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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, It's Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks and this

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Speaker 1: is Sam Donald three sixty. Donald usc touchdown one time again.

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Speaker 1: Sam Darnald preseason high smood favorite, could be the number

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Speaker 1: one pick in the draft. Donald keeps it a lot,

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Speaker 1: another beautiful troll. He's a phenomenal bootball players some think

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Speaker 1: the best in the country. All right, Bucket's finally here

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Speaker 1: the Sam Donald three sixty podcast, the final podcast and

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Speaker 1: this year's three sixties series. Been looking forward to this one.

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Speaker 1: Buck an entire podcast all about Sam Donald. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: get a chance to break down his game, talk about

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Speaker 1: some potential NFL fits, and we're gonna talk to everybody

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Speaker 1: around Sam Donald. On this podcast, we talked to his

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Speaker 1: high school coach and college coaches, quarterback guru Trent Dilfer,

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Speaker 1: and a whole cast of others, plus demand himself. Sam

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Speaker 1: Donald would join the program before we get there, buck

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Speaker 1: Let's breakdown Sam Donald. What we see when we study

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Speaker 1: his game. I'll give you the floor first athletic unslinger,

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Speaker 1: a guy who you've talked about being fearless, courageous, He's

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Speaker 1: clutched um, he can make plays in the pocket, outside

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Speaker 1: the pocket, he's a big game performer. When I look

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Speaker 1: at Sam Donald and how his ceiling could evolve to

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Speaker 1: the next level, I think he's a guy that plays

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Speaker 1: the game in a fashion that is like Jamis Winston.

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Speaker 1: But I think he's going to be an even better

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Speaker 1: player when I think about some of my concerns. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: that can manage some of the risk taking that he

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Speaker 1: exhibits on tape. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: the guy is a winner. He's a blue collar player.

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Speaker 1: He is someone that strikes me as the epitome of

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Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback at the next level. Yeah, I just

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Speaker 1: think the toughness at the quarterback position is so undervalued.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a huge component there, and he has

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Speaker 1: that not only the physical toughness to stand in there

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Speaker 1: be able to back to UH, to be able to

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Speaker 1: has that ability to to be able to shut that

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Speaker 1: seeing him. I was at the Rose Bowl when he

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Speaker 1: tore up Penn State that epic comeback game. Was there

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Speaker 1: for that one. I remember the moments when you you

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Speaker 1: watch him against Washington that year against the top team,

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Speaker 1: and how he performed in that game. And then this

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Speaker 1: brings him back Texas chance to study that game on tap.

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Speaker 1: He has a lot of moments when you study him

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Speaker 1: where he clearly established himself and really kind of took

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Speaker 1: when we talked about evaluating a quarterback, evaluating an elite prospect,

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Speaker 1: there have there have to be plenty of instances where

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Speaker 1: you feel him take the game over, you feel his

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Speaker 1: dominance pop up on tape. I have that with Sam Donald.

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Speaker 1: It's not always the prettiest tape. It's not always clean,

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Speaker 1: but I have enough instances in big games against high

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Speaker 1: feel comfortable saying, Okay, this is a top five talent

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Speaker 1: that I'm looking at on tape. Yeah, I've compared him

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Speaker 1: similar guy. Look, we've talked about his game not necessarily

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Speaker 1: negatives with Sam. I'm with you. To me, it's the fumbles.

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Speaker 1: Let's not let's not wait any longer. Let's jump right

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Speaker 1: in here. This first interview was with Himie Ortiz, the

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Speaker 1: head coach at San Clementi High School, Sam Donald's high

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Speaker 1: school coach. Coach, How are you doing today? Doing great?

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Speaker 1: the rest of the game. Whether Sam has a good

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Speaker 1: play or a bad play, he immediately clicks into the

432
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Speaker 1: next situation. What's the downard distance, Where are we on

433
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Speaker 1: the field? What do I need to get accomplished here?

434
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Speaker 1: His emotions don't at the best of him. He just

435
00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,880
Speaker 1: moves on to that next play in the next situation

436
00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:06,399
Speaker 1: so he can help his team be successful. And it

437
00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:10,200
Speaker 1: shows just the poise that he has and the air

438
00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,439
Speaker 1: of confidence then s he has just spreads over the

439
00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,320
Speaker 1: rest of the team. And that's what he did here

440
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Speaker 1: for the past two years. Coach, I look at the

441
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,040
Speaker 1: just look at the numbers, the raw numbers. Early in

442
00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:21,960
Speaker 1: the season, I think Sam had like six picks in

443
00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:23,760
Speaker 1: the first three games, and after that he kind of

444
00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,600
Speaker 1: got under control. I think he has seven the whole

445
00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,439
Speaker 1: rest of the season. There interception wise, What did you

446
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Speaker 1: attribute the early season turnovers too, and what correction was

447
00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,359
Speaker 1: made there? Well, I think anytime that you have some

448
00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,480
Speaker 1: young wine Outs. If you remember, we lost two really

449
00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:42,280
Speaker 1: really good players in Jujuice Smith Schuster and Darius Rodgers,

450
00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,640
Speaker 1: and you know, we had some young players that were

451
00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:47,719
Speaker 1: out there and getting on the same page with them

452
00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:51,320
Speaker 1: a little bit and had had maybe an unforeced error

453
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Speaker 1: or two ball that maybe Sam would love to have back. Um.

454
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Speaker 1: But then there were times that all of a sudden,

455
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Speaker 1: we're playing Texas and he throws the perfect dig oute

456
00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:02,159
Speaker 1: to young white out and the dang bounces off his

457
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,000
Speaker 1: hands and goes to the safety, and that happens. You know,

458
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,520
Speaker 1: you throw the perfect ball, perfect raed and and it

459
00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 1: ends up into being a pick. And those are the

460
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,159
Speaker 1: things you got to look at. Sometimes the numbers hide

461
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Speaker 1: some of those and uh, some of the things going

462
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Speaker 1: around you like some young white Outs and developing a chemistry.

463
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Speaker 1: But I thought, as as our younger players grew, so

464
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Speaker 1: did Sam. You know, so did the numbers for Sam.

465
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Speaker 1: Sam never changed anything from his sophomore to junior year.

466
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Speaker 1: I thought he played at the same level. Um, it

467
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Speaker 1: was just us developing some young kids and getting them better.

468
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Speaker 1: I'm glad you said that because you go back in

469
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Speaker 1: the Texas interception your reference there. I go back to

470
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Speaker 1: the Western Michigan game where he's given somebody a chance

471
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 1: on a fifty fifty ball that the year before you

472
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Speaker 1: had Darius Rodgers come down with a bunch of those,

473
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Speaker 1: and in that time it ends up a resulting interception.

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Speaker 1: There's a reason for several of those. But I want

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Speaker 1: to get to the playing the position. You've played the position,

476
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Speaker 1: You've coached a position forever. One of the things on

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Speaker 1: the scouting side that that we've seen over the last

478
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Speaker 1: few years, especially with the proliferation of the spread, is

479
00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,440
Speaker 1: so much of the game is played on the perimeter. Coach.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that stood out to me about

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Speaker 1: Sam is I don't think it's reckless. I put it

482
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Speaker 1: down more it's fearless. He works in the middle of

483
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Speaker 1: the field more than just about any college quarterback. I've

484
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Speaker 1: seen it quite some time. How difficult is it to

485
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Speaker 1: get guys to work in that muddy area when the

486
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,119
Speaker 1: college game is just it's just so easy to just

487
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Speaker 1: stay out there on the perimeter. Yeah, you know, being

488
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Speaker 1: a pro style offense especially in our drop back passing game.

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Speaker 1: You know, we have multi progression reads that he has

490
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Speaker 1: to go through, sometimes five man progressions or you know,

491
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Speaker 1: you you you break the field and half and you're

492
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Speaker 1: working this half of the field on one coverage and

493
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Speaker 1: the other half on the other. Um plus, he he

494
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Speaker 1: was exceptional in two areas. He was great at finding

495
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Speaker 1: his one on one matchups. And if that was a

496
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Speaker 1: tight end down the middle of the field matched up

497
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Speaker 1: on a mic linebacker, he was taking the shot, you know.

498
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Speaker 1: Or if it was out outside on the deep ball

499
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,880
Speaker 1: and he just liked the matchup, he was gonna take

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Speaker 1: the one on one shote, just like you said at

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Speaker 1: the Western Michigan game. You know, he he would, doesn't

502
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Speaker 1: he would. He had the great ability to find the

503
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Speaker 1: one on one and get there. But then he had something,

504
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:07,800
Speaker 1: I swear to God. I think it's from him being

505
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,040
Speaker 1: a point guard in basketball in high school. His vision

506
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,120
Speaker 1: is unique to be able to find open receivers when

507
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Speaker 1: the pocket breaks down a little bit, and a lot

508
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Speaker 1: of those times that's over the middle. All of a sudden,

509
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Speaker 1: you gotta shallow out that dragged the linebacker away. You

510
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: had to step up in the pocket. There comes a

511
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:29,040
Speaker 1: digging behind it, and he's able to manipulate his body

512
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Speaker 1: because his core is so strong. He didn't have to

513
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Speaker 1: have the perfect mechanics to be able to get the

514
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Speaker 1: ball there. Um. He had such great arm strength, such

515
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Speaker 1: great different arm angles to get the ball out that

516
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Speaker 1: he felt confident putting the ball over the middle time

517
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Speaker 1: after time. But great vision, great vision and great ability

518
00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 1: to find the one on one matchups is what he does,

519
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Speaker 1: you know, coach. Obviously, Sam has been the face of

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00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:54,119
Speaker 1: the franchise UH for the last couple of years at USC.

