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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, this is the point of its strength rand

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Speaker 1: scene and you are listening to.

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Speaker 2: Eyes up here on the iHeartRadio Network or wherever you

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Speaker 2: get this podcast.

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Speaker 1: As always, my co host Chad is right by my side. Hey,

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Speaker 1: how are you doing today? Buddy?

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Speaker 3: The chat stir is doing just fine. A little tired,

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Speaker 3: but I'm here ready to get going.

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Speaker 1: You're still hungover from last week's big New Year's just

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Speaker 3: But the sunglasses are fully cocked on the top of

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Speaker 3: my head, which means it's up your tide.

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Speaker 1: They should be on your face cover the tiredness.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't know. It's button depressive. I've put them all

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Speaker 3: the way down.

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Speaker 1: Dar, isn't it?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 1: Oh man, So what's going on? How's a twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: So far, so far, so good? Can't complain in twenty

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Speaker 3: twenty four? Was waiting for that calendar change? Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: I can't complain so far.

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Speaker 2: I was hyping myself up this morning. I was like

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Speaker 2: doing a self motivation thing. I'm like, you know, this

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Speaker 2: was all in my brain, not how loud, so don't

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Speaker 1: But I was like.

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Speaker 2: Sitting there and I'm just like I think this is

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Speaker 2: gonna be my year. I think I'm gonna work my

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get to travel, I'm gonna get to do

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Speaker 1: stuff with the kids and the husband, and it's just.

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Speaker 2: Going to be a really good year because last year

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Speaker 2: wasn't so good. Last year was a lot of stress,

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Speaker 2: and my goal for this year is to just be

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Speaker 2: Because you know, I'm gonna be fifty two next month,

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Speaker 2: like half my life is over.

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Speaker 1: The glass is half empty, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 2: So I just made it a point to tell myself, hey,

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Speaker 2: good time. And that's what I'm doing. That's my uh,

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Speaker 2: that's my goal for twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Sit.

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Speaker 3: I like to think that the glass is half full.

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Speaker 1: You do.

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Speaker 2: And I'm more of a pessimist where you're Maya, You're

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Speaker 2: the yin to my yang.

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Speaker 1: You're the optimist. I'm the pessimist.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 3: It's funny because I really needed, personally needed that calendar

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Speaker 3: to change. So I hate people that say, oh, it's

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Speaker 3: just you know, it's it doesn't mean anything, and that's

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Speaker 3: just another day. And oh you know, New Year's Day

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I saw Kevin's tweet, and I was just like,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm kinda thinking New Year knew me.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I reset. I completely use it as a reset.

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Speaker 3: I think that it's if you have something that is

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Speaker 2: New I like to hear that, Yeah, I'm I'm going

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Speaker 2: to be more positive this year.

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Speaker 1: So when I'm not positive, you kick me in my

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Speaker 2: Say, listen, lady, you said you were going to be

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Speaker 2: positive and not negative.

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Speaker 1: That's that's what I want to be, so try. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so let's do that.

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Speaker 2: But today we have another follow up to a show,

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Speaker 2: What did we do about a month, three weeks ago.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we did November twenty eighth.

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Speaker 1: Wow, okay, so it's been a month.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna do the second part because we had a

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Speaker 3: Sure. Yeah. And actually what was great about it too

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Speaker 3: the pile, if you will. So I'm gonna grab one

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Speaker 3: one is from at Samo Rosco two thousand and two.

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Speaker 3: What are some of your favorite movies and TV shows.

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Speaker 2: Wow, well again, I think we might have answered this before.

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Speaker 2: My favorite movie of all time is nineteen sixty eight

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Speaker 1: Love It, love it, love it, Love it. I tend

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Speaker 1: but comedies are my favorite. Anything that has to do with.

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Speaker 2: The vacation movies, Chevy Chase, like hilarious, love those things.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just stuff that's funny. TV shows.

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Speaker 2: I tended to watch a lot of reality television, so

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Speaker 2: I love things like Big Brother, Survivor, The Challenge right now.

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Speaker 2: I'm watching The Challenge right now on MTV.

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Speaker 2: My DVR was so full, like with all of like

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Speaker 2: But yeah, I love reality television. Now I'm not really

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Speaker 3: Yes, I never I never got into any of those shows.

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Speaker 1: Oh I loved road Rules.

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Speaker 3: Never never run into them.

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Speaker 1: The challenge came from those shows.

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Speaker 2: It spoiled from those shows, and I don't know, I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting. I never got into it, but now

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Speaker 3: I will piggyback off of I do love the Vacation franchise.

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Speaker 3: I do love those movies. Where would you say you

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Speaker 3: rank them quickly? Out of the first let's just go

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Speaker 3: Hang on, I'm gonna send to name them. You got Vacation, European,

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Speaker 3: Christmas in Vegas.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Christmas is number one.

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Speaker 1: I might have to tie those.

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Speaker 2: I think that Vegas might be no, European might be last,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that's kind of a toss up.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean they're still funny, but they kind of

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Speaker 1: Like I can watch it one hundred times over and

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Speaker 3: So funny.

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Speaker 2: The reboot, yeah, I think I did or parts of it,

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Speaker 3: Like, eh, hot garbage.

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Speaker 2: You can't fix, Like, what's not broken, don't fix it.

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Speaker 2: If it ain't broken, or if it ain't broke, don't

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's people. I think it's just the money grab.

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Speaker 3: Hot garbage, I'll say it again. So bad Ed Helms,

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Speaker 3: I mean funny on the Office. Yeah, you cannot put

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he made a statement did you see me?

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Speaker 2: And he apologized if you don't like my Rick Flair,

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Speaker 2: Everybody's like negative comments, because there was not one positive

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Speaker 1: And he just came out and stood up for himself.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I acted it the best that I could,

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Speaker 1: It's a shame. I felt bad for the guy.

