Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, this is the point of its strength rand
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Speaker 1: how are you doing today? Buddy?
Speaker 3: The chat stir is doing just fine. A little tired,
Speaker 3: but I'm here ready to get going.
Speaker 1: You're still hungover from last week's big New Year's just
Speaker 1: a tad.
Speaker 3: But the sunglasses are fully cocked on the top of
Speaker 3: my head, which means it's up your tide.
Speaker 1: They should be on your face cover the tiredness.
Speaker 3: I wouldn't know. It's button depressive. I've put them all
Speaker 3: the way down.
Speaker 1: Dar, isn't it?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Oh man, So what's going on? How's a twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four treating you?
Speaker 3: So far, so far, so good? Can't complain in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four? Was waiting for that calendar change? Yeah, and
Speaker 3: I can't complain so far.
Speaker 2: I was hyping myself up this morning. I was like
Speaker 2: doing a self motivation thing. I'm like, you know, this
Speaker 2: was all in my brain, not how loud, so don't
Speaker 2: think I'm a weirdo.
Speaker 1: But I was like.
Speaker 2: Sitting there and I'm just like I think this is
Speaker 2: gonna be my year. I think I'm gonna work my
Speaker 2: ass off, I'm gonna make a ton of money.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to travel, I'm gonna get to do
Speaker 1: stuff with the kids and the husband, and it's just.
Speaker 2: Going to be a really good year because last year
Speaker 2: wasn't so good. Last year was a lot of stress,
Speaker 2: and my goal for this year is to just be
Speaker 2: as stress free as it possibly can and to just
Speaker 2: live life to the fullest and have a good time.
Speaker 2: Because you know, I'm gonna be fifty two next month,
Speaker 2: like half my life is over.
Speaker 1: The glass is half empty, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So I just made it a point to tell myself, hey,
Speaker 2: we're just gonna work our ass off and have a
Speaker 2: good time. And that's what I'm doing. That's my uh,
Speaker 2: that's my goal for twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Sit.
Speaker 3: I like to think that the glass is half full.
Speaker 1: You do.
Speaker 2: And I'm more of a pessimist where you're Maya, You're
Speaker 2: the yin to my yang.
Speaker 1: You're the optimist. I'm the pessimist.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: It's funny because I really needed, personally needed that calendar
Speaker 3: to change. So I hate people that say, oh, it's
Speaker 3: just you know, it's it doesn't mean anything, and that's
Speaker 3: just another day. And oh you know, New Year's Day
Speaker 3: was just Monday that Yeah I saw that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw Kevin's tweet, and I was just like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm kinda thinking New Year knew me.
Speaker 3: Yes, I reset. I completely use it as a reset.
Speaker 3: I think that it's if you have something that is
Speaker 3: not really like going your way or is not favorable,
Speaker 3: and you need something that's a little bit of a
Speaker 3: push in the right direction. Use a New Year as
Speaker 3: that hump, use it as that push. And I am
Speaker 3: one of those people that will absolutely take a goal,
Speaker 3: set it, and I use twenty twenty four as that
Speaker 3: launching pad is you know what, I set some goals
Speaker 3: and that first day of the year was the beginning
Speaker 3: of a.
Speaker 2: New I like to hear that, Yeah, I'm I'm going
Speaker 2: to be more positive this year.
Speaker 1: So when I'm not positive, you kick me in my
Speaker 1: ass and you.
Speaker 2: Say, listen, lady, you said you were going to be
Speaker 2: positive and not negative.
Speaker 1: That's that's what I want to be, so try. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so let's do that.
Speaker 2: But today we have another follow up to a show,
Speaker 2: What did we do about a month, three weeks ago.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we did November twenty eighth.
Speaker 1: Wow, okay, so it's been a month.
Speaker 2: We're gonna do the second part because we had a
Speaker 2: lot of people respond and I wanted to finish it up.
Speaker 2: So we're going to do the second part to ask
Speaker 2: me almost anything. And again the almost is in there
Speaker 2: because you should see what some people have asked me
Speaker 2: in the past. It's not very nice, it's not very
Speaker 2: good sometimes, but some people are respectful and those are
Speaker 2: the questions that we're going to conquer. So you're ready, Yeah,
Speaker 2: whenever you're ready, you can start shooting them at me
Speaker 2: and I'll answer.
Speaker 1: Them the best I can.
Speaker 3: Sure. Yeah. And actually what was great about it too
Speaker 3: is not only do we get the Twitter submissions from
Speaker 3: the first initial push, but under the postings of the
Speaker 3: YouTube preview for the episode, we got more. So there's
Speaker 3: some fresh questions as well as the ones that were
Speaker 3: originally submitted. So thank you to everybody that contributed to
Speaker 3: the pile, if you will. So I'm gonna grab one
Speaker 3: out of here and let's see what we got. This
Speaker 3: one is from at Samo Rosco two thousand and two.
Speaker 3: What are some of your favorite movies and TV shows.
Speaker 2: Wow, well again, I think we might have answered this before.
Speaker 2: My favorite movie of all time is nineteen sixty eight
Speaker 2: Romeo and Juliet.
Speaker 1: Love It, love it, love it, Love it. I tend
Speaker 1: to like comedies because you know, I like to laugh,
Speaker 1: romance I like. I like some romantic movies as well,
Speaker 1: but comedies are my favorite. Anything that has to do with.
Speaker 2: The vacation movies, Chevy Chase, like hilarious, love those things.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just stuff that's funny. TV shows.
Speaker 2: I tended to watch a lot of reality television, so
Speaker 2: I love things like Big Brother, Survivor, The Challenge right now.
Speaker 2: I'm watching The Challenge right now on MTV.
Speaker 1: Just finished up Survivor.
Speaker 2: My DVR was so full, like with all of like
Speaker 2: it said, you have five episodes of Amazing Race. I'd
Speaker 2: finished up Amazing Race as well. I had so many
Speaker 2: episodes because I was so behind and I'd just been
Speaker 2: watched like everything in order.
Speaker 1: So now I'm all caught up.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I love reality television. Now I'm not really
Speaker 2: into like the Desperate Housewives. Maybe I would be, I've
Speaker 2: never sat down and watched them. They might be entertaining,
Speaker 2: but I tend to do the shows where there are
Speaker 2: physical challenges because I like to see people work for
Speaker 2: their money.
Speaker 3: Yes, I never I never got into any of those shows.
Speaker 3: I watched the original run of like the Real World
Speaker 3: back in the day. I love those, Yeah, you know
Speaker 3: they whenever a new Real World came on, they'd you
Speaker 3: run the older you know, maybe like the first two
Speaker 3: or three seasons. So I'd watch those. But then like
Speaker 3: road Rules, I never got into any of those.
Speaker 1: Oh I loved road Rules.
Speaker 3: Never never run into them.
