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Speaker 3: More and more better, more better here, better more.

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Speaker 1: Hi. Hello, welcome to More Better podcast, where we stop

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Speaker 1: pretending to have it all together.

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Speaker 2: And embrace the beauty of becoming a little more better

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Speaker 1: That's definite, Beatrice.

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Speaker 2: That's here we are again. We're doing it again. Here

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Speaker 1: I'm doing great? How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Like I don't, you know, like you're putting it back

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Speaker 2: God.

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Speaker 1: But then there's like the choice. I'm like, I could

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Speaker 1: It's already done. It's already done. Like if it's too short,

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Speaker 2: And I think as as women, I mean, I think

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Speaker 2: I would say the best offense is a good defense, right, So,

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Speaker 2: I've learned, like, just because somebody is a master stylist,

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Speaker 2: I disagree with, like just because they can cut hair,

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Speaker 3: More better better.

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Speaker 2: Something I've started doing is like, if I see somebody's

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Speaker 1: Right, Yes, That's how I found my current girl is

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Speaker 1: cut wavy the hairstylist. So I was like, okay, cool,

437
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: Like if she has wavy hair, then you know she

438
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,320
Speaker 1: knows a little bit about it. Yeah yeah, yeah, but yeah,

439
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:10,920
Speaker 1: a recommendation is key.

440
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 2: I also think, you know, most of the time hair

441
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 2: grows back, so like yeah, I think the disaster feeling

442
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 2: is sometimes it truly is a disaster. I mean, I've

443
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 2: seen some tiki talkies that are I'm like, oh girl,

444
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,400
Speaker 2: but you know a lot of times that's because they've

445
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 2: done it to themselves.

446
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:31,120
Speaker 1: Yeah. Have you ever cut your own hair?

447
00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:31,879
Speaker 3: No?

448
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 2: Never, never, No, I would never. I've like trimmed the ends,

449
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,439
Speaker 2: like if I have really long curls, Like there's a

450
00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 2: certain way to like trim your curls so that they

451
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 2: end in the s as opposed to the sea. Oh

452
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 2: that makes sense, you know, like the curls like that.

453
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,720
Speaker 2: So yeah, you don't want to end the cut in

454
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:50,520
Speaker 2: a sea. You always want to end at the end

455
00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: of the s.

456
00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:52,400
Speaker 3: Oh.

457
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 2: I read that in a book.

458
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:54,880
Speaker 1: I didn't make it up.

459
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 2: But like, so this last haircut, I got this like

460
00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 2: little blunt bob I really loved.

461
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: Just so good. I love it on you so much.

462
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 2: Think guilt. But the guy that does my hair, it

463
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 2: was this was maybe like a couple months ago. It

464
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 2: was the bob was starting to grow out, and it

465
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 2: was like, Okay, it's time for a trim. And I

466
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 2: had shown him a bunch of pictures of like bobs

467
00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: that I liked and some of them were very nineties

468
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: and like a little more like slopeyka shorter in the

469
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 2: back and like longer the front kind of thing.

470
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: Uh huh.

471
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 2: And so that time when he trimmed my hair, he

472
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 2: like shaped it in that way because he from what

473
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 2: he understood, we were going shorter, and so we were

474
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 2: going to try that shape. And I didn't like it.

475
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,679
Speaker 2: I didn't like it as much as I liked the

476
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 2: blunt bob. I was like, oh, I missed the blond bob. Yeah,

477
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 2: And so it was fine, my hair grows really fast.

478
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,399
Speaker 2: I'm glad that I tried it. It just wasn't for me.

479
00:25:57,400 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 2: And so this last time he trimmed my hair again,

480
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,239
Speaker 2: he was like, so he's really gentle. He's like, so,

481
00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 2: I'm glad we tried that. And I was like, let's

482
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 2: just see the blunt bob again, my hand and the

483
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 2: blum bob. And he was like, okay, great, I love

484
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: the blunt bob too.