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Speaker 3: I was like, wow, you know, and he didn't sound

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Speaker 3: like you know. But what again, This is the hard

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Speaker 3: part about doing a very specific genre film. You're going

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Speaker 3: to pick it apart, very very very stringently. The Wrestler

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Speaker 1: That came of them to Yeah, it was an original character.

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Speaker 3: Right, so you know. The only thing they used that

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Speaker 1: That was a great movie, by the way.

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Speaker 3: The Wrestler. Oh love the Wrestler.

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Speaker 1: That was a really good movie. Very sad, yeah, they crossing,

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Speaker 1: Because it doesn't last forever. And that's the point of

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Speaker 2: You know, one day you're hot and you're twenty something

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Speaker 1: And I said it so many times. You're a rock star.

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Speaker 2: Made you think about your future and what you don't

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Speaker 3: In my That's what I think that scene, you know,

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Speaker 2: I don't because I've seen place that looked like that.

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Speaker 2: I've seen places that looked like that. I've seen promoters

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean, And it's just everybody's walking

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Speaker 2: it was all stars. That was where Gary Busey came

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Speaker 2: the guy from a league of their own. It was

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Speaker 2: he was walking around like there was nothing. There was

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Speaker 1: And I think I might have sold I don't know,

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Speaker 2: And I said to myself, well, this isn't my fault

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Speaker 2: because number one, I'm like this, this is a this

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Speaker 1: So everybody was literally just sitting there just either talking

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Speaker 1: almost the arrest of Gary Bucy. There was a fight.

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Speaker 1: It was a mess. It was a mess.

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Speaker 2: But no, I've seen conventions that were really bad. And

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Speaker 2: do you blame? Do you blame the promoter if there

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Speaker 2: blame the talent for not drawing?

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Speaker 1: You know, it's kind of.

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Speaker 2: It's a slippery slope when you get to that point

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Speaker 2: no one come up to your table anymore, it's pretty

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Speaker 1: Much done right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's sad. How about the rumors of who the

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Speaker 1: I never heard that it was based on one particular

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Speaker 3: Speculation over the years. Some people said, possibly, you know,

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Speaker 2: Would always have a crowd, so that I can't believe

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Speaker 2: it would be based on Piper.

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Speaker 1: And didn't you have a wife?

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, but I think more like the attitude of.

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Speaker 2: The well, if you look at it that way, but

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Speaker 2: I mean the loneliness and the the desperation of still

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Speaker 1: I think that's what he was, wasn't he He was

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that I can't contribute to Piper because Piper,

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Speaker 2: Piper will draw a crowd if he was one hundred. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: everybody wanted Piper's autograph. This guy, you know, it was

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Speaker 2: just sad. He was just trying to hang on to

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Speaker 2: any little bit of glory that he had. And it

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Speaker 2: really makes you think, you know, and I think about

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Speaker 2: that every day. I'm like, man, when I get to

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Speaker 2: that point, that's when I say to myself, I'm just

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Speaker 2: gonna stay. I'm gonna just hang it up. So I

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Speaker 2: don't think I'm there yet, but I think I have

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Speaker 2: a little.

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Speaker 1: Bit of time left.

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Speaker 3: Those Yeah, don't never understimate those ECW fans. They'll keep everybody,

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Speaker 3: especially this April. That's right, All right, let's go back

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Speaker 3: to the question. Since here I've got Samuel Johnson at

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Speaker 3: Samuel three seven zero one three four four one to

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Speaker 3: the exact in your opinion, where did Vince McMahon go

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Speaker 3: wrong with promoting Bam Bam Bigelow?

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, I couldn't even tell you. Stephen Nue

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Speaker 2: just sent me a text message. So I feel like

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Speaker 2: Bam Bam to me is a main eventor Bam Bam

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Speaker 2: is a guy that I always thought could do it all.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about Bam Bam because I've worked with him

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Speaker 2: float across that ring. He never got winded. He was

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Speaker 2: so athletic, and he was a team player. Whatever you

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Speaker 2: need it from him. From what I saw in ECW,

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Speaker 2: he would do. I never saw him complain. I never

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Speaker 2: saw trying politic.

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Speaker 1: He was just.

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Speaker 2: A team player. He was a guy that you wanted

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Speaker 2: on your squad. The Lawrence Taylor thing is the one

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Speaker 2: that keeps popping in my head, Like everybody says, oh

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Speaker 2: they did him dirty with Lawrence Taylor.

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Speaker 1: He did business. You know, he went in there, he

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Speaker 1: made him shine, he put him over, He did the

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Speaker 1: right thing. I don't know what happened with him in

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Speaker 1: that company that.

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Speaker 2: Stopped him from ever reaching that main event championship status.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you.

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Speaker 2: I just know that the Bam Bam that I knew

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Speaker 2: he could uh for his company.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, absolutely. And if you want to read stories

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Speaker 3: or hear stories about why Bam Bam might not have

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Speaker 3: who runs that next tea. Now, there might be something

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Speaker 3: behind that, because it was very documented that the Click

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Speaker 3: I don't know why either, because you know, there's there's

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Speaker 3: event spot at WrestleMania. He could have picked anybody he

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Speaker 3: could have picked. He could have picked Rick Martell, he

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Speaker 3: could have picked anyone. But they the Click singled out

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Speaker 3: Bam Bam for some reason to not want him to

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Speaker 3: be part of the plan, I guess, And they didn't

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Speaker 3: necessarily want to get rid of him, but they didn't

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Speaker 3: want him in that top picture. And Bam Bam, you know,

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Speaker 3: he wasn't a big fan of them either, and he

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of stories about the click holding people.

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Speaker 2: It's just is it based off of jealousy? You know,

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Speaker 2: it's like keeping the spot for themselves.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man. All I know is Bam Bam

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Speaker 1: was a pleasure to work with.

