status was going to be even if he was on 142 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: the active roster. But I'm wondering how at what level 143 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: is your dissatisfaction with that decision on a scale of 144 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: one to ten, with one being you understand to respect 145 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 1: the process and his fit will come later in the year, 146 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: to ten being outraged, where are you in terms of 147 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 1: agreeing or disfiguring with how the Marlins handled that. 148 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: Yes, so the answer to that is going to include 149 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 2: a blind spot, because I had a true blind spot 150 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 2: on how long his service time was needed when I 151 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 2: put out this ideal lineup. I can be honest, I 152 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: had not considered that only six days were left to 153 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: get a whole nother year of control. So quite frankly, 154 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 2: you're not going to get like the revolutionists harah anger here, 155 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 2: because now that I understand it's six days, I'm not 156 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 2: sure my anger is even like at a two or 157 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 2: a three. Now that's different than my anger with the system. 158 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: I think that the service time manipulation needs to be 159 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: fixed at a systemic level. I think that Baseball has 160 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 2: to do better at giving a little bit more power 161 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 2: to the player. But oh mind rebuilding year three. If 162 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 2: it's only going to cost you six days for a 163 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 2: whole year, I'm not sure that I could validate, even 164 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 2: with not liking the system, the Marlins doing that, especially 165 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: when we talk about the competition, they're not exactly the Dodgers. 166 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 2: They're not exactly really competing in higherly this year. So 167 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 2: I would place it at I would paste that at 168 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 2: a two or three if I'm being honest, and I 169 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,560 Speaker 2: know I'll get heat there. But I can't give up 170 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 2: a whole year of Monte and the value that comes 171 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: with that for just big days. Do you feel like. 172 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: You personally are are ready to play every day in 173 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: the big leagues right now? Maybe I can ask. 174 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 4: It like that one hundred percent. Ie, I've prepared myself mentally, 175 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 4: infaisically to be in the big league. Watch the other people. 176 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 4: Want to experience this with other people that's been in 177 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 4: the big leagues. Uh, just watching and learning. I think 178 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 4: I'm ready for the big leagues. I actually I don't 179 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 4: think I'm ready. I know I'm ready. 180 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: Well, this is where I push back on you a 181 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: little bit because while my intensity is it's quite a 182 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: bit higher in that area. Not not at the ten, 183 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: but pretty high. You know, seven to eight is uh, 184 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 1: well one because of Monte's age, then the fact that 185 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: he's about to turn twenty five years old. So the 186 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: service sign they're trying to do is ready in his 187 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: early thirties. And I mean players we do see some 188 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: of the best player in their game in their early thirties. 189 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 1: Most are not. Though it is possible to already be 190 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: declining by that age, It's possible that extra year will 191 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: not be as valuable in his case, as it would 192 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: be with a lot of conventional top prospects. I guess 193 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: my bigger area of disagreement is that, of course, the 194 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: active roster in this new setup for twenty twenty is 195 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 1: larger at the start of the season than it is 196 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 1: later on. They have thirty spots right now, and they 197 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:27,720 Speaker 1: don't have a minor league system set up either, So 198 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:31,200 Speaker 1: with him not being on the major league roster, the 199 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: development that he's going to get outside of playing in 200 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: the majors is going to be pretty minimal. I mean, 201 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: he's going to be around their other top prospects in Jupiter. 202 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: But the concerns that maddingly cited for example, or that 203 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: we just didn't have a role for him to play 204 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,880 Speaker 1: every single day, yeah, well there are really no other 205 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: opportunities for him to play every single day in real 206 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: competition without minor league baseball going on, and that lack 207 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: of having that viable alternative hang up for me. But 208 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: more so the fact that you don't have to start 209 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: someone in the minor leagues in order to prevent them 210 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: from getting a full year of service. 