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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Cutting the Distance podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm Derk Durham and today Jason Phelps and I we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about bears, bulls and bs.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like to me, I like it.

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Speaker 3: I like it.

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Speaker 4: You you made that PG on how we thought we

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Speaker 4: were gonna do that intro, But no, I thought I

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Speaker 4: was driving this podcast. You you gave a moment of

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Speaker 4: silence and you just took off with it.

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Speaker 3: So this is great, this is great.

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Speaker 1: Well, you tried to tell me I was going to

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Speaker 1: do it, and then then I said I don't want

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Speaker 1: to do it, and then and I'm like, all right,

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Speaker 1: it's just gonna do it.

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Speaker 3: Oh that worked out great. This means you're responsible for

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Speaker 3: this thing turning out.

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Speaker 2: Now I have to ask all the questions, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is awesome. I appreciate it. No, no,

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Speaker 3: we have.

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Speaker 4: You know, last week we got together, talked about our dads,

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Speaker 4: how tough they were, and yeah, we've been on some hunts.

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Speaker 4: We haven't really did it recap on much of our

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Speaker 4: Turkey hunts, much of our bear hunts, much of our

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Speaker 4: plans this year, and so it'll be good to talk

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Speaker 4: kind of let everybody know where things are at and

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Speaker 4: maybe even sprinkling kind of these ELK category. You know,

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Speaker 4: by time this comes out, I guess, well easy one

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Speaker 4: bit about everything going on and our hunts and hunts

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Speaker 4: coming up.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, it's been kind of a crazy busy spring.

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Speaker 1: It seems like, man, I haven't had a chance to

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Speaker 1: put my head up or anything. I haven't posted about

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Speaker 1: my Alaska bear trip on social or nothing. I've just

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Speaker 1: been just digging. It's been busy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, a lot of you know.

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Speaker 4: Within we I hate to use the word corporate, but

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Speaker 4: you know, working for a big company, you know, things

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Speaker 4: are always changing and turning. Dirk's got a new boss,

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Speaker 4: I've got new and so it's like processes changed, which

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Speaker 4: always you're.

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Speaker 3: Not comfortable with.

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Speaker 4: And so yeah, Dirk's running a million miles a minute

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Speaker 4: getting all our marketing stuff. And We've got a lot

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Speaker 4: of ELK expansion this year. I've got a bunch of

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Speaker 4: new processes, new power points, this and that, you know how,

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Speaker 4: and so yeah, it's just been it just seems busy,

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Speaker 4: extremely busy, and it's all work related.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know what they say, you can't teach an

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Speaker 1: old dog new tricks, and that's that's wrong.

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Speaker 2: That's that's a fallacy. Now you can mean that I'm

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Speaker 2: an old dog. It's just not fun though.

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Speaker 1: My old, poor old brain has to learn anything new,

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Speaker 1: like a new platform to to make documents and stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's just it just just seizes up and the little

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Speaker 1: spinning wheel goes round and around and I kind of

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Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, I feel like I've got amnesia or

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Speaker 1: not amniesia, but dementia or something.

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's bad. But you know, once you.

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Speaker 1: Blow off all the old cobwebs, you know, things start

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Speaker 1: working and he's got to dig in. And once you

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Speaker 1: kind of it just takes a minute. Once you get

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Speaker 1: the understanding, it seems like, okay, I get this, and

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Speaker 1: it's just data entry at that point.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we've we've crushed it. Everything's going really good. All

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Speaker 4: launches have went great, all the assets. So no appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: But I also was on a spring bear hunt. I

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Speaker 4: had the speaking of you know, dust and the cobwebs off.

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Speaker 4: I had to run a camera again, which we've all

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Speaker 4: we all know I'm not very good at hold on.

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Speaker 3: I'm hold on. I opened this wide open for you, Dirk.

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Speaker 2: You did.

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Speaker 1: You stepped right in it. So back in twenty fourteen,

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Speaker 1: our good friend Charlie, his wife Kelly, she drew an

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Speaker 1: amazing ELK tag in Washington that was fourteen, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you know Charlie was the caller. You know, Charlie

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Speaker 1: and Kelly are main diaphragm called builders here at Phelps

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Speaker 1: and anyway, she had this tag. Charlie was calling, She

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Speaker 1: was the shooter, and Jason Phelps was the camera guy.

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Speaker 1: And as Jason and I watched this film together here

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Speaker 1: I don't know, must have been like a year ago,

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Speaker 1: He's just like, look at that, Dirk.

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Speaker 2: I am a I'm like the best camera guy you've

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Speaker 2: ever seen. Look at that. I'm getting all the shots.

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Speaker 2: Look at that slow motion shot. Look at this. I

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had I had a glidecam. Ye run through

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Speaker 5: That was back before gimbals, right, yeah, yeah, you had

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Speaker 5: the lens and just crushing it basically, is what you're saying. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: so you know you told me you were like the

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Speaker 5: best videographer ever.

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Speaker 2: But then something changed.

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Speaker 3: For Yeah, I Copps.

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Speaker 4: I don't like to say I'm above something, but at

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Speaker 4: times I'm like I just want to hunt, Like I

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Speaker 4: don't want to run this turn this button on and

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Speaker 3: And no. But so fast forward to this year.

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Speaker 4: Budgets, you're a little tighter, you know, you're trying to

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Speaker 4: And so Tyson he's going to Idaho on a spring

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Speaker 4: bear hunting and we're like, uh, nobody else is going.

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Speaker 4: I don't I'm I haven't been there in this area

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Speaker 3: There lots of bears.

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Speaker 4: The best part was, you know, even though it's supposed

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Speaker 4: Like it's information gathering and and it's like that top

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Speaker 4: So we we knew. We set up, we looked at

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Speaker 3: We had never been there.

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Speaker 4: Dirk knew the area a little bit, but it was

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Speaker 3: Maybe more than that that we didn't. We tried not

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Speaker 4: Bears that we knew we had seen multiple times. But

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Speaker 4: We didn't see a bear to shoot until the very

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Speaker 3: And the funny part.

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Speaker 2: Big enough ones they were, they were big enough, they

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definite bores. You know, end of May, they

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Speaker 4: in the springtime. The other thing that we struggle with

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Speaker 3: So it's something else you're working with.

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Speaker 4: So every bear we'd spot, you know, it's a mad

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Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, by the skin of your.

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Speaker 4: we were in an onion patch where died. Tyson kind

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Speaker 4: So one of those weird things. I'm like, I don't

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Speaker 2: Gotcha, gotcha?

