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Speaker 1: rebooted Dona, Right, they did reboot it. But the thing like,

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Speaker 1: Like they're not doing real camp now. I guess Riverdale

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Speaker 1: it's bad. Actually it needs to be bad and it

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Speaker 1: is like Santag's definition of camp, and she doesn't define

420
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 1: that word for everyone. That's her. That's her interpretation of

421
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,159
Speaker 1: what and what she says that it like it changes

422
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 1: with the times and that it's yeah, it needs to

423
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: be contextualized whenever. But we were talking. We we had

424
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,320
Speaker 1: an episode with Betty Gilpen and we discussed this for

425
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: a little bit, which is like, um, you know, like

426
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,399
Speaker 1: the met Gallet takes itself so seriously that nothing it

427
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 1: ever do can be camp, even if it calls itself camp.

428
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,920
Speaker 1: It's like, because it takes itself so seriously and we're

429
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,640
Speaker 1: gonna watch it with a critical it's not so they're

430
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,320
Speaker 1: getting photographed and it's like, how camp be am I

431
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: gonna be? Because I really don't want my you know,

432
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,520
Speaker 1: I want to look just so Yeah, I don't want

433
00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 1: to be like camping it up so much that everybody's like,

434
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: what is wrong with her mind? Totally well with Lena

435
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: as she was wearing a tight silk bag of flower

436
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: and like like elbow length gloves and just being like

437
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 1: like that was kind of funny. It's like very the

438
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 1: intention was all there. And what about Jared Leto, Yeah,

439
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: I liked that sort of like that can't be, can't

440
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,360
Speaker 1: be anyway. But I thought holding her own head as

441
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: you go into the met gartlet was camp. I wish

442
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,239
Speaker 1: it had been a puppet m could have his finger up.

443
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: But something we've all thought about with Jared Lito and

444
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: I'll be the first to say it. I'll be the

445
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 1: first to say It'll be the first second. He actually

446
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 1: is someone who I believe is so hot that he

447
00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: couldn't do it for me. He could take my head

448
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: and slam it into a wall. Yeah, I think he's

449
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:53,439
Speaker 1: so hot. Jared Lee, though you know, I'm I agree

450
00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 1: with you. You know, there was a point, probably when

451
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: I was younger, that I'd be like, oh no, no, no,

452
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 1: no no, but now, oh honey, anything anything below forty'll do?

453
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: I get that for me? For me, it's like I

454
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: don't know. Well, you know, he also has like a

455
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,400
Speaker 1: like a big big They say he has a big, big, big, big,

456
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: big penis and that you can see it often in photos.

457
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: And I'll talk about this apparently it's apparently it's like

458
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 1: a damn elephants trunk. If you look at pictures of

459
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 1: this stuff, you'll be very surprised to see how large

460
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:36,199
Speaker 1: that is. And um, he's the ranks among well. So

461
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,239
Speaker 1: once there's a there's a couple of photos that are like,

462
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:40,680
Speaker 1: look at these photos where you can tell that Jared

463
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,959
Speaker 1: Leto has a big cock, and it's like, I'm like

464
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: a human being. So I'll just like like yes on that,

465
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: and then I'll look at all the photos and I'm like, look,

466
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,119
Speaker 1: these photos would suggest he has a large penis. Also,

467
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 1: the fact of the matter is there's those John Ham

468
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,400
Speaker 1: photos too, right, thing is swinging around and it's like

469
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: at this point, when you're in your florities, you know

470
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 1: about your penis and if it's large, you know, so

471
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 1: you wear underwear to like sport. You get the support,

472
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 1: you get the shape where you pull it off. You

473
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 1: know you don't unless, of course, you know it's that bad.

474
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: It's like, you know, well, I almost said if I

475
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: have a big dick, that's hilarious what I do. But anyway,

476
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: I would just let it probably swing to Yeah, I

477
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: would love the publicity. And it's it's that these people.

478
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:31,880
Speaker 1: It's that Jared and John aren't wearing their underwear. I

479
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 1: feel that they are letting a fly disrespect. No, no,

480
00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: it's not. I actually have fine with it. But I'm

481
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: always mortified when like someone says, like, um, like I

482
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 1: did a show recently and someone said, people people are

483
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: comment I'm sorry, really quickly. I want to speak on

484
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: your behalf. I'm sorry, but people keep commenting on social

485
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: media on Matt's moose knuckle, and it's got to stop.

486
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: Moose knuckle. There you go. I have um is that

487
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: like I wear tight pants? Let me see so up? Okay, alright, alright,

488
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: now pull him up. Oh my god, James, Oh no,

489
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: you don't have it unlets you pull it up. Well yeah,

490
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,480
Speaker 1: but the thing is like, right now, I'm wearing boxer

491
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: briefs and I've actually recently switched over to regular briefs.

492
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 1: Are you is it a kay that we're talking about this? Yeah, okay,

493
00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: I just want to be I just have no restrictions.

494
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 1: But but I did a show recently and for us, Yeah,

495
00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 1: you know what I watched the other day. Jared had

496
00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: never seen Bruno. So you ever seen Bruno? Is Sasha

497
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 1: Barren Cohen. No, it's it's like you would really like it.

498
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 1: He it's like Sasha. You've seen Borat? Oh God, come on,

499
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: James Anders. James is truly he doesn't He's not beholden

500
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: to any other Okay, so there's it's literally it's Sash.

501
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: He plays like a German um German fashion. Yeah, and

502
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,240
Speaker 1: so he like there's a scene where he is he

503
00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: has put together a TV pilot and um, they're like

504
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: a focus group and these people have no idea what

505
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,479
Speaker 1: they're going to see, their real people and it's just

506
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 1: him swinging and then and then the cop points to

507
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: the screen and then this is why you'd like it. Funny.

508
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: It's so funny. And then they go into say, Okay,

509
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: what did you guys think of that? And it's real

510
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: people and they're like, worst piece of crap I've ever

511
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 1: seen that person's obviously very sick and like it's just

512
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: so dick centric. And then he goes in and there

513
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: like mortified. Anyway, we had to turn it off because

514
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 1: Jared was like, I can't watch this anymore comfortable. I

515
00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: was so funny and no. Instead we watched The House

516
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: Funny and he thought it was so funny when she goes,

517
00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 1: um here introduced yourself to me? When when she says

518
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 1: the names I am Bowen. Yeah, yeah, it's her waynemonic device.

519
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:51,880
Speaker 1: Remember watching him discover that was so funny. I was like,

520
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: you didn't you don't see you've never seen this funny

521
00:29:55,200 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: with Anna Faris's very funny saying you know, but James

522
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: is up on the gay culture. Remember the first thing

523
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: we did the night we did meet you, we talked

524
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:12,160
Speaker 1: all we just talked about the dragons and we were like, girl, yes,

525
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 1: come on, have you been watching it? You have watch

526
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: every I watch every season and you know I have

527
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 1: season was weak. You can say, can I say it?

528
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: You can say that, um, well, you and I want

529
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 1: it as weak as some of the weaker seasons. You

530
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 1: and I would show up to work and I'd be like,

531
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: I just didn't watch. Um, I still sort of was

532
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,479
Speaker 1: there for it. Yeah, I mean I'm trying to be

533
00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: there for you know. There. I love it. I love it.

534
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 1: You can really Oh my god, what I almost okay,

535
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,400
Speaker 1: forget it. Almost I almost called, oh my god, I

536
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: can't even think her name has slipped my mind. Oh

537
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: my god, Okay, forget it. No, come on, you could

538
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 1: finish it. I I almost slipped and called her another name,

539
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: which is just dumb. We know, and you know what,

540
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: the most acamic thing about her is her damn name. Rewinding,

541
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: So just so I can finish this thought. I was

542
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,719
Speaker 1: recently told at a show that my dick had been

543
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 1: showing the whole first half of the show, really and

544
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: then somebody said somebody said it was called game show

545
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: and I did it in Los Angeles with with Dave,

546
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 1: and then he was like, you know, your dick is

547
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,959
Speaker 1: showing and I was like, okay, well the short and

548
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:32,080
Speaker 1: it was a pant but I was wearing, and I

549
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 1: was like, and then someone said, well, we thought that's

550
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: what you were going for. And I would never want

551
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 1: people to think I was the type of gal who'd

552
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: go up there with this thing swinging around, not that

553
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: that's a bad thing. No, and I think it is

554
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 1: a bad thing. I don't think. I think like, did

555
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 1: you see that the poster for that new show The

556
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 1: Boys with Chase Comfort and his penis is out? Oh?

557
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: I didn't see that. I gotta see you gotta see

558
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,800
Speaker 1: it now and you want to see it? Um Amazon,

559
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: it's on Amazon, the show and you see his butt

560
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 1: two and the thing um So basically like, but I

561
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:08,280
Speaker 1: think that when you present penises, that's like, first of all,

562
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: I'm not like a fan of penises. You're stigmatizing ananomy. No,

563
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, penis is not my favorite part

564
00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:27,440
Speaker 1: of the man's body. What do you like? But back, chest, arms, face, face, hey,

565
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: face hair hair hair hair hair hair. Um, then like

566
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 1: penis like way down on the list after like knees

567
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 1: and toes. You know what I like? What do you like?

568
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: What do you like? I like? Do you like the blight?

569
00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 1: I like thick? I like, it's for real talking about

570
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: the length, like length and thickness is okay. So the

571
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: other day a pizza guy served me and his eyelashes

572
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,600
Speaker 1: so gorgeous that I fell in love with him, and

573
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: then he took his break outside the window where I

574
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: was eating my pizza, and I just stared at his

575
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:13,720
Speaker 1: eyelashes some more, and you know, huh, they were just gorgeous.

576
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: They were like dough, big brown eyes. And then um,

577
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: I went on to Amazon and I bought myself some

578
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: eyelash growth gel. Yes, lash can go a long way,

579
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: does Mike kevlong lashes? Oh? Yes? And that's beautiful beautiful

580
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 1: blue eyes. Yes, blonde lashes. We have the gel you have?

581
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: This is not this. This just reminded me that I

582
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:44,800
Speaker 1: need to put on some of the eye rollers. It's

583
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: a deep puffer, but I want I need to put

584
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: it all over because it's cooled right, It's like it's well,

585
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: you keep it in the fridge. It is would you

586
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 1: like to try? Have you ever have you always been

587
00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: someone that has like because only recently in the last

588
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: year have I been someone who buys like like face

589
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: creams and like stuff. Have you always been into that stuff?

590
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: This is ridiculous because even in high school I would

591
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: buy like under I creams, and I had learned I

592
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: would listen like from a distance, like at the clean

593
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,640
Speaker 1: clinic counter. Yes, to go like this, you know with

594
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: your ring fingers. But is that the ring finger, Yes,

595
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: and both ring fingers. You rock them towards your nose

596
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,319
Speaker 1: and push up. But you know why, why is that?

