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Speaker 2: Welcome in Episode two eleven, What's right with Nick?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: All right, so a few housekeeping items before we get going.
Speaker 2: Demanse not here today. Sadly, Demonse hurt himself pretty badly
Speaker 2: playing basketball the other night. I mean, he's gonna be fine,
Speaker 2: but uh, hurt his leg and so he is out.
Speaker 2: He is getting that checked on. We all wish Demonse
Speaker 2: our best.
Speaker 3: Sucks.
Speaker 2: This guy played his entire from the day he was
Speaker 2: born until he went off to college. He never suffered
Speaker 2: a single injury of any sort playing sports or otherwise.
Speaker 2: And then, kind of heartbreakingly if you ask me, his
Speaker 2: body kind of betrayed him over the last five years.
Speaker 3: He's suffered a couple.
Speaker 2: Very significant injuries in college, got hurt post college, and
Speaker 2: now playing ball in LA hurt his ankle pretty badly.
Speaker 2: And so we wish Demonse our best. He's going to
Speaker 2: get the news on that tomorrow and hopefully he can
Speaker 2: be back sometime soon. But that's why he's not in
Speaker 2: today in Happier News. You may have seen and by
Speaker 2: the way, if you're you know, in if you want
Speaker 2: to send Demonse well wishes via social media, do that
Speaker 2: if you wanna. You know, I'm sure he's got nothing
Speaker 2: but time on his hands at the moment, so I'm
Speaker 2: sure he's probably running some great Fortnite sessions.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what.
Speaker 2: His what his dating situation is, but if anybody wants to,
Speaker 2: you know, send him a nice, hear, heartfelt message, I'm
Speaker 2: sure it'd be greatly appreciated.
Speaker 3: Now in Happier News, there you go. Appreciate that. Guys.
Speaker 2: You guys have seen me a couple times wear these
Speaker 2: Chip Bully sweatshirts. So it's my buddy, Joe Black's brand
Speaker 2: poker player. Joe is right now at the Borgatta in
Speaker 2: a multi day five thousand dollars buy in tournament. First
Speaker 2: place is a little over six hundred thousand dollars, and
Speaker 2: if you check the website given the updates, there's seventeen
Speaker 2: people left and my buddy Joe chip Bully himself is
Speaker 2: he's a massive chip leader with seventeen left with a
Speaker 2: little over six hundred thousand up top and so listen,
Speaker 2: long ways to go. They get the cards in the
Speaker 2: air in about ninety minutes. I wish I could go
Speaker 2: down and watch him, but I have the show. The
Speaker 2: final table will be streamed tomorrow. Hopefully he's in it,
Speaker 2: and really happy for him, so trying to send good
Speaker 2: vibes his way by wearing the chip Bully gear. And actually,
Speaker 2: since I know he's prepping, if we could clip this
Speaker 2: little section, if you guys could send it to me,
Speaker 2: I want to text it to him before the cards
Speaker 2: get in the air. But we have a ton of
Speaker 2: actual work to do today. Here is what missed the
Speaker 2: cut for today's show. Te Pain do It halftime show
Speaker 2: for Kansity Baltimore. I want to be on the record,
Speaker 2: I'm anti halftime shows for anything but the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: I think halftime shows of non Super Bowl football games
Speaker 2: should exclusively be uh, dogs doing awesome things, or kids
Speaker 2: playing flag football games, or mascot's wrecking kids in flag
Speaker 2: football games. That should be the entirety of halftime. Halftime
Speaker 2: of NBA games should either be a magic act or
Speaker 2: somebody you know, red Panda throwing the balls on her
Speaker 2: head something cool like that, or once again, dogs, but
Speaker 2: musical acts should be reserved for the Super Bowl. Australian
Speaker 2: Open semiser underway. We're not going to get into that.
Speaker 2: And the Team USA playerpool announced. I saw the thing.
Speaker 2: Oh man, they didn't pick Draymond Green because of his outbursts.
Speaker 3: Really, it's funny.
Speaker 2: I thought they didn't pick Raymond Green because he's not
Speaker 2: good enough anymore to be on Team USA.
Speaker 3: Who knows?
Speaker 2: All?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Major news before we get to conference championship a weekend.
Speaker 2: Jim Harbaugh heading to the Los Angeles Chargers. That is
Speaker 2: our top story today, and everyone wants to know. Nick
Speaker 2: you nervous? I mean we basically could just re rack
Speaker 2: from this time last year. Sean Payton heading to the
Speaker 2: Denver Broncos. Nick you nervous, No, I'm not nervous.
Speaker 3: For the Chiefs.
Speaker 2: But Harbaugh is an excellent coach, and you could make
Speaker 2: an argument that of all the coaching candidates Rabel, Belichick,
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson, Harbaugh, all of them, that Harbaugh is the
Speaker 2: best one, and he not surprisingly went to the team
Speaker 2: with the best quarterbacks. So they will be better, There's
Speaker 2: no doubt about that. And maybe we see Justin Herbert,
Speaker 2: who came into the league as an A minus, which
Speaker 2: was unbelievable for a rookie, and now, in my opinion,
Speaker 2: has just maintained his status as an A minus, which
Speaker 2: is then a little disappointing. Maybe we see him get
Speaker 2: a tick or two better and the team as a
Speaker 2: whole better coached. The problem for the Chargers is this,
Speaker 2: and I hate to, on conference championship weekend start the
Speaker 2: podcast with some cap nerd stuff, but we have to.
Speaker 2: The Chargers are one of a handful of teams that
Speaker 2: really took their shot and now have to retool a
Speaker 2: bit so going into next season. The Los Angeles the
Speaker 2: cap space available to teams. The team with the least
Speaker 2: cap space eighty million over the cap. It's of course
Speaker 2: the Saints. Now Saints fans will tell us the cap
Speaker 2: is fake. Nick, you don't understand it. But that's because
Speaker 2: they've been being lied to by their local media for
Speaker 2: years and years and people covering the team. That bill
Speaker 2: has been coming due over the last few years. It's
Speaker 2: why that team can't get over the hump. And the
Speaker 2: bill is fully coming due here in short order for them.
