1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: Hey, Latino USA listener, here's a show from our Archivos Brazil. 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 2: Three h five was supposed to come out in twenty seventeen, 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:12,880 Speaker 2: and I went to my mom's house with the tracks 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 2: and sang it to her live in her kitchen because 5 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 2: she was so excited about hearing what it was going 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 2: to sound like. And then that week she got ill. 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: Suddenly at the end we lost her and it was 8 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 2: the most devastating loss of my life. And I tried 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,159 Speaker 2: to do the you know, go in and do my 10 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 2: part four months after, because Sony was anxiously awaiting, but 11 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: there was no way I couldn't sing. I would try, 12 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 2: but every song is so tied to the memory of 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 2: my mother. They all took on a whole different thing. 14 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: Like when I went to try to sing don't want 15 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 2: to Lose you r Mitiera or Gonosa and you can 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 2: make Ada, and it was brutal. So I literally called 17 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 2: Sony and said, look, you guys, I can't do this. 18 00:00:58,960 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 2: You need to give me time. 19 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: From Futuro Media and PRX, it's Latino USA. I'm Maria 20 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: Kosa Today. A portrait of Gloria is Stefan. When Gloria 21 00:01:20,120 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: is Stephan's acclaimed hit Gonga came out in nineteen eighty five. 22 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 3: The rule was taken by story because that Gongan. 23 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,960 Speaker 1: At the time she was a shy but powerful front 24 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: woman to the Miami Sound Machine, the group that quickly 25 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: realized she was so much more so they changed their 26 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 1: name to Gloria Stefan and the Miami Sound Machine, and 27 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: eventually they just became the band for Glodia Stefan. The 28 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: Cuban American singer songwriter, is also a multifaceted artist and 29 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: a philanthropist. Gloria is an international icon with over one 30 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 1: hundred million records sold, thirty eight number one hits on 31 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: the Billboard charts, and she's a seven time Grammy winner. 32 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: Along with her husband Emilio, they were the first couple 33 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: to receive the Presidential Medal of Freedom, and Glaoria is 34 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: the first Cuban American to receive a Kennedy Center honor. 35 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: While her climb to the. 36 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: Top has been steadied, it hasn't always been easy. In 37 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: early nineteen ninety, at the peak of her vane, she 38 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: was in a severe bus accident during a snowstorm while 39 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: touring for her best selling album Cuts both Ways. 40 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,119 Speaker 3: It was major news. 41 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: The Fox smashed into word tour of Us, she suffered 42 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: serious spinal Injoys she now threatens the career. 43 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: She fractured her spine and it wasn't clear if she 44 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: would ever be able to walk or dance again. She 45 00:02:55,360 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 1: endured a rigorous recovery of an almost full year, but 46 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: that didn't slow her down for long. Three decades later, 47 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,839 Speaker 1: she continues her trajectory of successes with hit after hit. 48 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 3: There's also a. 49 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: Broadway Tony nominated musical Get on Your Feet, about her 50 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: and Emilia's life, and just this year, she has a 51 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,399 Speaker 1: new album and a new series on Facebook Watch. It's 52 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: called Red Table Talk, Red Table Talk The. 53 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 2: Stephans I'm the table to a whole new place. 54 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: Featuring her daughter Emily and her niece Lily Estefan. In 55 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: this continuing series we call Portrait of I sit down 56 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:39,400 Speaker 1: with the icon Gloria Stefan to discuss her life, her relationships, 57 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: how she overcomes trauma, and how after so many years 58 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: in the business she manages to be excited about everything 59 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: she does. So, Gloria, you have said that you know 60 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 1: your mom passed and it put the album Brazil three 61 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: oh five on hold, but Ultimately, you released the album 62 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 1: a few months ago, and I'm wondering if you can 63 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: talk more about how you push through that process. 64 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: So it was June twelfth, the day before it would 65 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 2: have been three years that my mom passed, that we 66 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 2: finally released the first single, which was I Married. It 67 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: took over a year before I could grieve sufficiently to 68 00:04:27,240 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 2: put the joy that was intended that I felt was 69 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 2: important to put out that single, even though it was 70 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 2: in Spanish, because I wanted to put joy and love 71 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 2: out into the universe to balance all this difficult and 72 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 2: dark time that we've all lived and are still experiencing. 