211 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 2: Right it could have. 212 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,200 Speaker 1: Been a situation where he impressed during summer camp. They 213 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: do have some outfield depth questions with Lewis Brinton and 214 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: Matt Joyce expected to be on the il to start 215 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: the year, that there was some playing time available. Despite 216 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: how Mattingly tried to phrase it, he would have been 217 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: playing inconsistently, but he would have been playing somewhat and 218 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 1: the roster is going to be smaller later in the year. 219 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: It's only a couple weeks into the season that they 220 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 1: downsized from thirty spots to twenty eight. So if Monte 221 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: unfortunately were to get off to a really slow start 222 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: at the plate where he's striking out half of his 223 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: plate appearances and it's clear that something needs to be 224 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: fine tuned, if not mechanically then just psychologically. And if 225 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: he is actually hurting the team in a year where 226 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: you're hoping they can flirt with being a competitive team 227 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 1: out of the shoot, it's simple to just send him down. 228 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: Once roster sizes shrink. They shrank a couple spots after 229 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: two weeks, a couple more spots after the first month 230 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: of the year. It'd be so easy to option him 231 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 1: at that point, and it serves the same purpose of 232 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: adding more service time while also you know, helping the team. 233 00:12:18,360 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: So that's a lot of disorganized points I brought up there, 234 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,240 Speaker 1: But I hope you see where I'm getting at. Where 235 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: they for someone that there was so much positive attention 236 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 1: around him at this point due to his performance and 237 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: due to the way that he impacts his teammates and 238 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: coaches in intangible ways that it's I mean, it's not 239 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 1: only a big pr hit for them to leave him 240 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: off at this point of the year, but I feel 241 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 1: it wasn't totally necessary if you see where I'm coming from, 242 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: that they could have had him on and made a 243 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: tough decision later on. 244 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think it was an organized points at all. 245 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: It was good points. I think I kind of laughed, 246 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 2: not at your point. I laughed when down he says, 247 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 2: oh for development or or more consistent at that same 248 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 2: way that you, without laughing, very kindly pointed it out. 249 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 2: What development are you going to get down there that 250 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: you wouldn't be able to get up here? If they 251 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 2: really do make it obvious and they call him up 252 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 2: within a week that it was about service time, What 253 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: development are you really getting in a week's time? You know, 254 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 2: Joe Pisarro came out and said, oh, what about the strike? 255 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 2: The strikeouts. You know, I don't post every strikeout. I 256 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 2: post only the home run. So that's what the fans see. 257 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 2: I don't know if there's true to that or not. 258 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: I agree with all of your points. I do, and 259 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 2: then I just simply come back for a second and 260 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 2: I say, even in a worst case scenario where then 261 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 2: this is someone that's traded later, or even in a 262 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 2: worst case scenario when we are looking into a different window, 263 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 2: I'm not sure the six days is worth it. But 264 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 2: that's where your counter comes into play. If he earned it, 265 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 2: and I wasn't there, I didn't see all of his 266 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 2: camp in person. Of course, if he earned it, he 267 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: could be there, and if he struggles, you'd still be 268 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 2: able to keep that year. So that's a good point. 269 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,079 Speaker 2: That's a good point. Eli. I'm not sure what they 270 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 2: say behind closed doors. I just I'm not believing that 271 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 2: it's about development or even that it's about the cave. 272 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 2: I just think it's about that extra year. 273 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, either way, it's highly highly likely that we 274 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: do see him at some point during the season. And now, 275 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 1: just to do a quick contrast between, of course, your 276 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: idea lineup and the one that the Marlins have actually 277 00:14:22,720 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: put out there the first game against the Braves, it 278 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: was in order VR, Anderson, Dickerson, Aguilar, Cooper, Harold, Esan, 279 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: Alfaro and Rojas. And now as we're heading into the 280 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: second exhibition game, they've made a slightly surprising mix up 281 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: to that where it's still VR at the top, but 282 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: then Aguilar batting seconds, Dickerson, Harold batting clean up, then 283 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,479 Speaker 1: Brian Anderson, Eson, Alfarow, Rojas, and Birdie. 284 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: So they put. 285 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: Birdie in center fields and have VR dhing. Do you 286 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: feel strongly way about that where the second line up 287 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: is playing Bertie in place of Cooper and also getting 288 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: Bertie's defense in place of VRS, whereas the first night 289 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 1: it was having both Cooper and v are in there 290 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,200 Speaker 1: having Birdie available off the bench. Of those two, If 291 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: you were to make an educated guess about which of 292 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: those we actually see on Friday against Affilies, you think 293 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: it's the Cooper lineup or the Birdie lineup. 