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Speaker 1: All right, So we are back on the way concept

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Speaker 1: presented it by The Ring Magazine, and today we have

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Speaker 1: a bomb that has been dropped on the boxing world.

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Speaker 1: Breaking news, folks, apparently according to The Ring Magazine, and

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Speaker 1: we're going to get into the announcement. Lloyd Mayweather and

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Speaker 1: Manny pac Yaw are in talks for a rematch in

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Speaker 1: Big twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 2: This is real.

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Speaker 1: I am not lying to you. I would never do

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Speaker 1: such a thing, but we have to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: What is going on? Why is this happening and where

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Speaker 1: is it happening. And it's not just that this is

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Speaker 1: a potential rematch in talks. It's apparently supposed to be

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Speaker 1: on Netflix. So what is happening? Why is it happening?

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Speaker 2: Let's get to all of it, the breakdown. Let's go

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Speaker 2: all right.

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Speaker 1: So, like I said on the Inside the Ring Show

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Speaker 1: on The Ring Magazine's YouTube channel, Malik Scott, Max Kellerman,

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Speaker 1: Shady McCoy still still doing his things somehow there he's

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Speaker 1: a fair play to He's bringing the heat from the

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Speaker 1: football world into the boxing and cop himself, Mike Coppinger

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Speaker 1: sat down to talk about this exclusive announcement from the

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Speaker 1: Ring Magazine let's take a listen.

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Speaker 3: However, today Mike Coppinger has a cop.

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Speaker 4: Bomb or.

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Speaker 1: Like, what is this a double this is this is

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Speaker 1: big news.

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Speaker 2: Actually it's but ahad tell the people, all right.

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Speaker 5: So I am hearing from a reliable sources that Floyd

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Speaker 5: Mayweather and Manny Paciao, yes, more than ten years later,

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Speaker 5: a rematch is being seriously discussed to take place next

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Speaker 5: year on Netflix. And Netflix, of course, is very much

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Speaker 5: into eventizing these whatever they put on, whether it's boxing

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Speaker 5: or tennis, and so far they've done Jake Paul, Mike Tyson,

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Speaker 5: they just did Mayweather. Sorry, they just the Cano against Crawford,

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Speaker 5: and obviously a rematch Tonywether and Paciao, even at this

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Speaker 5: stage would classify as a big event for Netflix. And

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Speaker 5: I think it is a real possibility this is going

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Speaker 5: to happen. Mayweather's now four forty six, I believe, and

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Speaker 5: pak Yo's around the same age. But look, this was

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Speaker 5: the biggest fight in boxing history when it happens, and

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Speaker 5: I think all these years later or rematch, if it happens,

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Speaker 5: especially after the way Pacio looked in July against Barrios,

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Speaker 5: there would be serious interests.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean all right, so there's the announcement apparently

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Speaker 1: in talks, in serious talks sometime in twenty twenty six

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Speaker 1: on Netflix, Mayweather pak you ow two and what cops

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Speaker 1: said there.

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Speaker 2: I agree with a lot of it.

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Speaker 1: Number One, I agree that this, regardless of the skill level,

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Speaker 1: regardless of the time out of the ring, regardless of

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Speaker 1: all of that, this would still be a very sought

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Speaker 1: after fight. And I don't know if that's a good

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Speaker 1: thing for boxing that we continue to have to find.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to call it a gimmick fight, but we.

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Speaker 1: Continue to have to rely on the past, the greatness

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Speaker 1: of the past versus the greatness of the present to

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Speaker 1: provide big monumental event. And yes, I'm referring to Mike

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Speaker 1: Tyson Jake Paul, but to be fair, we did just

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Speaker 2: And Crawford on Netflix, so there's that.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know, I really don't know how to

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Speaker 1: feel about this, Like, am I upset about it?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 1: Is it the thing I'm most excited for in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty six for the sport of boxing?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 1: Well, I watch it, Yeah, I will, because this is

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Speaker 1: a bit of a different thing than Mike Tyson, Jake Paul.

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Speaker 2: Both these guys are old. Both these guys. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying it like it is. They are both.

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Speaker 1: These guys were at one point the highest level in

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Speaker 1: the world, but when they fought it was about five

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Speaker 1: years too late. Then that was eleven years ago, and

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Speaker 1: we saw how the fight went. Then, What would make

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Speaker 2: They're a little older, a little slower.

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Speaker 1: And they're still willing to get in there and do it,

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Speaker 1: that maybe we would get more of a slugfest. I

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Speaker 1: still don't know if Mayweather's reflexes have diminished that much.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we saw Manny Pacquiao go toe to toe

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Speaker 2: This fight would even be.

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Speaker 1: The fact that forty six year old man he came

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Speaker 1: net good for boxing. It just means more eyes on

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Speaker 2: That is a good thing.

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Speaker 1: And again, this doesn't feel like as much of a

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Speaker 2: They had already fought before. You're talking about pound for pound,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't recommend it. But then again, many just fought

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Speaker 1: Fight and looked okay compared to what he was in

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Speaker 1: But what the difference in this and something like a

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Speaker 1: I think this is more like that than it is,

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Speaker 1: a great move. I mean, Netflix is I think doing

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Speaker 1: You don't see Netflix going out no offense to you know,

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Speaker 1: I think, again, that's a good thing that boxing is

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Speaker 1: brings more people to the sport. Do I wish that

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Speaker 1: that we could showcase the Ring four card on Netflix

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Speaker 2: Of course I do. But you have to find a

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Speaker 2: way to remind people about the sport of boxing. You

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Speaker 1: Way to get it in front of a massive audience

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Speaker 1: And in that way, again everyone eats and I think

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Speaker 2: Is it a good thing? Is it a bad thing.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have people that go, no, I don't want

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Speaker 2: I'm not one of those people.

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Speaker 2: Done. No, he was fifty eight.

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Speaker 1: You should be able to separate those, but some people won't,

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Speaker 1: my heavyweight champion is all right.

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Speaker 2: I don't know it.

439
00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:12,040
Speaker 1: Just watching him answer these questions, there isn't really any

440
00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,439
Speaker 1: thought given to the actual eyepoke and how it's affecting Tom.

441
00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:18,800
Speaker 2: More so just like, ugh, gotta do this shit again,

442
00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:19,280
Speaker 2: like he does.

443
00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,520
Speaker 1: It seems like he doesn't want to deal with this situation,

444
00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,880
Speaker 1: and not just asmental gone, but really Tom aspinall Again,

445
00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:28,440
Speaker 1: I could be reading too much in but that's just

446
00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,119
Speaker 1: the way I'm hearing him. It almost seems distraught and

447
00:18:31,200 --> 00:18:32,439
Speaker 1: kind of like I'm fed up with it.

448
00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,400
Speaker 4: The club date on tom or is it still too soon?

449
00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:35,760
Speaker 7: He's on his way to the hospital.

450
00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,280
Speaker 9: It's a bit of a weird question, right It was

451
00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:41,760
Speaker 9: ruled in no contest because of an unintentional eyepoke. What

452
00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:44,159
Speaker 9: does it take to make an ipoke intentional? And is

453
00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:45,640
Speaker 9: there even a way you could ever prove that?

454
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Speaker 7: Who the fuck knows? Who gives a shit? What are

455
00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:50,240
Speaker 7: you gonna do?

456
00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:51,639
Speaker 5: What?

457
00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:53,960
Speaker 2: I don't mind the answer.

458
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Speaker 1: You could tell he's Feda is pissed that this is

459
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Speaker 1: the way the thing ended, and I get it. We're

460
00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,520
Speaker 1: all pissed. That's not the way we want that fight

461
00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,360
Speaker 1: to go. But it's a good question. That's Oscar Willis

462
00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,520
Speaker 1: with the MacLife asking about the intentionality of strikes and

463
00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:10,120
Speaker 1: how do you even determine it? Because essentially this fight

464
00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,320
Speaker 1: was ruled a no contest because they determined that, and

465
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Speaker 1: I think rightfully that Cyril accidentally I poked him, and

466
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Speaker 1: because the intention was not mal malintent pars that you

467
00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,520
Speaker 1: can't disqualify him and because Cyril was probably winning that round.

468
00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:25,840
Speaker 1: Now there is a bit of a gray area when

469
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Speaker 1: you talk about the intentionality of strikes landing and what

470
00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,879
Speaker 1: that means, Like, does it matter if you intentionally foul

471
00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,320
Speaker 1: someone because you still fouled them, you still have to

472
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,320
Speaker 1: pay the price for fouling them. This is why I'm

473
00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:39,560
Speaker 1: in favor of taking points immediately, no warnings involved. But

474
00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:41,720
Speaker 1: if the fight is stopped, should that not be a DQ?

475
00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,919
Speaker 1: Should it be a no contest? I really don't know.

476
00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,840
Speaker 1: I feel like a no contest is the right call

477
00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,520
Speaker 1: because it was so early in the fight, because again,

478
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:52,000
Speaker 1: to me, was a mistake that if Cyrill Gon makes

479
00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,359
Speaker 1: that mistake whilst winning, I don't know. It just doesn't

480
00:19:54,359 --> 00:19:56,720
Speaker 1: feel right to go full on DQ. But he is

481
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Speaker 1: the reason that the fight was stopped. He is the

482
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Speaker 1: reason that the fight could not continue, and it was

483
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:01,719
Speaker 1: because of a foul.

484
00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,200
Speaker 2: So it's a good question. But you hear Dana like, ah,

485
00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,159
Speaker 2: who gives a shit? It just I don't know. It

486
00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:07,760
Speaker 2: feels like a checked out Dana White.

487
00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,879
Speaker 1: It does when he answers questions like that and like

488
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Speaker 1: not even giving time to answer in a way that

489
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Speaker 1: you know he could spin it into promoting the next

490
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,760
Speaker 1: event or spin it into all right, you know, we

491
00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:20,639
Speaker 1: do have to figure this out because I'm tired of

492
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,639
Speaker 1: this shit happening. Here's what I'm gonna do. Here's how

493
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm going to make a difference to eliminate this from

494
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Speaker 1: the sport. And I don't know that you can with ipokes.

495
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Speaker 1: I don't know that you can in any ways. Sure

496
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,360
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen, but just that the answer itself

497
00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,160
Speaker 1: is what I'm talking about. He's like, I don't who

498
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:36,520
Speaker 1: gives a shit? Who the fuck knows?

499
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:37,160
Speaker 2: Who gives a shit?

500
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 1: That doesn't scream a guy that's locked in when his

501
00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,239
Speaker 1: heavyweight champ potentially at this point he doesn't know has

502
00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:43,600
Speaker 1: got a really bad eye injury.

503
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,439
Speaker 2: And he's like, a who gives a fuck? You know,

504
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:47,200
Speaker 2: Like that's kind of crazy to hear.

505
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Speaker 9: I know, we uh, you know, tried to do new

506
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:51,360
Speaker 9: gloves before and.

507
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Speaker 4: That kind of didn't work out.

508
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Speaker 9: Is there anything we can do to stop these IPOs?

509
00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 9: Would you have a look at maybe trying to change

510
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Speaker 9: the gloves again or.

511
00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 4: Is it just part of the sport?

512
00:20:58,880 --> 00:20:59,760
Speaker 9: Just shit happens.

513
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, no matter what you do with the glove,

514
00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,080
Speaker 7: I mean that they're gonna happen, and what do.

515
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 1: You think for the rest of the it is gonna happen. Regardless,

516
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 1: I do think they should change the gloves. I think

517
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 1: that the Pride style glove where they cut the hands purposely,

518
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,480
Speaker 1: even if your hands are open, that they're gonna have

519
00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,160
Speaker 1: the fingers kind of back towards you more than straight out.

520
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 1: But then again, if you raise the hand up and

521
00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,080
Speaker 1: those curved gloves are this way, if you're trying to

522
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:27,000
Speaker 1: catch stuff, then.

523
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,120
Speaker 2: I don't know it. You're never gonna fix it completely.

524
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,159
Speaker 1: But it's funny when when Oscar Willis talks about you know,

525
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 1: we tried the new gloves for a little bit, and

526
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,880
Speaker 1: then the new gloves when the UFC introduced them, were

527
00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:37,879
Speaker 1: a bit more curved. They did have a bit more

528
00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 1: of a curvature to them. And funny enough, the guy

529
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,800
Speaker 1: that had the most trouble with him and didn't want

530
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Speaker 1: to wear them, and I'm not I don't know if

531
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,760
Speaker 1: it was solely because of him, but they tried them out.

532
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,760
Speaker 1: John Jones fucking hated them, didn't want to wear them,

533
00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,000
Speaker 1: refuse to wear them against the real God. And then

534
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:54,120
Speaker 1: they did go back to the original Glove. Most people

535
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 1: said that was because of the issue of guys not

536
00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 1: knocking people out, and you know, fight's not being as explosive.

537
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,679
Speaker 1: I don't don't know the reason, but one of the

538
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 1: bigger people that had an issue with the New Gloves

539
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 1: when they tried him was the serial iepoker himself, the

540
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:09,000
Speaker 1: man that should be in a mo and Curly three

541
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Speaker 1: stooges skit.

542
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:11,280
Speaker 2: It's John Jones.

543
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Speaker 1: He was gouging eyes, dude, like it was almost like

544
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,720
Speaker 1: sign language. The way he was poking fingers out at people.

545
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,199
Speaker 1: It was clear he was a problem and still is

546
00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,360
Speaker 1: if he ever fights again. So I don't know if

547
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 1: that has anything to do with why the Gloves went

548
00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,679
Speaker 1: the other way, But we all know that Dana he

549
00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 1: fancies himself some John Jones as the goat, so you

550
00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: can tell where he's leaning in.

551
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 2: That back and forth.

552
00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 1: If John or Tom were to have an issue, he's

553
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Speaker 1: going to side with John Jones.

554
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:36,760
Speaker 9: And I know that you said you'd want to do

555
00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 9: the remass between Tom and Cyril is very fresh, but

556
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 9: any potential timeline for that, like maybe January the kick

557
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 9: off the Paramount.

558
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Speaker 7: Card, Yeah, I mean they're both in shape other than

559
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,440
Speaker 7: whatever's wrong with his eye. You know, both guys are

560
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Speaker 7: not injured or so as soon as possible, thank you,

561
00:22:58,800 --> 00:22:59,159
Speaker 7: thank you.

