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Speaker 1: Native Lampard is a production of iHeart Radio in partnership

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Speaker 1: with Reason Choice Media.

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Speaker 2: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, and I are delighted to be presenting the

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Speaker 3: first BAFT of the night for a vital part of

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Speaker 3: movie making.

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Speaker 4: We're here to some.

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Speaker 5: So uh we are beginning our mini pod today.

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Speaker 1: After watching the BAFT Awards last week, we saw where

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Speaker 1: a gentleman with Tourette syndrome yelled out nigger is the

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Speaker 1: word that he yelled out while del Roy Lindo and

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Speaker 1: Michael B.

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Speaker 5: Jordan were on presenting.

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Speaker 1: And what we wanted to do was ensure that we

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Speaker 1: didn't have this conversation in isolation, in a vacuum, and

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Speaker 1: so we wanted to bring on our friend New York

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Speaker 1: Public Advocate Jimani Williams, who is the only elected at

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Speaker 1: the time he was elected, the only elected official in

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Speaker 1: the country Tourette syndrome, and he's talked about this online,

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Speaker 1: but we also wanted to make sure that we bring

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Speaker 1: his thoughts to you. He told us he hadn't watched

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Speaker 1: the video, so he just showed him the video and

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Speaker 1: I'd love to get your initial reaction to that. Jimiani

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Speaker 1: also happy Black History month, So it sucks to be

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Speaker 1: called the N word Black History Month, but I do

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Speaker 1: want to hear your.

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Speaker 6: Thoughts, appreciate you Happy American History Month with the black

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Speaker 6: lands on it like it's a painful situation all the

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Speaker 6: way around. As you mentioned, I happened. You know, I've

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Speaker 6: been black a pretty long time. I've had to rest

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Speaker 6: syndrome for a long time, diagnosed in the ninth grade,

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Speaker 6: So the intersection there is interesting. I also have corpulia,

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Speaker 6: so and actually one of my tics is the N word.

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Speaker 6: Many people who may not know they're augmented, which we

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Speaker 6: can also talk about for a while. And what's frustrating

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Speaker 6: is I noticed a lot of anger and outrage, which

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Speaker 6: there should be. What I've been trying to do with

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Speaker 6: my post is make sure we put the anger in

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Speaker 6: the right spaces and the empathy in the right spaces,

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Speaker 6: and empathy has to go both ways. What was frustrating

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Speaker 6: to me is that black folks always seem to be

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Speaker 6: the ones that have to have the brunt of showing

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Speaker 6: grace and showing empathy. And there's a lot of things

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Speaker 6: that could have been done to make sure that people

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Speaker 6: weren't as harm as they were, and so it's important

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Speaker 6: for folks to understand that, you know, thered syndrome is intrusive.

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Speaker 6: It has intrusive sounds, It has intrusive thoughts, vocal sounds.

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Speaker 6: I have a tick on my shoulder. I actually will

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Speaker 6: tick where my body hurts the most, which is really painful.

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Speaker 6: So imagine that is not something I want to do.

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Speaker 6: So what happens is not about the lack of a

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Speaker 6: filter corporrella is about the most socially unacceptable words that

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Speaker 6: you're going to have a loss of control over. But

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Speaker 6: one thing that could have been done was more education

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Speaker 6: about what was going on before and after and very

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Speaker 6: simply after. And BBC could have censored it like they

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Speaker 6: centered Free Palestine. They censored some other words that you

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Speaker 6: didn't hear because there were square words. Why they didn't

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Speaker 6: censor those, I don't know. So what could have been

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Speaker 6: turned into a moment to teach people about to red

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Speaker 6: syndrome turned into a moment where everyone was harmed, including

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Speaker 6: the black folks and Daryl Lindo and Michael because and

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Speaker 6: shout out to them, they've dealt with Black people unfortunately

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Speaker 6: are forced to do, which is show poison grace in

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Speaker 6: situations where they're feeling harmed.

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Speaker 4: Can you and thank you for just telling your truth

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Speaker 4: to us and helping us understand because I come from

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Speaker 4: this place of just sheer ignorance. I mean, this is

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Speaker 4: so I hope that I know that you will, but

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Speaker 4: I hope that others give me the grace of learning

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Speaker 4: about tourets as we go. REESI talked about creating space

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Speaker 4: for having empathy. What are some of the other things

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Speaker 4: you want our listeners to know. You talk about the

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Speaker 4: involuntary tics, You talk about the words that are used,

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Speaker 4: but how is it treated? What happens? Is it a

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Speaker 6: So interestingly, I was diagnosed in the ninth grade, and

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Speaker 6: a lot still do. It's another story, but you know

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Speaker 6: I would get in trouble. My mother saw a twenty

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Speaker 6: I actually did the same. And I hope I can

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Speaker 6: I would kind of just say the enquire when I

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Speaker 6: I try to get to a space where I'm by

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Speaker 6: that they can't. So one, it's very individualized. You may

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Speaker 6: not be able to do what I just said. You

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Speaker 6: may need some behavioral therapy to be able to do

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Speaker 6: what I said. There is a cost also for suppressing

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Speaker 6: can be very harmful. So we have to think about

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Speaker 6: that as well. That doesn't change the impact of the

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Speaker 6: What we have been trained to do is not hold

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Speaker 6: so both of those things can be true. And so

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Speaker 6: it's about how do you mitigate the harm of hearing

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Speaker 6: John Davidson attempted suicide when he was younger because of

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Speaker 6: been beat up severely because of something like this, and