597
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: Because it's it's not putting, it's controlled pressure. It's not

598
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 1: like if you're using your mile, your pink. It's too

599
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,359
Speaker 1: much like you have too much control, muscle control. Why

600
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,279
Speaker 1: was I worried about skin at sixteen? I mean I

601
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 1: think I don't know. I think that's like a thing.

602
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: Where are you from? What? Kentucky? Okay? So are you

603
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: in the sun a lot? Oh? Yeah, so there you go.

604
00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: But you know, you have people in your life being like,

605
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: yea you certainty wong, you're gonna get all face. Well.

606
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 1: I did keep a bottle of bendisol a jelly number

607
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 1: four in the tool tractor box, and I would hide

608
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: it under the tool and then I would put it on,

609
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,440
Speaker 1: slathered on, and then just go out and plow and

610
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,959
Speaker 1: turn on the radio. Turn on the radio, just listen

611
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: to Donna Summer and get the sun and plow. If

612
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to have to do this, I'm going to

613
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 1: do it my way. Yeah. So you were out there plowing? Yeah,

614
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: I did all that stuff. I plowed, I cut tobacco, bailed. Hey,

615
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: and I didn't really enjoy any of it. And you know,

616
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 1: I was the number one son of my father, so

617
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: I was I was going to inherit the farm and

618
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,240
Speaker 1: work the farm. And everybody's like, you're gonna work part Yeah,

619
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 1: that's what we don't work farm anderson happen. Yeah, and

620
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: I go and when your MoMA goes farms yours and

621
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna pick up a farm and you're gonna rice

622
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,959
Speaker 1: crops and cows and tobacco, and you're gonna make sure

623
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 1: that everyone that's left in the family has tucking curves. Yeah.

624
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: And then your son your biological soon yeah, and then

625
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 1: you're logical when you have him with the non existent

626
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: female that you're dating. Yeah, we'll take over that farm. Okay,

627
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: I need to know more about these these crazy, crazy,

628
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: fun odd jobs that you had up until you like

629
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 1: it started like until you were like doing like comedy writing,

630
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,040
Speaker 1: like like what like what was like, I don't even

631
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: know this about you very much and I don't I

632
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: don't know whatever you want to reveal. Okay. So I

633
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: went to school to be you know, studied theater with

634
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: miss Paula Pellas. That was the connection, and we're best

635
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: friends So then I moved to New York to be

636
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: a musical theater performer, and I did some I worked

637
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:43,720
Speaker 1: on cruise ships and um did cruise ships, did dinner

638
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:47,919
Speaker 1: theater all in New York? All well, no dinner theater.

639
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 1: I did a lot away from New Yes, yes, but

640
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 1: it was hilarious because I remember dinner theater like I did.

641
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 1: I was casting a Vita as of course, like I

642
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 1: got a lot of chorus and dancer, singer dancer. I

643
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: was a singing dance and um, it was just revealed

644
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: in the musical that Avita had died. And then the

645
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 1: front row I just heard that, like you know, the

646
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: clicking of forks and stuff, and then someone saying, you know,

647
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 1: just passed me down over there they were finishing up

648
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: and click click click and like after you know, Evita

649
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: peron de yeah click click click click click, I'm not

650
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: with my say then yeah yeah, and then requiem Atterrana

651
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 1: don't know whatever the thing is saying. And so I

652
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 1: did all that, and then while I was doing that, um,

653
00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,320
Speaker 1: I had to have a little I did like catering,

654
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:47,360
Speaker 1: and I did um oh, I did sample sales. I

655
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: would um yes, I would do these because she miss

656
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: thing knows her fashion. You've known your fashion? Well, I

657
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 1: you know what in the eighties the supermodels drew me on.

658
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: You know, the Trenity. It was Naomi Lea and um,

659
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:12,600
Speaker 1: oh my god, Christie Tarlton at least sorry, I'm sorry,

660
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: but I used to buy Bizarre magazine for them. So

661
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: this is right, This is before miss Cindy. She Cindy

662
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 1: was there too, She was she Actually maybe it wasn't

663
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:30,120
Speaker 1: Christie Turlington. It was Sindy and Linda. I feel like

664
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: the trafic that does include Christie Turlington though, right, I

665
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,879
Speaker 1: want to say it does. Yeah, but they were all

666
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: this is when this is like the birth of the supermodel,

667
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: right yes, wow, And so that for you because you

668
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: because you pepper in those fashion and I did fashion shows,

669
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:48,399
Speaker 1: I did back stage work at fashion, loved it. I

670
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: was always peeking out to watch the walks. Yeah yeah.

671
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: You you look at it on television and you think, oh, yeah,

672
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: they're walking whatever. But that is like there's something powerful.

673
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: It's crazy specstake yeah yeah, seriously, outfits aren't done. Yeah,

674
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: and they're being like like safety pinned on yeah yeah. Yeah. See.

675
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: This is the thing about James is that you've you've

676
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: seen the culture from all signs I want to I

677
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: want to say the theater, the fashion, the film darling,

678
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: all of that farm and from the farm to the runway.

679
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: Um so farm too, runway, Oh my godm um. But

680
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:31,600
Speaker 1: we got to start this to runway. Honestly, that's for

681
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: you guys to figure out. I think that big old

682
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 1: at that Ivory tower, I think it's got to be

683
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: a restaurant or it's got to bring something from the farm.

684
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: And your your servers are marched out and they stomp

685
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: the damn yard, clump it. They literally stomp the yard

686
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: because it's set up like a barn, and so that

687
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 1: the servers like stomp the yard and they walk over

688
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,959
Speaker 1: to you and they never say, oh fucking words. Of course,

689
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 1: everything's ordered on an iPad. Yeah, it's ordered on an iPad.

690
00:39:59,360 --> 00:40:03,280
Speaker 1: And then all the food is served at once. Yeah.

691
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: They come out on masks. Yeah, and then the food

692
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 1: is down. Yeah. I love. Actually the song has no words.

693
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:21,239
Speaker 1: It's like jo and they're like exactly, and they come in,

694
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: drop it down and then everyone eats. Yes, sort of

695
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: speaking of because this just reminds me of the Versace sketches.

696
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 1: Was that you and Maya coming up with that together.

697
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: That was Maya, me and Emily and I love that

698
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 1: because I mean those I mean that was like near

699
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: the beginning of my you know, yeah, how did it

700
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,800
Speaker 1: happen that? Because you weren't you were doing like theater

701
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: and stuff, and you had already met Paula at school.

702
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: Now how do you get to snl? Like, how does

703
00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 1: that happen? What got you into comedy? I'll tell you

704
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 1: if you really want to, I do well. I did

705
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: a little of this, okay, and I did a little

706
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: and then I went a job and Lauren was like,

707
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: you got it? Um no, I was friends with Paula

708
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,360
Speaker 1: and Paula I went to the musical route and Paula

709
00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,879
Speaker 1: went to Florida and she got into some uh um

710
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 1: was called it an ad lib troop ad libs, but

711
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: she was she was doing you know, there was some

712
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: television down there, and she was in a few pilots,

713
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: and one pilot got into Lauren's hands and he called

714
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,320
Speaker 1: her up to audition. She auditioned, well, she did an audition.

715
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 1: He just said, I want you to be a writer

716
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 1: on the show. And she was scared to death and

717
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: she took it. And of course she's iconic. She has

718
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: all those characters under her belt. Um, from you know, cheerleaders,

719
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: what were they the Spartans Spartans to Debbie Downer and

720
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: all that. Anyway, so I started hanging out with her

721
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: and um people met me and uh, Mike Shoemaker asked

722
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 1: Paula if I could put a packet together because he

723
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 1: was head writer at the time. Yeah. Now, Mike Shoemaker

724
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: was a producer and I Jessie thought it was cute.

725
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:31,600
Speaker 1: He thought it would I think he thought it was funny.

726
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:35,640
Speaker 1: Whether that's you know, yes, well, you know whatever, it's

727
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: well anyway, so he what did he do? He I

728
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 1: put in a packet and in that packet was corn

729
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 1: chip nail tips. And that was the first episode it

730
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:56,160
Speaker 1: got in. Yeah, and it was with my ratio and um,

731
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 1: I can't remember. Yeah, it was it's fashion, it's food,

732
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,919
Speaker 1: it's corn chip attitude, it's flavor on the run, it's

733
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 1: corn chip nail tip fun. You know who I just

734
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: met with, met and worked with a little bit was

735
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:15,760
Speaker 1: Anna Gustare. I fucking love her. She's amazing. She's also

736
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 1: such a good writer. Yeah, singer well iconic, So her

737
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 1: and um, Maya had the idea for Gemini's Twin. That

738
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: was them and that that I worked on that with them,

739
00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: that that was like, that was and still sometimes somebody

740
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: will post a video of that and I'll be like,

741
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 1: these look great. Yeah they're so they still hold up

742
00:43:38,280 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 1: to me like whack whack, ain't nothing but a flat jack.

743
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: They're like they're on TRL and they're like and someone's like,

744
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 1: what is this song about? Like, it's about it's about

745
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: what a man does you wrong, and blula bla, and

746
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,200
Speaker 1: then then Anna goes, it's also about a pancake back fast,

747
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: so so wait. So the thing with that was they

748
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 1: always rotated out the third memory literally did I'm gonna

749
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 1: do it? Because basically, like there's a dance move that

750
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 1: Lucy lu does that I have done in my show.

751
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,279
Speaker 1: I literally ripped it from her and shows and here

752
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 1: it is, I'm gonna do it. He's taking the headphones off.

753
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:28,120
Speaker 1: So what Matt did reader was wide stands, bend down,

754
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:34,319
Speaker 1: asked up, fluttered his fingers spirit fingering my asshole, which

755
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: literally she did in a sketch. And I literally I

756
00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: remember just like following back over my chair because I

757
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 1: couldn't believe how explicit the movement luks and I was like,

758
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: this is insane that Lucy lu just did it. It's

759
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: about who Stewart is a I'm a Steward. Oh I

760
00:44:54,280 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 1: push your card and push your card, bump them. I'm

761
00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: yeah and yes we love So it was so funny.

762
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: So then you get there and it's really easy right away,

763
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: it's so easy. It was a breathe and it gets

764
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 1: easier as you go. Oh my god, do you still

765
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: feel twenty years in like you're like, like, it's it's

766
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:22,359
Speaker 1: still like a stressful Oh, it's it's you know, it's

767
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 1: the most amazing job on earth. You have to preface

768
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 1: with that. But then it is also live and it's

769
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:33,440
Speaker 1: a weekly you know, adventure, and it is it is like,

770
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 1: oh boy, when Friday and Saturday get there and then

771
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:40,720
Speaker 1: your thing doesn't work, Like say, it goes to dress

772
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 1: and this is the worst case scenario. It goes to

773
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 1: dress and it's dead and you're like, well, that thing

774
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: is going to get cut. It was a piece of

775
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 1: crap and it gets on and then between dress and

776
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: air you're supposed to make it better as what's his name?