Speaker 2: But after the Saints, the Dolphins and Bills both fifty
Speaker 2: million over the cap, and the Chargers forty four million
Speaker 2: over the cap, what do all three of those teams
Speaker 2: have in common? All three of those teams thought, you
Speaker 2: know what, we can go win right now, let's borrow
Speaker 2: a bit from the future. And if we're Miami, screw it.
Speaker 2: We have Wattle. We're gonna go get Tyreek Kill. We're
Speaker 2: gonna trade for Jalen Ramsey. We're gonna upgrade our pass rush.
Speaker 2: We're gonna try to win while our quarterbacks on his
Speaker 2: rookie contract. Buffalo, we're so close. We're so close. We're
Speaker 2: so close. You know what, We're gonna bring back Poyer
Speaker 2: and hide this. You know in the past. We're gonna
Speaker 2: go out in the big mistake, go out and sign
Speaker 2: Von Miller. We a few years ago. We're gonna instead
Speaker 2: of drafting a wide receiver. We're gonna trade that first
Speaker 2: round pick for a very expensive wide receiver and stuff
Speaker 2: on Diggs. We're trying to go right now. And then
Speaker 2: there's the Chargers that traded for Khalil Mack, that kept,
Speaker 2: brought Eckler back, that kept Mike Williams, kept Keenan Allen,
Speaker 2: paid Derwin James paid Joey Bosa, paid justin Herbert, and
Speaker 2: now the team is in a position wherein we'll go
Speaker 2: through it quickly. They have one more year of Herbert cheap.
Speaker 2: He's at twenty million next year, But that also means
Speaker 2: you can't really restructure Herbert's deal to free up a
Speaker 2: bunch of cap space. Eckler is a free agent. You
Speaker 2: have no other running back you trust. Keenan Allen next
Speaker 2: season right now has a thirty four million dollar cap hit.
Speaker 2: He is going to be either extended, which I would
Speaker 2: be nervous about at his age, restructured, but there's only
Speaker 2: a year left, so again that's just adding void years
Speaker 2: barring from the future, or cut to save twenty three
Speaker 2: million bucks. Mike Williams next year has a thirty two
Speaker 2: million dollar cap hit. You can save twenty million on
Speaker 2: the cap by cutting him, maybe you extend him because
Speaker 2: they're both Alan and Mike Williams are on the last
Speaker 2: year of their deal. But they drafted Quinton Johnston believing
Speaker 2: they were gonna move on for Mike Williams. But you
Speaker 2: can't have Keenan Allen and Mike Williams combined for sixty
Speaker 2: seven million dollar cap hit, and Quinton Johnston obviously had
Speaker 2: one of the most disappointing rookie seasons of any highly
Speaker 2: drafted wide receiver.
Speaker 3: Last few years.
Speaker 2: You keep it moving and you're like, okay, what about
Speaker 2: the rest of their team. They obviously have a star
Speaker 2: left tackle and Rashawn Slater. They have to extend him.
Speaker 2: They cannot let him go, and the rest of the
Speaker 2: offensive line has a big question mark. Corey Linsley unfortunately
Speaker 2: has some health issues. He's got a fourteen million dollar
Speaker 2: cap hit. You wonder if he they have to move
Speaker 2: on from him, but he's a good player when he's healthy.
Speaker 2: Defensively is where the pain is really coming. They don't
Speaker 2: have a single d lineman you love, and they're not
Speaker 2: gonna have this the cap space to go out and
Speaker 2: improve it. Bosa and mac Khalil Mack next year, last
Speaker 2: year of his deal thirty eight million dollars on the cap. Again,
Speaker 2: you can extend him at thirty three years old if
Speaker 2: you want. He's coming off a great year, but that
Speaker 2: would be risky if you ask me. You can move
Speaker 2: on from him and save twenty three million, but he
Speaker 2: was the best player on your defense last year. Joey Bosa,
Speaker 2: who has not lived up to he when he's healthy
Speaker 2: and right, looks awesome, but how often is that Joey
Speaker 2: Bosa thirty six million on the cap next season, and
Speaker 2: moving on from him, which they're not gonna do, doesn't
Speaker 2: even save you that much money. And then, of course
Speaker 2: there's Derwin James, who at time, James looks like at
Speaker 2: early in his career he's gonna be the best safety
Speaker 2: in football. Instead, he's just been very good, but he
Speaker 2: is paid like he's the best safety in football. So
Speaker 2: and by the way, they have twenty million debt against
Speaker 2: the cap next year because of the J. C. Jackson disaster.
Speaker 2: I say all that to say this, the Chargers are
Speaker 2: not going to have enough talent to be a true contender.
Speaker 2: They don't have the money to fill in their holes,
Speaker 2: and they are going to have to move on from
Speaker 2: some of their more productive older players. So in a
Speaker 2: few years we'll see what the Chargers look like. And
Speaker 2: because of hardball, they are scary adjacent. But the they
Speaker 2: are right now not competing with the Chiefs. Right now,
Speaker 2: they are competing with the Jags, the Broncos, the other
Speaker 2: theoretically talented teams that just missed out on the playoffs
Speaker 2: to try to get back in the tournament. Because when
Speaker 2: we talk about when you look at the AFC and
Speaker 2: you say, Okay, who are we confident next season is
Speaker 2: going to be a playoff team. I know it changes
Speaker 2: year over year, but with the seven playoff spots that
Speaker 2: it's very And I understand there's injuries, but Kansas City's
Speaker 2: not going anywhere. Cincinnati was despite all the quarterback injuries
Speaker 2: and Burrow being hurt before and then during the year,
Speaker 2: still won nine games. I don't think Houston's getting worse.
Speaker 2: I don't think Baltimore's going anywhere, and I don't think Buffalo,
Speaker 2: as far as missing the playoffs, is going to go anywhere.