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Speaker 6: There's also spaces where you can remove yourself, which he

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Speaker 6: did to his credit. But also this was abafter was

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Speaker 6: I'm so honored he ran and won a seat in

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Speaker 6: Connecticut inspired by me. He saw me and then thought

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Speaker 6: that he can do it as well. That's just an

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Speaker 6: amazing It gets me emotional, but that's just awesome. He's

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Speaker 6: when he said about his sticks is he didn't have

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Speaker 6: the luxuries of black man to be able to say

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Speaker 6: there's so many intersections that are there. I just want

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Speaker 6: to make sure that every single time those things happen,

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Speaker 6: spaces where that home can be mitigated. And we tremendously

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Speaker 6: dropped the ball. Whether it's bath to a BBC, I

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Speaker 6: think that's where a lot of the outrage should go,

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Speaker 6: because they didn't curate a space that was helpful to

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Speaker 1: You know, the thing that's really frustrating too is as

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Speaker 1: a result of bath does or really BBC's failure to

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Speaker 1: even bleep out the word as you mentioned, which they

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Speaker 1: did for Free Palestine and somebody's acceptance speech and some

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Speaker 1: of the other choices they made, we were made aware

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Speaker 1: and we can put up this headline of Google having

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Speaker 5: The inWORD was used at BAFTA.

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Speaker 1: Now they have a headline Google apologizes after news Alert

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Speaker 1: used the inWORD, says it wasn't related to AI. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what it was related to, but it's not okay.

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Speaker 1: And this is again goes to your point. We're responsible

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Speaker 1: for carrying the full weight of this when the inWORD

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Speaker 1: to justify their use of it. Well, I wasn't really

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Speaker 5: That I will acknowledge, I was initially.

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Speaker 1: Really upset because I was frustrated by the apology.

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Speaker 5: So the apology was we're sorry.

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Speaker 1: There were some words used we're sorry if this offended you.

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Speaker 1: I didn't realize that John had gone on and called

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Speaker 1: Warner Brothers to reach out to Michael Coogler and Delroy

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Speaker 1: So I want to hold space for the condition, but

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that's a fact. Initially, the part I heard, also,

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Speaker 6: But when I saw the full apology, I think he

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Speaker 6: not the first time, which is why we have to

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Speaker 6: be careful when we'retributing the spaces. But that Google apology,

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Speaker 6: I don't know if that means much like an apology

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Speaker 6: And I don't know that Google has done that every

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Speaker 6: point in time with this whole thing. What has been

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Speaker 6: with no information. That's a problem, and that's the part

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Speaker 6: where I think people should continue to be angry about,

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Speaker 6: because this is not the first, second, third, and sadly

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Speaker 6: have intentionality. What I'm hoping at minimum is there's some

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Speaker 6: education about to rest syndrome and to figure out, you know,

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Speaker 6: how you have empathy both ways, because it cannot be

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Speaker 6: just that I say the N word. That's it now

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Speaker 6: that there has to be and everybody's responsible for, you know,

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Speaker 6: the spaces we create. So it's about educating and it's

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Speaker 6: about mitigating as much as possible. From what I heard,

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Speaker 6: I think the folks around him did not, and that's a.

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Speaker 7: Problem, advocate.

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Speaker 2: I know we're coming up on time for you, but

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Speaker 6: That's not something he wants to do in that space.

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Speaker 4: Taught me a lot, my gous. I appreciate you. I

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Speaker 5: Thanks your money. We'll see you soon.

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Speaker 4: Welcome Peak, Thank you, thank welcome home.

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Speaker 1: That's and I think that's the part too, Like I

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Speaker 1: They made a and I think that that really is

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that you know, people always want

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Speaker 3: oh wait a minute, Oh wait a second, let's let's

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Speaker 3: let's talk about this. Why did this happen? Yeah, well,

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Speaker 3: well maybe it wasn't what it looks. That's gonna happen

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Speaker 3: who has said that, we can't talk about racism solely

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Speaker 7: We have to talk about impact. We have to talk

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Speaker 3: Being ablest as well, even if that's not your intent,

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Speaker 7: In my fear is that there will be backlash.

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Speaker 3: Because if we're not, you know, take it on the chin,

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Speaker 3: Well, I don't know so much Michael be Jordan if

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Speaker 7: Then they become the bad guys.

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Speaker 3: Then the person who was harmed becomes the villain, and

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Speaker 7: It's not every time I get on them. Call one time.

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Speaker 3: We're two black men, we're on stage at a word

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Speaker 3: I'm challenging myself. Tell me if that's ablest to say

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Speaker 3: And John Davidson himself, to his credit, you know, his

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Speaker 3: get what I'm saying. I don't think that that's fair

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Speaker 3: to minimize him, just like it's unfair to say well,

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Speaker 3: That was a big moment for him as well. But

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 4: I just want to just think Jamie again, because I've

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Speaker 4: But it's also verally really good to have good people

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Speaker 1: I love y'all, Nickels, Pennies and dimes. I love y'all

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Speaker 1: so much. All right, Regin, can I just say that's

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Speaker 4: I was?

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Speaker 3: Can I just say one more thing, though? I challenge,

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Speaker 3: And you know what, the other part of DEI is

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Speaker 3: And so part of I think to the frustration that

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Speaker 3: become disability champions. So I welcome all of the disability

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Speaker 4: at the Bakari and his name.

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Speaker 5: Oh my God, can we crack this out? You cannot

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Speaker 4: I love You'll welcome home next time.

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Speaker 5: Starcissism my God.

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