WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Fundamental Change 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:06.000 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.000 --> 0:00:07.600 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:09.920 --> 0:00:17.320 Cowboys Let's go. Are you ready for a break? 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:17.880 Yes? 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:19.720 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:19.880 --> 0:00:20.520 Absolutely? 0:00:20.680 --> 0:00:22.560 Ready for a break? 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:23.160 Yeah? 0:00:23.200 --> 0:00:27.080 And so much for that. It's time for the Break 0:00:27.520 --> 0:00:29.320 on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:30.440 We were on. 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:37.240 With Ambar Garcia, Brian brought us, Patrick Walker and Derek Eagleton. 0:00:46.840 --> 0:00:50.560 It is Wednesday, April third, twenty twenty four, Season twenty, 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:54.280 episode number one. This is welcome to the first edition 0:00:54.440 --> 0:00:57.680 of this season of The Break, presented by LG. We 0:00:57.680 --> 0:00:59.520 got a brand new sponsor for the beginning of this season. 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:02.840 LG's new sponsor of the show, and so we'll be 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:06.280 bringing you lots of content this this season that will 0:01:06.280 --> 0:01:10.520 be presented by LG. So, how's everybody doing today? We're good. 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:11.119 Number one. 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:13.520 It is episode number one of this season. So we're 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:15.840 in twenty sea. This is our twentieth season. I'm doing 0:01:15.880 --> 0:01:18.160 Cowboys Break, all right, and this is episode number one. 0:01:18.240 --> 0:01:19.800 That's kind of a big deal. 0:01:20.120 --> 0:01:20.880 Kind of a big deal. 0:01:21.640 --> 0:01:25.400 And by the way, there's timetable here, like why today. 0:01:25.480 --> 0:01:28.039 April just begin? This a new fiscal year for the 0:01:28.120 --> 0:01:32.360 NFL that would be when we flipped the number of stress. 0:01:32.880 --> 0:01:35.920 So there you go, the one consistent. He said, twenty years. 0:01:36.440 --> 0:01:39.039 Shut your dumb No, I. 0:01:38.959 --> 0:01:39.959 Was not saying it like that. 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:44.119 I'm giving you the information. One consists about twenty years. 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:46.840 Bacib strikes of it. 0:01:46.959 --> 0:01:51.440 Yeah, for sure, fairst of all the twenty years. 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:53.680 Actually, I will say this, there was a brief period. 0:01:54.400 --> 0:01:56.320 I can't remember the year. There was a brief period 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:58.200 when we're still back at Valley Ranch. Yeah, when I 0:01:58.240 --> 0:01:59.760 got off the show because I was like, I got 0:01:59.800 --> 0:02:03.200 too much business work to get done. Sure, uh, and 0:02:03.240 --> 0:02:05.480 then we lost somebody. I think that was when Rowan 0:02:05.560 --> 0:02:08.560 left and I was like, I don't have anybody, just 0:02:08.600 --> 0:02:10.600 put on the show. So I got back on the show. 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:12.560 And then I just kind of was like, do it. 0:02:13.240 --> 0:02:19.320 Me, Mickey Rowing and uh City Drso I. 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:21.000 Thought that would have been talking cowboys. 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:22.440 That was talking cowboys. 0:02:22.480 --> 0:02:24.280 And I think when I got off the show, I 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:27.399 thought we pulled Rowing off. I thought we pulled Rowing 0:02:27.480 --> 0:02:29.560 over to Break and I got off of the Break 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:33.440 and I was off for maybe maybe like it was 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:34.960 in the off season, I think, And I think it 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:37.359 may have been for like a few months. And by 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:39.040 the time we got to that next season, I was 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:39.800 right back in. 0:02:39.720 --> 0:02:42.040 And I remember, I remember working with all those folks. 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:42.800 Yeah, it was fun. 0:02:43.040 --> 0:02:45.720 Actually, speaking of which, one of the things I kind 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:47.200 of want to do this year and I haven't decided 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:49.640 if and how I'm going to do it, but I 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:53.079 want to consider it being our twentieth season, trying to 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:54.600 bring some of the folks that have been a part 0:02:54.639 --> 0:02:57.079 of the Break over the years back for some episodes. 