294 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 2: I think it's the Cooper lineup. I think that the 295 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: first lineup we saw against the Braves in the first 296 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 2: game is going to mirror what we see on Friday, 297 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 2: and likely that that core of that lineup is going 298 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 2: to be the most consistent throughout the year, at least 299 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 2: consistently used one wrinkle that I think is important here. 300 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 2: And actually I'll get to that wrinkle in a second. 301 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 2: I'll say something about Bertie. Bertie's like the lost person 302 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 2: in most fans do not include him in their lineup projection. 303 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: I know I don't. I fail to do that. I 304 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: think he's going to have more of an intricerate part 305 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 2: in this year than most fans realize. But to get 306 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 2: to my wrinkle, I think, and I'm sure that Donnie 307 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 2: would be like, no, Danny, That's not what I did 308 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 2: at all. But I think it's curious that he met 309 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 2: he messed it and mixed it up for the second game. 310 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 2: And I wonder if it's just because some of the 311 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: younger prospects are going to be playing a little bit 312 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 2: longer in this game. Like I wouldn't be entirely surprised 313 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 2: if some of the position players are out and then 314 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 2: we see Leywan Diaz come in, or again a Monte 315 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: come in or whomever the case might be, into that spot. 316 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 2: Now that is me overthinking things. I'm sure the Marlins 317 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 2: didn't actually do that, but it's one of the first 318 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 2: things that I thought of when I saw, like, hmm, 319 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 2: I would like to see leywan zi Is at first 320 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 2: base but hitting in the two hole. It would be 321 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,960 Speaker 2: interesting to see Monte sack up X, Y and Z. 322 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: So I don't know what the fun is behind you 323 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: are batting second and switching it up. 324 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: But if I was a. 325 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 2: Betting man, I would say what we really saw was 326 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 2: last night's game be the real dress rehearsal for how 327 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 2: Donnie's gonna print out that exchange of cards that I 328 00:16:59,480 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: guess doesn't have happening with COVID, but basically that's the 329 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:03,240 Speaker 2: line up I think I'm going with. 330 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: Agreed, totally agreed with you on that. As we're it's 331 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: gonna be tomorrow slightly after we put out this pod, 332 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: there's gonna be an article on the site about a 333 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,040 Speaker 1: roundtable discussion with me and some of the other guys 334 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: at Fish Stripes, just answering a couple of general questions 335 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: about the season the Marlins in relation to other teams, 336 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: as well as key individuals on the team itself. So 337 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna have you an honorary entry into that roundtable 338 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: and audio only entry into that. We're gonna go through 339 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: the same sort of questions that I have in that article, 340 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: and we're gonna have you go through them here. Most 341 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: I told I told all the guys to get their 342 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: answers very brief and don't overthink it. And so I 343 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: give you the same prompt you know, don't don't try 344 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: to overthink it too much. But a couple of questions 345 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 1: that we really I don't think I spent too much 346 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: time on just generally and speaking to the audience, speaking 347 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: to the fan base over the past few months. I 348 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 1: feel like these are still important questions, the ones that 349 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: we haven't necessarily given quite enough focus on when looking 350 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: around the division with the Braves, the Mets, the Nationals, 351 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 1: and the Phillies, I mean understanding that we're not following 352 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: their daily summer camp updates as much as other people 353 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,359 Speaker 1: of those teams. Could you put them in like a 354 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: little power rankings for me? Which of those teams do 355 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,159 Speaker 1: you think is best built to actually be a legit 356 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: World Series contenter this year versus the ones that you 357 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: could actually see the Marlins surpassing and actually leapfrog potentially 358 00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: at the bottom of the division. Who's who are you 359 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,200 Speaker 1: most afraid of in that situation? 360 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 2: I have a clear bottom, and I have a clear top, 361 00:18:42,119 --> 00:18:44,439 Speaker 2: so I'll start with the clear bottom. I'm not afraid 362 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: of the metas I understand that the Mets have one 363 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 2: of the strongest lineups they've had in a while. The 364 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 2: losing sore and that rotation just doesn't impose any fear 365 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: on me. I could totally eat my words. The Mets 366 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 2: are the team that will have a miracle year, and 367 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: their often will carry them, but I would have them 368 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: for and if the Marlins actually do better than we're expecting, 369 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 2: possibly even fifth, then it's between the Phillies and the 370 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 2: Mats for me, which tells you that I'm going to 371 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 2: have the Braves up top. I think the Braves are 372 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 2: the first place, are the class of this division. They 373 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 2: are the rebuild that we have modeled ourselves after, and 374 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 2: they are the most balanced teams. They have the offensive pop, 375 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 2: they have on base strength, and they have a solid 376 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 2: staff that I think, in a sprint over sixty games 377 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 2: will lead them to first. So I say Atlanta at first, 378 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 2: some toss up between the Phillies and the Nats, second, third, 379 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 2: and then the Mets either in fourth or in fifth. 