562
00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,880
Speaker 1: I think that if Tom, which we've seen Tom's video now,

563
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,920
Speaker 1: we did a breakdown on that a couple of days ago.

564
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 1: I think that if if Tom is healthy, then it

565
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 1: would be a perfect situation. I mean, knock on wood,

566
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,159
Speaker 1: nothing bad happens again, because you again have a you

567
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,520
Speaker 1: can't have Oh God, I don't want to put it

568
00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:22,200
Speaker 1: out there. You can't have another flop for your first

569
00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:25,679
Speaker 1: fight on Paramount. If you guys remember the JDS and

570
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,360
Speaker 1: Caine fight I think was the one on Fox when

571
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,679
Speaker 1: they debuted, and it was a something I forgot what happened,

572
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 1: but it was a shitty first debut when the UFC

573
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 1: first went to Fox.

574
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Speaker 2: It was not a great night. You can't have that

575
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 2: kind of thing happened.

576
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 1: So again, hopefully nothing bad would happen again for these two.

577
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: But that would be a perfect landing spot for Tom

578
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 1: aspen On and surreal, God, is that first Paramount card

579
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Speaker 1: in January because you're kind of booked out to the

580
00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:52,240
Speaker 1: end of the year and you do want to make

581
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,720
Speaker 1: a splash on that first card. They were thinking maybe

582
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:57,920
Speaker 1: it'll be Ilia, maybe not. Now you have a perfect

583
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,400
Speaker 1: opportunity to slide this fight in there. People are gonna

584
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,080
Speaker 1: be more interested in it, and there's gonna be a

585
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 1: bit more of a buzz based off this first fight,

586
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: based off the controversy, and based off the performance of

587
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,040
Speaker 1: both guys in the time that we saw them fight.

588
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 2: So I think that would be a perfect spot the rule.

589
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 10: It's only the second time in a championship fight that

590
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 10: we do have a no contest for such thing. We

591
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 10: just have to go by the judges and the fighters will.

592
00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 10: That's just the way it is for him to say

593
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,760
Speaker 10: after five minutes, like can no longer continue. What I'm

594
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 10: trying to figure out is is there different levels of ipokes?

595
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 10: Do you see what I'm saying?

596
00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 7: Nobody sees what you're saying, sir?

597
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 2: What kind of question was that?

598
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 1: I guess what the guy's asking is like, is there

599
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 1: a way to determine severity of ipokes? And is there

600
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Speaker 1: a way to based off that delineate between no contest

601
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Speaker 1: and disqualification? And the answer as of right now, I

602
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: don't think unless you saw like a John Jones thing

603
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: where his hand is fully extended and his fingers.

604
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 2: Are parallel to the ground.

605
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,600
Speaker 1: He is like, you know, on purpose, like I'm gonna

606
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: stab you in the eyes if you come any closer

607
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 1: type of thing, Like he's jabbing with his hand open

608
00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 1: and he's like, ah, I don't. I don't know if

609
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: there's a way to determine intentionality, but that would be

610
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:23,320
Speaker 1: the way to delineate between no contest and disqualification. I

611
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: think it was mme.

612
00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 2: Guru that said he would like to.

613
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Speaker 1: See if you're down on the scorecards and you do

614
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 1: something like that, then yeah, you're getting dc'ed. If you're up,

615
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: then no contest. But I don't know, man, I think

616
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,439
Speaker 1: there just needs to be a clear, one rule application

617
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 1: for everything. If that means you get dq'ed as soon

618
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,760
Speaker 1: as you I poke someone and they can't continue, then fair.

619
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Speaker 2: Okay.

620
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,119
Speaker 1: If that's what we need to do to make a

621
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: concrete rule on these things, Yeah, it's gonna suck, but

622
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,800
Speaker 1: that at least discourages it to a point of like,

623
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Speaker 1: I may lose if I do this, even if it's

624
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: an accident, So let me be extra cautious on it, right,

625
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,840
Speaker 1: Like we have these kind of things in place for

626
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: headkicks when people are on the ground or uh you

627
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 1: know what used to be twelve to six elbows Like

628
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: those things are pretty hard stance.

629
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Speaker 2: You don't do them or you get de cued.

630
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 1: Maybe we can do something like daff rye Godget.

631
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Speaker 10: It's only up to the fighter to stay whether or

632
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 10: not he wants to continue.

633
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,919
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's just the way it is. Well, yeah, what

634
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,360
Speaker 7: I'm gonna say, Uh, hey, Tom, I guess no, you're

635
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 7: gonna keep fighting.

636
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 10: Cereal try to tell him or go toward him, And

637
00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 10: Jason Arisox said don't talk to the opponent at that point,

638
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 10: so I guess they were trying to figure out to

639
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 10: one another.

640
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 7: You can't just like you know, I can't make people fight,

641
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,760
Speaker 7: right if I if I want to put together a fight,

642
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 7: I can't make people fight. And you definitely can't make

643
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 7: somebody continue if they if they feel they've been injured.

644
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 7: Only Tom knows what happened, you know, could he see?

645
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 7: Couldn't he see? Could he continue? Only he knows that.

646
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 1: This is what I'm talking about. Man, Again, you see

647
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: the way he answers that question. Now again, the question

648
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,479
Speaker 1: was asked really like, oh, only only the fighter King

649
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: determined that, and he kind of walked Dana into saying like, again,

650
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: how do we make a concrete ruling here? But again

651
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 1: we're talking about Tom's choice, in Dana's words, choice only

652
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: he can decide whether he wants to fight or not

653
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: to continue fighting with no vision in one eye and

654
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 1: blurry vision in the other versus Again, I don't think

655
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: Cyril did it on purpose, but Surrel committed the foul.

656
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Speaker 1: He is in the wrong here Tom is not in

657
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Speaker 1: the wrong. And the same way I said this about

658
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Speaker 1: Henry Suhuto and Songya Dong where he got song youa

659
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Speaker 1: donged in his fucking eyeballs. You can look at this

660
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Speaker 1: fighter as a referee and ask him what he wants

661
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: to do. And that's a terrible way of judging in

662
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: my opinion, because the rules should protect a fighter in

663
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Speaker 1: this moment more so than the old you know, pull

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Speaker 1: yourself up by your bootstraps and get on with it, fighter,

665
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 1: because in every scenario where a fighter not every but

666
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: a lot of scenarios where a fighter continues on after

667
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 1: being eye gouged, they lose DC and the Steep Bay

668
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: Fight Steepe in the d C trilogy as well Henry Sejudo,

669
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Speaker 1: Song You Dong. These are things that continually happen because

670
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 1: they're compromised, and for Dana to sit there and talk about, well,

671
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:03,679
Speaker 1: only Tom knows if he could see or not.

672
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: And I can't make guys fight.

673
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: I can't make him while not giving any sort of like, hey, yeah,

674
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: it's a real fucked up it's his fault that this happened.

675
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 1: And if he doesn't do that, then we're not having

676
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Speaker 1: this discussion. We don't hear that from Danta. I mean,

677
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: he's not saying it, but he's kind of saying only

678
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:19,040
Speaker 1: Tom knows if he was really hurt or not. Only

679
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:20,479
Speaker 1: Tom knows if he was looking for a way out

680
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 1: or not. Like he's not saying those specific words, but

681
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: he's essentially doing that, and that's fucking crazy. Tom.

682
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:27,840
Speaker 2: We saw go to the doctor.

683
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Speaker 1: He described it as his eyeball feeling like his his

684
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Speaker 1: ey've always poked into the back of his skull.

685
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:34,439
Speaker 2: That's what happened.

686
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Speaker 7: Dude.

687
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Speaker 1: Again, I don't think the intentionality really matters when we're

688
00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: talking about who should be, you know, receiving the blame

689
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: for this, and it really shouldn't even be like a

690
00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: who should be receiving the blame?

691
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 2: How do we go forward?

692
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: Having confidence in the heavyweight champion of the world, if

693
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 1: not only the online fan base is like, ah, look

694
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: at Tom, scared quitter blah, yeah, have the freaking head

695
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,520
Speaker 1: of the UFC being like, well, I don't really know.

696
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,760
Speaker 1: I can't make him fight. You know, only he knows

697
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: what are we doing. I was disappointed in the way

698
00:28:59,360 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: this fight.

699
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 2: Was Bill up.

700
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: I'm more disappointed in the way this is being handled

701
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:04,360
Speaker 1: the presser.

702
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 2: This is crazy.

703
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: You try not to venture into like having personal bias,

704
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: but Dana clearly likes some fighters and doesn't like others.

705
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 1: I don't know how you look at this and don't

706
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 1: think Dana has a bias, so like not like Tom

707
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: aspitall because that's what he's telling us here.

708
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,160
Speaker 7: First of all, I can sit here right now. The

709
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:22,080
Speaker 7: fight just got over, however long ago. What makes sense

710
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 7: is to do the rematch. It makes sense, you know,

711
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 7: sitting here tonight, I said, yeah, that makes sense. I'm

712
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 7: not saying that's what's gonna happen. Anything happened between now

713
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 7: and you know when I get him. We're not talking

714
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 7: this Tuesday. I go from here to Saudi. I go

715
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 7: to Qatar, then Saudi. I'm still here for another eight

716
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 7: or nine days, So I don't know what's gonna happen.

717
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 7: I'm not saying anybody is going to be a number

718
00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 7: one contender outside of Cyril Gone. I don't know. But

719
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 7: right here, right now, being honest, which I never do

720
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 7: this ever, is talk about you know what next fight's

721
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 7: gonna happen. The rematch is what makes sense.

722
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Speaker 1: I was gonna say, he's talking like, rematch may not

723
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: even be the thing he wants to do or that

724
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Speaker 1: they go with. He's like, I'm not saying that's what

725
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: happens next, but it makes sense. If you don't give

726
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: this fight a rematch, that would be even worse. I mean, yeah,

727
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: you could do like imagine Tom is like, oh, I'm

728
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 1: not gonna give that guy a rematch, that cheater or whatever,

729
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: and you do Tom versus Volkov two. Ah.

730
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Speaker 2: You have to ride this wave. You have to.

731
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: I think Dana wants to see it out and see

732
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 1: the rematch, but there's so much now built up to

733
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: this fight, there's so much attention around it, it would

734
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: be a flat fucking miss to not do it again. Ironically,

735
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 1: this ipokes has garnered more attention around this fight than

736
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Speaker 1: it ever had before.

737
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Speaker 2: Any of that stuff.

738
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Speaker 1: This fight, it was a big fight for the people

739
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Speaker 1: in the in the MMA space, but now it's reaching

740
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,120
Speaker 1: other levels of casual fans that are gonna be locked

741
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Speaker 1: in for this second one because they're on one of

742
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: two sides.

743
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,240
Speaker 2: They're on the syrilla as a cheater. Fuck that guy.

744
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: I hope Tom knocks him outside or Tom aspinall quit.

745
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: He didn't want no part of it. I hope Cyril

746
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,440
Speaker 1: gets the job done even more this time. Like you're

747
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: seeing these splits happen right now in the m A

748
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: scene and you have to run with it.

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Speaker 6: With the few things we've seen into this fight, I

750
00:31:07,240 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 6: feel like Cyril was doing pretty well. Do you feel

751
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 6: the same, and do you feel that he's earned respect

752
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 6: so that people would care even more when you make

753
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 6: this fight again and the odds would be more equivalent.

754
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Speaker 7: Yes, yes, I agree. I think that I said earlier

755
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 7: because of the John Jones fight. I think everybody was

756
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 7: sleeping on cyro Gune and and sort of wrote him off.

757
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 7: And he's right behind me. He's coming in next, so

758
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 7: you guys can ask him how he felt. But I

759
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 7: feel like, you know, I'm sure in his camp he

760
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 7: was training like a animal. For this fight, and it's

761
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 7: unfortunate that it ended the way that it did. And yes,

762
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 7: I think that there probably will be a lot more

763
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 7: interest in the rematch after they saw you know, I mean,

764
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 7: he had Tom bloodied up, and you know Tom didn't

765
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 7: didn't want to continue in the fight. So God is

766
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 7: very interesting.

767
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Speaker 1: You only answer a question that way if you fucking

768
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: hate your heavyweight champion.

769
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: You can't convince me otherwise.

770
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 1: Yes, the question was asked about Cyril, but Dana attributes

771
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 1: all of the things that happened good in the.

772
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 2: Fight to just Cyril. God.

773
00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: You hear him talking about you know, people wrote Cyril off.

774
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: I agree with him, by the way, based on the

775
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,600
Speaker 1: John Jones fight, people did write Cyril gone off and

776
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 1: say that Tom was gonna run through him.

777
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 2: And all that.

778
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: But you hear him then go, yeah, you know, I

779
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: bet Cyril was training like an animal for this, not

780
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: mentioning that Tom Aspinall has been off for fifteen months.

781
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 2: He was probably training his ass off too.

782
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: No, and mostly the time he took off was because

783
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 1: he was trying to lobby for a John Jones fight

784
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 1: that the UFC never got done for. This is the

785
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: way a fan of Cyril or John Jones and a

786
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: hater of Tom Aspinall speaks. Again, maybe it's just me

787
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: reading too much into it that sounds like coded language,

788
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: like yeah, Tom didn't want it anymore, you know, like, yeah,

789
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 1: he had him blooded up and he just didn't want

790
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: to go. No, he got his eyes gouged and he

791
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 1: couldn't see what are we talking about?

792
00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 2: This is your heavyweight champion.

793
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: And again I have to think you only speak this

794
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: way if you have a preconceived bias. And I say

795
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,000
Speaker 1: preconceived because I don't think this just developed tonight. I

796
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: don't think this just happened where you know, Dana just decided,

797
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: oh fuck Tom Aspinall, he's a quitter or whatever. Think

798
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 1: it's because the things we've talked about in previous videos,

799
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: like something like this this week from Andy Aspinall, which

800
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: by the way, I will say is a terrible, terrible

801
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: thing for Andy Aspinall, Tom's father and head coach to

802
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: be doing during fight week talking about how he's going

803
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 1: to take Tom out of MMA and take him into

804
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: boxing because the pay's better over there. They only have

805
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 1: a couple of fights left, and then he doesn't want

806
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: him to sign a new contract with the UFC. This

807
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: is stuff that you don't do as the sitting heavyweight

808
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 1: champion because all it does is burn bridges with the

809
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:41,720
Speaker 1: decision makers at the UFC.