0:02:57.800 --> 0:02:59.400 It would be really cool. I know DIA's back in 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:00.800 town now with my Bill Bringer. 0:03:00.960 --> 0:03:02.880 It's kind of a fun June project when you got 0:03:03.120 --> 0:03:03.840 nothing going on. 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:05.800 We got a lot of people that have been around 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:07.440 it will get Helm and the call in a bit. 0:03:07.639 --> 0:03:10.600 You know he's in la I don't know if he'll 0:03:10.639 --> 0:03:12.519 be in town, but you know, get him and rolled 0:03:12.600 --> 0:03:13.040 through and. 0:03:13.120 --> 0:03:15.280 Help me out. First, the first thing you put Helman 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:16.880 on was the Draft show yep. 0:03:17.000 --> 0:03:19.000 And when he first cart everyody's like, I don't know 0:03:19.000 --> 0:03:20.440 about this guy looks kind of goofy. 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:22.400 You know, I don't want to I'm like, I need. 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:23.280 He grew a beer and he was like, oh you 0:03:23.360 --> 0:03:24.320 kind of college school. 0:03:24.360 --> 0:03:26.880 I'll take him. You know, LSU guy, you gotta take 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:27.720 care of less you guys. 0:03:27.720 --> 0:03:28.799 But well he took care of you. 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:29.760 Oh, he took care of you. 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:33.679 I'll tell you what, seriously, I would never take another job. 0:03:33.480 --> 0:03:35.800 In writing unless you can bring him. 0:03:35.920 --> 0:03:36.119 Yeah. 0:03:36.280 --> 0:03:40.960 He literally every year he was here, he read every story, 0:03:41.120 --> 0:03:44.760 edited every story, every even after all the stories he 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:49.160 wrote in the game, he would edit my stories. That's crazy. 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:51.040 And he's like, man, you got a little better at 0:03:51.040 --> 0:03:54.360 write it a little better. And bro, I'm just glad 0:03:54.400 --> 0:03:54.760 you're here. 0:03:54.880 --> 0:03:56.839 And still this day the image you have of him 0:03:56.880 --> 0:03:59.640 is sitting there looking at his computer, rubbing his eye. 0:04:00.080 --> 0:04:04.040 Yeah, he goes, tell goes, you actually made a very 0:04:04.120 --> 0:04:05.600 coherent sentence there, Brian. 0:04:05.720 --> 0:04:07.240 Really good for you. Way to go, you know. 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:09.880 And I'm like, I write like a scout, you know, 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:13.480 dash whatever and all that. And he he would make 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:14.600 all that work. 0:04:14.800 --> 0:04:16.200 And I do I owe. 0:04:16.000 --> 0:04:18.160 Him everything unless you guys take care of you. 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:19.000 We try, I gotta. 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:19.760 I gotta say that. 0:04:19.800 --> 0:04:21.600 Takes two guys to work one story, but. 0:04:21.600 --> 0:04:23.400 We but we may try that. We may try to 0:04:23.400 --> 0:04:26.960 pull in some of our old break hosts and have 0:04:27.040 --> 0:04:29.080 them join our show a few times this year with 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:31.120 it being our twentieth year celebration, and maybe at some 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:33.080 point we'll have some kind of big celebration that nice. 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:34.039 Yeah, that will be nice. 0:04:34.480 --> 0:04:37.279 Could taken sure, I'll do that. I will take us 0:04:37.279 --> 0:04:37.720 all at dinner. 0:04:37.720 --> 0:04:38.240 I could do that. 0:04:38.640 --> 0:04:38.839 You know. 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:39.840 I'm not going to turn down. 0:04:39.960 --> 0:04:42.640 He never turned down, but I just throw it out there. 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:44.440 Yeah, we can do that. All right, Let's jump in. 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:45.960 Let's talk Chris is like. 0:04:45.880 --> 0:04:51.640 I mean, Chris the smoke drink right right right with 0:04:51.720 --> 0:04:53.800 the smoke because the smoke out of the whiskey glass. 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:56.440 Yeah, and a new fridge Homebamer. All right, let's talk. 0:04:56.920 --> 0:05:00.120 Let's talk about thirty visits they are starting this week. 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:02.560 And uh, I guess first, Patrick, give me kind of 0:05:02.600 --> 0:05:04.960 an idea of what who we can expect some of 0:05:05.000 --> 0:05:07.360 the names that are kind of out there that we've 0:05:07.360 --> 0:05:09.320 reported that are that are gonna be here this week. 0:05:09.400 --> 0:05:11.920 Okay, So thank you for putting me right on the spot. 