1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Welcome to the program. We're all fired up, 3 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: ready to go our one Dan and the Dan ns 4 00:00:10,280 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show. Front row, Marvin's there, Paulie back row, 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: or as I like to call it, demotion row. Seaton 6 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: is there with Fritzie row. What the heck is front row? 7 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 1: Is promotion row? Back row? Demotion? We already do it, 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: suck it back row. Then you jump in one minute 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: to the show called demotion ro on top of that, 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: I didn't social media did that? Is this rude? People 11 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: want to know if Seaton got demoted because he's been 12 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: put in the back row, Marvin got front row treatment here. 13 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: My mom is like, Patrick, what happened? Are you in trouble? No, 14 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 1: mom's what you mean? Or are you? Or am i yea? 15 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to the program. Eight seven seven three d P 16 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: show Email address DP at dan Patrick dot com, Twitter 17 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 1: handle at DP show. Seaton has not been demoted. He's 18 00:00:57,560 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 1: been elevated because only because the back row is actually elevating, 19 00:01:04,360 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 1: physically elevated a chair slightly higher than it was before. Yes, 20 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: it is. You're up on a little bit more of 21 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: a stage there with you and your best friend Fritzie. 22 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: But Marvin is in the front row with Paulie and 23 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: yours truly poll question, play of the day, stat of 24 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 1: the day, all to that forthcoming. Mike Florio is going 25 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 1: to join us, coming up here in a little bit, 26 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: and I want to ask him about this Sean McVay situation, 27 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: because Kevin O'Connell's the offensive coordinator for the Rams, at 28 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,399 Speaker 1: least he still is. He's supposed to be introduced as 29 00:01:32,440 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: the Vikings head coach on Thursday. There are reports that 30 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: the two agreed to a deal, but there they were 31 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,680 Speaker 1: waiting for the Super Bowl to come to an end 32 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: so he could officially take the job. I don't know 33 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: if there's any hold up. I don't know if there's 34 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: any chance that the Rams would go if Sean McVay 35 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: leaves and goes into the broadcast booth with the ESPN 36 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: that maybe you say to Kevin O'Connell, hey, wait hold 37 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: on before you take that job. But I want to 38 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: talk to Florio about this because, as I told you yesterday, 39 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: at this time had a great source on this saying 40 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: that those two people who are friends with Sean and 41 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 1: that there's mutual interest with Sean McVay an ESPN. He 42 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: said it could be a leverage play, and it could be. 43 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,079 Speaker 1: It's like Aaron Donald, is this a leverage play? Aaron 44 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: Donald might be the most underpaid player in the NFL 45 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: and we're ready to christen him the greatest defensive player 46 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: of all time? Is this a leverage play? Or would 47 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,399 Speaker 1: he walk away at age thirty which Sean McVay walk 48 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: away at age thirty five. So we'll talk to Mike 49 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: Florio about that coming up in a little bit Seaton 50 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: Poll question today. We've got a couple options for you, Okay, 51 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:44,359 Speaker 1: I'll start with Paul's here. If you were Amazon and 52 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:48,399 Speaker 1: could only hire one, you would hire Troy Aikman, Al Michaels, 53 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: Dan Orlovski other neither neither Thursday Night Football. I would 54 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: hire al Michaels because I want to have a great 55 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 1: play by play voice. I want to have somebody who 56 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 1: you tune in because you know that there's quality, and 57 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 1: you could say he's the greatest play by play voice. 58 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: We have his instant credibility, Yes he does. I love Troy, 59 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:16,959 Speaker 1: but I do think that you could get some Marquis 60 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: talent in there. But you got to start with Al. 61 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 1: You start with Al, then I think, and plus, if 62 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: I'm an analyst, I get to work with Al Michaels. 63 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: I jump at that opportunity. And I don't know if 64 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: Troy is going to leave Fox or wants to leave Fox, 65 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: or maybe this is a leverage play as well. I 66 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:37,279 Speaker 1: love Orlovsky. I think that he has taken the blueprint 67 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: or subscribe to the blueprint. That I would tell guys 68 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: at ESPN, Guys like Sean Salisbury and Mike gol like 69 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: they weren't big names when they played, and I said, 70 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: if you show up and you're there every day, you're 71 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,880 Speaker 1: going to get run and just be available. And Orlovsky 72 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: has been available. And then when he gets on you 73 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: know these platforms at ESPN, he has been entr he's 74 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: not afraid, and he's creative, energetic. Those are the kind 75 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: of like you see these success stories at ESPN, like 76 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: John Clayton. Nobody knew John Clayton nationally, but John Clayton 77 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: because he was on the Mothership and he was available 78 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: all the time, then people would you know, they realized 79 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: who John Clayton was. Chris Mortenson broke bigger stories, but 80 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: John Clayton was always available, and that's what you have 81 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:28,279 Speaker 1: to be always available. And Dan Orlovski is now graduated 82 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: from just being available to being a very talented analyst. 83 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: But I would say start with al Michaels. Orlofsky feels 84 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: more studio like I like him when he's on display. 