485
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

486
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,680
Speaker 2: But I think so much of you know, that's why

487
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,360
Speaker 2: people stick with their hairdressers for good or bad, sometimes

488
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 2: beyond when they should, because you build this like trust

489
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:27,080
Speaker 2: with people. Yeah, sometimes it's great, Like with Castillo, it's

490
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 2: really really great and I trust him implicitly, and you

491
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,440
Speaker 2: know that doesn't mean it's going to be perfect every

492
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 2: single time. It still was a great haircut. I'm glad

493
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 2: we tried it, but I prefer this other look. I

494
00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: think what's hard is like when you're looking for a

495
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 2: new person, when you're sitting in a seat that you

496
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 2: haven't yeah, been there, you know, very many times before.

497
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,840
Speaker 2: It's still a new relationship. It's like dating you have

498
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: like I would see on a blind date, I just wouldn't, Like,

499
00:26:57,320 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: I need to know some things about you first. I

500
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 2: need to see your work. Like that's what the internet's

501
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 2: so great about. It's like, I see what else have

502
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 2: you done? Like do you put people's hair that's like mine?

503
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: Like yep?

504
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: Do you have any other people who look like me

505
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 2: that you're working on their hair? Like? Or is it

506
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 2: like are you giving everybody the same kind of like

507
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 2: curl at the end of That's always a red flag

508
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 2: to me, is like if the haircut looks beautiful, but

509
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:26,119
Speaker 2: every single person on like say their Instagram has like

510
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,840
Speaker 2: the same shape of curl. Oh, it's like they've done

511
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 2: the hair. They've like quote unquote done the hair, and yeah,

512
00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: because then it's like, well, what does my hair look

513
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 2: like if I don't do it like that? Like, what

514
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 2: is my hair like? You just shower and blow it dry.

515
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,000
Speaker 2: What happens? Yeah, you know, I think that's a red flag.

516
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: I also appreciate like honesty for my hairstylist. Like I've

517
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: been seeing my current one for probably like a year,

518
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: and I wanted to do well. First, I wanted to

519
00:27:59,920 --> 00:28:04,960
Speaker 1: do a bang and she was like, but I appreciated that.

520
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: I mean, I've done bangs before, but she sort of

521
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 1: we ended up doing like a longer sort of more

522
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: like a curtain bang. I also went in hard and

523
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: like maybe wanted to do like a wolf cut, like

524
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 1: the like shorter kind of big layers and like the

525
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: whole thing. And she was like, here's the thing. This

526
00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,199
Speaker 1: is gonna look great on you. She was like, but

527
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: what I have also learned about you is that you

528
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 1: don't really like to do your hair. And I was like,

529
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: uh huh. She was like, you have to do your

530
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: hair for that cut to look good. You have to

531
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: be a person that is going to do your hair

532
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: every day or every other day, because that's what that

533
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,800
Speaker 1: cut needs. And I was like, oh, and I really

534
00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: appreciated that. Like I was bummed, but I was like, no,

535
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: but she's right, Like I'm not gonna do I don't

536
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: do my hair like I don't do it. I scrunch it,

537
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,240
Speaker 1: I air dry it, and I get on my fucking way.

538
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes now I curl the bottoms because I don't want

539
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: to look like ratty mcratty over here while I wait

540
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: for this damaged hair to grow out. But but like, yeah,

541
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: so I do need haircuts that like fit with what

542
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 1: I do with my hairstyle. Yeah, my lifestyle. I'm not

543
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 1: gonna blow dry my hair. I'm not gonna like, you know,

544
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: I show up with stopping wet hair all the time

545
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: to places like I just you know, I'm putting product

546
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 1: in and that's about it.

547
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 2: Same.

548
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: So I really appreciated that advice. And so I do

549
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 1: like a fair styuse that isn't afraid to like speak up.

550
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: But it is like dating, and it's like the first

551
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: couple of times you go, you have to bring like

552
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: so many pictures of what you want, and you have

553
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 1: to be really specific about what it is in the

554
00:29:56,840 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: picture that you like or that you would like to try.

555
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,720
Speaker 1: And sometimes it takes like a few times, so going

556
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: to a person to really decide, Yeah, if that's like

557
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 1: your go to person, you know, yeah, yeah, because I've

558
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: I've definitely had that happen before, where Like.