Speaker 1: The challenge came from those shows.
Speaker 2: It spoiled from those shows, and I don't know, I
Speaker 2: just I enjoy it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting. I never got into it, but now
Speaker 3: I will piggyback off of I do love the Vacation franchise.
Speaker 3: I do love those movies. Where would you say you
Speaker 3: rank them quickly? Out of the first let's just go
Speaker 3: with the first four. You got, you got, so you got.
Speaker 3: Hang on, I'm gonna send to name them. You got Vacation, European,
Speaker 3: Christmas in Vegas.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Christmas is number one.
Speaker 2: Okay, I feel like, uh, the Wally World, Yeah, but
Speaker 2: that's close to Christmas now because that one was really
Speaker 2: good too.
Speaker 1: I might have to tie those.
Speaker 2: I think that Vegas might be no, European might be last,
Speaker 2: Vegas might be third.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that's kind of a toss up.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're still funny, but they kind of
Speaker 2: get to the point of they start changing the kids around. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a little weird, but the first two, I mean
Speaker 2: just classics.
Speaker 1: Like I can watch it one hundred times over and
Speaker 1: not be bored, you know.
Speaker 3: So funny.
Speaker 2: The reboot, yeah, I think I did or parts of it,
Speaker 2: and I was just.
Speaker 3: Like, eh, hot garbage.
Speaker 2: You can't fix, Like, what's not broken, don't fix it.
Speaker 2: If it ain't broken, or if it ain't broke, don't
Speaker 2: fix it. That's what the thing is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's people. I think it's just the money grab.
Speaker 2: People are trying to just earn off of classics and
Speaker 2: sometimes it just doesn't work.
Speaker 3: Hot garbage, I'll say it again. So bad Ed Helms,
Speaker 3: I mean funny on the Office. Yeah, you cannot put
Speaker 3: that guy in a lead role. He is just he
Speaker 3: is not a strong lead actor. Just the wrong movie
Speaker 3: for him. No, he's he's the side guy. He We
Speaker 3: watched a Christmas movie that he was the lead in
Speaker 3: with Jennifer Garner as his wife. It's so bad, you know.
Speaker 2: Speaking this is just speaking of being bad. The backlash
Speaker 2: that the poor gentleman that played Rick Flair in the
Speaker 2: Iron Claw guy.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he made a statement did you see me?
Speaker 3: Really?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah?
Speaker 2: And he apologized if you don't like my Rick Flair,
Speaker 2: but he said he did the best that he could.
Speaker 1: I guess he saw.
Speaker 2: Everybody's like negative comments, because there was not one positive
Speaker 2: review for this guy.
Speaker 1: And he just came out and stood up for himself.
Speaker 2: And you know, I acted it the best that I could,
Speaker 2: and I don't know, I.
Speaker 3: Was like, wow, yeah, it's it's funny. I don't think
Speaker 3: it was necessarily that his acting was bad, because I
Speaker 3: like the way he delivered the dialogue. I think it's
Speaker 3: just that he looked really bad and he was super skinny.
Speaker 1: So I saw the clip.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I watched the clip after all the chatter was
Speaker 3: going on about it. But I liked the way they
Speaker 3: shot it, and I like the way that the promo
Speaker 3: was being delivered. I just think that he was poorly
Speaker 3: constructed and put together by the the you know, the
Speaker 3: the design team and yeah, the wardrobe department.
Speaker 1: It's a shame. I felt bad for the guy.
Speaker 3: I was like, wow, you know, and he didn't sound
Speaker 3: like you know. But what again, This is the hard
Speaker 3: part about doing a very specific genre film. You're going
Speaker 3: to pick it apart, very very very stringently. The Wrestler
Speaker 3: was so well done that you couldn't pick it apart
Speaker 3: that much because they weren't using real people. They weren't
Speaker 3: using characters.
Speaker 1: That came of them to Yeah, it was an original character.
Speaker 3: Right, so you know. The only thing they used that
Speaker 3: was real in The Wrestler, I believe was r oh.
Speaker 3: They used the backdrop of R O H. So you know,
Speaker 3: you're using characters we know and have gotten to love
Speaker 3: over the years.
Speaker 1: That was a great movie, by the way.
Speaker 3: The Wrestler. Oh love the Wrestler.
Speaker 1: That was a really good movie. Very sad, yeah, they crossing,
Speaker 1: but very good. So I might have to pull that
Speaker 1: up again.
Speaker 3: Did you see that in theaters at the time.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I don't see anything in theaters.
Speaker 3: I don't know. It was pre kids, you know, no
Speaker 3: solid at home. Do you remember the chatter at the
Speaker 3: time about The Wrestler. Was there a lot of talk
Speaker 3: within the business and in your circles about it?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean people thought it was a great movie, but
Speaker 2: a lot of us took a step back and was like,
Speaker 2: you know, ten years from now, is that going to
Speaker 2: be me?
Speaker 1: Because it doesn't last forever. And that's the point of
Speaker 1: the movie.
Speaker 2: You know, one day you're hot and you're twenty something
Speaker 2: and you're running the territories and you have a full
Speaker 2: time gig with a company, and you know, you find
Speaker 2: yourself on top of the world.
Speaker 1: And I said it so many times. You're a rock star.
Speaker 2: You're untouchable, and then you lose your job, that things
Speaker 2: don't go your way, and you go back to the indies,
Speaker 2: and at first you're making really good money because.
Speaker 1: You're fresh off TV, and then it starts to taper.
Speaker 2: Down a little bit, and then you might lose that
Speaker 2: you know, uh, hotness that you once had, and then
Speaker 2: you struggle.
Speaker 1: You try to get booking. Some of us do really well.
Speaker 2: And some of us don't, you know, and then it's
Speaker 2: like you say to yourself, is this something I still
Speaker 2: can do? Or do I need to go into the
Speaker 2: real world and get a job. That's what guys struggle
Speaker 2: with because most of these guys, for thirty, forty, even
Speaker 2: fifty years of their life. They didn't have a job
Speaker 2: where they had to report nine to five every day,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. It's like it wasn't structured.
Speaker 2: Do you make your own schedule when you're a professional
Speaker 2: wrestler and you're not signed with the company.
Speaker 1: So it's like it.
Speaker 2: Made you think about your future and what you don't
Speaker 2: want to happen. Because I will never sit at a
Speaker 2: table like that and have one guy come up and
Speaker 2: get my autograph, Like if that ever happened, that.
Speaker 1: Tells me I need to stop. I need to hang
Speaker 1: it up.
Speaker 3: In my That's what I think that scene, you know,
Speaker 3: I think was grossly exaggerated with that convention in that
Speaker 3: VFW hall with the guy with this I don't like
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 2: I don't because I've seen place that looked like that.