Speaker 3: That's five guys.
Speaker 2: That doesn't mention Miami, that doesn't mention Cleveland, that doesn't
Speaker 2: mention Pittsburgh, that doesn't mention the Jags, that doesn't mention
Speaker 2: the Chargers the Broncos. Obviously the Chargers made a great hire.
Speaker 2: That hire does not make them anything close to a
Speaker 2: Super Bowl contender, all right, Next, Lamar Jackson. So I
Speaker 2: did an all time quarterback pyramid that I'm getting some
Speaker 2: pushback on because it was I'll try to do it
Speaker 2: off the top of my head. But here's you know,
Speaker 2: it's a pyramid. So it's one guy in row one,
Speaker 2: two in row two, so on and so forth. And
Speaker 2: this was the pyramid. Row one was Brady, Row two
Speaker 2: was Mahomes and Manning. Row three was Montana, Lway and.
Speaker 3: Marino.
Speaker 2: So there's the top six. Row four was Rogers, Farv
Speaker 2: Staubach and.
Speaker 3: Steve Young.
Speaker 2: Steve Young, who I think is eternally underrated. I think
Speaker 2: Steve Young the only quarterback I've ever seen that reminded
Speaker 2: me that Mahomes reminds me of is Steve Young. And
Speaker 2: then row five was Bradshaw, Breeze, Kurt Warner, Aikman, and
Speaker 2: then in the last spot was Lamar, which means I
Speaker 2: had him ahead of Big Ben, Jim Kelly. And this
Speaker 2: was post merger, so I'm not counting Bart Starr and
Speaker 2: Johnny Unitis, and those guys had him ahead of If
Speaker 2: you guys in the control room think there's anyone else that's,
Speaker 2: you know, fringe that I didn't mention, tell me, but
Speaker 2: I had him ahead of every one of them, those guys,
Speaker 2: I just want and I called him a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 3: I want to be very clear on this.
Speaker 2: Calling him a Hall of Famer is not really a
Speaker 2: judgment call.
Speaker 3: At this point. He has two MVPs.
Speaker 2: I'm assigning him this year's MVP because he's going to
Speaker 2: win it.
Speaker 3: That makes him a Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: Here is the full list of people with multiple NFL MVPs.
Speaker 2: Peyton Mannings got five, Aaron's got four, Jim Brown, Johnny
Speaker 2: united Is, Brett faarv Tom Brady have three. Joe Montana,
Speaker 2: Steve Young, Kurt Warner, Patrick Mahomes all have two, and
Speaker 2: now so does Lamar Jackson. Kurt Warner got in. He
Speaker 2: didn't get in on his first year of eligibility, but
Speaker 2: he got in, and I don't think many people were
Speaker 2: worried that he wasn't going to get in. Steve Young
Speaker 2: got in either on his first or second year of eligibility.
Speaker 2: Everyone else was a first ballot guy it is unequivocal
Speaker 2: that Lamar Jackson with two MVPs is going to be.
Speaker 3: A Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2: And if you want to argue like that, putting him
Speaker 2: in that pantheon is too premature. He now has the
Speaker 2: pelts on the wall that says it's not now.
Speaker 3: As far as.
Speaker 2: This game itself, people are wondering, all right, we have
Speaker 2: been trying to create a Brady Manning for Patrick Mahomes,
Speaker 2: and it was Josh Allen. People briefly flirted with the
Speaker 2: idea of it being Burrow. They then really tried to
Speaker 2: sell us all week last week again that it was
Speaker 2: Josh Allen and now people want it to be Lamar.
Speaker 2: But and I talked about this on the TV show,
Speaker 2: but it's worth time again here.
Speaker 3: People are.
Speaker 2: Misremembering what Brady Manning was. Brady Manning was a legitimate,
Speaker 2: real debate that there was not a vast majority on
Speaker 2: one side or the other for the entirety of Peyton
Speaker 2: Manning's career when they went Brady and Manning's career when
Speaker 2: they overlapped.
Speaker 3: So let me lay it out for you. Okay, let's
Speaker 3: go to.
Speaker 2: Heading into the two thousand and six NFL season up
Speaker 2: to that point, and I want to make sure I
Speaker 2: have this right. Peyton Manning already had two league MVPs
Speaker 2: and Tom Brady hadn't sniffed one. Conversely, up to that
Speaker 2: point they had played twice in the playoffs. Peyton hadn't
Speaker 2: played well in either game, Brady had beaten him both times,
Speaker 2: and Brady had three rings.
Speaker 3: So in the mid two thousand aughts, it was well.
Speaker 2: One guy, I test accolades stats is so clearly better.
Speaker 2: The other guy, on the other hand, has three Super
Speaker 2: Bowl rings. Is two to zero against him in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: You could make strong arguments on either side. Then in
Speaker 2: the two thousand and six season, they play once again
Speaker 2: in the playoffs tom Brady, but for the first time
Speaker 2: it's in Peyton's building. Tom Brady's team is up twenty
Speaker 2: one to three at halftime. It looks like it's going
Speaker 2: to just be another time the Patriots roll, Peyton's team
Speaker 2: storms all the way back, then goes on to win
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl two weeks later. And now the playoff
Speaker 2: matchups are two to one, the Super Bowls are three
Speaker 2: to one, but Peyton's got a couple MVPs. Okay smash
Speaker 2: cut Now forward five more years. Tom Brady now has
Speaker 2: won a couple MVPs and has made a couple more
Speaker 2: Super Bowls, but has lost them both. Peyton made another
Speaker 2: Super Bowl, won another two MVPs, but didn't win the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Peyton goes to Denver. They play in the
Speaker 2: postseason in Denver. Peyton out plays him, Peyton's team wins.
Speaker 2: Peyton wins his fifth MVP, has a fifty five touchdown season.