810
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 10: You said that you wanted a box some champion off

811
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 10: the ship. You're okay with an MMA champion, but you

812
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 10: wanted a box some champion.

813
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 11: Boxing could show the money more money, I know, would that?

814
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 4: Would that be an outcome?

815
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 5: F it?

816
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 3: No, he's three more fights on the contract, fight Oka,

817
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 3: So I don't want to sign a new conference, okay

818
00:33:58,880 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 3: person with.

819
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Speaker 2: Him before the fight.

820
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: Tom now has two fights left on his deal, and man,

821
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: I just have a feeling it's gonna be a rough

822
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,800
Speaker 1: two fights. They're gonna try to give Tom aspinall because again,

823
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: if you remember back when Dana White had issues with

824
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: Francis and Gan who heading into the last part of

825
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: his career. Remember Dana White was all about heard of

826
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: the Francis and Gan who trained when he was gonna

827
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: fight step A for the first time. Dana White, remember

828
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: he had some issues with Steve A at that time.

829
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 1: All the talk was about Francis, how he hits harder

830
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: than a Chevy Cruz going twenty miles an hour, or something,

831
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 1: and how he's the most devastating whatever in heavyweight history.

832
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,720
Speaker 1: This is all things that were being said about Francis

833
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: and gan Who before the first step A fight, and

834
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: then step A beats Francis. I'm pretty sure Dana didn't

835
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: put the belt on steep A after he beat Francis again,

836
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,000
Speaker 1: a little sign that there wasn't a great relationship there.

837
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 1: I think step A took the belt, gave it to

838
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: his coach, and let the coach put it on him.

839
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: And then Dana got in the press conference afterwards and

840
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: I think was trashing Francis a little bit. He wasn't prepared,

841
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: he was smelling the roses and all that, and then

842
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 1: he got back on the Francis train. Francis started to

843
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: get those wins back and beat Stepe the second time,

844
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Dana White was saying John

845
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: Jones shouldn't come up and fight Francis, and god who

846
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: don't want that smoke essentially, And then as things played

847
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: out a little further and Francis got toward the end

848
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 1: of that contract and you started to hear Dana White

849
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,800
Speaker 1: talk about how France has had the wrong people around

850
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: him and how he was hard to deal with, and

851
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: Dana can be right about all those things.

852
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 2: And it maybe is that.

853
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 1: We're seeing more and more now with Francis. But the

854
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,360
Speaker 1: point I'm making is this is a pattern of behavior.

855
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: If you give Dana an opportunity to look at you

856
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: as somebody that's not going to be good for business,

857
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: that someone that doesn't want to do business, or that

858
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 1: someone that's going to turn their back on the UFC,

859
00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:35,759
Speaker 1: he's not gonna like you. And this is why I

860
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,320
Speaker 1: think he's starting to hate the Aspinalls and Tom Aspenall

861
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 1: in general. Not to mention one of the cardinals sins

862
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 1: when you're dealing with Dana White, one of the things

863
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 1: he hates more than anything. And I agree with him

864
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: on this is a champion that won't fight his friends. Again.

865
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:47,760
Speaker 2: It's not like any.

866
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: Other sport where you're playing the sport against your friend,

867
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: but this is fighting, so emotions can can dictate how

868
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: you defend whatever. Here's Dana White responding to Tom Asminal saying,

869
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: essentially he wouldn't fight one of his friends that just

870
00:35:59,080 --> 00:35:59,720
Speaker 1: entered the UFC.

871
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 3: The guy that's currently ranked number ten is his friend

872
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 3: Anti Elijah, and he would vacate the title. If Delijah

873
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 3: got to a point where he was going to fight

874
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,360
Speaker 3: for the title.

875
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 5: He's one of like my genuine friends, I'll vacate it

876
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 5: and he can have his time.

877
00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 12: Really, I wouldn't fight. There's some stuff to me that's

878
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 12: like more important than my money and titles.

879
00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 7: You know what I think about that. I hate that.

880
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 7: You know, you know, many friends, relatives, name it, have

881
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 7: all fought each other before. You know, it doesn't determine

882
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 7: whether you were friends with somebody or you hate somebody.

883
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:44,759
Speaker 7: You're competing against them to see who the best is.

884
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 7: But that's his decision, you know. You know, if he

885
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 7: defends the title and does whatever he does. To even

886
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 7: think about vacating it because you don't want to compete

887
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 7: against somebody is absolutely insane. But he's a grown man.

888
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:58,520
Speaker 7: That's up to him.

889
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 2: This is the type of stuff I'm telling you.

890
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 1: It's been building now, and this was just this week.

891
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 1: This was just this fight week. So I have to

892
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 1: think it's been building for a while now. But when

893
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 1: you see all this evidence laid out, I think my

894
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: assumption here is pretty clear.

895
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: Dana White fucking hates Tom Aspital. I think he hates

896
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,400
Speaker 2: dealing with him or his dad.

897
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: I think he hates the outcome of this fight and

898
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: probably attributes it more to Tom than he does Surreal Gone,

899
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: which I think is insane, and I think potentially this

900
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 1: could be also a part of this John Jones discussion

901
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,360
Speaker 1: that's been going on for the last it feels like

902
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 1: a year now about who is the best in the world.

903
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 2: Or top pound for pound number one.

904
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 1: Dana has always had issues with John Jones, but for

905
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: whatever reason, recently has stuck by him for power for pound,

906
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 1: for best ever, for best in the UFC right now,

907
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: and even after the Tom Asmanal fight fell through, he

908
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: is still somewhat taking that side of things, which as

909
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 1: the promoter, I feel like you could.

910
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:52,400
Speaker 2: You don't have to do that.

911
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 1: Dana's always run it his way, and he's gotten personal

912
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: with people before the title Ortez of the World, which

913
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: I think he was right about in some cases. He

914
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: had his grievances and it was fair there as well,

915
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,440
Speaker 1: But you know Francis and Ganu, and there's been so

916
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,800
Speaker 1: many But I just feel like this is the worst

917
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: thing that could possibly happen for Tom aspinall right now

918
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 1: is the pylon effect that's happening online, the ipoke of doom,

919
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 1: his dad's saying a lot of these things this week.

920
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 2: I think that was a terrible move.

921
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: Him saying he doesn't want to defend versus his friends,

922
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: the idea of him moving to boxing and leaving the

923
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:23,319
Speaker 1: heavyweight division, all of it is bad. And now he

924
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 1: essentially has to fight Surial God and the UFC in

925
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: this rematch in January, and hope to God nothing bad happens,

926
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: because as of right now, all blade all hatred from

927
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 1: the top from the decision makers at the UFC, with

928
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: Tom still having two fights left.

929
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 2: They don't like him.

930
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: That's what I think, you guys, let me know down below.

931
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:42,959
Speaker 1: I don't think this thing is gonna get better before

932
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: it gets worse.

933
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 2: I hope so.

934
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: But it doesn't look like this relationship is panning out.

935
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: We've seen this story before. It usually ends ugly. What

936
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: do you think happens? Don't have those answers, but I

937
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: guess we'll find out.

938
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: Folks.

939
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: We're back on the way concept presented by The Ring magazine,

940
00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: and oh my goodness, what just happened?

941
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 2: And I was at a family get together.

942
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: As you can see, I'm back home in Tennessee.

943
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 2: I was just hanging out with.

944
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,720
Speaker 1: The fam and all of a sudden, a massive trailer

945
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: from Misfits just dropped and they're calling it the Fight

946
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:11,360
Speaker 1: before Christmas.

947
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 2: We predicted this.

948
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 1: Just a couple of I guess weeks ago now massive announcements,

949
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 1: Andrew tait apparently storming the castle here Trojan Horse into Misfits.

950
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 1: There's so much to get to, but the main thing

951
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm taking away is that there is some at least

952
00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,760
Speaker 1: what seems to be ruffling of the feathers mallard between

953
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: KSI and Misfits.

954
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 2: Ma'am's saying he's done with we.

955
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: Let me just get to the trailer and I'll tell

956
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: you guys what I actually think, because what I'm not

957
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: so sure about is that what we're seeing is the

958
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,840
Speaker 1: actual case of what's going on with Misfits. I have

959
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 1: my own theories of what's happening behind the scenes, but

960
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,239
Speaker 1: I'll get to that as soon as we break down

961
00:39:47,280 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: The Fight before Christmas. Du Bay, December twenty twenty twenty five.

962
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: Andrew Taitu is for sure fighting.

963
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 2: But a whole lot more than that. What do I

964
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:55,759
Speaker 2: mean the breakdown?

965
00:39:56,480 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 11: Let's go, ladies and gentlemen, some of you may know me,

966
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 11: Mams Taylor, president of Misfits Boxing.

967
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 2: I'm just stopper.

968
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: We're not eleven seconds into the video, and the first

969
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:21,160
Speaker 1: thing ma'am says is something may know, ma'am. If anybody

970
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: is watching this video that doesn't know who Mans is,

971
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: maybe they're new fans to Misfits.

972
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: But I don't know why.

973
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: That cracked me up. And he's got the shades on.

974
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, all right, real quick, we have we

975
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: have it looks like new sponsors Duel dot com And

976
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: is this say, Memo House or Memehouse, something called meme House.

977
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,720
Speaker 1: Two new sponsors of Misfits right away, that's what I'm seeing.

978
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna hit a new rock star style breakdown with this.

979
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: Mams has got some sort of designer shades on, and

980
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: the designer shades have a design on them.

981
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 2: That's gotta be some double entendre. The beard is.

982
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,399
Speaker 1: Gray with white, meaning he's either ready for his winter

983
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: phase or there's been a lot of stress going on

984
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 1: behind the scenes of Misfits. Stay tuned for that. And

985
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:04,040
Speaker 1: then he's got his Gucci denim jacket on, which you

986
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 1: know every farmer in Tennessee war.

987
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 2: I love man's dude.

988
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 4: I come here today to give you some news.

989
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: Some of you want, what is the chessboard looking like chess?

990
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 11: But look at that like some of you will, Okay,

991
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 11: you'll understand because it's coming from a place of truth.

992
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 11: Misfits Boxing has been around for just over three years now,

993
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 11: three amazing years. We've achieved some incredible accomplishments.

994
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 4: When kas I said.

995
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:34,759
Speaker 1: It is crazy, I know a positive a lot. It

996
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: is crazy to think that Misfits has been around for

997
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: three years twenty twenty two.

998
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 2: I remember it like it was yesterday. It was incredible.

999
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 1: I mean there was so much potential and hype for

1000
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 1: this company and this card was insane. And KSI with

1001
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 1: the two fights in one night, don't really know if

1002
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: that worked out so good for swarms, and it kind

1003
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,600
Speaker 1: of did for swarms of Banata, I'll be honest.

1004
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 4: Uh.

1005
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: And then you had FUZI was on that car dead.

1006
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 2: He was on that car.

1007
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:01,000
Speaker 1: Christian Bank Junior was on the broadcat cast team that night.

1008
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,360
Speaker 1: True Jordy legend. By the way, a guy that doesn't

1009
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: get enough credit in this scene, A guy that should

1010
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: be a part of this scene. Still Team Star was

1011
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 1: there freaking everybody. It was insane. That was one of

1012
00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: my first massive opportunities as well. Wow, three years later,

1013
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: man insane.

1014
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 11: When KSI said I want to box, I said, let's

1015
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 11: have your own IP. You don't need to work for anyone.

1016
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,560
Speaker 11: Let's create our own IP. I came up with the

1017
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 11: name Misfits Boxing. I coined the phrase crossover boxing. I

1018
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 11: put everything together. We had a tremendous run. KSI was

1019
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 11: fighting two three times a year, and then KSI said, hey,

1020
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 11: I need a break from boxing. The break was over,

1021
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 11: it was time for him to fight. He got sick,

1022
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 11: he hurt his hand fair enough. Then it happened a

1023
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 11: second time and almost sank the ship of Misfits.

1024
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: Ma'am's mams is kind of turning on KSI. Here you

1025
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: hear him in the first part of this thing.

1026
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 5: Go.

1027
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,479
Speaker 1: You know, I built the name, or I created the name.

1028
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: I coined the term crossover boxing. I handle all of

1029
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 1: the details. I did a lot of this. Ma'am's like

1030
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 1: puffing his chest out saying listen, CASI. You know, he

1031
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: just kind of showed up. I did all the work

1032
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: behind the scene.

1033
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: This is my shit.

1034
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: That's kind of what I'm getting at here now. I

1035
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: can't even believe what I'm seeing. You have to take

1036
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 1: a lot of this, I think, with a grain of salt,

1037
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 1: because you know what Misfits and what Mams likes to

1038
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 1: do very much, entertainment factor very much. We're gonna get

1039
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: you to buy in because of a storyline here?

1040
00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 2: Is that what I'm seeing?

1041
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,279
Speaker 1: Am I seeing a storyline created right in front of

1042
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: my eyes here? Because if there's one person I had

1043
00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:46,800
Speaker 1: known Mams to never turn on ever, it was KSI

1044
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: and vice versa. Right, There's been multiple opportunities for that

1045
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 1: to happen, and both guys have stayed loyal. It's a

1046
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 1: massive trade of both of them guys. They stay loyal

1047
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 1: to people that are loyal to that.

1048
00:43:56,239 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 2: But this is interesting, this is interesting.

1049
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: I'm getting worked here, I know I am, but I

1050
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 1: think it's hilarious.

1051
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 4: Is awesome boxing. And since then, it's been a tweet here,

1052
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 4: a story there.

1053
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 11: That's it. He's the CEO. Where's Misfits gonna go from here?

1054
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,920
Speaker 11: It's got to be a two way street when you

1055
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 11: have a partnership, and this is a one way street

1056
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 11: and this street is going down.

1057
00:44:21,719 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 4: I won't allow Misfits boxing to go down.

1058
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 2: Hey, he ain't lying.