380 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: All right, all right, Like I said, don't overthink it 381 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: that much. I think that that makes a lot of 382 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 1: sense based on what we know now and of course 383 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: understanding how unpredictable things can change based on what COVID 384 00:19:58,960 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: decides to do when this city situation, but the next up. 385 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 1: Looking inside the Marlins organization, we know that Monte won't 386 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: be on the opening day roster, but he's next up. 387 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: And we've seen some other interesting pitching prospects get a 388 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: lot of usage during summer camp and even brought along 389 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:19,399 Speaker 1: to the exhibition games in Atlanta. When the season is 390 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 1: said and done, which Marlin's rookie do you think is 391 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: going to have the biggest impact on this season? It 392 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:28,680 Speaker 1: could be, you know, a conventional prospect, or it could 393 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: be like last year, or they get spinky contributions from 394 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: like John Burley and Harold Ramirez. But which individual player 395 00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: are you most optimistic about getting a lot of playing 396 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 1: time and being pretty successful right out of the gate. 397 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 2: I would love laywindia Is to be the answer, but 398 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 2: I actually believe we are in line for a Hayesu's 399 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 2: agiar resurrection which will keep Laywan at bay. So I 400 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 2: would like Leaywan Das to be the answer, but I 401 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 2: don't think it would be the obvious answer for me 402 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 2: is going to be Monte. I think Monte gets called 403 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 2: up relatively early in the season and we're gonna see 404 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 2: We're gonna see the pop from him, We're going to 405 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 2: see the speed from him, We're going to see the 406 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 2: solid glove from him if he makes enough contact. That's 407 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 2: an easy choice for me. I'm gonna flip it around 408 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 2: and say, Alex Vessia. I think he is going to 409 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 2: make his debut this year, maybe even early enough, although 410 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 2: I'm not sure that they'll start him off right away, 411 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 2: But when he does, I think we're going to see 412 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 2: a lefty that knows how to control the strike zone, 413 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: has overpowering stuff to put people away, has enough control 414 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 2: to harness it, and just seems like it's a fun 415 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 2: decision or a fun choice to go bullpen, especially when 416 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 2: we have all the massive prospects that we think are 417 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 2: coming up. So I'm going to go with my guy 418 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 2: Alex as the rookie that really makes a statement this 419 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 2: year for the Fish. 420 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: I feel very guilty about Vessia because it was when 421 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: he was heading on the plane from Miami to Atlanta. 422 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: I just send him a quick message to saying good luck, 423 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: enjoy it this season. Congrats on making this and first 424 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,440 Speaker 1: game in Atlanta. Of course, he gives up the walk 425 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: off home run, and it's the first one that he's 426 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: allowed in any appearance in any professional game in a 427 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 1: full year. He had that scoreless streak that they did 428 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:15,560 Speaker 1: all the way back to the middle of last summer. 429 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: And like the one time where I just send him 430 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,439 Speaker 1: some words of encouragement, he ends up, you know, being 431 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: the goat in this situation and actually, you know, allowing 432 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: the Braves to come all the way back. It was 433 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: just that one swing, you know. Otherwise his outing was fine, 434 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,359 Speaker 1: and people that watched the game know that it was 435 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: other relievers that were guilty of it. But so as 436 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: long as he can bounce back from that, and I'm 437 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 1: sure he can that, I think that's a pretty good choice. 438 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: And he's someone that doesn't necessarily jump off the page 439 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 1: in terms of his his raw tools, but just the 440 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:48,360 Speaker 1: performance that he's had, the way that he pitches work 441 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,880 Speaker 1: off of one another, and the work ethic he has. Yeah, 442 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: he's he profiles pretty well as being that back of 443 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: the ends of a bullpun guy moving up the experienced ladder. 