73 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: And music, to me, that's its biggest, you know, offering 74 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 2: to our world that it can lift your spirits out 75 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 2: of a tough situation. It always did that for me. 76 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 1: I want to actually spend a little time talking about 77 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: your mom, because I know I've talked to you about 78 00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: your dad. Your dad died from exposure to agent orange 79 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: after he served in Vietnam. But I actually want to 80 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 1: know a little bit more about your mom. And she actually, 81 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken, she was kind of like, oh 82 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: my god, Gloria, you know work in the music business. 83 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: How's that going to be please go to university, which 84 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: you did. So she was incredibly influential in your life. 85 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:39,239 Speaker 1: But she was also at certain points like could. 86 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: You do it? 87 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 2: Was that hugely Okay, let me just say one word 88 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:48,039 Speaker 2: about my mom. She was the diva. Diva is actually 89 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,920 Speaker 2: an understatement from my mom. There was an international contest 90 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 2: held by Hollywood by the twentieth Century Fox to find 91 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 2: a girl that could sing surely temple music and dub 92 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,960 Speaker 2: her movies in Spanish and serve as her body double. 93 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: My mom won that contest, but my grandfather put his 94 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 2: foot down when they said that only one parent could 95 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,600 Speaker 2: accompany the child and have legal rights over the child 96 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 2: in Hollywood, and he absolutely refused to let my mother 97 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: go be a Hollywood star or whatever was going to 98 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 2: be in her path. So that changed. She got a 99 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 2: PhD in education, and when we came to the United States, 100 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 2: they ripped up her credentials. My dad was in the army. 101 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 2: He was a political prisoner two years in Bay of Pigs, 102 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 2: so I was alone with my mom in Miami in 103 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: later years when she got her teaching credentials and was 104 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:48,039 Speaker 2: the union rep for her school and everything. So my 105 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 2: mom was always the center of any room she entered. 106 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 2: She was funny, she sang beautifully. She was the center 107 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 2: of my life. She scrounged enough money to buy a 108 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 2: record place, and her mother would send her collection of records, 109 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,679 Speaker 2: you know, hidden in a box of mango baby food, 110 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 2: which was the only one that I would eat. So 111 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: she made sure that I was surrounded by music despite 112 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: everything that we were living. Her record collection was eclectic. 113 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 2: It had not only the grades of Cuba like Cacao Olgagi, 114 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: Llok and Celia Cruz, but it had al Triolos Banchos, 115 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: It had Javier Soliz, It had Andy Williams, Dean Martin, 116 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: Frank Sinatra, Nat King Cole. Then she had Brazilian music 117 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: because Carmen Miranda she loved. Later on there Jobim and 118 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: the Elise Regina, Klara Nunez. So she had this eclectic 119 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 2: record collection that was the base of my musical experience 120 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 2: early early on. 121 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: But also you said that your mom was really hard 122 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,840 Speaker 1: on you for wanting to take on the life of 123 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: an artist. So tell me a little bit more about that. 124 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 2: I sang and started playing guitar at eight years old. 125 00:08:12,400 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: She would make me sing for her friends. She thought 126 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: I sounded beautiful, but in no way did she want 127 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,120 Speaker 2: me to get into the business. And I didn't really 128 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 2: get into the business. I met Amelia at a friend's house. 129 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 2: So I was always going to go to school. I 130 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: love education. I was never not going to do it. 131 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 2: But when I joined the band at seventeen, let's just say, 132 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 2: my mom was not too happy I got married and 133 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 2: she thought that I'd be pulling away. And then when 134 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: I took my sister on the road, she put her 135 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 2: foot down and didn't speak to me for two years. 136 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,560 Speaker 2: So that's the kind of, you know, personality that my 137 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 2: mom had. 138 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 3: So the interesting thing for me, Gloria, is the end 139 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 3: of what you just said, which is you said me, Mama, 140 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 3: she stopped talking to you because of your And I'm 141 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 3: just like, did you pick up any of that that 142 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 3: capacity to just be like, well, you know, I'm just 143 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,440 Speaker 3: I just won't speak to my daughter for two years 144 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 3: because I'm angry. 145 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 2: No, no way, there's no way I would let that happen. 146 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 2: I mean, but if my daughter then chose not to 147 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: speak to me, can you control it. I don't think 148 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 2: that would happen either, because she knew the story about 149 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 2: her grandmother. Look it's a different thing. We have to 150 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 2: look at it in the perspective of to my mom's generation, 151 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: children were a possession pretty much. You had no say, 152 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 2: or I didn't at least I don't know about your mom. 153 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 2: But they had a phrase in Spanish which is very crass, 154 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:44,160 Speaker 2: but it says los minos alaina's man, which means children 155 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 2: talk when when chickens pee and chickens don't be, they 156 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: do it all together. 