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Speaker 1: It's you know, there's a lot of land out there

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and the elk there were a lot of elk

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Speaker 3: And this lets me.

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Speaker 4: Well fed because they don't give a that it could

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Speaker 4: It was mixed, Like I was trying, you know, the

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Speaker 1: Now, were the bears getting the bulbs of the wild

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Speaker 3: Yep, yep, they go for the bulbs, so they'll I

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00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:39,520
Speaker 3: think they eat it all. I don't you know.

439
00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:40,920
Speaker 4: We didn't go through a patch where you could see

440
00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,679
Speaker 4: where they just pop the bulbs off, but definitely big

441
00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,359
Speaker 4: sections when you'd go through the wild onions where they

442
00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:50,000
Speaker 4: would dig and I'm almost wanted to like if I

443
00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:51,679
Speaker 4: could tell the bears like you guys are over digging,

444
00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:53,960
Speaker 4: like these bulbs aren't a foot and a half deep, but.

445
00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:55,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're really shallow.

446
00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:59,439
Speaker 4: It was crazy like I've seen I've seen areas, you

447
00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:01,520
Speaker 4: know in the past spring bears, a lot of spring

448
00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,280
Speaker 4: bear hunts in the blues where they'll roll rocks and

449
00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:06,879
Speaker 4: they'll dig around a little bit. These bears, they you

450
00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,639
Speaker 4: could see like there was a hole in the left

451
00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:10,479
Speaker 4: and a hole in the right where they were like,

452
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,000
Speaker 4: you know, if you can imagine they're like trying to

453
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 4: dig two tunnel where their hands are, you know, their

454
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:14,159
Speaker 4: paws are going to.

455
00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,359
Speaker 3: Connect, but they would have You could see.

456
00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:18,680
Speaker 4: Where like the left paw would pole in the right

457
00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:20,840
Speaker 4: paw would pole. And we could figure out if a

458
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,640
Speaker 4: bear was left handed right handed by how deep each

459
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:25,679
Speaker 4: hole was. We had a big brown bear that was

460
00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,439
Speaker 4: definitely left handed because he was pulling more with his

461
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,640
Speaker 4: left hole. But just kidding, but they were digging super deep,

462
00:20:31,680 --> 00:20:33,120
Speaker 4: and I don't know if there's something else down there

463
00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:34,239
Speaker 4: obviously they're looking for.

464
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:36,960
Speaker 3: But yeah, the onion bulbs. When you're trying to track

465
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:39,320
Speaker 3: those down, you know, you hold on and then you

466
00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:41,000
Speaker 3: kind of dig around them and dig that up. They're

467
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,840
Speaker 3: only an inch or inch and a half deep.

468
00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,119
Speaker 2: Typically, huh. So that sounds like a fun hunt.

469
00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:47,480
Speaker 3: You know.

470
00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,000
Speaker 1: I was supposed to go with you guys and be

471
00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:53,680
Speaker 1: camera guy, and that didn't pan out. My Alaska trip

472
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:54,960
Speaker 1: was too close.

473
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:56,720
Speaker 2: Had had to bail.

474
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I could have went, but man, I had

475
00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,960
Speaker 1: so much preparation and work and we've just been busy

476
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 1: at work. There was no way to skip out of

477
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 1: my work responsibilities and do both.

478
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,240
Speaker 4: So yeah, yeah, So Derek his hunts more recent. He

479
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,159
Speaker 4: was up in Alaska a little bit later. So go

480
00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:12,720
Speaker 4: ahead and give.

481
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,320
Speaker 3: Us a little rundown on on the Alaska Black Yeah.

482
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, So.

483
00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 1: I got invited on this hunt with Christians and arms

484
00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:22,159
Speaker 1: up in Alaska.

485
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 2: Flew into Valdez, Alaska. You've probably heard of that place.

486
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 1: They I think they have like one of the one

487
00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 1: of the or one of the biggest, the biggest oil

488
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,359
Speaker 1: refineries in the world are at least the United States. There,

489
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 1: it's it's it's Alaska. Man, it's beautiful. You fly in

490
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,119
Speaker 1: and you come into this big valley or kind of

491
00:21:43,119 --> 00:21:47,399
Speaker 1: a big bay, and there's mountains and greenery and snow

492
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 1: capped peaks and and ocean water and man, it's it's cool.

493
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,600
Speaker 1: And it's just a tiny little town. It's a pretty

494
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 1: small town. My guide, Caleb, I think he said there's

495
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: two thousand people. Four thousand people, But I was like, really,

496
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 1: because it seems like there's like two hundred people. It's

497
00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,399
Speaker 1: a pretty small town. But you know, I think you

498
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 1: don't the way it lays out, you don't see like

499
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:11,680
Speaker 1: the residential area too much.

500
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 2: But but anyhow, flew up.

501
00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 1: To Alaska to hunt black bears, and the initial plan

502
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,199
Speaker 1: was to get there and then fly in on a

503
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 1: bush plane into this particular area to hunt. But there again,

504
00:22:28,600 --> 00:22:31,439
Speaker 1: back to what you said about early spring here in

505
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,520
Speaker 1: Idaho and snow lines being high and bears being in

506
00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:40,080
Speaker 1: different places and kind of spread out, That's exactly what

507
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:41,959
Speaker 1: was going on there. So our initial place that we

508
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 1: were going to go, the snow line was so high

509
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 1: that the guide in the outfitter were like, there's no

510
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,000
Speaker 1: way you're going to have a good bear hunt. They're

511
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:51,159
Speaker 1: going to be too dispersed. They're going to be at

512
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 1: the top of the mountain. We got to go to

513
00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 1: a different area, so we had to We took a

514
00:22:55,119 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 1: boat ride and got to an area that or the

515
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,919
Speaker 1: snow line, you know, you know, the face, the direction

516
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 1: the mountain range was facing and such just kind of

517
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: lended itself to having a better snowpack lower.

518
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,440
Speaker 2: So we got a boat ride to there, but still

519
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:22,000
Speaker 2: the the snowpack was still really high. It was super high.

520
00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 2: So we get there.

521
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 1: You know, on a typical year, the snowpack's really low,

522
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: so bears are going to feed on the shoreline. So

523
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 1: as the tides go out, bears go down on the shoreline.

524
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 1: They're looking for yungy stuff that washed up. They'll eat help,

525
00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:39,879
Speaker 1: they'll eat.

526
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,480
Speaker 2: Other little things, probably molluscs I had imagined. I don't know,

527
00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 2: I don't know.