Speaker 2: I've seen places that looked like that. I've seen promoters
Speaker 2: try to make something out of nothing. They never advertised
Speaker 2: and no one shows up, and it's like, well I
Speaker 2: put a post on Facebook. Oh digit waitat great advertising there,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And it's just everybody's walking
Speaker 2: around doing nothing. You know, they got all like the
Speaker 2: one show that I went to, it wasn't even a
Speaker 2: wrestling con. It was like an eighties type of con
Speaker 2: and it was in Pennsylvania and I went there and
Speaker 2: it was all stars. That was where Gary Busey came
Speaker 2: over to my table and was eating a donut and
Speaker 2: just chomping on this donut and dropping all these crumbs
Speaker 2: all over my table and my pictures. I wanted to
Speaker 2: kill them, but they had big eighties stars there and
Speaker 2: the guy from a league of their own. It was
Speaker 2: I have no Corbin Burnson. He was in Major league. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he was walking around like there was nothing. There was
Speaker 2: nothing going on because nobody was there.
Speaker 1: And I think I might have sold I don't know,
Speaker 1: ten autographs. There was no one there. Wow.
Speaker 2: And I said to myself, well, this isn't my fault
Speaker 2: because number one, I'm like this, this is a this
Speaker 2: isn't a wrestling convention. And we were told the guy
Speaker 2: never promoted it. There was no promotion whatsoever.
Speaker 1: So everybody was literally just sitting there just either talking
Speaker 1: to talent or on their phones. The cops came. They
Speaker 1: almost the arrest of Gary Bucy. There was a fight.
Speaker 1: It was a mess. It was a mess.
Speaker 2: But no, I've seen conventions that were really bad. And
Speaker 2: I was told about conventions that I wasn't at that
Speaker 2: were really really bad. So like, I don't like, who
Speaker 2: do you blame? Do you blame the promoter if there
Speaker 2: wasn't enough advertising, or if they did advertise, do you
Speaker 2: blame the talent for not drawing?
Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of.
Speaker 2: It's a slippery slope when you get to that point
Speaker 2: of your career and it's just like if you see
Speaker 2: no one come up to your table anymore, it's pretty
Speaker 2: much a telltale, like you're pretty.
Speaker 1: Much done right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's sad. How about the rumors of who the
Speaker 3: wrestler was about? Did you ever hear any No?
Speaker 1: I never heard that it was based on one particular
Speaker 1: person at all.
Speaker 3: Speculation over the years. Some people said, possibly, you know,
Speaker 3: Roddy Piper was a basis for the character. Others said
Speaker 3: maybe Greg Valentine was an inspiration for the character, but well, Piper.
Speaker 2: Would always have a crowd, so that I can't believe
Speaker 2: it would be based on Piper.
Speaker 1: And didn't you have a wife?
Speaker 3: Well yeah, but I think more like the attitude of.
Speaker 2: The well, if you look at it that way, but
Speaker 2: I mean the loneliness and the the desperation of still
Speaker 2: wanting to be in the spotlight, but being you know,
Speaker 2: a sixty something year old.
Speaker 1: I think that's what he was, wasn't he He was
Speaker 1: up there, he was getting there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that I can't contribute to Piper because Piper,
Speaker 2: Piper will draw a crowd if he was one hundred. Yeah,
Speaker 2: everybody wanted Piper's autograph. This guy, you know, it was
Speaker 2: just sad. He was just trying to hang on to
Speaker 2: any little bit of glory that he had. And it
Speaker 2: really makes you think, you know, and I think about
Speaker 2: that every day. I'm like, man, when I get to
Speaker 2: that point, that's when I say to myself, I'm just
Speaker 2: gonna stay. I'm gonna just hang it up. So I
Speaker 2: don't think I'm there yet, but I think I have
Speaker 2: a little.
Speaker 1: Bit of time left.
Speaker 3: Those Yeah, don't never understimate those ECW fans. They'll keep everybody,
Speaker 3: especially this April. That's right, All right, let's go back
Speaker 3: to the question. Since here I've got Samuel Johnson at
Speaker 3: Samuel three seven zero one three four four one to
Speaker 3: the exact in your opinion, where did Vince McMahon go
Speaker 3: wrong with promoting Bam Bam Bigelow?
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I couldn't even tell you. Stephen Nue
Speaker 2: just sent me a text message. So I feel like
Speaker 2: Bam Bam to me is a main eventor Bam Bam
Speaker 2: is a guy that I always thought could do it all.
Speaker 2: We've talked about Bam Bam because I've worked with him
Speaker 2: very closely for years. For a big guy, he would
Speaker 2: float across that ring. He never got winded. He was
Speaker 2: so athletic, and he was a team player. Whatever you
Speaker 2: need it from him. From what I saw in ECW,
Speaker 2: he would do. I never saw him complain. I never
Speaker 2: saw trying politic.
Speaker 1: He was just.
Speaker 2: A team player. He was a guy that you wanted
Speaker 2: on your squad. The Lawrence Taylor thing is the one
Speaker 2: that keeps popping in my head, Like everybody says, oh
Speaker 2: they did him dirty with Lawrence Taylor.
Speaker 1: He did business. You know, he went in there, he
Speaker 1: made him shine, he put him over, He did the
Speaker 1: right thing. I don't know what happened with him in
Speaker 1: that company that.
Speaker 2: Stopped him from ever reaching that main event championship status.
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you.
Speaker 2: I just know that the Bam Bam that I knew
Speaker 2: was a lovely soul who worked hard and did anything
Speaker 2: he could uh for his company.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, absolutely. And if you want to read stories
Speaker 3: or hear stories about why Bam Bam might not have
Speaker 3: attained some of those main event status is that you
Speaker 3: think he should have just go talk to the guy
Speaker 3: who runs that next tea. Now, there might be something
Speaker 3: behind that, because it was very documented that the Click
Speaker 3: held Bam Bam back and I just know why. I yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know why either, because you know, there's there's
Speaker 3: a couple of things that have been pointed out over time. Obviously,
Speaker 3: Vince liked Bam Bam because he picked Bam Bam to
Speaker 3: work with Lawrence Taylor and put him in that main
Speaker 3: event spot at WrestleMania. He could have picked anybody he
Speaker 3: could have picked. He could have picked Rick Martell, he
Speaker 3: could have picked anyone. But they the Click singled out
Speaker 3: Bam Bam for some reason to not want him to
Speaker 3: be part of the plan, I guess, And they didn't
Speaker 3: necessarily want to get rid of him, but they didn't
Speaker 3: want him in that top picture. And Bam Bam, you know,
Speaker 3: he wasn't a big fan of them either, and he
Speaker 3: did not work out with that group, so he didn't last.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of stories about the click holding people.
Speaker 2: It's just is it based off of jealousy? You know,
Speaker 2: it's like keeping the spot for themselves.
Speaker 1: I don't know, man. All I know is Bam Bam
Speaker 1: was a pleasure to work with.