777
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:05,200
Speaker 1: Nix it and uh, it's the nerves kick in and

778
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: you're like, wow, this is really and I've never had this,

779
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: but Paula did rewrite something and was putting it on

780
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: cards and they were holding up the cards as she

781
00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 1: was making me. Yeah, I remember that. That's got to

782
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 1: be insane. Yeah, I mean I had, I had. I've

783
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: talked about this. I think I had. I had a

784
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:29,719
Speaker 1: moment like that. For the Christmas episode with Will. He

785
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: and I wrote that Theresa May sketch, and Lauren like

786
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: kept it in the show even though it was it

787
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:36,959
Speaker 1: was fine addressed, but he kept it in the show

788
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 1: and he cut other sketches in favor of our sketch

789
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: because he was like, they're going to show the some

790
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: BBSO tomorrow, so we better, we better make this work.

791
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:45,840
Speaker 1: And I was like okay. So then Will and I

792
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,280
Speaker 1: are in the control room, Lauren's right there and basically

793
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: like and then were you cutting it and cutting cutting

794
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 1: it as the sketch was bought, and then they had

795
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:57,280
Speaker 1: to dump. They were counting dumping into it, dumping away

796
00:46:57,280 --> 00:46:59,239
Speaker 1: from it, dumping away from it as we're making the

797
00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 1: attitude like we're dumping in and five four, and then

798
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: they just jump out in the middle of Kate's line

799
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 1: and then the audience, the plots, and it was truly

800
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: like and then Will and I just look at each

801
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 1: other and laugh, and Lauren's right there. And then later

802
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: on that night, I'm out after party and then comes over.

803
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:15,879
Speaker 1: She's like, I just talked to Lauren and he said

804
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 1: it was really entertaining to watch you and well and

805
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,400
Speaker 1: they control and in a way that she was. She

806
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: was like, you know, he was like impressed but also

807
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: entertained it how like maddening it was, and it was

808
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: and like now I I've laughed at it since it happened.

809
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, what a crazy thing. Well, that's like if

810
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: you're in that last spot, yeah, and you don't get cut,

811
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,640
Speaker 1: but then you have you have to cut two pages.

812
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: You have a three minute sketch and you got to

813
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: cut a minute out of it. It's like, huh, okay,

814
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:46,840
Speaker 1: well this is not going to make any sense, and

815
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,600
Speaker 1: I wish you would have just cut it. Yeah anyway,

816
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 1: just you know, I could just walk out there and

817
00:47:53,040 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: go it didn't work. I'm sorry, I'm in the contro

818
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: I can figure out. So I'm nervously out here to

819
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: life telling you nervously out of your life telling you

820
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: that my sketch, I don't want to I don't want

821
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 1: to show it. I don't because I don't want to

822
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: read all your reviews tomorrow, every person on earth who

823
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: will review it tomorrow. Culture, you'll tweet about artist. The

824
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: age of Twitter. It has to be so hard. Oh

825
00:48:35,719 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: it's you know what it is different? You know how

826
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:44,319
Speaker 1: freaking old I am. And by the way I would

827
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: look at men over forty I said that earlier, and

828
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, what's wrong with me? Just people over forty

829
00:48:54,640 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: Radley appear Georgia Clooney, Georgia, Georgia. Yes, Um, And so

830
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: what you're saying Twitter Now, when we first started, um,

831
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,719
Speaker 1: you would get eight track tapes of your scene and

832
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:13,759
Speaker 1: they would stack them up on the table and then

833
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: you would go take this clunky thing and put it

834
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: in and watch your scene to figure out what needed

835
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:20,919
Speaker 1: to be cut. Now it's all like on a server

836
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: and right right. And then back then, you know, it

837
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 1: was like you felt like it was the forties, the

838
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,440
Speaker 1: review came out, here's the paper. You know, they lovedays

839
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:33,359
Speaker 1: and right right, you know. But now it's like, you know,

840
00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: everybody and their mother will have an opinion about and

841
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: that's why as soon as your sketches done, you do

842
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 1: Twitter search and you see what people are saying. No,

843
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,319
Speaker 1: I don't do that. I actually I fear if I

844
00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: was there, if I would do that, you probably I've

845
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 1: done it. I've done it where once it goes up

846
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 1: to YouTube at like three in the morning, like I'm

847
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,719
Speaker 1: an after party and right on my way home from

848
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 1: after I pull it up on YouTube and I read

849
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: the comments, and I'm just like, why did I do that?

850
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: Why did I do? Yeah? I mean sometimes it's great,

851
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,480
Speaker 1: especially if you have something that you're like, I'm not

852
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 1: so sure that it played like I wanted or whatever,

853
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: and and then you're like, I'm just going to peak

854
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 1: and then people are like nice, They're like this is weird,

855
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: which then you're like, oh, good, weird is great. Yeah yeah, yeah, good, good, good.

856
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: Well we love weird. We love weird. And now we

857
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: ask the question. Okay, so this is the question that

858
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: we ask every single guest that comes on this podcast.

859
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: Recess is what it's called UM, and the question is

860
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:37,480
Speaker 1: what is the culture that made you say culture is

861
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: for me? This is the piece of pop culture UM

862
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 1: that you felt like, if you look back on your life, like,

863
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 1: is still that thing that you think may have defined

864
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,439
Speaker 1: you and sent you in a cultural direction? Well, this

865
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: is there's two things I think um dance and music

866
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: both played a big part. Because the first introduction to

867
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: it was I went to my parents took me to

868
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: Opera Land, which no longer exists, and it was a

869
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 1: theme park that had a lot of shows with theme

870
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: park entertainers, and I was so in love with the

871
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:18,360
Speaker 1: show called I Hear America Singing and I eventually auditioned

872
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: for it. I snuck away, snuck. Can you snuck? Snucked?

873
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 1: I snucked? I snucked away, snucked. Towards the audition, I

874
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: walked in the door, snucking in all the way when

875
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 1: when I had snuffed as much as I could snucked,

876
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: you know, it's still there my way all the way

877
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 1: up to the casting director her face and they still

878
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:54,000
Speaker 1: don't know him. There everything everything to do with school

879
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 1: up when everyone's smoking door in the broad away intermission

880
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 1: and snuck in anyway, So that was and I love that.

881
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: And then I remember Gypsy, the movie with um with

882
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 1: a how the movie was with Roslin Russell and oh god,

883
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 1: what is her name? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, come

884
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 1: on Oh god she died, would god she's dead. It's

885
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: a culture number forty one. Natalie Wood is dead, thrown

886
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: off a boat. It was we all know what, Christopher

887
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 1: walk In Wagner. We're all right off that somebody, somebody snucker.

888
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: This woman was snucked. All right, we've got all right,

889
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 1: thank you all for this is obviously a snuck. I

890
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: just I would like someone to snuck me. Oh you

891
00:52:51,360 --> 00:53:03,359
Speaker 1: don't get snucked. Oh well, miss Johnson's the other one, honey, yeah, okay,

892
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 1: so listen and Margaret and Margaret bye bye. She's actually

893
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: a sligh in those okay, so you know how in

894
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: by By Bredie the film, Yeah, there's the first thing

895
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: where she's like, oh, being one of the girls. She's

896
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 1: like she's like giving you like ainu like hopeful, and

897
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 1: then at the end she kind of becomes like a

898
00:53:24,080 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: bit of a strumpet, and it's like and then she's, okay,

899
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,959
Speaker 1: she's kind of like being more like I've grown during

900
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,439
Speaker 1: this film, right, I love that. And they even changed

901
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 1: her makeup a little where she has a little bit

902
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,640
Speaker 1: more of like an eyebrow raise and she's like she's

903
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,439
Speaker 1: and Margaret was in some other like movie musical where

904
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 1: she played at full full ho and it was beautiful.

905
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: I don't know that like um and Margaret Well. I

906
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:52,040
Speaker 1: love her number in Viva Las Vegas. Okay, it was

907
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,720
Speaker 1: to show me his appreciation. The thing is, she starts

908
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:59,080
Speaker 1: in Hell in dance shoots like the PC and she

909
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:01,760
Speaker 1: has a little rap and you know, if a woman

910
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: is going to sing a song, come down the staircase

911
00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:09,040
Speaker 1: and toss the rap. So she did that, so I'm

912
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 1: in and then suddenly it becomes very bossa nova the Okay,

913
00:54:14,040 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: she's in flats like at some point she went she went, no, no, no,

914
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 1: no no. We are taking these capezios off and I'm

915
00:54:20,560 --> 00:54:22,840
Speaker 1: putting on my ballet slippers because we're doing something, and

916
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: it just cuts to the flats. Yeah, but does she

917
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: dance on the tables and ship and in this too,

918
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 1: I know she's just doing I think she's just she's

919
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:31,919
Speaker 1: just doing boys. The boys are behind her and she's

920
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: just in front, like and suddenly she's just in a

921
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 1: leotard right the transition, the transition. I love boys in

922
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: the back. Yeah, I'm just doing like like um Um

923
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: like in Roxy even as Yeah, yeah, I love I

924
00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: love chorus boys. I guess and that was that was me.

925
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,160
Speaker 1: I wanted that, That's what I wanted. I mean, chorus

926
00:54:55,200 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: boys met a coorse boy means like you are like

927
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: a lot of snug and you're hot and snuck in. Yeah,

928
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: and you had to stretch. You had to have stretched.

929
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 1: You had to make sure those hammys were long and

930
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 1: lean and could conk. You know, you had to crack

931
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 1: punk at the audition or you were not getting it. Now.

932
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,959
Speaker 1: I at the point, at that point, I haven't sung

933
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: in forever, but I had a good voice, so I

934
00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: would always be like, Okay, I'll get a call back

935
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: for the singing for yes, the singer. I mean, I've

936
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: got a call back for the dancing. And then I thought,

937
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: if I can just make it through that. And I

938
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: was pretty good dancer, you know, but I was gonna say,

939
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 1: like like you you are like you were probably like perfect,

940
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:41,279
Speaker 1: you are a perfect course boy, were tall, lean, and

941
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,359
Speaker 1: and then you could just move those limbs around grace.

942
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,920
Speaker 1: There were so many of them. Yeah, the chorus boys,

943
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: you going. I had dreams of it. Oh, you had dreams.

944
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: How did you meet Mike? Oh at a bath house? Yes?

945
00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: Is it true? Oh? My god, is this true? She

946
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 1: put her head on the table. Is this true? I

947
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 1: love that it actually is true. Yeah, and I've had

948
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: I've had some fun meet ups at bath houses and

949
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 1: it happened and we grew too, we kept started dating

950
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: and then I love I love this. Oh my god, girl,

951
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: if you want to do what, I been to a

952
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 1: bath house, because I always I always get I don't,

953
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 1: I don't guess, I care. No, No, it doesn't matter.