528
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 1: Maybe that that may not come out very good on

529
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: the on the backside when if you eat like little mollusks,

530
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,719
Speaker 1: I don't know, but typically that's the mode of operation.

531
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 1: Hut on the shorelines, come down and eat the green

532
00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: grasses and shoots and stuff on the shore lines. But man,

533
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 1: the snow level even where we were hunting was pretty high,

534
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: so we had to had to hike around a little

535
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:09,199
Speaker 1: bit every day. And this particular part of Alaska, and

536
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:12,200
Speaker 1: I've heard about Alaska kind of being like this or

537
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 1: different places. It's like walking on a big wet sponge.

538
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 1: So every step you take, your foot sinks in till

539
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 1: about the level of the top of your foot, and

540
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,479
Speaker 1: most of it water was over the top of your

541
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 1: foot or real close. So every step is squishy, gushy

542
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,760
Speaker 1: and takes a lot of efforts. So man, I wish

543
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:41,280
Speaker 1: I'd have done more more step ups, some going on this,

544
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:47,639
Speaker 1: some lunges and stairclimbs and stuff, because man, it it was.

545
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 2: It was hard.

546
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: It's just like, man, you just put a ton of

547
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 1: effort to go anywhere in this kind of in this

548
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: kind of terrain. So every more, you know, And then

549
00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 1: i'd heard about this, but I didn't really know, you know,

550
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 1: time a year and dates, but i'd heard about, you know,

551
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: Land of the Midnight Sun or whatever. Man, it'd be

552
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: midnight and it still wasn't dark.

553
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 2: It was kind of.

554
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: Dusky, So that would really screw with you at nighttime

555
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: when you go to bed, you'd be like, all right,

556
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to bed, and it's pretty light in

557
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 1: my tent, and you wake up, Oh it's time to

558
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: get up. No, it's two in the morning.

559
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 2: You wake up, Oh, I got to get up. No

560
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 2: it's four o'clock or three o'clock.

561
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,959
Speaker 1: And so, you know, we'd hunt and go to bed

562
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: about midnight every day, you know, trying to you know,

563
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: take advantage of those you know, late evening bear movements.

564
00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 1: But the first couple of days were pretty nice. You know,

565
00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 1: we had some rain flurries off and on, but for

566
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,160
Speaker 1: the most part there was some some nice sunny weather

567
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 1: first couple of days two first two or three days,

568
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 1: and the evening of the third day the rain kind

569
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,359
Speaker 1: of moved in and man, it rain most of the

570
00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: time the rest of the trip, so which I don't know,

571
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: I bears are kind of like me, you know, one

572
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 1: of us like raining that much. But it is what

573
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: it is, right, so, you know, and I planned for

574
00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: ray and it took all rain gear and you just

575
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,239
Speaker 1: kind of like, we're just gonna get wet, and you know,

576
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: it didn't. It didn't disappoint you know, we did get wet,

577
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: so mode of operation was so since then we sat

578
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,640
Speaker 1: and watched the shorelines the first couple of days, and man,

579
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: we did we're just not seeing bears. We saw one

580
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: bear on the shoreline about a mile and a half

581
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,239
Speaker 1: away as the crow flies, but about three miles if

582
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: you were to walk the shoreline, so there's no.

583
00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 3: Way to catch up to it.

584
00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:41,760
Speaker 2: It was just it was on the movie.

585
00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: It showed itself for about thirty seconds and was gone.

586
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:48,679
Speaker 1: So it's like, well, we're gonna have to get up

587
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 1: high and try to glass them up at a distance

588
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,239
Speaker 1: kind of figure out where these things are living. So

589
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:55,960
Speaker 1: we got pretty high and we could glass up this big,

590
00:26:56,119 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 1: huge drainage and there was a couple avalanche shoots and

591
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 1: we spotted a bear in that. It's like, okay, you

592
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,800
Speaker 1: know there's bears in the avalanche shoots. There was a

593
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 1: few of them close to us that one. We're like,

594
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: it was going to be a big trek through a

595
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: lot of thick, nasty country to get to where we

596
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:21,840
Speaker 1: might possibly have a shooting vantage point. And I wasn't

597
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 1: able to download any maps for my on X, so

598
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:28,879
Speaker 1: I could, you know, figure out shooting areas because it

599
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: was like so last minute, like which place we were

600
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 1: going to go, we didn't really know until we got there, basically,

601
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: so we didn't we weren't able to kind of prepare

602
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: with like, okay, well if we get on this vantage

603
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 1: point on the map, you know, on on X, and

604
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: be like all right, we'll be able to shoot across

605
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: or glass across. We could just we were just kind

606
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: of hunting like we did back in the olden days, right,

607
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:51,760
Speaker 1: So we're like, well, we'll save that one kind of

608
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 1: like for a bond's eye, because that one's going to

609
00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: take a lot of effort to get there from a

610
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 1: maybe or maybe not even having a chance to get

611
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: on a bear. So we marked that one and we

612
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 1: kept on hunting around. We found some avalanche shoots closer

613
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 1: to us where we could glass into her. It'd be

614
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: a you know, six hundred yard five hundred yard shot.

615
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: And we've put some time in there. And on day

616
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: three we'd hiked up and through the sponge the spongy country.

617
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: It was it was kind of it was beautiful. Is

618
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,959
Speaker 1: this place is one of the most beautiful places you've

619
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,919
Speaker 1: ever been. We're sitting there glassing, we're watching I had to, like,

620
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: I had to like focus really hard on looking for

621
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: bears because I kept on gravitating to the ocean and

622
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 1: looking at the otters, the sea otters and seals and stuff.

623
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: We saw orcs swimming by.

624
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 2: That was cool.

625
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, man, I hope those things get

626
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 1: close and come up in this little bay we're in.

627
00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,320
Speaker 1: But it was kind of a shallow bay whenever the

628
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: especially when the tide would go out, so I don't

629
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: think they came up in there too much.

630
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 2: Maybe they did. We never seen him in there, but.