Speaker 2: And even though he broke my pelvis, that was a
Speaker 2: complete accident, but he was a delight and he was
Speaker 2: so good at what he did and I miss him
Speaker 2: and I love him, and I just feel like I
Speaker 2: think Paul made him shine in ECW, and I think
Speaker 2: he deserved that and he was proud of that and
Speaker 2: he was proud to be a part of our locker room.
Speaker 3: Yeah. So I'm just when I remember seeing him there,
Speaker 3: I know he jumped in for a cup of coffee
Speaker 3: here and there, you know, before he landed back in
Speaker 3: ninety seven. But like when you saw that he was
Speaker 3: staying as a fan, You're like, Wow, that's really cool
Speaker 3: that Bam Bam Bigelow is in ECW.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great.
Speaker 3: Kai, All right, here we go. How about this one
Speaker 3: we have Scott. Did you enjoy working with Just Incredible
Speaker 3: and any favorite moments or matches with him?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: I loved working with Just Incredible. I feel like PJ
Speaker 2: and I clicked right away. It was a similar connection
Speaker 2: to what I had with Shane, and.
Speaker 1: Working with him, I got to.
Speaker 2: Not master, but I got to like really amp up
Speaker 2: my mic work because Paul let me be his mouthpiece
Speaker 2: for a lot of segments.
Speaker 1: And I feel my.
Speaker 2: Character, although I still feel like Shane and I together
Speaker 2: were like the perfect on screen couple, but I feel
Speaker 2: like my character grew so.
Speaker 1: Much with PJ in a sense of me just.
Speaker 2: Being more vocal, being more of like a dominant female
Speaker 2: on the microphone, because I didn't get that with Shane.
Speaker 1: I never really got to talk.
Speaker 2: Shane was so good at his craft and so good
Speaker 2: speaking wise, he never really needed me to talk. PJ
Speaker 2: was good, but just Paul felt like he needed that
Speaker 2: little umph and let me shine on the microphone more so.
Speaker 2: And I really got comfortable because in the beginning I
Speaker 2: was petrified at the mic. I was always afraid I
Speaker 2: was gonna mess up and blah blah blah, blah blah.
Speaker 2: And I just feel like towards the end is where
Speaker 2: I finally got into my groove and I cut some
Speaker 2: really good promos. I feel but him and I working
Speaker 2: together was great. He was so over as a heel
Speaker 2: and I just feel like putting me with him just
Speaker 2: added to that, uh meaning they just hated us even
Speaker 2: more and the whole you know, you don't have the belt,
Speaker 2: you don't have me kind of thing. It kind of worked.
Speaker 2: So Yeah, I loved working with him. He was great,
Speaker 2: and I asked for like, like one of the most
Speaker 2: memorable matches, the one that keeps popping in my head
Speaker 2: all the time, is when we worked to Jerry, and
Speaker 2: I think we watched it years ago. It was like
Speaker 2: a two on one more so than just like I
Speaker 2: had a spot and that was it. Like I was
Speaker 2: in and out of that ring forty two times.
Speaker 1: It was just such.
Speaker 2: A good match. And I got a lot of accolades
Speaker 2: for that one because I just kept trying to help
Speaker 2: him over and over and it wasn't just once, it
Speaker 2: was like three or four times. And then I took
Speaker 2: the miss and uh, you know, we went under the
Speaker 2: ring and I got choked down and I almost went
Speaker 2: through a table.
Speaker 1: And it was there was so much action in it.
Speaker 2: It was like a double team on to Jerry and
Speaker 2: to Jery was great about it, and that match just
Speaker 2: always stands out in my head.
Speaker 1: It was so fun to do.
Speaker 3: That's a good one. Yeah, we did watch that years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was a lot of fun.
Speaker 3: So all right, how about this one, Thomas J One
Speaker 3: one eight three. This is a great one. How about
Speaker 3: this Hypothetically, if you were forced to leave ECW in
Speaker 3: the mid to late nineties and had both WWF and
Speaker 3: WCW offering you similar contracts to jump ship, which company
Speaker 3: do you think you would have chosen the WWS Attitude
Speaker 3: era or WCW's nWo era.
Speaker 2: Well, it would have been the wrong choice, but I
Speaker 2: would have probably chose WCW.
Speaker 1: And we all know it would have.
Speaker 2: Been the wrong choice because they went under right after
Speaker 2: we did. But they were throwing money at guys like crazy,
Speaker 2: like big, big, big amounts of money. My friends were
Speaker 2: going there. A lot of my friends left ECW to
Speaker 2: go to WCW, So I would have had a little
Speaker 2: group already there that I could have hung out with.
Speaker 2: And I was a huge nWo mark. I loved the nWo.
Speaker 2: I never was into DX. That wasn't my thing. DX
Speaker 2: to me was childish and locker room teenage, locker room humor,
Speaker 2: whereas like the nWo was just cool and edgy, and
Speaker 2: that got me and I loved everything that they did
Speaker 2: until they started doing different factions with the nWo that
Speaker 2: kind of took away from the original concept of it.
Speaker 2: But man, I loved them so much and I enjoyed
Speaker 2: watching it as a fan. So I think I would
Speaker 2: have went with WCW and I would have lost my
Speaker 2: job a year later.
Speaker 3: That's too funny. I could see you in the nWo
Speaker 3: as like the nWo babe, you know, like somebody.
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Like when Miss Elizabeth went there and she
Speaker 2: started like getting more physical, I was like, yes, finally,
Speaker 2: because you know, don't get me wrong, Elizabeth is a
Speaker 2: staple and professional wrestling, but she always played the like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, like she didn't really do much. She
Speaker 2: was the beautiful side piece to Randy Savage. She was
Speaker 2: a great character, so to speak, because you know, she
Speaker 2: was the one that they were fighting over. She was
Speaker 2: always the one, uh in the middle of the controversy.
Speaker 2: But she never really bumped and she never really talked.
Speaker 1: She didn't do much. And if I get backlash for that,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but look look at her work.
Speaker 2: Like she she was always the like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: poor beat kind of damsel in distress. Right when she
Speaker 2: went with the nWo and started doing stuff. I was
Speaker 2: just like, that is what I've been waiting for from
Speaker 2: this woman for years because I knew she had it
Speaker 2: in her. But I guess the powers that be just
Speaker 2: didn't want her to go that route, you know. And
Speaker 2: as good as she was playing the damsel, I thought
Speaker 2: she shined in the nWo. I loved seeing her more physical,
Speaker 2: you know that. That just made my day and and
Speaker 2: it just made me just I loved her before, but
Speaker 2: I loved.
Speaker 1: Her even more when she was in the nWo, even
Speaker 1: more when she was when she was with Savage Great.
Speaker 2: But when she was in the nWo, I thought she
Speaker 2: shined and I loved her.