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Speaker 2: And even though he broke my pelvis, that was a

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Speaker 2: complete accident, but he was a delight and he was

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Speaker 2: so good at what he did and I miss him

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Speaker 2: and I love him, and I just feel like I

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Speaker 2: think Paul made him shine in ECW, and I think

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Speaker 2: he deserved that and he was proud of that and

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Speaker 2: he was proud to be a part of our locker room.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. So I'm just when I remember seeing him there,

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Speaker 3: I know he jumped in for a cup of coffee

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Speaker 3: ninety seven. But like when you saw that he was

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Speaker 3: staying as a fan, You're like, Wow, that's really cool

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Speaker 3: that Bam Bam Bigelow is in ECW.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's great.

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Speaker 3: Kai, All right, here we go. How about this one

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Speaker 3: we have Scott. Did you enjoy working with Just Incredible

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Speaker 3: and any favorite moments or matches with him?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I loved working with Just Incredible. I feel like PJ

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Speaker 2: and I clicked right away. It was a similar connection

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Speaker 2: to what I had with Shane, and.

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Speaker 1: Working with him, I got to.

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Speaker 2: Not master, but I got to like really amp up

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Speaker 2: my mic work because Paul let me be his mouthpiece

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Speaker 2: for a lot of segments.

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Speaker 1: And I feel my.

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Speaker 2: Character, although I still feel like Shane and I together

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Speaker 2: like my character grew so.

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Speaker 1: Much with PJ in a sense of me just.

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Speaker 2: Being more vocal, being more of like a dominant female

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Speaker 2: on the microphone, because I didn't get that with Shane.

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Speaker 1: I never really got to talk.

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Speaker 2: Shane was so good at his craft and so good

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Speaker 2: speaking wise, he never really needed me to talk. PJ

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Speaker 2: was good, but just Paul felt like he needed that

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Speaker 2: little umph and let me shine on the microphone more so.

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Speaker 2: And I really got comfortable because in the beginning I

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Speaker 2: was petrified at the mic. I was always afraid I

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Speaker 2: was gonna mess up and blah blah blah, blah blah.

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Speaker 2: And I just feel like towards the end is where

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Speaker 2: I finally got into my groove and I cut some

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Speaker 2: really good promos. I feel but him and I working

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Speaker 2: and I just feel like putting me with him just

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Speaker 2: you don't have me kind of thing. It kind of worked.

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00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 2: So Yeah, I loved working with him. He was great,

445
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 2: and I asked for like, like one of the most

446
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 2: memorable matches, the one that keeps popping in my head

447
00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 2: all the time, is when we worked to Jerry, and

448
00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:30,159
Speaker 2: I think we watched it years ago. It was like

449
00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 2: a two on one more so than just like I

450
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 2: had a spot and that was it. Like I was

451
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 2: in and out of that ring forty two times.

452
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: It was just such.

453
00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:42,840
Speaker 2: A good match. And I got a lot of accolades

454
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 2: for that one because I just kept trying to help

455
00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,879
Speaker 2: him over and over and it wasn't just once, it

456
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 2: was like three or four times. And then I took

457
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 2: the miss and uh, you know, we went under the

458
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 2: ring and I got choked down and I almost went

459
00:24:58,080 --> 00:24:59,159
Speaker 2: through a table.

460
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: And it was there was so much action in it.

461
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 2: It was like a double team on to Jerry and

462
00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 2: to Jery was great about it, and that match just

463
00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 2: always stands out in my head.

464
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 1: It was so fun to do.

465
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 3: That's a good one. Yeah, we did watch that years ago.

466
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it was a lot of fun.

467
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 3: So all right, how about this one, Thomas J One

468
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,120
Speaker 3: one eight three. This is a great one. How about

469
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 3: this Hypothetically, if you were forced to leave ECW in

470
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 3: the mid to late nineties and had both WWF and

471
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:33,880
Speaker 3: WCW offering you similar contracts to jump ship, which company

472
00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 3: do you think you would have chosen the WWS Attitude

473
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 3: era or WCW's nWo era.

474
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 2: Well, it would have been the wrong choice, but I

475
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,320
Speaker 2: would have probably chose WCW.

476
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 1: And we all know it would have.

477
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 2: Been the wrong choice because they went under right after

478
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 2: we did. But they were throwing money at guys like crazy,

479
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:03,240
Speaker 2: like big, big, big amounts of money. My friends were

480
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 2: going there. A lot of my friends left ECW to

481
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 2: go to WCW, So I would have had a little

482
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,400
Speaker 2: group already there that I could have hung out with.

483
00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 2: And I was a huge nWo mark. I loved the nWo.

484
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 2: I never was into DX. That wasn't my thing. DX

485
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 2: to me was childish and locker room teenage, locker room humor,

486
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 2: whereas like the nWo was just cool and edgy, and

487
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,280
Speaker 2: that got me and I loved everything that they did

488
00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 2: until they started doing different factions with the nWo that

489
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 2: kind of took away from the original concept of it.

490
00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 2: But man, I loved them so much and I enjoyed

491
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 2: watching it as a fan. So I think I would

492
00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 2: have went with WCW and I would have lost my

493
00:26:59,000 --> 00:26:59,760
Speaker 2: job a year later.

494
00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 3: That's too funny. I could see you in the nWo

495
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 3: as like the nWo babe, you know, like somebody.

496
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, Like when Miss Elizabeth went there and she

497
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 2: started like getting more physical, I was like, yes, finally,

498
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,199
Speaker 2: because you know, don't get me wrong, Elizabeth is a

499
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 2: staple and professional wrestling, but she always played the like,

500
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 2: oh my god, like she didn't really do much. She

501
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: was the beautiful side piece to Randy Savage. She was

502
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 2: a great character, so to speak, because you know, she

503
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,720
Speaker 2: was the one that they were fighting over. She was

504
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:47,640
Speaker 2: always the one, uh in the middle of the controversy.

505
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 2: But she never really bumped and she never really talked.

506
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,159
Speaker 1: She didn't do much. And if I get backlash for that,

507
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but look look at her work.