85 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: You know, he's a six five guy. Put him up 86 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: in the big in front of a big board and 87 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: he's animated. Those are the kind of things that you want. 88 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 1: Troy Aikman, Troy's a game analyst, and if you could 89 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: put him in there with al Michaels, that's pretty good. 90 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: And maybe you get both of them. You got onlimit 91 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: had funds there with Amazon that you could get al 92 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: Michaels and Troy Aikman. But Orlovsky is more studio to me, 93 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:09,000 Speaker 1: or at least he could do both. But I love 94 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: I like him in the presentation that he gives you 95 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: on the Mothership. You have seen we had two more 96 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: options for you. Okay. Ratings for the Super Bowl are 97 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 1: way up this year. Is that because of the team's 98 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: playing or the artists performing. I think that I think 99 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: the nation loved the Bengals as an underdog story. I 100 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know how much the Rams were 101 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: a tune in factor. They weren't a tune in factor 102 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles for those who lived there. They weren't 103 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 1: even in the top ten as far as markets. Detroit 104 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: was second behind Cincinnati. There are a lot of Lions 105 00:05:53,680 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: fans watching Matthew Stafford there a halftime show. You gotta 106 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:05,040 Speaker 1: factor it in because we do talk about that, you know, 107 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: and it's people who were sort of on the priphery 108 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 1: of being sports fans or football fans, and that they 109 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: would want to make sure they tuned in for the 110 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: halftime show. And I think you could probably say that 111 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: halftime show appealed to a few different generations demographics. But 112 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 1: I think it's a combination Los Angeles new stadium celebrities. There, 113 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: pretty pictures, interesting game down to the wire, halftime show. 114 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: I don't think they're any real negatives there. Yeah, Seed, 115 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,960 Speaker 1: And when you think about the artists that were on 116 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: stage for that halftime show, and then let's just say 117 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 1: records sold, something like eminem Is sold I don't know, 118 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 1: over two hundred million albums, and then that's not even 119 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 1: counting his streaming numbers where he just set a record 120 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: for most albums with over a billion streams, So he's 121 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 1: got I think. I think there's ten albums that he's 122 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: released and each one of those has been streamed over 123 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: a billion times. That's those that's crazy numbers. So you 124 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: throw in Mary J. Blige, Kendrick Lamar, Fitty Dre, Snoop Snoop, 125 00:07:14,600 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: all of them are huge. Yeah. I mean, that's that's 126 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: appealing to a lot of people. And I don't know 127 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: if they ever had any kind of stage presence with 128 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: another artist or artist where you had that many albums 129 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 1: sold in streams and probably nobody close to that. And 130 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: I think that doctor Dre is the guy who kind 131 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: of made them all happen. It's remarkable and I guess 132 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: he's gonna work with Mary J. Blige on a project here. Yeah. Point, 133 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 1: the specific ratings for parts of the Super Bowl are 134 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: coming in, But the only Super Bowl where the ratings 135 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: went up at halftime, they actually went up, was Michael Jackson. 136 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: They the peak super Bowl ratings for that Super Bowl 137 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: was Michael Jackson took the stage, So the only time 138 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 1: in history that that According to Sports Business Journal, they 139 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: said this could be the similar this year. Do they 140 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: know if the ratings went up at half times. They 141 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: don't know for this they're getting those numbers because they're 142 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: still putting together the streaming numbers from Peacock and other places. Okay, yeah, see, 143 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,680 Speaker 1: got one more option for the pole question. By the way, 144 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: make sure you sign up for the daily newsletter. Back 145 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: room guys Mario and Rob do a wonderful job daily 146 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: recap of the show. Exclusive content. You can see the 147 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: new RAMS Championship T shirt, trigger recipes that we cook 148 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: every Friday. Sign up in the box that pops out 149 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: on the right hand corner at Dan Patrick dot com, 150 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 1: and you are good to go. All right, Seeton of 151 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: our three guests today, all right, who's had the most 152 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: interesting career? Mike Florio, Jim Gray, Sean White most interesting career? Yes, 153 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: so on the surface, you might say Sean White right 154 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 1: out of the game, right, yeah. But Jim Gray is 155 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: he's like the Wolf. He's a fascinating guy. He's kind 156 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: of behind a whole bunch of major moments throughout the 157 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: last i don't know, two decades, say, of sports. He's 158 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 1: sort of Forrest Gump in a way that Forrest was 159 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: always there with all of these great moments in history. 160 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: But Jim actually did it in real life where he 161 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 1: was there. He did that. He covered that with Lebron 162 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, I mean, the biggest names in sports. He's 163 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: the guy right next to them, behind him being like, yeah, 164 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 1: let's put something together. It's wild. Yeah, yeah, I'm going 165 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: to Mike Florio. Mike Floria of NBC Sports. He's on 166 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: the biggest network in our country for sports and for 167 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: football coverage. He started as a lawyer who put together 168 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: a football site, who cut and pasted football articles from 169 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: around the country, so there's one stop shopping. He went 170 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: to the local Kinkos and bought a thing of how 171 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: to do a website, and that's why how his career started. 172 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: Do you know this? And then he started commenting on them, 173 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: and then he did the counter of how many days 174 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: since the player has been arrested? And then we started 175 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: having on our show, and that's the first time he 176 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: ever did national radio. And that's where his career started. 177 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 1: That's a fascinating career. And so Florida will join us, 178 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: Jim Gray will join us next hour, and Sean White 179 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: as well. I was also wondering this if I said, 180 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: you could find out the future of the following, who 181 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:17,240 Speaker 1: would you really be interested in? Tom Brady? You're sure 182 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:21,360 Speaker 1: he's retired. Al Michael's next job. Sean McVeigh. Is he staying? 183 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:26,040 Speaker 1: Is he going? Aaron Donald staying going? Ben Simmons, Deshaun Watson, 184 00:10:26,920 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: Zion Williamson, other out of that group of Brady not necessarily, 185 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: Al not necessarily Sean McVay, sword of Aaron Donald. I 186 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: don't know if you can walk away at age thirty. 187 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons, I'm just curious how he fits in with 188 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: the nets and you have just a small window to 189 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: get ready for the postseason. But I thought he came 190 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,880 Speaker 1: off pretty well yesterday in his Prescott Prince. As far 191 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: as James Harden, I don't want to hear from James Harden. 