Speaker 3: She was wearing you know, like the lower cut outfits
Speaker 3: and leather and I.
Speaker 2: Know that, yeah, she wore I remember she wore like
Speaker 2: these shiny leatherish pants black and she had like a
Speaker 2: sparkly T shirt. Looks so cute because you always saw
Speaker 2: her in dresses like you never saw her and then
Speaker 2: she would come out with the little nWo shirt and
Speaker 2: then she I think like she slapped somebody and then
Speaker 2: she like jumped on somebody.
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, I love this, miss Elizabeth, Like
Speaker 1: this is what I'm waiting for because I love when
Speaker 1: the girls get physical.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So they used her in the beginning of the storyline.
Speaker 3: They used her as like a huge pawn in the
Speaker 3: in like the you know, mind games aspect of you
Speaker 3: don't know who's gonna turn next, Like, yeah, she was
Speaker 3: a huge part. But I could see if you went there,
Speaker 3: they'd use you in like the you know, seductress role,
Speaker 3: and they'd put you in like I could see them.
Speaker 3: I could literally see you with the Outsiders. That's where
Speaker 3: I could see you. If you were in the nWo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would have been.
Speaker 2: That would have been a dream because they were like
Speaker 2: one of my favorite factions.
Speaker 1: So man, what could have been?
Speaker 2: But it would have been a disaster again because with
Speaker 2: w UWE or f at the time, whoever they were,
Speaker 2: would they have bought my contract out? Would I have
Speaker 2: went over to them, like, you don't know what could
Speaker 2: have happened?
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2: And meanwhile what happened was I just went to the
Speaker 2: indies and was making a hell of a lot of
Speaker 2: money that first couple of years back because you know,
Speaker 2: again they pay once you're off TV, does ind snatch
Speaker 2: you up and they pay you tons of money?
Speaker 1: To come to their shows, and it was great.
Speaker 3: Interesting. Now these next two questions will be kind of
Speaker 3: back to back, semi connected. This first one asked any
Speaker 3: negative interactions with fans during your original ECW run.
Speaker 1: Yeah, plenty.
Speaker 2: All the fans who touched me, punched me, kicked me,
Speaker 2: spit on me was a negative interaction. And I've discussed
Speaker 2: those several times. Call me whatever you want. I said
Speaker 2: it too many. You can call me any name in
Speaker 2: the book. I don't care.
Speaker 1: Don't touch us.
Speaker 2: And for a fan to take liberties and reach over
Speaker 2: that guardrail and think it's okay to grab a woman
Speaker 2: by the hair or punch her in the face, which
Speaker 2: I've been sucker punched before, or.
Speaker 1: Lean over and rip my dress off me. That's happened before.
Speaker 1: You know who gave you permission to put your hands
Speaker 1: on me? And why would you want to put your
Speaker 1: hands on me. I never understood that it's okay if
Speaker 1: you hate me. Just keep in mind, I playing a character.
Speaker 1: Number one. You know some of these people think it's real.
Speaker 1: I'm playing a character. But if I didn't lean over
Speaker 1: and punch you or spit on you, why do you
Speaker 1: have the audacity to punch me? What gives you the
Speaker 1: right to touch me?
Speaker 3: Yeah, shouldn't.
Speaker 2: And that's what pissed me off, Like that's what makes
Speaker 2: you know, performing in front of a live crowd not enjoyable.
Speaker 2: Stuff like that, And when that happened, morale goes down,
Speaker 2: you lose time in your match.
Speaker 1: It just makes you pissed off and you.
Speaker 2: Lose your timing, like like you know, you just wasted
Speaker 2: three minutes trying to get somebody kicked out of the building.
Speaker 2: Especially if you're on a pay per view, you only
Speaker 2: have so many minutes to work and if you go long,
Speaker 2: you screw somebody else out.
Speaker 1: Of their match, so you have to cut your match short.
Speaker 1: So anytime stuff like that happened, it would piss me off,
Speaker 1: like keep your hands to yourself and they deserve to
Speaker 1: be thrown out of the building. Well I paid a ticket,
Speaker 1: Well then don't touch me, simple as that.
Speaker 3: One of the rules of your ticket purchase.
Speaker 1: Use your brain. That's the one thing I never understand. Good.
Speaker 1: It was these guys, and it was guys right.
Speaker 2: Ninety nine percent of the time I got hit by men,
Speaker 2: which blew my mind.
Speaker 1: It's like, really, look at me, why why are you
Speaker 1: gonna hit me?
Speaker 2: You know, it wasn't like I did a snot rocket like.
Speaker 1: Like Shane would do, like you would do? Was snot rocket?
Speaker 2: Or take somebody's Yeah, take somebody's shirt or you know,
Speaker 2: blow your ear. I didn't touch these people, and I
Speaker 2: wouldn't touch these people, but for some reason they would
Speaker 2: touch me and I did not appreciate it and I
Speaker 2: did not enjoy it, and I would call that a
Speaker 2: bad interaction.
Speaker 3: That was the question was asked by at B, three
Speaker 3: A and R. The follow up underneath it, did any
Speaker 3: of them have you ever seen an instance where something
Speaker 3: happened to yourself or another female performer early in the night,
Speaker 3: and then later on you saw one of the boys
Speaker 3: and act revenge on the perpetrator as the night went on,
Speaker 3: and they they found the person that might have hit
Speaker 3: the girl or hit the other performer and maybe knocked
Speaker 3: them while they're going through the crowd.
Speaker 2: No, because whatever happened was taking care of that minute.
Speaker 3: Oh they got ejected in that way.
Speaker 2: Atlas right there, And usually like if if it was
Speaker 2: like Shane or PJ or somebody with me, they would
Speaker 2: go and grab the guy. But then Atlas would be
Speaker 2: like right there. So it was taken care of. Nothing
Speaker 2: ever wighed in until later, because you're not going to
Speaker 2: let that guy stay in the building, right, You're going
Speaker 2: to kick his ads out. So yeah, nothing was ever
Speaker 2: put on hold. Everything was just taken care of as
Speaker 2: soon as possible.
Speaker 3: Got it all right. So then the other question is
Speaker 3: by Antiiwcu. If Francine is in public, when is the
Speaker 3: absolute worst time or situation to approach for an autograph
Speaker 3: or pick.
Speaker 2: I don't really think there's a bad time to me, Like,
Speaker 2: I know, a lot of the boys say while we're eating,
Speaker 2: don't come up to us why we're eating. I guess
Speaker 2: if you know somebody has food in their mouth, that
Speaker 2: could be a little awkward if you come walking over.
Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't happen to me much because you know,
Speaker 2: I don't look like I used to. But when I
Speaker 2: do get recognized, I enjoy talking with fans. I don't
Speaker 2: mind it at all. But you know, if I guess,
Speaker 2: if there's like a a situation where it doesn't look
Speaker 2: like it's the right time, you should use your better
Speaker 2: judgment and maybe wait until it is the right time.