Speaker 2: The playoff records are now two to two. Peyton is
Speaker 2: now going to another Super Bowl. In that Tom Brady
Speaker 2: hasn't won a super Bowl in a decade. In that moment,
Speaker 2: most people thought Brady Manning is Peyton.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: They then lose that Super Bowl. The Patriots win the
Speaker 2: next year, so now it's four to one Super Bowls Peyton.
Speaker 2: Then in twenty fifteen they play again in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Peyton beats him again, even though Peyton that year was
Speaker 2: not good. The Broncos win the Super Bowl and Peyton retires.
Speaker 2: So the day Peyton retired, the ledger looked like this.
Speaker 2: It was MVPs were five to two Peyton. Playoff matchups
Speaker 2: were three to two in Peyton's favor.
Speaker 3: Super Bowls were four to two.
Speaker 2: In Brady's favor, and a lot of people the day
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning retired believed that's the best quarterback of his generation.
Speaker 2: And then after he retired, Tom Brady in twenty sixteen
Speaker 2: went to the Super Bowl, had the twenty eight to
Speaker 2: three comeback, got his fifth ring. In twenty seventeen, went
Speaker 2: to the Super Bowl, threw for five hundred yards, lost
Speaker 2: in a shootout, twenty and one League MVP. Twenty eighteen,
Speaker 2: went to beat Patrick Mahomes in the AFC Title Game
Speaker 2: in a classic, went to the Super Bowl, won it.
Speaker 2: That's his sixth ring. Twenty nineteen, last year with the Patriots,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty went to Tampa Bay, went to the Super Bowl,
Speaker 2: won Super Bowl MVP, and twenty twenty one came in
Speaker 2: second and League MVP and now Peyton Tom it's not
Speaker 2: even a debate. So but for the entirety of when
Speaker 2: their careers overlapped, there were strong arguments on both sides
Speaker 2: of it. So I give that history to say this.
Speaker 2: There is no goddamn Peyton Brady for Mahomes anyone, there
Speaker 2: is no argument, there is no rival. Now it doesn't
Speaker 2: mean no one will ever beat him. Hell, Joe Burrow
Speaker 2: beat him. Lamar might beat him on Sunday.
Speaker 3: We'll see.
Speaker 2: But it is far far closer to Tiger Phil or
Speaker 2: Gretzky Lemieux or Gretzky Messier than anything we've seen in
Speaker 2: the NFL, where there is a unquestioned, clear best and
Speaker 2: then a different people jockeying for second best. That's what
Speaker 2: the rivalry actually is. Lamar versus Burrow and Josh. That's
Speaker 2: the rivalry so I and by the way, Lamar might win.
Speaker 2: They might win this weekend. I folks that watch this
Speaker 2: show or watch.
Speaker 3: The TV show.
Speaker 2: No, I thought it was going to be impossible for
Speaker 2: Miami to win in the wildcard round. I thought the
Speaker 2: Chiefs were clearly the better team than Buffalo, and I
Speaker 2: thought they were gonna win by ten. The fumbled the
Speaker 2: goal line, blew that. But whatever I was, as Brew
Speaker 2: would say, ten toes down confident in both of those games.
Speaker 2: To me, this is a sixty to forty game, sixty
Speaker 2: five to thirty five game. Now, I think the Chiefs
Speaker 2: should be favored because if Patrick Mahomes isn't playing Tom
Speaker 2: Brady in the playoffs, he's thirteen and one and the
Speaker 2: one is an overtime loss to Burrow, and I don't
Speaker 2: think anybody when Patrick's healthy. Hell, last year, he wasn't healthy.
Speaker 2: I mean the last interception Patrick threw in the playoffs
Speaker 2: was in that loss to Joe Burrow. Five straight games
Speaker 2: without an interception in the playoffs, league record, and so
Speaker 2: I I understand that the Ravens are an excellent team
Speaker 2: and Lamar's playing the best football of his life.
Speaker 3: But there is no rivalry.
Speaker 2: There isn't And the producers are asking me if this
Speaker 2: is me hedging. This isn't me hedging, This is me
Speaker 2: giving my honest thoughts.
Speaker 3: No matter how.
Speaker 2: How do you say this, no matter how good I
Speaker 2: believe the Chiefs are. I recognize that this is not
Speaker 2: a year where they are head and shoulders better than
Speaker 2: the second or third best teams in football. Now, I
Speaker 2: do believe this Sunday at three o'clock on CBS is
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. The winner of Sunday's game is going
Speaker 2: to roll in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: I believe that.
Speaker 2: Sorry to my Lions fan friends, and I guess less star.
Speaker 2: Sorry to the my Niners fan friends because Niner fans
Speaker 2: hate me. So I don't think I have a lot
Speaker 2: of friends in the Bay Area.
Speaker 3: Sadly, but this is gonna be a great game.
Speaker 2: And the other thing the producers asked me is and
Speaker 2: I'm more afraid of Lamar with his arm or his legs.
Speaker 2: This is not about Lamar. It's more about how the
Speaker 2: Chiefs are built. I'm more afraid of him with his legs.
Speaker 2: I trust the Chiefs corners. I think the Chiefs have
Speaker 2: the best pair of corners in football, and I am
Speaker 2: interested in if they get Mark Andrew's back, if that
Speaker 2: is going to be as good for Baltimore as they think.
Speaker 2: Because Lamar, once Mark Andrews went down, was kind of
Speaker 2: forced to start to diversify his receiving options. I wonder
Speaker 2: if Mark Andrews out there, if he tries to force
Speaker 2: him the ball, but maybe not that now Andrews likely
Speaker 2: in a two tight end set that could be tough.
Speaker 3: To deal with.
Speaker 2: Ravens are a very very good team, but I think
Speaker 2: the Chiefs defense and Ravens defense is a wash.
Speaker 3: I think that.