521
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Speaker 1: Why is Sam worthy of being the number one overall

522
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Speaker 1: pick in the draft? Um? I think what he's going

523
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: to bring to the table everybody knows talent wise, but

524
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Speaker 1: what he brings to your team as far as a

525
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,880
Speaker 1: day to day professionalism. Um, to show everybody else what

526
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Speaker 1: it means to have great work ethic, to study the game,

527
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Speaker 1: be a master of your craft, a student of the game, um,

528
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Speaker 1: and then make the place, make the plays when it's

529
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Speaker 1: time to make the plays. You know, at the end

530
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Speaker 1: of the at the end of the day, great quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: win games. You know, you can say completion ratio, touchdown

532
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Speaker 1: interception ratio at the end of the day, they win

533
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Speaker 1: and they produce wins, Um, and that's what Sam did

534
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Speaker 1: for us. You know, we were one in three before

535
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Speaker 1: he was a starter, and then all of a sudden

536
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Speaker 1: we end up winning a Rose Bowl. You know, we

537
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,640
Speaker 1: haven't want to pack twelve titles since two thousand and eight.

538
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 1: He leads us to our first one since then. So

539
00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,159
Speaker 1: he's he's that type of guy. He's got the it

540
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 1: factor that UM you want at the position, and he's

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Speaker 1: got the leadership capabilities to lead everybody in the franchise.

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Speaker 1: Last question for me, coach Um, when we look at

543
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Speaker 1: the great quarterbacks at the NFL level, UM, I always

544
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,439
Speaker 1: just use the word extra. It's not a nine to

545
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,520
Speaker 1: five profession. As you know, you gotta be able to

546
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: do extra. Is there a story, maybe an example you

547
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: can give us about Sam something during his time at

548
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 1: USC where he want a little above and beyond what

549
00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: was what was called of him. Yeah, I'll give you

550
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 1: one right now. He's he's last last week that here's

551
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 1: a guy getting ready to be drafted, possible first round

552
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: first pick taken in the draft, and and I show

553
00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,159
Speaker 1: up at Dan six thirty am in the morning and

554
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 1: he's already down there working out in our turf room

555
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: and I said, what are you doing? But he said, Coach,

556
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 1: it's every day now, it's every day. I said, uh,

557
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 1: he goes and I look and he's working with our guys.

558
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 1: Are are our strengthen conditioning coaches, and you know, just

559
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: he could have any any trainer in the world be

560
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: able to help him. He's right here just being blue

561
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: collar and ding and working just like he's known to

562
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,719
Speaker 1: do his whole life and nothing. That's the beauty of

563
00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: who that guy is. And that's what I told him.

564
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,639
Speaker 1: I said, man, you never check aimes and that's what

565
00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 1: makes you so special. You know, the whole world's watching

566
00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:05,920
Speaker 1: you and you're still keeping the great and the best

567
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: blue collar mentality there is, so you can be great

568
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: and so, uh, he's a special, special dude. Well, I

569
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:13,760
Speaker 1: asked for an example, and you gave me one within

570
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Speaker 1: the last week. That's a big time, coach. Thank you

571
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,359
Speaker 1: so much for taking some time for us today. We

572
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Alrighty guys, y'all take care buck. One

573
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Speaker 1: of the things that Coach Helton mentioned there, you know,

574
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Speaker 1: from his time at USC with Sam Narld that stood

575
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,159
Speaker 1: out to me. It's just he's the same guy. You

576
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,040
Speaker 1: know exactly what you're buying and on on an evaluation.

577
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: When you're the personnel business, there's nothing helps you sleep

578
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: better at night more than knowing you're buying something with

579
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 1: clear packaging. I know exactly what I'm buying. I know

580
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:41,480
Speaker 1: the good, I know the bad, but there's no surprises. Yeah,

581
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 1: because it's easy to build a team around that guy.

582
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 1: The guy that is consistent wherever that consistent level is

583
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: is easy to build a team around that because you

584
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 1: know how to support him, how to compliment him, how

585
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 1: to elevate his play. I think the other thing that

586
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,879
Speaker 1: Clay Helton talked about, Sam Donald gives his teammates hope.

587
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: Anytime you have a franchise quarterback does a level of

588
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: optimism that exists in permeas throughout the team. Sam Donald

589
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: brings that to the field because they have enough examples

590
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: of him bringing them back and so the team always

591
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,399
Speaker 1: believes and they are a rally behind the guy that

592
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,639
Speaker 1: has proven that he can get it done. That's a

593
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: powerful four letter word there of the word hope, and

594
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: that's that's definitely what Sam Donald has given USC over

595
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: the last couple of years. UH one of the people

596
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:25,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk to here is maybe not as big

597
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 1: of a fan of of Sam Donald as coach Helton.

598
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: That's because he had to go up against him twice

599
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: over the last two years. That's the rival school U

600
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Speaker 1: c l A have their own quarterback there in Josh Rosen,

601
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: which you can hear Coach Mora give his thoughts on

602
00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: the u c l A signal caller on the Josh

603
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 1: Rosen three sixty. But right now I've got a chance

604
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: to catch up with him and ask him about his

605
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,920
Speaker 1: adversary across town. Sam Donald, You've faced so many great

606
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,680
Speaker 1: quarterbacks throughout your career in the NFL and your time

607
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 1: in college. One of the ones that we expect to

608
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,080
Speaker 1: be high pick in this upcoming draft is Sam Donald.

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Speaker 1: First of all, just you remember the first time you

610
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: went up against him and the challenge that he presented

611
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Speaker 1: in a game. Plans standpoint, Yeah, I do, yeah, very much.

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00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 1: So you know, uh, a couple of years ago it

613
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: was in the Rose Bowl and uh, you know, you're

614
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: seeing this this young man that has uh the tremendous

615
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: ability to keep a play alive. And there was so

616
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 1: many times and it was a close game for a while,

617
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,359
Speaker 1: and there were so many times that we felt like,

618
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: you know, we had him, we have him corraled, and

619
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, he slips out and he

620
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: makes a throw down the field for a first down.

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Speaker 1: Or it's third and four and you're playing man coverage

622
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,240
Speaker 1: and you're locking him up and you're in pretty good

623
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 1: shape and you feel like the rush is about to

624
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 1: get there, and then he goes for five yards and

625
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 1: they moved the sticks, and I can remember just being

626
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,479
Speaker 1: terribly frustrated during that game. I can remember, you know,

627
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: going into that game thinking, you know, we're not gonna

628
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: spy him. I don't like that, we're gonna cover him.

629
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Speaker 1: We're gonna sign a defensive back to actually cover the quarterback.

630
00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: And and yet he would still make those plays because

631
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 1: he was gifted enough, and he was agile enough, and

632
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 1: he was I think aware enough, and his vision was

633
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 1: such that he could go find the opening to get

634
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: the first down. Quarterbacks are like super heroes, and Sam

635
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:05,440
Speaker 1: Donald is a little bit like Superman. As the defensive coordinator,

636
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: what would you say his kryptonite is when you're mapping

637
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 1: up a game plan, probably at this point, at this

638
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,239
Speaker 1: point right now, if you make him throw from the

639
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: pocket as a pure pocket passer and put it right

640
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 1: on the money. That's probably what it is. But I

641
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: also think that's something that he will work through. Anybody

642
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: that he reminds you of over the years haven't gone

643
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: up against it, you see, maybe from a from a

644
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 1: playmaking standpoint or stylistically. I've thrown out the Tony Romo comparison.

645
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: Is who he reminds me of. He's kind of built

646
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: like Tony. I can see that some of that kind

647
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: of Romo magic when the play breaks, I can see

648
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 1: that I can see a little Brett Farve without the

649
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: heat on the ball, you know, his ability to kind

650
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: of improvise. But I do like the Tony Romo comparison. Um,

651
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: But I think he's unique. You know, he's a very

652
00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 1: serious young man. I've gotten to be to spend some

653
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: time with him, and I'm very impressed with it with

654
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: him and his character. Do you remember him going back

655
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:56,959
Speaker 1: to high school at Saint Clementi High School? I know,

656
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: but you had Josh in the bag, so that was done.