192 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: I just want to see you play, all right. You've 193 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: had opportunities, you know, build rosters, play with great players, 194 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: and it feels like you abandoned ship or you get 195 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: rid of players. And here he is now with Philadelphia. 196 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: This is what he wanted, So just go out and play. 197 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: I don't care about anything else. And then he said, hey, 198 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: you know what, Philadelphia was my first choice. While Ramona Shelburn, 199 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: who's a great reporter, for the Mothership. Said he had 200 00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,240 Speaker 1: the opportunity to either go to the Sixers or the Nets. 201 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: He chose the Nets, and I think he wanted to 202 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:44,960 Speaker 1: pick off a championship and then he wanted to leave 203 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 1: the Nets. I don't think I think he was one 204 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: and done there. But he's now a sixer. Go get him, 205 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 1: go play and do something in the postseason. How about that, 206 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: Zion Williamson. I told you this isn't good. And I 207 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: didn't think he was going to play this year. I 208 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna play this year. Eight seven seven 209 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: three d P Show email address DP of Dan Patrick 210 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: dot com, Twitter handle at DP show. Say good morning 211 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: to Peacock, our streaming partner. Also, you can let me 212 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: see anything else they need to mention. 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Be 240 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday morning nine until 241 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: noon eastern six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, 242 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: and you can find us on the iHeartRadio app at 243 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: FSR or stream us live on the Peacock app. Sean 244 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: White will join us coming up next our final hour, 245 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 1: we'll play the Seaun White game as he ever held 246 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: a job in his life. We did this with Tony 247 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: Hawk a couple of years ago, Sean at age thirty five. 248 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: And I guess he's gonna have to get a job now. Yeah. See, 249 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 1: he was famous at such a young age that man, 250 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: I bet it's a It seems very unlikely that he 251 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 1: has actually had a sort of normal job like that. 252 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: Did you see the documentary Dear Ryder, that's about the 253 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: guy who invented snowboarding, the Burton Boards, Jake Burton. Yeah, 254 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: it's really well done. I just saw it last week, 255 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 1: and they have an incredible way of saying goodbye to 256 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:43,000 Speaker 1: him when he passes away and all of these snowboarders 257 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: are there, you know, Jake's wife is there, as sons 258 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: are there, and Sean White is there as well. But 259 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: it was really really well done, very touching and what 260 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: he did, how he did it to get snowboarding to 261 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 1: where it is, and you know the fact that it's 262 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: an Olympic sport, and there are a lot of mountains 263 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: that don't allow. There's only a few mountains now I 264 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: think that don't allow snowboarders. But there is one in 265 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: Park City, Utah that doesn't allow. Do you know the 266 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: name of that mountain? There's a couple out in I 267 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: think Alta and maybe Deer Valley that the Dusky only. Yeah. 268 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: I also watched a movie. You ever watched a movie 269 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: you turn to your wife or your husband and you go, 270 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: did you like that? And I watched Licorice Pizza? And 271 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: there's some great cameos in there. You have Philip Seymour 272 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: Hoffmann's son, who was great. You have the is that 273 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 1: the lead singer of him? She's not the lead singer, 274 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: but she's one of this is she? I think she 275 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: plays guitar. They all kind of sing though, all three sisters. Okay, 276 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,200 Speaker 1: so Lena, him and her sisters are in the movie 277 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: as well. Her parents are in there. Sean Penn is 278 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: in there, Bradley Cooper's in there. I don't know. I 279 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: don't don't know. If I like the movie, how would 280 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: you describe it in one sentence? Like the plot if 281 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: there is one. I don't think there was a plot, 282 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 1: but it was entertaining and there's some really. First of all, 283 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: she was wonderful. That's first time she's ever acted. She's 284 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 1: thirty years of age, and she was great. Philip Seymour 285 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: Hoffman's son was great. Paul Thomas Anderson pta Is you know, 286 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 1: the guy who directed it. He did Boogie Nights, Magno. 287 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he's done so many movies. But the fact 288 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: that he had Philip Seymour Hoffman in Boogie Knights and 289 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:44,080 Speaker 1: then he's casting his son in this movie Licorice Pizza. 290 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 1: It's shot in an interesting way. It's about the seventies 291 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, in the valley, and I don't know 292 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: how I would describe it other than I would tell 293 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: you to see it, because you know, it's not about 294 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 1: explosions or I mean, it's just about sort of every 295 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 1: day But they he did it in a great way there. 296 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: It's interesting. But my wife said, did you like it? 297 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: And I go, I think I did, but I'm not 298 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:19,199 Speaker 1: quite sure. So it's called Liquorice Pizza. Yes, to the 299 00:17:19,200 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 1: fact that it has this little pretentious, cutesie title is 300 00:17:21,760 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: enough reason for me to not watch one second of that, 301 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: even if you came in and said, this will change 302 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 1: your life forever. Liquorice pizza. Okay, that's how they try 303 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 1: to get you, and a lot of times it doesn't 304 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: live up to the cute. Wow, what a clever you know, 305 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,400 Speaker 1: bougie title or whatever you want to go bougie. Yeah, 306 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: I dropped a bougie on you. Okay, liquorice pizza. Who 307 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 1: would put liquorice on pizza? No? No No, no, it's really 308 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: about that's the nail border in the valley. No, it's 309 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: the name of a record store. Pizza was the name 310 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: of a record store. I don't know. They got to 311 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,200 Speaker 1: get over themselves with liquorice pizza. I love when Todd 312 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: comes off the top rope for absolutely no reason, Like 313 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: I just I love that. I'd prefer he stayed on 314 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 1: the top rope. You know, Boogie Boe candy cane cheeseburgers. 