157 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 1: I heard it all the time too, like we won't 158 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:53,560 Speaker 1: need them, we won't need mayana. Oh, very very nice, 159 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 1: very nice, just go play outside. 160 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 2: Like that was exactly You're supposed to do what you're told, 161 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 2: is the bottom line. Like there were very strict rules. 162 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: And when I told my mom that I was taking 163 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 2: my sister on the road with me because I really 164 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 2: felt that my sister needed me. When my dad died, 165 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: she kind of lost it because she was so close 166 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,599 Speaker 2: to my dad and in school. Eventually she kind of 167 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 2: got distracted. Now I had been her mom all this 168 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,680 Speaker 2: time pretty much, because my mom, in turn was working 169 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: and going to school to revalidate her PhD. And I 170 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: took care of my sister. I took care of my 171 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 2: dad when I came home from school and my. 172 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: Sister, I mean, you were really like the perfect Cuban 173 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: daughter with Ano Mundo. 174 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 3: I was a rebel. I was like my sister. I 175 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 3: was oppositional. 176 00:10:41,720 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 1: And then now I'm kind of like, yo, I didn't 177 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: need to be that oppositional, which I was thinking about 178 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 1: your mom to you, but you know, your mom to you, 179 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 1: to you mothering your sister, to you becoming a mother, 180 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: And I'm just kind of wondering, like, do you under 181 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: stand your I mean, we all have this, like okay, 182 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: oh my god, I understand my mother so much more 183 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 1: or has it been more like it didn't need to 184 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:09,239 Speaker 1: be that difficult. 185 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 2: Of course, it didn't need to be that difficult. I 186 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 2: don't that part. I understand it because I understand my mother. 187 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: They were raised in a very strict tradition. She thought 188 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 2: this is how it is. And when I told her 189 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 2: after she was already missing me, I was the rock. 190 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 2: I took care of everything for her. I made sure 191 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 2: everything happened. I picked up the food at my grandma's, 192 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,720 Speaker 2: I picked up my sister at school. I took care 193 00:11:32,760 --> 00:11:36,480 Speaker 2: of my dad. So when all of a sudden, you know, 194 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 2: he was already in the hospital at this point when 195 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 2: I was starting to tour and do these things. But 196 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: when she saw first that I left, then now not 197 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: only did I leave, but now I'm taking my sister. 198 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 2: It was like, oh, who do you think you are? Like, yeah, 199 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 2: and by the way, in that time, there were no 200 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 2: cell phones, all right, let's be clear. So it was easy. 201 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 2: Since I was traveling all over the world in a 202 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:03,320 Speaker 2: million different time zones, it was easy for her to 203 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: make a point. And I would continue to call her 204 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 2: and try to connect despite her saying she wasn't going 205 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 2: to talk to me. I'd leave messages and she wouldn't 206 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:19,359 Speaker 2: answer because she was like So that was her personality, strong, determined, 207 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,120 Speaker 2: and she was never wrong. My mother would never, ever 208 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 2: in her life, admit to being wrong about anything. To 209 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 2: put it in perspective, when I had that accident, my 210 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 2: mother had not spoken to me for two years, and 211 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 2: she saw me. God, yes, she was in Yes, she 212 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 2: was in the teacher's lounge at her school. And what 213 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 2: she saw on the TV on the scroll was glorious. 214 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:45,199 Speaker 2: Stefan'm dead in buss crush. 215 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 3: Oh my god, Oh my god. 216 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 2: That was her first news of the event. She collapsed. 217 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: Her friend ran into my mom and said, Gloria, you know, 218 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: don't pay attention to that. They've already said that that 219 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 2: was a mistaken, you know thing, that yes, she's in 220 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: bad condition, but she's not dead. 221 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it's a strange thing to have your most 222 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: traumatic moment or one of your most traumatic moments. Right, 223 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: How have you understood your ability to process trauma in 224 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: your life? 225 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: Well, first of all, I'm I think I'm very resilient. 