1059
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: Hey, hold on again, this is probably a work you

1060
00:44:30,239 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, This is probably like a storyline.

1061
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 2: Vine we're talking about promoting this company, now, is it?

1062
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: KSI's full on responsibility. He has other things to do.

1063
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying, You know what I mean,

1064
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 1: there's a tweet here, There is a story there, you know,

1065
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 1: cas I. You know he has the sidemen, he has

1066
00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: a baller league, I think is what he does now.

1067
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: He has Britain's got talent and obviously prime and.

1068
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 2: He's just doing a lot of stuff.

1069
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 1: So yeah, you know, his attention hasn't been on Misfits

1070
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: as much as somebody like Mams, who is pretty much

1071
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 1: full in with this thing. So even when I know

1072
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,479
Speaker 1: this is probably a storyline, he's still taking some little

1073
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,440
Speaker 1: slick shots like, Hey, I'm gonna tell the truth a

1074
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 1: little bit here. I'm gonna get my shit off, cass I.

1075
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: If you watching, just just know that I'm ment it

1076
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: all right, Just know that I'm meant it. Okay, Mams.

1077
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:20,760
Speaker 11: But I had a board meeting earlier this morning, and KSI,

1078
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 11: you are no longer the CEO of Misfits Boxing you

1079
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 11: have been relinquished of your duties as CEO.

1080
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 4: We need a new CEO.

1081
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 1: Okay. So MAM's had a meeting of the Misfits board

1082
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: of which KSI was not invited to, and they have

1083
00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: unanimously approved the removal of KSI as the CEO.

1084
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: Fuck out of here. So I tend to look at

1085
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 2: this and split it down the middle.

1086
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 1: Yes, this is probably storyline. This is definitely a WWE

1087
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: type of work. And on the reality side, kiss KSI

1088
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: done with the company? Probably not? Is it gonna take

1089
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,040
Speaker 1: more of a backseat role? I think this promo I

1090
00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: was telling us yes, which I find even more interesting

1091
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: when you look at this in a realistic way. This

1092
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: probably does mean KSI is going to take steps away

1093
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: from the company as being maybe the face of it,

1094
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: as someone that's going to be on the you know,

1095
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,400
Speaker 1: day to day involved with it, and he's going to

1096
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 1: focus on other things while still having his connection, probably

1097
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 1: more behind the scenes though no offense. But does he

1098
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 1: bring a ton to Misfits if he's not fighting? Are

1099
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: you tuning in to watch KSI watch the cards?

1100
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1101
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:23,680
Speaker 13: Like?

1102
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 2: What is he?

1103
00:46:24,840 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: Are you tuning into the press conference to see him

1104
00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: sitting in the middle. I'm just saying it's not the

1105
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,799
Speaker 1: worst idea if he's not going to be fighting, which

1106
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,360
Speaker 1: to think as of a couple days ago, Leo, you

1107
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: can find the tweet. I'm pretty sure Ksi said he

1108
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:36,960
Speaker 1: still hadn't scheduled hand surgery yet, which I could do

1109
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,680
Speaker 1: a whole nother video on. But I think it tells

1110
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: me kaos I not only is not going to be

1111
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: fighting anytime soon, he may never fight again, because if

1112
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:46,439
Speaker 1: he's not gotten hand surgery now to get ready for

1113
00:46:46,800 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: a fight in the new year.

1114
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:49,520
Speaker 2: These things, when.

1115
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:51,839
Speaker 1: You tend to put them off and you have other

1116
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: ventures and other projects that you're passionate about, and more

1117
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: and more and more you lean into those, Eventually you

1118
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,720
Speaker 1: will find your way away from the sport.

1119
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 2: You have to be locked in to be boxing, you

1120
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 2: just have to.

1121
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,760
Speaker 1: And if you're not going to commit to even getting

1122
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,800
Speaker 1: the hand surgery, which again I'm not saying he should

1123
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: if he's got these other things he's doing, But if

1124
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: you're not going to commit to that, if that's not

1125
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,439
Speaker 1: something that's priority number one or two on your list

1126
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: of things to do, it tells me not only is

1127
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 1: are you not prioritizing that. But that if so facto

1128
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: means you're not prioritizing fighting, And we knew that kind

1129
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: of beforehand, but now it kind of reinforces that.

1130
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 2: So I don't mind this. Take it for how you want,

1131
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 2: in storyline or not. It's probably a good.

1132
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: Thing that they're trying to jump start something in this company.

1133
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 1: I like it. But the question now becomes it's storyline.

1134
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 1: Who's gonna be the new CEO? I think I know, but.

1135
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 11: A CEO who's going to dedicate that life to this brand.

1136
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,719
Speaker 11: A CEO who's going to fight for this brand in

1137
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 11: the ring out the ring man's is like.

1138
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:47,880
Speaker 2: I'm fighting, it's me.

1139
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 1: He strips off the jacket and now he's got boxing

1140
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,400
Speaker 1: gloves on. I've been hitting the punch machine.

1141
00:47:54,440 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 4: It's my time and not CEO is here.

1142
00:47:57,960 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 11: Oh oh please welcome on uce.

1143
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh no, dude.

1144
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 4: Say hello to your new CEO.

1145
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 3: I wouldn't say it was a hostile takeover, but it

1146
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 3: was certainly planned.

1147
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,840
Speaker 1: And man, oh my god, Andrews A is the in

1148
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: storyline new CEO of Misfits. All right, before we even

1149
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 1: hear the spiel, Actually, should we just let him do

1150
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: his thing. Let's let's hear Andrew Tate's shpield. Then I'll

1151
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 1: give you my thoughts because I think I know where

1152
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: this is going to go.

1153
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 3: I think, but let's watch Chams and I are going

1154
00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:42,200
Speaker 3: to be working together to finally put Misfits where it

1155
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 3: belongs on the world stage, the largest disruptive force in

1156
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 3: sports entertainment history. So, considering that somebody who failed at

1157
00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 3: their obligations to make this organization as big as it

1158
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 3: should have been has been ousted, and I'm the new CEO,

1159
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 3: I guess it's my job to make the most entertaining fights.

1160
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 4: Who's the person.

1161
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 3: Who everybody wants to see fight? Who's the guy I

1162
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 3: can sign that everybody will tune in to watch fight?

1163
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 7: It's me? Isn't that convenient?

1164
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 4: Quite easy?

1165
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 3: I heard he's a great guy, easy to work with.

1166
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,440
Speaker 2: It's me, all right.

1167
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: So a couple of things I'm seeing, we're gonna, we're gonna.

1168
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:22,360
Speaker 1: I know, I'm gonna let it play a second. But

1169
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:26,440
Speaker 1: Number one takes playing a role here clearly as his

1170
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: way of being introduced to the Misfits fan base.

1171
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 2: I will say this is going to be very controversial.

1172
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: It's like, ma'am said at the beginning of this, some

1173
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: people are not gonna like this at all because of

1174
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,800
Speaker 1: the allegations, because of the things that surround Andrew Tape,

1175
00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 1: as far as his reputation, as far as the like

1176
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: I said, the allegations.

1177
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 2: Against him, with all of the different ones.

1178
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 1: Across his entire life, it seems like and the controversy

1179
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:53,240
Speaker 1: that comes with that. Right, there's a lot, a lot

1180
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: of controversy that comes with Andrew Tape. But he is

1181
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:58,880
Speaker 1: also one of the most popular people on the planet

1182
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,600
Speaker 1: bar none. Andrew Tate, even now in twenty twenty five,

1183
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: is one of the most talked about people in this

1184
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 1: kind of crossover thing space whatever, whether it's politics, whether

1185
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 1: it's pop culture, whether it's even fighting. People do forget

1186
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: that the guy was a somewhat accomplished high level kickboxer.

1187
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 1: Now he's not only in the storyline but going to

1188
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 1: become CEO whatever that means. But what this really tells

1189
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: me is that Andrew Tate is gonna have not only

1190
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: opportunities in the ring, he's gonna probably have some influence

1191
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:30,920
Speaker 1: on these Misfits events. I mean, they are going to Dubai.

1192
00:50:30,960 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 1: I don't even think Andrew Tate can compete in the

1193
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 1: UK right now, definitely not in the US.

1194
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: I could be.

1195
00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,719
Speaker 1: Wrong, but that's already an influence. And also you hear

1196
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: how he's taken little shots at KSI. I could be

1197
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: wrong about this. This could be a way of like

1198
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: distancing KSI, like I said, from the company early on,

1199
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: just because he's got so many obligations. But this also

1200
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: could be potentially if they're looking for a KSI fight,

1201
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,240
Speaker 1: not soon, but down the line.

1202
00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 2: New ceo, old CEO.

1203
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: I mean, it's straight out of WWE. It's straight out

1204
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 1: of the actual Vince McMahon. Vince gets ousted from the

1205
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: company and Eric Bischoff takes over, and Eric Bischoff is there,

1206
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: and he's the new CEO for a couple of months,

1207
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,160
Speaker 1: for a year, and then all of a sudden, Vince

1208
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: Music hits here. He comes back to take his company right,

1209
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,800
Speaker 1: or he has someone like Stone Cold fight on behalf

1210
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 1: of him. I don't know, But if we're talking about

1211
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: like storyline stuff, when he's taking those little subtle shots

1212
00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: at KSI, that's what it.

1213
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:21,880
Speaker 2: Makes me think. But this is wild.

1214
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: I mean this having injur Taate be the main character

1215
00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 1: of Misfits. I don't think I ever saw coming. I

1216
00:51:27,440 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: saw him, you know, fighting on Misfits. I mean we

1217
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 1: called this a couple of weeks ago. It was pretty

1218
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: much anne deal, and I thought you would even do

1219
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: it beforehand. I thought he was gonna fight Jake Paul

1220
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty three. But having him be the main character, WHOA.

1221
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, It is going to get

1222
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: spicy online again.

1223
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:44,000
Speaker 2: It's gonna be good.

1224
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: It's gonna be bad, but I guarantee you people will

1225
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: not be indifferent about injurw Tate joining Misfits. People are

1226
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 1: going to have something to say regardless. I haven't even

1227
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: been online yet, but I can almost guarantee there is

1228
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: a complete whirlwind of people talking about this because it's

1229
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: almost unbelievable that he would fight again. But now not

1230
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: only dad, he has some sort of influence in the company,

1231
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: potentially allegedly, I don't know, could just be for show,

1232
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,239
Speaker 1: but still they're putting an event on in Dubai for him.

1233
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: He's taking the main stage here. Let's keep it going.

1234
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 3: So for that reason, I myself, I'm gonna be fighting

1235
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 3: as CEO on the next Misfit show December twentieth. Here

1236
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 3: in Dubai out of them, I'm gonna fight. I mean,

1237
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,439
Speaker 3: it's been a while. I'm gonna train and get in there.

1238
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 3: I may as well do it for a belt. And

1239
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 3: if it's gonna be for a belt, it may as

1240
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 3: well be for the biggest one. So I, as CEO,

1241
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 3: order a mandatory title defense for the Heavyweight Misfits belt

1242
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 3: between myself Andrew the top g King Kobra.

1243
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 7: Tate against Chase De Moor.

1244
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 3: You don't have a chance and you don't have a choice, Chase,

1245
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:45,400
Speaker 3: you have to do it.

1246
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 11: It is.

1247
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: That's kind of a nasty line. You don't have a

1248
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: chance or a choice, Chase, you gotta do it again.

1249
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:55,399
Speaker 1: It's Andrew Tait and this is gonna be controversial for sure.

1250
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: I just I like the idea of bringing in a

1251
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: CEO that is going to fight and he's picking matchups

1252
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:05,520
Speaker 1: for himself. Again, it does remind me of Wwes. He'll

1253
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: work like, I'm gonna pick a fight. I'm gonna put

1254
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:10,400
Speaker 1: myself in the best opportunity and I'm gonna pick whoever

1255
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: I want to fight, and then at that point they

1256
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 1: gotta fight me. Guess why?

1257
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:15,880
Speaker 2: Because I'm the voss around here and you don't have

1258
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 2: a say in the matter.

1259
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: It's kind of like I said, it's it's Tate, but

1260
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,640
Speaker 1: it's also the idea behind it is a pretty ingenious

1261
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:25,240
Speaker 1: one if you're just falling in love with the storyline,

1262
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,200
Speaker 1: if you're just taking the storyline for what it is. Again,

1263
00:53:27,200 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 1: in reality, this is Misfits way, in my opinion, of

1264
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 1: making a big fight for Tate, of giving attention to

1265
00:53:33,040 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: this fight for Tate. And Tate is going to promo

1266
00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: the shit out of it. He's already done a better

1267
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: promo right here, no joke, and I don't even mean

1268
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:41,359
Speaker 1: this to be like, oh, Tate versus KSI, but this

1269
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 1: is one take into the camera, and this is better

1270
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: than anything KSI has ever done when it comes to

1271
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 1: promoing his fight, potentially or any other I'm sorry. This

1272
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: is where Tate's strong suit is and not necessarily where

1273
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: ksiz is mandatory.

1274
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 3: So I strongly recommend you train. You may be younger

1275
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,680
Speaker 3: than I am, you may be more active, you may

1276
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 3: be bigger, but everybody has a plan until they're punched

1277
00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:05,640
Speaker 3: in the face. December twentieth, Misfits our largest show ever

1278
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 3: produced here in Dubai, and I will be headlining myself.

1279
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 1: Okay, so there it is The Fight before Christmas. Really

1280
00:54:21,880 --> 00:54:25,640
Speaker 1: nice poster by the way. Okay, Misfits, Misfits Mania, the

1281
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: Fight before Christmas, headlined by Andrew Tate Chase to More,

1282
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,719
Speaker 1: December twentieth in Dubai. All right, so we kind of

1283
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,040
Speaker 1: knew that part, that part, you know, we had done

1284
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: a video on a couple of weeks ago, knowing that

1285
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:37,200
Speaker 1: that was.

1286
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,239
Speaker 2: Coming down the line. I did not expect this.