954
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: I mean I've never I've never been to a bath house,

955
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: really saying I can find my husband there. People now

956
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: do um the apps more? Well, yeah, bath houses might

957
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: be having a combat because I've been to two in

958
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,879
Speaker 1: the last year. I went to one in Vancouver. When

959
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: we were there, you were I think it was it

960
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: was like you were like asleep. No see, but this

961
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:04,000
Speaker 1: is the thing you often do weird ship without me

962
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 1: without telling me. Because I'm not gonna be like, do

963
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 1: you want to come to the bath house? Not because

964
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: it would both be us, like we can split up.

965
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:15,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna embarrass you. Okay, So you so this I

966
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: can't believe. While we were in Vancouver, you up and

967
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:20,160
Speaker 1: went to a bath house and didn't tell me, Like, Okay,

968
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: here's the thing. You and I can't share a hook up,

969
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: but for some reason we can go to a bath.

970
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,200
Speaker 1: How you Yeah, I don't want to hook up with

971
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: the same person as you wanted to go to a bath.

972
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: You can go over there and I'll go over here.

973
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's weird that you didn't say you

974
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: were going. What is sharing a hook up? Like the

975
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 1: same estim the same at different times? Yes, yeah, like

976
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: like okay, I'm I'm you have done this person, and

977
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,000
Speaker 1: then a few months later like oh no, no, no no.

978
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,360
Speaker 1: So that wasn't the situation. The situation was Bowen and

979
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: I were hooking up with someone and I was hooking

980
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 1: up with him first, and then it became apparent to

981
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,960
Speaker 1: me that they were flirting, and I said, okay, well

982
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: you can hook up with him. I'm just not going

983
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: to anymore. And I told the kid that I felt

984
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: this way and he said, I understand, I won't do it,

985
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: and then they did it anyway, So what Yes, that

986
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: is to go on a day and it's like fine

987
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: in you said fine, you did it, and then the

988
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:16,360
Speaker 1: day after I was so racked with guilt that I

989
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 1: told you was like, hey, your progative thing you should

990
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: have stayed away. Okay, James, James is the arbiter in

991
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: this and anything I know. I think I agree you do.

992
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,800
Speaker 1: I did. I did, I did. I did a bet thing.

993
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,040
Speaker 1: I did not do it. But I will not apologize

994
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: for going to the bath house without you because I

995
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: would have felt uncomfortable. It's not that I wanted to

996
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: go with you. It's that it's weird that you went

997
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:43,680
Speaker 1: without telling me you were going. It's not and we

998
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 1: were there together. I probably was like, where's Bowen? You

999
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:50,160
Speaker 1: were literally asleep? No, I wasn't literally Yes. Did they

1000
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: have entertainment? They did not have entertainment like music videos? Wait,

1001
00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Ages ago? You know, armed

1002
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: at whatever? The Continental baths? What is that like? Because

1003
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. It seems like you're you

1004
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: have a focus when you go there, and you're not like, yeah,

1005
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to sit here in my towel and listen

1006
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:18,240
Speaker 1: to Buck Yeah, or a yodeler or a yo yodeler.

1007
00:59:18,360 --> 00:59:27,439
Speaker 1: That would be bad. Yettle, Oh, the first time you've

1008
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:31,640
Speaker 1: ever ever tried. I think he's got it. It's rock.

1009
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: You forget the farm sent a classical channel. We've got

1010
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:43,000
Speaker 1: to market you as a gay yodeler. We got to

1011
00:59:43,000 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: put this to a beat. Oh my god. Imagine also

1012
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: like you can wear like gorgeous like later hosing, but

1013
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 1: like some sort of like fashion. Take on it. Come

1014
00:59:55,520 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: on a symmetrical like yeah, dig ours deconstructed. Can you

1015
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: yodel and say yeah queen on a screen? No screen, screen,

1016
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: you get it? Come on that range. I'm a tenor,

1017
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 1: I'm a solid tendor. I don't think you know it's

1018
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: not I don't know my range, I don't know my notes.

1019
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: I never I like you, uh, probably not even as

1020
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: seriously as as but I dip my toe into trying

1021
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 1: to do musical theater a little bit. I ended up

1022
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 1: realizing that nothing made me more nervous than those because

1023
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: I feel like there's not a lot of like a

1024
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:50,320
Speaker 1: room for and this is probably not true. It's just

1025
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:52,600
Speaker 1: not a skill I naturally possessed. When you're auditioning for

1026
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: musical theater, there's not a lot of like um availability

1027
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: to be spontaneous in the audition. You kind of have to, like,

1028
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,840
Speaker 1: I just felt I'm also like I can sing, but

1029
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:05,160
Speaker 1: I'm not like a trained class singer, like whereas some

1030
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:06,919
Speaker 1: of those musical theater guys, like you hear them warming

1031
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 1: up and you're like, there's also like eight bars like bars,

1032
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: and you gotta hit them. And then there's a table

1033
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: they're just sitting there looking at your resume. It's really

1034
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 1: like demoralizing. Yeah, it's like that stereotype of show biz

1035
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 1: like yeah, and you're like, no one's looking at me.

1036
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:29,200
Speaker 1: I'm up here doing eight bars like you know, I'm

1037
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: watching six Yeah, wanting to kill yourself? Yeah, going, why

1038
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: did I choose this dumb song? It's not a dumb

1039
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: songs And every song I ever tells productions, I was like,

1040
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: why did I do that? Like one time for an audition,

1041
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 1: I sang Sunday Morning, the stupidest I've ever done. Like,

1042
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just felt like I'm so in

1043
01:01:53,000 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: control of like myself when I do like comedy stuff

1044
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,680
Speaker 1: for acting stuff, and then when it's like musical theater

1045
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 1: or something, all all my like like ability, and though

1046
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 1: I could see you, like especially one of these new

1047
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:11,200
Speaker 1: musicals are so like the and they don't have that

1048
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: Broadway The Broadway voice has changed. No, it's totally different,

1049
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 1: Like I, um, you know, like I really wanted to

1050
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:20,439
Speaker 1: audition for a Book of Mormon. But then in order

1051
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 1: to be in the chorus for that, you have tap

1052
01:02:22,480 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: and I can't. Damn, I'm on the mover. I'm not

1053
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: like it's a dance studio just down that, so I

1054
01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: shouldn't rull in class, tap tap clap um. But like

1055
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 1: that Andrew Reynolds part, I feel like would be really um.

1056
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:39,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, no, I mean it's just I find them

1057
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: so nerve racking. Those auditions like scary, like nothing else

1058
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 1: I've ever experienced. This is when I thought, oh, it's

1059
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 1: happening for me. I did it off Off Noise, off

1060
01:02:50,600 --> 01:02:54,400
Speaker 1: off Broadway and it was called box Office of the Damned,

1061
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,920
Speaker 1: and Christian Channawith wasn't it. It was her first gig.

1062
01:02:58,160 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 1: What really, box Office of the Damned together? This is huge. Yeah,

1063
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:07,800
Speaker 1: and you know she when you heard her in that,

1064
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 1: you were like, oh this girl, this girl is going

1065
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 1: from the University of Oklahoma. Yeah. And you know, they

1066
01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 1: kept saying we're going to move it to off Broadway,

1067
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 1: and I kept I had my fingers crossed. I'm like,

1068
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: it's happening. I thought maybe because she was there, they

1069
01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,040
Speaker 1: would that it would ride well. I thought everybody in

1070
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: the cast was so brilliant. There were some old school

1071
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: Broadway people in it, and there was another girl in

1072
01:03:31,840 --> 01:03:34,400
Speaker 1: there that had the craziest belt. I cannot think of

1073
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,200
Speaker 1: her name, but just an amazing voice on a gost

1074
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 1: ire young who went by you know, Kristen Stone. I'm

1075
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 1: Kristen Stone. But you know, that was something that I

1076
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: was always like, Oh do you do you miss? Did

1077
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:57,840
Speaker 1: you miss like the theater like company like feel of it?

1078
01:03:57,880 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: Like I do I miss? Like there is sort of

1079
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: a family feeling, but there's also and when you are

1080
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 1: rehearsing something and you're like, I'm the wheek like in that.

1081
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 1: I really did feel like I am the weak link

1082
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 1: in this thing and you're I also was playing a

1083
01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:17,880
Speaker 1: character that I was like, I don't really relate to

1084
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:22,960
Speaker 1: who I'm playing, and uh and so I I always

1085
01:04:23,000 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: felt like I was trying harder than everyone else. They

1086
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,680
Speaker 1: all just kind of were floating around and doing a

1087
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 1: great job, and I was out there really are working

1088
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:36,680
Speaker 1: it down, chewing it up, trying to make it work.

1089
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:42,200
Speaker 1: You're probably fabulous. It's just that I got great reviews.

1090
01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: You got good reviews. I don't know. Somebody liked it.

1091
01:04:45,800 --> 01:04:47,640
Speaker 1: I don't remember his name. I think he's dead now,

1092
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 1: damn another death Natalie would and that Natalie she reviewed

1093
01:04:53,880 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 1: it snucked good. Yeah, they snug that review out before

1094
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: I could make any changes to it. Oh, I do

1095
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 1: want to say, I'm sorry, I'm still talking about the

1096
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 1: bath houses. But oh, let's go back. I love it.

1097
01:05:09,960 --> 01:05:12,160
Speaker 1: They're gonna have I think, I really because you know what,

1098
01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 1: and this is the thing. This is like the this

1099
01:05:14,160 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 1: is the modern day thing of Bette Midler performing at

1100
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:19,880
Speaker 1: the Condonal Baths. Um Nympho Wars just did a live

1101
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 1: podcast recording at a sex Are you serious? And it's

1102
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 1: called the Fisting Special Casting Special. It's another podcast, fabulous podcast, wonderful,

1103
01:05:30,440 --> 01:05:33,280
Speaker 1: artful podcast. They had a Hammel and Macy Rodman but

1104
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 1: they um did this whole show at at a sex

1105
01:05:37,120 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: party and like no one was paying attention. How do

1106
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 1: you not say attention to podcast recording? Will explain the

1107
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 1: bath house? Like, I actually don't know what the layout.

1108
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,400
Speaker 1: I guess they're all different, but like what happens then

1109
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 1: general layout? You walk in, you show your I d's,

1110
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 1: it's you get a stamp at a tank top. No literally,

1111
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 1: they give you a key like a little phone cord

1112
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: like a coiled little thing. That's your locker. And then

1113
01:06:06,240 --> 01:06:08,720
Speaker 1: you know, you take your stuff in. You either you

1114
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 1: either pay for a locker or you pay for a

1115
01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: private room where there's a little cubby there. You change

1116
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: out into whatever you want to wear. If it's nothing great,

1117
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: if it's a jocks. Do they give you a contraceptive,

1118
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: you can buy them. Okay, they give you a towel.