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:16.000 I got the nation, so let me just pull it up. 0:05:16.000 --> 0:05:19.200 All right, So what's been reported and I'll just go 0:05:19.320 --> 0:05:21.160 quickly unit by unit. 0:05:21.279 --> 0:05:23.919 So for offensive line, we. 0:05:23.920 --> 0:05:29.160 Have Matt gon Kelviy's the beloved Jackson Powers Johnson. 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:30.800 That's a big, big name. 0:05:31.400 --> 0:05:35.719 We got Fuega out of Oregon State and Graham Barton 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.479 out of Duke. Those are your reported offensive line official 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:40.760 thirty visits. And again for those that aren't aware, those 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:44.960 start today running backs. Reported running backs. We got Jonathan Brooks. 0:05:44.960 --> 0:05:47.080 That's a big name to keep an eye on. I know, 0:05:47.240 --> 0:05:48.479 there you go. You want to say, hook them, you. 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:49.920 Got hook them? There you go, all right. 0:05:50.279 --> 0:05:53.640 Braylan Allen out of Wiscott, Wisconsin, he's one. Bucky Irving 0:05:53.680 --> 0:05:56.279 out of Oregon, Trey Benson out of Florida State. That 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.120 those they reported running backs. There are others, but we're 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:02.120 working to confirm those names. Who else we got defensive line? 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:04.760 We got Darius Robinson out of Missouri. He's a reported one. 0:06:04.800 --> 0:06:06.520 Keep an eye on a guy like Byron Murphy. We're 0:06:06.520 --> 0:06:09.719 working to confirm that he's an official thirty visit. Linebackers. 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:12.359 This is a massive group that the Cowboys are focusing on. 0:06:12.480 --> 0:06:15.520 As are running backs, but linebackers. Edren Cooper Texas A 0:06:15.520 --> 0:06:19.000 and m the Aggie, Peyton Wilson, North Carolina State, Trevin 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:23.279 Wallace out of Kentucky Junior Coast in Michigan, Jordan McGee, Temple, 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:28.440 Nathaniel Watson Mississippi State, and again those are what's reported 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:30.760 those would have been confirmed. The other names and we 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:33.080 have several of those that I will refrain from at 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:35.080 the moment until we can get confirmation. But a lot 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:38.600 going on starting today with the Cowboys and the official thirties, and. 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:40.640 It's a lot of a lot of players that will 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:43.440 be coming through. And to be noted, the Cowboys are 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:45.920 traditionally they'll get they'll get some of these guys. You'll 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:48.320 see them draft these guys they bring in. So it 0:06:48.360 --> 0:06:50.880 is worth noting what stands out to you about these names, Brians. 0:06:50.880 --> 0:06:52.640 You look at these names, what kind of pops out 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:55.400 as you, whether it's particular players or particular positions. 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:58.760 Yeah, of Fuaga, the tackle might be the best tackle 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:01.960 in the draft. And I know that people talk about 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:07.479 alt from Notre Dame. Fuaga is from Oregon State. Surprising, 0:07:07.680 --> 0:07:10.160 you know to me that immediately when I heard the name. 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:12.760 Very well in great job by Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:07:12.760 --> 0:07:16.400 getting those names together and getting them out. Nick Harris 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:18.480 has done a tremendous job on the Draft show as well. 0:07:18.960 --> 0:07:21.520 And but the first thing that came to mind is 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.680 that's a trade up guy right there. That's not a 0:07:24.720 --> 0:07:26.400 wait till twenty four and get guy. 0:07:26.640 --> 0:07:28.400 That is it. That is if you're you're going to 0:07:28.480 --> 0:07:29.080 have to go. 0:07:29.640 --> 0:07:31.560 There are teams that have him and I've talked to 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:33.760 that have him as the best tackle in the draft. 