657
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,880
Speaker 1: I mean that you had the top quarterback in the country,

658
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,760
Speaker 1: so I don't imagine you spend much time recruiting Sam

659
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 1: du Well. I think Sam, you know, it was an

660
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: early commit to USC. You know, San clemented guy and

661
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: and committed to them, and we were, you know, in

662
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: pretty heavy with Josh and so um. You know, we

663
00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: didn't spend a ton of time on Sam. It just

664
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: felt like, you know, he was going to go to USC,

665
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 1: and we were very very hopeful that Josh was gonna

666
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: come to U c. L A. And uh, you know,

667
00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: I think this will be a rivalry between these two

668
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 1: guys that will go on for a long time. Would

669
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 1: be fun to watch. Who knows, it might end up

670
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,080
Speaker 1: in New York, might have the Jets and the Giants,

671
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: at least two guys in the same city, just on

672
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: the opposite side of the country. Hey, thank you so much, coach,

673
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,360
Speaker 1: appreciate your time, my pleasure. Yeah, you can even tell

674
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 1: just just talking to coach more there. I think he

675
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: likes Sam Donald a lot. I don't think he liked

676
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,720
Speaker 1: playing against him. No, it's a challenge. He talked about

677
00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: how challenging he is to defend because the guy can

678
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: make plays not only on schedule, but all schedule, those

679
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: off platform throws, those second reaction plays that he's able

680
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: to make outside of the pocket that really stresses the defense,

681
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,040
Speaker 1: and so he has your ministed amount of respect for

682
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 1: the player, but also the guy that he is is

683
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: he just appears to be kind of dead blue collar

684
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 1: worker that you wanted to position. All right. I called

685
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,920
Speaker 1: this next guest the Caretaker of Quarterbacks. Trent Dilfer has

686
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 1: been running the Elite eleven show for a while. Now

687
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: you work with him, Buck, He's got unique insight into

688
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks and had some real fascinating things to say

689
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: about Sam Donald sixth overall pick the Night Draft. But

690
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: really he's kind of the caretaker of quarterbacks. Is the

691
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: official title that I'm giving him here. Trent. How you doing, man,

692
00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: I'm doing great, guys. Fun to be with both of you. Well,

693
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 1: we we're looking forward to this conversation. I want to

694
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: first at the top here somebody going through that process

695
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 1: when you first became familiar with him. I know he

696
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,240
Speaker 1: was kind of a late bloomer, having played another position

697
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: there at Saint Clementi before moving to quarterback. But how

698
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: about him? You talked about being able to learn about

699
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: them as as sixteen seventeen year olds, how they think,

700
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: how they interact, how they lead, are they grinders, What

701
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,280
Speaker 1: did you learn about the young version of Sam Donald

702
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 1: natural and everything that he does. The first tape I

703
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 1: ever saw on Sam was in football tape. It was

704
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: high school basketball. They he had broken his ankle three

705
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: games into his junior year at San Clemente, and Uh,

706
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,479
Speaker 1: there wasn't a lot of junior football tape on him.

707
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: He played a different position the year before. Uh. And

708
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: then Joey Roberts, who both of you know very well,

709
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 1: our director scouting the lead eleven um, had set me

710
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: one night, late one night, a link to his basketball

711
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 1: huddle film and he said, hey, you gotta check this

712
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: get out. And at the time Sam, I don't think

713
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: Sam had any offers. You can check with him, but

714
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: I don't think he had any offers. He was really

715
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: low on a lot of people's radar. And I watched

716
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: him play basketball and I said, whoa, this is a

717
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: And again it wasn't. It's not like I was watching

718
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan's play. But for what my eye was looking for,

719
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,040
Speaker 1: the natural body movement, the body controlled, the competitiveness, the

720
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 1: sacrifice for his team. He covered the point, he covered

721
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: the post, He dribble a cross over, step back, he

722
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: took into the hole, he dished, he ran the floor.

723
00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:00,040
Speaker 1: He truly was everything you're looking for UM as a

724
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: competitor as well as an athlete. Uh. And I said, hey,

725
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: if if this kid can throw it at all, and

726
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: if he's coachable, and this is what we're looking for.

727
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 1: And as we went through the spring and end up

728
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: trying out in May and in Oakland, it was obvious

729
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: after about five balls that he threw that this was

730
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,080
Speaker 1: going to be a special prospect. Because remember you're looking

731
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: for kids. The kids that have high ceilings are the

732
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 1: ones that haven't been overtrained at sixteen, seventeen years old,

733
00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: so you can kind of get a fuel for their

734
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: raw traits UM. But also you could say, wow, this

735
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: is a great piece of clay, and if you could

736
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: mold this kid the right way, the ceiling is exponentially high.

737
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: And that's how we felt about Sam. Now, he hadn't

738
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: played a lot of football, He did not have the

739
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: greatest elite eleven UM experienced. Well, he had a great experience,

740
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: didn't have the greatest of lead level performance we've ever seen, UM,

741
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: but he grew every rep he took the coaching. I mean,

742
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: that's when him and Jordan Palmer really developed this special

743
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: relationship that exists today is is JP saw the same

744
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 1: thing we all did it and kind of took him

745
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: under his wing. And and uh, you can just and

746
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: I still see the growth that's there, Like he hasn't

747
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: even come close to tapping into his potential. That's why

748
00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 1: I really believe he's kind of a I've used this

749
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: term of transcendent type talent, you know, training list, continue

750
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 1: to build upon day. Because you're right, he hasn't played

751
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: a lot of football. He's only played four or five

752
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: years of real quarterbacking. And so when you're kind of

753
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,320
Speaker 1: gambling on Sam Donald, you're gambling more on the guy.

754
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit more about the guy that

755
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 1: Sam Donald is. Yeah, and that's probably the biggest thing

756
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:38,760
Speaker 1: about him. Um, he's got that California cool vibe to

757
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 1: him that both you guys can appreciate that kind of

758
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 1: makes everybody feel better and play better. Uh, he's got

759
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: this calming effect. Nothing is ever too big, uh, And

760
00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: nothing is too big. So as you forecast that out

761
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: to the NFL and you're talking massive markets and huge

762
00:33:56,640 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: media attention and pressure and scrutiny, that kind of stuff

763
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 1: doesn't really change him at all, But the lows aren't

764
00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: low either. He has this great ability to kind of

765
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: brush off whatever bad happens um and move forward and

766
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: uses a teaching opportunity. I think he's got a term

767
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: what we use a lot with the younger guys is

768
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: he has a quiet mind. The mind is never going

769
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: so fast that he gets out ahead of himself. He's

770
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: kind of in the moment um. He's able to process

771
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 1: things as they come. Uh. He's a very gifted leader.

772
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 1: Go back to when he was a freshman. He stepped

773
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: on USC's campus and they had two really good quarterbacks

774
00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: on campus. Yet everything you ever heard about was about

775
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 1: Sam Donald. Because the team, which as we know, is

776
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,760
Speaker 1: made up of a bunch of different people from a

777
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 1: bunch of different cultural backgrounds, a bunch of different belief systems.

778
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 1: It's hard to go in and immediately have everybody on

779
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: your team gravitate towards you. Well, he was that guy

780
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:01,720
Speaker 1: at eighteen year is old. So he has that natural

781
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: leadership ability. Um, and I think he's got an incredible

782
00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 1: first to learn. I don't think his football i Q

783
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: right now is exceptional. I think he would tell you that,

784
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: but he has the capacity to have an exceptional football

785
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,719
Speaker 1: I q because of his ability to learn. I know

786
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,240
Speaker 1: what Jordan's done with him in this pre draft process

787
00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: and how much he's challenged him, and how much Sam

788
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: has bought into it. I know the little that I spent,

789
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: the time I spent with him and challenged him to

790
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,400
Speaker 1: learn some stuff. Uh. He really um grabbed whole of

791
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,799
Speaker 1: it and embraced it. Uh. And that's that's why I

792
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: think his ceiling is so high, because he's gonna be

793
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: a guy that continues to improve every single week in

794
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: the midst of an NFL season, and what you get

795
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: day one when you draft him is gonna be very

796
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 1: different than what you have two years later. Trent. Look,

797
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: I've been on wreck for a long time. I think

798
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: he's the best one in this draft. But there are

799
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 1: no perfect prospects. As you know, everybody has things they

800
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:57,959
Speaker 1: continue to work on. Uh. Interceptions I don't really care about.

801
00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 1: That doesn't bother me. He functions more in the middle

802
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 1: of the field, and a lot of these quarterbacks that

803
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: you study at the college level. The fumbels, on the

804
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 1: other hand, are are a legitimate concern and a legitimate issue.

805
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: Are you with me on that one? Yeah? They're driving

806
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,400
Speaker 1: me crazy. Um, it's really the only thing. And he

807
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,280
Speaker 1: hasn't fixed it, which bothers me. Um, And I actually

808
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 1: got worse. He's careless with the ball in the pocket,

809
00:36:18,239 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: he takes two, he takes his hands off of it,

810
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: he does the old damn Marino you know, lifted up

811
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:29,280
Speaker 1: over defenders thing. Um, he's got to fix it. But again,

812
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 1: that wouldn't stop me from trusting that I'm going to

813
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: get a unique quarterback prospect. Also, I think it's a

814
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: it's a topic of conversation. It's a real one. Um.

815
00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: But if you take up the thirty layers of quarterbacking,

816
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 1: it's one of the few columns he has a minus in. Um.

817
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: It's something he needs to be very, very aware of.

818
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: If I was his coach, it would be the first

819
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: thing I started harping on. How do you drill that?

820
00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: How do you drill it? How do you drill that?

821
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 1: Is very easy to drill? Actually, I mean it's this

822
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: conscious you know, you have a coach. That's why we

823
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: have quarterback coaches, right that they're not the ones developing

824
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: the game plans. They're not calling the plays. They're there

825
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 1: to develop the quarterback. And you put those eyes on

826
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: Sam every snap he takes, and you remind him every

827
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 1: time he takes his left hand off the ball. Uh,

828
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 1: there are drills that you can do where you start,

829
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: and I can show it because we're here. A lot

830
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:27,240
Speaker 1: of what quarterbacks do is when they move in the pocket,

831
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,440
Speaker 1: they get what we call the quarterback death position, where

832
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: they face the line of scrimmage and they take their

833
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 1: hands off the ball. So everybody watching this goes, oh, yeah,

834
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: I've seen my quarterback do that. That's the quarterback death position.