226 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 2: I remember being very young and feeling very old, like 227 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 2: I've felt younger as my life has progressed, because as 228 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: a kid, I felt like I've been around a long time. 229 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,040 Speaker 2: I don't know how else to say it. And then 230 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:39,079 Speaker 2: with all the responsibility, I think that really shored me up, 231 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 2: to tell you the truth. And I've always been a 232 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 2: person that is a bit psychic. You know, we all are, 233 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: all right, But I really listened to the universe and 234 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 2: the messages coming to me. And it's funny because Emilie 235 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 2: and I when we finally moved into this house, I 236 00:13:56,480 --> 00:13:58,679 Speaker 2: put an elevator in this house and he would say, 237 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:00,960 Speaker 2: why do you need an eli It's one floor and 238 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: I would say, well, you know, we need we have 239 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 2: bags and it's much easier to have something to bring 240 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 2: down all the bags, and you know, and the people 241 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 2: that clean maybe they needed for I made excuses, but 242 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 2: in my heart, I knew that I was going to 243 00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 2: need one day that elevator. And when we would run 244 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 2: up those stairs, I would get this flash and say, 245 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 2: one day, you're not going to be able to do this. No, no, 246 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 2: But then I would get another immediate wave, but it's 247 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: going to be okay. Now. You got to realize that 248 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,480 Speaker 2: being paralyzed is a common fear because my dad was 249 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 2: in a wheelchair. So I lived this experience every day 250 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: of my life, and I knew what it meant to 251 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: have someone in a wheelchair. 252 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 1: It is my dad, right, because that's something that I 253 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: wasn't I don't think I ever remember kind of having 254 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: a fear of becoming paralyzed. But you're saying you basically 255 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:53,560 Speaker 1: you were living with that for. 256 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 2: Real exactly, and you tend to, you know, fear, Oh 257 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: my god, what if this would happen to me? Like 258 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: when I had that accident that I was on the 259 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 2: floor of the bus that I had just woken up. 260 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 2: I was taking a nap on the couch in the 261 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 2: front to rest up for the concert, and all of 262 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 2: a sudden, I opened my eyes because the bus stopped, 263 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 2: and I thought we had arrived in Syracuse at the place. 264 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 2: But when I look out that we were stopped in 265 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,920 Speaker 2: traffic and then boomed, there was an explosion. So I 266 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 2: was awake, but I don't remember the actual moment of 267 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: getting injured. Two seconds later, I'm on the floor of 268 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 2: the bus and I'm looking up and I'm going what happened? 269 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: It was like one of these crazy scenes. Emilo's looking 270 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 2: over me all bloody. The bus drivers caught in the 271 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 2: steering wheel, and it's snowing inside the bus. We had 272 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 2: crashed into a flatbed truck loaded with steel cable that 273 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 2: had unraveled and literally sliced the front of the bush, 274 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 2: which helped. It helped me because it put me into 275 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,800 Speaker 2: a state. Now, they put you on ice first thing. 276 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: So for the hour and a half off it took 277 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: for them pramids to get to us, I was freezing. 278 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 2: And that's what they do now. Well, baby afraid. 279 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 4: If imb no, life is never At that moment, while 280 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 4: I was laying on the floor of the bus, so 281 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 4: many thoughts went to my head. 282 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:22,160 Speaker 2: My first thought, where's the baby? Naid my son, who 283 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 2: was eight years old. So I said it to a media, 284 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: I go find the baby because I couldn't hear anything. 285 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 2: There was no sound. So I hear Emilia yelling for him, 286 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 2: and I was holding my breath literally. You know, there's 287 00:16:34,960 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 2: where the bargaining begins. God, please let him be okay. 288 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 2: I don't care what happens to me. Please, I don't care. 289 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 2: I'll deal with my own situation, but please let my 290 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 2: son be okay. So then I heard him daddy. So 291 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 2: then he sat him next to me and I held 292 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 2: his hand and he kept saying, Mommy, please get up, 293 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 2: and you know, I go, baby, I can't get up 294 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,520 Speaker 2: right now. You know, I saw he was going into shock. 295 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 2: All I was thinking of got to keep him sane 296 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 2: until we get help. 297 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 3: You're likem to tell you. 298 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,680 Speaker 2: I mean, that's my number one thing in life, and 299 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: I that helped me get past this. So then the 300 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 2: pain was excruciating, which also gave me some hope because 301 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 2: I knew that if I didn't feel pain, it would 302 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 2: have severed the cord. A nurse came into the door 303 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,760 Speaker 2: that was two cars back or a car behind us 304 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: and said, I'm a nurse. Does anybody need help. And 305 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 2: I told her I think I broke my back and 306 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:32,640 Speaker 2: I would grab my legs and pull them up because 307 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 2: that would alleviate the pain a little bit. And then 308 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: she said, Okay, you can't do this, and she sat 309 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 2: behind me. She grabbed my head and became a human brace. 