559
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: There have been hair dreshers that I've worked with where

560
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 2: are like sometimes it's great and it worked really well,

561
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 2: and then I'll get a haircut in there like one

562
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 2: out of every six and I'm like, oh no, and

563
00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 2: that sixth one is the one. You know, it's like

564
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,840
Speaker 2: that I can't. I don't. I can't go back, you know, yeah,

565
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 2: because it's just too much of a gamble and it's

566
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 2: so expensive. It's like that's the other thing that's like

567
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 2: a lot of it's high pressure because it is expensive,

568
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 2: and m because it's expensive. I feel like doing your

569
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 2: research is important, bringing ammunition, like bringing all of your stuff,

570
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 2: getting there a little early, like don't ever make them

571
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: wait on you, and then saying things like in your

572
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 2: consultation like I don't. I'm not the kind of person

573
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 2: who does my hair and you know or yeah you

574
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: are like I or maybe you are.

575
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:10,360
Speaker 1: I have friends that like will blow dry their hair

576
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,280
Speaker 1: every time they wash it, or like will blow dry

577
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 1: and curl their hair every time they wash it and like,

578
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just not that.

579
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not either. I mean, i'd much rather That's

580
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 2: why I did. I like did a process to my

581
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: hair recently. I don't know what it's called Castillo could

582
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 2: tell you, but it's not a Brazilian blowout, but like

583
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: essentially it smooths the cuticle of the hair like really

584
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 2: pretty straight, so that I don't have to think about

585
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: it because right now that's.

586
00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 1: Smart because your hair is so short and it can

587
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: sure dry crazy like if I go Yeah.

588
00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: So now I just like a couple pumps of like

589
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: cream this like cream stuff that I've been using, and

590
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: like it's fine, Like obviously I'm not gonna you know,

591
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 2: if I'm I'm going on a date or something like that,

592
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 2: I want to like make it look nice.

593
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: But oh yeah, same, Yeah, I'm only doing my hair

594
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: when I go out.

595
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 2: I mean I could have maybe done my hair for

596
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 2: the lunch that I went to yesterday, did I know?

597
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: But you know, well yeah, no, I mean out at night. Sorry,

598
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: let me be more specific. I'm only doing my hair

599
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: when I go out at night. Got it. I'm doing

600
00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 1: my hair like I have a meeting or like it

601
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 1: depends on the meeting, if I'm being honest.

602
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:29,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the other day when I was late

603
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 2: for that audition girl, I was like, ugh, a ton

604
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 2: to dye my ears? That was it ridiculous. Still, I'm

605
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: not over it. Better better, I want to hear what

606
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 2: you think about this or I guess what you do.

607
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 2: I have a really hard time with a lot of

608
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 2: small talk in the chair. What do you do there? Like,

609
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 2: how do you handle that?

610
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 3: Yeah?

611
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: You do it? Yeah, well it's your deal.

612
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,959
Speaker 1: Yeah. It really depends on my mood. I feel this

613
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: way when I well, when I see my colorists, it's

614
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: a little different because she's with me in the beginning

615
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: looking at the color and like applying it, and then

616
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: I like don't see her really for the rest of

617
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: the appointment, right, So we do like catch up while

618
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: she's coloring my hair, and I enjoy that and because

619
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:27,920
Speaker 1: I've seen her now for a few years and she's

620
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: amazing and I'll never leave her because she's brilliant. But

621
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: the haircut is different because they're with you the entire time,

622
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: and that can sometimes be like forty five minutes. So

623
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 1: if I'm not in a chatty mood, I will Yeah,

624
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: small talk in the beginning, you know how you been right,

625
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 1: Like if I was going now, I'd be like, well, no,

626
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: my my haircut my. It's always easier if they have kids,

627
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,719
Speaker 1: because you can always refer to like kid talk, but

628
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: if they don't have kids, mine doesn't have a kid,

629
00:33:55,720 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: Like I just like come. I mean, I also hate

630
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 1: small talk, but I will do it in the beginning

631
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 1: a little bit, and then I try to like tape

632
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: her off, like you know, if they're in maybe a

633
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: more chatty mood than you, you start making your answers

634
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: like a little shorter oh okay, you know, and then

635
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: kind of try to like let it naturally so you're

636
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: roote tape her off and then hopefully it just gets quiet. Fine,

637
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: but I don't care. Here's the other thing, too, is

638
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: like you have to like not care. But I also

639
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 1: understand how like the silence can be uncomfortable too. Yeah,

640
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: I mean it can be an uncomfortable silence. It is

641
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: like a tricky thing to navigate. Movies and shows is

642
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: always a safe go to. I just hate I personally

643
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: hate talking about boring shit like I but I'm.