1287
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 1: Part this again, I think storyline version where Andrew Tate

1288
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 1: performs a hostile takeover of Misfits. That's a nice wrinkle again,

1289
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: Andrew Tate very controversial at A lot of people are gonna,

1290
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: you know, walk on eggshells when it comes to this

1291
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:55,759
Speaker 1: one because they just genuinely don't know what to think

1292
00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: about Andrew Tate. Now, this is just part of the

1293
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: storyline going on here, right because right after this went down,

1294
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: I saw what I'm about to show you guys now

1295
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: on Twitter. You see Andrew Tate here Misfits CEO, Combat

1296
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:08,280
Speaker 1: Executive Officer.

1297
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 2: I like that, so.

1298
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: KSI as soon as this was tweeted, put out these one, two, three, four,

1299
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 1: five tweets, and when I tell you, I got flashbacks,

1300
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,600
Speaker 1: and not in a good way. I was seeing demons

1301
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 1: when I saw this Twitter timeline light up with KSI tweets.

1302
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: It took me all the way back to my situation

1303
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 1: with KSI. I'm just lucky this time I wasn't the

1304
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: one on the other side of the gun, all right,

1305
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 1: KSI was taking shots.

1306
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:34,560
Speaker 2: First, he said, lol to this Misfits boxing thing.

1307
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,919
Speaker 1: Then he said, this year people are trying to test

1308
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: me for real, what the actual what is going on?

1309
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen in my life.

1310
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: Let's make Andrew Tait, the CEO of Misfits, are you serious?

1311
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: Then he comes up with you know, legit canby asked?

1312
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: Then you know f mams. Then he says, this one

1313
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 1: bro has been focused on Misfits rather than managing me,

1314
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:56,120
Speaker 1: and you decide to do this shit. This is interesting

1315
00:55:56,520 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: because do I think KSI is playing into it?

1316
00:55:58,520 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 2: Yes, a little bit.

1317
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:02,839
Speaker 1: I think that this entire like f MAMS, this year

1318
00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:04,359
Speaker 1: people are testing me, what's going on?

1319
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 2: Dumbest thing I've ever seen.

1320
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:07,480
Speaker 1: I think those are a little bit of like okay,

1321
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: like again, because I believe this is more of a

1322
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: way to take something off KSIs play I think this

1323
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,400
Speaker 1: is Casi going you know what, what I'm bringing to

1324
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: Misfits right now isn't necessarily as valuable as what I

1325
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: can do in other places. But I still want this

1326
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 1: thing to grow. I still want it to be a

1327
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 1: big thing.

1328
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 2: How do I do that?

1329
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,800
Speaker 1: Well, I'm going to take a back seat, ma'ams. You

1330
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: go full on creative. You do something with this that

1331
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: doesn't have to involve me, and I will you know,

1332
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: I'll be over here whatever when you need me.

1333
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,360
Speaker 2: I'll be here. That's what I think is happening. But

1334
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 2: when I when I see this one right here.

1335
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,320
Speaker 1: Bro has been focused on Misfits rather than managing me,

1336
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 1: and you decide to do this, I kind of believe

1337
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 1: this is a little bit of a shot.

1338
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 2: A little bit because Mams took a little bit of

1339
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 2: a shot.

1340
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 1: I think they talked about this behind the scenes, But

1341
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 1: I think this is a little bit of a shot

1342
00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: because Casi has mentioned, you know, he hasn't been able

1343
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 1: to do music recently that was out of.

1344
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 2: His control, something like that.

1345
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: And then you know, obviously he can't fight right now

1346
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: and he's just doing videos. He's clearly frustrated about something.

1347
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 2: I don't know what it is.

1348
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a position he's in, if

1349
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:07,479
Speaker 1: it's waiting whatever he needs to be doing. But he's

1350
00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:10,759
Speaker 1: clearly hinted at and you know, we'll see if we

1351
00:57:10,800 --> 00:57:12,759
Speaker 1: can find the tweets. He's clearly hinted that he's been

1352
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: frustrated this year, that this year has not gone well

1353
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: for him, that he can't seem to, you know, get

1354
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: it right this year, but next year is going to

1355
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,960
Speaker 1: be as you So there's something going on that I

1356
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:23,600
Speaker 1: don't know if this is about, if it's you know,

1357
00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: using that to build this big storyline. I have a

1358
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,720
Speaker 1: feeling that everybody's kind of in on this and they're

1359
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: all playing nice behind the scenes, but maybe not really in.

1360
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 2: Front of the crowd because we're trying to build a

1361
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 2: storyline here.

1362
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:36,200
Speaker 1: But that storyline I think again, I could be wrong

1363
00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: if KSI does and I'm saying right now, if I'm

1364
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,000
Speaker 1: putting percentages out there, I think twenty percent chance KSI

1365
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:44,520
Speaker 1: ever fights again, twenty to thirty based on the fact

1366
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,000
Speaker 1: that he's not got the hand surgery, based on the

1367
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,200
Speaker 1: fact that he's not really pressing to get the hand surgery,

1368
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: based on this kind of move which I think is

1369
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: more window dressing to kind of oust KSI from being

1370
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: the face of the company and then having someone step

1371
00:57:57,240 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: in there. I don't think you'll box again unless he

1372
00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 1: gets it, you know, he gets the hand surgery and

1373
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: starts to feel better and and it works out.

1374
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 2: But there's so many factors. But if he was, they're

1375
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 2: leaving the door.

1376
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 1: Open for this potential old KSI CEO taking back his company.

1377
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,360
Speaker 1: They're leaving the door open for that. I think. Now,

1378
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 1: let's take a look at some of these interview clips

1379
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: from Andrew T talking about the entire situation.

1380
00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 2: So let's let's let's hear this.

1381
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 13: Why you just miss his bucks thing?

1382
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 3: Well, cass Ie tweeted something that annoyed me about three

1383
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 3: years ago. So long story short, I took his company

1384
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:32,960
Speaker 3: from him, and considering I'm the largest name on the planet.

1385
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:34,920
Speaker 3: If I'm going to fight on an organization, why not

1386
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 3: fight in an organization I own a percentage of? It

1387
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 3: makes a lot of business sense. I also intend on.

1388
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 1: Does he actually okay, I still think it's to work,

1389
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: But did they actually give him a percentage of the company?

1390
00:58:45,440 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 2: Did they really do it?

1391
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: I would have been shocked had he not said that specifically,

1392
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: but I don't know. Andrew cut a promo like it

1393
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,760
Speaker 1: was nothing, so he could be a fantastic worker. There's

1394
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: no way they gave him an actual percentage of the

1395
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:01,280
Speaker 1: company though, right I'm maybe I don't know anymore. I

1396
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: genuinely have no idea. The only thing I can remember

1397
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: from Kasi and Andrew Tate three years ago obviously the

1398
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: sexual assault allegations that rotate.

1399
00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:09,360
Speaker 2: I think it's maybe still going through.

1400
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: I don't even actually know where those cases are or

1401
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: what the details are there, but I want to say

1402
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:16,680
Speaker 1: that Tate got banned, or maybe he got arrested at

1403
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:18,400
Speaker 1: that point and he was in prison, or he was

1404
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: going to prison, and KSI had tweeted something like karma

1405
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,640
Speaker 1: or like I don't remember, it was something around that,

1406
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure, or like, you know, Tate getting ratioed

1407
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: by Greta Thumberg. I'm not exactly sure, but it was

1408
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: something super personal at Tait at the time, and maybe

1409
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,640
Speaker 1: that's why he's held this grudge again.

1410
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 2: It could be storyline.

1411
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 1: It probably is, but I'm trying to just think back

1412
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: of what he would even be talking about.

1413
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of fantastic names on Misfits.

1414
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,080
Speaker 3: There's a lot of people who are already doing fantastically well,

1415
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 3: and they can do even better. I think we can

1416
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 3: become even bigger as an ORG. My intention is to

1417
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 3: make the ORG a lot bigger than it is and

1418
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 3: make sure everybody gets paid even more money.

1419
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 7: So why not.

1420
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm approaching this as a businessman. I'm approaching

1421
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 3: this as a fighter. I see the potential in the

1422
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 3: future of this. I think that, you know, celebrities fighting

1423
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 3: or influencers fighting just seems to keep growing. So Misfits

1424
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:07,800
Speaker 3: have already got a fantastic platform. They're already in a

1425
01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 3: great place, and I think with my help, we can

1426
01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:10,479
Speaker 3: take it to the next level.

1427
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 2: I'm very interested.

1428
01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: Again, he's talking like he legitimately wants to help out

1429
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:15,800
Speaker 1: behind the scenes as well.

1430
01:00:16,120 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 2: I'm so interested. I have to know, Like, I have

1431
01:00:18,320 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 2: to know if this is real. I don't know. If

1432
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 2: I gotta interview Maams, if I gotta interview Andrew fucking.

1433
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 1: Tate, I don't know, but I have to know how

1434
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,640
Speaker 1: legit is this is he actually a part of Misfits, Guys,

1435
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: I might have to go and interview KSI I know

1436
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:31,960
Speaker 1: this is like it's gonna seem like me trying to

1437
01:00:32,040 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: like whatever.

1438
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 2: But I think I need to know what is this?

1439
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 2: Is this real?

1440
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,320
Speaker 1: I want to sit down with all three of them

1441
01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: and figure this out, maybe not at the same time,

1442
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: but all three in separate interviews.

1443
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 2: You guys, let me know if you'd want to see

1444
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,160
Speaker 2: that is this? How is this? How?

1445
01:00:44,240 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: Kasai and I finally wap it up because I genuinely

1446
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: don't know what's happening. Andrew is talking like he is

1447
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: legitimately the CEO. My head wants to me to go,

1448
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: no ways, you're getting worked.

1449
01:00:54,680 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 2: Don't fall for this.

1450
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: But then again, he's talking about like the stuff he

1451
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: actually wants to do behind the scenes here, So odd.

1452
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,720
Speaker 12: Let's talk about this then you fight December twentieth. But

1453
01:01:03,840 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 12: surely it's not just a one time thing, right, Surely

1454
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 12: you've got a planning of your mind that you want

1455
01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 12: to have.

1456
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,120
Speaker 13: Free for five fights. What's on the old mindset here?

1457
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 3: How many Well, there's a lot of people who need

1458
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:15,880
Speaker 3: punching in the face. And this is the rule we

1459
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 3: currently live in, you know, And I know there's a

1460
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 3: long long list of people, and no matter how well

1461
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 3: I perform on the night, there's gonna be people with

1462
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 3: an opinion who said, ah, you know, Chase is an

1463
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 3: experiencing off, or Andrew didn't look that good, or he

1464
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 3: looked sloppy or whatever. There's always gonna be somebody with

1465
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 3: something to say. There's a lot of people who've been

1466
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:35,680
Speaker 3: saying my name already, and I'm sure they're gonna pop

1467
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,120
Speaker 3: up trying to catch a pay day because I'm the

1468
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 3: biggest pay day in sports entertainment today. There's no doubt

1469
01:01:39,560 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 3: about that. Darren Till's tried to already catch a.

1470
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 7: Pay day off my name.

1471
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 3: But you know, it's a It's a beautiful world, and

1472
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 3: there's plenty of targets. There's plenty of people who genuinely

1473
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 3: deserve to deserve to feel damaged.

1474
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:52,520
Speaker 13: And who are these targets? You can mention?

1475
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 3: I'm capable of dishing out damage. God has blessed me

1476
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 3: with the capability to hurt other people, and a lot

1477
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 3: of people deserve to be hurt. So we're gonna see

1478
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 3: what happens after the twentieth. We're gonna see what date

1479
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,960
Speaker 3: and what person deserves to feel the wrath of Andrew Tate.

1480
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:07,480
Speaker 3: And if I have to hurt somebody, I'll hurt somebody

1481
01:02:07,480 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 3: because I'm a professional.

1482
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 7: That's what I'm paid to do.

1483
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 1: Okay, So the only name mentioned there is dare Until.

1484
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,280
Speaker 1: But I have a feeling I just I predict these things.

1485
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,840
Speaker 1: I think that depending on what happens with not only

1486
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,439
Speaker 1: Tate on December twentieth, we have Jake, Paul Gervonte, Tank

1487
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:26,160
Speaker 1: Davis in three weeks now maybe less.

1488
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:25,880
Speaker 12: Uh.

1489
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 1: Something just tells me that in twenty twenty six there's

1490
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 1: gonna be opportunities for Jake.

1491
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:32,960
Speaker 2: To move around and do what he wants.

1492
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 1: Obviously, Tate and Jake were years ago supposed to face

1493
01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:38,080
Speaker 1: off and have a little brew haha.

1494
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:38,960
Speaker 2: Right, do you guys.

1495
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,000
Speaker 1: Remember and Dubai. I was there when they faced off.

1496
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 1: It was for Deggie and Floyd's cart.

1497
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 2: It was wild.

1498
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,640
Speaker 1: There's something more to this than just Chase dea Moore.

1499
01:02:45,720 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: You have to know that there's something Chase de Moore

1500
01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: than this behind the scenes planned for Tate. And again,

1501
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:53,400
Speaker 1: you have to get through the first one, and Chase

1502
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,920
Speaker 1: has fair play to him gotten better over.

1503
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 2: Time, but there does seem to be a little bit

1504
01:02:58,560 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 2: more behind you.

1505
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: Here's Andrew Tate and his brother Tristan Tate on potentially

1506
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:02,640
Speaker 1: tag team boxing.

1507
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 12: At this Would you guys ever consider doing a tag team?

1508
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,720
Speaker 12: Is that something you would ever be tempted to? To Brothers,

1509
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 12: it would be very historic, it'd be historic.

1510
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 7: Yeah, we're open to the idea. Why not?

1511
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 13: Are you opened to that, Tristan?

1512
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 2: It would be very interesting to do.

1513
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 3: I don't think tag team works in real sports though,

1514
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 3: sure in WWE it works, But I don't think in

1515
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 3: a real fight sport there would be any system where

1516
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:24,200
Speaker 3: a tag team would be.

1517
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,280
Speaker 13: Feed missus boxing does tag team boxing?

1518
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 3: Does it really work?

1519
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 2: Yes?

1520
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,040
Speaker 3: Well, you're the CEO, Andrew, you.

1521
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 13: Tell me, would you want to make that happen?

1522
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:33,480
Speaker 1: Runn I'm the CEO.