835
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: What we've really stolen. I've stole this because I was

836
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: terrible at it from Tom Brady especially, and some of

837
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: the grades of the game have incorporated. As you start

838
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: using your chest to protect the ball, so as you

839
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 1: move in the pocket, you dip your shoulders and use

840
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: your shoulders to protect the football, so you never get

841
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 1: into this position. You're constantly moving in the pocket, in

842
00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: this position where you're bobbing and weaving using your big muscles,

843
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: your shoulders, your paths to protect that football. It also

844
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: allows you to be more accurate too, because now when

845
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,440
Speaker 1: you reset and you go to throw, you're in that

846
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: presentation position, that position you want to be in. So

847
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: the ball can load properly, where if you're like this

848
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: and you're playing around or you're taking your hands on well,

849
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: now you got to bring it back to the ball,

850
00:38:26,560 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: load the ball and throw, which takes more time. So

851
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: that's where I was starting. I'd be throwing, you know,

852
00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:36,319
Speaker 1: pool noodles at them, and swift balls and anything that

853
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 1: my owner allowed me to throw them, I'd throw at him.

854
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: I'd have people swiping at the ball. I'd have you know,

855
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: he'd be carrying a ball in the hallways. I mean,

856
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 1: I'm crazy with this stuff, so I'd be It would

857
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: be the first thing he thought about when he woke

858
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: up and the last thing he thought about before I

859
00:38:51,800 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: went to bed. He Trent, I want to ask you

860
00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 1: one last question on Donald because you have the unique perspective,

861
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 1: because a lot of what I see in Sam Donald's

862
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: aim is he's super competitive and he doesn't know when

863
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: to give up on a play, and he kind of

864
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: reminds me of another guy that we had at Elite eleven,

865
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 1: Jamis Winston, in terms of like when they go for it,

866
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,200
Speaker 1: they go and they're feeless and they don't back down

867
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: whatever you've coached. Both guys are there some unique similarities

868
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: in terms of the way they approached the game or

869
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: the way they go about their business. So Buck, just

870
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 1: so DJ knows this and the people listening to this,

871
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: we've never had this conversation. No, never a h agree

872
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 1: with you. They're the same makeup of all the guy.

873
00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: If I were to take two guys are most alike

874
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: over the eight years we've been doing this from a

875
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 1: competitive makeup standpoint, would be Jamis and Sam, and I

876
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:46,920
Speaker 1: would say that of their makeup is awesome that you're

877
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: talking about that. I will never quit, i will never stop.

878
00:39:50,160 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: I'm relentless, i will run through the wall. I'll do

879
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 1: anything for my team. Like I said, a lot of

880
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 1: that is good. A lot of that ends up being

881
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 1: turns into add plays. Brett Farve, Dan Marino, John Elway, Uh,

882
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:12,239
Speaker 1: Drew brees Is younger days at San Diego, um Uh,

883
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,640
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning. I mean just basically, go the Hall of

884
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: Fame and most of the guys had to say makeup

885
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: early on, and that's where coaching all these conversations and

886
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: go back to coaching. That is the burden of the

887
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: coach to take this. And Mike Hombrun was the best

888
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,400
Speaker 1: in my opinion at this and be patient with it early.

889
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 1: But make sure that quarterback understands that you better fix

890
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: this because there's jobs in this building, the secretaries, all

891
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 1: the coaches, the equipment guys, the training staff, everybody that's

892
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: depending on you fixing this stuff. Eventually you're harnessing this

893
00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: competitive temperament um. But boys, did a good problem to

894
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,799
Speaker 1: having dur an organization that you're only dealing with of

895
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: chaos instead of Hey, trying and we know you're busy, man,

896
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for taking some time. We can

897
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,680
Speaker 1: do this for another hour and a half. Easy, always

898
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 1: fun to be with you guys. Well there you have it, buck,

899
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 1: really good stuff there from Trent Dilferd. And look, we

900
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: could talk to him for hours and hours and hours

901
00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:17,680
Speaker 1: just about the fundamentals of the game. But he's he's

902
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,640
Speaker 1: got a front row seat for these quarterbacks at a

903
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: very young age and has a great insight, does a

904
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: great job, does a great job of working with young

905
00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 1: quarterbacks and really filling them with the right stuff. I

906
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,479
Speaker 1: think his insight and perspective on Sam Donald is really

907
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:32,719
Speaker 1: really unique. He was able to see a guy who

908
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: hadn't played a lot of football at quarterback, and then

909
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,760
Speaker 1: they were able to elevate him, give Hi an opportunity

910
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 1: to go to a leader love and by all accounts,

911
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 1: he didn't perform well on that stage, but he's continued

912
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 1: to maintain that relationship and a lot of what he

913
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 1: speaks to about Sam Donald is his ability to just

914
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 1: believe in the guy, and I think in everything. When

915
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: you're a personnel guy, sometimes the guy that is sitting

916
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: across you just want to lick in his eyes and

917
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: just kind of get a sense that, look, this dude's

918
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,719
Speaker 1: gonna do everything. If he can't get it done, it's

919
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,839
Speaker 1: gonna because he just tries and it just doesn't work.

920
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 1: It's not because he's not gonna put at all. I

921
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: think when you hear people continue to talk about Sam Donald,

922
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 1: you get this instead. This guy is going to be

923
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,759
Speaker 1: an all the nothing guy. He's gonna be all in

924
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 1: and if it doesn't work, is not going to be

925
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 1: due to a lack of effort. To kind of paraphrase it,

926
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,879
Speaker 1: wired the right way. Absolutely, what you talked to says

927
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 1: this guy is wired the right way. And in that

928
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: interview there, Trent Dilford did mention JP, that's Jordan Palmer

929
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: who spent a lot of time training Sam Donald only

930
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 1: for the Combine, even prior to that in last offseason,

931
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: spent some time working with him, really took him under

932
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 1: his wing and a great person to talk to about

933
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 1: the USC quarterback. Alright, Bucky, I'm excited to be joined

934
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: by Jordan Palmer, seven years in the NFL as a

935
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: quarterback six round pick coming out of UTEP. I've threatened

936
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: him that I will release the report that I wrote

937
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: a scout at some point in time. But no, no,

938
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: he isn't shaking his head now. He doesn't want that.

939
00:42:49,840 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 1: It wasn't It wouldn't be as bad as my report

940
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: would have been. JP. Hey, thank you so much for

941
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 1: taking some time. You're training two of the top quarterbacks

942
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 1: in this draft class, and Josh Allen and Sam Donald.

943
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: Let's start first with Sam. Here. The first time that

944
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: you saw Sam I know you guys kind of live

945
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 1: or grew up in the same area. What was the

946
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: first time you were even aware of Sam Donald? Well,

947
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,919
Speaker 1: you know it was It was actually at the camp

948
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 1: um of a guy I used to train with, Bob Bazenco,

949
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,000
Speaker 1: and I was playing in the league at the time,

950
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: and so I you know, I'd go back and throw

951
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: all the time at any you know, anybody had a

952
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: camp going on. I go throw at the high school

953
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: kids and hop in. It was fun and it was

954
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 1: funny because I saw Sam and the coach I was

955
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: with he grew up around Carson and I when we

956
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 1: were little, and I'm like, that dude over there looks

957
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: exactly like Carson at that age. Not talent wise, I

958
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,279
Speaker 1: wasn't saying I saw it at an early age, just

959
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,279
Speaker 1: literally he looked like him, he walked like him, he

960
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: was wearing like scrubby basketball gear like my brother did.

961
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:44,240
Speaker 1: And then two years later he's in the Elite eleven

962
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: and it's like, man, this I totally still looks like Carson,

963
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 1: acts like Carson. And then all of a sudden he

964
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,000
Speaker 1: goes to sc and and he's positioned to be the

965
00:43:51,080 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: number one pick. So it's been really ironic, but it's

966
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: also been really fun to be a part of his journey.

967
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 1: You know. Speaking of that journey, he was a guy

968
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: that played other positions before moving to quarterback. What is

969
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: the biggest challenge of kind of growing into position when

970
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: you haven't been I guess a lifelong quarterback, you know,

971
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: with Sam playing other positions and actually other sports, because

972
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: he was a really really good basketball player in high school.

973
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: I think what it does is it contributes to just

974
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: the foundation of your competitive temperament. You know, when you

975
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: have to to beat people at not just quarterback, you

976
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,600
Speaker 1: have to beat people in other positions, other sports. I

977
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,480
Speaker 1: think it rounds you out. And you know, there's a

978
00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: kid who's just incredibly competitive. He's cool and he's calm,

979
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: he's a nice guy, and his friends like him. But

980
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: when this duds on the field, I mean he's I mean,

981
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: he's looking to take people's lunch and um, and he's

982
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 1: just been that way since high school. Uh, and then

983
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: the last two years getting an opportunity to play early. Um,

984
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:42,319
Speaker 1: now getting an opportunity to leave early and play in

985
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: the NFL at a very young age. That competitive temperament

986
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: is going to be a really important foundation for him

987
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: to have. And and I think playing other sports but

988
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: another positions was the way that he was able to

989
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: develop it. Obviously, because your brother, you know what it's

990
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:57,360
Speaker 1: like playing that fish bowl as the quarterback of USC, especially,

991
00:44:57,719 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: you know when the NFL not being here. Now the

992
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,799
Speaker 1: NFL has come back, but even so USC has kind

993
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,439
Speaker 1: of always been identified as as Southern California's professional football team.