631
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,200
Speaker 1: Anyway, it's like, man, I was, I was enjoying watching

632
00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 1: the ocean life as much as any thing. But so anyhow,

633
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: we hike up and get up to this spot. It's like,

634
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: all right, we'll get up on this vantage point, Caleb,

635
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 1: the guide tells the camera guy, and I hear you,

636
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 1: guys hang out here for a minute. I'm gonna go

637
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: look over on the backside of this ridge and see

638
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 1: if there's anywhere I can glass over here too, and

639
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: I'll get back. So he turns around. We turn around,

640
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: all right, I see you, and he makes about twenty

641
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: yards away and I turn around and look, and there's

642
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: a bear right out in the open. Where did that

643
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: thing come from? We just literally looked there. It's like

644
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 1: we turned our back and he walked out. And I've

645
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: never seen this before, but he came out. So we

646
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: were like, hey, Caleb, get over here. And this bear

647
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: he comes out of the woods and he starts kind

648
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: of almost wallowing, you know, or wallering or wallowing however

649
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 1: you like to say it. But it's not even hot out.

650
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 2: It's overcast. It's pretty chilly. So I don't know why

651
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 2: he did this, but he was. He started rolling his

652
00:29:55,560 --> 00:30:01,160
Speaker 2: face in this marshy sponge sponge waterlow place.

653
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 1: You know, he started rolling his face around. Pretty soon

654
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: he's on his back, rolling around. He's rolling, but he

655
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: paid a lot of attention, like with rolling his face,

656
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 1: you know, back and forth. And I don't know if

657
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: he just got stung by a thousand bees, if he

658
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 1: got a b nest or something, or maybe he was

659
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 1: just trying to freshen up. But we put a spotter

660
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: on him and so we kind of kicked him back

661
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,959
Speaker 1: and forth. Yeah, he's a mature bear, you know, how

662
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: big izzy. You know, bears, you just really got to

663
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: study him. They're hard to judge. But he had a big,

664
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: old punkin head and his ears were way on the side,

665
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: they weren't on top. That's a kind of a tell

666
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: tale judging bears. You know, if they're up the ears

667
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: are positioned on top of the head and looked kind

668
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: of tall or long, that's a young bear. If they're

669
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: off to the side, you know, a long distance in

670
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,520
Speaker 1: between them and they look short, you know, that's a

671
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: telltale that's more of a mature bear. So we sat

672
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: there and watched him for a while and Caleb's like,

673
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 1: I think he's a five and a half foot.

674
00:30:58,040 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: Six foot type bear.

675
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 1: So we're looking and he's like, you can take him

676
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: if you want. But I wasn't sure, you know. I

677
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: was like, wow, are we going to find a seven

678
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: foot in here somewhere? I mean, you know there are

679
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: big bears, that's the area is known for really big

680
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: black bears. But this bear's no slouch, just pretty nice. So, man,

681
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 1: that thing is out in the open for a really

682
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 1: long time. And I kind of kick the can around

683
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: a little bit and I don't know if I'll shoot him,

684
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,080
Speaker 1: I don't know. And then I started he's kind of

685
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: wandering off. I'm like, I think I'm going to call

686
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: to him. I'm like, hey, look, would it be okay

687
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: if I call? He said, yeah, go ahead, knock yourself out.

688
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: So I start calling to this bear with a bear

689
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: cub in distress sound and stops in Deadney's tracks, and

690
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: he turns around and faces us and comes towards us

691
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 1: a little ways. I'm like, oh man, this is gonna work.

692
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: And at that moment in my mind, I'm like, I'm

693
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: gonna shoot this bear because I'm gonna call it in right.

694
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: But then he kind of got so then I get

695
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 1: on the gun and get tried to get ready and

696
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: I'm arranging stuff. This time he was probably three fifty

697
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty yards and getting all my scope

698
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: dialed and everything, getting a good solid rest. It wasn't

699
00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: a great place to try to shoot for him, but

700
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: I found a good solid rest.

701
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: And I kept calling, kept calling it.

702
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:17,959
Speaker 1: And then I remember your podcast with Fred Eichler and

703
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: he said, just keep calling, calling calls because bears lose

704
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: interest quickly. So I just kept calling, calling it. And

705
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: we were on a ridge that was fairly open. It

706
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:29,959
Speaker 1: wasn't a timber ridge. There was a lot of open stuff,

707
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 1: and I don't think that bear seeing any black black blobs.

708
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 2: Running around rolling around up there.

709
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: You know, there was no motion, you know that he

710
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: could see, and he's just like, I don't think so.

711
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: So then he turned around kind of will started watering

712
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: back off, you know, feeding here and there.

713
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 2: And then.

714
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,959
Speaker 1: By the time he got into the timber, I had

715
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 1: finally got a really good rock solid rest. I'm like, ah,

716
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: dang it, I don't think I'm gonna get this thing.

717
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: So we were watching him in this brush and you

718
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: could just see little bits and pieces of black, and

719
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 1: I thought, well, if I get a good clear shot,

720
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: i'm gonna I'm gonna take a shot. So he gets

721
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: He finally wanders around in there and kind of gets

722
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,840
Speaker 1: broadside and it's pretty open in the timber.

723
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: It looks good. I don't see any major obstructions. So

724
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 2: get on the gun. I'm on the gun. Squeeze squeeze, squeeze, squeeze.

725
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,480
Speaker 1: Gun goes off. Boom. I just know I just killed

726
00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: this thing right boom. CALLB says, you missed, And my

727
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: what it was a really good squeeze, Like how there's

728
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 1: no way, So of course, you know, I put another

729
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: another round in and look and through the scope and

730
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: he's gone like right at the shot, you know, as

731
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: soon as the bullet hit then he ran.

732
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 2: Caleb said, yeah, I seen the bullet impact. He's like,

733
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 2: he didn't hit but we better go look, So we

734
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 2: go over there. I'm like, man, stupid me.

735
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: I'm just mad at myself because we had all the

736
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 1: time in the world to shoot this bear in the

737
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: wide open at three hundred and fifty yards three hundred

738
00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: and fifty to four hundred. I shot at for eighty

739
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,200
Speaker 1: in the timber, but it looked open to me. Well

740
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,520
Speaker 1: we get over there, Oh yeah, there's a pretty good older.

741
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: Limb with a bullet hit it. With a bullet hit it.

742
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:24,719
Speaker 1: So that's what we're blaming on the myths. But I

743
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: blame myself more than anything for not getting on the

744
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: gun sooner, being a little more you know, decisive, and

745
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 1: maybe making my having my mind made up a little

746
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: better of really what I wanted to come home with.

747
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: He was a beautiful bear, great bear. I would have

748
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: been happy with him. I should have just made that

749
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: decision a little earlier. And maybe I should have had

750
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: that pre that decision made before we ever gotten the

751
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: situation where I had to you know, you know, think

752
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,879
Speaker 1: about it, like I should have just been like, yep,

753
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: if it's this, I'm going to shoot it. But I

754
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 1: didn't do that, and I think, you know, I can

755
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: only blame myself because I didn't get that bear. I'd

756
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: blame you too, I know you would, Yeah, because that's

757
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 1: what friends are for, right, they tear you down.