315 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: Gotta see that candy cane cheeseburgers. How odd? Kind of 316 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 1: the theaters Friday? I'm there. Have we come up with 317 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: your T shirt? Damn three piece? Yet? Why don't you 318 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: work on that? I think it's in the process of 319 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: b we do. We have a damn three piece T shirt. 320 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,919 Speaker 1: We do. It hasn't been one hundred percent approved just yet. Um, 321 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 1: but I know Paul liked it. I haven't showed it 322 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 1: to the toddler yet. I have a vested interest. Okay, 323 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:41,800 Speaker 1: that's what's funny about it. It's not even the vest 324 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:46,119 Speaker 1: bold so ironic. The fact that you said he called 325 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: you three piece and you didn't have a three piece 326 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: suit on it. I know. All I know is I 327 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: just didn't want this guy to kick the crop out 328 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: of it, and I just went home never to wear 329 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:58,959 Speaker 1: that suit again. The biggest series live on HBO Max. 330 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: Catch Max Original Peacemaker starring John Cena, don't miss HBO 331 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: Original Winning Time, The Rise of the Lakers, Dynasty, Discover 332 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 1: all of this and more HBO Max for just nine 333 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: ninety nine a month. All right, did you settle on 334 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: a poll question? There? Seton O'Connor. Yeah, we're gonna throw 335 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 1: up whose career or whose future are you most interested? Okay, okay? 336 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: And that was Tom Brady, Al Michaels, Sean McVeagh, Aaron Donald, 337 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: Ben Simmons, Deshaun Watson, Zion Williamson. Out of all of 338 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 1: that you know that group. I'd say to Shaun Watson, 339 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: how does all this play civil lawsuit? When does he play? 340 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: Who's he play for? What are you giving up to 341 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: get to Shaun Watson? How's that impact where other quarterbacks 342 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: could be going? Yeah, seton, I'm so curious about Ben Simmons. 343 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: What if he just had all of this time well 344 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: I don't want to say off, but he's had all 345 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: of this time away from the game. There's almost this 346 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: expectation that, like, dude, you better come back start hitting 347 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: some free throws, you know what I mean, Like, I 348 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: hope that you've been working this stuff out. What if 349 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,080 Speaker 1: he goes on to have a tremendous career after this 350 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 1: once he got out of Philadelphia. There's so much unknown there, 351 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 1: but I don't he was in a good free throw 352 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: shooter prior to all the druma in Philadelphia, Paula, you 353 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,640 Speaker 1: got Ben Simmons stats. Yeah, he was never a three 354 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 1: point shooter. Remember he made that one or two and 355 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: he never really became a volume three point shooter. His 356 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: free throw percentage going back to his rookie year was 357 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: fifty six percent. Last year was sixty one percent. It's 358 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: still in a lower third of the league. All I 359 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: need to do is get him to a round seventy five. 360 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: If you're going to handle the ball, I get it 361 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: to seventy five, then I think that you got you 362 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 1: got something there. Now he's going to help you on 363 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: the defensive end. You know, he's got two good shooters, 364 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: Kyrie KD. He's a really good passer rebounder, and you 365 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: kind of put him in an element where or an 366 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: environment where you go, Okay, let's let's put him in 367 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,959 Speaker 1: a situation where he can succeed. But if you said 368 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: that I can get twenty points out of him, and 369 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 1: I can get whatever eight rebounds, I can get eight assists, 370 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna play good defense. You know, he's not a 371 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: selfish player. In fact, he's too unselfish. But I'd like 372 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: to get him to that point where you know he's 373 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 1: not thinking about things. He's just reacting, because the great 374 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: players don't need to think when they get on the court. 375 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 1: They just react. Yeah, so seton. If you're not going 376 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: to be a long range shooter, you have to be 377 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: able to get to the rim and draw contact, get fouls, 378 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: and get to the line. Yeah. If you can't do that, 379 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: too it feels like it's kind of crippling to your game. 380 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: Yes it is. But if he can and he can 381 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,440 Speaker 1: get to the hoop, but you've got to make those 382 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 1: free throws. If you make those free throws, then at 383 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: least you're a weapon. You don't want to be a 384 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: liability at the other end, here's Ben Simmons on what 385 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 1: made him want to leave the seventy six ers. It 386 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: was just piled up a bunch of things that have 387 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: gone over the years, so where I just knew I 388 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: wasn't myself and I need to get back into that 389 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,920 Speaker 1: place of you know, being myself and being happy as 390 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: a person and taking care of my well being. U. 391 00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 1: And that was like that was the major thing for me. Um. 392 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: It wasn't about the basketball. It wasn't about the money 393 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: anything like that. Um, you know, I want to be 394 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 1: who I am and get back to you know, playing 395 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 1: basketball at that level and you know, being myself. And 396 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: the last game it was kind of always going on 397 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: through your mind after the last game that I need 398 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: to get in a good place mentally. Honestly, Um, that 399 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: was the main thing. Okay, I don't think it's insensitive 400 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 1: to asking about these questions that have to do with 401 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: mental health, like what was it? And I'm not judging 402 00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: him as much as I'm just curious about this, and 403 00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: this is a great platform for him if he is 404 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: he chooses to talk about it. Kevin Love has spoken 405 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: about this, I've spoken about this. Ron our Test has 406 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 1: spoken about this. You get the opportunity to explain things 407 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,840 Speaker 1: that it's okay, but don't tell tell me what it's not. 408 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 1: Just tell me what it is so we understand this. 409 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,879 Speaker 1: And I know that he didn't get paid and he 410 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: lost whatever twenty million dollars, But what is it now 411 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 1: that's going to make this better? Was it that? Why 412 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: was it that bad? And maybe he wants to just say, look, 413 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: I got I'm moving on, I got this opportunity. I 414 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: understand all of that, but I don't think it's insensitive 415 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 1: to ask him about mental health because that's at the 416 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: core of all this and how are you going to 417 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: be able to deal with what the stress that happens 418 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,679 Speaker 1: in Brooklyn? Like these are just normal questions that were 419 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 1: you know, I'd ask, but you know, social media was like, oh, 420 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: people are judging. I'm not judging. People said, oh, leave 421 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: him alone. No, you are encouraged to talk about these things. 