1119
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 1: They give you a towel, and that sometimes can be

1120
01:06:25,320 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 1: a contraceptive. What I do is the towel towels. Well,

1121
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 1: the towels are always see through. They're not plush. They've

1122
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:45,720
Speaker 1: been washed over and over bleached into transparency and losing hose.

1123
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: And then you can walk around, check out the trade,

1124
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 1: the trade. There's a hot tub, there's a pool, people

1125
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 1: talking or is it mostly silence? Silence? But others sometimes

1126
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 1: people are talking about you know, where are you from?

1127
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 1: How are you? And then and then with me, it's

1128
01:07:03,840 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 1: normally the people you don't want to talk to you.

1129
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,040
Speaker 1: It's always the people you don't want to talk to

1130
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:11,360
Speaker 1: that are like the most inquisitive. Yes, And then there's

1131
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:14,560
Speaker 1: rooms that play. Is it a large space depends on

1132
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:17,240
Speaker 1: the depends on what's the popular one in New York

1133
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 1: that I'm going to go to. I don't know the

1134
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 1: Turkish ones, but those are those are like general public,

1135
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:24,200
Speaker 1: but then like Thursdays or Sundays or like the men only. Yeah,

1136
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 1: but it's never been. I've never been. I don't think anything.

1137
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 1: Sometimes some some cruising stuff happened the Turkish bath Turkish

1138
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 1: baths in the East Village. But now, like I feel like,

1139
01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 1: I mean, before the Equinox show went down, like the

1140
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 1: modern like modern gay sort of cruising scene is just

1141
01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: in the steam room. Yeah, and sex happens there, and

1142
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:51,439
Speaker 1: sex happens there with steam, with steam? Are you got

1143
01:07:51,480 --> 01:07:55,320
Speaker 1: all your pores open? Sound like a true baby? No? No, no,

1144
01:07:55,400 --> 01:08:00,640
Speaker 1: I just feel like I would pass out. Yeah, I'm hot,

1145
01:08:00,680 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 1: and then I'm getting all flustered and the next thing

1146
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 1: you know, I'm lying on the damn ground to damn ground.

1147
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,400
Speaker 1: I'm laying on the damn ground, lying on the damp ground,

1148
01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,280
Speaker 1: and someone's gonna have to call what on Someone's gonna

1149
01:08:11,320 --> 01:08:13,080
Speaker 1: have to call nine one one stat honey because I

1150
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 1: got snucked on the ground. Or three one one who

1151
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 1: is this bitch? Or four one one Get a damn clue?

1152
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 1: I feel like it'sbestos that's what I'm calling three one

1153
01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 1: one I'm calling I'm calling a building violation. Damn damn,

1154
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:33,559
Speaker 1: I really do think I'm I'm just gonna come out

1155
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 1: and say I'm a big bath house boy. I don't

1156
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 1: go to them that often. Bath house boy Denver swim

1157
01:08:39,160 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: club in Denver's fabulous, because like I'll go home to

1158
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:45,560
Speaker 1: Denver and like sometimes I'll like chat up guys and

1159
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 1: I'll be like, I can't, you can't come over. I

1160
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:51,600
Speaker 1: don't want to go over to your stupid apartment the

1161
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,080
Speaker 1: damn house. Well that is the good thing about it

1162
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 1: is you can, you know, try the trade out. You

1163
01:08:57,400 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: try the trade out, and then you then you get

1164
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,080
Speaker 1: to know their personality. There you go and then you're like, okay,

1165
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:07,480
Speaker 1: well that worked out. Okay, so now tell me a story.

1166
01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 1: Are you hot? Can we talk? How are you as

1167
01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 1: a storyteller? Exactly? Then that I'm going to sit here

1168
01:09:17,960 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 1: and now I need to be entertained. Kill me, spin

1169
01:09:22,760 --> 01:09:30,559
Speaker 1: me a damn tail after you're done with Matte fable me.

1170
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 1: Friend of mine went to Berlin and said that was insanity, like, well,

1171
01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,960
Speaker 1: some sort of I guess it was a bath house

1172
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,960
Speaker 1: but he had all different kinds of rooms, like it

1173
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 1: seems very German to me that you would categorize your

1174
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:52,320
Speaker 1: rooms like this room. This room is just anal oh yeah, okay, okay.

1175
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 1: And he walked through because he was looking for his boyfriend.

1176
01:09:55,280 --> 01:09:59,080
Speaker 1: He and his boyfriend went together and he got splashed

1177
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:05,320
Speaker 1: with lube, no extra loop. He gets splashed with extra lube.

1178
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:07,560
Speaker 1: But how did he know that? It wasn't well, it

1179
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 1: could have been anything, could have been anything. It could

1180
01:10:09,479 --> 01:10:13,519
Speaker 1: have been anything, but it went and like, oh god,

1181
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 1: now now let me ask you this. Come on, I

1182
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 1: hope Michelle Obama is not listening. I don't think she is.

1183
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:22,360
Speaker 1: I think she listens to other podcasts like Two Dope Queens.

1184
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: I think she listens to Guys We Fucked. I think

1185
01:10:25,080 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: she listens to you talking about I'm talking about the

1186
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 1: lube that when somebody pulled out it flicked. O. Lord,

1187
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:40,640
Speaker 1: that's gotta be some real water based stuff. And now

1188
01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:42,479
Speaker 1: you're asking, like what kind of lube that might be?

1189
01:10:42,520 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 1: If it? If it, I'm interested because if it's silicone based,

1190
01:10:45,800 --> 01:10:48,680
Speaker 1: I don't think it's gonna splush. So it's either a

1191
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:52,639
Speaker 1: water based or it's I don't even you know, there's

1192
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:56,200
Speaker 1: probably you know, it's modern times. I think if it

1193
01:10:56,240 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 1: was calm, he would have known bo it's stuck. But

1194
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 1: know I had that well what was it called it cold? Yeah,

1195
01:11:03,680 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 1: but it doesn't remain cold because it's been in the

1196
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:08,280
Speaker 1: warmest place on Earth depends on the kind of lube.

1197
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:14,799
Speaker 1: The warmest place. That's what they call my asshole Disney

1198
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:17,800
Speaker 1: World's the happiest place on the warmest place on earth

1199
01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 1: is my asshole, asshole, my yes, my yesh. Maybe do

1200
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:37,639
Speaker 1: that in yodle my asshole, my assholes on it. Um.

1201
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:43,599
Speaker 1: I think it's a water based lube. Basically talk about

1202
01:11:43,960 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 1: lube a lot. Yeah, we talked about the thing is

1203
01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:49,479
Speaker 1: I don't know. I actually don't jack off with lube.

1204
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 1: And then I heard someone someone said to me, that's crazy,

1205
01:11:52,640 --> 01:11:55,719
Speaker 1: and I was like, what, No, it's just it's extra business.

1206
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 1: I would also think it's a waste of the loop exactly.

1207
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 1: But somebody literally to me like they never jack off.

1208
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,200
Speaker 1: Act like you're you're doing like you're going to do

1209
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:08,960
Speaker 1: something bad to your member. Yeah, I mean it's like

1210
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 1: check your skin because mine's just fine. When I'm a

1211
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:20,160
Speaker 1: tug and check your skin. Lout is expensive. Hello, I

1212
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: use Kram de mare, I onate with petruscan baluga two

1213
01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:34,880
Speaker 1: hundred bucks, a little bottle of Lamire to jack off

1214
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:38,120
Speaker 1: with its seven I'm the share of jacking off. I

1215
01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:49,840
Speaker 1: only use lamare bitch, fucking share bitch? Oh did you

1216
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: Share show? Yeah? I was supposed to see it, but

1217
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 1: then that was the night at the blackout he was

1218
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 1: supposed to bowen. Yank's father is a huge Share fan.

1219
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 1: You know. Oh he's not a fan of homosexual really. Yeah,

1220
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,080
Speaker 1: how that is? That is a very large dichotomy that

1221
01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It's not so funny and iranic.

1222
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 1: I don't have it in me to tell him that

1223
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,080
Speaker 1: like shares a gay icon. But he just likes her

1224
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 1: music and out of context, has no idea what Share

1225
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 1: means culturally. But it's like, I love her music. He

1226
01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 1: loves Believe, he loves that whole album. He likes auto tune,

1227
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:27,639
Speaker 1: he loves auto tune, he loves give Me Right remember

1228
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 1: that song? Does he like a lot of Share songs? No?

1229
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,200
Speaker 1: I mean we just we just had that album, like

1230
01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,599
Speaker 1: my mom bought at a yard sale in Canada, in Montreal,

1231
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:40,760
Speaker 1: and we just like played it. I remember like, like

1232
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 1: Princess died just oh god the year. Let me set

1233
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:52,439
Speaker 1: the scene. Princess Die is dead, Natalie. She died when

1234
01:13:52,439 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: I was at a club. Princess Diana couldn't happen. It

1235
01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:59,639
Speaker 1: happened when I was at some brand new club and uh,

1236
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:01,360
Speaker 1: you know, one of these gay clubs. And then it

1237
01:14:01,439 --> 01:14:03,960
Speaker 1: just you know, there was there wasn't social media, so

1238
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:07,880
Speaker 1: I just went through just everybody whispering, and finally you

1239
01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:11,559
Speaker 1: just saw a lot of guys trying to dance through tears. Oh,

1240
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 1: such an icon. I think, I don't. I think we

1241
01:14:15,200 --> 01:14:17,360
Speaker 1: don't realize. We don't realize that that like, well she

1242
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 1: was like speaking out about AIDS or yeah, and really

1243
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:25,920
Speaker 1: and when that happened, you were just like, oh, and

1244
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:27,920
Speaker 1: then I you know, I didn't know I felt one

1245
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:29,559
Speaker 1: way or another about her, but when it happened, I

1246
01:14:29,560 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 1: didn't realize how much she actually meant because she was, Yeah,

1247
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 1: this is speaking out about the AIDS from like like

1248
01:14:37,160 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 1: a former member from like royalty. Huge deal. And then

1249
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,680
Speaker 1: like and then yeah, you don't realize how much she

1250
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,559
Speaker 1: what she stood for in this community that she wasn't

1251
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 1: necessarily a part of, but she advocated for anyone to

1252
01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 1: do that. She just stood up and did it, you

1253
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,920
Speaker 1: know for sure, and then for us, For me, it

1254
01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 1: was just like this beautiful woman. Honestly, I did kind

1255
01:14:59,880 --> 01:15:04,160
Speaker 1: of dialogue onto yeah, right right. I think I understood

1256
01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:08,200
Speaker 1: that she was important to people in England, but I don't.