310 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,920 Speaker 2: She put my head on her loud and she goes, 311 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,120 Speaker 2: no matter how much it hurts, you cannot move, may 312 00:17:46,200 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 2: not make it. 313 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 4: Fine. 314 00:17:56,400 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 2: Listen is a lode it shine. 315 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 1: Coming up on Latino U s a our portrait of Ladia. 316 00:18:09,480 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: Stephan continues, stay with us, not the y yes ship. Hey, 317 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,359 Speaker 1: we're back. And when we left off, we were talking 318 00:19:09,400 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 1: with Gloria Stefan about that horrific moment in her life, 319 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: the bus accident in early nineteen ninety and how it 320 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: changed her forever. Let's jump back into the conversation. You're 321 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 1: talking about this, and actually the way you even talk 322 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 1: about it now is so kind of precise. Prote dio, Gloria, 323 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: what you just said to me about being psychic, about 324 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: the elevator, about knowing, So can you make that connection 325 00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: between like trauma and the psychic spiritual part of you? 326 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 2: So here is the connection. So when I open my 327 00:19:47,200 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 2: eyes and I look up and I'm facing the roof 328 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 2: of the bus and I'm going, what the hell, I'm 329 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 2: on the floor. I try to stand up and I can't. 330 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 2: So it's like, oh, here it is. But then I 331 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 2: got but it's going to be okay. That's what I 332 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,600 Speaker 2: clung to. That's what I clung to. All Right, I 333 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 2: heard of it? 334 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 3: So was it? 335 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 2: So? 336 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: Was it in your head? Were you speaking to yourself? 337 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: They gave, Oh my god, this is it, Entia. 338 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 2: It's a certainty that I feel. That's how the things 339 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 2: that I have felt that have come true because I've 340 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 2: said a lot of things to me. You know, this 341 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 2: is going to happen. This is going to happen. I 342 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 2: don't know how, I don't know when, but it's going 343 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 2: to happen. 344 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:30,479 Speaker 1: And Emilio, Emilio connects to your this psychic thing that 345 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: you get this. I mean, you're he's cool with it. 346 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:35,400 Speaker 1: Here's like very much. 347 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 2: He has it too, Emilio. It's not Look everybody has it. Yeah, yeah, 348 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 2: it's we all if you tune in, Yes, you know 349 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 2: that gut feeling they call it a gut feeling. Ideally, 350 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 2: when we make a decision, all the senses and the 351 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 2: gut are working together. But if I have to decide, 352 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: I'll decide the gut over the senses. 353 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: So, Gloria, here's the thing. I want you to talk 354 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 1: for a moment a little bit about this spirituality, this 355 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:04,480 Speaker 1: psychic as you call it. I'm thinking about the traditions, 356 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: the Afro Cuban traditions of course, whether it's Santirio or 357 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: Yoruba or just an understanding of like fyodisha is, like 358 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: you know how important nature is to rooting us, you know, 359 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 1: never forgetting your ancestors. And I'm just wondering, like, are 360 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: you more deeply spiritual about these things as you're getting older, 361 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: and are you even freer to make then? Is it 362 00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: feeling safer for you in this kind of spiritual realm? 363 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 2: Well, I got to tell you, Look, I'm very spiritual, 364 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,359 Speaker 2: but I am not dogmatic. I respect all religions. I 365 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 2: look at the religion of the Yoduba tribe from Cuba, 366 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 2: and interestingly enough, with this latest album Brazil three o five, 367 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 2: we shot a documentary that explores these roots and how 368 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 2: Cuba and Brazil share this common Yoduba tribe and how 369 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 2: they transform the music of each country. But at the 370 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:02,360 Speaker 2: core is Africa of all these amazing rhythms. So I 371 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 2: see it in a cultural way. I don't follow. I mean, 372 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 2: I was raised Catholic. I admire and I respect all religions, 373 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 2: and I see them mostly as a cultural way to 374 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 2: translate the God concept. I do believe in a higher power. 375 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:24,440 Speaker 2: My belief is that everything that could possibly unfold will 376 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 2: and it'll all go back like and it have been 377 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,240 Speaker 2: aflow and we are all just a tiny little cog 378 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,959 Speaker 2: in this wheel. So to me, the main religion is 379 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 2: treating other people with respect and love, trying to put 380 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 2: positive things into the balance of nature, and music being 381 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 2: the prime source to do that for me, being able 382 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 2: to communicate with other people, trying to inspire them. 383 00:22:57,800 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 3: You and Emilia have been. 384 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 2: Forty two married and forty four together, and then one 385 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 2: more that he was my boss forty five. 386 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 1: Yes, so I'm thinking about that relationship. I'm thinking about 387 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: how you take this legacy of your mother and your 388 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 1: father and how you have understood that in your relationship 389 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: with Emilio. So how do you understand when so far 390 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 1: dom being so, how do you understand like what you 391 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:34,199 Speaker 1: brought from to my mind? Bye to your relationship with 392 00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: Emilio that has allowed you to remain in love and 393 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: together all of these years. 