1523
01:03:33,600 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 4: Maybe, yeah, let's do it.

1524
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 3: Let's let's find the right opponents after December twentieth.

1525
01:03:37,160 --> 01:03:38,920
Speaker 7: That's my number one focus. When that's not I'm open

1526
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:39,360
Speaker 7: to anything.

1527
01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 12: The Pool brothers, Logan Pool and Jake Pool versus Andrew

1528
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:43,400
Speaker 12: Tate and Tristan Tate.

1529
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:48,439
Speaker 3: You know, Logan's actually uh sorry, Jake's actually a friend

1530
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 3: of mine. I've got to know him very very well.

1531
01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 3: I'm not afraid of the Paul Brothers at all. And

1532
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:54,640
Speaker 3: you know, if it came down to Andrew Tate and

1533
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 3: Tristan Tate versus Jake Paul and Logan pol The Tates

1534
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,120
Speaker 3: win every single time in every single way.

1535
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know about that, but I

1536
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: tell you I would watch it. I would absolutely watch it.

1537
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 1: That'd be some pretty entertaining stuff. But okay, let's talk

1538
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: about it this way. What do I think about this

1539
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 1: entire thing? Number One, I do think this is storyline.

1540
01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,840
Speaker 1: I think this is Mams trying to inject life into

1541
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: Misfits boxing. I think it's a very risky play based

1542
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 1: on how the audience reacts to Andrew Tait, who we

1543
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 1: know is very controversial, who we know has a lot

1544
01:04:26,320 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 1: of allegations. We know is someone that everyone is going

1545
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: to have a reaction to, good or bad. And that

1546
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 1: is what you're hoping for, that this is going to

1547
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 1: cause a wavelength, the reaction, the sonic boom through the Internet.

1548
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,920
Speaker 1: And I think it will, right, especially if Andrew Tate wins.

1549
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:40,960
Speaker 1: He still has to win, right, He's gonna do the promo.

1550
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 1: He's talking like he's actually part of this, like he

1551
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:44,720
Speaker 1: actually has a stake in Misfits.

1552
01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 2: I want to get to the bottom of that. That's

1553
01:04:46,240 --> 01:04:48,480
Speaker 2: what I want to know more about not the whole CEO.

1554
01:04:48,560 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 1: Like, yes, that's a fun storyline, and I'm all in

1555
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:51,720
Speaker 1: with the story.

1556
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 2: I'm ready to see where they take it.

1557
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I want to watch that as a fan,

1558
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: but I want to know for real, like what is

1559
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 1: the play here? I want to interview KSI. I want

1560
01:04:59,040 --> 01:05:01,720
Speaker 1: to interview MAM's and and see what is really going

1561
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: on here. But on that note, you still need to

1562
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:06,520
Speaker 1: go out and win for this whole experiment to work

1563
01:05:06,560 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 1: and not blow up in your face.

1564
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 2: Tate has to win versus Chase. The more who I listen.

1565
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: I know Chase hasn't been fighting long and he's not

1566
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 1: necessarily the most technical, but he's a big dude, He's strong, powerful.

1567
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 1: He touched you with the right hand, it's gonna hurt you, right,

1568
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 1: So you still have to win the fight. But oh man,

1569
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:24,400
Speaker 1: this is gonna be controversial. This is gonna be interesting

1570
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:26,919
Speaker 1: to see the reaction. And I'm gonna start right here

1571
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:29,680
Speaker 1: with you guys, what do you think of this? Because

1572
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 1: I'm still trying to wrap my head around it. Not

1573
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 1: Tate fighting, but this storyline of Tate coming into the

1574
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 1: company KSI going off on Twitter, I think again, that's

1575
01:05:38,040 --> 01:05:40,600
Speaker 1: more storyline, but there might be some real feelings behind it,

1576
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: just like MAM's with the dripped out cowboy gear with

1577
01:05:43,360 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: the one shots KSI's way again. Does this mean they're

1578
01:05:45,560 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 1: gonna try to have Ksi sit out come back for

1579
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 1: a big time fight in the future. Are they gonna

1580
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,720
Speaker 1: set Andrew up for a big time fight potentially if

1581
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: he's going to get past Chase to more against people

1582
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 1: from outside of the company. I wonder what does this

1583
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:59,960
Speaker 1: mean for Misfits relationship with The Zone because I know

1584
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 1: his Zone has a lot of influence as to who

1585
01:06:02,360 --> 01:06:06,080
Speaker 1: they let on their platform. And Andrew Tate again massively controversial,

1586
01:06:06,120 --> 01:06:07,800
Speaker 1: has been banned off a lot of platforms. Will he

1587
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:10,800
Speaker 1: be allowed to be on this? Is this Misfits going

1588
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,440
Speaker 1: in a different I don't know. I'm just wondering how

1589
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: long is left on that deal now? I think it

1590
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 1: was a five year deal or we we're still two

1591
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 1: years left in it, so I don't know. But that's

1592
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 1: another thing to consider, like how where is this gonna air?

1593
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 1: I didn't see a the Zone logo anywhere in this trailer,

1594
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 1: which I'm not saying that that means anything, but does it?

1595
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:28,920
Speaker 2: I don't know. You guys. Let me know though as

1596
01:06:28,960 --> 01:06:30,480
Speaker 2: well down below, what do you think of this?

1597
01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: Andrews a is coming to Misfits, He's taken over by Storm.

1598
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:37,360
Speaker 2: The new CEO KSIs pissed.

1599
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: He's gone apparently allegedly and it's probably more storyline than

1600
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,840
Speaker 1: it is real. But what's really going on? That's what

1601
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: I want to know. What is really going on behind

1602
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 1: the scenes. I need to get to the bottom of

1603
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:49,360
Speaker 1: this thing, and I think I'm gonna try to do it.

1604
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:51,160
Speaker 1: You guys, let me know what you think. What happens

1605
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,080
Speaker 1: on December twentieth. Who else is on the car? Don't

1606
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 1: have those answers yet, but I know this is gonna

1607
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 1: be interesting as far as how you guys react and

1608
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 1: what the next steps are.

1609
01:06:59,280 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 2: I guess.

1610
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 1: Now welcome back to the Way kind of represented by

1611
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 1: The Ring magazine, and today we have breaking news. Jake,

1612
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:10,640
Speaker 1: Paul Jervonte, Tang Davis. The fight is in jeopardy and

1613
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:12,959
Speaker 1: it's for a reason that I think you all could

1614
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: believe but maybe can't believe, is happening again. This fight

1615
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: is only two and a half weeks from going on.

1616
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:21,960
Speaker 1: November fourteenth is the date we are supposed to think

1617
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 1: that Jake Paul and Dravonta Davis are going to be

1618
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:24,960
Speaker 1: fighting on Netflix.

1619
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 2: But ah, not so fast, my friend.

1620
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 1: There's another yes, I said, another domestic abuse allegation against

1621
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:38,560
Speaker 1: Servante Davis, and that may either destroy postpone change the

1622
01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: entire event. This is happening in real time, so we

1623
01:07:40,760 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 1: have to talk about it. What is going on with

1624
01:07:43,560 --> 01:07:45,560
Speaker 1: the Jake Paul Dravonte Davis fight?

1625
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 2: The breakdown? Let's go number one.

1626
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: First off, I just want to say I was starting

1627
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 1: to get more into this fight as we got closer

1628
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:57,000
Speaker 1: to it. I've seen videos of Jake Paul training with

1629
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 1: the likes of Ray Fod, Montana, Love Schakor Stephens and

1630
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 1: others in his camp.

1631
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 2: I saw a picture, no video.

1632
01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 1: I would love to see the video of Jake Paul

1633
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 1: sparring Chaquor Stevenson. I want to know what's going on

1634
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 1: down there in Puerto Rico. I've told you guys this

1635
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:14,560
Speaker 1: many times. Jake takes these fights very very seriously, and

1636
01:08:14,600 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 1: I just thought, Okay, this is gonna get a little

1637
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 1: more interesting than I previously thought. I thought it would

1638
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:20,679
Speaker 1: be a bit of a mismatch, a bit of a

1639
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: boxing experience to Jervonte Davis, Jake bringing the size and power,

1640
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 1: and we're gonna get one of these stalemates where no

1641
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 1: one wants to take a real risk and both guys

1642
01:08:28,360 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 1: are gonna get paid. Turns out no guy may get paid,

1643
01:08:31,680 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 1: or Javonte Davis might be kicked off the card because

1644
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 1: we have a new not champion, a new domestic violence.

1645
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 2: Abuse allegation against Javonte Davis.

1646
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:44,720
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of allegations against Tank and some

1647
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 1: of those have been dropped that others have not really

1648
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:49,759
Speaker 1: been pursued, and you don't really know what's what behind

1649
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:50,559
Speaker 1: the scenes with people.

1650
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 2: But when things like this happen over and over.

1651
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:54,839
Speaker 1: I think this is his fourth or maybe fifth allegation

1652
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:56,960
Speaker 1: of domestic abuse, you kind of start to have to

1653
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:00,240
Speaker 1: look at the person that's being accused of such, go

1654
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,000
Speaker 1: why do you keep ending up in these situations? And

1655
01:09:03,040 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: the way it's described, We've even seen Tank do some

1656
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: of the things already on camera. But let's get into

1657
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 1: this thing and then we'll just go right into the

1658
01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:12,080
Speaker 1: report from Chris Mannix.

1659
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:13,879
Speaker 2: Here shout Mannix.

1660
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 1: Obviously, you guys know him as a commentator with his

1661
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 1: own covers boxing, covers basketball as well for SI Chris

1662
01:09:21,080 --> 01:09:24,000
Speaker 1: Mannix on Twitter says Netflix and reps for Jake Paul

1663
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 1: have been exploring potential replacements for Shervonte Davis. Sources familiar

1664
01:09:28,280 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 1: with the situation told SI now Paul Davis, scheduled for

1665
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:35,799
Speaker 1: November fourteenth, is in limbo after new allegations of domestic

1666
01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:37,759
Speaker 1: violence against s Gervonte Davis.

1667
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 2: I was in the car. I didn't know if this

1668
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 2: was real, but I had seen a report and this

1669
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 2: came out, I think on October.

1670
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: It came out a couple days ago, but it was

1671
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: from October twenty seven, and there was a civil suit

1672
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 1: over domestic allegations just two weeks ahead of this fight.

1673
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 1: This is from Andreas Hale, our guy over at ESPN

1674
01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: dot com. He essentially wrote the article on it and

1675
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 1: went into details. So let's take a read. Geronte tank

1676
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: Davis has once again found himself in legal trouble just

1677
01:10:04,160 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 1: two weeks before his exhibition fight. And yes, it was

1678
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:08,559
Speaker 1: going to be an exhibition that it was billed as

1679
01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:11,360
Speaker 1: a exhibition with you know, a winner end loser.

1680
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 2: But let's be honest about it.

1681
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:16,600
Speaker 1: Two guys, massively different ways, massively different experience. It was

1682
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: gonna be an exhibition. On November fourteenth, a new civil

1683
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: lawsuit filed in Miami Dade County has put the WBA

1684
01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:26,639
Speaker 1: lightweight champion in hot water over another alleged domestic encident.

1685
01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:29,639
Speaker 1: I'm not going to cast dispersions about the differences between

1686
01:10:29,640 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 1: the civil and criminal here. I'm not sure why if

1687
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,719
Speaker 1: there was an actual domestic abuse case, why there aren't

1688
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,559
Speaker 1: being criminal charges filed. Maybe this is a better way

1689
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:40,040
Speaker 1: of going about it, but I don't really know the

1690
01:10:40,439 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: ins and outs of why you do one versus the other.

1691
01:10:42,200 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: I mean, a criminal charge would obviously be more severe

1692
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,800
Speaker 1: and would be you know, getting the actual criminal punishment

1693
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:51,679
Speaker 1: that Tank deserves for if the domestic abuse allegations are true.

1694
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:54,880
Speaker 1: I know there's been allegations and criminal allegations in the

1695
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:58,240
Speaker 1: past that haven't necessarily worked out or whatever have the

1696
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:00,680
Speaker 1: case is. But this one is a civil lawsuit, so

1697
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 1: not a criminal charge we're talking about here, but a

1698
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 1: civil lawsuit. And according to the lawsuit acquired by ESPN,

1699
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 1: Davis is accused by ex girlfriend Courtney Rozzell of battery,

1700
01:11:10,479 --> 01:11:16,719
Speaker 1: aggravated battery, false imprisonment, kidnapping, an intentional infliction of emotional distress.

1701
01:11:16,760 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 1: Now kidnapping, aggravated battery, false imprisonment. I'm pretty sure those

1702
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:24,000
Speaker 1: get into fellony charges should they have been criminal. But

1703
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 1: we're talking about a civil lawsuit here, which again I'm

1704
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 1: a little confused on why that part is happening. But

1705
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:31,160
Speaker 1: as we read here, this lawsuit comes two months after

1706
01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:34,439
Speaker 1: Davis's previous domestic violence case was dropped by an ex

1707
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 1: girlfriend and mother of two of the boxer's three children.

1708
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 1: So this is two months after another allegation was dropped,

1709
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,080
Speaker 1: so there wasn't any charge or anything there. But Tank

1710
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 1: seems to find himself in these situations, or you know,

1711
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,599
Speaker 1: be the perpetrator potentially in some of these situations, over.

1712
01:11:49,439 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 2: And over and over.

1713
01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 1: And as much as I love Tank as a boxer,

1714
01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 1: as much as I think he's one of the most

1715
01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:56,040
Speaker 1: talented boxers, one of the most skilled guys in the

1716
01:11:56,120 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 1: in the sport itself, he is a massive, massive screw up.

1717
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:04,360
Speaker 1: I mean unbelievably a massive screw up for the guy

1718
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,720
Speaker 1: with his amount of talent, with this amount of popularity

1719
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,519
Speaker 1: and eyeballs that drift to him in this sport, a

1720
01:12:09,640 --> 01:12:11,439
Speaker 1: true potential star in this sport.

1721
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 2: To have these types of issues over and over.