1257
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,160
Speaker 1: I didn't know but to the gays like she like

1258
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:14,759
Speaker 1: could you imagine? I mean, But also it's just weird

1259
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 1: to think about these people as like, you know, this

1260
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,719
Speaker 1: is different in random But I was recently like I

1261
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 1: like felt in like a Wikipedia wormhole and I stumbled

1262
01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:28,599
Speaker 1: upon Brittany Murphy's Wikipedia Brittany Murphy passed away. That's like

1263
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:34,120
Speaker 1: it's so crazy under such bizarre circumstances and like so young,

1264
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 1: like ever, well, that that's the thing is that I

1265
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:42,280
Speaker 1: was actually looking up what it was and she died

1266
01:15:42,439 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 1: of pneumonia and the toxicology report said that it was

1267
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 1: mostly natural causes. But also, and I think this is

1268
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:53,160
Speaker 1: a little bit throw people off multiple drug intoxication. But

1269
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:55,840
Speaker 1: then as you read more, people would write that off

1270
01:15:55,880 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 1: as being like, oh, well, she was a drug addict,

1271
01:15:57,600 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: and there were rumors of that because she had lost

1272
01:15:59,439 --> 01:16:01,240
Speaker 1: a lot of weight um as she got a little

1273
01:16:01,240 --> 01:16:05,880
Speaker 1: bit older. But then her husband died of the same thing,

1274
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:09,639
Speaker 1: and um, then there was rumors about black mold being

1275
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 1: in their house, and I think that and and then

1276
01:16:12,160 --> 01:16:16,760
Speaker 1: apparently there there has been um reports that confirmed that

1277
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 1: there were some type of mold in their house and

1278
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:22,080
Speaker 1: that the multiple drug intoxication was not because she was

1279
01:16:22,120 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 1: abusing drugs, but because she was taking a lot of

1280
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,880
Speaker 1: stuff to try to get better. So I think that

1281
01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 1: that might have been what happened was her and her

1282
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 1: husband were very sick because something was sucked up in

1283
01:16:32,680 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 1: their home. And um, that's what throws people off as like,

1284
01:16:37,479 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 1: oh they were they must have been on drugs, and

1285
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 1: the celebrities, etcetera. But I think that they were very

1286
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,800
Speaker 1: sick and it was a lot over the counter stuff

1287
01:16:45,840 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 1: that she that was in her system. And then there

1288
01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 1: was weird rumors. Her father, who was a strange for

1289
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 1: her mother, made these strange allegations that like her mother

1290
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 1: had poisoned them and like really weird stuff, which I

1291
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:01,240
Speaker 1: think spun it all offensive directions, But I don't think

1292
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:04,719
Speaker 1: anyone's ever really come forward and said this is what happened.

1293
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:08,880
Speaker 1: But reading it, my gauge is that something was going

1294
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,400
Speaker 1: on in their house where they both had the same

1295
01:17:11,479 --> 01:17:15,839
Speaker 1: ailments like that had to be atmosphere. I'm no fucking doctor,

1296
01:17:15,880 --> 01:17:20,599
Speaker 1: I'm only a snook. But you know, well, at least

1297
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 1: she didn't get thrown off a boat, yeah, I mean,

1298
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 1: or worse, Yeah, or worse, you know, sucked up in

1299
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:33,600
Speaker 1: a tornado like build, like a like food. Remember the

1300
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 1: scene in the beginning of Twister, Yeah, where the gut

1301
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 1: with Dad gets sucked up on the twister. What a

1302
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 1: horrific death. Horrific to go there. You hate to see it.

1303
01:17:44,200 --> 01:17:46,640
Speaker 1: There were there are fates worse than death. What the

1304
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:50,920
Speaker 1: funk happened to Natalie would We'll never know? That had

1305
01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:53,839
Speaker 1: to be. I just want to believe she got tipsy

1306
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:58,439
Speaker 1: and fell off, But I don't know. I mean sometimes

1307
01:17:58,520 --> 01:18:00,519
Speaker 1: that that happens on boats have all the time. But

1308
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,040
Speaker 1: then for them to I don't know, it sounds weird

1309
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:08,599
Speaker 1: fishy to me. Christopher Walking has a blood on his hands.

1310
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:13,559
Speaker 1: And with that thought, it's time it's time to move

1311
01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:16,599
Speaker 1: on to I don't think so honey. So here's the deal.

1312
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 1: I Don't Think so Honey is our segment that we

1313
01:18:18,640 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 1: do on every episode of this podcast. We just called

1314
01:18:20,920 --> 01:18:24,599
Speaker 1: Lost Culture rests um. It is a one minute rant

1315
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 1: on pop culture. We take something in pop culture, or

1316
01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:29,320
Speaker 1: culture at large, or life in general that we are

1317
01:18:29,400 --> 01:18:31,759
Speaker 1: not necessarily liking too much, and we take one minute

1318
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 1: to dress that thing down with the words I don't

1319
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 1: think so, honey. Um, I have something. Okay, I have something.

1320
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 1: It's a little specific, he said, here we go. It

1321
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 1: just came to I don't think Sonny's time starts now.

1322
01:18:46,720 --> 01:18:49,280
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. That goddamn Hollywood Walk of Fame.

1323
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,639
Speaker 1: Don't make me look down while I'm walking. I want

1324
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:54,200
Speaker 1: to see where I'm going. Now I look down and see,

1325
01:18:54,320 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 1: you know, Tommy Chong's name on a tile. Okay, honey,

1326
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,720
Speaker 1: Hollywood Walk of Fame. You're on the worst street in

1327
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:07,080
Speaker 1: all of the world too. Why do I why? Why

1328
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:09,240
Speaker 1: is it gonna be a fucking vape store everywhere I

1329
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:13,680
Speaker 1: go nowadays? This is trash, terrible. I want to be

1330
01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:19,719
Speaker 1: able to go to the damn on you without seeing

1331
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:26,800
Speaker 1: the name of our president, Donald J. Trump. Boo for shame, shame.

1332
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 1: Where's the committee the community board to destroy that one? Hud?

1333
01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:34,720
Speaker 1: And you know what Hollywood Walk of Fame. I used

1334
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:36,439
Speaker 1: to want to I used to I had a little

1335
01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 1: gay boy dream of having my name on you. I

1336
01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:41,280
Speaker 1: don't want to be on you at all. It would

1337
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 1: be the biggest shame of my life if, if, if

1338
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:51,160
Speaker 1: you decided to put me on you Darling okay, officially

1339
01:19:51,320 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 1: on record does not want Hollywood welcome, which actually is

1340
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 1: fine because you know those things are paid for. Ye,

1341
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,560
Speaker 1: you're like agents by them, right. I mean? Also that

1342
01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 1: is there's no good spots left. Yeah. Oh god, that starts,

1343
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 1: you know, hanging them from wires. Yes. I would love

1344
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 1: a little mobile movement. Yeah, come on, give me a

1345
01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:18,679
Speaker 1: Hollywood move Put me on a drone, around me around. Yeah. Yeah,

1346
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:23,120
Speaker 1: my little plaque on a drone. Fly it sideways so

1347
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:27,679
Speaker 1: that you know people see it, bramp Yeah, flying around.

1348
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 1: I love that. I'm ready to go, Ready to go.

1349
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:32,439
Speaker 1: This is Matt Rodgers. Don't think so many as time

1350
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,959
Speaker 1: starts now. I don't think so, honey. But death penalty, yeah,

1351
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:39,680
Speaker 1: we shouldn't have it. It shouldn't be up to us.

1352
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, because guess what it's costing

1353
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 1: us taxpayer dollars to say, let's put someone in the

1354
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 1: damn chair and hit the button. Bitch. I don't think

1355
01:20:49,880 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 1: so honey, because guess what, we're using good rope to

1356
01:20:53,040 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 1: hang these people. We can be using this rope for

1357
01:20:55,160 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 1: boxing rings. Get these men in jail, put them in there,

1358
01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:04,920
Speaker 1: put them rehabitlets it in the goddamn ring, goddamn ring.

1359
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:07,519
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey, that penalty. I am a

1360
01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 1: liberal goddess. I think that we should absolutely not be

1361
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:15,840
Speaker 1: killing men. And I have heard eye nine eye that's

1362
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:19,000
Speaker 1: the way they say no in Australia. Guess what I

1363
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 1: don't think, so, honey, the death penalty. Guess what if

1364
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 1: you killed someone you rotten, don't think about it for

1365
01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 1: the rest of your goddamn a life. I don't want

1366
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:28,960
Speaker 1: to see the light, girl, I don't want to see

1367
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 1: the light. Continue you to say in your eyes, you

1368
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:32,400
Speaker 1: know what you did? You think I what you did for?

1369
01:21:33,640 --> 01:21:38,320
Speaker 1: I don't think yes, Come on, wow, the energy. I

1370
01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:42,840
Speaker 1: loved the energy. Political fish, don't you think? And now,

1371
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:45,920
Speaker 1: actually I just got a text that lawmakers in Tennessee

1372
01:21:46,360 --> 01:21:52,520
Speaker 1: have changed their have reversed their position on what the abolished.

1373
01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:58,280
Speaker 1: Oh my god, they're not gonna do it anymore. Look, no,

1374
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:03,600
Speaker 1: that home when we stopped him, always stopped him. And

1375
01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:06,840
Speaker 1: we can't do. I took my daughter down there to

1376
01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:09,599
Speaker 1: the courthouse and I had her do it cheer and

1377
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:12,760
Speaker 1: it was about abolishing the death penalty, and she went,

1378
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:17,760
Speaker 1: D E A T H, let's abolish it. But she

1379
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:21,600
Speaker 1: didn't say, let's abolish it. And then they decided with

1380
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 1: the abolished death. Yeah, you're saying shit. I know she

1381
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:31,280
Speaker 1: said abolish it, but her out at that point they said,

1382
01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,120
Speaker 1: just get rid of her. Well, we're not going to

1383
01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:35,320
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, we don't want to hear her do

1384
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 1: it anymore. And her life. So I lost her her

1385
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:42,559
Speaker 1: life to spare all the others. They were like, we're

1386
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 1: going to take your life, honey, but unfortunately took her life.

1387
01:22:46,080 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 1: But she's she's a messiah. I feel really good about

1388
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:52,639
Speaker 1: my aunt. I feel really good. I think she's so proud.