994
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,359
Speaker 1: For those that don't know just how much pressure was

995
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: on Sam coming off of a Rose Bowl went over

996
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,799
Speaker 1: Penn State and what he played in the Fish Bowl,

997
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 1: so to speak. This year, Yeah, you know, it's really Uh,

998
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: this is my second year doing this. When I say this,

999
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: I mean training the dude that's the face of college football.

1000
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 1: Not the face of all the starters, of the face

1001
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: of the program. That's fine, um, But two years ago

1002
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: to Seawan after the national championship loss, he was the

1003
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 1: face of college football. This past year, Sam was the

1004
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: face of college football. What ends up happening is unrealistic

1005
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,399
Speaker 1: expectations to get placed on these guys. Where if Sam

1006
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: would have had the most historic year and in USC history,

1007
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 1: we'd still talk about that pick that he threw and

1008
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: that fumble that he had and that drive that they

1009
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,120
Speaker 1: still sputtered out on and it's just unrealistic. You know,

1010
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: Deshaun people are talking about how he's struggling going into

1011
00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: his junior year. I mean, the dude almost won the

1012
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: Heisman and one a national championship. Sam, you know, the

1013
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: other way, what about this? What about uh? He threw

1014
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 1: from more yards and us than anybody in USC history,

1015
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,880
Speaker 1: I mean in a great year. And so it's the

1016
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: expectations get so high. And then with l A, it's

1017
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: just like I live out here, this is like the

1018
00:46:10,160 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: bandwagon city and you know they didn't even sell out

1019
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: games this year, and you know, the expectations get so

1020
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 1: high that it's great for me to go through this

1021
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,319
Speaker 1: experience with these guys because it'll be Jared stead Up

1022
00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: next year. Um, where you just cannot worry about that

1023
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,799
Speaker 1: stuff and whate that's valuable is when you get picked hie,

1024
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 1: it's gonna be the same thing. It's gonna be unrealistic,

1025
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: unrealistic expectations. So the fact that Sam got a whole

1026
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: last offseason of everybody putting them on every magazine and

1027
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: every podcast and every show talking about how greaty like,

1028
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: it was great for him to have to go through that,

1029
00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: learned that it doesn't matter and just focus on the ball.

1030
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 1: You have a unique perspective because your brother was at

1031
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: number one overall pick uh, he had to deal with

1032
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: those expectations coming out of USC and having to be

1033
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: the face of the franchise. Eventually, he was in a

1034
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,399
Speaker 1: situation where you got a chance to sit four years

1035
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: behind Jack getting before he played. Would it be beneficial

1036
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,320
Speaker 1: for Sam to have a similar situation where he doesn't

1037
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 1: have to jump in right away and play and then

1038
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: become the face of the franchise in year two. Yeah,

1039
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 1: for sure. And and honestly, my answer to this question

1040
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: is for every single rookie quarterback for the rest of

1041
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 1: them their lives. Like, I always think it's beneficial to sit. Um.

1042
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: There's not enough programs in college football who run the

1043
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: same stuff. I mean, I think there's like one or two.

1044
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: I mean, Bucky, we see this at the opening all

1045
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 1: the time. The guys and you know and college guys

1046
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: come back and you have a conversation, You're like, man,

1047
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: that's the best running back in college football. I can't

1048
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: believe how much he doesn't know. So with this, like

1049
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: I always think it's beneficial. I think Pat Mahomes is

1050
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 1: in a great spot now. The cool thing about the uh,

1051
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 1: you know, Sam and Josh is I think these guys

1052
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: are talented enough and they're poised enough where if they

1053
00:47:49,040 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 1: have to play early, they'll probably play well. So I

1054
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 1: felt the same way about Shaun Watson last year, you know,

1055
00:47:53,239 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: and En they're playing great. UM. But I always think

1056
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,799
Speaker 1: it's beneficial. You know, you get to sit and you

1057
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: can learn from other people's mistakes. UM. And so depending

1058
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,400
Speaker 1: on what Cleveland does, the other teams and wherever it's

1059
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: Sam and Josh end Up UM. You know, if they're

1060
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:07,160
Speaker 1: in a position where they can sit and watch and

1061
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: learn on someone else's behalf UM, and it's always beneficial

1062
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,040
Speaker 1: I think to sit. With that being said, you know,

1063
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get them ready to play. When you

1064
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,240
Speaker 1: watch Sam mechanically, what was the checklist you put together

1065
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: for when he showed up to start training to get

1066
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: ready for the draft? Were starting to focus on well,

1067
00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 1: you know, last offseason we focused on that loop UM

1068
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 1: him dropping the ball down low, and we determined that

1069
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: really about thirty two thirty five yards when he's driving it, Uh,

1070
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: he'll drop that ball a little lower. UM. And it's psychological.

1071
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 1: It's because there's something in you that makes you feel

1072
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: like I have to do this. And we were able

1073
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,320
Speaker 1: to to be able to figure out a way for

1074
00:48:42,440 --> 00:48:43,880
Speaker 1: him to to not have to worry about that, So

1075
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,759
Speaker 1: that loop got a little smaller last offseason. I also

1076
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: talked to enough teams and enough experts like Trent Dilford

1077
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: where it doesn't bother anybody. This offseason, because he made

1078
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: so many off schedule throws, he would have a tendency

1079
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,319
Speaker 1: to get hunched in his shoulders. And that may not

1080
00:48:58,360 --> 00:48:59,879
Speaker 1: seem like a big deal, but when you get hunched

1081
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: your shoulders, you end up not using your pack muscles.

1082
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:05,080
Speaker 1: So when you go to throw, you end up not

1083
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: recruiting all those chest muscles, which means you're gonna be

1084
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: throwing with more of your arm than you need to.

1085
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: And so by relaxing his traps and working on his posture,

1086
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,799
Speaker 1: he's been able to recruit the muscles on the front

1087
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: half of his body, which means he's using less of

1088
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 1: his arms. That was one. The other thing is um,

1089
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,120
Speaker 1: it's just the footwork. You know, they did a lot

1090
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:26,040
Speaker 1: of different drops at sc UM, but they're they're pretty casual.

1091
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 1: You know, he was able to be pretty casual because

1092
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: he was had a lot of lightnment hurt. You know,

1093
00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: he had to move around a lot. When you do that,

1094
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 1: you end up getting pretty inconsistent with your drops, which

1095
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: is David something we've talked about um and and so

1096
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: going through that process, those two things is what we've

1097
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: been hammering. This is the last one from me here, JP.

1098
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 1: Let's let's go best case scenario five years from now.

1099
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: What does that look like? You know, it's hard for

1100
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: me to sit here and compare where these guys are

1101
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,799
Speaker 1: gonna be because it totally depends on the organization they

1102
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: go to. Right, I haven't seen a guy I mean,

1103
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: or I've seen guys like to show maybe last year

1104
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: we're like, were these teammates where I go, hey, what

1105
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: do you think of Sam? And they need to pause

1106
00:50:05,640 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: and they go, listen, this is my guy. There's a

1107
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: guy who can rally a locker room and he's twenty

1108
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,840
Speaker 1: so that's gonna be important. You know, he's a young dude,

1109
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: and and that's gonna be important. And this is gonna

1110
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: be a guy for the next five years. Who um

1111
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: is a highlight reel because he's so good off schedule,

1112
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,919
Speaker 1: he's so accurate, he's so consistent off schedule, moving around,

1113
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: buying time in the pocket. Dude ran a four eight

1114
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: and it's just he doesn't run a four It on

1115
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,920
Speaker 1: tape in the pocket. And this is gonna be a

1116
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 1: guy who's who's just in those moments. And we saw

1117
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: in the Rods. But we saw in the Big Games,

1118
00:50:36,239 --> 00:50:38,919
Speaker 1: even Texas coming back at the end. He's just gonna

1119
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 1: be one of those guys. I think his reputation and

1120
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: this is we're recording this, so this is perfect. His

1121
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: reputation is going to be that big moment, that big

1122
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: game guy where he always comes through UM, and he's

1123
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: gonna do it in a way. But he's just gonna

1124
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:52,839
Speaker 1: be an easy guy to be a fan of. I

1125
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 1: love it. Hey, I know you're busy, man. Thank you

1126
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: so much for taking some time. Let's let's catch up

1127
00:50:57,239 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 1: again here before we get to the draft. My pleasure

1128
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 1: us guys. Alright, Black Jordan Palmer JP some great insight

1129
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: there on Sam Doin. If you haven't listened to the

1130
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: Josh Allen three six, he had some great things to

1131
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: say on Josh Allen as well. Yeah, JP has a

1132
00:51:10,520 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: unique perspective. UM. A lot of times he ends up

1133
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: beating these guys along the way on the Elite eleven tour,

1134
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:19,240
Speaker 1: and so his insight in terms of really really annoying

1135
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 1: the kid is a little deeper than some other guys.