422 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: If you go through therapy and you have depression, it's 423 00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: speak to somebody. They may not want to speak to 424 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 1: the media. But hopefully he gets comfortable enough and he's 425 00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 1: gone through some things in his personal life. But you know, 426 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: I would love if he wrote a first person article 427 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: on this. You don't have to answer questions up there, 428 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: but share with us so we do understand all of this. 429 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 1: And he did pay a price, literally paid a price 430 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: for this. But his agency has brought this up about 431 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: the mental health aspect of this. It came down to, 432 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: in my opinion, he lost confidence, even more confidence. He 433 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: also had players who turned on him coach after the 434 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: facts saying, you know, can you win a championship with him? 435 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. And you know, these guys are young, 436 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: they're sensitive, like Kyler Murray. I was told yesterday by 437 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: a source said, hey, understand, these guys are really young. 438 00:24:46,960 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: You know you have kids who were their age, and 439 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: he was kind of saying, you know, people who were 440 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: older and have the experience, it's easy to go, man, 441 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 1: come on, Kyler. But you know the it was when 442 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: we were growing up and athletes were growing up, we 443 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: hid those issues. I remember Terry Bradshaw coming on the 444 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: show and saying he didn't mention depression. He hated Chuck Noll. 445 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,160 Speaker 1: He hated the way he was treated by Chuck Noll. 446 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: He won four super Bowls. He was going to walk 447 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: away after his fourth super Bowl, I think four and 448 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 1: nine years. But Terry didn't even know what the problem was. 449 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: Kevin Love didn't know what the problem was. Walked off 450 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 1: the floor like it's real, we understand it. I want 451 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 1: to be sensitive to it. I shared with you, you know, 452 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: a terrible bout a depression. I went through, terrible and all. 453 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,160 Speaker 1: You don't know what to say and who to say 454 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: it too, and how you're going to be viewed. When 455 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: I was growing up, if you had mental issues or depression, 456 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 1: then you were crazy. Yet a weakness there. And I 457 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 1: hope that Ben is able to use this and make 458 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 1: it a positive for him and strengthen him self with this. 459 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: But he's in a sport that all eyes are going 460 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 1: to be on him when he goes to the free 461 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: throw line, all eyes are going to be on him. 462 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: At the end of games, all eyes are going to 463 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 1: be on him. You better be mentally tough so you 464 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: didn't play for Philadelphia. Hopefully he was getting the treatment, 465 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: the care that he needed. But I don't think that 466 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: it was insensitive to bring this up. And I'm not 467 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 1: judging if I ask. I'm just asking because there's a 468 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: curiosity as he moves forward with this, because the pressure 469 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: doesn't you know, it's not alleviated, it doesn't dissipate. There's 470 00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: going to be a great pressure on him. Even more. 471 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: You're playing with Kevin Durant, Kyrie Irving, I think you 472 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 1: got a better chance of winning a championship than you 473 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: did in Philadelphia, so the pressure is still there. Ben 474 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: Simmons talked about playing with Kyrie and Kevin Durant and 475 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: as far as plan with Kyrie and KD, how do 476 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: you think what you do accentuates what they already do 477 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: on the floor. Well, I think it's gonna be scary 478 00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 1: having those guys run alongside me. There's you know, multiple 479 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,639 Speaker 1: different weapons in the floor, and I think at the 480 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: pace we want to play at, it's it's gonna be 481 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: unreal good. I hope it's exciting. I hope it's fun. 482 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: I love the trade for the nets. I don't want 483 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: to be in the James Harden business. I don't because 484 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:36,320 Speaker 1: he's quit on teams. Uh, you know he he couldn't 485 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 1: play with Chris Paul like Keith. I mean, come on, 486 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,639 Speaker 1: and you got an opportunity to play with KD. You 487 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,680 Speaker 1: could have gone to Philly. According to Ramona Schelburn, he 488 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: could have gone there. He wanted to go to Brooklyn 489 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 1: win a championship, and then he was gonna leave and 490 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: maybe go It's almost like that was the way station. Hey, 491 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: I gotta go here for a year. It's like a 492 00:27:58,320 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 1: gap year, and then he was gonna get to go 493 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: of Philadelphia where he's wanted to go. But from what 494 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: Ramona reported, and I trust that, you know, he had 495 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: the opportunity and he chose to go to Brooklyn instead. Yeah. 496 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: I saw a quote from James Harden on social media 497 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,240 Speaker 1: yesterday and I thought it was the onion. James Harden quote. 498 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 1: I want to play alongside guys that know how to win, 499 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: and we'll do whatever whatever it takes to win. Kevin 500 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: durantscot rings plural. Kyrie Irving has a ring. I know 501 00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:25,600 Speaker 1: he was just part of it, but he was a 502 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:27,880 Speaker 1: big part of it. James Harden, I don't think has 503 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: a ring. Don't anything he said, I want to play 504 00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: along guys who know how to win, and we'll do 505 00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 1: whatever it takes to win. People never won. People think 506 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: that was a shot at Kyrie for playing half the games. Okay, 507 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: and I understand that you sign up for that and 508 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: you didn't expect Kyrie to play just half the games. 