1389
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 1: I feel great about yours. It's gonna make me feel

1390
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 1: awful about just now. You know that's my at least

1391
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:05,599
Speaker 1: savorite energy. Come on, James, James Anderson, my least favorite

1392
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 1: energy energy. Oh god, James, I think I think you

1393
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:14,880
Speaker 1: might have something. I'm going to try something. I'm realizing

1394
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:18,479
Speaker 1: that one minute is a long time. That's longer than

1395
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:20,840
Speaker 1: you think. But it's just long enough to get all

1396
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:24,439
Speaker 1: your thoughts. I'm thinking that content wise, I don't know

1397
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 1: what's going to happen, so maybe I should do it

1398
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:31,559
Speaker 1: as Marilyn Monroe. So I love that, so that there's

1399
01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:34,200
Speaker 1: something and you know, I don't have a great Marilyn Monroe,

1400
01:23:34,240 --> 01:23:36,639
Speaker 1: but it will make me feel like that. Honestly, Marilyn

1401
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,640
Speaker 1: Monroe had barely had a good Marilyn Honey there. She

1402
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:42,320
Speaker 1: was normal Jean in her real life and people don't

1403
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 1: know it's actually real culture number four, she was normal

1404
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 1: Gene in life. Marilyn Monroe was a character. Yes, that

1405
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:56,479
Speaker 1: was an affect. Actually she wrote poetry, did it was

1406
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:59,600
Speaker 1: good poetry as Norma Jeane, as Norma Jeane. But I

1407
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:01,800
Speaker 1: think it's under Marylyn Monroe. But I think it's from

1408
01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:03,880
Speaker 1: her heart. You know, it's from her heart. Actually love

1409
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:05,680
Speaker 1: Marilyn Monroe. Have you ever seen the movie In My

1410
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:09,960
Speaker 1: Week with Maryland? Michelle will isn't it? And she says,

1411
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:15,559
Speaker 1: she says to Eddie Redmaid, shall I be her? And

1412
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:23,479
Speaker 1: she says Maryland? And then she goes out in front

1413
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 1: of the press and she is Maryland. Amazing to great

1414
01:24:26,760 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 1: actress that Michelle Williams actually nuwelve, great actress, Michelle Get

1415
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,840
Speaker 1: ready for this, Get ready for this. We've got a

1416
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,920
Speaker 1: new Maryland iconic performance from James Anderson is. I don't

1417
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:40,920
Speaker 1: think so many time starts now, I didn't think so, Henny.

1418
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:44,320
Speaker 1: You may think it's cute to put something on the

1419
01:24:44,360 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 1: back of your toilet taint to decorate it, but I

1420
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 1: don't think so. The only thing that belongs there fresh

1421
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 1: flowers or maybe perhaps a crystal. Don't put some sort

1422
01:24:57,439 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 1: of what not scenario like straw or anything purus like

1423
01:25:03,439 --> 01:25:08,719
Speaker 1: you know, straw, jaws or yarn. Don't do that, because

1424
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:12,320
Speaker 1: when a lady sits to pippy, she has to think

1425
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 1: what is going on behind me? What is all this

1426
01:25:15,080 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 1: jump behind me? And then when a man stands to peek,

1427
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:24,839
Speaker 1: he could splatter on it, and that's no good. What

1428
01:25:25,800 --> 01:25:34,000
Speaker 1: I don't think about is that, so, Honey, really put

1429
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:37,760
Speaker 1: any sort of collection or doll or anything that can

1430
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:48,160
Speaker 1: gather dust and back your gelatic that was fully embodied.

1431
01:25:48,240 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 1: Oh good, it was Marylyn. Marilyn was here, Oh my god.

1432
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:56,759
Speaker 1: And honestly, I don't believe she would raise her voice

1433
01:25:56,760 --> 01:26:01,439
Speaker 1: more than that. I don't think so. No, she was no,

1434
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:05,559
Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh my God, that got me through

1435
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 1: it better than you know. I think that you made

1436
01:26:08,520 --> 01:26:11,000
Speaker 1: the right decision. I also think I can understand from

1437
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 1: her point of view why she wouldn't like it too.

1438
01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:15,879
Speaker 1: I can't say why. Well. I went to a coffee

1439
01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:19,360
Speaker 1: shop the other day and they had artificial flowers toilet

1440
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:23,400
Speaker 1: the toilet and it was covered in dust, thick layers

1441
01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 1: of dust. And I'm like m And you know what

1442
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:31,960
Speaker 1: it makes you think? If if these are dusty, right, anyone,

1443
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 1: anyone worth their salt who works there comes in and

1444
01:26:34,479 --> 01:26:36,439
Speaker 1: sees the flowers or dusty and cleans it. So that

1445
01:26:36,479 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 1: makes me think, how many times do they clean this breathroad?

1446
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,719
Speaker 1: So can't you just shake it off? Yeah? Right, pull

1447
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:48,439
Speaker 1: those dusty flowers out? Dusty flowers. That's my name, that's

1448
01:26:48,479 --> 01:26:51,919
Speaker 1: my drag name. I'm so happy we found dusty flowers.

1449
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:55,600
Speaker 1: I have diffused on my toilet. Is that okay? I

1450
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:58,080
Speaker 1: think anything like that is good. I think a good book,

1451
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:00,760
Speaker 1: not the Bible, well maybe the Bible. No, No, I

1452
01:27:00,800 --> 01:27:03,639
Speaker 1: think a nice Bible. Did you wipe your ass? No?

1453
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 1: Maybe not No, No book? Diffuse's okay, Candles okay, it's

1454
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:12,000
Speaker 1: a cent. Yeah. I think anything that makes you feel like, Oh,

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01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm in a clean spa. There you nothing that's like,

1456
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 1: you know, the like I don't know a nativity or

1457
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:23,320
Speaker 1: like or like a bunch of barbies, like having a conversation. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

1458
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:26,560
Speaker 1: I just have an entertainment weekly from No not, I

1459
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:30,160
Speaker 1: have a national inquirer from that, says Jennifer Addison ate

1460
01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:34,479
Speaker 1: her toe and that's what's on my toilet? Did Jennifer

1461
01:27:34,479 --> 01:27:38,160
Speaker 1: Addison eat her toes? Is this a real I wish

1462
01:27:38,200 --> 01:27:41,120
Speaker 1: it was? Did Brad Pitt is gay? Did Brad Pitt is?

1463
01:27:41,439 --> 01:27:47,439
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt is gay? George Cody Monster Drama? George Cody?

1464
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:52,520
Speaker 1: Yetty up in here? Yet? Up in here? Mark Helgenburger

1465
01:27:52,760 --> 01:27:55,960
Speaker 1: is a cake? You guys? This is live, right, this

1466
01:27:56,000 --> 01:27:58,200
Speaker 1: is live. This is live. This is beaming out two millions.

1467
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:01,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna take some We're gonna take some calls now, okay,

1468
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:05,879
Speaker 1: first call, Hello, Hi, how are you? I have a question?

1469
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:07,920
Speaker 1: Go ahead and ask where here was James Anderson, Bowen

1470
01:28:08,000 --> 01:28:10,519
Speaker 1: Yang and Matt Rogers. I have a question for Bowen

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01:28:10,600 --> 01:28:15,799
Speaker 1: and Matt. Sure what you're signs? We're both water signs.

1472
01:28:16,080 --> 01:28:18,680
Speaker 1: Can you guess? Are you an astrology person? Yes? I

1473
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 1: am okay, thank god, okay, so okay, water. We're both

1474
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:27,280
Speaker 1: water into an after I don't think something. I love that.

1475
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 1: It's sosive. That makes you're both Aquarius, you're both Pisces.

1476
01:28:33,800 --> 01:28:39,000
Speaker 1: I'm Pisces and you what's the less scorpio Scorpio? Mr

1477
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 1: Miss Julio Torres is an aquarius. You know who's a

1478
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:47,320
Speaker 1: Scorpio and who's the queen Scorpio is Miss Sudie Green Scorpions.

1479
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:52,719
Speaker 1: RuPaul herself is a Scorpio. I am Pisces, Pisces rising

1480
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:57,759
Speaker 1: cancer Moon. I'm water water water water. I started crying.

1481
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,439
Speaker 1: And it's kind of a homebody too, aren't you does

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01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:04,240
Speaker 1: At times I'm a little bit of home body when

1483
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 1: I when I'm I'm an extrovert and when I'm out,

1484
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:09,080
Speaker 1: I'm like out. But when I'm home, it's like it

1485
01:29:09,160 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 1: has to be you, like it to be your next Yeah, yeah,

1486
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:15,880
Speaker 1: what about you, miss thing? I am a liberal? Oh

1487
01:29:17,320 --> 01:29:21,479
Speaker 1: that tracks That means that you are measuring the scales.

1488
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:25,920
Speaker 1: It's stable and like measured and like just just I

1489
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 1: don't know, is that is that fair? Yeah? And like

1490
01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:32,000
Speaker 1: really good about listening to others and like weighing it

1491
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:34,720
Speaker 1: out for them, But I really wishy washy when it

1492
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 1: comes to our thing. You know, it's hard for me

1493
01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:40,920
Speaker 1: to figure anything out. What's your partner sign? He's cancer cancer,

1494
01:29:41,120 --> 01:29:44,720
Speaker 1: that's nice. Yeah, cancers are cancers are loving? Yeah, so

1495
01:29:44,760 --> 01:29:48,320
Speaker 1: you data water sign? Date married too? Yeah, married too.

1496
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:52,240
Speaker 1: You know you're rising in your moon? My rising is Sagittarius.

1497
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:55,320
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what my moon is. Great Sagittarius. If

1498
01:29:55,360 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 1: you're right, If you're rising Sagittarius, that's downward projecting out. Yeah,

1499
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:04,679
Speaker 1: co star. I mean it's also not great because they

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01:30:04,720 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 1: I guess they steal a lot from other astroll which

1501
01:30:07,479 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 1: one this app called Costar. But but our friend Joel

1502
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:11,679
Speaker 1: was telling me that it's like we've we talked about

1503
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:13,559
Speaker 1: this on the pod where it's like they're like the

1504
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:15,960
Speaker 1: fun Jerry of astrology where they just take other people's

1505
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 1: work and they just like, what about that app it's

1506
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:22,880
Speaker 1: called um oh shoot, somebody was talking, oh god, it

1507
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 1: was What does it do it? It gives you your

1508
01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:29,599
Speaker 1: day by day but um, all it does is take

1509
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 1: your your information like the time you were born, month, whatever.

1510
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:36,639
Speaker 1: But what who was it? There was no god? Who

1511
01:30:36,720 --> 01:30:40,040
Speaker 1: was in magic? Mike? What's the guy Tatum was talking

1512
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:42,240
Speaker 1: about it. I can't think of the name of it.

1513
01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:45,000
Speaker 1: It might be Costar. My horoscope today says, no need

1514
01:30:45,080 --> 01:30:51,080
Speaker 1: to be so polite. Oh, I haven't been ployed at all. Mindset, mindset,

1515
01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:52,559
Speaker 1: and so I opened my eyes today. I was like,

1516
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:57,320
Speaker 1: it's it's done. I mindset, take yourself to a movie today.

1517
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:01,240
Speaker 1: I was like, absolutely not. Tell nothing's out. Tell them

1518
01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:07,120
Speaker 1: hustlers doesn't come out yet. What did your say? Mine

1519
01:31:07,160 --> 01:31:12,200
Speaker 1: says snuck. It says don't snuck away from a situation,

1520
01:31:13,439 --> 01:31:16,080
Speaker 1: and it could mean so many things. A good snuck ing.