758
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 3: I'm here to let you know. I'd blame you. That's

759
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 3: a bummer. You a way to Alaska.

760
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 4: You know, not that anything Alaska is necessarily a slam dunk,

761
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 4: but you know an area like that that typically with

762
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 4: snowlines in, you know, in the right place, you probably

763
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,239
Speaker 4: got high densities, and then just for it to come down,

764
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 4: that's a bummer. And then I think you had what

765
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 4: three or four days left where you just sat under

766
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:26,919
Speaker 4: a tarp and tried to see the rain for four

767
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 4: days straight.

768
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

769
00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: So up until that point, right up until I pulled

770
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: the trigger, the weather been pretty good. I mean we'd

771
00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 1: had a little bit of rain, but nothing to really

772
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,800
Speaker 1: be poopoo about. But right after I pulled the trigger

773
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,919
Speaker 1: and we go over there, it started raining and wind.

774
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: It started blowing pretty.

775
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 2: Good in it.

776
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 1: Typical Alaska fashion, you know, it rained off and on

777
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 1: a lot. For the next duration of the hunt, we

778
00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: saw probably five bears total in the area. I just

779
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: think I think there's a lot of bears there. They're

780
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:05,520
Speaker 1: just not right in that very spot. But it's funny,

781
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: you know, we that bear there, you know, we turn

782
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: our back and a bear walks out.

783
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 2: If we had kept walking up the help, we had

784
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 2: never seen that thing.

785
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

786
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 2: In another instance, same thing.

787
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: We were walking to one of our perches that we'd

788
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 1: like to set sit down, and Caleb's like, I'm gonna

789
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: walk back to camp and get our freeze dried food,

790
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,760
Speaker 1: you know, our peak freeze dried food and my cooker.

791
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,760
Speaker 1: Let's just stay here for the day. So he turned

792
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: We'd only been there ten minutes. He turns around, walks back,

793
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 1: comes round back. There's a bear right here, like literally

794
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 1: the same type of thing. It's like, we turned around,

795
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: we're facing a different direction. If we would to walk

796
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 1: twenty yards back the other way, we'd have seen this

797
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: bear walking through the opening. And I we got over

798
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,879
Speaker 1: there and seen him and it was a really small bear.

799
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 4: But yeah, we had a lot of that too, where

800
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 4: just slight angle changes, like Tyson couldn't see the same

801
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 4: opening that I could see and I couldn't see the

802
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 4: same ones he could, And if you just weren't in

803
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 4: the right spot at the right time, or if you

804
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 4: weren't Like this is what drives me nuts because I'm

805
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 4: a I'm a math guy right in a statics as

806
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 4: you know, statistics stattician.

807
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a stattician while I'm out there.

808
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 4: But what frustrates me is when you finally do spot

809
00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,800
Speaker 4: a bear and you realize that you had like fifteen

810
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 4: seconds of seeing it before it was gone and would

811
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 4: have never been seen again. You're like, I can't even

812
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 4: as I got my eye glued to a spotting scope

813
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:34,520
Speaker 4: or into my binoculars, Like, there's lots of fifteen seconds

814
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 4: times where I'm not looking at the best spots right right,

815
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 4: And you're like, so what It starts to drive me

816
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 4: nuts and frustrate me, Like are there bears walking through

817
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 4: the whole time and we're just not picking them up?

818
00:37:45,360 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I wondered that too. That was good because

819
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 2: we had three eyes on stuff, you know, camera guy

820
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 2: Daniel he was he was scanning stuff, and Klew was scanning.

821
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 2: I was scanning.

822
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 1: And then but you know, you know, if you're looking

823
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:04,399
Speaker 1: in the wrong opening at the wrong time.

824
00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 2: You're going to miss them. You're just gonna miss them,

825
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: I thing. But yeah, there's the rain rolled in.

826
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 1: So we would we'd hunt till eleven thirty, you know,

827
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 1: get back to camp, eat something real quick, go to

828
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: bed at midnight, and sleep in because bears aren't super

829
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:25,319
Speaker 1: active in the morning even there, so we'd sleep in

830
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: and then we'd we'd have get up, have breakfast, sit

831
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 1: around bs, shoot the breeze for a while, have something,

832
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: have a top Brahmin or something, and then head out

833
00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: for you know, tell tell us bedtime.

834
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: You know.

835
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 1: We'd spend the rest of the afternoon, evening, night, you know,

836
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 1: out and you know, up there you can hunt twenty

837
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 1: four hours a day if you want. You just can't

838
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: use artificial light, which is crazy to me, but it

839
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: wasn't a slam dunk. By hunting late like that, you know,

840
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: either they're moving or they're not. Usually a bunch of

841
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 1: rain would move in and we just sit there under

842
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: a tarp. Pro tip if you're hunting Alaska, carry an

843
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: ultra light tarp with you at all times. That way,

844
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: when it starts raining, you just pop that baby up

845
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,240
Speaker 1: and get under it and that way you can stick

846
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: stick around.

847
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,160
Speaker 2: But man, we we.

848
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 1: Logged some serious hours glassing and we hiked around a bit,

849
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: you know. We we got to the points like, all right,

850
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna do that Hail Mary hunt to that bear

851
00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: and that and that shoot the avalanche shoot we saw,

852
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: you know, a long ways away. So we hiked and

853
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: it reminds me of pictures videos I've seen of like

854
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: the Oregon coast or western Washington coast, you know, type

855
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 1: of rainforest similar to some of the North Idaho stuff,

856
00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:44,279
Speaker 1: except there was tons of Devil's club and uh and

857
00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: raspberry BlackBerry brush I don't know what it was, and

858
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: it see no berries, but it was just poky, a

859
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,239
Speaker 1: lot of pokey crap, you know, and we just you know,

860
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: I decided to wear waiters that day because my waiting

861
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 1: pants because everything had been.

862
00:39:58,760 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 2: So fricking wet.

863
00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:05,360
Speaker 1: So we trudged through the rainforest and then stupid waiters,

864
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 1: I mean they are awesome though they kept me dry

865
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: the whole time.

866
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 2: Shout out to the waiter people.