508
00:27:57,760 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 2: Like she she was always the like, oh my god,

509
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 2: poor beat kind of damsel in distress. Right when she

510
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 2: went with the nWo and started doing stuff. I was

511
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: just like, that is what I've been waiting for from

512
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 2: this woman for years because I knew she had it

513
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 2: in her. But I guess the powers that be just

514
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 2: didn't want her to go that route, you know. And

515
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,280
Speaker 2: as good as she was playing the damsel, I thought

516
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,920
Speaker 2: she shined in the nWo. I loved seeing her more physical,

517
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 2: you know that. That just made my day and and

518
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 2: it just made me just I loved her before, but

519
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 2: I loved.

520
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 1: Her even more when she was in the nWo, even

521
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:39,560
Speaker 1: more when she was when she was with Savage Great.

522
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 2: But when she was in the nWo, I thought she

523
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: shined and I loved her.

524
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 3: She was wearing you know, like the lower cut outfits

525
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 3: and leather and I.

526
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 2: Know that, yeah, she wore I remember she wore like

527
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: these shiny leatherish pants black and she had like a

528
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 2: sparkly T shirt. Looks so cute because you always saw

529
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: her in dresses like you never saw her and then

530
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: she would come out with the little nWo shirt and

531
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 2: then she I think like she slapped somebody and then

532
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 2: she like jumped on somebody.

533
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 1: I was like, yes, I love this, miss Elizabeth, Like

534
00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: this is what I'm waiting for because I love when

535
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: the girls get physical.

536
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, So they used her in the beginning of the storyline.

537
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,800
Speaker 3: They used her as like a huge pawn in the

538
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,960
Speaker 3: in like the you know, mind games aspect of you

539
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 3: don't know who's gonna turn next, Like, yeah, she was

540
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 3: a huge part. But I could see if you went there,

541
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 3: they'd use you in like the you know, seductress role,

542
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 3: and they'd put you in like I could see them.

543
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 3: I could literally see you with the Outsiders. That's where

544
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 3: I could see you. If you were in the nWo.

545
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, that would have been.

546
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 2: That would have been a dream because they were like

547
00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 2: one of my favorite factions.

548
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: So man, what could have been?

549
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,360
Speaker 2: But it would have been a disaster again because with

550
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 2: w UWE or f at the time, whoever they were,

551
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 2: would they have bought my contract out? Would I have

552
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 2: went over to them, like, you don't know what could

553
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,040
Speaker 2: have happened?

554
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.

555
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 2: And meanwhile what happened was I just went to the

556
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 2: indies and was making a hell of a lot of

557
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:24,200
Speaker 2: money that first couple of years back because you know,

558
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 2: again they pay once you're off TV, does ind snatch

559
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 2: you up and they pay you tons of money?

560
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: To come to their shows, and it was great.

561
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 3: Interesting. Now these next two questions will be kind of

562
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 3: back to back, semi connected. This first one asked any

563
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 3: negative interactions with fans during your original ECW run.

564
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, plenty.

565
00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 2: All the fans who touched me, punched me, kicked me,

566
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 2: spit on me was a negative interaction. And I've discussed

567
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: those several times. Call me whatever you want. I said

568
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 2: it too many. You can call me any name in

569
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 2: the book. I don't care.

570
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: Don't touch us.

571
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 2: And for a fan to take liberties and reach over

572
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: that guardrail and think it's okay to grab a woman

573
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,080
Speaker 2: by the hair or punch her in the face, which

574
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: I've been sucker punched before, or.

575
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: Lean over and rip my dress off me. That's happened before.

576
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 1: You know who gave you permission to put your hands

577
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: on me? And why would you want to put your

578
00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: hands on me. I never understood that it's okay if

579
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: you hate me. Just keep in mind, I playing a character.

580
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: Number one. You know some of these people think it's real.

581
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: I'm playing a character. But if I didn't lean over

582
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: and punch you or spit on you, why do you

583
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: have the audacity to punch me? What gives you the

584
00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: right to touch me?

585
00:31:59,040 --> 00:31:59,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, shouldn't.

586
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 2: And that's what pissed me off, Like that's what makes

587
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 2: you know, performing in front of a live crowd not enjoyable.

588
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,840
Speaker 2: Stuff like that, And when that happened, morale goes down,

589
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 2: you lose time in your match.

590
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: It just makes you pissed off and you.

591
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 2: Lose your timing, like like you know, you just wasted

592
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 2: three minutes trying to get somebody kicked out of the building.

593
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 2: Especially if you're on a pay per view, you only

594
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 2: have so many minutes to work and if you go long,

595
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 2: you screw somebody else out.

596
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: Of their match, so you have to cut your match short.

597
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: So anytime stuff like that happened, it would piss me off,

598
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 1: like keep your hands to yourself and they deserve to

599
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: be thrown out of the building. Well I paid a ticket,

600
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: Well then don't touch me, simple as that.

601
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,719
Speaker 3: One of the rules of your ticket purchase.

602
00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:00,320
Speaker 1: Use your brain. That's the one thing I never understand. Good.

603
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: It was these guys, and it was guys right.

604
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 2: Ninety nine percent of the time I got hit by men,

605
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 2: which blew my mind.

606
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: It's like, really, look at me, why why are you

607
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 1: gonna hit me?

608
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:21,480
Speaker 2: You know, it wasn't like I did a snot rocket like.

609
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: Like Shane would do, like you would do? Was snot rocket?

610
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 2: Or take somebody's Yeah, take somebody's shirt or you know,

611
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 2: blow your ear. I didn't touch these people, and I

612
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: wouldn't touch these people, but for some reason they would

613
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: touch me and I did not appreciate it and I

614
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 2: did not enjoy it, and I would call that a

615
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 2: bad interaction.

616
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,040
Speaker 3: That was the question was asked by at B, three

617
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 3: A and R. The follow up underneath it, did any

618
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 3: of them have you ever seen an instance where something

619
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 3: happened to yourself or another female performer early in the night,

620
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,479
Speaker 3: and then later on you saw one of the boys

621
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 3: and act revenge on the perpetrator as the night went on,

622
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,799
Speaker 3: and they they found the person that might have hit

623
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 3: the girl or hit the other performer and maybe knocked

624
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 3: them while they're going through the crowd.