444 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: We're just going to focus on Marlin's players that were 445 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: in the major leagues last year returning Marlins players from 446 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. You've already mentioned Isan, We talked about him 447 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,719 Speaker 1: briefly early on. He would count in this category just 448 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: any of the guys that have returned from last year. 449 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: Who is your ticket? Do you think that will be 450 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 1: the most improved player on this team among guys that 451 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: we already saw last year. 452 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to go with Alfaro. I think that 453 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 2: the James Rolson effect here, the you know, the do 454 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 2: damage to be aggressive, fits really nicely with the pop 455 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:36,120 Speaker 2: and quite frankly with what seems to be his mindset 456 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,120 Speaker 2: at the plate of Alfaro. I'm not going to pretend 457 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 2: to know what Alfro and Ralson have spoken about or 458 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 2: have been trying to develop in their private, you know, 459 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 2: meetings and training, but I would imagine that if there's 460 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 2: someone who can truly truly take a next step, specifically 461 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 2: because of Ralston and his ability to get in a 462 00:23:58,040 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 2: player's head or in a hitter's head and develop a 463 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 2: game plan together, it's gonna be Alfie behind behind the plate. 464 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 2: So that's that's definitely my choice. With the understanding that 465 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,640 Speaker 2: you would be a sexy choice to pick here as well, 466 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 2: but it's gonna go without borrow. 467 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: I believe I'm the only one when this article comes 468 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,760 Speaker 1: out that went with Pablo Lopez, considering last year was 469 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: kind of a step back from him from his rookie season, 470 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 1: but being fully healthy right now, he's adding a cutter 471 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: to his pitch mix and understanding that he was somewhat 472 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: unlucky with the results that he got last year. That's 473 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: gonna be my guy. That's my guy. 474 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 2: That that's a good one. 475 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:32,720 Speaker 5: That's a good one. 476 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: I mean, frankly, he was mediocre in his appearances last year, 477 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: but I think people that were paying close attention to 478 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,359 Speaker 1: know a lot of that was that one disaster game, 479 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: that one disaster ending I think against Mets where they 480 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: left him in and I pounded and pounded and said 481 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: a lot of time to rethink things, to reharness his 482 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: building and to actually make some tangible adjustments. So I 483 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: look forward to seeing him in what he could do 484 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: this year. You al, really there's a little bit of 485 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 1: over right here because you recently appeared on one of 486 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 1: our favorite pods, Fish Across the Ponds, and you finish 487 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: up that episode by making a record prediction for the 488 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: Marlins this year. But I know you, Danny, and I 489 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: know that you can be as we get close to 490 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 1: this season, that optimism keeps building and building and building 491 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: inside of you. You told Fish across the ponds, you 492 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: told Peter that most likely Marlin's record prediction from you 493 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: would be like twenty six and thirty four, twenty seven 494 00:25:32,040 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: and thirty three. Are you a couple of days later, 495 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 1: are you still standing by that as most likely record 496 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,119 Speaker 1: prediction or do you have a slight change to that? 497 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:45,639 Speaker 2: So you know me? Well, okay, you know my optimism 498 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,399 Speaker 2: radar gets a little bit higher as we get closer, 499 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 2: But no, I'm still sicking to it. I think I 500 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,960 Speaker 2: think the strength of schedule is just too much going 501 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,960 Speaker 2: against the AL East and the NL East. It's just 502 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 2: too much. And again this will be a little overlap, 503 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,840 Speaker 2: but it's worth noting. I also truly do believe that 504 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 2: with the roster that has been constructed for this year, 505 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 2: with the Dickerson and the Aggyar and the added gays 506 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 2: in the VR, I really do believe if you gave 507 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 2: us a different strength of schedule, which of course is 508 00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 2: on realistic in COVID times, I would be much more 509 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 2: optimistic of saying five hundred or better baseball. It's a 510 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 2: competent roster. I truly believe that. But no level of 511 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 2: Danny optimism is going to take me away from the 512 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 2: fact that we are going up against the Rays and 513 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 2: the Yankees and the entire na least and yes, the 514 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 2: depleted Boston Red Sox. But it's still I believe you're 515 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 2: the worst or the second worst strength of schedule in baseball. 