394 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 2: Okay, well, I have to give the credit where credit 395 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 2: is due. Emilio is an amazing human being and we 396 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 2: have a wonderful relationship. It's usually up to the woman 397 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 2: to keep the emotional conversation going because men are not 398 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 2: like that. And at the beginning he was. He's the 399 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 2: kind of guy that he doesn't like to talk when 400 00:23:57,680 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 2: he's upset or whatever, and I'm the person that doesn't 401 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:02,199 Speaker 2: want to go to bed angry. So there was a 402 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,640 Speaker 2: lot at the beginning of not that we The good 403 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 2: news is that we didn't argue a lot, and I 404 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 2: think that helps a lot. The fact that I didn't 405 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,160 Speaker 2: even think I would get married. Honestly, Maria, I went 406 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: through so much with my dad and I wanted to 407 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 2: experience life. I didn't have a social life as a teenager, 408 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 2: so I wanted to go study. When I graduated from UM, 409 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 2: I graduated a year early and I had been accepted 410 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: to Sorbonne and I wanted to study international law and diplomacy. 411 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 2: So in my eyes, it was like live live live, 412 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 2: because I had been so encased for so long and 413 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 2: then Emilio comes along and he was my boss for 414 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 2: a year. Like I said, we dated for two years 415 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 2: when that started. Because I have a theory that it 416 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 2: takes at least three years for you to really know somebody. 417 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 2: Eventually something is going to come out that you're gonna 418 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 2: know them better. 419 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 3: I love the three year market. 420 00:24:57,119 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 2: For me. It's three years minimum, all right. So by 421 00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 2: the time I married Amelio, I had no doubt in 422 00:25:03,400 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 2: my mind that I wanted to be married forever. But 423 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 2: we rarely argue because we're on the same page about business, 424 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 2: about music, about our family, about our priorities. 425 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 5: Right. 426 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: But you know what, but the not fighting in the 427 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 1: not Big Green is actually, in my view, a very 428 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: conscious decision on the part of the members of Esa Pareha. 429 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 3: You're also going to let things. 430 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: Slide, you know, of course, you know what, like just 431 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: like I'm not going to pick that fight. So let 432 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: me ask you this, when there were moments of challenge 433 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: in any relationship, was that you were Emilio that basically 434 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: said we're going to do this. 435 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:42,800 Speaker 2: I think it's inherent in the balance of male female 436 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:47,440 Speaker 2: that generally, and I hate generalizations, but women I think 437 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:52,479 Speaker 2: are more have a bigger emotional vocabulary than men. And 438 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 2: that's why sometimes we're at odds because Emilio, when he's angry, 439 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,959 Speaker 2: he's just not listening. So I had to learn that 440 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 2: and just wait till calm down. But it was both 441 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,680 Speaker 2: of us. I don't think there was ever one of us. 442 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 2: I let him take his time because he needs his time, 443 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 2: and then when he comes back, then I sit down 444 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 2: and I do I read him the little letter as 445 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 2: we say lelia, which means, okay, this is what happened, 446 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 2: we need to talk about it. I had to learn 447 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,639 Speaker 2: that dynamic at the beginning. We were two different people 448 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,359 Speaker 2: in that way. And that's also the secret to a 449 00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 2: happy marriage. 450 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:30,959 Speaker 3: Okay, wait, because I was going to ask you, I 451 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:31,240 Speaker 3: was like. 452 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 2: I have that listen. That's in my estimation, what is 453 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 2: the sacret If you're each taking care of the other one, 454 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,160 Speaker 2: you're both taken care of you know egos. Once you're 455 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 2: a couple, it's not that you have to say, oh, 456 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 2: everything is about the other person. But if if for 457 00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 2: you it's about the other person and for them it's 458 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 2: about you, then it's cool. Ego out and you know 459 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 2: you're both taking care of it. In a beautiful way, 460 00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 2: and that's the way it's. 461 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: Been, Stephan I said it very simple, ego out mm hmm. 462 00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 2: Listen, we both want to be married. We're in love 463 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 2: with each other. The things we've gone through, the traumas, 464 00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 2: have only brought us closer together. And that can tell 465 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 2: you a boy. 466 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: You know, you're breaking you ground again, Gloria, you're you know, 467 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:21,440 Speaker 1: such a symbol for so many of us in how 468 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: to live a life that is fearless, that is full 469 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:24,240 Speaker 1: of love. 470 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,919 Speaker 3: And you've launched this new series. 