625
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 2: No, because whatever happened was taking care of that minute.

626
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:24,319
Speaker 3: Oh they got ejected in that way.

627
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 2: Atlas right there, And usually like if if it was

628
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 2: like Shane or PJ or somebody with me, they would

629
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,279
Speaker 2: go and grab the guy. But then Atlas would be

630
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 2: like right there. So it was taken care of. Nothing

631
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,880
Speaker 2: ever wighed in until later, because you're not going to

632
00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 2: let that guy stay in the building, right, You're going

633
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: to kick his ads out. So yeah, nothing was ever

634
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,359
Speaker 2: put on hold. Everything was just taken care of as

635
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:51,240
Speaker 2: soon as possible.

636
00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 3: Got it all right. So then the other question is

637
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 3: by Antiiwcu. If Francine is in public, when is the

638
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 3: absolute worst time or situation to approach for an autograph

639
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 3: or pick.

640
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 2: I don't really think there's a bad time to me, Like,

641
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 2: I know, a lot of the boys say while we're eating,

642
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:16,400
Speaker 2: don't come up to us why we're eating. I guess

643
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: if you know somebody has food in their mouth, that

644
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 2: could be a little awkward if you come walking over.

645
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 2: I mean, it doesn't happen to me much because you know,

646
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 2: I don't look like I used to. But when I

647
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 2: do get recognized, I enjoy talking with fans. I don't

648
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: mind it at all. But you know, if I guess,

649
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 2: if there's like a a situation where it doesn't look

650
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 2: like it's the right time, you should use your better

651
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 2: judgment and maybe wait until it is the right time.

652
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:54,760
Speaker 3: Okay, So not with a mouthful of chipol, Yeah, no, which.

653
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:55,920
Speaker 1: I love By the way, I've had it like three

654
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: or four times, and now I'm addicted to it.

655
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 3: I passed it on your timeline going back to this

656
00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 3: this post so good.

657
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: It is so good. I love it.

658
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 3: Okay, how about this one at swacks one? How come

659
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,360
Speaker 3: you never went ahead and posed for Playboy when you

660
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 3: used to be in ECW.

661
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: I just didn't want to do it.

662
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: I just didn't feel like it was something that I

663
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 2: wanted to do. No offense to those who did, but

664
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 2: it just wasn't for me, you know.

665
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 1: That's that's the only answer I have.

666
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 3: So funny that now in the time we are, how

667
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 3: that's not like considered a big thing anymore. Isn't that crazy?

668
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 3: How Like in the nineties that was a huge deal.

669
00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,239
Speaker 3: Now it's like, what are you going to do?

670
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 2: I feel like because so many women have done it,

671
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,920
Speaker 2: and like, if you know, back in the nineties, I

672
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,800
Speaker 2: was really comfortable with my body.

673
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: Obviously, I didn't mind that, you know, wearing the little

674
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 1: outfits and stuff. I was okay with it.

675
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: But I wasn't like one hundred percent willing to show everything,

676
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. But a lot of the

677
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 2: women were, and that's fine. It's like whatever's good for

678
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 2: you is good for you. Nowadays, it seems like, I think,

679
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 2: especially with like the Internet and everybody being able to

680
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 2: make tons of money off of the sex industry, more and.

681
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 1: More people are like doing well.

682
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 2: The dirty magazines aren't really out there, but like the

683
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 2: Only Fans and these other sites that you.

684
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 1: Can just pose nude on, and it's more I think

685
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: it's more accepted today than in the nineties, like almost like,

686
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 1: oh my god, playboys like taboo so to speak, like

687
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 1: it was a big deal if you post for playboys.

688
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: But I feel like with everybody showing the goods these days,

689
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: it's not that big of a deal, you know, and

690
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 2: you're making more money today than you would have back

691
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: then anyway.

692
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: So it's like the girls that didn't show the goods

693
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 1: in the nineties that.

694
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,839
Speaker 2: Are on Only Fans today, they're making so much more

695
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 2: money than they would have for a pictorial because I

696
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: don't even think they paid that great, Like you had

697
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: to be Playboy of the Year to get like one

698
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars according to the documentary that I saw,

699
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 2: so like a regular spread might have been five or

700
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: ten g's, which is great money. But it's like Okay,

701
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,320
Speaker 2: then what do you do? They never use you again?

702
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: You already showed everything so.

703
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 3: Well, I just waited out for a lot of your

704
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 3: favorites because they now.

705
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: I just it's just something that I never really aspired

706
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:56,560
Speaker 1: to do.

707
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 3: So just like I said, waited out for some of

708
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 3: your favorites, folks, because it's only a matter of time.

709
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 3: Like Britney spears on Instagram, I mean you don't need

710
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 3: to subscribe or wait for her to post or anything.

711
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: Just show on there. What didn't she show her boobs

712
00:39:12,200 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 1: or something on Instagram?

713
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 3: She just completely She just always goes out covering just

714
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 3: doing everything. But you know she does everything but show it.

715
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 3: But I mean, you know.

716
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: There's does she make money by doing that?

717
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: I'm sure she's monetizing her posts?

718
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: Way crazy, but h.

719
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 3: Liz just finished her book.

720
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,759
Speaker 1: Yeah. I write it in on a plane in like

721
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: an hour.

722
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 3: It's like it's written by a third grade.

723
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: It's so quick. It's so quick. But it's sad, Yeah,

724
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 1: she said for her, Yeah, yeah.

725
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're big fans of Britain in this house.

726
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:50,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm too.

727
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 3: All right, how about this one at case Underscore seventy eight,

728
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 3: which ECW Talent should be the next to go into

729
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:00,919
Speaker 3: the WW Hall of Fame.

730
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: Wow, well, I think that's a new brainer.

731
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:06,879
Speaker 2: I think it should be Paul Haman, and I think

732
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 2: it should be in April at WrestleMania and Philly. I

733
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 2: think that would be the ideal spot to do it.