Speaker 2: As well as Lamar is played, it is unquestioned which
Speaker 2: quarterback you trust more in this game. And Lamar with
Speaker 2: his legs breaking contain is a scary thought. But the
Speaker 2: Chiefs had a pretty good game plan for that last
Speaker 2: week against Josh and the Bills, where they gave them
Speaker 2: all the short stuff they wanted and because of that
Speaker 2: they kind of got eaten up on the ground. But
Speaker 2: what they didn't do was give up a single play
Speaker 2: of twenty plus yards. All right, next, you guys, right,
Speaker 2: you've been calling the Chiefs disrespected all year. Being a
Speaker 2: three and a half point road dog versus the best
Speaker 2: team in the league seems part for the Meanwhile, the
Speaker 2: Lions are a full touchdown dog after San Francisco nearly
Speaker 2: lost to Green Bay a week ago. Who is actually
Speaker 2: the disrespected team? Well, the Chiefs have been disrespected the
Speaker 2: entire season, as if no one had watched football or
Speaker 2: Mahomes prior to this year. It was ridiculous. This weekend,
Speaker 2: it is the Lions. The Lions have been It's very
Speaker 2: odd because the Lions started the year off by going
Speaker 2: to Kansas City with thirty million people watching. However, many
Speaker 2: people were watching and beating the Chiefs, and despite that,
Speaker 2: they've never really gotten the respective. Oh, they're a cute team,
Speaker 2: they're a good story. And I'm guilty of that to
Speaker 2: a degree as well. I haven't looked at the Lions
Speaker 2: as an A List contender, and they are a game.
Speaker 3: Away from the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: A lot of that has to do with the fact
Speaker 2: that I think it's twofold. One is the Lions stars
Speaker 2: skill guys have art haven't been stars as long as
Speaker 2: some of the other team stars skill guys, even if
Speaker 2: they're just as good.
Speaker 3: Gibbs is awesome.
Speaker 2: Laporta but before he got hurt was arguably as a
Speaker 2: rookie having the best year of any tight end, and
Speaker 2: Aman Ross Saint Brown might be the most overlooked awesome, awesome.
Speaker 3: Receiver in the league. So that hurts them.
Speaker 2: The other thing that hurts them, obviously the defense is susceptible,
Speaker 2: but set that aside. People don't really trust golf. But
Speaker 2: the fact of the matter on golf is this, He's
Speaker 2: a hard player to trust because the moment he gets pressured,
Speaker 2: not existential pressure, but pressured, the moment that happens, he
Speaker 2: turns into a pumpkin. We saw it in the first
Speaker 2: playoff game of the year when he got pressured and
Speaker 2: threw a two in chess pass backwards towards his own
Speaker 2: end zone. He can't deal with it. But if they
Speaker 2: can keep him clean, if they can neutralize Young and
Speaker 2: Bosa off the edge and Armstead and Hardgrave up the middle,
Speaker 2: which is a hell of a tall task, but the
Speaker 2: Lions have invested a lot in that offensive line to
Speaker 2: be able to do it. Golf can pick apart that
Speaker 2: secondary and so yeah, they are a bit disrespected, But
Speaker 2: some of that's because they don't have the history. Some
Speaker 2: of that's because they don't have the star a list,
Speaker 2: name recognition, star power, and some of that, honestly is
Speaker 2: because people just don't totally trust the quarterback. Speaking of
Speaker 2: not trusting quarterbacks, we'll go to Brock Parties, the Brock
Speaker 2: Party discussion producers. Right, Perty has made the NFC Championship
Speaker 2: Game every year. Okay, by the way, so did Jimmy
Speaker 2: Garoppolo when he was healthy. Just for the record. Uh,
Speaker 2: but you call him, I call him San Francisco's If
Speaker 2: the forty nine ers make the super Bowl with him, there's.
Speaker 3: No way they move on.
Speaker 2: But are you gonna make the Galaxy brain take that
Speaker 2: losing would be better for San Francisco in the long run.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna say losing would be better in the
Speaker 2: long run. What I would say. What I will say
Speaker 2: is this, if Perdy plays the way he did against
Speaker 2: Green Bay and they lose, it is absolutely on the
Speaker 2: board that he's not their starting quarterback Week one of
Speaker 2: next year.
Speaker 3: And all these.
Speaker 2: Quotes from Shanahan and his teammates and all of it
Speaker 2: that what the Niners.
Speaker 3: Will do.
Speaker 2: If Perdy plays poorly and they lose is try to quietly.
Speaker 3: Do recount on.
Speaker 2: Kirk cousins, Will you take less than you can get
Speaker 2: elsewhere to come play for Kyle Shanahan. So Kirk has
Speaker 2: made an unbelievable amount of money in his career. He's
Speaker 2: at two hundred and thirty one million. He's about to
Speaker 2: be a true and clear for free and clear free
Speaker 2: agent and can go anywhere. The Niners don't have the
Speaker 2: money to give him a top of the market deal,
Speaker 2: but I'm sure they believe correctly that that would be
Speaker 2: a massive upgrade if they trust his health coming off
Speaker 2: the Achilles, and if he would take a below market
Speaker 2: deal for a great chance at a super Bowl, they
Speaker 2: would investigate it. We heard from Brock Berdy himself this
Speaker 2: offseason that Kyle Shanahan told him they were going to
Speaker 2: move on. He wasn't going to be the starter if
Speaker 2: they signed Brady and at Niner fans are angry.
Speaker 3: With me.
Speaker 2: Because, how do I put it, I think it's projection.
Speaker 2: I think Niner fans deep down are more scared of
Speaker 2: Purty than anybody. But because the numbers have been so good,
Speaker 2: because he's twenty and five, because of all these things,
Speaker 2: they feel like you and the media should be obligated
Speaker 2: to love him, to say great things about him, rather
Speaker 2: than to evaluate the games as if they were on television.