1722
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 1: When you talk about change in your life and not

1723
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 1: being a violent person anymore and not wanting to box

1724
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 1: and raise your kids and do this and again, I'm

1725
01:12:20,800 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 1: not even trying to do the personal stuff. But how

1726
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 1: do you keep finding yourselves in these situations? After an

1727
01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 1: allegation earlier this year and now another one. You know,

1728
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 1: if it was one or two, I could start to go, okay, well,

1729
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 1: some people are plotting on him whatever, you know, that

1730
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,920
Speaker 1: can happen, But this is just too much of a coincidence.

1731
01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 1: When things are happening over and over and over again,

1732
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 1: he is just a complete screw up. You get fifty

1733
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: million dollars on the line and potentially we're not even

1734
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 1: gonna see the fight now. I don't know what's gonna happen.

1735
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 1: No official reports on what's gonna go down with this fight.

1736
01:12:47,560 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 1: Is tanks on the card or not, we don't know.

1737
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:50,520
Speaker 1: But this is just unbelievable.

1738
01:12:50,520 --> 01:12:52,800
Speaker 2: Man. I never can understand when athletes do this stuff.

1739
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:53,320
Speaker 2: We continue.

1740
01:12:53,520 --> 01:12:56,240
Speaker 1: ESPN also confirmed with one of the woman's attorneys that

1741
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 1: a report was filed on Tuesday with the Miami Gardens

1742
01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 1: Police Department. Messages left with the department were not immediately returned.

1743
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,280
Speaker 1: To ESPN, So they have filed a report which would

1744
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 1: be you know, escalated to potentially if evidence was found

1745
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 1: by Miami Gardens Police Department, that would probably be elevated

1746
01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:17,720
Speaker 1: to potential investigation of the said aggravated battery, false imprisonment, kidnapping.

1747
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 1: So they've not only filed this civil suit, but they

1748
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 1: also are pursuing criminal investigation at least, and that's up

1749
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:27,479
Speaker 1: to the police department, So I guess we'll see there.

1750
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,759
Speaker 1: According to the complaint, now here's where it gets brutal.

1751
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 1: Here's where I look at this entire thing, because I've

1752
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:34,680
Speaker 1: read this lawsuit, or at least part of it to

1753
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:37,639
Speaker 1: know that it gets really really ugly here. And this

1754
01:13:37,680 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 1: is where I say that this isn't just a happenstance thing,

1755
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:44,240
Speaker 1: at least in my opinion, because we've seen some of

1756
01:13:44,280 --> 01:13:47,720
Speaker 1: the similar qualities that are being alleged in this lawsuit

1757
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,280
Speaker 1: that Tank has shown on camera before. I think that

1758
01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 1: a celebrity basketball game years ago. But let's read this.

1759
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 1: According to the complaint, Davis allegedly stormed into two SI's

1760
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 1: Miami Gentlemen's Club, where Roszell worked as a VIP cocktail

1761
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:02,200
Speaker 1: server in the early hours of Monday and attacked her

1762
01:14:02,240 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 1: in a back room of a club that did not

1763
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 1: have camera. She says Davis dragged her through a stairwell, kitchen,

1764
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 1: and the back exit before physically assaulting.

1765
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 2: Her in a parking garage.

1766
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 1: Now I don't even know if I can show this

1767
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 1: video on YouTube, but there is a video.

1768
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:18,640
Speaker 2: I don't remember the year, but a girl whoever.

1769
01:14:18,320 --> 01:14:20,360
Speaker 1: I think Jervonte was seeing at the time, was at

1770
01:14:20,400 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 1: a celebrity basketball game. He walks directly up to where

1771
01:14:23,000 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 1: she is sitting and snatches her up and drags her

1772
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:28,280
Speaker 1: out of this basketball gym in a similar way that's

1773
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 1: being described. He and usually when you have someone that

1774
01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 1: in this case is alleged or has committed a crime

1775
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 1: that continues to be put in that same position, they

1776
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 1: usually act the same way if they have not learned

1777
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:44,360
Speaker 1: from said mistake or gotten help for said issues, or

1778
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:46,640
Speaker 1: just that same person. Now, again, I'm not trying to

1779
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,080
Speaker 1: allege this or that I don't know the situation, but

1780
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:52,439
Speaker 1: that sounds a lot like what we've seen Jervonte do,

1781
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:54,719
Speaker 1: at least the dragging of someone out of a venue,

1782
01:14:54,720 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 1: a female out of a venue aggressively with physical intent

1783
01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 1: to harm we've seen that before. This is can't look

1784
01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 1: at this situation and go, yeah, she's probably lying. Yeah,

1785
01:15:03,040 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 1: you know, this is probably not what she's saying. It

1786
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:08,000
Speaker 1: is we've seen on camera something really similar. And this

1787
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 1: is not the first or second time he has been

1788
01:15:10,000 --> 01:15:11,360
Speaker 1: accused of domestic violence.

1789
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:14,160
Speaker 2: We've seen it one, two, three, four.

1790
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:15,760
Speaker 1: This would be the fifth time I think that we've

1791
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 1: seen this for Geronte Davis. Does that sound like a

1792
01:15:18,080 --> 01:15:20,479
Speaker 1: coincidence to anybody? Rosell said she was in a five

1793
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:23,280
Speaker 1: month relationship with Davis prior to the incident, and cited

1794
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:26,760
Speaker 1: multiple instances of domestic abuse, violence, and threats made by

1795
01:15:26,800 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 1: the fighter concerning her safety and well being.

1796
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:31,439
Speaker 2: Rossell said in the lawsuit.

1797
01:15:31,000 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 1: That there were quote at least four previous incidents in

1798
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:38,400
Speaker 1: which Davis quote physically assaulted and choked her. On two occasions,

1799
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:40,640
Speaker 1: she said, Davis threatened to kill her. I mean, this

1800
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:44,080
Speaker 1: is just awful again allegations. I can't prove any of

1801
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 1: this to be true, but if it is, this is

1802
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 1: awful behavior. This is complete and utter disregard for the

1803
01:15:50,960 --> 01:15:55,599
Speaker 1: position he's in for another human's life, for the position

1804
01:15:55,800 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 1: of just any relationship, any family, nothing, no thought about it,

1805
01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:03,200
Speaker 1: just a bad, awful person and someone that if this

1806
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,320
Speaker 1: is true and all these things are true, should be

1807
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,479
Speaker 1: locked up. You can't have people committing domestic violence over

1808
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,639
Speaker 1: and over and over and over and act like things

1809
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:12,439
Speaker 1: are going to change because they're a star actor.

1810
01:16:12,479 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 2: Can't have But like, what lesson does that teach it

1811
01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 2: for people that are going to say, well, how do.

1812
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 1: You potentially postpone or want to change an event over

1813
01:16:19,880 --> 01:16:22,680
Speaker 1: a civil lawsuit? This is why when you open the

1814
01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:25,280
Speaker 1: civil lawsuit, when you look at companies like a Netflix

1815
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 1: or an MVP, or partners or brands or sponsors that

1816
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 1: want to be involved with this type of event, do

1817
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 1: you think they're going to be okay with a guy

1818
01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:36,599
Speaker 1: that repeatedly not in the past, because Mike Dyson had

1819
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,960
Speaker 1: allegations and ended up being charged for very severe I mean,

1820
01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 1: we'll just say it was rape back in his day

1821
01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:45,120
Speaker 1: and he went to prison for this recent When you're

1822
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 1: doing something like that or alleged to be doing something

1823
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 1: like that, and you have a history of those allegations

1824
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 1: and we have a history of seeing the physical just

1825
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:53,639
Speaker 1: call it what it is, battery that you can put

1826
01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:55,680
Speaker 1: on females outside of the ring. I don't think that's

1827
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:57,800
Speaker 1: something that Netflix is wanting to be a part of

1828
01:16:57,880 --> 01:16:59,880
Speaker 1: at that point. And I think that even Jake, who

1829
01:16:59,920 --> 01:17:01,320
Speaker 1: is and not even really clim it, but being like

1830
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:04,240
Speaker 1: e're domestic abuser on stage too, Gravonte Davis like talking

1831
01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 1: about putting his hands on women. I don't know if

1832
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:08,200
Speaker 1: Jake wants to be involved with somebody like that. Yes,

1833
01:17:08,720 --> 01:17:11,640
Speaker 1: Tank is a massive star in boxing for sure. And

1834
01:17:11,640 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 1: again I can't sit here and act like this as

1835
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: fact because I don't know. And I can't sit here

1836
01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 1: and go, oh, well, you know, lock him away and

1837
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:18,679
Speaker 1: throw away the key. I can't do that either because

1838
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. But if this turns out to be true,

1839
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:23,080
Speaker 1: then will it have been a great look for Netflix

1840
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:24,360
Speaker 1: to have it? Would it have been a great look

1841
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:26,200
Speaker 1: for Jake to have? Do they believe he would even

1842
01:17:26,200 --> 01:17:28,680
Speaker 1: make it to the fight? Our criminal charges coming like,

1843
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:31,479
Speaker 1: that's another thing we're not talking about. Are criminal charges

1844
01:17:31,960 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 1: about to be levied, which is why they're starting to

1845
01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:38,680
Speaker 1: look for potential replacements. We have documented, apparently evidence or

1846
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 1: at least testimony from Rozell here the first of the incidents,

1847
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:44,599
Speaker 1: talking about the two occasions where she alleged Davis said

1848
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:45,519
Speaker 1: he was going to kill her.

1849
01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:46,840
Speaker 2: I guess here's one.

1850
01:17:46,760 --> 01:17:49,200
Speaker 1: Of the first incidents that took place on September second,

1851
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:53,000
Speaker 1: when Davis allegedly threatened to kill Rozell for not responding

1852
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 1: to his calls and text messages. A second incident took

1853
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:57,880
Speaker 1: place on September twenty third this year, and she says

1854
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 1: Davis accused her of infidelity and texted I'll kill you.

1855
01:18:00,840 --> 01:18:04,720
Speaker 1: Later that day, Davis allegedly physically assaulted Rozell, choking her

1856
01:18:04,840 --> 01:18:08,320
Speaker 1: in public at Plaia Miami, a restaurant in the Lincoln

1857
01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 1: Road shopping district. If someone is willing to physically abuse

1858
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 1: another person in public again alleged, I don't know. I

1859
01:18:15,439 --> 01:18:17,360
Speaker 1: don't know if cameras got this, I don't know. We've

1860
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 1: seen him do it before in public around people. What

1861
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 1: in God's name is going on when people can't when

1862
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:27,400
Speaker 1: there is no thread of someone stopping you, calling the police, eyewitness,

1863
01:18:27,439 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 1: anything else. If Davonte is that comfortable allegedly potentially assaulting

1864
01:18:32,320 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 1: this female and others in public, what's happening when they're

1865
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 1: behind the closed door? And to me again, when I

1866
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 1: read some of these statements, it makes it more plausible

1867
01:18:40,280 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 1: that the things that are being said about him that

1868
01:18:42,360 --> 01:18:46,280
Speaker 1: happen in public, and maybe not public, are actually.

1869
01:18:45,920 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 2: Happened because he's so brazen about it, we continue.

1870
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:50,879
Speaker 1: The suit says that Davis sent Rossall a text message

1871
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:54,320
Speaker 1: after this week's incident, stating quote, I'm on my way

1872
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:57,080
Speaker 1: to the house, which Rozell interpreted as the boxer heading

1873
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,439
Speaker 1: to her home to continue assaulting her. Lawsuit says that

1874
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:02,759
Speaker 1: Rosal is currently suffering from PTSD anxiety and extreme fear,

1875
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:04,800
Speaker 1: while saying that she is living with others because she

1876
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:08,160
Speaker 1: no longer feels safe alone and is actively seeking therapeutic

1877
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 1: treatment to address the severe emotional and physical harm caused

1878
01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:16,320
Speaker 1: by Davis. The attorneys are demanding compensatory and punitive damages along.

1879
01:19:16,040 --> 01:19:18,000
Speaker 2: With a request for jury trial.

1880
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,200
Speaker 1: Davis has had numerous run ins with the law over

1881
01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:22,920
Speaker 1: the years, including chargers related to domestic violence, fleeing the

1882
01:19:22,920 --> 01:19:25,040
Speaker 1: scene of a car accident. Several of his cases have

1883
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 1: been dropped, but he was sentenced to a nine to

1884
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 1: day house arrest in three years probation for a twenty

1885
01:19:29,920 --> 01:19:32,680
Speaker 1: twenty three hit and run case in Baltimore. ESPN reach

1886
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 1: out to representatives for Davis have yet to respond. ESPN

1887
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,439
Speaker 1: also reached out to representative for Jake Paul's Most Viable

1888
01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:40,679
Speaker 1: Promotions to see if this lawsuit woul affect the status

1889
01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:43,880
Speaker 1: of Paul Davis at the Cassea Center in Miami on

1890
01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:46,720
Speaker 1: November fourteenth. Most Viable Promotions did not respond to the

1891
01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:49,960
Speaker 1: request for comments. So that is where we leave that

1892
01:19:50,040 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 1: part of the store. Now, if you're asking questions on

1893
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:56,439
Speaker 1: why would they cancel this event purely based off an allegation,

1894
01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 1: I kind of already talked about it. If you're Netflix,

1895
01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 1: if you're some of the sponsors involved with this event,

1896
01:20:00,479 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 1: if your MVP and Nikisa and Jake, if this thing,

1897
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:06,280
Speaker 1: if you have more information about it, then we the

1898
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:08,040
Speaker 1: public do now. And I don't know if that's the

1899
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:10,240
Speaker 1: case or if they know that chargers potentially are coming.

1900
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 2: You have two weeks to make a decision.

1901
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:14,639
Speaker 1: We just learned in the last fight that Jake had

1902
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 1: against Julio Sayser Chives Junior, they arrested chiv As the

1903
01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:22,679
Speaker 1: day after Jake fought, meaning, had the LAPD or whoever

1904
01:20:22,840 --> 01:20:25,040
Speaker 1: ICE I think is actually who had gotten to him.

1905
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:29,639
Speaker 1: Had ICE agents found Julio Sayser Chives Junior a day earlier,

1906
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:32,280
Speaker 1: the fight would have been canceled, they deported him.

1907
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 2: They said they didn't know about it.