509 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:47,560 Speaker 1: I get that, But James James Harden should be the 510 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: poster child for what it takes to win in the NBA. 511 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: You know. See that's funny. So along these topics start 512 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: a quick poll update. All right, whose future would you 513 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: most like to know about? Deshaun Watson getting a monstrous 514 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: forty percent of the vote. Where do you think Ben 515 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 1: Simmons is at the very bottom? Less than two? Yeah, 516 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: very bottom? How about that? And I think it's just 517 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 1: we're so tired of Ben Simmons. The story is going 518 00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: to play, not gonna play? Why is he not playing? 519 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: Didn't sit on the bench, didn't go to practice. Okay, 520 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: Now he's traded. I mean I feel that, you know, 521 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,120 Speaker 1: they're just part of his hugo. Just go out and play. 522 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: If Ben wants to hold a press conference and really 523 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: let us in behind the curtain, great, I'm all yours. 524 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: But right now. I just want to see everybody play. 525 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: James Harden, I don't care, just play. That's it, Andrew 526 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 1: and Washington starts this off. Mike Florio is going to 527 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,160 Speaker 1: join us. We'll talk to him. Is it a foregone 528 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 1: conclusion that Kevin O'Connell is going to take the Vikings 529 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: job as the Rams offensive coordinator? Or is there maybe 530 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: some second thoughts with what's going on with Sean McVeigh. Hey, Andrew, 531 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: what's on your mind? Good morning, Dan? Five six and 532 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: they need to get back to the gym. One seventy six. 533 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 1: All right, thanks guys. Hey, I did have a couple 534 00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: of pole ideas. One of mine is along the same 535 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,560 Speaker 1: lines as what you guys came up with for Hour 536 00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: of one with whose career would you like to know 537 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: what happens with? But mine was who's most likely to 538 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: be with their team next year? Aaron Donald Russell Westbrook 539 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,959 Speaker 1: for Kyler Murray? And the other pole option I came 540 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 1: up with was, now that the football season is over, 541 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: what are you most looking forward to? March Madness, NBA Finals, 542 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: major League Baseball if it ever gets started, or just 543 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: an NFL off seas So, hey, Dan, one more thing 544 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 1: real quick, but I pitch a T shirt. I have 545 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: a T shirt idea. Okay, if you don't have a 546 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 1: BRG back Room Guy T shirt, and it could be 547 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 1: in the logo style like you guys didn't know Omar's 548 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: back in the day for Reservoir Dogs with Reservoir Dorks. 549 00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: You could do a BRG T shirt in the theme 550 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: of the hangover with the guys coming down. Okay, Um, 551 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: not sure I follow what that's gonna look like. I 552 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: don't know if there's a big market for the back 553 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 1: room guy's T shirt here other than the family members 554 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,960 Speaker 1: of the back room guys. Yeah, set, I mean we 555 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: can look at it. We can look at it for sure. Okay, yeah, 556 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: morph it's too bad. I'm not going to be on 557 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: that T shirt anymore. Yeah. Who whoa, whoa. That's a 558 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: sense front room guy, you know who gets crushed every time. 559 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: You know, Marvin gets to eat when we eat and 560 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:44,320 Speaker 1: and Mario. It kills Mario because because I told I 561 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 1: told Marvin last week, I said, dude, you get to 562 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: eat when we eat. He goes, Wait, oh, I don't 563 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: have to be the twelve fifteen club. I go no, no, no, 564 00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 1: you're front front row man. And Mario was holding the camera, 565 00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 1: and and Marvin was eating while Mario was watching him eat. 566 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 1: I mean, look, this could be a temporary position, but 567 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: you're in the room right now, No Seaton back into 568 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 1: motion row, So who knows what's gonna happen, you know, Seaton. 569 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: There is also a lot of the speculation that sort 570 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: of subcurrent, or a subtweet, if you will, is how 571 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 1: crushed Mario must be. Why did Mario get the call? 572 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:24,800 Speaker 1: Is he in trouble? I don't know, I don't know. 573 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: I'm not at liberty to talk about this right now. 574 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: Mario's status here? Yes, both? It teams all over the 575 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,600 Speaker 1: story port next week, all right, we'll take a break. 576 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,040 Speaker 1: Play of the day Mike Florio up next. Thanks for 577 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be sure to 578 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday morning nine until noon eastern 579 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: six to nine Pacific on Fox Sports Radio, and you 580 00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: can find us on the iHeartRadio app at FSR or 581 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: stream us live on the Peacock app. Hey, it's Ben, 582 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: host of the Fifth Hour with Ben Maller along with 583 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: my trustee sidekick David Gascon. Would mean a lot to 584 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: have you join us at our weekly auditory journey. You're asking, 585 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: what in God's name is the Fifth Hour. I'll tell 586 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: you it's a spin off of that Ben Mather show, 587 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: Colt Hit overnights on FSR. Why should you listen? Picture 588 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: if you will? A world will We chat with captains 589 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: of industry in media, sports and more every week Explorer 590 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 1: some amazing facts about human nature and more. Let'sten to 591 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: the Fifth Hour with Ben Mather on the iHeartRadio app, 592 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 1: Apple Podcast or wherever you get your podcastle look at Marvin, 593 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: Marvin kissing up to Paulie playing Rush that works. You're 594 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 1: doing it all. Marvin guys learning how to work the 595 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: rumor what oh? And Marvin's a funny guy. Funny guy. 596 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: And I said, hey, you're in the front row now, 597 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: Marvin goes. Didn't need a Rooney roll here on the 598 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: Dan Patrick Show. Sure didn't know. You are our first pick, 599 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: first person. You're the only person that we thought of. Yeah, oh, 600 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: we'll do play of the Day coming up