Speaker 2: And it was truly amazing to me how many people
Speaker 2: this week are tripling down on Brock even though we
Speaker 2: all saw that game and he was the worst player
Speaker 2: on the field for massive stretches of it. And so
Speaker 2: if they, after being very fortunate to win at home
Speaker 2: against Jordan Love and Green Bay because of his poor play,
Speaker 2: if they then lose at home to Jared Goff and
Speaker 2: the Niners, some real offseason question for San Francisco. Who
Speaker 2: do I think is gonna win that game? You guys
Speaker 2: probably have an idea of who I think is gonna
Speaker 2: win the Chiefs Ravens game. We'll do both of those
Speaker 2: in our pick segment next, What's Right? Welcome back What's
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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back in What's right with Nick?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Demanse out today as he's suffering injury playing basketball. So
Speaker 2: nothing but our thoughts with the Monse's kind of going
Speaker 2: through a rough time at the moment. The producers asking
Speaker 2: me to rank potential Super Bowl matchups, so we will
Speaker 2: do that right now. There's four potential matchups, ranked them
Speaker 2: four to one based on what would be the most
Speaker 2: exciting games with the best storylines. Okay, that's an interesting question.
Speaker 2: The so I I think that, and I think the
Speaker 2: ratings bear this out. I think the best storylines have
Speaker 2: to involve and I know you guys are gonna roll
Speaker 2: your eyes, but have to involve the Chiefs going for
Speaker 2: a second straight title. I think that given the fact
Speaker 2: that this what did not This is not a fate
Speaker 2: Accompley season. The last time the Chiefs were going for
Speaker 2: their second straight title, they were fourteen and one in
Speaker 2: games Mahomes played. He rested in week seventeen, and they
Speaker 2: kind of rolled in route to the Super Bowl. First
Speaker 2: playoff game, they played the Browns, they had total control,
Speaker 2: and then Mahomes got choked out on the field. Their
Speaker 2: second playoff game, the AFC title game, they annihilated the
Speaker 2: Bills and then so it was really the question was
Speaker 2: who was gonna come out of the NFC, not the AFC,
Speaker 2: And then Brady and the Bucks came out of the
Speaker 2: NFC and kicked their ass. But the lead up to it,
Speaker 2: there wasn't a lot of doubting of the defending champion
Speaker 2: Chiefs that year.
Speaker 3: This year obviously totally different.
Speaker 2: You then add to it, it cements them as an undoubted,
Speaker 2: unquestionable dynasty. And I talked to all this on the
Speaker 2: show the other day yesterday. Actually, I think that this
Speaker 2: that the Chiefs winning the Super Bowl this year would
Speaker 2: put them number three for all time dynasties. I think
Speaker 2: there have been six in the true dynasties in the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl era, and then another seven or eight mini
Speaker 2: almost dynasties, but the six would be in.
Speaker 3: No order, if you will.
Speaker 2: The Steelers of the seventies in six years, they went
Speaker 2: to four Super Bowls, one all four went to five
Speaker 2: conference championship games. The Niners from eighty one to eighty
Speaker 2: nine in nine years went to four Super Bowls one
Speaker 2: them all went to five conference championship games. The Patriots
Speaker 2: from twenty eleven to twenty eighteen. I think the Patriots
Speaker 2: thing has to be split up because they went nine
Speaker 2: years without winning a Super Bowl. So I split up
Speaker 2: into two. So the Patriots from eleven to eighteen in
Speaker 2: that eight year stretch went to five Super Bowls. No
Speaker 2: hold on, yeah, went to five Super Bowls, won three,
Speaker 2: went to.
Speaker 3: Eight conference championship games.
Speaker 2: The Cowboys from ninety one to ninety five, ninety two
Speaker 2: to ninety five, pardon me, in four years went to
Speaker 2: three Super Bowls one all, went to all four conference
Speaker 2: championship games. The Patriots from one to four in four
Speaker 2: years went to three Super Bowls, one them all and
Speaker 2: missed the playoffs in the middle year. And the Chiefs
Speaker 2: from if they win this year nineteen to twenty three,
Speaker 2: in a five year stretch, went to four super Bowls,
Speaker 2: won three, went to conference championship game every single year.
Speaker 2: Obviously went to the conference championship game of the year before,
Speaker 2: but he kind of starts, you can't have a dynasty
Speaker 2: kind of era a start in a year you don't
Speaker 2: even make the Super Bowl if the Chiefs win it.
Speaker 2: I think that the if we're ranking dynasties, it would
Speaker 2: go Stealers from seventy four to seventy nine number one,
Speaker 2: Patriots from eleven to eighteen number two, and Chiefs from
Speaker 2: nineteen to twenty three number three, with the Chiefs able
Speaker 2: to trump the Patriots if they win one more well,
Speaker 2: maybe trump them all, but certainly trump the Patriots if
Speaker 2: they win another one in the next few years. And
Speaker 2: obviously if the Chiefs win this year and then they
Speaker 2: were to win next year, then they are the greatest
Speaker 2: dynasty ever because they nobody will have had more than
Speaker 2: the four rings in this time frame, and.
Speaker 3: They would have won three in a row.
Speaker 2: So I guess the least sexy matchup is Baltimore Detroit,
Speaker 2: So that would be number four. Still good storylines and that,
Speaker 2: but that would be built around Lamar. The next matchup
Speaker 2: would be Baltimore, San Francisco and that would be the
Speaker 2: League MVP against the guy who a lot of people
Speaker 2: thought was gonna be League MVP and party will Shanahan
Speaker 2: finally get over the hump? And then number two would
Speaker 2: be Kansadity Detroit Game one of the year, Game two
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty five of the year, the most tortured
Speaker 2: fan base maybe in all of sports, Detroit Lions versus
Speaker 2: all of a sudden spoiled fan base the Kansaity Chiefs.
Speaker 2: And then the best one would be cheap Niners because
Speaker 2: it'd be mister Irrelevant against the greatest quarterback we've ever seen.
Speaker 2: So that's what it would be, all right. Uh to
Speaker 2: the divisional round gambling recap. I went one in three.
Speaker 2: There's no way around it. Now, Tampa, I feel like
Speaker 2: I was on the right side of Houston and San Francisco.