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:34.520 Uh. 0:07:34.600 --> 0:07:36.520 You know, he would be top ten. 0:07:36.440 --> 0:07:38.760 And that you know, I thought the landing spot for 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.280 him would be at the at the lowest would be 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.600 the Jets at ten. You know, they went and got 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:46.760 Tyron Smith. We've talked about Tyron Smith going there. Uh, 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:50.320 but Fuaga is a tremendous player. Could play guard, could 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:53.120 play tackle, He's athletic, he's powerful. 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:54.120 Uh. 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:55.960 You know that those are the kinds of things I mean, 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:57.960 that's that. That was one of those that I'm like 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:00.640 thinking there's something up there because I just don't think 0:08:00.680 --> 0:08:03.720 you're gonna get him at twenty four. Powers Johnson, the 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:07.840 center from Oregon, is dealing with some medical things. They 0:08:08.320 --> 0:08:11.120 checked him out at the Combine. You're starting to see 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:13.480 him some mock drafts of some of the prominent mock 0:08:13.560 --> 0:08:16.160 drafters are keeping him out of the first round. So 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:20.520 what's happening is the scout media scouts are starting to 0:08:20.560 --> 0:08:23.080 catch up with what went on at the Combine with 0:08:23.160 --> 0:08:24.280 some of the medical stuff. 0:08:24.280 --> 0:08:26.160 Here do you know what kind of medical. 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:29.200 It's some things that need to be checked. 0:08:29.760 --> 0:08:32.360 I have an idea. I want to get some things 0:08:32.440 --> 0:08:34.959 confirmed what he has. I don't want to sit here 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:38.400 and then say, well, he's got this and it's actually not, 0:08:38.520 --> 0:08:41.560 because yeah, there's a couple of things though. That again, 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:44.760 talking to my gang of seven around the league, talking 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:48.200 to people, some trainers around the league. There's some things 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:50.440 that have to be checked there. So hopefully we'll get 0:08:50.440 --> 0:08:54.360 that done before the night of the draft. Barton is 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:56.480 another one that's dealing with now. I know for a 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:59.560 fact he's doing with some shoulder stuff because at the 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:04.000 combine excuse me, at his pro day at Duke, he 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:07.680 had he couldn't do any of the pushing drills anything, 0:09:07.760 --> 0:09:11.480 you know, with extension. Uh, he didn't bench press. So 0:09:11.559 --> 0:09:14.760 he's dealing with a shoulder that he's having fixed. Brooks, 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:18.000 we know from Texas, is dealing with the knee. Tremendous 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:22.000 player him, Benson, Allen Irving. All these backs, they're hunting 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:24.719 backs right now. As you can see, they're also, as 0:09:24.760 --> 0:09:26.680 Patrick told you, they're hunting linebackers. 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:26.880 Here. 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:29.160 Let me let me give you a name that I 0:09:29.240 --> 0:09:31.840 really really really like out of this whole thing when 0:09:31.840 --> 0:09:37.880 you when you start to talk about linebackers, especially inside linebackers. Uh, 0:09:38.120 --> 0:09:40.920 you know Cooper's outstanding from from Texas A and M. 0:09:41.400 --> 0:09:45.120 But this Travian Wallace from Kentucky is a bad man 0:09:45.880 --> 0:09:50.600 at six and thirty seven pounds. Uh, you don't have 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:52.520 to take And I'm sorry, I'm not turning this into 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:55.880 the draft show. I'm just telling you they're bringing in 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:58.800 dudes that can play football, and that's the whole idea. 0:09:58.920 --> 0:10:01.720 You know, Hey, maybe you haven't heard a lot about 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:04.720 Wallace at Kentucky. If you have the opportunity, take a 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.320 peek at him and you'll you'll you'll know exactly what 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:10.720 I'm talking about. It doesn't take long to fire find 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:12.600 him on tape. You don't have to ask what number 0:10:12.640 --> 0:10:14.679 he is. You see him right there. But that's him, 0:10:14.720 --> 0:10:17.800 that's him. That's him again. So he can finish when 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.800 he gets in position. He doesn't get fooled by running plays. 