471 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: It's called Red Table Talks and it's with your family, 472 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: they Stephans. So this is new. It's on Facebook Watch. 473 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: You're co hosting with your daughter Emily and your niece Lily. 474 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 1: Is Stefan Claudo, lave flaga, lave laca. 475 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 2: Three different women, three different generations. We're loud, we're proud. 476 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 3: Let's go. 477 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: We're talking about relationships, love, sexuality. 478 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,639 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, why did you feel like you wanted 479 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: to do this now? I mean in terms of Latina, 480 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think it's like, yes, Ora, 481 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 1: we talk about this multi generationally and not be afraid 482 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: of the shame. And look, I said, for you, what 483 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 1: is that is that what's motivating this right now. 484 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 2: Well, in one of my songs Always Tomorrow, there's a 485 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 2: line that says things will never stay the same. The 486 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 2: only one sure thing is change. 487 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:25,199 Speaker 6: There's it's not. 488 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 2: And we can't be afraid of it. We have to 489 00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 2: embrace it, especially now post COVID and post pandemic, which 490 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:39,719 Speaker 2: we aren't there yet, but so much change is going 491 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 2: to come from this. It's like nature, like turning things 492 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 2: on its head. So this is the perfect format for me. 493 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,959 Speaker 2: It's an open conversation, it's three generations of women. And 494 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 2: you know, especially since three years ago, Emily came out 495 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 2: very publicly, and we've never spoken about these things in 496 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,959 Speaker 2: public because personally, to me it was a non issue, 497 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,719 Speaker 2: but it was not a non issue to her, and 498 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 2: she was going through some things that I had no 499 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:10,959 Speaker 2: clue were happening. And just like us, there are gazillion 500 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 2: families out there, likewise with Laflaca, with her very public 501 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 2: divorce that she was thrust into. And I think being 502 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 2: a family that has been in this business for a 503 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 2: long time, it's kind of like welcoming people into our family. 504 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 2: It gives me freedom, So I think it's a good opportunity. 505 00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 2: And this wouldn't have happened before in my life because 506 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 2: I was focusing on so many things that were important 507 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,479 Speaker 2: to focus on. But particularly now in my life, I 508 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 2: really want to continue to broaden that communication with my 509 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 2: fans worldwide in a different way, in a more thoughtful way, 510 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,200 Speaker 2: in a deeper way, in a way that we connect 511 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 2: as human beings like the accident did. Because let me 512 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: tell you something, I was at the peak of my 513 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 2: fame when that accident happened. But because of how people 514 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 2: saw me live through the experience as a person, as 515 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 2: a human being, the connection was made much deeper and different, 516 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 2: which that you know, it was incredibly. 517 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 6: Just one moment. 518 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 2: It's the sky from that one moment in my life. 519 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 3: I'm not a bit. 520 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 2: All right. 521 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:28,000 Speaker 1: So one last question, what would you say to that 522 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: younger There was that younger Gloria, you know, who was 523 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: just like me. Boy, it's gonna be amazing and I'm 524 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: gonna do you know, I'm gonna be free, I'm gonna 525 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: be that American independent woman. 526 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 3: But what would you say? 527 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: What would be the piece of advice you would give 528 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,640 Speaker 1: to that Gloria about her life? 529 00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 2: Then I would say she lax and enjoy because I 530 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 2: was going against my nature. My nature is not to 531 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 2: be the center of attention. I had to suffer through that. 532 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:57,959 Speaker 2: But I also like to do things well. So if 533 00:30:58,000 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 2: I was going to be the frontman of a band, 534 00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 2: I was to find a way to pull every possible 535 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 2: thing out of myself that I could. I found ways 536 00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 2: to be able to channel my reticence for being in 537 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 2: the center spotlight and just bring out what music made 538 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 2: me feel. And that's what I would say. I would say, listen, 539 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 2: be in the moment, because a lot of those moments 540 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 2: I was getting through them. And sometimes I would be 541 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 2: looking over people's heads in the audience because if I 542 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 2: looked at their faces, I was going to be petrified. 