Speaker 3: Okay, So not with a mouthful of chipol, Yeah, no, which.
Speaker 1: I love By the way, I've had it like three
Speaker 1: or four times, and now I'm addicted to it.
Speaker 3: I passed it on your timeline going back to this
Speaker 3: this post so good.
Speaker 1: It is so good. I love it.
Speaker 3: Okay, how about this one at swacks one? How come
Speaker 3: you never went ahead and posed for Playboy when you
Speaker 3: used to be in ECW.
Speaker 1: I just didn't want to do it.
Speaker 2: I just didn't feel like it was something that I
Speaker 2: wanted to do. No offense to those who did, but
Speaker 2: it just wasn't for me, you know.
Speaker 1: That's that's the only answer I have.
Speaker 3: So funny that now in the time we are, how
Speaker 3: that's not like considered a big thing anymore. Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 3: How Like in the nineties that was a huge deal.
Speaker 3: Now it's like, what are you going to do?
Speaker 2: I feel like because so many women have done it,
Speaker 2: and like, if you know, back in the nineties, I
Speaker 2: was really comfortable with my body.
Speaker 1: Obviously, I didn't mind that, you know, wearing the little
Speaker 1: outfits and stuff. I was okay with it.
Speaker 2: But I wasn't like one hundred percent willing to show everything,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But a lot of the
Speaker 2: women were, and that's fine. It's like whatever's good for
Speaker 2: you is good for you. Nowadays, it seems like, I think,
Speaker 2: especially with like the Internet and everybody being able to
Speaker 2: make tons of money off of the sex industry, more and.
Speaker 1: More people are like doing well.
Speaker 2: The dirty magazines aren't really out there, but like the
Speaker 2: Only Fans and these other sites that you.
Speaker 1: Can just pose nude on, and it's more I think
Speaker 1: it's more accepted today than in the nineties, like almost like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, playboys like taboo so to speak, like
Speaker 1: it was a big deal if you post for playboys.
Speaker 2: But I feel like with everybody showing the goods these days,
Speaker 2: it's not that big of a deal, you know, and
Speaker 2: you're making more money today than you would have back
Speaker 2: then anyway.
Speaker 1: So it's like the girls that didn't show the goods
Speaker 1: in the nineties that.
Speaker 2: Are on Only Fans today, they're making so much more
Speaker 2: money than they would have for a pictorial because I
Speaker 2: don't even think they paid that great, Like you had
Speaker 2: to be Playboy of the Year to get like one
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars according to the documentary that I saw,
Speaker 2: so like a regular spread might have been five or
Speaker 2: ten g's, which is great money. But it's like Okay,
Speaker 2: then what do you do? They never use you again?
Speaker 2: You already showed everything so.
Speaker 3: Well, I just waited out for a lot of your
Speaker 3: favorites because they now.
Speaker 1: I just it's just something that I never really aspired
Speaker 1: to do.
Speaker 3: So just like I said, waited out for some of
Speaker 3: your favorites, folks, because it's only a matter of time.
Speaker 3: Like Britney spears on Instagram, I mean you don't need
Speaker 3: to subscribe or wait for her to post or anything.
Speaker 1: Just show on there. What didn't she show her boobs
Speaker 1: or something on Instagram?
Speaker 3: She just completely She just always goes out covering just
Speaker 3: doing everything. But you know she does everything but show it.
Speaker 3: But I mean, you know.
Speaker 1: There's does she make money by doing that?
Speaker 3: I'm sure she's monetizing her posts?
Speaker 1: Way crazy, but h.
Speaker 3: Liz just finished her book.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I write it in on a plane in like
Speaker 1: an hour.
Speaker 3: It's like it's written by a third grade.
Speaker 1: It's so quick. It's so quick. But it's sad, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she said for her, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're big fans of Britain in this house.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm too.
Speaker 3: All right, how about this one at case Underscore seventy eight,
Speaker 3: which ECW Talent should be the next to go into
Speaker 3: the WW Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: Wow, well, I think that's a new brainer.
Speaker 2: I think it should be Paul Haman, and I think
Speaker 2: it should be in April at WrestleMania and Philly. I
Speaker 2: think that would be the ideal spot to do it.
Speaker 2: I feel like he deserves it. I also feel like
Speaker 2: Todd Gordon should get some kind of accolade. But it'll
Speaker 2: never ever happen, unfortunately. But yeah, if I had to
Speaker 2: pick one person, it should be Paul Haman.
Speaker 3: It's a good pick. Very curious to see how they
Speaker 3: do it, because you know, there's there's a lot of
Speaker 3: rumors as to how the Hall of Fame's going to
Speaker 3: be constructed now the Triple H is running it. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, obviously Philly, it's it's ECW country. But now
Speaker 3: that Vince isn't around, you know, does Vince get inducted
Speaker 3: into the Hall of Fame because he's not around?
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so, you know, Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't think.
Speaker 2: I don't think Nail's the time to do that. I
Speaker 2: think Philly should. I don't have they announced anyone yet.
Speaker 3: No, no rumors, No, there's nothing on the table outside
Speaker 3: of any ECW murmurs.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because at first, the big the big rumor was
Speaker 2: that they were going to get like four or five
Speaker 2: of us, and everybody was saying they're going to induct
Speaker 2: E c W as a company, and I was just
Speaker 2: like really, and then that kind of got shot down
Speaker 2: and then it was like, oh, they're going to do
Speaker 2: Paul and they're going to have.
Speaker 1: A bunch of you behind Paul. I was like, uh okay,
Speaker 1: and then I heard that got shot down and it
Speaker 1: was like, just Paul, okay, you know, so who knows?
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: You can get a call the day before and say, hey,
Speaker 2: you want to make a payday, come on down.
Speaker 1: So uh, I have no.
Speaker 3: Two oh three number on your phone? Is gonna come up?
Speaker 3: Fred Scene, get your get your little podcast buddy, get
Speaker 3: your ass down here to Philly.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like he's gonna ask for you. What are
Speaker 1: you saying?
Speaker 3: I remember, I remember when he used to work here.
Speaker 3: Get his ass down here again.
Speaker 2: He says, yeah, right, I doubt that, And I would
Speaker 2: like that called a good a voicemail.
Speaker 1: By the way, I wouldn't even pick it up.
Speaker 3: He said, She's definitely gonna pick up.
Speaker 1: Hellot no if I don't know the number. I don't
Speaker 1: pick it up. Sorry.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 3: There's a follow up here with Case Underscore seventy eight. Also,
Speaker 3: what is your favorite ECW pay per view and why
Speaker 3: is it Heat Wave ninety eight and ninety nine?