734
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:21,840
Speaker 2: I feel like he deserves it. I also feel like

735
00:40:21,920 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: Todd Gordon should get some kind of accolade. But it'll

736
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 2: never ever happen, unfortunately. But yeah, if I had to

737
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: pick one person, it should be Paul Haman.

738
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,880
Speaker 3: It's a good pick. Very curious to see how they

739
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 3: do it, because you know, there's there's a lot of

740
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 3: rumors as to how the Hall of Fame's going to

741
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,879
Speaker 3: be constructed now the Triple H is running it. Yeah,

742
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 3: you know, obviously Philly, it's it's ECW country. But now

743
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 3: that Vince isn't around, you know, does Vince get inducted

744
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 3: into the Hall of Fame because he's not around?

745
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so, you know, Yeah, I don't.

746
00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:02,919
Speaker 1: I don't think.

747
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 2: I don't think Nail's the time to do that. I

748
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 2: think Philly should. I don't have they announced anyone yet.

749
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 3: No, no rumors, No, there's nothing on the table outside

750
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 3: of any ECW murmurs.

751
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:20,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, because at first, the big the big rumor was

752
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: that they were going to get like four or five

753
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: of us, and everybody was saying they're going to induct

754
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 2: E c W as a company, and I was just

755
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 2: like really, and then that kind of got shot down

756
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: and then it was like, oh, they're going to do

757
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 2: Paul and they're going to have.

758
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: A bunch of you behind Paul. I was like, uh okay,

759
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: and then I heard that got shot down and it

760
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: was like, just Paul, okay, you know, so who knows?

761
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:49,480
Speaker 1: I don't know.

762
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:53,919
Speaker 2: You can get a call the day before and say, hey,

763
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: you want to make a payday, come on down.

764
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: So uh, I have no.

765
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 3: Two oh three number on your phone? Is gonna come up?

766
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,400
Speaker 3: Fred Scene, get your get your little podcast buddy, get

767
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 3: your ass down here to Philly.

768
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, like he's gonna ask for you. What are

769
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: you saying?

770
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 3: I remember, I remember when he used to work here.

771
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 3: Get his ass down here again.

772
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:19,399
Speaker 2: He says, yeah, right, I doubt that, And I would

773
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: like that called a good a voicemail.

774
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: By the way, I wouldn't even pick it up.

775
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 3: He said, She's definitely gonna pick up.

776
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: Hellot no if I don't know the number. I don't

777
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: pick it up. Sorry.

778
00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:30,479
Speaker 2: Uh.

779
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 3: There's a follow up here with Case Underscore seventy eight. Also,

780
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 3: what is your favorite ECW pay per view and why

781
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 3: is it Heat Wave ninety eight and ninety nine?

782
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,440
Speaker 2: It is not, It is not he Wave ninety eight

783
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 2: and ninety nine. It will always be Barely Legal ninety

784
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,640
Speaker 2: seven because that is the first pay per view we've

785
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 2: ever done, and even though the match wasn't as great

786
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: as it could have been, the build up and the

787
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 2: raw raw session in the locker room beforehand will always

788
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 2: be in my head and in my memory and document

789
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 2: it by Barry Blaustein for years to come. So yeah,

790
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 2: that pay per view just always stands out to me.

791
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 2: It's the first, might not be the best, but it

792
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 2: was our first effort into that realm, and I'll never

793
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: forget that night ever.

794
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,280
Speaker 1: I watch clips of it and I still get chills.

795
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 2: It's something that we never thought we'd achieve and we

796
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,440
Speaker 2: did it, you know, and it's a big deal. It

797
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 2: was a big deal for us, So that's why it

798
00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 2: would always be my favorite.

799
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 3: Awesome so great at Pure Massacre eighty nine wants to

800
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,680
Speaker 3: know who did you have the most fun working with

801
00:43:47,840 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 3: besides Shane Douglas, of course, I.

802
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 2: Mean I enjoyed mostly ninety nine percent of that roster,

803
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,239
Speaker 2: but again, the Triple Threat was just.

804
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: So unique.

805
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 2: We were so close in and out of the ring,

806
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,320
Speaker 2: and I think that's what made it like so fun.

807
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:14,480
Speaker 2: You're working with like your best friends, and especially like Candido,

808
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 2: I said it a million times, like working with him

809
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:23,800
Speaker 2: was so easy, and he brought so much comedy into

810
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: the match and it just lightened the mood, especially if

811
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 2: like if I'm going out there with Shane for one match,

812
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 2: Chris for another match, Bammer for another match. There are

813
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:39,080
Speaker 2: so many different aspects and layers to the way that

814
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 2: each person works. And with Chris, again, I knew I

815
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,840
Speaker 2: didn't have to like go crazy memorizing things. I knew

816
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,359
Speaker 2: he had a million haja spots that we were going

817
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: to do and that it was just going to be

818
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:56,920
Speaker 2: a good time. So I enjoyed almost everybody, but like

819
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,040
Speaker 2: Chris just made it his.

820
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 1: Deical on a different level. It's just easy working with him.

821
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:11,879
Speaker 3: Great choice. How about this one, Scott Cassilius six zero

822
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 3: six two. You know Scott from a couple different posts

823
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 3: that he's he's made. He wants to know your top

824
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 3: ten favorite wrestler entrance themes. But we're gonna narrow it

825
00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 3: down to top three.

826
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,440
Speaker 1: Oh jesus, we're.

827
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 3: Gonna edit that top three top three.

828
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: Jeez, I I have my top two. I need a third.

829
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: Second favorite was Ravens Entrance music, Come out and Play.

830
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: Love that song?

831
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:56,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that one I always enjoyed walking out to.

832
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 2: My favorite ever was pg's snap your Finger, Snap your Neck.

833
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 2: I love that song. That was fun coming out too.

834
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 2: I told Shane so many times. He would always be like,

835
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 2: are you kidding me? Perfect strangers? I guess fit, but it.