1136
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: And I think with Sam, he really has a great

1137
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: connection on him, and I think he has done a

1138
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: really really good job of trying to bring out all

1139
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: of this stuff that he needs to have to be

1140
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 1: a franchise quarter man, trying to find a way just

1141
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 1: unlock that potential that Sam Donald has. But great insight

1142
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: not only on the player, but the person there from JP.

1143
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: Really appreciate him joining the show here. Well, let's not

1144
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: waste any more time. Let's get to our conversation with

1145
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,440
Speaker 1: the man himself. Here's our chat with Sam Donald. Sam,

1146
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 1: first question, I want to ask you because we put

1147
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: out a video of some of your basketball Uh, I

1148
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: would say exploits. Yeah, we'll go ahead and throw that

1149
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: out there. I need you to grade yourself as a

1150
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 1: basketball player. We'll get to the football stuff in a minute. Um,

1151
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,799
Speaker 1: on what scale, because no, it could bury based on

1152
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: what scale we're judging off. Well, let's go off of

1153
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:14,600
Speaker 1: the good high school basketball player skill. Okay, I would

1154
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,880
Speaker 1: say I was above average. Um, you know, I'm definitely

1155
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 1: I had some looks. Actually my sophomore year, I had

1156
00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: some looks locally here. Um, and they were going to

1157
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 1: offer you some scholarship. But um, you know, once I

1158
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:32,120
Speaker 1: got hurt in football and I gained some weight. Uh once,

1159
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 1: but I broke my foot and decided that football is

1160
00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 1: you know, going to be the route for me. And uh,

1161
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: that's when you know, I I still I continued to

1162
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: play basketball, but I think my best year playing was

1163
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: my sophomore year in high school. You know, Sam, is

1164
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: unique that you played multiple sports as a quarterback. What

1165
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 1: did you learn from playing basketball? Did it say do

1166
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 1: you play quarterback? Um? I would just say all the

1167
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:00,760
Speaker 1: functional movement just and also I mean to be honest

1168
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: with you guys, that and not that I was ever

1169
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: going to burn out on football, but it was just

1170
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,280
Speaker 1: a nice break. Um. It was good for my body

1171
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: as well to just be in basketball shape because obviously

1172
00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,879
Speaker 1: as a quarterback you're not running around a ton during

1173
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,439
Speaker 1: practice or during the game. So it was nice during

1174
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: that offseason to kind of play basketball and get in

1175
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: that shape that I need to be into. Um, be

1176
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: a be a you know, a good athlete and an

1177
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 1: athlete that I wanted to be for for football. So uh,

1178
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: I think you know, any any time you're able to

1179
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: play different sports, whether it's you know, basketball, baseball, um,

1180
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: even sports like golf. I mean, just all the different movements,

1181
00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,080
Speaker 1: UM help you out as an athlete. In my opinion, well,

1182
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: what much was talked about during your recruiting process and

1183
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 1: you kind of came up late in the process. We

1184
00:53:47,719 --> 00:53:51,000
Speaker 1: had Trent Dilferran and talk to Trent about your journey

1185
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: and your experience there at the Elite eleven. But what

1186
00:53:53,719 --> 00:53:56,439
Speaker 1: went into your recruiting there? How hot was it early?

1187
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 1: When did it pick up? And when did you know

1188
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna go to USC. Yeah. So, so my sophomore year,

1189
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,719
Speaker 1: I played linebacker and receiver for eight games and then

1190
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: the last two games actually, so the seventh game of

1191
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: the season or the eighth game of the season, the

1192
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: senior quarterback ends up breaking his collar bone, and so

1193
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:19,400
Speaker 1: I had to go in there and play quarterbacks for

1194
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,839
Speaker 1: the last two games of the season, and UM ended

1195
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 1: up doing pretty well. We won one, we lost one,

1196
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 1: and uh didn't make any any type of playoffs or anything.

1197
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: But off of that film and then off of you know,

1198
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 1: the practice that they came and watched, Utah offered me

1199
00:54:34,080 --> 00:54:37,000
Speaker 1: a scholarship UM and that was the only scholarship that

1200
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,919
Speaker 1: I had for a while. That was the summer going

1201
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:44,000
Speaker 1: into my junior year, and then junior year, I was

1202
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 1: looking to have a breakout year, you know, starting starting

1203
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,360
Speaker 1: at quarterback and all that stuff and ended up breaking

1204
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: my foot the third game of my junior season, and

1205
00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 1: you know, it was just it was something I had

1206
00:54:57,880 --> 00:54:59,960
Speaker 1: to deal with and you know, some adversity that I've

1207
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: never dealt with in my life. And it really taught me.

1208
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:05,640
Speaker 1: Um taught me a lot about myself. And I learned

1209
00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,239
Speaker 1: a lot about myself that I but I don't think

1210
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:12,000
Speaker 1: I would have learned otherwise. So UM, after that, you know,

1211
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: I knew that I didn't have any tape. You know,

1212
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: colleges they only had two games worth the tape on me,

1213
00:55:17,600 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: and I knew that wasn't gonna be enough. So I

1214
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: ended up going to a regional in Oakland for Lead eleven.

1215
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: And going to camps was never really my thing. Uh.

1216
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:29,680
Speaker 1: I never really wanted to go to camps because I

1217
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: knew that was going to take time away from the

1218
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: basketball season, uh or the summer basketball training that I

1219
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: that I was gonna do this. So I ended up

1220
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,239
Speaker 1: going to this camp and ELDE eleven not really expecting anything. Uh,

1221
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: it wasn't really that high profile at all, and on

1222
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,480
Speaker 1: the spot just got the Elite eleven invite and I'm

1223
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,279
Speaker 1: not even kidding you. I think the day after that,

1224
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: I got I think like five scholarship offers, um, just

1225
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,799
Speaker 1: just from being invited to a lead eleven. So it

1226
00:55:56,840 --> 00:56:00,399
Speaker 1: really changed my life. UM, and I'm very ank full

1227
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 1: of obviously Jordan's the guys like Trent Dilford as well

1228
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,919
Speaker 1: for for inviting me to Relate eleven because it really

1229
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: did change my life and it picked up my recruiting

1230
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:14,000
Speaker 1: UM a lot. And then late, you know, late that summer,

1231
00:56:14,040 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: I end up getting offered by USC, and obviously you know,

1232
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: the rest is kind of history from there. You know, Sam,

1233
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: I think what's unique about your situation at USC. You

1234
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:24,800
Speaker 1: went there and there were some guys that were highly

1235
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:28,680
Speaker 1: touted ahead of you. Um. Can you discuss this situation

1236
00:56:28,719 --> 00:56:31,399
Speaker 1: in terms of just kind of put stick your nose

1237
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: to the grindstone and just out working everybody to finally

1238
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: get your opportunity to start a SC Yeah, I mean

1239
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:40,440
Speaker 1: I think it goes back to knowing that I was

1240
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: going to have to compete no matter where I went.

1241
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 1: H You know it was I knew that there was

1242
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: another quarterback committed in my same class, and you know,

1243
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: I went to AL eleven and um, you know I

1244
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 1: was watching all these quarterbacks throw and I really told myself,

1245
00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:58,200
Speaker 1: you know, I think I can compete with all of them. UM.

1246
00:56:58,239 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: I thought I was just as good or better than

1247
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:03,160
Speaker 1: all them. UM. And I had that you know, kind

1248
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 1: of quiet confidence about myself. And I knew that wherever

1249
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: I went, I was going to have an opportunity to start.

1250
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: Maybe not right away. I mean at SC, I knew

1251
00:57:10,600 --> 00:57:12,560
Speaker 1: that I was going to have to sit behind Cody

1252
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,840
Speaker 1: the first year, which I was perfectly fine with. UM

1253
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: that actually that allowed me to play my senior year

1254
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: basketball season. Uh, I was able to stay and I

1255
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: actually just entered. I didn't enter in the spring. I

1256
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: actually just entered regularly as a as an incoming freshman

1257
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: in the summer. So and then I read shirted, and

1258
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 1: you know, I ended up sitting behind Max Brown for

1259
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 1: a few games and then took over as a starter,

1260
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: and we're able to rattle off some some wins, which was,

1261
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 1: you know, kind of the turning point recently in my career.

1262
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: And it's been awesome ever since. I want to go

1263
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: back to that first start at Utah. I believe was

1264
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: pouring rain there for your first start there at SC.

1265
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: What was was there a time were you addressed the

1266
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: team and it's kind of awkward, right, You've got Max

1267
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 1: is there, now you're going to replace him as a

1268
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,880
Speaker 1: starter early on in the season. You're going into that

1269
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:05,800
Speaker 1: start against Utah. Did you ever address the offense as

1270
00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: a whole prior to that game or and what was

1271
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 1: that experience like stepping on the turf as a starter

1272
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 1: for the first time in college. No. Um, Now, I

1273
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:16,720
Speaker 1: never addressed the you know, the offense of a whole.