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:24.439 He's physical at the point of attack. He's a team captain, 0:10:24.520 --> 0:10:27.720 emotional leader, there's so many things. He's twenty one years 0:10:27.760 --> 0:10:32.720 old too, and he plays like you hope he's on 0:10:32.760 --> 0:10:33.320 your team is. 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:34.520 He's a one starter type guy. 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:34.640 Oh. 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:37.240 Absolutely, he's a plug and play guy. This is this 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:39.520 guy mean because he's got such a feel for how 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:42.120 to play, whether you put him in coverage or you know, 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:44.800 like he understands like sometimes the linebackers they drop and 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:48.200 they kind of just float around. He's a drop I 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:50.120 see what you're trying to do behind me and get 0:10:50.160 --> 0:10:53.280 over guy. You know that a lot of yeah, you know, 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:57.199 and Mike Simmerpool. When I know about Mike, Mike wants guys. 0:10:57.559 --> 0:11:01.439 If Mike, Mike will tell you this, if he if 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:04.160 it's a smaller guy, you want to be able to 0:11:04.200 --> 0:11:08.440 have that elite awareness like what that win had. That's 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:10.040 you know, if you're going to be a shorter guy, 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:14.520 be elite with your ability to your instincts and things 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:17.560 like that. If you're a bigger guy, if you have instincts, 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:20.319 you have size, you have ability to play at the 0:11:20.360 --> 0:11:22.320 point of attack. You can help me in coverage, you 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:27.360 can occasionally blitch you that. That's this makes perfect sense 0:11:27.480 --> 0:11:30.800 for a Mike zimmer type of linebacker that we're dealing with. 0:11:30.960 --> 0:11:33.600 See a first round or second round guy, Like I. 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:35.960 Think he's more to me. I feel like that when 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.000 I had him on my board was in the second round. 0:11:38.480 --> 0:11:43.600 But the thing about him is though him and Wilson, 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:46.840 Peyton Wilson from North Carolina State, maybe another name that 0:11:47.120 --> 0:11:49.760 I don't think you said, Peyton Wilson from UH from 0:11:49.800 --> 0:11:52.360 North Carolina State. If you didn't, don't, I might be 0:11:52.400 --> 0:11:54.800 a name that you hear about here in the next 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:55.280 few days. 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:58.360 I don't. I don't know. But the thing about the 0:11:58.400 --> 0:11:59.840 thing about these guys. 0:12:00.080 --> 0:12:02.800 They're very Yes, yes, he's confirmed. 0:12:02.440 --> 0:12:07.400 Okay, Peyton Wilson, Wallace. Keep an eye on these cats, 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:12.960 both of them. Instincts downhill players, tough, make every single tackle, 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:19.640 play well in coverage. Healthy, not as healthy as Wallace, Okay, 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:23.360 dealing with some stuff there, and that's maybe what keeps 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:25.920 him out of the first round. But that might give 0:12:25.960 --> 0:12:30.360 you the opportunity to to me, Wilson could be a 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:32.800 trade back guy, you know, if you drop back, if 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:34.640 you know, say say for example, we get in this 0:12:34.760 --> 0:12:38.520 draft and all of a sudden, you know, Baltimore. 0:12:38.040 --> 0:12:40.960 Calls you, you know, are Buffalo. 0:12:40.559 --> 0:12:42.400 Calls you at twenty eight, and you could pick up 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:46.280 their their third they're into the round. Third, Baltimore calls 0:12:46.320 --> 0:12:47.839 you at thirty, you could pick up the end of 0:12:47.880 --> 0:12:51.080 the round third for them, you don't have a fourth. 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:53.920 Those are trade back options right there. 