Speaker 2: I obviously was not Kansas City, never a doubt throughout.
Speaker 2: So we're four and six. There's three games left, So
Speaker 2: just to finish above five hundred, I'm gonna have to
Speaker 2: go three and oh the rest of the way, and
Speaker 2: we'll start with Kansady Baltimore. Kansas City getting three and
Speaker 2: a half is outrageous. You want to say Kansaity should
Speaker 2: be a dog, so be it getting more than a
Speaker 2: field goal is outrageous. And the trend stats are in
Speaker 2: the last twenty years, super Bowl winning quarterbacks are fifty
Speaker 2: nine to twenty four and two against the spread in
Speaker 2: the playoffs. As a Mahomes has only been a dog
Speaker 2: of more than three twice in his career, once a
Speaker 2: three point loss to the Patriots his first year as
Speaker 2: a starter.
Speaker 3: And once.
Speaker 2: Five point win against Pittsburgh in his third start ever.
Speaker 2: Lamar sneaky not great as a home favorite, sixteen and
Speaker 2: twenty three against the spread. Harball obviously legendary against the
Speaker 2: spread because he's won in the playoffs fourteen and seven
Speaker 2: against the spread. Because they've had so many road games
Speaker 2: in his career, so they're dogs in most of those.
Speaker 3: But this one's simple.
Speaker 2: I think the defenses are a push, and I trust
Speaker 2: Mahomes more than I trust Lamar. It's not a slide
Speaker 2: on Lamar. I trust Mahomes more than I trust anybody.
Speaker 2: And I think that the Chiefs offense is rolling right
Speaker 2: now that before the kneel downs they were at almost
Speaker 2: nine yards per play that game against Buffalo, they had
Speaker 2: more yards per play than any playoff game of the
Speaker 2: Mahomes era, and they barely had the ball and still
Speaker 2: were a yard away from scoring thirty four points. So
Speaker 2: I like the Chiefs in this spot. I like the
Speaker 2: Chiefs to win out right in a very good game.
Speaker 3: I like this is.
Speaker 2: A back and forth, tightly contested, but I think the
Speaker 2: Chiefs offense can really make some noise in this. This
Speaker 2: feels like a I mean, I know it sounds like
Speaker 2: cop out because it's the same scores last week.
Speaker 3: But a twenty seven to twenty four.
Speaker 2: Kansas City victory, all right, Detroit is getting seven at
Speaker 2: San Francisco. That's way too many points. I'll take Detroit
Speaker 2: plus the seven. And there is the question about Deebo. Obviously,
Speaker 2: the Niners have been a totally different team. They're twelve
Speaker 2: and one with him, one and four without him, and
Speaker 2: the one win was last week where they didn't look
Speaker 2: good without him. Even if he plays, you can imagine
Speaker 2: he's gonna be one hundred percent, and if it's a
Speaker 2: shoulder injury, the way he his style of play, you
Speaker 2: feel like he could, you know, have to leave the
Speaker 2: game despite it. I think Detroit can win this game outright.
Speaker 2: I think that Detroit can block up San Francisco and
Speaker 2: in which case golf is going to be able to
Speaker 2: move the ball on them. So I will take Detroit
Speaker 2: not only plus seven, but Detroit to win outright, and
Speaker 2: we get in the final game of the year, the
Speaker 2: first game of the year, Chiefs Lions to start the season,
Speaker 2: Chiefs Lions to end the season. And shout out to
Speaker 2: Danny Parkins. I've mentioned this pod before, but you guys
Speaker 2: should check it out. It's a great football pod called
Speaker 2: First In Pod with Danny Parkins and Andrew Philipponi. That
Speaker 2: was Danny's pick before the season, and he's a game
Speaker 2: away from nailing it all right, so we can show
Speaker 2: you the picks.
Speaker 3: I'm taking both dogs and both dogs to win outright.
Speaker 2: So the offer this week is the Brducer's trying to
Speaker 2: get me to parlay two goats. Mahomes to win the
Speaker 2: Super Bowl MVP at plus three eighty and Djokovic to
Speaker 2: win the Australian Open at minus one thirty. That combines
Speaker 2: for a plus seven point fifty. I mean that seems
Speaker 2: pretty good, you know what, Matt Ford, I'll take that offer.
Speaker 2: I haven't watched any of the Australian Open. But so
Speaker 2: I'm doing it blind, but I'm trusting Matt. I'll take
Speaker 2: that offer and then a bonus offer, I have a
Speaker 2: chance at redemption for my super Bowl. Exact to bet
Speaker 2: Kansas City to beat Detroit in the Super Bowl right
Speaker 2: now is fifteen to one. So here's the problem. So
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna take that. And the reason I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna take that is because you're gonna be able to
Speaker 2: get better odds if you just bet that separately. So
Speaker 2: if you just if you parlay Kansas City and Detroit
Speaker 2: to win this weekend, you get that at ten to one.
Speaker 2: So if you just were to do that, Kansas City
Speaker 2: is not gonna be more than a minus two hundred
Speaker 2: favorite in the Super Bowl if they were to play,
Speaker 2: so and I don't even know if they'll be a
Speaker 2: fake like what they would be in that game. I'm
Speaker 2: sure those odds are out. I haven't looked. So if
Speaker 2: you believe that's gonna happen, just bet, just bet it
Speaker 2: this weekend and then take every single thing you won
Speaker 2: and put it on the winner of the super Bowl.
Speaker 2: That's just you're gonna get better, at least a touch
Speaker 2: better than fifteen to one. All right, quick break, come
Speaker 2: back and answer some of your listener questions.
Speaker 3: Next What's Right?
Speaker 2: Welcome back in What's Driving the Great Episode two eleven,
Speaker 2: we'll get to your listener questions now. By the way,
Speaker 2: shout out to Lloyd c one of our favorite listeners,
Speaker 2: who once again one Jeopardy so he is now in
Speaker 2: the semi finals for the Tournament of Champions. Also shout
Speaker 2: out to Katie Nolan and Crewe for crushing on Celebrity Jeopardy.