1274
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:20,360
Speaker 1: But I remember going out there as my you know,

1275
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:22,800
Speaker 1: with my the first drive before the game. I think

1276
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,960
Speaker 1: we we ended up receiving the kickoff, and you know,

1277
00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: we were the first kind of team to go out there,

1278
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: and um, I just told the offense. I was like, hey, guys,

1279
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: you know, this is what we gotta do. Gave him

1280
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: to play and we were ready to roll. And in

1281
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 1: pract I had a really good week of practice that week. Um,

1282
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: and I think the guys just, you know, they understood

1283
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: that we needed something new. Um we needed you know,

1284
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 1: a little spark or whatever you want to call it.

1285
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: But um, I thought I provided it. Uh. You know,

1286
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: we saw some touchdowns, we moved the ball a lot

1287
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,840
Speaker 1: against Utah. Unfortunately, we lost that game. Um. But I

1288
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: think you could just kind of feel it. You just

1289
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: kind of felt um, And it wasn't just me. I mean,

1290
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: it was it was all the players around me, um,

1291
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,720
Speaker 1: making plays and doing their assignment. And I knew after

1292
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:13,439
Speaker 1: that game that I could play at the collegiate level. Um.

1293
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,320
Speaker 1: That really gave me confidence, Uh, to be able to

1294
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: go out there and play with confidence and you know,

1295
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: trust my teammates as well, that they were gonna do

1296
00:59:21,960 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 1: what they needed to do every single play. And you know,

1297
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:29,080
Speaker 1: I think knowing that and really trusting my teammates and

1298
00:59:29,120 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: knowing that they had my back was really the main

1299
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,960
Speaker 1: thing that gave me confidence to go out, you know,

1300
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: the rest of the year and not lose any games.

1301
00:59:38,280 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: You know, Sam, one of the things your coach talks

1302
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: about is how you inspire your teammates. You give them hope,

1303
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: You kind of bring an optimistic view to the team,

1304
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 1: particularly and clutch moments. Where does that confidence come from

1305
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:51,960
Speaker 1: when the game is on the line and you have

1306
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: the ball in your hands that you can lead your

1307
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 1: team for score to win a game. Um. I really

1308
01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 1: just I honestly believe that, you know, ever since I

1309
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 1: kind of grew up playing football and basketball, baseball, these

1310
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 1: sports and even playing in the backyard with my friends

1311
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:13,160
Speaker 1: and um, you know, even during recess when I was

1312
01:00:13,160 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: playing you know, touch football. Um, it was just no

1313
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,920
Speaker 1: matter what the score was, I always wanted to score

1314
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,960
Speaker 1: touchdowns and drive the ball down the field, and no

1315
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:24,800
Speaker 1: matter what the score was. And I think that kind

1316
01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 1: of carries onto, you know, that kind of carried onto

1317
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: my collegiate career, and I think it's definitely gonna carry

1318
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 1: on in the NFL, where I don't you know, it's

1319
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:38,160
Speaker 1: it's important to be ahead in the game, but if

1320
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 1: you're down in the game, you can't make excuses for yourself.

1321
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: You gotta just go out there and continue to play

1322
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:46,000
Speaker 1: the game, play the game that you love. Um, you know,

1323
01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: I just, you know, kind of I always talked about

1324
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 1: Kobe too. I think Kobe is such a great example

1325
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: because you know, of all the tape that you watch him,

1326
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,240
Speaker 1: he probably tries harder when he's up by twenty or

1327
01:00:57,240 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: when he's down by twenty, more than any other athlete

1328
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 1: that I've have are scene. Um, it's just that kind

1329
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: of mentality. Um, I guess you can call it the

1330
01:01:05,080 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 1: mom of mentality. But it's just no matter what situation

1331
01:01:09,280 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 1: you're in, always trying your hardest, and I think for me,

1332
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 1: it's about respecting the game more than anything. So last

1333
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,240
Speaker 1: question from me, and this is just I've been curious

1334
01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: because you're so stock. I remember being there at the

1335
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,120
Speaker 1: Rose Bowl when you you make the incredible comeback against

1336
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: Penn State, and I think after the kick went through,

1337
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,280
Speaker 1: he didn't run around on the field a little bit.

1338
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: But you rarely let your emotions show at all. Do

1339
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 1: you ever watch Baker Mayfield do what he does after

1340
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: touchdowns and put his hands on go crazy, sprint to

1341
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: the sideline, kind of look up at the crowd. Have

1342
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: you ever thought of that, about adding that to your repertoire.

1343
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:46,160
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, you know, I think about it all

1344
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: the time. Uh, it's just you know, it's it's just

1345
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,840
Speaker 1: not who I am. Uh. And you know, for Baker

1346
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 1: to do that, that's who he is, and that's awesome.

1347
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:56,920
Speaker 1: You know, I have a kind of respect for Baker

1348
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: and all these other quarterbacks in the draft. You know,

1349
01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: Josh us to run around two and you guys know

1350
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,200
Speaker 1: how close me and Josh has gotten over the past

1351
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 1: you know a few months, and um, it's just you know, guys,

1352
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: are gonna play the game differently, and I think you know,

1353
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:14,680
Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say that I get more excited. Uh.

1354
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,160
Speaker 1: You know, I think than any of these other quarterbacks

1355
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 1: when I score a touchdown. But I like to celebrate,

1356
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: you know, the way I do. And UM, I'm not

1357
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: going to change that. Um. I think if I ended

1358
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,680
Speaker 1: up running around, I would think I would embarrass myself.

1359
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: You know, I think I take it as a good

1360
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 1: job of it. Um, So you know I'm not I'm

1361
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 1: just gonna continue to be myself. And uh, that's that's

1362
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: how I go about it. You know. That's how I

1363
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: was kind of raised, is to just um and I've

1364
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:42,120
Speaker 1: been talking, you know about it for a while now.

1365
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: But I grew up more reserves. Um. I was more

1366
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: of like a shy kid growing up obviously, you know,

1367
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,360
Speaker 1: being being the quarterback at USC and you know, going

1368
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:54,360
Speaker 1: into the NFL draft as a potential you know, top pick,

1369
01:02:54,480 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, I'm in the limelight a little

1370
01:02:57,440 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: bit more. But you know, my parents and my close

1371
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: friend of mine, I've really kept me grounded. And you

1372
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,120
Speaker 1: know that's something that I think shows up in my

1373
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: game as well. You know, whenever I score a touchdown. Um,

1374
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 1: I understand that. You know, the other team has a

1375
01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:13,840
Speaker 1: potential to go down there and score two. You know,

1376
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:17,440
Speaker 1: it's just going out there and really, just for me,

1377
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 1: it's about again respecting the game and understanding the position

1378
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 1: I'm in. And you know, obviously I'll let my emotions

1379
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,240
Speaker 1: show if we're tied on the Rose Bowl and the

1380
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:29,360
Speaker 1: game winning kick goes through the uprights. But um no,

1381
01:03:29,440 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 1: I'm just going to continue to be myself and respect

1382
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:33,640
Speaker 1: the game as much as I can. Hey, I love

1383
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:36,800
Speaker 1: that answer. I have one final question. Uh, this year

1384
01:03:36,960 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 1: was a little different from you and than previous years

1385
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 1: because you kind of came in as the face of

1386
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:45,280
Speaker 1: college football, as the face of USC and all the

1387
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,760
Speaker 1: expectations that went along with that. What were what are

1388
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: you able to take from this year being kind of

1389
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 1: celebrated and anointed as the face of college football to

1390
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:58,000
Speaker 1: prepare you to be potentially the number one pick in

1391
01:03:58,040 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: the NFL. Yeah, I learned a lot, um, I think,

1392
01:04:01,640 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: you know, being the face of college football, like you said,

1393
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 1: and um, you know all the things, you know, being

1394
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:12,080
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback at USC, which has its own um,

1395
01:04:12,120 --> 01:04:15,520
Speaker 1: its own kind of you know, I guess title to

1396
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: it and everything and all that that comes along with it.

1397
01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 1: But um, like I said, I mean, I'm just going

1398
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:25,000
Speaker 1: to continue in myself. Um. You know, sometimes it's hard

1399
01:04:25,040 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: to you know, find the time in the day to

1400
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:30,959
Speaker 1: really reflect on everything, and um, reflect on the people

1401
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:33,920
Speaker 1: who have bright of this moment. And uh, you know,

1402
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 1: I look back and think of all the people like

1403
01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 1: my friends and my family who have helped me along

1404
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,439
Speaker 1: in the way, my teammates, all the coaches that I've had,

1405
01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 1: and um, I think they would all say the same

1406
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 1: thing about me. It's just no matter what, you know,

1407
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 1: the circumstances, whether I'm in the NFL, um but face

1408
01:04:50,360 --> 01:04:52,520
Speaker 1: of college football, or if I'm just you know, a

1409
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: high school kid out there playing the game. I've I've

1410
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 1: never really changed and I don't I don't plan on it. Um,

1411
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 1: obviously I've I've you know, you need to handle the

1412
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 1: media differently. Um. Then sometimes you know, a kid from

1413
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: Saint Lamani High School would when you're you know, a

1414
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 1: potential top pick. So um. But you know that as

1415
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,919
Speaker 1: those moments kind of come and go, you learn from them, UM,

1416
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 1: and you just move on. So that's kind of the

1417
01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:24,000
Speaker 1: mindset that I've had throughout this whole process. But um,

1418
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,200
Speaker 1: you know, I wouldn't be here without the help of

1419
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 1: my family, uh, teammates, close friends, and all the coaches

1420
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,920
Speaker 1: along the way. So UM, I don't you know, I

1421
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: don't have enough words to be able to thank those

1422
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,360
Speaker 1: people that have helped me. That's well said, Sam, And

1423
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 1: free of charge, Bucky and I are going to give

1424
01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 1: you one piece of advice. Uh. And this is the

1425
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 1: this is the most important thing you've got Cleveland picking one.