867
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,960
Speaker 1: But man, we slogged through that stuff and that forest

868
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: and wind falls and up and down swamps and we

869
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: got way over there and then we just found out

870
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: that there was just no way to ever look into

871
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: that avalanche shoot close up, and in fact, if you

872
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 1: were even standing in it. You know, the brush is

873
00:40:32,400 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: super tall, you know, someplaces ten feet tall. Some little

874
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: openings are open enough where you could see, but there

875
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 1: was no if you were standing on one side of

876
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 1: it and the bear was on the other, there was

877
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 1: no way you.

878
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: Ever see it.

879
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: So we turned around. That little recon mission kind of failed,

880
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: but it was a good hike. You know, we've seen

881
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: some pretty country. Was what was weird though. I thought

882
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 1: I would see lots of little wildlife, wild creatures living,

883
00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: you know, But man, we saw one coyote and bears

884
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 1: and that's that's all we saw in the land. A

885
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,960
Speaker 1: lot of seagulls flying around. And let me tell you what,

886
00:41:08,360 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: if you don't like the sound of squirrels chirping, wait

887
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: till you hear lots of seagulls squawking constantly.

888
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 2: Man, those things are obnoxious.

889
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: I almost like, I asked Caleb several times, can I

890
00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: do I get a seagull tag? He said, no, you

891
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:27,280
Speaker 1: can't shoot seagulls. But then things were so terribly obnoxious.

892
00:41:27,320 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: But then, since we wanted to kind of branch out

893
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,920
Speaker 1: becoming The outfitter came and dropped off a boat for us,

894
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: a little I want to call those a little zodiac,

895
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,800
Speaker 1: if you will. And we got on that thing and

896
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 1: talk about feeling sketchy being out in the ocean on

897
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: a little rubber rafts with a motor on the back,

898
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: with a I think it was like a fifteen horse motor.

899
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: It was a little bit unnerving for somebody's never done that,

900
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: you know. Didn't like it, no, And it was it

901
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 2: rains so much.

902
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,359
Speaker 1: We'd have to constantly bail the bail the boat out

903
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 1: every time you'd stop and go hunting for a while,

904
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 1: and we'd go hunt for a few hours. We'd come

905
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: back that boat would be full of water, so then

906
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: we'd have.

907
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 2: To drain it and all that.

908
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: And this one time we went up went up this

909
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 1: cool river drainage and we get way up in there

910
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: and we hunted for a long time. And this was

911
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: like the second to the last day, and it was like,

912
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 1: you know, we're in we're in go time now. It's

913
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: like we're gonna hunt all day. Rain, shine don't matter.

914
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 1: So we were out in the in the rain all

915
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 1: freaking day and got soaked. But when we get back

916
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: to the boat at eleven o'clock at night, then it's

917
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 1: plump full of water. So we have to we have

918
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: to drag it uphill to get it to where you

919
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: can drain into the you know, drain the water out.

920
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: So the bank is super super steep, so we drained uphill,

921
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: drain it, put the plug back in, and then get in.

922
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,759
Speaker 1: It's like all right, everybody load up and we load up.

923
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 1: Caleb starts ranking on the motor won't start.

924
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:02,959
Speaker 2: We flooded it.

925
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: To the point where like, I don't know if it's

926
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,239
Speaker 1: flooded or maybe something else is going on here. So

927
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: we're calling the outfitter and he's like, well, can I

928
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 1: land my plane somewhere close by? And we're like no,

929
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: cause he's not He don't have a he don't have

930
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,359
Speaker 1: a pontoon plane or whatever he's got the other kind

931
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: of thing. There's nowhere to land and he maybe hoofing it.

932
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: We'll give it some time here. I'm like, I bet

933
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: it's just flooded. So we gave it some time and

934
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: finally it started and we were able to go back.

935
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: But yeah, it was cool.

936
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 1: There was there was glaciers out there in the ocean.

937
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,480
Speaker 1: We could see you know, we're not too far from

938
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 1: a giant glacier, you know that, but there are not glaciers.

939
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 1: But there was icebergs out in the ocean, you know,

940
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: floating around. And there was this little point during low tide

941
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: that the channel got pretty narrow and man, there were

942
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: fricking sea otters everywhere. I never you know, I'd like,

943
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,760
Speaker 1: how many sea otters are there? Oh, there's the pretty

944
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: common man. There was a couple of hundred them. It

945
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,839
Speaker 1: looked like just black dots everywhere out there, and that's

946
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: where the channel kind of got narrowing.

947
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 2: Then things are weird. They're they're not that scared.

948
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:10,320
Speaker 1: You can just run right up to them, and you know,

949
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: they're they're kind of a cool little animal.

950
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 2: They're protected.

951
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 1: You know, I think only people that can can shoot them,

952
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 1: or natives, but these little guys, they just they they

953
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: lay lay on their back most of the time and

954
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 1: just kind of do the backstroke and paddle around like

955
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 1: like they're just lounging around eat.

956
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 4: Little shellfish off their belly like you see on the

957
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 4: at the zoo.

958
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 5: Yeah.

959
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, and this one is like, what the heck's going on?

960
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: We got up close and I got the by noose

961
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,479
Speaker 1: on it, and I was like, it's some weird there's

962
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 1: two of them.

963
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 2: Well, I had his baby on it.

964
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: Well, the baby's head was almost as big as the

965
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: mama's head, but it just it's whiskers weren't as whiskery.

966
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 1: It's just kind of a real fuzzy head, but its

967
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: body completely covered. The mom's body is like these things

968
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: float around so good, but they're.

969
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 4: Pretty fun to watch. Yeah, that sounds it sounds awesome. Yeah,

970
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 4: definitely an experience bummer. On the the shop, we got

971
00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 4: to see a lot of cool stuff and got the

972
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 4: spring bear and a new New state.

973
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 3: They had never been to, so that's that's always fun.

974
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and we man the view from camp was amazing.

975
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: You know, we could look across this big long bay,

976
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: you know, look at the mountain range across you could

977
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,600
Speaker 1: see you could see where the glaciers have melted in

978
00:45:19,640 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: the last thirty years where you know. Caleb was like, yeah,

979
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: you know, thirty years ago that was all glacier over there,

980
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 1: it's all gone. You could see how the vegetation had

981
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:31,799
Speaker 1: there's no trees, but it was all brushed. Now you

982
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: could see that line where it had melted, and man,

983
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: it was the most beautiful, one of the most well,

984
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: it was the most beautiful camps.

985
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 2: I'd ever I've ever had.

986
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: And then then we get back to civilizations, like, well,

987
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: the hunt's over. When we get back to Valdez and

988
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: we're like, all right, it's time to go home.