516 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 2: So I'm sticking with my twenty seven or twenty six wins, 517 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 2: and I will be very happy for anything that goes 518 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,879 Speaker 2: above that, and quite frankly, if it's significantly below that, 519 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 2: then go give me one of those stud pictures in 520 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: the draft next year and I'll be happy there too. 521 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 2: But yep, gonna stick with twenty six and twenty seven 522 00:26:58,280 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 2: on this money line. 523 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 1: Well, what is going to be my quick follow up 524 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: to this? Is there any scenario where you would find 525 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: yourself disappointed with what happens that season? Seeing that the 526 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,440 Speaker 1: downside to it, You know, if they are a terrible team, 527 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: hurt by inexperience, hurt by their strength of schedule, that 528 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,239 Speaker 1: they get one of those aforementioned high draft picks this 529 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,879 Speaker 1: coming year that that'd be a nice consolation prize to 530 00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: get from that. Is there any scenario that you would 531 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: consider this season of failure? Is there anything that would happen? 532 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,800 Speaker 1: Is there any on the field. Let's just stick with 533 00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: all the field, because we obviously can't control anything, any scandal, 534 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,639 Speaker 1: any controversy, We can't anticipate that off the field. But 535 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: is there any situation that would leave you disappointed with 536 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: this Marlin season that you can think of? 537 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:49,159 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're still year three of a rebuilt right, this 538 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 2: is still the time where you're supposed to be turning 539 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,399 Speaker 2: a corner. And to turn a corner, you need to 540 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:56,959 Speaker 2: be able to have your prospect and your younger talent 541 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 2: begin to develop. Just is what it is. Twenty twenty 542 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 2: one should be at least the beginning of kind of 543 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 2: like cracking that open window of a competitive window. That 544 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 2: doesn't happen, or you don't have confidence going into twenty 545 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 2: twenty one if we do not see some developmental growth 546 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 2: of Aneath Sandias, if we do not see some plateau 547 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,919 Speaker 2: or growth of a sandy out contra or of the 548 00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 2: Pablo Lopez and the rest of the young talent that 549 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 2: we've seen in a sixty game season. Anything can happen 550 00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 2: in a sixty game season. Win loss record is very variable. 551 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 2: But what shouldn't be forgiven is if our prospect in 552 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 2: our young talent does not continue to develop. If not, 553 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 2: then you're asking Sherman to open up the wallet. If not, 554 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 2: you're looking elsewhere. If not, some of those trades begins 555 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 2: to look poorly done instead of just adequate or better. 556 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 2: So my answer is absolutely there's a failure to this year, 557 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 2: and it starts with the young talent if they don't 558 00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 2: develop the way we should. In year three of a rebold. 559 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,920 Speaker 1: We're with Danny Martinez here on fish bites and we're 560 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 1: gonna get him out of here pretty soon. A couple 561 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,960 Speaker 1: more topics we're going to go through here. A couple 562 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: of days prior to opening Day for the Marlins, wanted 563 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: to do some transaction analysis, and there's been a lot 564 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 1: to analyze because the Marlins have made so many moves, 565 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: almost a complete turnover, both at the major league level 566 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 1: and with so much other farm system over the last 567 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 1: couple of years. I wanted to start off by getting 568 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,840 Speaker 1: what you think, what is, in your opinion, the most 569 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: successful move of any kind that you feel they have 570 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,920 Speaker 1: made since new ownership took over after the twenty twenty 571 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: seventeen season, A move that has yielded some major league results, 572 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: one that you see as being a great value in 573 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: terms of what they gave up. Like, what do you 574 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: point to so far that really gives you confidence about 575 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: this front office's ability to win to when whether it's 576 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 1: trades or really efficient signings. I guess you don't have 577 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: to pick exactly one, but what do you think has 578 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: worked out the most so far? Specific examples of what 579 00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: has worked at the most, and it gives you confidence 580 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: about the way that this team operates. 581 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,040 Speaker 2: Now, if we had to choose just one move, I 582 00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 2: actually think it's the Ozuna move. But I think it's 583 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 2: a part of the Ozuna move that I want to 584 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,720 Speaker 2: highlight here. I want to highlight the fact that, for 585 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 2: whatever reason, ironically enough, this organization might be better at finding 586 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 2: gems in trades than getting the right priority centerpiece for 587 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 2: a trade. And we see that with Dak Gallen coming 588 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 2: back in that trade. No one knew who that Gallon was. 589 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 2: Even the higher you know, fangraft type of places still 590 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 2: had questions about Zach Gallen. And now Zach Gallen has 591 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 2: obviously developed into what he developed into and then flipped 592 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 2: for what I truly do believe is a superstar feeling 593 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 2: in a jazzism which has his own doubts in his 594 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 2: own rights. But still then we see that with Nick Anderson, 595 