836
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: Wasn't my favorite.

837
00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 3: Kills me every time you say it kills me.

838
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 1: I didn't like yeah, like that wasn't my favorite.

839
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:21,759
Speaker 2: Man in the Box I hate it walking out the

840
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 2: Man in the Box with Dreamer like that song didn't.

841
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: They're not fun. I couldn't like bounce and dance to

842
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 1: it like I want something.

843
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 2: I can get a mirring and I can like groove

844
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: too and those song Oh, and the worst song Terry

845
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 2: Funk I Love You, but Desperado. Oh if I had

846
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,759
Speaker 2: to walk out the Desperado, I know that people are

847
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 2: saying blasphemy. I just didn't like that song. It's depressing

848
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 2: as hell. I don't know, but those are my top two.

849
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 2: I can't think of a third.

850
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think.

851
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:02,400
Speaker 2: Can I say the NW theme for number even though

852
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 2: I didn't walk out to it, but I would.

853
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:05,719
Speaker 1: Have loved to.

854
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 3: Yeah that porno music?

855
00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,440
Speaker 2: Yeah right, yeah, so that's that. That would be my

856
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 2: top three, I guess. But worst one of all time Desperado.

857
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 3: It's a great song, just not a wrestling theme.

858
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: Desperado, Man in a Box Perfect Strangers was good, but

859
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: it just I don't know.

860
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:33,359
Speaker 2: I think it fits Shane and I though I do,

861
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 2: but it wasn't that fun though.

862
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,400
Speaker 3: Hey, if it's not fun for you, you sure you surefooled

863
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,520
Speaker 3: me because you sure looked great coming out through it

864
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 3: all the time.

865
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:47,319
Speaker 1: With him, it wasn't fun to dance to dance. Is

866
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 1: not a dancer.

867
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 2: He won't dance like if if he does, he like

868
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 2: does it for like two seconds and that's it.

869
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 1: Come on, So.

870
00:47:57,320 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 3: But he's he doesn't have to dance. He just has

871
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 3: to deviously laugh as he's walking.

872
00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: We did. We did a convention once and next to

873
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:05,320
Speaker 1: us was a Latin.

874
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:10,400
Speaker 2: A Latin dance troop and they were giving Sauce a

875
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: lessons and it was like it'd have a table. It

876
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,200
Speaker 2: was like a really big dance and I said, oh

877
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: my god, let's go take the lessons.

878
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 1: And he wouldn't do it.

879
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 2: So I went over by myself and I took the

880
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 2: lessons from the god they were right.

881
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,919
Speaker 1: Next to us. But he wouldn't even do that. I'm

882
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: like it, just have fun, you know, he's not a dancer.

883
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 3: Well, they could teach him how to dance, and he

884
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 3: could teach them how to pantomime, you know, how to

885
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 3: kiss his as whatever. He could say into the camera.

886
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he didn't want to. He doesn't dance.

887
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 3: That's funny, all right, mostly for chicks. If you could

888
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:48,880
Speaker 3: bring one wrestler from today back to prime ECW to manage,

889
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:49,759
Speaker 3: who would it be?

890
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: Stop Ziggler. Yeah, you said that a lot, that a

891
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: million times.

892
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:59,200
Speaker 3: Let's pick somebody else. He's retired, now, don't pick him,

893
00:48:59,360 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 3: he's not.

894
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: He's still. Here's somebody else. Oh god, I don't know.

895
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: I don't know.

896
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 3: He'd be my pick, all right, fine, dolfh Ziggler.

897
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 1: I just think he's like perfect, He's the perfect package.

898
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 3: Uh at Mike m A Butts. Mike Butts. Uh, did

899
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 3: you ever fear? Yeah, Mike Butts, that's Seymour, It's it's

900
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:27,800
Speaker 3: his brother.

901
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 1: Mike brother.

902
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 3: Did you ever fear for your own safety working at

903
00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:32,320
Speaker 3: the arena in South Philly?

904
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 2: Again, let's go back to that other question that I

905
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 2: answered five minutes ago.

906
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: Of course I did. Do I have to reiterate what

907
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 1: I just said.

908
00:49:42,120 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 3: I'm just going through what's left on the other.

909
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, just people hitting you is not a good time.

910
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 2: So walking down that, especially when the aisleway was this big,

911
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 2: like very very small, and you had sometimes I literally

912
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 2: had to walk sideways to fit through, and then like

913
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: Atlas would be on each side of me, and you

914
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:01,720
Speaker 2: would see.

915
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: The hands coming over Atlas underneath and you know, the armpit.

916
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 3: And them doing this.

917
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,359
Speaker 2: Yes, and thank God for that because they, I mean,

918
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 2: they did their job.

919
00:50:14,800 --> 00:50:16,959
Speaker 1: But once in a while somebody would get by them,

920
00:50:17,360 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: and I was.

921
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 2: Always scared until I got to the end of the

922
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 2: aisle and then I had more space to like.

923
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: Be free.

924
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,720
Speaker 3: So did you get like groped, Like did you literally

925
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 3: get of course, I mean that is that an instant

926
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 3: turn around and get that guy out of here. Do

927
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 3: you not know who did it?

928
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 1: Somebody grabs your wife's boob?

929
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 3: Are you like in a crowd like that? Do you

930
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 3: know who did it?

931
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: Or do you not him who did it? But sometimes,

932
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,640
Speaker 1: like if I felt something.

933
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 2: I'd try and grab their hand and hold them and

934
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 2: then you know, you turn around and you got this

935
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 2: guy's hand, and then Atlas would be right there and

936
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 2: I'd be like get.

937
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 3: Them out, oh wow? Or does the crowd help you

938
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:58,600
Speaker 3: and be like it was him?

939
00:50:58,920 --> 00:50:59,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.

940
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:03,120
Speaker 2: Sometimes they'd stowed them off too, Yeah, for sure. But

941
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 2: there were times when I, you know, somebody would touch me.

942
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:06,800
Speaker 2: I didn't know where it came from.