Speaker 2: One of my lifelong dreams is to get on Real Jeopardy,
Speaker 2: but I'm not gonna lie. I will take the cop
Speaker 2: out of getting on Celebrity Jeopardy if I can next year.
Speaker 2: I would desperately, desperately like to do that. Mitchell b asked,
Speaker 2: can you offer your point of view? And why Mahomes
Speaker 2: is so successful against the blitz and golf is terrible
Speaker 2: is their ability to read the blitz for the player
Speaker 2: something else. So I don't actually know if goff is
Speaker 2: terrible against the blitz. Golf is terrible when pressured. So
Speaker 2: the phraseology of this matters. The best quarterbacks in football
Speaker 2: are great historically against blitzes because when we say blitz.
Speaker 2: What they mean is sending extra rushers at the quarterback,
Speaker 2: which then makes it so your receivers are in one
Speaker 2: on ones. The best quarterbacks can read that, diagnose it
Speaker 2: pre snap, point out who needs to be blocked, and
Speaker 2: then make quick decisions. And I don't have Golf's numbers
Speaker 2: against the blitz. He might be good at that. I'm
Speaker 2: not certain. What Golf is terrible at is when he
Speaker 2: is pressured, and Mahomes this year wasn't great when pressured,
Speaker 2: meaning and so the distinguishing factor is if you can
Speaker 2: create pressure without blitzing. That's what is basically every quarterbacks
Speaker 2: was the thing kryptonite. That's how the Giants beat Tom
Speaker 2: Brady and two Super Bowls. They had no business doing it.
Speaker 2: They had a four man pass rush that could get home,
Speaker 2: so you could double cover guys. You could play coverage
Speaker 2: and still create pressure on the quarterback. So that's the ideal.
Speaker 2: Typically you have to send at least a little extra
Speaker 2: pressure or blitzer to get to the quarterback. Where Mahomes
Speaker 2: this year he wasn't great, but historically is is even
Speaker 2: when he's pressured. It's because of his escapability athleticism. Compared
Speaker 2: to GoF and arm talent to be so he's athletic
Speaker 2: enough and escapable enough, which golf is not to get
Speaker 2: away from maybe the first wave of pass rushers, and
Speaker 2: then while on the move or without being able to
Speaker 2: set his feet or without necessarily having his body positioned
Speaker 2: the right way, he is able to make throws that
Speaker 2: other guys can't. So that's why he is It's why
Speaker 2: Josh Allen historically can be very good in those spots.
Speaker 2: He just sometimes makes some bad decisions. Goff just doesn't
Speaker 2: have the athletic ability for it, and I don't think
Speaker 2: he has the eye discipline to keep his eyes upfield
Speaker 2: when the rushers are coming towards him. Uh Shade Ocks asked,
Speaker 2: if you're running the Cowboys, would you rather pay Dack
Speaker 2: a massive contract like five years to eighty or give
Speaker 2: Bakers some the ballpark of three years one oh five. Listen,
Speaker 2: I I don't think either of those would be great
Speaker 2: options for the Cowboys. What they're gonna do is pay
Speaker 2: Dak Prescott the like. When people see Dak's deal, they're
Speaker 2: not going to believe it that When Dak gets a
Speaker 2: three year extension for one hundred and seventy five million dollars.
Speaker 2: People are gonna think it's a misprint, but it's what's coming.
Speaker 2: If Dak gets a four year deal for two hundred
Speaker 2: and forty million dollars with the majority of it guaranteed,
Speaker 2: people won't believe it.
Speaker 3: But it's what's coming.
Speaker 2: I spent too much time talking cap stuff early in
Speaker 2: the show to go through it, but that's what's coming.
Speaker 2: Scott Murphy as how much blame does Giannis deserve for
Speaker 2: the dysfunction in Milwaukee given his growing input and pressure
Speaker 2: he's put on the front office. I was working with
Speaker 2: my buddy Ty Butler, who hosts radio for ESPN New York,
Speaker 2: about this actually this morning. If the Bucks don't make
Speaker 2: the finals this year at a minimums going to be
Speaker 2: coming after Giannis a bit, the coaching changes, the Drew
Speaker 2: Dame trade. That now, it's too early to blame anyone
Speaker 2: because we don't know if it's gone wrong, but it's
Speaker 2: certainly the early returns.
Speaker 3: Haven't been good.
Speaker 2: Noah Rodriguez asked, what were your thoughts on the Chet
Speaker 2: Wimby matchup last night?
Speaker 3: Who's your current rookie of the year. Chet's clearly the
Speaker 3: rookie of the year.
Speaker 2: I loved the competitiveness between Chet and Wimby last night
Speaker 2: even though it was a blowout, and if both can
Speaker 2: stay healthy, that should be a great rival re moving forward.
Speaker 2: Jass had Sirianni gotten fired with Eagles job in a
Speaker 2: better spot for Harball, unquestionably he'd get the most out
Speaker 2: of Jalen and it's the far easier conference in a
Speaker 2: way way easier division. Elijah King said, if you could
Speaker 2: compare to Monday's basketball style of play to an NBA player,
Speaker 2: who would it be?
Speaker 3: Demanse at his peak was stylistically all right?
Speaker 2: So who is just an knockdown shooter, say, you know
Speaker 2: what with great athleticism Demonse at his peak? Stylistically was
Speaker 2: Michael Porter Junior just an amazing jump shot, you know,
Speaker 2: tall for his position, excellent athlete and could be a
Speaker 2: lockdown defender when he opted to and has no interest
Speaker 2: in dribbling the basketball. So Michael Porter Juniors, whose Demanse
Speaker 2: was at his peak, again, send good vibes to Demanse's
Speaker 2: he's dealing with a hoops injury. And I'll see you
Speaker 2: guys on TV at.
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