644
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:57,719
Speaker 2: Of two minds because like boring shit, Yeah, what do

645
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 2: you do? I think boring shit can get to the good.

646
00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:02,319
Speaker 2: I think, you know pretty quickly if somebody's like your

647
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 2: kind of people, you know, yeah, like you start chatting

648
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 2: and like you make a couple of jokes.

649
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: And small talk can be the gateway to like more interesting.

650
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: Is the gateway. It is the gateway. Ultimately, it is

651
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: the gateway. I never would have For example, I never

652
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Speaker 2: would have heard about a katar, which is those like

653
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:23,399
Speaker 2: smutty fairy books, if it hadn't been for this one

654
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 2: hairstylist and I talking about our love of reading and

655
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 2: the library and stuff, and that was really cool. On

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Speaker 2: the other hand, sometimes I'm just I know myself and

657
00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 2: I don't have the wherewithal to do it, And so

658
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 2: I'll start by being polite and we'll talk about the haircut. Obviously,

659
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Speaker 2: I give them a lot of like respect and direction

660
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Speaker 2: and politeness. And then I'll say, I have to work

661
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: on this thing, and I've I'm on a little bit

662
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Speaker 2: of a deadline and I'm working on something. I hope

663
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Speaker 2: you don't mind that. I am gonna be looking at

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Speaker 2: my laptop or my eye iPad or whatever. Like it's

665
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Speaker 2: usually the iPad. I bring the iPad with me. But

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Speaker 2: then that means I do have to do work, like

667
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: I have to read a script or I have to

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Speaker 2: like take care.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I've done that too, but yeah you do have

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Speaker 1: to because like they can see your screen, so yeah

671
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Speaker 1: you can't. You can't be scroll on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: But I've also done, like I have to shop for

673
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 2: Christmas presents right now because this is my time that.

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Speaker 1: I can get that.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's so like that's been really helpful. And I've

676
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Speaker 2: gotten people checked off the lists that way, so mm hmmm.

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00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I wanted to talk about this the ethics

678
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Speaker 2: of hair. This is like form our nerd Time stuff.

679
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, nerd Time.

680
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 2: The ethics of hair, navigating cultural sensitivities and cutting and styling.

681
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,919
Speaker 2: And this is a resource website used by stylists, which

682
00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 2: I think is very cool because from this website, hair

683
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: carries meaning beyond style. For some it's a statement of

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Speaker 2: self expression. For others, it's a reflection of cultural heritage

685
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 2: or religious beliefs. And then they list a few key

686
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 2: areas where cultural awareness for different kinds of groups is

687
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 2: really really critical. Protective styles in the Black community, braids, locks, twists,

688
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,560
Speaker 2: and other protective styles have deep historical and cultural significance.

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Speaker 2: Dismissing them as trendy or treating them as just another

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Speaker 2: fashion statement disregards their meaning. Additionally, understanding the proper techniques

691
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,800
Speaker 2: for working on textured hair is a must religious considerations.

692
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 2: Some religions have specific rules regarding hair. Asking permission before

693
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 2: touching or revealing hair that's typically covered is a sign

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Speaker 2: of respect indigenous traditions. For many indigenous cultures, hair represents strength, spirituality,

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00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,840
Speaker 2: and connection to ancestry. Cutting hair might be a significant event,

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Speaker 2: and some may have specific rituals around it, and understanding

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Speaker 2: those traditions can prevent unintentional disrespect and then gender identity

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Speaker 2: and hair. For many LGBTQ people, hair can be an

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00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 2: essential part of life. Affirming their identity, using gender neutral

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00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 2: language and respecting pronouns in the salon can make a

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Speaker 2: significant difference in making all clients feel welcome. And I

702
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 2: think that this is like you could brush this off

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00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: and say like, oh, this is like quote unquote woke

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Speaker 2: behavior or something.