Speaker 2: It is not, It is not he Wave ninety eight
Speaker 2: and ninety nine. It will always be Barely Legal ninety
Speaker 2: seven because that is the first pay per view we've
Speaker 2: ever done, and even though the match wasn't as great
Speaker 2: as it could have been, the build up and the
Speaker 2: raw raw session in the locker room beforehand will always
Speaker 2: be in my head and in my memory and document
Speaker 2: it by Barry Blaustein for years to come. So yeah,
Speaker 2: that pay per view just always stands out to me.
Speaker 2: It's the first, might not be the best, but it
Speaker 2: was our first effort into that realm, and I'll never
Speaker 2: forget that night ever.
Speaker 1: I watch clips of it and I still get chills.
Speaker 2: It's something that we never thought we'd achieve and we
Speaker 2: did it, you know, and it's a big deal. It
Speaker 2: was a big deal for us, So that's why it
Speaker 2: would always be my favorite.
Speaker 3: Awesome so great at Pure Massacre eighty nine wants to
Speaker 3: know who did you have the most fun working with
Speaker 3: besides Shane Douglas, of course, I.
Speaker 2: Mean I enjoyed mostly ninety nine percent of that roster,
Speaker 2: but again, the Triple Threat was just.
Speaker 1: So unique.
Speaker 2: We were so close in and out of the ring,
Speaker 2: and I think that's what made it like so fun.
Speaker 2: You're working with like your best friends, and especially like Candido,
Speaker 2: I said it a million times, like working with him
Speaker 2: was so easy, and he brought so much comedy into
Speaker 2: the match and it just lightened the mood, especially if
Speaker 2: like if I'm going out there with Shane for one match,
Speaker 2: Chris for another match, Bammer for another match. There are
Speaker 2: so many different aspects and layers to the way that
Speaker 2: each person works. And with Chris, again, I knew I
Speaker 2: didn't have to like go crazy memorizing things. I knew
Speaker 2: he had a million haja spots that we were going
Speaker 2: to do and that it was just going to be
Speaker 2: a good time. So I enjoyed almost everybody, but like
Speaker 2: Chris just made it his.
Speaker 1: Deical on a different level. It's just easy working with him.
Speaker 3: Great choice. How about this one, Scott Cassilius six zero
Speaker 3: six two. You know Scott from a couple different posts
Speaker 3: that he's he's made. He wants to know your top
Speaker 3: ten favorite wrestler entrance themes. But we're gonna narrow it
Speaker 3: down to top three.
Speaker 1: Oh jesus, we're.
Speaker 3: Gonna edit that top three top three.
Speaker 1: Jeez, I I have my top two. I need a third.
Speaker 2: Second favorite was Ravens Entrance music, Come out and Play.
Speaker 1: Love that song?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that one I always enjoyed walking out to.
Speaker 2: My favorite ever was pg's snap your Finger, Snap your Neck.
Speaker 2: I love that song. That was fun coming out too.
Speaker 2: I told Shane so many times. He would always be like,
Speaker 2: are you kidding me? Perfect strangers? I guess fit, but it.
Speaker 1: Wasn't my favorite.
Speaker 3: Kills me every time you say it kills me.
Speaker 1: I didn't like yeah, like that wasn't my favorite.
Speaker 2: Man in the Box I hate it walking out the
Speaker 2: Man in the Box with Dreamer like that song didn't.
Speaker 1: They're not fun. I couldn't like bounce and dance to
Speaker 1: it like I want something.
Speaker 2: I can get a mirring and I can like groove
Speaker 2: too and those song Oh, and the worst song Terry
Speaker 2: Funk I Love You, but Desperado. Oh if I had
Speaker 2: to walk out the Desperado, I know that people are
Speaker 2: saying blasphemy. I just didn't like that song. It's depressing
Speaker 2: as hell. I don't know, but those are my top two.
Speaker 2: I can't think of a third.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think.
Speaker 2: Can I say the NW theme for number even though
Speaker 2: I didn't walk out to it, but I would.
Speaker 1: Have loved to.
Speaker 3: Yeah that porno music?
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, so that's that. That would be my
Speaker 2: top three, I guess. But worst one of all time Desperado.
Speaker 3: It's a great song, just not a wrestling theme.
Speaker 1: Desperado, Man in a Box Perfect Strangers was good, but
Speaker 1: it just I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think it fits Shane and I though I do,
Speaker 2: but it wasn't that fun though.
Speaker 3: Hey, if it's not fun for you, you sure you surefooled
Speaker 3: me because you sure looked great coming out through it
Speaker 3: all the time.
Speaker 1: With him, it wasn't fun to dance to dance. Is
Speaker 1: not a dancer.
Speaker 2: He won't dance like if if he does, he like
Speaker 2: does it for like two seconds and that's it.
Speaker 1: Come on, So.
Speaker 3: But he's he doesn't have to dance. He just has
Speaker 3: to deviously laugh as he's walking.
Speaker 1: We did. We did a convention once and next to
Speaker 1: us was a Latin.
Speaker 2: A Latin dance troop and they were giving Sauce a
Speaker 2: lessons and it was like it'd have a table. It
Speaker 2: was like a really big dance and I said, oh
Speaker 2: my god, let's go take the lessons.
Speaker 1: And he wouldn't do it.
Speaker 2: So I went over by myself and I took the
Speaker 2: lessons from the god they were right.
Speaker 1: Next to us. But he wouldn't even do that. I'm
Speaker 1: like it, just have fun, you know, he's not a dancer.
Speaker 3: Well, they could teach him how to dance, and he
Speaker 3: could teach them how to pantomime, you know, how to
Speaker 3: kiss his as whatever. He could say into the camera.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he didn't want to. He doesn't dance.
Speaker 3: That's funny, all right, mostly for chicks. If you could
Speaker 3: bring one wrestler from today back to prime ECW to manage,
Speaker 3: who would it be?
Speaker 1: Stop Ziggler. Yeah, you said that a lot, that a
Speaker 1: million times.
Speaker 3: Let's pick somebody else. He's retired, now, don't pick him,
Speaker 3: he's not.
Speaker 1: He's still. Here's somebody else. Oh god, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: He'd be my pick, all right, fine, dolfh Ziggler.
Speaker 1: I just think he's like perfect, He's the perfect package.
Speaker 3: Uh at Mike m A Butts. Mike Butts. Uh, did
Speaker 3: you ever fear? Yeah, Mike Butts, that's Seymour, It's it's
Speaker 3: his brother.
Speaker 1: Mike brother.
Speaker 3: Did you ever fear for your own safety working at
Speaker 3: the arena in South Philly?
Speaker 2: Again, let's go back to that other question that I
Speaker 2: answered five minutes ago.
Speaker 1: Of course I did. Do I have to reiterate what
Speaker 1: I just said.
Speaker 3: I'm just going through what's left on the other.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just people hitting you is not a good time.