989
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:50,760
Speaker 2: Cool.

990
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 1: Well, the plane for a anchorage is like, we can't come.

991
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: We got we have to delay.

992
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 2: There's too much.

993
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 1: Fog to land, and Caldi's and then okay, we're gonna come.

994
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: So they fly and they get over there, they turn around,

995
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: they can't land, there's too much fog. So the next day,

996
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: too much fog. Same thing. It's like on day three,

997
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:17,240
Speaker 1: we're like, we got to get home. So the buddy

998
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: that had the boat that took us out, he was

999
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 1: a buddy of the outfitter. So the outfitter said, hey,

1000
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: you know anybody that's heading the anchorage driving the anchorage

1001
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah, I am. Actually he's like, hey,

1002
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: can we hitch or ride? These guys hitch your ride

1003
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,279
Speaker 1: with you. So we hitched a ride. Is a five

1004
00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 1: hour drive to anchorage, which turned out to be I

1005
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:38,840
Speaker 1: don't know, I think it was almost better than the

1006
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 1: plane ride, because man, we got to see a lot

1007
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 1: of the interior.

1008
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 2: You know, just beautiful, beautiful, cry beautiful.

1009
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 1: Through the Copper Copper River area, which is you know,

1010
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 1: world renown for moose hunting, and it looks it's just

1011
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 1: you know, picturesque moose country.

1012
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 3: I thought you were going to say it's world renowned

1013
00:46:57,000 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 3: for its tasty salmon. Salmon.

1014
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: Oh maybe so and back. You know, Jason wanted to

1015
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: alask Was that last year?

1016
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 3: Last year? Yeah? Four?

1017
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: And you said the the state bird was the mosquito.

1018
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, miss it is.

1019
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 2: I even't bought mosquito nets. I bought a mosquito net

1020
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,560
Speaker 2: for my head. I bought a mosquito net for my body,

1021
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 2: like a jacket for your body.

1022
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 3: I want to see you. I want to see you

1023
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:24,759
Speaker 3: in a mosquito net.

1024
00:47:25,800 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 2: That's all that was wearing, is a mosquito net. Yes, anyway, anyway.

1025
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 3: I heard.

1026
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: I only used it a couple of times, and it

1027
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 1: wasn't for mosquitoes, as these other little bugs that fly

1028
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: around and get in your face, try to fly in

1029
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 1: your nose and your eyes, but mosquito, like, I had

1030
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: way more mosquitos here in Idaho than I've had up there.

1031
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 1: I think it was just timing was off, you know,

1032
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,359
Speaker 1: which was good because I I'm more scarce Mosquitos and

1033
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 1: the Grizzlies bearers.

1034
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 4: Honestly, Yeah, we got I was riding, you know, we'd

1035
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 4: be riding the fouriller and uh, you'd have the ding

1036
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,800
Speaker 4: just after we killed the sheep. We hung around and

1037
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:04,400
Speaker 4: things will be able to fly and keep up with

1038
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,919
Speaker 4: you and still somehow get inside your you know, face

1039
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 4: mask or inside your hood or whatever you had on them.

1040
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 2: This is terrible, man, and I'm glad I didn't have

1041
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 2: it that bad.

1042
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,560
Speaker 4: But yeah, yeah, here's a here's a little plug, a

1043
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 4: little shout out that hunt is going to launch this Sunday,

1044
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 4: that is twenty second, So you're gonna be listening to

1045
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 4: this on the nineteenth. In three days, you can go

1046
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 4: check out that hunt on Krispy's Youth Chrispi's YouTube channel.

1047
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 2: Oh oh your sheep hunt?

1048
00:48:27,280 --> 00:48:29,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, the one we're talking about. Yeah, just

1049
00:48:29,160 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 3: a little shameless plug there.

1050
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, Sunday, the twenty second. I don't know what time

1051
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: did he ever say?

1052
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 3: Just probably in the evening, I'm guessing.

1053
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, if you go in the evening, it'll be

1054
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 4: there whether it's launched early, it'll be there by Sunday evening,

1055
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:42,440
Speaker 4: So that's.

1056
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 2: A Saunday evening.

1057
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1058
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, And just to let you know, if you want

1059
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,479
Speaker 1: to win some cool crap, I think there's like thirty

1060
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 1: nine hundred. I think there's over four thousand dollars in

1061
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: cool gear. They're giving away sign up to win.

1062
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 3: You know.

1063
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 2: We got loop pulled Optics, we got I think there's

1064
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 2: a there's a there's a pack in there, there's there's

1065
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,720
Speaker 2: some calls. I think we're gonna do a call package,

1066
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 2: carbon Tube.

1067
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have some first like gear. We're gonna have

1068
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: f HF Bino Harness, some Crispy boots.

1069
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be.

1070
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 3: A knife companies.

1071
00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 4: We kind of did the giveaway what I used on

1072
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 4: that sheep, what I had on, what I used, what

1073
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 4: I wore, Yeah, sort of a package.

1074
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that'll be that'll be really cool. Yeah, and

1075
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 2: I think and we both have seen the film, the

1076
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:36,319
Speaker 2: final product. Our buddy Dusty Roup did the edit on it.

1077
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:39,479
Speaker 1: David Frame filmed it, Dusty edited it, and it turned

1078
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: out really good.

1079
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, really good.

1080
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 2: Made me look like a like a cool guy.

1081
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, a guy that really knew what he was doing.

1082
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:50,240
Speaker 4: Sheep, yeah, sheep expert. Well we we made it fifty

1083
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:51,840
Speaker 4: minutes into this thing. I think we might need to

1084
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:53,880
Speaker 4: save the bowls and bs for later. This might just

1085
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 4: be a Barry cap.

1086
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, we might have to. Yeah, we have some pretty

1087
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: fun stuff planned for the all. I can't wait. And yeah,

1088
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: we should probably save that for another one. That way

1089
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 1: we can, we can, we can talk about death and yeah,

1090
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: a little bit more.

1091
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, well yeah, no, it's I think draws are all

1092
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 4: done now besides Montana Antelope, which uh.

1093
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 2: I thought they just came out.

1094
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 3: No, so the nine hundred Dash twenty comes out in

1095
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:22,440
Speaker 3: mid June.

1096
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:26,240
Speaker 4: The actual like special units don't come out until early July.

1097
00:50:26,560 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 3: Gotcha, guys, all I thought.

1098
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 4: They came out to Some guys were posting like I

1099
00:50:29,920 --> 00:50:31,799
Speaker 4: do my Antelope tag? Will I go and jump on?