1521
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:19,960
Speaker 1: Maybe that's a good title of app A good snucking

1522
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:24,360
Speaker 1: Come on, we have that down hot producer Megan Megan

1523
01:31:24,439 --> 01:31:26,320
Speaker 1: than do you go? You go by Megan, not Megan

1524
01:31:27,160 --> 01:31:32,120
Speaker 1: Megan so commonly Megan's can go buy Meg Megan Meggie

1525
01:31:32,560 --> 01:31:37,880
Speaker 1: peg pag. Do you have a a nickname? Do you

1526
01:31:37,880 --> 01:31:41,200
Speaker 1: have a nickname? Megan? Your whole life? Okay? So what

1527
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:42,760
Speaker 1: do you think it was about the energy that you

1528
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:45,000
Speaker 1: brought into this space that they started calling you Meg?

1529
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 1: How would you do differently? Don't have that's not unheard

1530
01:31:48,439 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 1: to do anything differently? My horrorscope said, don't need to

1531
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:56,840
Speaker 1: be so polite for you. When have you done? Have

1532
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:59,400
Speaker 1: you done that? Yet? None of us are going to

1533
01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:01,880
Speaker 1: buy our horse. This is a serious question. Now, Like

1534
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:06,360
Speaker 1: when you're editing this, can you, um make my laugh

1535
01:32:07,320 --> 01:32:11,840
Speaker 1: sexy and deep? Um, there's sometimes I cackle. Can we

1536
01:32:11,880 --> 01:32:22,400
Speaker 1: do that? I cackle? Have let's just laugh one time? Yes? Okay,

1537
01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:27,080
Speaker 1: so take that and just make that sexy now. Um.

1538
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 1: I love James Anderson's law. This was Um. I have

1539
01:32:30,640 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 1: to say, what a joyous time to have you here.

1540
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:35,280
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. I was a little nervous, but

1541
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:39,839
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm very I you know, I it's

1542
01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:43,000
Speaker 1: the whole theater thing, you know, I for some reason

1543
01:32:43,160 --> 01:32:45,760
Speaker 1: chose that path when I left my house. But it's

1544
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:49,559
Speaker 1: like standing up in front of people and performing is

1545
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:55,080
Speaker 1: the most nerve wracking thing on the like when like okay,

1546
01:32:55,120 --> 01:32:57,280
Speaker 1: so we're not actually too but it's just like in

1547
01:32:57,320 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 1: the moment when you're about when you're when you're on

1548
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:01,960
Speaker 1: your way to do it. Oh, you know what the

1549
01:33:01,960 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 1: thing is because we do this so much like this

1550
01:33:04,000 --> 01:33:07,280
Speaker 1: is literally like the hundred episode of this podcast or whatever.

1551
01:33:07,360 --> 01:33:12,120
Speaker 1: This is my first podcast ever ever, literally so embarrassed

1552
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 1: for every other podcast have they asked, um No, I'm

1553
01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 1: sure that's fun. That's stupid crazy. I'm dragging all of

1554
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:23,400
Speaker 1: them now publicly. I think so embarrassed to be in

1555
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 1: this podcast community. I think any opportunity to sit down

1556
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:28,760
Speaker 1: and listen to James Anderson talk, I I think it's

1557
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 1: just I think it's just like what a what an

1558
01:33:30,520 --> 01:33:33,880
Speaker 1: embarrassment of riches for your mind? Well, I'll be for

1559
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 1: endom embarrassment and at an embarrassment, it's just humiliating and humiliating. No,

1560
01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 1: you're the would be very real and say that you actually,

1561
01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:48,200
Speaker 1: we're very important and our continue to be very important

1562
01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:51,720
Speaker 1: to um me like, and I'm sure bowen when we

1563
01:33:51,720 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 1: were younger watching watching US and Now, because it gave

1564
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:56,760
Speaker 1: us a time when we were to laugh at ship like,

1565
01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:59,120
Speaker 1: especially with something as mainstream as S and Now like,

1566
01:33:59,160 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 1: it was nice to be able to like join them

1567
01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:03,679
Speaker 1: with everybody and have that one and it feel real,

1568
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:05,639
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You know it was coming

1569
01:34:05,760 --> 01:34:08,439
Speaker 1: from Yeah, yeah, and that's good. I mean when I

1570
01:34:08,479 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 1: was younger, I always was looking for that, like, what

1571
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:15,559
Speaker 1: where is the gay voice in this? I I actually

1572
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:19,120
Speaker 1: found a bookstore that was selling a romance novel and

1573
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 1: it was by Gordon Merrick when I was in high school.

1574
01:34:22,479 --> 01:34:25,519
Speaker 1: I don't even know it was Gordon Merrick. And it

1575
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:27,640
Speaker 1: was in the religious section because the title of the

1576
01:34:27,640 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 1: book was The Lord Won't Mind. And I was so

1577
01:34:32,479 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 1: excited that it was in that section, so I thought,

1578
01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:37,680
Speaker 1: I felt like I could buy it, you know, and I,

1579
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 1: you know, I bought it, and I took it home.

1580
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:44,439
Speaker 1: I read through you know, you know, went through it

1581
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:46,680
Speaker 1: though really fast, and then I took it to the

1582
01:34:46,680 --> 01:34:50,320
Speaker 1: trash and I burned it. I burned the thing down

1583
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 1: because I didn't want my parents to find anything. Yeah,

1584
01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:55,680
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just during that time, it's so good

1585
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:57,800
Speaker 1: to have just like a little respite, if you will,

1586
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:01,920
Speaker 1: and like definitely like that through God. If you ever

1587
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:04,040
Speaker 1: can think about that and your stressful moments at work

1588
01:35:04,080 --> 01:35:06,400
Speaker 1: and you tube bitch. Well, I know there's some little

1589
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:08,320
Speaker 1: fag out there watching checks. Well, I just want to

1590
01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:11,799
Speaker 1: say really quickly because that story is, first of all,

1591
01:35:12,080 --> 01:35:14,600
Speaker 1: I meanwow, and second of all is reminding me that

1592
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 1: the first gay book I ever touched, like it was

1593
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:19,599
Speaker 1: it was at they had it at the Smokey Hill

1594
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:23,599
Speaker 1: Public Library, and it was this trashy, trashy book about

1595
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:25,240
Speaker 1: this guy who falls in love with a gay club

1596
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 1: owner and they whatever. But I I just throw it

1597
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:33,160
Speaker 1: into my mom's pile that day and I'm like, I

1598
01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:35,360
Speaker 1: want to check out this book. It's about um, you know,

1599
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 1: two guys who are friends. And she's like okay, and

1600
01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:43,679
Speaker 1: then she brings it over. I cannot be. I'm usually

1601
01:35:43,720 --> 01:35:47,439
Speaker 1: stating right next to her when we check out, and

1602
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:49,800
Speaker 1: I just I did not have anything to beat to

1603
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:53,000
Speaker 1: stand next to her while she exchanged and passed this

1604
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:55,679
Speaker 1: book over to to librarian who was scanning these books.

1605
01:35:56,640 --> 01:36:02,240
Speaker 1: What you okay? Great? So it was just this clear

1606
01:36:02,280 --> 01:36:06,920
Speaker 1: moment of shame when I was four shelves away, peeking past,

1607
01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:10,160
Speaker 1: like peeking over the shelf, watching this go down, because

1608
01:36:10,160 --> 01:36:13,840
Speaker 1: I was so afraid that this was like going to

1609
01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:16,599
Speaker 1: blow up in my face. But then the librarian sees

1610
01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:19,960
Speaker 1: the book and like glances over at my mom, gives

1611
01:36:19,960 --> 01:36:22,320
Speaker 1: her a weird look, and then like searches around, scans

1612
01:36:22,320 --> 01:36:24,479
Speaker 1: around the room, and locks eyes with me. And in

1613
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 1: that moment, I was like, fuck she was She knew

1614
01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 1: she knew that it was because because we we we

1615
01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:32,160
Speaker 1: went to this library all the time, and she knew

1616
01:36:32,200 --> 01:36:34,800
Speaker 1: to look for me, and she like found me and

1617
01:36:34,840 --> 01:36:37,920
Speaker 1: she was like, oh m hmmm, and it was this

1618
01:36:38,000 --> 01:36:40,960
Speaker 1: like deep deep, deep, deep deep moment of shame, and

1619
01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:42,640
Speaker 1: like it was like and I basically like went home

1620
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:45,040
Speaker 1: and read through the book, sped through the book in

1621
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:47,639
Speaker 1: like two days. And then yeah, I mean burn because

1622
01:36:47,640 --> 01:36:50,280
Speaker 1: I couldn't but I would. I would have. You just

1623
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:52,080
Speaker 1: didn't know how to make fire. I just didn't know

1624
01:36:52,120 --> 01:36:54,760
Speaker 1: how to make fire. And then that librarian is the

1625
01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 1: only person I think should get the death mental for

1626
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:02,240
Speaker 1: the trauma, for the trauma it anyway anyway, but it's

1627
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:04,160
Speaker 1: like it's like, I mean, you know, you grew up

1628
01:37:04,200 --> 01:37:06,439
Speaker 1: in like when you grow up and you like truly

1629
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:09,040
Speaker 1: like cannot bring yourself to like openly like the things

1630
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:12,559
Speaker 1: that you want to like terrible, terrible. You need these

1631
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:16,759
Speaker 1: moments and anyway, James, who make you happy? But James,

1632
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:18,880
Speaker 1: James would give us these moments that like we could

1633
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:21,479
Speaker 1: openly love because it was being seen and embraced by

1634
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:24,520
Speaker 1: everyone else. And that's what that that's what's important. That's

1635
01:37:24,520 --> 01:37:26,800
Speaker 1: like the case for mainstreaming something. I know people are like,

1636
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:30,880
Speaker 1: but it's it's the case for and James is I

1637
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:32,960
Speaker 1: mean just what I what I meant to say earlier

1638
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:35,120
Speaker 1: was the opportunity to sit down with James and just

1639
01:37:35,160 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 1: hear him talk about anything as I think, like very

1640
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 1: very very special and I love it. Every time you

1641
01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:41,960
Speaker 1: walk into my damn office, I'm like, what have I

1642
01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:46,760
Speaker 1: done to deserve James? Anyway? This one, this one, this one.

1643
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:50,680
Speaker 1: We love you, unlucky readers, lucky readers, very lucky at home.

1644
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:53,760
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for every episode with a song.

1645
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:55,240
Speaker 1: We had every episode with a song. Here we go,

1646
01:37:55,280 --> 01:38:07,800
Speaker 1: wonderful shim life, life, Take me forward because I'll never

1647
01:38:08,160 --> 01:38:23,360
Speaker 1: change oh my cover. This has been a Forever Dog

1648
01:38:23,360 --> 01:38:28,720
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1649
01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:33,400
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1651
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