here. I 601 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 1: want to get to Mike Florio kind enough to join 602 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: us on short notice, and his new book, by the 603 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: Way is a must. Playmakers comes out March fifteenth, can 604 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,359 Speaker 1: be purchased both online wherever Books are sold. Mike sent 605 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,919 Speaker 1: me an advanced copy, and there's a lot of good 606 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: stuff in there. Didn't autograph it, but there's a lot 607 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:20,719 Speaker 1: of good stuff in there, Mike joins us. Now, no 608 00:34:20,840 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: autograph news, you are fake news. I autographed it. Oh 609 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: you signed it? Oh you did? Yeah, you haven't even 610 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: opened it. Oh I did. I opened it to the 611 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: actual chapters, not to the first couple of pages the cover. Okay, 612 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,799 Speaker 1: and there's a lovely inscription. It may bring a tear 613 00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: to your eye, probably won't, but I did sign it. Polly, 614 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: do you know where I have Florio's book? Paul's going 615 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: to look for it. Okay, you keep the garbage. I 616 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,360 Speaker 1: think you got it right there, Polly, Now I can. 617 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,640 Speaker 1: I got on it right here. It's really close to me. Okay, 618 00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: let's see what it says. Here's Mike Florio's playmakers, how 619 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,360 Speaker 1: the the NFL really works and it doesn't dp. Thanks 620 00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: for your friendship and support over the years, Mike Florio, 621 00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: Well that's not really you know, but I did sign it. 622 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 1: How about thank you for my career. I never would 623 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 1: have had this career without you, Dan, that's true, that's true. 624 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,400 Speaker 1: But I've I've already told you that separate. They expect 625 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,880 Speaker 1: you to come up with something different. All right, thank you, okay, 626 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: help you for my career. Help me understand back now, 627 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: help me understand the Sean McVay situation. And does it 628 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: affect Kevin o'connon. Is it real there it would affect 629 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: Kevin O'Connell taking the Vikings job. Well, you know we 630 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 1: learned four years ago in a Super Bowl that was 631 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,280 Speaker 1: played in the stadium where the Vikings play their home games, 632 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: that none of this stuff's ever done until it's done. 633 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: And I keep seeing reports about what the Vikings are 634 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: going to do. I'm waiting for the report that it's done. 635 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: I want to see the signature from Kevin O'Connell on 636 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,320 Speaker 1: the last page of the contract. And until what happens. 637 00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,360 Speaker 1: We saw McDaniel's joke the Colts. Now, there's no real 638 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: reason right now to think it's going to happen. But 639 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: if Stan cronky's working behind the scenes, he's the owner 640 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 1: of the Rams obviously, and he's like, hey, Sean, what 641 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 1: are you gonna do? I think it's too early for 642 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: the Sean McVay situation to come to a head where 643 00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: Stan Cronky would have to pivot to Kevin O'Connell, and 644 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: he's got Raheem Morris the defensive coordinator if McVeigh does leave, 645 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 1: so it's not as critical as it would be. But 646 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: if McVay would exit like today, which no one thinks 647 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: that's gonna happen, you'd have to wonder whether or not 648 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: Cronky would would want to try to keep Kevin O'Connell. 649 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: But I get the impression McVeigh is kind of sitting 650 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,720 Speaker 1: back and waiting to see if one of these networks 651 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: makes him an offer, then either he can't refuse or 652 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 1: that he can't resist taking to Cronky and saying, hey, 653 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,640 Speaker 1: they're gonna pay me fifteen million, you're paying me x 654 00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: Are you gonna pay me more or not? And I 655 00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: think that's a fair game. I think mcveigh's in a 656 00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: great spot now. Somebody's either gonna make him an offer 657 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: that he says, wow, okay, I'm leaving for ESPN or wherever, 658 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: or Cronky's gonna pay him. Either way, he's gonna get paid, okay. 659 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: So Aaron Donald, is that a leverage play as well? 660 00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: It could be he's due to make fifty five million 661 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 1: over the next three years, about eighteen million in change. 662 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,920 Speaker 1: He puts a lot of himself into his offseason preparation. 663 00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,759 Speaker 1: LA is a long way away from Pittsburgh. He's a 664 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh guy, and hey, having flown from Pittsburgh to LA 665 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,480 Speaker 1: and LA to Pittsburgh nine days apart, it's like two 666 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:27,879 Speaker 1: different worlds. And he's out there for five months out 667 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,839 Speaker 1: of the year, and I think that's wearing on him 668 00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:32,799 Speaker 1: after eight years. So you want to make it worth 669 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: his while. You know, he's currently doing it for eighteen million, 670 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,319 Speaker 1: nine million, under the top of the market for a 671 00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: defensive lineman. Maybe that gets his attention and gets him 672 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 1: to do it again. But I really do think he's 673 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:45,760 Speaker 1: seriously considering calling it quits while he's at the pinnacle 674 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 1: of the profession after eight years and after putting a 675 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 1: lot of himself into his game. I was also wondering 676 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,280 Speaker 1: about Odell Beckham Junior with this knee injury, knee surgery. 677 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: At some point, does he start to look at what's next? 678 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 1: Could you see him in the media, could you see 679 00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: him as a a studio analyst here? And what would 680 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,160 Speaker 1: be that value? Well, I mean, he always brings value 681 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,960 Speaker 1: because of who he is, but as you know, at 682 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,880 Speaker 1: some point you have to actually do the job. And 683 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: there are plenty of former players who become analysts and 684 00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:19,120 Speaker 1: they don't really become analysts. They have to become a 685 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: fan of the game. You have to think like a 686 00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,719 Speaker 1: fan things. You have to follow the sport like a 687 00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 1: fan follows the sport, or you quickly lose relevance, you 688 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,520 Speaker 1: quickly make no sense. It can't just be well, this 689 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: is what we did, this is what I did, this 690 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:33,480 Speaker 1: is what you know, this is what I know from 691 00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:35,520 Speaker 1: when I played. You've got to be a true student 692 00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 1: of the game. And I don't know that he cares 693 00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:40,560 Speaker 1: about football enough to make that pivot. Maybe he does, 694 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,840 Speaker 1: Maybe he does, But you're right, Dan, look same acl 695 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 1: torn twice and Michael David Smith from PFT pointed out 696 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: yesterday that when he did it the last time, it 697 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,840 Speaker 1: was like eleven months before he was cleared to play again. 