943
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 3: Damn, who does that? Like? Who would they do that? Hurt?

944
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:15,920
Speaker 1: We're a drunk guy. Maybe he drank too much because

945
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: you know I was usually towards the end of the show.

946
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm not gonna pat myself on the back

947
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 2: foot main event, but yeah, things happen. You know, you

948
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:29,720
Speaker 2: put alcohol out there and guys get a little rowdy.

949
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 2: No I'm not justifying it, but it did happen, and uh,

950
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 2: they get knocked on their ass for it.

951
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 3: Thank you set them up and knock them down. We'll

952
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 3: do two more here, very odd question for this guy

953
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 3: to ask this, But Pope John Paul the third, Oh

954
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 3: my gosh, all right, No, have you ever been interviewed

955
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 3: about the ecw catfights.

956
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:55,600
Speaker 1: About a hundred times? Hello?

957
00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 3: He would want to know about that, Hope, John.

958
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 2: Paul Good lord, Yeah, I mean, what does he want

959
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 2: to know about them?

960
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 3: That's a vague question, just wants to know if you've

961
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 3: ever been interviewed specifically about them.

962
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,480
Speaker 2: People have asked questions, how you know, how are they?

963
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 2: How was it doing performing you know, doing them? And

964
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:23,320
Speaker 2: I say somewhere better than others moosset were scripted, couple

965
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,440
Speaker 2: wor shoot, we'll leave it at that.

966
00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 3: And I guess this last one would be more about

967
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:35,000
Speaker 3: the story that Todd Gordon told us on the air,

968
00:52:35,040 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 3: and it's in his book. So I'm going to kind

969
00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 3: of I'll ask this question, but I'll also kind of

970
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 3: rephrase it to kind of fit maybe something that you're

971
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 3: familiar with. But the question is by Jason Fields at

972
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 3: j Fields eighty five. I want to know about the

973
00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 3: Sandman story about hiding cocaine around the famous ecw Ocono

974
00:52:54,719 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 3: lodge back in the day. So obviously I believe he's

975
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,240
Speaker 3: talking about the story that Todd Gordon in the book where.

976
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: I wasn't there.

977
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, he hit it underneath the pot and found that

978
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 3: flower pot found it that had helped hit it underneath

979
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,879
Speaker 3: the carpet. Let's rephrase that too. Do you remember any

980
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 3: kind of crazy stories involving wrestlers maybe hiding things in

981
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:22,920
Speaker 3: places that were odd and you know, might have been

982
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,760
Speaker 3: similar to this Sandman story.

983
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 2: No, I don't, And that's why it popped to like

984
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 2: so huge when I heard that story, because I never

985
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,880
Speaker 2: never heard that story. In the last thirty years of

986
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 2: my life, I've never heard that story, So that's pretty funny.

987
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 2: The only thing I can remember, like especially about the

988
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 2: Travel Lodge when I used to stay there in the beginning,

989
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 2: I just remember like sometimes there was blood on the walls.

990
00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:53,879
Speaker 1: It was like one of the.

991
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 2: Most disgusting hotels ever, but it was so cheap and

992
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 2: that's where everybody stayed, you know. I'm pretty sure there

993
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:09,120
Speaker 2: was like chalk outlines of bodies on the carpet.

994
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:13,040
Speaker 1: Like it was bad, stains everywhere, stains.

995
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 2: All over the bed, like just disgusting. And I'm very

996
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:21,320
Speaker 2: grateful for Shane to get me out of there and

997
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 2: tell me I need to stay at the Marriotte because

998
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 2: that place was as fun as it was, it was

999
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 2: just a cesspool of every disease you.

1000
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,440
Speaker 1: Can imagine, so gross.

1001
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 2: So but as far as hiding drugs, I wasn't. I

1002
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 2: was friends with the drug addicts, but I wasn't in

1003
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 2: the drug scene, so while they were partaking after hours,

1004
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 2: I really wasn't hanging with them, right, So I'm.

1005
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:52,920
Speaker 1: Not prevy to these stories.

1006
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 2: A lot of these stories about finding cocaine and you.

1007
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: Know, smoking and all that stuff. I didn't do it.

1008
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,560
Speaker 3: It's a great story though, if you have Todd Gordon's.

1009
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: Book, that's a classic story.

1010
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 2: And if you again, if you haven't read and go

1011
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 2: get Todd is God because it's hilarious. But yeah, I

1012
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,360
Speaker 2: wasn't really there for that, but I could totally see

1013
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 2: it happening.

1014
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 3: And it's also on our YouTube Live with Todd Gordon

1015
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 3: he tells it as well.

1016
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, forget the book, go watch just.

1017
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,919
Speaker 3: More detail in the book. But I mean just see

1018
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 3: the image of Sam Man running down the hall with

1019
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 3: the guys rooting him on and him picking up the

1020
00:55:34,239 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 3: flower pot and hilarious crazy stuff. But that is it

1021
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:39,200
Speaker 3: for the question.

1022
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:40,399
Speaker 1: There were some good ones.

1023
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,600
Speaker 2: I'm glad we went back and and looked into those

1024
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 2: because it got me this morning. I was like, I'm

1025
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 2: pretty sure they left them on YouTube as well, So

1026
00:55:50,120 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 2: good find.

1027
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 3: Absolutely. So we'll do this again down the road, and

1028
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,359
Speaker 3: hopefully we'll switch up the questions a little bit, so

1029
00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 3: we know who you'll manage. If you go back and

1030
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 3: pull somebody from the future and go to ECW, we

1031
00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 3: know who. Yeah you take somebody, Yeah, yeah, you know

1032
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 3: you're coming from today? Yeah, going back, you know. So

1033
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 3: we'll switch up the questions a little bit next time.

1034
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 3: If you're listening to.

1035
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,720
Speaker 1: This, yeah that sounds good.

1036
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:21,960
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1037
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1038
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1039
00:56:29,080 --> 00:56:32,040
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1040
00:56:32,080 --> 00:56:34,759
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