1908
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:36,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's the case, but if they

1909
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:38,400
Speaker 1: took Julio seser chib As away a day before the event,

1910
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:40,400
Speaker 1: would the event even happen? And MVP has had I

1911
01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 1: don't want to say had a history, but they had

1912
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 1: a misfortune. I will say Jake has adds a lot

1913
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:47,360
Speaker 1: of misfortunes around his events. Tommy Fury pulling out two

1914
01:20:47,360 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 1: weeks ahead of time, Tommy Fury canceling an entire event

1915
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:53,719
Speaker 1: set in New York, short notice Tyron Woodley, short notice

1916
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 1: other fights as well, short notice Mike Perry after the

1917
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 1: the Mike Tyson situation happened. So they've had to kind

1918
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,479
Speaker 1: of change gears on the run multiple times before, and

1919
01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:04,800
Speaker 1: this is maybe another instance of that. And it's one

1920
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:07,559
Speaker 1: of those questions that I think would probably be better answered,

1921
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 1: like do you want to keep the event on the

1922
01:21:09,200 --> 01:21:11,240
Speaker 1: date November fourteenth and you want to move it back?

1923
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 2: Do you want to wait and see.

1924
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 1: What happens with the legal process or do you want

1925
01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,599
Speaker 1: to seek out other opponents which looks like, again, according

1926
01:21:16,600 --> 01:21:18,519
Speaker 1: to Chris Mannix, that's what they want to do.

1927
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:20,320
Speaker 2: They're going to seek out other opponents.

1928
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:23,839
Speaker 1: Now, what that tells me is if they're looking already,

1929
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,960
Speaker 1: then they're moving past to Jervonte Davis fight. That's what

1930
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:28,759
Speaker 1: it tells me. And I don't know that that's the case.

1931
01:21:28,800 --> 01:21:30,680
Speaker 1: I don't have any sources, but there wouldn't be a

1932
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 1: need to look for other potential opponents if you were

1933
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,880
Speaker 1: confident that Davante was either going to make the walk,

1934
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 1: or that you were confident in the decision to keep

1935
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:41,479
Speaker 1: him in the main event, to keep him for this event,

1936
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:46,320
Speaker 1: and for the powers that be, Netflix, MVP sponsors, whoever,

1937
01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 1: that they would be confident still running this event if

1938
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:51,479
Speaker 1: he was on the The fact that they're already looking

1939
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 1: tells me the red button has been hit or you know,

1940
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 1: the hand is hovering over it. Right now, you get

1941
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 1: into the question of who is going to be a

1942
01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 1: replacement opponent for Jake right now? And the answers would

1943
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:04,040
Speaker 1: be in my mind on short notice if it were me,

1944
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:05,920
Speaker 1: and this would be a bitter pill of swallow. And

1945
01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 1: I don't know that Netflix would want to do this,

1946
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:09,000
Speaker 1: and I don't know really how that works. I would

1947
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:11,280
Speaker 1: postpone the event, I'd move it to January. I'd find

1948
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:13,920
Speaker 1: someone else to January February whatever. I'd find someone else

1949
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 1: in a quick turnaround time to give him eight weeks

1950
01:22:16,040 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 1: to train, twelve weeks to train, whatever. A Tommy Fury,

1951
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 1: by the way, would be my option if it were me. Again,

1952
01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 1: There's probably so much more going on behind the scenes

1953
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:26,120
Speaker 1: that I don't know, But if it were me, Tommy

1954
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 1: Fury would be the guy I'm calling, and I'm giving

1955
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 1: him eight to twelve weeks to get ready, and we're

1956
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,679
Speaker 1: running it right, and it's a massive expense and everyone's

1957
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:35,519
Speaker 1: gonna lose money and it's gonna be a problem. But

1958
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:37,759
Speaker 1: I don't know who you get in two weeks. Anthony

1959
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 1: Joshua is not fighting on Netflix. He is exclusive to

1960
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:43,000
Speaker 1: his own Francis in Ghanu. I really don't know. Someone

1961
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 1: mentioned Francis and Ganhu. I don't know how that would work.

1962
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Speaker 1: Carl Frotch could be an option. Carl Frotch would be,

1963
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Speaker 1: you know, a decent enough name for them to get

1964
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 1: for Netflix, have a bit of the UK behind it. Again,

1965
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:55,160
Speaker 1: you're talking about eight weeks now a little more than that,

1966
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Speaker 1: So how quickly could you turn that around?

1967
01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 2: I would have said Andrew.

1968
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:00,599
Speaker 1: Tate, but Andrew Tate looks like he's locked up December,

1969
01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:02,160
Speaker 1: So you can't really do that, and you wouldn't be

1970
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:02,559
Speaker 1: able to do.

1971
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 2: It in the US. That's a no go.

1972
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 1: You know, you could try to throw as much money

1973
01:23:07,200 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 1: as possible that a guy like Ksi and do that.

1974
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 1: I mean, people would go crazy for that. I don't

1975
01:23:11,080 --> 01:23:12,960
Speaker 1: think Ksi can fight right now though, because of the

1976
01:23:13,000 --> 01:23:15,720
Speaker 1: hand and he needs surgery. I mean, I'm running through

1977
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 1: the list here, guys, you know what I mean? Like,

1978
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:18,880
Speaker 1: who else is there? I can't come up with the

1979
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:21,760
Speaker 1: name worthy of Netflix available right now?

1980
01:23:21,880 --> 01:23:22,880
Speaker 2: Jorge Mazavi it all.

1981
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:27,679
Speaker 1: Maybe Innate Diaz rematch, Yeah, I can't think of anyone.

1982
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:28,720
Speaker 2: Who else is there right now?

1983
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 1: You built this whole thing around Davante and then the

1984
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 1: plan was to go into twenty twenty six and think

1985
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:37,519
Speaker 1: about Ksi or Anthony Joshua or you know wherever else

1986
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 1: you go from there.

1987
01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 2: But now this throws a massive branch.

1988
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 1: And by the way, this is twice now that Jervonte

1989
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 1: Davis has kind of been the reason for them not

1990
01:23:44,479 --> 01:23:45,200
Speaker 1: being able.

1991
01:23:45,000 --> 01:23:45,800
Speaker 2: To schedule this event.

1992
01:23:45,840 --> 01:23:49,320
Speaker 1: Because Jervonte goes out and has the Stinker against Lamont Roach.

1993
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:52,000
Speaker 2: Roach fought really well I thought won the fight. They

1994
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:54,120
Speaker 2: can't do that. They have to wait a little longer.

1995
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 1: Jake goes and fights Julio Seer Chavez, and now they're

1996
01:23:56,840 --> 01:23:59,760
Speaker 1: trying to do this. But man, I almost feel bad

1997
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,880
Speaker 1: for I do, because this isn't his fault. He's done

1998
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,160
Speaker 1: everything he should do for this, as he kind of

1999
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 1: always does, and the other side, once again.

2000
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:09,200
Speaker 2: Is a complete screw up.

2001
01:24:09,200 --> 01:24:10,840
Speaker 1: And by the way, I want to say this, people

2002
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 1: were talking about ticket sales, and while ticket sales, at

2003
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:15,679
Speaker 1: least from my perspective, I don't have the numbers, behind

2004
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:18,559
Speaker 1: the scenes, they don't look good. They do not look good.

2005
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 1: And that was another part of this. They moved the

2006
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:22,479
Speaker 1: fight from Georgia. Georgia didn't want any part of it.

2007
01:24:22,479 --> 01:24:25,719
Speaker 1: They're in Miami. Ticket sales didn't look great so far. Again,

2008
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 1: maybe you have a massive walk up fight week, but

2009
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:29,920
Speaker 1: I'd heard there was a lot left, and you know,

2010
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:31,639
Speaker 1: if you go on some of these resellers, that looks

2011
01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 1: like there's a lot of seats left. Do I think

2012
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:36,400
Speaker 1: that would be the reason that somehow this article would

2013
01:24:36,400 --> 01:24:38,680
Speaker 1: come out now and these talks would come out now,

2014
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:40,519
Speaker 1: I don't think so. It seems like again, not even

2015
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:42,719
Speaker 1: seems like the allegation is from the night of October

2016
01:24:42,760 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 1: twenty seven. This just happens to be awful timing. I

2017
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:47,280
Speaker 1: think it's a massive coincidence. I really do, And I

2018
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,720
Speaker 1: don't think ticket sales are like a driving factor in this.

2019
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:51,679
Speaker 1: They were bad, or at least from what I was seeing,

2020
01:24:51,680 --> 01:24:53,559
Speaker 1: they were bad, but I don't think they didn't have

2021
01:24:53,560 --> 01:24:55,720
Speaker 1: anything to do with this. They were probably hoping for

2022
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 1: and planning for a massive close during these last two

2023
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:01,080
Speaker 1: weeks and then the walk up fight nights to be better,

2024
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:02,880
Speaker 1: and it probably would have been. It probably would have

2025
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:05,240
Speaker 1: been better. I mean, they're two massive stars, so those

2026
01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:07,680
Speaker 1: ticket sales probably would have picked up and I think

2027
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:11,200
Speaker 1: would have done relatively well or pretty well into fight week.

2028
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 1: But the build for this has been very slow. It's

2029
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:16,400
Speaker 1: been very start stop. People don't know when the fight's been,

2030
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:18,719
Speaker 1: what place the fight's going to be in, they're doing

2031
01:25:18,760 --> 01:25:20,800
Speaker 1: different venues and all that, and then you have this,

2032
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:22,440
Speaker 1: which again I think is a coincidence.

2033
01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:24,080
Speaker 2: And it's all again.

2034
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 1: The allegations coming out when they happen is one thing,

2035
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:31,639
Speaker 1: but doing it again allegedly, if you're Gervonte Davis on

2036
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 1: the October twenty seven, doing it again, being put in

2037
01:25:35,400 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 1: this position and failing again. He is an unbelievably bad

2038
01:25:40,080 --> 01:25:42,800
Speaker 1: screw up as an individual. If all this is true,

2039
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:44,800
Speaker 1: and the more that things line up with the things

2040
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 1: that are being said about him and previous video altercations

2041
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:51,639
Speaker 1: that we have, and how dark and sadistic I'm going

2042
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:56,559
Speaker 1: to kill you, aggravated battery, kidnap it, false imprisonment, keeping

2043
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:58,040
Speaker 1: people held hostage.

2044
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:00,680
Speaker 2: This is a bad dude. I don't mean in the

2045
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:02,320
Speaker 2: sense of like he's the best fight or whatever. I

2046
01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 2: mean he's a bad person. If this is what's going down.

2047
01:26:04,439 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 1: And again, it's not just one allegation, it's not just

2048
01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 1: two allegations. This is five allegation, most of which sure

2049
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 1: have been dropped. But how many more are going to

2050
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 1: keep happening with the same pattern.

2051
01:26:13,920 --> 01:26:16,240
Speaker 2: Of behavior over and over.

2052
01:26:16,439 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 1: Before someone says enough is enough? And maybe that's what's

2053
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:21,040
Speaker 1: happening here. If that's what happens, By the way, that's

2054
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:23,599
Speaker 1: a hard decision to make because you're basically throwing away

2055
01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:26,600
Speaker 1: your event. But kudos to the honestly, kudos to Jake Nikisa,

2056
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:30,000
Speaker 1: Netflix whoever. If they find out that this stuff is true,

2057
01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:31,680
Speaker 1: if they have more information, than we do. And I'm

2058
01:26:31,720 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 1: not saying it is we find out it's all allegations

2059
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:36,920
Speaker 1: involves I've seen fighters fight while finding allegations fighting charges.

2060
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 1: I've seen that happen before athletes in other sports as well.

2061
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:41,120
Speaker 1: But if they find out this is true, they have

2062
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:43,880
Speaker 1: more information and they decide we can't allow this to

2063
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:46,280
Speaker 1: be on our platform. Kudos to them because that's the

2064
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:49,360
Speaker 1: right move. Again, it's that gray area between what's the

2065
01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:53,040
Speaker 1: allegation and what's the truth behind it. But that's where

2066
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 1: we're at right now. It's a civil suit as of

2067
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:57,879
Speaker 1: right now. Apparently the plaintiff or you know, the victim,

2068
01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:01,640
Speaker 1: is going to pursue criminal charges as well, But as

2069
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:04,040
Speaker 1: of right now, according to Chris mannis over at SI

2070
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:07,920
Speaker 1: because of the domestic abuse allegations from October twenty seventh,

2071
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:10,599
Speaker 1: just a couple of days ago. Gavonte Davis is now

2072
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:14,759
Speaker 1: being sued by his ex girlfriend for battery, aggravated battery,

2073
01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:19,439
Speaker 1: false imprisonment, kidnapping, and intentional infliction of emotional damage, and

2074
01:27:19,640 --> 01:27:23,639
Speaker 1: according to Chris mannis the event runners for Netflix Paul

2075
01:27:23,760 --> 01:27:27,439
Speaker 1: versus Davis are looking for potential replacements for this fight.

2076
01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:29,320
Speaker 1: They don't have answers yet, we don't even have any

2077
01:27:29,400 --> 01:27:31,840
Speaker 1: names yet, we have no idea what's happening yet.

2078
01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:34,879
Speaker 2: All we know is that this event is in serious jeopardy.

2079
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,479
Speaker 1: And I'm taking this super serious because when someone like

2080
01:27:37,520 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 1: Mannix writes it, he's not blowing smoke up your ass.

2081
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,559
Speaker 1: He is telling you the truth, so you better listen.

2082
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 1: I don't know what's gonna happen with this, but I

2083
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:44,719
Speaker 1: know what you guys.

2084
01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:46,800
Speaker 2: Are gonna say. Y'all probably want this thing canceled. I

2085
01:27:46,920 --> 01:27:49,120
Speaker 2: just feel like I feel like it's that sucks for

2086
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:49,560
Speaker 2: Jake Is.

2087
01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 1: As much as maybe people didn't want to see the fight,

2088
01:27:51,720 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 1: he did everything he was supposed to do.

2089
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 2: What do they do next? Can they find a replacement?

2090
01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:56,040
Speaker 2: Who would it be?

2091
01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:58,799
Speaker 1: I don't have those answers, and I have no idea

2092
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:01,680
Speaker 1: what happens, but I guess we'll find out