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 2: we see that with Trevor Richards identifying these gems and 596 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: then being able to utilize that value to get a 597 00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 2: Hey Su Sanchez, to be able to even later on 598 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 2: with getting Sergioma to come in get la Win Diaz. 599 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 2: So I think it's see under the radar moves. I've 600 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 2: learned very quickly with this organization. You shouldn't just kind 601 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 2: of turn your cheek to any of the small moves 602 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 2: that you think are small, because without Nick Anderson we 603 00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 2: don't have Heyesu Sanchez precise or possibly so, I think 604 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:39,239 Speaker 2: the biggest thing here is being able to highlight and 605 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 2: scout and identify and acquire the gems. 606 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,719 Speaker 1: And on a similar note, I mean one that you 607 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,680 Speaker 1: didn't mention, but I'm sure we've talked about a lot before, 608 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: is how they were able to One of the very 609 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: first moves they made after the ownership chains was to 610 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: deal with the Yankees trading away a little known prospect 611 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: in Michael King and getting both Caleb Smith and Garrett 612 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 1: Cooper back in return into guys that were totally expendable 613 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 1: for the Yankees that were being squeezed off of their 614 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: forty man roster to the Marlins that the Yankees at 615 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: that point felt they were essentially giving away. And how 616 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,160 Speaker 1: both those guys have shown a lot of flashes of production. 617 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: I mean, there was at one point, if twenty nineteen 618 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: was only a sixty game season, Caleb Smith would have 619 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: been one of the better starters in the league. And 620 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,520 Speaker 1: there was also that same point in the middle of 621 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen season where Garrett Cooper was the hottest 622 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: hitter in the Yankees lineup. And the sample size that 623 00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: both those guys are still really small. You know, they're 624 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: both in their ret now, in their late twenties, but 625 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: when I see like those short bursts of excellence from them, 626 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,200 Speaker 1: that's something that me when when I'm analyzing players, if 627 00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:51,200 Speaker 1: you've shown like that level of high, high level performance. 628 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 5: Favorite home run this year courtesy of Garrett Cooper, who 629 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 5: sends one deep to the left center field that's gone 630 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 5: a solo hover for Garrett Cooper. 631 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:07,680 Speaker 2: His eleven. 632 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: That could be tapped into in the future, that there 633 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,280 Speaker 1: is a path to them getting even better than they 634 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: were last year when Cooper was more or less an 635 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,120 Speaker 1: average everyday player, and when Caleb of course had that 636 00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: amazing hot streak, and even when he regressed later in 637 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: the year partially due to injury, if not mostly due 638 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 1: to injury, that he was on pace to be a 639 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: solid middle of the rotation type of guy. And I 640 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: mean this comes in light of the news that Michael 641 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: King is now going to be on the Yankees opening 642 00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: day roster. He could have a long career ahead of them. 643 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: But considering where they were at that time, where they 644 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: really just needed to fill places on the depth chart 645 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,240 Speaker 1: for that twenty eighteen team and now they played much 646 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: bigger roles in twenty nineteen, both in line to play 647 00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 1: big in twenty twenty. That's when that I just couldn't 648 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: say enough praise about how they were able to identify 649 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,880 Speaker 1: those guys based on things that didn't show up. They 650 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: didn't have major league track record at the time at 651 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: all when those trades were made, and yet like turning 652 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: them into something real. And I guess the jury is 653 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: still add on that a little bit to see whether 654 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,120 Speaker 1: either of those guys still have a higher level that 655 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: they can reach. But that's one I'm super encouraged about. 656 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: On a related note, we wanted to look at guys 657 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 1: that haven't reached the major leagues yet particular moves. These 658 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: would be, I guess the super recent moves, the ones 659 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:38,040 Speaker 1: where they either gave up a substantial major league asset 660 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,240 Speaker 1: or whether it was with some of these recent draft picks. 