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Speaker 1: But no, it's about being respectful.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think it's about human It's just about being respectful, right.

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Speaker 1: It's about Yeah, it's about ethics, it's about manners, it's

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Speaker 1: about politeness. It's about, yeah, just respecting a person and

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Speaker 1: respecting that. Like for me, I'm not I don't have

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Speaker 1: like a deep connection to my my hair doesn't feel

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00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: like tied to my identity like I've I've changed my

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00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 1: hair lots of times. I'll change my hair for work

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Speaker 1: on a whim. But I also can empathize and understand

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Speaker 1: that for someone it's a much deeper thing. It's it's

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Speaker 1: closer closely tied to their identity or their beliefs, or

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Speaker 1: their religion or their culture. And you know, it's like,

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Speaker 1: just don't be a fucking dick, like do you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean. It's like so many of these things

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Speaker 1: that are like like this whole like anti woke pushback,

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Speaker 1: Like so many times when people are like, oh, you're

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00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: just being so woke, it's like manners are fucking woke now,

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Speaker 1: Like when the fuck did that happen?

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Speaker 2: Like manners are hard, Like that's the thing you have

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Speaker 2: to put an effort to have manners. Yes, so is

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00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 2: learning about this because like that's where it gets like

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00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 2: to me, one of I've had so many jobs where

727
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 2: and this is on a job, so it's slightly different.

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Speaker 2: But there are hairstylists that work on set every day.

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00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 2: Anybody that you see on television has had probably one

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00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 2: or two people work on them, put on makeup for them,

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Speaker 2: and do their hair, and then they get touched up

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Speaker 2: periodically throughout the day. And there are lots of people

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Speaker 2: in those unions, and some of the people in those

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Speaker 2: unions don't care to learn more once they've got their

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00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 2: union card. They're sort of just like, yeah, I'm in

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Speaker 2: front a minute. I've had I've had people straighten my

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Speaker 2: hair and then go back and curl the entire head

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00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 2: of hair with a curling eye. I have had people

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Speaker 2: not listen to me about how to do my hair,

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Speaker 2: and then I look at episodes of television. I'm like,

741
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: my hair looks crazy and whack. I've had people cut

742
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,279
Speaker 2: my hair and not understand it because they're like, well,

743
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 2: we just need to it needs to match the the

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00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:31,719
Speaker 2: what we did like last month, so like it just

745
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 2: needs to match, and then they just chop like because

746
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:38,919
Speaker 2: they think they can without asking me, right. And unfortunately

747
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 2: actors are at the whim sometimes of like we have

748
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,880
Speaker 2: to look a certain way for this job, right. But

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Speaker 2: I think trying to have a voice in it is

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00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 2: really important, and standing up for yourself is really important.

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00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,359
Speaker 2: And I've learned a lot being on sets in that,

752
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: Like I do have a voice about how I am

753
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 2: perceived in how I look, and I can carry that

754
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 2: voice into any space where someone is cutting my hair

755
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,720
Speaker 2: coloring my hair, Like if something looks off or wrong,

756
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 2: now I'm much more likely to be like, actually, can

757
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,400
Speaker 2: we stop for a second and just like I just

758
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 2: want to talk about this, and then then we open

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00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 2: it up to a discussion, like you said, like, what

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00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,359
Speaker 2: do you think about this? Because to my eye it's

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00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 2: looking like this. Can you tell me more about why

762
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 2: you're doing it like this or that or the other. Right, Yeah,

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00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 2: I've certainly had experiences where my hair has been and

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying this is what happened to you on

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Speaker 2: your last show, but like my hair's been wrecked by

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00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 2: some some use of a tool or use of something.

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Speaker 1: And it's too hot. I think, yeah, I think it

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00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 1: was a little bit of that. And I think it

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Speaker 1: was just also like the nature of the role and

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00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: the fact that we couldn't the way we were doing it,

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00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: couldn't it had to be done for us every day.

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00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: It couldn't be like I didn't wash it, and like,

773
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,720
Speaker 1: we just do it, you know what I mean, because

774
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: of like hair pieces and like different accessories and things.

775
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: So eventually we started using like like a halfwig and

776
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: that saved my hair. But they were like, but thank god.