1426
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 1: You've got the Giants to the Jets, three, the Broncos

1427
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,600
Speaker 1: five as two guys that live in southern California, you

1428
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 1: better go buy a jacket. Dude. Yeah, I'm way of you. Hey, Sam,

1429
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,560
Speaker 1: thanks so much for the time. Did we appreciate it? Him?

1430
01:06:00,680 --> 01:06:04,600
Speaker 1: Appreciate it? Thanks guys, Well Buck, There's nothing better than

1431
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:06,600
Speaker 1: than getting the man himself on here, Sam Donald, to

1432
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 1: hear from him directly, get a chance to talk to

1433
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 1: his coaches and people that have been around him and

1434
01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: know him well. But there's nothing like talking to the

1435
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,600
Speaker 1: man himself. Not nothing like it. And I think, if anything,

1436
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 1: you understand why teams are clamoring for this guy to

1437
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:23,000
Speaker 1: be their franchise quarterback, regardless of whatever physical things and

1438
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:26,000
Speaker 1: deficiencies that may exist in his game. The person is

1439
01:06:26,040 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 1: what you're willing to trust, and when you listen to him,

1440
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: you can trust that he's going to do everything within

1441
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,320
Speaker 1: his power to live up to the expectations of being

1442
01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback as a blue college kid, a kid

1443
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: that is really about the work. Um, I think it's

1444
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: easy in an evaluation with others to say that I

1445
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,520
Speaker 1: would bank on him because I trust that he's going

1446
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: to maximize whatever his potential is as opposed to some

1447
01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:50,680
Speaker 1: of the other quarterbacks in his class. You know, the

1448
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 1: one word you don't often use with quarterbacks in an

1449
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 1: evaluation just comes to mind when I listened to Sam talk,

1450
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,680
Speaker 1: that's stability. Just it comes across as a very stoic

1451
01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:01,640
Speaker 1: stable dude. Yeah, I mean I think you know exactly

1452
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 1: what you're getting, and we've talked about it. Um. Yeah,

1453
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:05,320
Speaker 1: Sometimes you can go out and you can hit a

1454
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: home run, but you can win a lot of games

1455
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 1: hitting doubles. And I think with Sam Donald, he is

1456
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,880
Speaker 1: a double. He is hitting it right in between center

1457
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 1: field and left field, It bounces over defense. You know

1458
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:17,919
Speaker 1: exactly what you're gonna get day in day out, And

1459
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 1: not only that, I think it's also easy for his

1460
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 1: teammates to relate. And sometimes we've been around guys who

1461
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: just have the ability to elevate the play of others.

1462
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 1: I think he has the right personality to do that,

1463
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 1: and I want a lot of football games there for

1464
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 1: the USC Trojans will see what he does at the

1465
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: next level. Let's get to uh a couple of fits

1466
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 1: here where you think. I think Sam Donald is one

1467
01:07:37,400 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 1: of those guys you can plug me in a lot

1468
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 1: of different places. Cleveland, to me, is the best fit.

1469
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 1: They got the first pick. To me, it makes the

1470
01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 1: most sense. I think he's he's the right guy for them.

1471
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 1: But outside of Cleveland, is there another team you think

1472
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 1: would be a great fit for Sam. I think he's

1473
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 1: one of the rare quarterbacks that can go anywhere um

1474
01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,160
Speaker 1: and I think the reason he can play anywhere is

1475
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,760
Speaker 1: because his personality lends itself to be a fit in

1476
01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 1: the locker room, his athleticism, his armtael and all those

1477
01:07:57,800 --> 01:07:59,880
Speaker 1: things like look, he checks off all the boxes. But

1478
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:03,240
Speaker 1: more importantly, the intangibles are right. And so if I

1479
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 1: had to say some other teams, I'll say he could

1480
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 1: play for the Jets. He could play for the Broncos,

1481
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:08,560
Speaker 1: he could play for the Bills and the Cardinals. Whoever,

1482
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:10,800
Speaker 1: wherever he goes, he can be a fit. I just

1483
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 1: think it's really really important that whoever takes him try

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01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: to put him in the comfort zone. Do you want

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01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 1: to see him a year? I would say maybe, But

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01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:19,760
Speaker 1: then there's a part of me and said, look, he

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01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,280
Speaker 1: can play, He'll figure it out. And so I don't

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01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:25,800
Speaker 1: think he is a guy that is um fragile, where

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01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 1: if you did put him out there, and you put

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01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 1: him out there early and he didn't have success right away,

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01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: that it would crush him. I think he is wired

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01:08:32,680 --> 01:08:34,439
Speaker 1: the right way where he would bounce back. He would

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01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:36,559
Speaker 1: be regilian. He's gritty enough and gutty enough to be

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01:08:36,560 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 1: able to kind of find a way to figure it out.

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01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:39,600
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that. When I look at the

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01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 1: range of where he could go, I think obviously he

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01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 1: started pick number one. Um. I would think if he

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01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 1: was still around there, the Jets take him at three.

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01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 1: If the Jets didn't take him at three, I would

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01:08:48,160 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 1: say either Denver would take him, or there would be

1501
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 1: such a hot market for him they'd be able to

1502
01:08:51,760 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 1: get out of that pick. So to me, the range

1503
01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 1: is really one to number five. But the question I

1504
01:08:56,360 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 1: have for you is, let's fast forward five years from now.

1505
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 1: It's tough to do when you don't know where a

1506
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 1: guy's gonna get picked. What do you envisioned Sam Donald

1507
01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: being five years down the road. I think he will

1508
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 1: work his way into being a Pro Bowl caliber player.

1509
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: I think he'd be in contention for the Pro Bowl

1510
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:11,720
Speaker 1: every year. I think he'll find a way to have

1511
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 1: a team winning at a high level, competing for division

1512
01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 1: championships and maybe more. And then I think he will

1513
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: continue to study at climb. I think he would go

1514
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 1: from being kind of a bit of a caretaker to

1515
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 1: being a guy that kind of his sins and his

1516
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 1: the franchise player. If I could kind of track his ascension,

1517
01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 1: I think he probably could follow the path of Ben

1518
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger early in his career, being went with a good

1519
01:09:32,479 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: team that kind of ran it. He eventually kind of

1520
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:38,600
Speaker 1: became the guy that moved from game manager to playmaker.

1521
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 1: I think Sam Donald will do the same. That's a

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01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 1: that's a great way to look at it. There, Uh,

1523
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 1: real quick, before we get out of here. USC quarterbacks

1524
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 1: and he's probably gotta go back to Carson Palmer to

1525
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,000
Speaker 1: find one that's been a hit. Does that worry you

1526
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,479
Speaker 1: at all? It doesn't because I'm not scouting to hell.

1527
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 1: And I think the big thing with Sam Donald, I

1528
01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: think his talent, his level, his intangibles are a little different.

1529
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,719
Speaker 1: And even when you bring up Carson Palmer, Carson Palmer

1530
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 1: would be the goal standard for sc football, I think

1531
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:04,800
Speaker 1: Sam Donald can surpass at in terms of what he's

1532
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:06,439
Speaker 1: able to do at the next level. All right, well,

1533
01:10:06,479 --> 01:10:08,160
Speaker 1: there you have it. We've had a chance to visit

1534
01:10:08,160 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 1: with some very interesting folks. Hopefully you've learned a little

1535
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 1: something about Sam Donald you did not know before checking

1536
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:15,920
Speaker 1: out the Sam Donald three sixty podcast. If this is

1537
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:19,080
Speaker 1: the first three sixty episode you're checking out, though, trust me,

1538
01:10:19,200 --> 01:10:20,840
Speaker 1: you're gonna want to go check out the rest in

1539
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 1: the series. We have six other episodes. Uh, it's a

1540
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:25,920
Speaker 1: favorite thing we get to do here each and every year. Buck,

1541
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 1: I think this is our best work on this year's

1542
01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:29,800
Speaker 1: three sixty series, and hopefully the folks got a chance

1543
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:32,400
Speaker 1: to enjoy it. Yeah. I think it's phenomenal. I think

1544
01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 1: it's great insight, great perspective. I think you and I

1545
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:36,840
Speaker 1: both learned a lot by talking to all the guys

1546
01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:38,680
Speaker 1: that have been really, really close to these players, and

1547
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:41,679
Speaker 1: so it's been a nice job to go and get

1548
01:10:41,720 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 1: seven top two's to be able to break them down

1549
01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 1: and talk about all the stuff that makes them great. Yeah,

1550
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 1: and dig a little bit deeper. That's what we tried

1551
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Speaker 1: to do here on Move the Sticks in general, And

1552
01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:52,080
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1555
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Speaker 1: draft season, it's all about the draft, and then we'll

1556
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1557
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:02,320
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Speaker 1: go to NFL dot com Slash podcast check that out.

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