661 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:45,360 Speaker 1: One I guess. Once again, I won't limit you to 662 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: just one particular move, but if there's one in terms 663 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:52,479 Speaker 1: of one of these recently acquired prospects that they had 664 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: that you feel most confident is going to be successful, 665 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: someone that we haven't seen at the major league level yet, 666 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: and that it doesn't necessarily have to be a guy 667 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: that will come up this year, but once that you 668 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: feel we're steel a great value that this team got 669 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: and that you're especially high. 670 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,520 Speaker 2: On the beauty of the Marlins the last year is 671 00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 2: they've added so much young and now I'm talking young 672 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 2: like teenager, young talent in the ISA, the international free 673 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 2: agency and through the draft that you and I could 674 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 2: spend a whole show on that, I'll choose one guy 675 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 2: I think Jackson Fulton is a first round talent that 676 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,320 Speaker 2: they were able to get this year, maybe some injury 677 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 2: concerns and obviously along ways away from ever pitching at 678 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 2: Marlin's Park, but that pick itself was beautiful. That pick 679 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 2: almost got me more excited and most of us more 680 00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,239 Speaker 2: excited because we didn't think that Maximi was going to 681 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 2: be the pick than Max. But that pick was fantastic. 682 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,400 Speaker 2: So I love that you and I could talk for 683 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,520 Speaker 2: an hour and a half on the draft being and 684 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 2: the international free agents. But mine is always still going 685 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 2: to be my favorite guy. Again, I spoke about it 686 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 2: with the crew from England or from the UK, but 687 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:03,520 Speaker 2: the acquisition of Diaz, I truly believe he will be 688 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 2: a cornerstone first baseman for the Marlin And you know 689 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,200 Speaker 2: where I'm what I'm gonna say next. This is the 690 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 2: guy I identified two years ago that I wanted on 691 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,919 Speaker 2: the Fish. I wanted him to be the Rule five 692 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 2: draft pick. I wanted them to acquire him in the 693 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,720 Speaker 2: off season, and then finally on my honeymoon, they acquire 694 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,880 Speaker 2: him for Sergio Romo. He is He is truly, in 695 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 2: my heart going to be a superstar at first base 696 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,800 Speaker 2: with significant pop and a good glove as well. Now 697 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 2: apparently Joe Cursorrows is they're playing him in the outfield too, 698 00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 2: so some versatility, but Laylan's going to be a guy. 699 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,400 Speaker 2: Lane's going to be a guy, and if there's one choice, 700 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 2: that's that's the choice. 701 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm totally on board with him too. Just an 702 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 1: incredible season that he had in the miners last year, 703 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 1: and as you said, you picked him out even before 704 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: this quote unquote returned to like a high level of performance. 705 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: He had that high prospect pedigree ever since he entered 706 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,600 Speaker 1: pro ball, and then his stock dipped so much in 707 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,360 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen. He had some struggles, he had some injuries, 708 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,879 Speaker 1: he had I think a season ending wrist injury that year, 709 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: and he was available for everybody. I mean, how often 710 00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: does that happen when you have a guy like this 711 00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 1: that was unprotected in his first year of Rule five 712 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: eligibility and nobody got him, and now he can end 713 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: up in this kind of situation. I hope we see 714 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: him really soon because he's it's it's a performance and 715 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: it's the work ethic as well, because a big difference Mate, 716 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: that really contributed to what he is right now as 717 00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: a player is what he did with his physique and 718 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,879 Speaker 1: how he trimmed out a lot of bad weight put 719 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 1: on a lot of good weight, and that just allowed 720 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 1: him to tap into that amazing skill that he has 721 00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,479 Speaker 1: even a little bit more. But we have a full 722 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 1: season here on deck for the Marvel full season with 723 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: the entire season. It's not a pole. We have an 724 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,440 Speaker 1: entire season of base on the entire sixty games of 725 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 1: us on deck that would have been for a while. 726 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,680 Speaker 1: And I know you're gonna be around to follow every 727 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: moment of it, and of course we're gonna be doing 728 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:12,080 Speaker 1: so here on Fish Stripes and on Friday it all 729 00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: gets started in Philadelphia. Danny. We're gonna have you back 730 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: in the future, of course, and we're gonna have our 731 00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,960 Speaker 1: correspondence pretty much every single day on Twitter, I imagine as 732 00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,680 Speaker 1: this moves forward. And thank you for coming on the pod. Brother. 733 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 2: This is great, absolutely, man, it's a pleasure, and. 734 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna have plenty of coverage coming for you this 735 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,720 Speaker 1: season as it gets going, from me and from everybody 736 00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,799 Speaker 1: else here on our Fish Stripes team. So until then, 737 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 1: keep listening, guys. Make sure you're subscribe for all the 738 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: latest episodes. Check out shows on the podcast channel not 739 00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: just me earning their stripes is still going, Marlin's Barbecue 740 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: is heating up with red Garcia and Alex Contraris, So 741 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:56,000 Speaker 1: we appreciate all the support that you guys give us, 742 00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:08,760 Speaker 1: and Marlin's Baseball is on zach Go. 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