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:56.320 The way the Cowboys have got this thing set up, 0:12:56.760 --> 0:12:59.839 Like I say, Fuaga is a go up. Some of 0:12:59.880 --> 0:13:02.240 the these other guys might be. Okay, we're in kind of 0:13:02.280 --> 0:13:05.280 no man's land right now. We're between our second round 0:13:05.280 --> 0:13:07.960 pick and our first round pick if we go back 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:10.280 a certain level. We got to get this guy because 0:13:10.280 --> 0:13:13.280 we can't get him back at fifty six. So the 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:18.600 list that they're bringing in I applaud them for what 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:19.600 they're doing right now. 0:13:19.720 --> 0:13:22.800 But two things worry me about. You put these injury together. 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:26.280 Linebacker in injury like you look at and especially if 0:13:26.280 --> 0:13:28.640 you start looking second round, just think about the litany 0:13:28.640 --> 0:13:31.760 of second round of linebackers the Cowboys who came in 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:34.120 the door already injured. That that wire great play. I 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:36.160 mean they had the ability for fear, they were great, 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:39.480 had the ability, but just couldn't get over that injury bug, right, 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:41.679 And that's the part that really concerned me. And by 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:44.400 the way, I'm starting to wonder if it's just linebackers 0:13:44.440 --> 0:13:47.000 like that. That is a high collision position, right, and 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:49.840 it's going to be hard to find people who aren't injured. 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:53.680 But given with how much is a stake this year, 0:13:53.840 --> 0:13:56.600 how much because of the cap, how much they're going 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:59.640 to have to rely on the draft? Is this a 0:13:59.760 --> 0:14:04.800 draft for maybe they don't take those types of risks 0:14:04.960 --> 0:14:06.640 in because we know in the time in the second 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:09.480 round they take it. Yeah, they've draft drafted players that 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:12.120 fall back to the second round because of injuries or whatever. 0:14:12.200 --> 0:14:15.280 They take him and then sometimes they turned out to 0:14:15.280 --> 0:14:17.880 be good talent, but we know the risk in that 0:14:17.960 --> 0:14:20.240 and how long that takes. So is this a draft 0:14:20.240 --> 0:14:23.880 that maybe they're not willing to do some kind of don't. 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:26.280 I don't know that they're going to depart from their 0:14:27.320 --> 0:14:29.720 their annual way of handling things. And I say that 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:31.720 to say I don't think that Will McLay is looking 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:35.280 at it as, Okay, I need the best possible draft 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:37.960 pick at every possible selection this year. Because he looks 0:14:38.000 --> 0:14:40.520 at that the same way last year, the year prior, 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:41.800 he'll look at it the same way next year. So 0:14:41.840 --> 0:14:43.400 I think his approach is going to be the same. 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:46.320 But I also do think that it matters what the 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:48.520 position is that and who the player is. So if 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:50.640 you look at Jonathan Brooks, for example, one of the 0:14:50.640 --> 0:14:52.960 reasons they're interested in Jonathan Brooks is not only because 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:55.480 obviously he's a dynamic talent on the field, but guess 0:14:55.480 --> 0:14:57.920 who did his his procedure for his torn a cl 0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:02.720 same thing. So when they have that type of information 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.040 and that type of insight, I think that makes them 0:15:05.040 --> 0:15:07.360 feel like it's less of a risk having that information. 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:08.480 So it's it's contextual. 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:10.920 But I don't think that this is a situation where 0:15:10.960 --> 0:15:13.320 will McClain his scops go into the offseason saying, oh, well, 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:14.360 we got to change things up. 0:15:15.040 --> 0:15:17.280 This is the scary thing. And I'm not trying to 0:15:17.280 --> 0:15:20.800 be the wet blanket guy. You're dealing with a lot 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.280 of coaches that are on one year deals. Are you 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.240 drafting for coaches that are on one year deals? Or 0:15:26.240 --> 0:15:28.920 are you thinking about the fact that, like a lot 0:15:28.960 --> 0:15:32.240 of your depth went flying out this door. You know, 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:34.840 you got to think about And I know a guy 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.320 like I say on Mike Zamra, I know how Mike operates. 