543 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 2: And I missed a lot. And I tell that to 544 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 2: my daughter. I go, there are parts of my life 545 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:37,800 Speaker 2: that I don't even remember because it was all such 546 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 2: a crazy roller coaster and I was just trying to 547 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 2: get past this to get to the next thing and 548 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 2: the next thing and the next thing. And I told her, 549 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 2: quite honestly, you may not get a next thing. So 550 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 2: whatever you're doing, be in that moment, look into people's eyes, 551 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 2: make that connection. I just wish if I had anything 552 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 2: to do different, That's the one thing I would do. 553 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 2: But then again, you only learn that by going through 554 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 2: the process, because who's gonna tell me that. You know, 555 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 2: even if you live a long life. I tell people 556 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 2: all the time I go, even if I live a 557 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 2: long life, I'll be done soon. So you know, we 558 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 2: need to wait a minute. 559 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 3: Butter on, all of these guys, I see what I want. 560 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 2: But it's a fact. It's a fact. Why why don't 561 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 2: we like to deal with it? Why why does Western 562 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 2: civilization not even acknowledge the only thing that's. 563 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: Sure the reason why I didn't want you to say it, 564 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you, Superstision. 565 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 2: You know what I've learned that fear is something that 566 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,880 Speaker 2: I do not want anywhere near me because I manifested 567 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 2: the biggest fear that I had in my life, pretty 568 00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 2: much being paralyzed, and I got over it, and I 569 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 2: thought to myself in that whole, you know, while I 570 00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 2: was recuperating from that accident, and I thought, maybe this 571 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 2: was the reason I became famous. I mean, the fame 572 00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 2: came along with doing music, which I love. But I go, 573 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 2: maybe this is my opportunity because I'm famous to connect 574 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 2: on this whole other level with people. It is what 575 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 2: it is. You know. Alimost died at thirty three. Every 576 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,239 Speaker 2: day after that is a gift. Thirty two actually had 577 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 2: yet turned thirty three, So everything after that is a gift. 578 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: And we are so happy that that gift has been 579 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: given to the whole world, and that you gifted me 580 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: beautiful conversation. 581 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 3: Claudia. 582 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 1: I'm so thankful that we were able to spend this 583 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: time together and that you took us into your life 584 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,560 Speaker 1: a little bit. Thank you so much for speaking with 585 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: me on Latino USA. 586 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 2: Thank you and thank everybody that has given me so 587 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 2: many decades of love and support. I could not have 588 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,160 Speaker 2: done it without. 589 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 6: You, and takes so much job. 590 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 2: It takes time. 591 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 1: This episode was produced by Gini Montalbo and edited by 592 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: Andrea Lopez Gruzado. 593 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 3: It was mixed by Julia Caruso. 594 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 1: The Latino USA team includes Marta Martinez, Daisy Contreres, Mike Sargent, 595 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:22,040 Speaker 1: Victoria Estrada, Rinaldo Leanos Junior, Patricia Sulvanan, with help from 596 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 1: Raoul Perez. Our editorial director is Fernandes Santos. Our director 597 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:30,160 Speaker 1: of engineering is Stephanie lebau Our Associate engineers are jj 598 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:31,440 Speaker 1: Krubin and Gabriel A. 599 00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 3: Byez. Our marketing manager is Res Luna. 600 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:38,799 Speaker 1: Our New York Women's Foundation fellow is Elizabeth Lowenthal Torres. 601 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: Our theme music was composed by Zane RINOs. I'm your 602 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 1: host and executive producer Mariao Josa. Join us again on 603 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: our next episode. In the meantime, look for us on 604 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 1: all of your social media and remember not tebayas Astra 605 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: approxima Bye. 606 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 5: Funding for Latino USA is coverage of a culture of 607 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 5: health is made possible in part by a grant from 608 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 5: the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. Latino USA is made possible 609 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 5: in part by the Annie E. Casey Foundation. Creates a 610 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 5: brighter future for the nation's children by strengthening families, building 611 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 5: greater economic opportunity, and transforming communities and California Endowment building 612 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 5: a strong state by improving the health of all Californians. 613 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: Since summer ended, Gloria has been struggled. Oh, Gloria, Stephan, 614 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: We're struggling to secure for no wrong, wrong, Okay,