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00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: The response was also like, oh my god, like I

778
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: see what's happening, Like your hair is falling out and

779
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 1: it's getting damaged, and so like we're going to correct this,

780
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: which thankfully was the right thing to do. But I

781
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 1: also just felt very seen and validated and like taken

782
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: care of. And they like we changed and course corrected

783
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: and did different things, which was really nice and also

784
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: not always the case, which is unfortunate. But yeah, it's like,

785
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 1: just you know, don't be a dick. Just be fucking

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Speaker 1: respectful of people. God, why is it so hard?

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Speaker 2: I think it's particular. I mean I don't know this

788
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 2: from my own experience, but I think it's particularly hard

789
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 2: for like some artists to learn about hair that's different

790
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 2: from their own, and like I don't yeah, it's like

791
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: a block. I don't know if they just haven't had

792
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 2: enough practice. I don't know, if they want to pretend

793
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 2: that all hair is the same, but it's not.

794
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: It's really not.

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00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 2: It really is. It's a detriment. I think too. You know,

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00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: I understand, like if you're a certain kind of artist

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00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:15,440
Speaker 2: and you just want to work on a certain kind

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00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: of hair, like I guess like more power too, Like

799
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 2: that's cool, Like, but know that that's your limitation and

800
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,840
Speaker 2: know that's your that's the box that you work in,

801
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: and that's what you want to do, and that's how

802
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 2: you want to work and like and understand that, like

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00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 2: sometimes you might not get hired for a job because

804
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,879
Speaker 2: you don't have the flexibility to be able to work

805
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 2: with all kinds of hair.

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00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: Again, just don't be a dick.

807
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 2: It's hard for some people. Melissa's hard and hard for

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00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 2: some people. You've noticed I have, unfortunately.

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00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 3: More better.

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00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:55,680
Speaker 1: How do you feel?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna ask you, what's your takeaway?

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00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: What are my takeaways? I'm going to try to be

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00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: more better at like speaking up when I don't like

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00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:05,319
Speaker 1: something during a haircut. This was like a fun one

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Speaker 1: to talk about. I Yeah, I'm trying to like keep

816
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: like grow my hair out and keep it the same.

817
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: I'm always fighting the urge to like chop chop, I'm

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00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: not gonna do it. I'm not gonna your takeaways. I

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00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: love hair. I love I love having long hair, I

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Speaker 1: love having extensions. I love having short hair. I love

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00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 1: having curling hair, having straight hair.

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Speaker 2: And you know, someday I might all fall out of

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Speaker 2: my head and that's okay too. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: We'll look my bras. I don't think. So you got

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00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 1: a gray head of hair. I think you're gonna be okay.

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Speaker 2: I have a lot of it. I do need to

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Speaker 2: get my root, my roots done.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel more better about hair?

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Speaker 2: Take a look at those roots, honey, that's how fast.

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Speaker 1: I gotta get my roots done too. Look at that.

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Speaker 1: Look at that white spot. It's a whole white fucking.

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00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 2: I love it. I love it for them, Love it

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00:44:58,600 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 2: for them, not for me. Love it for them.

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Speaker 1: Though I love it. I am looking forward to the

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Speaker 1: day where I finally do it. I'm hoping that these

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00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: big streaks that I have right now that I still

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Speaker 1: have in like you want.

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Speaker 2: Like a row twenty years moment.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I have right now. That's why this

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00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 1: is so. This is a streak. This is a streak.

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00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 2: If I would just let that grow out.

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00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: Hmm, I don't know.

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00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, okay, anyway, guys, email us your ideas

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Speaker 2: for episodes, or you know, like maybe vote on whether

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00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 2: or not Melissa should go great. Okay, see you next week,

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Speaker 2: Bye bye, More Better. Do you have something you'd like

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Speaker 2: to be more better at that you want us to

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Speaker 2: talk about in a future episode?

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Speaker 1: Can you relate to our struggles or have you tried

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Speaker 2: Melissa Fumero. More Better is produced by ISIS Madrid and

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Speaker 2: For more podcasts from iHeart, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,

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Speaker 2: or wherever.

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Speaker 1: You listen to your favorite shows.

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Speaker 2: See you next week, suck us Bye,