Speaker 2: So walking down that, especially when the aisleway was this big,
Speaker 2: like very very small, and you had sometimes I literally
Speaker 2: had to walk sideways to fit through, and then like
Speaker 2: Atlas would be on each side of me, and you
Speaker 2: would see.
Speaker 1: The hands coming over Atlas underneath and you know, the armpit.
Speaker 3: And them doing this.
Speaker 2: Yes, and thank God for that because they, I mean,
Speaker 2: they did their job.
Speaker 1: But once in a while somebody would get by them,
Speaker 1: and I was.
Speaker 2: Always scared until I got to the end of the
Speaker 2: aisle and then I had more space to like.
Speaker 1: Be free.
Speaker 3: So did you get like groped, Like did you literally
Speaker 3: get of course, I mean that is that an instant
Speaker 3: turn around and get that guy out of here. Do
Speaker 3: you not know who did it?
Speaker 1: Somebody grabs your wife's boob?
Speaker 3: Are you like in a crowd like that? Do you
Speaker 3: know who did it?
Speaker 1: Or do you not him who did it? But sometimes,
Speaker 1: like if I felt something.
Speaker 2: I'd try and grab their hand and hold them and
Speaker 2: then you know, you turn around and you got this
Speaker 2: guy's hand, and then Atlas would be right there and
Speaker 2: I'd be like get.
Speaker 3: Them out, oh wow? Or does the crowd help you
Speaker 3: and be like it was him?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: Sometimes they'd stowed them off too, Yeah, for sure. But
Speaker 2: there were times when I, you know, somebody would touch me.
Speaker 2: I didn't know where it came from.
Speaker 3: Damn, who does that? Like? Who would they do that? Hurt?
Speaker 1: We're a drunk guy. Maybe he drank too much because
Speaker 1: you know I was usually towards the end of the show.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not gonna pat myself on the back
Speaker 2: foot main event, but yeah, things happen. You know, you
Speaker 2: put alcohol out there and guys get a little rowdy.
Speaker 2: No I'm not justifying it, but it did happen, and uh,
Speaker 2: they get knocked on their ass for it.
Speaker 3: Thank you set them up and knock them down. We'll
Speaker 3: do two more here, very odd question for this guy
Speaker 3: to ask this, But Pope John Paul the third, Oh
Speaker 3: my gosh, all right, No, have you ever been interviewed
Speaker 3: about the ecw catfights.
Speaker 1: About a hundred times? Hello?
Speaker 3: He would want to know about that, Hope, John.
Speaker 2: Paul Good lord, Yeah, I mean, what does he want
Speaker 2: to know about them?
Speaker 3: That's a vague question, just wants to know if you've
Speaker 3: ever been interviewed specifically about them.
Speaker 2: People have asked questions, how you know, how are they?
Speaker 2: How was it doing performing you know, doing them? And
Speaker 2: I say somewhere better than others moosset were scripted, couple
Speaker 2: wor shoot, we'll leave it at that.
Speaker 3: And I guess this last one would be more about
Speaker 3: the story that Todd Gordon told us on the air,
Speaker 3: and it's in his book. So I'm going to kind
Speaker 3: of I'll ask this question, but I'll also kind of
Speaker 3: rephrase it to kind of fit maybe something that you're
Speaker 3: familiar with. But the question is by Jason Fields at
Speaker 3: j Fields eighty five. I want to know about the
Speaker 3: Sandman story about hiding cocaine around the famous ecw Ocono
Speaker 3: lodge back in the day. So obviously I believe he's
Speaker 3: talking about the story that Todd Gordon in the book where.
Speaker 1: I wasn't there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he hit it underneath the pot and found that
Speaker 3: flower pot found it that had helped hit it underneath
Speaker 3: the carpet. Let's rephrase that too. Do you remember any
Speaker 3: kind of crazy stories involving wrestlers maybe hiding things in
Speaker 3: places that were odd and you know, might have been
Speaker 3: similar to this Sandman story.
Speaker 2: No, I don't, And that's why it popped to like
Speaker 2: so huge when I heard that story, because I never
Speaker 2: never heard that story. In the last thirty years of
Speaker 2: my life, I've never heard that story, So that's pretty funny.
Speaker 2: The only thing I can remember, like especially about the
Speaker 2: Travel Lodge when I used to stay there in the beginning,
Speaker 2: I just remember like sometimes there was blood on the walls.
Speaker 1: It was like one of the.
Speaker 2: Most disgusting hotels ever, but it was so cheap and
Speaker 2: that's where everybody stayed, you know. I'm pretty sure there
Speaker 2: was like chalk outlines of bodies on the carpet.
Speaker 1: Like it was bad, stains everywhere, stains.
Speaker 2: All over the bed, like just disgusting. And I'm very
Speaker 2: grateful for Shane to get me out of there and
Speaker 2: tell me I need to stay at the Marriotte because
Speaker 2: that place was as fun as it was, it was
Speaker 2: just a cesspool of every disease you.
Speaker 1: Can imagine, so gross.
Speaker 2: So but as far as hiding drugs, I wasn't. I
Speaker 2: was friends with the drug addicts, but I wasn't in
Speaker 2: the drug scene, so while they were partaking after hours,
Speaker 2: I really wasn't hanging with them, right, So I'm.
Speaker 1: Not prevy to these stories.
Speaker 2: A lot of these stories about finding cocaine and you.
Speaker 1: Know, smoking and all that stuff. I didn't do it.
Speaker 3: It's a great story though, if you have Todd Gordon's.
Speaker 1: Book, that's a classic story.
Speaker 2: And if you again, if you haven't read and go
Speaker 2: get Todd is God because it's hilarious. But yeah, I
Speaker 2: wasn't really there for that, but I could totally see
Speaker 2: it happening.
Speaker 3: And it's also on our YouTube Live with Todd Gordon
Speaker 3: he tells it as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, forget the book, go watch just.
Speaker 3: More detail in the book. But I mean just see
Speaker 3: the image of Sam Man running down the hall with
Speaker 3: the guys rooting him on and him picking up the
Speaker 3: flower pot and hilarious crazy stuff. But that is it
Speaker 3: for the question.
Speaker 1: There were some good ones.
Speaker 2: I'm glad we went back and and looked into those
Speaker 2: because it got me this morning. I was like, I'm
Speaker 2: pretty sure they left them on YouTube as well, So
Speaker 2: good find.
Speaker 3: Absolutely. So we'll do this again down the road, and
Speaker 3: hopefully we'll switch up the questions a little bit, so
Speaker 3: we know who you'll manage. If you go back and
Speaker 3: pull somebody from the future and go to ECW, we
Speaker 3: know who. Yeah you take somebody, Yeah, yeah, you know
Speaker 3: you're coming from today? Yeah, going back, you know. So
Speaker 3: we'll switch up the questions a little bit next time.
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