698 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: He'll miss all of the season, at least all of 699 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,480 Speaker 1: the regular season if he has that same trajectory with 700 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,440 Speaker 1: the same injury to the same knee, and that was 701 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,400 Speaker 1: that was heartbreaking for him. He could have been the 702 00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: MVP of the game the way he was playing. The 703 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,719 Speaker 1: Rams lost the air out of the balloon when he 704 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 1: got injured and they almost didn't get it back in time. 705 00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,920 Speaker 1: We're talking to Mike Florio Pro Football Talk Live co 706 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,360 Speaker 1: host with Chris Sims. You can watch that on Peacock. 707 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,320 Speaker 1: I know that Matthew Stafford is he a Hall of Famer? 708 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,760 Speaker 1: Was a big topic. I think we ran out of topic, 709 00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:25,640 Speaker 1: so it's like, Matthew Stafford a Hall of Famer question mark? 710 00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,600 Speaker 1: But I have to give Matthew Stafford credit for two things. 711 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: Megatron's season that was the greatest season we had seen 712 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,239 Speaker 1: by a wide receiver, and now Cooper Cups which is 713 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,760 Speaker 1: the greatest receiving year that we've ever had. It doesn't 714 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,319 Speaker 1: feel like he gets any credit of that. You're like, oh, 715 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:47,360 Speaker 1: that's write. He was Calvin Johnson's quarterback. Where do you 716 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: stand with Matthew Stafford right now? Well, Matthew Stafford suffered 717 00:39:52,120 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 1: through twelve seasons in Detroit where he was pretty much 718 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:57,800 Speaker 1: alone but for Calvin Johnson, and they did have a 719 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:00,600 Speaker 1: Don mckinsou for a while, but it's a dysfunctional organization 720 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: and they never were able to put together a consistent winner. Now, 721 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,560 Speaker 1: there have been times where I was concerned that he 722 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: wasn't as forceful from a personality standpoint as a Peyton 723 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: Manning or Tom Brady would be, and he kind of 724 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 1: tolerated not being part of a great team. Maybe he 725 00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: should have forced himself out of that situation earlier. But 726 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 1: he can make all the throws. I mean, you've seen 727 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 1: the video the no look throw to Cooper Cup. He's 728 00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: always been like that. He was Patrick Mahomes before we 729 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:28,760 Speaker 1: learned about Patrick Mahomes. The guy's got incredible arm talent. 730 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 1: And when you look at the all time statistics, he's 731 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: already twelfth in passing yardage, twelfth in passing touchdowns, and 732 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: he just turned thirty four last week. So this whole 733 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:43,319 Speaker 1: idea of is you're a Hall of Famer, to me, 734 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 1: it's ridiculous because he's got five more years left. I 735 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,840 Speaker 1: don't know how long he's gonna play. There's many chapters 736 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: left in this book. He could win another Super Bowl. 737 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 1: If he gets another Super Bowl, he's clearly a Hall 738 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: of Famer. He could finish in the top five of 739 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: passing yardage. Of course, that puts you clearly in the discussion. 740 00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:02,399 Speaker 1: So and I respect the fact that you know he's 741 00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:04,239 Speaker 1: not a guy who's very demonstrative. We don't get a 742 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 1: lot of videos and him chewing people out on the sideline. 743 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,439 Speaker 1: We don't get a lot of hot take reports about 744 00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: whether he's selfish or immature. There isn't that kind of stuff, 745 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 1: and you know, it's hard to stand out if you're 746 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: not that way. But his play does all the talking 747 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: for him, and people are starting to appreciate it more 748 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:22,400 Speaker 1: now that he's with a better team. What should we 749 00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,800 Speaker 1: keep an eye on with Deshaun Watson's offseason. Well, we've 750 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: been expecting or hoping or waiting for some sort of 751 00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 1: resolution as to the criminal probe. The prosecution, potential prosecution, 752 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 1: grand jury work was supposed to be done the end 753 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,840 Speaker 1: of January. Now that we're clear of the super Bowl, 754 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 1: I need to go back and see where that stands. 755 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,799 Speaker 1: You got twenty two lawsuits that are moving forward. Now 756 00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,359 Speaker 1: that the super Bowl's over, he can be questioned under 757 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,520 Speaker 1: oath by Tony Buzzby, who represents the twenty two individuals. 758 00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:56,440 Speaker 1: And you know that the problem is it's so obvious 759 00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: he needs to put these cases behind him to continue 760 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 1: his career. That that gives Tony Buzzby more leverage when 761 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,960 Speaker 1: it's time to negotiate a settlement. They had eighteen of 762 00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,160 Speaker 1: these twenty two cases ready to work out back in 763 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:09,280 Speaker 1: late October, so he could have been traded to the Dolphins. 764 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,399 Speaker 1: There were four holdouts. The value of that case keeps 765 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,680 Speaker 1: going up and up and up, if you know, he's 766 00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,560 Speaker 1: got to settle these in order to get back to 767 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:18,680 Speaker 1: the NFL. So at some point they just have to 768 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 1: sit down and work this out. He needs to work 769 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,839 Speaker 1: out satisfactorily to the individuals who claim they were victimized 770 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 1: by Watson, something that allows him to put it behind him. 771 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 1: But you know, the problem ban is a quarterback carousel 772 00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,840 Speaker 1: is gonna start spinning, seats are gonna get filled, and 773 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 1: maybe the teams he wants to go to will have 774 00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,000 Speaker 1: moved on. So it's it's gonna be a challenge for 775 00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:43,399 Speaker 1: them to get this taken care of. The book is Playmakers. 776 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,160 Speaker 1: It's Mike Florio's book. March fifteenth. Can be purchased online 777 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,400 Speaker 1: wherever books are sold. Thank you, Mike, Thanks Dan and Florio. 778 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 1: Autograph fit for you who come to your house and 779 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:56,759 Speaker 1: autograph fit for you. Coming up next hour, Jim Gray 780 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,800 Speaker 1: will join us Sean Whitestop Spy