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:40.880 Mike is a bring me whoever you got guy, I'll 0:15:40.880 --> 0:15:43.000 coach you. I'll tell you what I like in a player, 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:47.080 just but bring me guys. You know McCarthy has come 0:15:47.120 --> 0:15:50.560 out recently and talked on some media opportunities and said, 0:15:50.680 --> 0:15:54.240 I'm a draft and development guy. That's his background At 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:57.880 Green Bay. Teddy Thompson picked the players Mike. The coaches 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:01.440 stayed back. Mike really trusted Ted and what those guys do. 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:05.800 I think Mike trust Will and this crew to find 0:16:05.840 --> 0:16:08.720 players for him. I know from my experience working in 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:11.760 this front office, though, that the Jones family will allow 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:13.720 the head coach to have his say, whether you want 0:16:13.760 --> 0:16:18.200 to take it or not. Dave Campo, you know, Chan Gaily, 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.520 whoever they the head coach does have a say, But 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:25.120 Mike has been conditioned himself to take a step back 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:26.480 let them do their jobs. 0:16:27.040 --> 0:16:30.000 But you do wonder, you do wonder is how. 0:16:29.920 --> 0:16:35.120 Much influence will coaches have on this draft, knowing that 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:40.400 potentially it could be a completely different staff. But that's 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:42.160 something you always, you know, you think about. You just 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:44.040 got to go out and like Patrick said, you go out, 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:46.320 you have a plan for what you want to do, 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:48.560 You get your players, you go forward, and you hope 0:16:48.680 --> 0:16:51.520 that you know, everything works out. But that's a little 0:16:51.560 --> 0:16:54.080 bit of the danger right now with everybody being on 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:55.240 that on that one. 0:16:55.240 --> 0:16:57.240 Deal, and on top of that, I think you have 0:16:57.320 --> 0:17:00.600 to add. And I know they try to block out 0:17:00.960 --> 0:17:04.119 outside noise and you're not gonna allow it outside noise 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:07.560 to affect kind of what you do in this type 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:10.960 of business. But at the same time, I wonder if 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:15.720 the amount of pressure that they felt surrounding the Cowboys, 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:19.960 from the fan base, from the critics, everywhere, all around 0:17:20.000 --> 0:17:24.080 the media this off season, does that change into maybe 0:17:24.560 --> 0:17:27.879 the strategy that they're used to in drafting for the future. 0:17:27.920 --> 0:17:31.800 Really, I don't think that has one even small amount 0:17:31.880 --> 0:17:34.840 of difference, makes one small bit about a difference to 0:17:34.920 --> 0:17:36.760 the people that are making the decision. I don't think 0:17:36.800 --> 0:17:40.240 they care one bit what is the national narrative or whatever. 0:17:40.400 --> 0:17:42.200 I think at the end of the day, they feel 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:45.800 confident in Will McLay and Will McClay feels confident in 0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:48.520 his evaluation and the evaluation of his team to where 0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:51.120 I don't yeah, and I don't think that at all 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:54.200 is impacted by what people think of it. 0:17:53.440 --> 0:17:58.560 It's not the outside pressure. It's the eternal pressure of. 0:17:59.440 --> 0:18:03.200 Not signed free agents. That's that's a legitimate. 0:18:02.760 --> 0:18:05.520 Pressure because of what it means, like what it's left you. 0:18:05.560 --> 0:18:09.520 Now put a lot of pressure on two areas. One 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:14.400 area is the draft. The second area is undrafted free agents. 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:17.639 The one thing that Jones family will do is they 0:18:17.640 --> 0:18:20.760 will pony up for you. Look at all the undrafted guy. 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:22.920 Look at what they've done. 0:18:22.960 --> 0:18:23.280 TJ. 0:18:23.440 --> 0:18:23.920 Bass. 0:18:23.960 --> 0:18:26.919 Guys like that that they the money that they've spent. 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:30.280