1100
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 4: I'm like Montana forgot me, Like, hey, you guys forgot

1101
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:36,399
Speaker 4: to put my name in the.

1102
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 3: Draw, you know.

1103
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 4: And then I went to some reading just the nine

1104
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 4: hundred Dash twenty because it must be a really early start.

1105
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 3: That's right.

1106
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,560
Speaker 2: I remember that now because I remember.

1107
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,839
Speaker 1: The last time I applied, and it was like it

1108
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: was like almost antelope season when you find out like

1109
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:51,880
Speaker 1: Montana likes to hold that money.

1110
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,239
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I'm gonna sends you threw me under the

1111
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 4: bus a little bit. I'm gonna throw a Dirk under

1112
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 4: the bus a little bit. So Dirk's and Idaho resident.

1113
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 4: He has a lot of antelope points, and so me

1114
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 4: and Dirk build this like elaborate content plan right like

1115
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 4: where we're gonna try to get tags, like where we

1116
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:09,720
Speaker 4: have good odds so we can start to plan this. So, Dirk,

1117
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 4: what are your chances to draw on your Montana antelope

1118
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 4: tag with your six points?

1119
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 3: This year?

1120
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 2: They're having a leftover drawing.

1121
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,319
Speaker 4: So you're gonna be in the leftover drawing, not the

1122
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,440
Speaker 4: And then so I know they they dropped a big

1123
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 4: early like Idaho for the first time, and ever decides

1124
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 4: they're gonna draw like in June and not in July

1125
00:51:28,760 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 4: and give you some time. So I Idaho surprisingly comes up,

1126
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 4: like however to get in? So I got in snuck

1127
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:37,320
Speaker 4: in like real early, like dang it, not selected, not selected.

1128
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,760
Speaker 4: I drew for the you know, shot for the stars.

1129
00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,120
Speaker 4: So I catch up with Dirk later like what do

1130
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 4: you draw?

1131
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,560
Speaker 3: I forgot to put in. That's his own state. That's

1132
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,000
Speaker 3: just like that's his back door.

1133
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: I know, I know, And like the last day was.

1134
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 1: Whenever I'm traveling home from Alaska, I'm like, oh, yeah,

1135
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: I'll apply in Portland. When on my layover, I get

1136
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:01,359
Speaker 1: to Portland and oh, my connecting flight is just in

1137
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: time for me to run over to the next gate.

1138
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: But this is like, this is all an excuse because

1139
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: that was the last day. I should have plied on

1140
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 1: the first day.

1141
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 4: But so so long story short, I've now built Dirk

1142
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 4: a calendar with all the reminders put in, and he'll

1143
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 4: never miss another date.

1144
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 3: I got blamed for all kinds of stuff.

1145
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 2: Hey, I got in for Colorado this year. You know

1146
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 2: that's last year. Last year he didn't hold my hand

1147
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 2: and tell me to play.

1148
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:28,919
Speaker 6: And I I do feel a little bit guilty because

1149
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:30,839
Speaker 6: of what I usually do is I'll tell Dirk like

1150
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 6: two weeks until such and such do and I know

1151
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 6: he's gonna forget, and so I should take responsibility and

1152
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 6: give him another reminder like three days away, versus like

1153
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,760
Speaker 6: this year, I forgot to give that, like second reminder

1154
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 6: did you put in for Arizona?

1155
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 3: Deer?

1156
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 2: I don't think I have any points oh no, no,

1157
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 2: Arizona Deer point just out.

1158
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was the last one.

1159
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,520
Speaker 4: That just I'm like, I forgot to remind you that too,

1160
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 4: because I think you were in bear hunting, which wouldn't

1161
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 4: be no good.

1162
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think I've ever applied for

1163
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: Arizona Deer.

1164
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I had to.

1165
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 4: I have to give you a little bit of a

1166
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 4: hard time on your application strategy this year. It's real,

1167
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 4: it's real tough to draw if you don't put in dirt.

1168
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: Well, hey, listen, I don't know, I know, like in

1169
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 1: your world of work. I know, as a general manager,

1170
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:19,719
Speaker 1: I know you're probably just sitting around drinking lattes and

1171
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 1: you know, you know, smoking cigars and having you know,

1172
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,080
Speaker 1: at four thirty every day you have a bourbon, you know.

1173
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: For for us in the marketing department, we've been busy,

1174
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 1: all right.

1175
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 2: You know.

1176
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:32,840
Speaker 1: I've been building, you know, filling in spreadsheets, been building

1177
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 1: building all this this marketing plan out. I've been making assets.

1178
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: I've been editing my butt off. I've been you know,

1179
00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 1: that's good hunting. I've been, I mean.

1180
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 4: Just doing it all basically carrying the carrying, the carrying,

1181
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 4: the whole team I.

1182
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 2: Don't even sleep at night. I mean, I've been working

1183
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 2: so much.

1184
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 4: So no, no, no, you have been crushing on the

1185
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 4: marketing side. We're we're having a heck of a year

1186
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 4: and new products are doing good, so appreciate that. But

1187
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 4: I think I think we save all of our our

1188
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,000
Speaker 4: upcoming hunts and this will give me some time to

1189
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 4: like dig up some dirt on you and cacheade over

1190
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 4: whatever you got going on, and how it's a rig

1191
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,479
Speaker 4: season and if you do better than me, it's because

1192
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 4: of the hunts you got coming up.

1193
00:54:11,719 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 1: And yeah, I hope, so I hope we can do that,

1194
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 1: maybe maybe be really good. I mean, when we go

1195
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:21,279
Speaker 1: moose hunting, you're gonna get to shoot first, as long

1196
00:54:21,280 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: as it's not big.

1197
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 4: So all right, well, no, thank you for for jumping

1198
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 4: on here doing the bear hunt recap.

1199
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 3: Thanks for running this show.

1200
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 4: So now you're responsible for the description and all the

1201
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,879
Speaker 4: stuff that gets this thing to air.

1202
00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're welcome. Yeah, and I probably have to

1203
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 2: wrap it up to hunts.

1204
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,320
Speaker 4: I got a bourbon, I got a bourbon. Call my

1205
00:54:45,440 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 4: name here, so I gotta go get.

1206
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,400
Speaker 2: The cigars and all the other you know, fat cat stuff.

1207
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,439
Speaker 2: All you executives have yeah.

1208
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, So we'll take everybody thanks for listening to cutting

1209
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 4: the distance, and until next time, we'll see it then